Quick Shifter vs. Clutchless upshifts

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • Which is quicker/smoother?
    Note: This is my opinion and the way I do it.

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  • @OrcaGT
    @OrcaGT 10 років тому +165

    Not many places left to hide now RJ... lol :P

  • @matan290
    @matan290 9 років тому +321

    that guy actually sounded and looked like james may from top gear

    • @Ro_Wa
      @Ro_Wa 9 років тому +4

      long white hair ?

    • @matan290
      @matan290 9 років тому +10

      yea :D im telling you he looks just like him and sounds just like him

    • @tye5819
      @tye5819 9 років тому +1

      MATAN290 omg i was just about to comment that but saw someone else (you) comment it first (thinking the same thing) omg he really does indeed haha and his clothing.

    • @dfw_motorrad1329
      @dfw_motorrad1329 9 років тому +4

      MATAN290 I wonder if May actually does watch RJ's videos...
      Now that would be cool.

    • @aaronlim9381
      @aaronlim9381 9 років тому +8

      Nah. He sound like Zoro

  • @trilorden
    @trilorden 10 років тому +45

    lol, Why the fuck did you stop behind me?! Oh, it's a fan, okay then. xD

  • @ChompsLewis
    @ChompsLewis 7 років тому +44

    i felt so bad at the end. you were like what does this guy want? but then you stopped to give him your time and i felt a bit better for him haha.

  • @MrGentileg
    @MrGentileg 10 років тому

    You can tell a lot about someone who takes their glove off to shake a fans hand. Nice touch.
    Thanks for the video - it will help a noob like me enjoy the ride even more.

  • @ahmadyassin4958
    @ahmadyassin4958 8 років тому +34

    i was doing it for a while but i stopped because of a stupid told me that it could damage my bike gearbox but now after this video am gonna do it without worries ....... thanks a lot RJ

    • @immanuellasker4273
      @immanuellasker4273 8 років тому +4

      Actually in the long distance it can reduce gear precision...your friend was not so stupid

    • @SCHIJTERBAAS
      @SCHIJTERBAAS 7 років тому +1

      is just logic if using the clutch will always be the best option. The other may not be to harm full either or just a little tiny harmfully.

    • @SpookySnek9
      @SpookySnek9 7 років тому +3

      It does NOT reduce "gear precision" and it does NOT wear it down more than using your clutch. If anything, you clutch gets worn down faster from all the use if you use the clutch. The gearbox has a type of "clutch gear" of it's own that engages when there's torque. So when you don't pull the throttle or enginebrake, it "disengages" allowing you to shift without hurting any gears.

    • @immanuellasker4273
      @immanuellasker4273 7 років тому +2

      nope. If the synchronism of the shift is not perfect you can have as a result a slight resistance that forces the selector forks and/or, when the timing of the shift is really wrong, a severe shock of the gear that finally gets in.
      It varies from model to model but, in the end, using the clutch is safer.
      I use to change without clutch in certain circumstances like when I have one hand busy (like when I'm carrying something delicate on the tank), when I perform rocket style acceleration or when the clutch cable breaks (sometimes it occurs)...but I wouldn't recommend this practice as the best practice for bikers who really care for their bikes.

    • @SpookySnek9
      @SpookySnek9 7 років тому +3

      It really easy to time it tough and if you've done it a few times, the risk of doing it wrong is incredibly small. The synchronism of the shift will always be perfect as long as it takes less than about 0.6 seconds to do after releaseing the throttel, as long as you gearclutch isn't broken (the spring can break). It's just as safe to upshift without clutch as it is with a clutch unless you have no idea at all what you're doing. The gearclutch is there for that very purpose. The only time a "severe shock" to the gear will happen is if you downshift without clutch, or if you shift while holding the throttel, as the clutchgear will always be disingaged unless theres torque, unless it's broken.

  • @MrRitc
    @MrRitc 8 років тому +1

    Tried this on my cbr250 this morning! It works greatly on high revs, it doesn't on low revs. Great shifts anyway! THANKS RJ, awesome tips.

  • @kajko168
    @kajko168 10 років тому +8

    Coolest outake to date. Keep it up RJ... and well done you man from Cornwall!

  • @Drummusic91
    @Drummusic91 9 років тому

    I learned it without even noticing. Don't know how, don't know why. At some point I started to upshift exactly like you do. It's perfect, smooth and quick!

  • @Lastaii
    @Lastaii 10 років тому +7

    Nice video. The thing I like about quickshifters is you can change with the throttle wide open. Then again, clutchless works on pretty much everything :o)

  • @DucatiDiaries
    @DucatiDiaries 8 років тому +23

    OMG that was the most awesome shifting I've ever seen. Can't believe I never tried this. I'm going to try on a Ducati Diavel today. I'll hopefully not die. LOL. Sub'd!

  • @MrSparkyAprilia
    @MrSparkyAprilia 10 років тому +22

    Quick shifters come into there own when you have the throttle pinned wide open at the rev limiter. That's what they were designed for. But I agree clutch less shifting lower down the rev range is probably just as quick if not quicker that a qs.

    • @phantom_Biker
      @phantom_Biker 10 років тому

      also using a QS at low rev's isnt good for the gearbox and clutch.
      I know a lot of racers that wont even use them from 1-2 saying its also
      too harsh on the box.

    • @AdamKyleAnderson
      @AdamKyleAnderson 10 років тому +6

      Tom Hill Benn clutchless shifting on all manner of bikes over the past 35 years, right from first and never had a problem

    • @phantom_Biker
      @phantom_Biker 10 років тому

      I clutchless shift from 1-2 no problem.the guys that I know that race said you dont use a QS from 1-2 as the kill time is longer and this is harsh on the box.I know that hm also have a failsafe that the QS will not work below a certain rev as they are designed for high rev shifting only.

    • @FailsAndFightsFNF
      @FailsAndFightsFNF 10 років тому +1

      Tom Hill I've never once had any issues with a gearbox shifting from first to second clutchless, nor have I had any issues slipping into neutral doing that. To one up that, you are basing this on opinion whereas I have taken apart all of my bikes, even motocross bikes, and been inside the transmission and gearbox. It is simple to split the case and go through it when I am doing a rebuild, I do bottom and top end rebuilds often on all of my bikes and at the same time I set all the valves true and go through the transmission and replace any worn or bad cogs. I have never found a bad cog between first and second, and not only that they are constant mesh transmissions and there are no bad internal cogs inside of the actual bar that the main gears rest upon.
      I do not often clutchless shift from first to second though, because I get a bit of an oomph when doing it, the distance between first and second gear on all of my bikes are so wide that it's not worth the time saved to clutchless shift there.

    • @phantom_Biker
      @phantom_Biker 10 років тому

      I have seen damage from quick shifting first to second.its the second to sixth mesh and selector fork that gets it.replaced a good few in my time.

  • @HamSpamJamLamb
    @HamSpamJamLamb 9 років тому +6

    I've recently started doing clutchless upshifts and I have to agree RJ, it makes riding much more enjoyable :)

    • @HamSpamJamLamb
      @HamSpamJamLamb 9 років тому

      Yeah 1st to 2nd is gonna be jerky on a 125 so I rarely do it haha

    • @Marksman2oo7
      @Marksman2oo7 8 років тому

      +HamSpamJamLamb i'll have to give it a try then. This makes me want to go out and try it now, but it's 1:30 am

    • @HamSpamJamLamb
      @HamSpamJamLamb 8 років тому +1

      +Marksman2oo7 lol do it!

  • @jeroenvanbroekhoven7325
    @jeroenvanbroekhoven7325 6 років тому

    I tried it today and it WORKS!! So smooth, only have to get the 1st to 2nd gear shift right, which is a bit shocky. From 2nd to 6th is effortless. Thanks for the tips and better riding experience, RJ!

  • @mtnerb
    @mtnerb 9 років тому

    Hello RJ!
    I just tried to clutch-less upshifts on my CBR250R after watching your video and it worked perfectly. As you said, clutch-less upshift is quicker, smoother and faster. After that, I will practice and practice about it.
    Many thanks for the priceless tips. It is really helpful for a newbie like me.
    Cheers

  • @the_black_rose3336
    @the_black_rose3336 8 років тому

    God I am so old.... My excuse is haven't ridden a Bike in years (last Bike CBR1000F). You see you are a good guy to so many people.

  • @resistthesystem6145
    @resistthesystem6145 7 років тому

    Out of all the moto related videos I watch daily, you Sir are the best!

  • @jboy1919
    @jboy1919 10 років тому

    i tried the clutchless upshift technique on my suzuki gsx400 f from 1982 just a few hours ago, worked like a charm :D, man i drove threw half of europa a few years ago and never knew this, well i proves you got to learn from other bikers, thanks mate!

  • @bryang4323
    @bryang4323 8 років тому

    This is really great info! I always thought clutch less upshifts would cause harm. Obviously if not done right but did not realize you could go through the gears that quick. Nice man!

  • @abobobilly
    @abobobilly 7 років тому

    I am loving the way RJ explains things.

  • @SuricatB
    @SuricatB 10 років тому

    Even though I'm still not really sure about the safety (for the gearbox) of this way of shifting, I have to admit you DO achieve doing it reaaaally fast and smoothly. And since you wrote in the description it is YOUR way of doing it and YOUR opinion, I really feel like giving a thumb up to this informative video. Thank you RJ :)

  • @scottyd2262
    @scottyd2262 2 роки тому

    I just bought a quick shifter today for my 22 Husqvarna FE501 Supermoto. Can't wait to fit it. Great for flat out shifting. When l raced MX on 2 strokes l just held it wide open and shifted without a clutch. Riding on dirt is way more forgiving on gearboxes though.

  • @TheSparky1942
    @TheSparky1942 10 років тому

    I don't often use clutch ;)
    And i like the way that you are happy to talk to subscribers and shit like that. Good man, keep it up :)

  • @usmcp
    @usmcp 10 років тому +100

    Was that James May at the end there?

    • @raginraven31
      @raginraven31 10 років тому +3

      I thought so too until I heard the voice lol

    • @vattumies
      @vattumies 7 років тому +1

      late reply but he sounds little bit like May.

    • @gummykangaroo
      @gummykangaroo 4 роки тому

      He has long hair

  • @D0lf10
    @D0lf10 10 років тому

    Good to see you're talking in your videos now!

  • @CaptainCrankyMotovlogger
    @CaptainCrankyMotovlogger 10 років тому

    Great to get your angle on the clutchless shift and quickshifter thing RJ.
    What are the odds indeed!!?? Nice respectful subscriber there ;)

  • @InsideoverBlogspotPt599
    @InsideoverBlogspotPt599 10 років тому

    Face it RJ, you're a star ;)
    No pressure to the shifter before shifting... check!

  • @CCJG028
    @CCJG028 10 років тому

    I love to shift without making use of the clutch! But always thought it might cause damage, thanks for clearing that up

  • @Weeem
    @Weeem 10 років тому +21

    Next ... clutchless downshifting ;)

    • @bal4av
      @bal4av 5 років тому +1

      When riding slow it's not that hard cause there's not much to do about rev matching. Going hard I still can't figure it out... Last bike I tried was a Suzuki GN250 and be amazed, it's smoother clutchless then using the clutch.

    • @rockyclark1782
      @rockyclark1782 4 роки тому

      You can clutchless down shift, is abit rough though I used to do it on a 125cc because you can't do much wrong on a 125 lol and I didn't care for abusing it

  • @cabiker91
    @cabiker91 10 років тому

    Great video, RJ! I took the time to learn clutchless shifting and now I love doing it. Makes it more smooth and fast on the upshift that using the clutch. Downshifts aren't too bad either as long as I'm in the higher RPMs.

  • @mariegoldstein6687
    @mariegoldstein6687 7 років тому +15

    Clutchless shifting only when you accelerate!!! When you drive at 30 mph and you think the revs are to high and you want to shift and drive after the shifting with 30 mph you have to use the clutch otherwise you fuck up the gearbox and the clutch. If anyone thinks I am wrong should he think how clutchless shifting works: When you accelerate is "pressure" on the gears when you now take the gas away is no pressure in the gears and you can change the gears thats why you have to do in the moment you take the gas away.
    I will not thank you for reading this but your motorcycle will😇

  • @resendefr
    @resendefr 9 років тому

    Hello RJ
    I am thinking of buying a Quick Shifter, and after seeing your video comparison was thinking about the following:
    The aim of the Quickshift, is to pass the gearbox at high speeds faster. In my opinion is an extra that makes little sense to walk at low speed ... but no doubt giving style :)
    Good videos;)

  • @SpooK3KingMilk
    @SpooK3KingMilk 5 років тому

    i had no idea that this was a thing... RJ.. you are a life saver sometimes :)

  • @asdfghjklzxcvbnm6874
    @asdfghjklzxcvbnm6874 7 років тому

    waning to you who never do this trick, it can cause uncontrollable smile when the first time you nail it.

  • @n.d715
    @n.d715 10 років тому

    Doing this on my YZF-125R now even though it does not make my slow turtle go faster it's a lot more fun ^_^ thanks for explaining so well RJ

  • @mikebono6082
    @mikebono6082 9 років тому

    Thank you very good information, I am a motocross guy and in competition you do not have time to use the clutch after tacking off.

  • @maxros91
    @maxros91 9 років тому +1

    i really like your technique, tried it and it worked!

  • @RandomGermanBrit
    @RandomGermanBrit 9 років тому +1

    RJ, I love how your accent comes and goes. It's hilarious!
    Keep up with the nice videos

  • @Thunderous71
    @Thunderous71 10 років тому

    Haha I know where that spot is too... the river and the sports center is the giveaway ;) Nice info.

  • @mystikflight
    @mystikflight 10 років тому

    The quick shift sounds good , still use to doing the clutch thing though . Good video ...

  • @Viper6-MotoVlogger
    @Viper6-MotoVlogger 10 років тому

    Nice vid mate! I've even performed clutch less shifts on my cruiser. Works really well. Ride safe.

  • @DutchRider930
    @DutchRider930 10 років тому

    Nice Clear video! :) I first did load up ,, but now i'll try without :) thanks for the tips!

  • @LozzaTurbo
    @LozzaTurbo 10 років тому

    Love the ending with a viewer/fan. Awesome.

  • @Crana
    @Crana 10 років тому

    When I was learning to ride geared bikes back in my L plate days I discovered clutchless shifting through forgetting to use the clutch but I found the bike was happy with it, in fact it sounded better changing up and seemed quicker so I just continued with it and now many years later it's just second nature.

  • @musashidanmcgrath
    @musashidanmcgrath 5 років тому

    Just bought a ZX6R last week with a quickshifter already installed. Never rode with a quickshifter before, but it isn't as much fun without clutching it. At first, it didn't even feel like I'd gone to 2nd because the shift was so smooth. Also, sometimes the box gets jammed at 2nd at low revs. Weird not having to throttle off and downshift rev matching isn't as much fun either. Or maybe I just need more practice.

  • @_Just_Some1
    @_Just_Some1 10 років тому

    Can't wait for the akras to arrive for your bike RJ!!

  • @StevesHornet900
    @StevesHornet900 10 років тому +44

    ...it's all very well, but central London isn't a racetrack...if a kangaroo jumps out from a hedge - it's goodnight Vienna for you, and a bunch of tourists, who may be taking pictures of the Pyramids and perhaps not looking at the traffic, would be covered in the pizzas you deliver.....and then when the rozzers turn up, it'll be ''Ere, yowa nicked my san, wiv bin aftah yah fowa manfs, yu bleedin' 'ooligan.....'' etc etc....and it's cast-iron underpants time, with 2 years in the Scrubs. Why not do a 'track day'...or have a go at the TT course...on 'Mad Sunday'...next week!

    • @MartinUnited97
      @MartinUnited97 10 років тому +49

      Ehh, what?

    • @NickIslingtonBiker
      @NickIslingtonBiker 10 років тому +1

      Errr... Did I hear you mention pizza?! I am starving ;)

    • @StevesHornet900
      @StevesHornet900 10 років тому +4

      ...I mean T.T course, in the Isle of Man, typing TT looks like 'pi' the geometrical symbol representing the equation of a circles' diameter and it's relation to it's circumference....typing V.V is tricky too, as it looks like a 'w'....see ; VV or vv, so the word 'revving' for example, looks like it's pronounced 'rooing'...as in ''rooing my engine''...which is just silly......{YES, I know it's all cobblers - but it's RAINED all day and I've been stuck in, bored shitless, faffing about ont tinternet.}

    • @StevesHornet900
      @StevesHornet900 10 років тому

      Nick Anderson ....as well as an Oil Shiek, he also delivers Speedy-Pizzas / Ratburgers around London....probably. ...I mean , why ELSE would you tear around the crowded city at warp speed?

    • @NickIslingtonBiker
      @NickIslingtonBiker 10 років тому +1

      I want pizza ;)

  • @superbikebilly3868
    @superbikebilly3868 7 років тому

    I always upshift clutchless on my (01) R1, it's quicker, smoother, quieter and less effort in my opinion. Great vid RJ, keep them coming. 👍

  • @DANDIIDAY1111
    @DANDIIDAY1111 10 років тому +1

    wow I never knew you could do this if feels so good when you do a smooth clutchless shift

  • @allfasten
    @allfasten 9 років тому

    One can also do clutchless downshifts. I rode across town without using a brake just to see if it can be done (it wasn't during rush hour, mind you). But I must say it wasn't very practical, unless of course some one steals all your brakes and you have to make it home somehow. :)

  • @funn104
    @funn104 7 років тому

    clutchless upshift: keep pressure applied on the shift lever all the time and to shift simply back off and on again and it will flick into the next gear when the pressure is backed off the throttle. the pressure on the gear lever should be enough to slip up into next gear. easier than trying to time it.

  • @capailldubh
    @capailldubh 8 років тому

    Back in the 70's I broke my YAS1 125 clutch casing. Spare money was for beer so I rode it clutchless after that. Bit of a push, drop her into 1st.. she would downchange too if ya unloaded the drivetrain right. Rode all my bikes up gear like that ever since. I change down now with the clutch, easier on the chain etc.

  • @balloakz9857
    @balloakz9857 10 років тому +29

    Mr Jordanian sir, I like your bikes ears, what make are they? Anyone?

    • @royaljordanian
      @royaljordanian  10 років тому +57

      Love the way you call them ears :) I presume you are talking about the mirrors. They are Rizoma Elisse.

    • @bruderrudiger9574
      @bruderrudiger9574 7 років тому

      RoyalJordanian Lol

  • @TigeroL42
    @TigeroL42 10 років тому

    Preloading the shifter will not wear your shifter cogs, as the reason it won't shift is that they are loaded by the acceleration and stick together, not allowing the shift cam and forks to operate and thus shift. What preloading might wear a bit is the shift forks, as they ride on a spinning surface with no bearings, only lubrication and loading the lever also loads the forks against their grooves. The effect must be pretty much nonexistent tho if you load it just under a second before engaging.

  • @IgWannA2
    @IgWannA2 8 років тому

    You can easily clutchless downshift too, just close the throttle a little bit to ease the tension, kick down and at the same time quickly accelerate to match the higher revs of the lower gear and it'll slip in no problem. I have a quickshifter for upshifts which is just that bit quicker, as the name suggests..!

  • @bayenne5b
    @bayenne5b 9 років тому +1

    When I learned for my car drivers license the instructor wanted me to try this (in a BMW). I did it twice and it didn't make a bad sound, but I don't think car gearboxes are designed to do it. Maybe I'm wrong. Sorry for my bad English

    • @bayenne5b
      @bayenne5b 9 років тому

      ***** I know, that's why my instructor made me do it. He wanted to show it's possible. He even showed how to clutchless downshift by giving some gas, but I never tried that

    • @Yggdrasil42
      @Yggdrasil42 8 років тому

      +bayenne5b I had to use it in my car once, when the clutch was giving me trouble. It's good to know how to do it, although the car's gearbox won't like you much.

  • @Awatchandy
    @Awatchandy 8 років тому

    LoL That was funny about being spotted but Great info about shifting though! The day you stop learning is the day you die!
    Ride safe my friend!

  • @adamszafranowski8472
    @adamszafranowski8472 9 років тому

    Go to cornwall, I live here, its a wonderfull place, could be moody with the weather but hey-ho, lots of places you can visit. :)

  • @GentlemanBikerVlog
    @GentlemanBikerVlog 10 років тому

    Sounds terrific on the Nuda when you blast through the gears like that.

    • @NickMrbadgerMartin
      @NickMrbadgerMartin 10 років тому

      ha ha liked the outtake.......you never know who you will meet

  • @theangrycobbler2781
    @theangrycobbler2781 10 років тому

    Great Vid RJ!! Hope you do some more like this

  • @mkazub
    @mkazub 7 років тому

    To clarify: There is no difference in gearbox construction with or without qs, all the qs does is close the throttle for you. Now the pre-tensioning the gear lever in clutchless upshifting is a helpful thing while learning, u can (while accelerating ALWAYS and ONLY while accelerating at least slighlty) press the leaver up a little and it wont shift and then u just close a throttle for a sec and the gear will pop in - no change in pressure required, once u get a hold of it try eliminating the pre-tensioning period to 0 and there u go - a perfect clutchless upshift :) You are your own quickshifter now:) and Yes you can do it on every bike, and no it doesn not hurt your gearbox in any way. Shifting down without clutch or attempting clutchless upshift without load (no acceleration) that i do not reccomend:)

  • @YorikR32
    @YorikR32 9 років тому

    The Aprilia clutchless upshift is smoother and faster than both of those. While I don't think that all of the electronics on the RSV4 is the best, the upshift is nicer, the wheelie control is less obtrusive. The traction control really depends on the level.
    Just my opinion.

  • @TheStriker0525
    @TheStriker0525 10 років тому

    when I do clutchless upshifts I don't come all the way off the gas, and I hear quick shifters are bad for your gearbox in the long run. more vids like this please!

  • @raginraven31
    @raginraven31 10 років тому +4

    Does anyone know how old RJ is? Or is it just his accent making him sound older?
    Great inspiration nontheless.

  • @coast2coast00
    @coast2coast00 10 років тому

    Clutchless shifting will cause more wear to the transmission, but it's very little and motorcycle transmissions are normally very strong.. So for example you might get 280k miles on a transmission instead of 300k miles. You could also argue that having the extra clutch wear if you use the clutch on upshifts could make your oil dirtier and deteriorate quicker which would make up for that difference anyway.
    So I guess what I'm saying is that it both does and does not cause more wear(depending on how you look at it).

  • @iodineclip
    @iodineclip 7 років тому

    ive once had my clutch cable snapped in the middle of a commute, ive learnt clutchless upshifts and downshifts since then.

  • @jasonchampaneri
    @jasonchampaneri 7 років тому +4

    So from my understanding you don't need to depress the clutch lever to up shift but you need to cancel the throttle momentarily. But for downshifting you must depress the clutch lever? And this is not damaging to the gearbox at all?

  • @MrLeoadams
    @MrLeoadams 10 років тому

    Come to Cornwall! Some real nice roads and places, with views that are jusr mind blowing! XD

  • @prndownload
    @prndownload 10 років тому

    My goal is smooth therefore I use just the right amount of clutch and throttle in combination. Every bike and every circumstance is a little different though but you end up mastering it. The best gearbox I've ever encountered was while test riding a honda cb1000r. I swear I didn't even know if the gear was changing or not it was that clean.

  • @TheDublinjm
    @TheDublinjm 10 років тому

    as an old school courier(17 yrs bikin. 9 courering) clutchless ups were around b4 quickshifters. & down can be done the same as long as u get the revs matched. was doin them on bandit 6,, xj900 gt 550 ,& on an r1. can up shift on my xjr1300 like its auto. tbh haven't tried down shiftin on it yet lol

  • @editorsheavon5643
    @editorsheavon5643 9 років тому

    that bike dude omg almost better then the s1000rr

  • @JerronHonda
    @JerronHonda 8 років тому

    Nice One.I do it in my Duke 690 from 1st to 4-5th without even a small sound coming from transmision if im spelling right.
    Some people when i say it they say its impossible lol
    Ride Daily brings everything

  • @SmokinZen
    @SmokinZen 6 років тому

    It took me a while to get the hang of it but it can be done very quickly. Rev matching is what you do when down shifting. I do not recommend quick shifting going up hill it is not as easy as using the clutch in some cases.

  • @2608mbt
    @2608mbt 10 років тому

    Great video I practise all the time but still have to use the clutch most of the time.ride safe cya

  • @jesse68569
    @jesse68569 10 років тому

    nice video as always RJ

  • @nickbenderer3086
    @nickbenderer3086 9 років тому +1

    I think it all depends on how fast you can kick up. Now I'm only 16 and I am aiming to get the s1000rr for a bike when I'm 18 have A LOT of money saved up lol. But I will switch the shifting to GP shifting so down is gear up and up is gear down. Because it is harder on a sport bike to kick up. You need to move your whole leg (so I read) and in GP is you see all they need to do is just kick down lol. Think about them trying to kick up at speed lol.

  • @danieldeutschen7714
    @danieldeutschen7714 7 років тому

    If anyone wonders if clutchless upshifts hurt the gearbox: Watch Opferman's Video on the topic, he explains in great detail on an open gearbox why it doesn't increase wear.

  • @HC4L666
    @HC4L666 8 років тому

    Yesssss, Smoother quicker faster !!!!!! I do it on my 1998 kawa Er5....

  • @MrFabMoto
    @MrFabMoto 10 років тому

    Very nice, man!

  • @thebanditsix
    @thebanditsix 5 років тому

    I have always done clutch less upshift on my Bandit 600 for years with no problems, much smoother.

  • @tombowater2589
    @tombowater2589 10 років тому

    Thanks for the video RJ :) will defiantly give it ago!

  • @triumph157
    @triumph157 10 років тому

    great vidio got to try it out on the v-strom now,just hope it works ok.

  • @RKRRandomKnightRider88
    @RKRRandomKnightRider88 9 років тому +1

    LOL , go figure. You prematurely get mad at him. and its a fan . HAHA
    Good video ive been working on doing this myself with both my bikes.
    Still working on timing.

  • @PantsuGod
    @PantsuGod 7 років тому

    I got fast at upshifting with the clutch very early, so clutchless upshifting wasn't a problem. Clutchless is the same as doing it very quickly normally, just without the clutch.

  • @RGimeldo
    @RGimeldo 7 років тому

    So Ive just started doing this on my bike, its amazing how smooth the ride becomes but I still dont get it 100%
    Most of the times I go from 1st to 2nd gear when the lever "clicks in" the bike acelerates and pushes me back... the higher the gear the less this happens... Throttle completely off, I guess I dont sync it too well yet, practice will tell.
    Downshifts are very easy with a blip of the throttle on LOW RPMs. I dont have the practice or the balls to try any of this at high rpms yet.
    Bike is a Iron883, Big hug from Chile.

  • @kordoliver
    @kordoliver 8 років тому

    I had an ignition cutout that worked real good just unloads the gears for jut a split second

  • @HORNET6
    @HORNET6 8 років тому +1

    When you preload with foot pressure you wear the selector dogs not the cogs. Clutch less shifting up the box is harmless when done correctly.

    • @IgWannA2
      @IgWannA2 8 років тому

      +HORNET6 How about downshifts? I can shift pretty smooth but wondered if it does any damage in the long run, especially at low gears.

    • @HORNET6
      @HORNET6 8 років тому

      Yes and yes. "Don't do it" I was told by a very good bike engine builder. It's a bad habit and kills gearboxes. plus you get to use the clutch like a slipper clutch by controlling re-engagement, (separate subject)

  • @2dL
    @2dL 10 років тому

    I've been doing clutchless upshifting for a while now (since I started riding) and it's a lot better than using the clutch.

  • @bikersquest
    @bikersquest 10 років тому

    Haha the ending was pretty cool

  • @gargotthbg3151
    @gargotthbg3151 7 років тому

    Great video.
    You are shifting at mid range revs. I find this also like you very easy to clutchless shift. Mostly because you are already off the throttle when you want to shift.
    If you are on throttle 100% and want to change it is much harder to off throttle and back on clutchless. Just hitting the gear is seemless.
    I think if you clutchless shift mid gear I think you are right.

  • @beloved_lover
    @beloved_lover 10 років тому

    Nice to see people recognizing you :)

  • @j.thomas7128
    @j.thomas7128 3 роки тому

    Clutchless shifting is just more FUN! If someone is wearing the gears, then it's because of the rider isn't doing it right. Practice practice practice.

  • @MrMingham
    @MrMingham 5 років тому

    Clear and good advise but you don't really need to knock the throttle off as much as you do to be fair 👍

  • @itchyscratchy8216
    @itchyscratchy8216 7 років тому +1

    Man I love the carbon details on the nuda and the BMW !! Where they add on's or did you buy like that RJ ?

  • @Okipouros
    @Okipouros 6 років тому

    There are 5 ways to shift:
    - close the throttle, clutch
    - close the throttle
    - use clutch
    - use quickshifter
    - push kill switch while swifting

  • @MrStripeHusky
    @MrStripeHusky 10 років тому

    I'm on an Aprilia Tuono and the quickshifter is much faster for normal use, but much slower to change several gears in a row, as the gear lever is very stiff. In a race to 6th gear for the sake of getting to 6th, my old FZ6R would win every time.

  • @relph3
    @relph3 7 років тому

    I just re-watched this upload "Quick Shifter vs. Clutchless upshifts" and was thinking it is probably more relevant now (May 2017) being three years later.
    In the early 80's when I was about 17/18 (53 at the time of writing this) I remember an older lad showing me how to make a gear "racing" change without using the clutch and have used the technique ever since. This actually uses the slack in the chain and gear components to momentarily disengage the engine forces so the gear shift can be made. It is slightly more difficult to clutch-less change a shaft drive bike.
    Would it be possible to make a dedicated video on how to make clutch-less changes which I think is getting to be a forgotten art with a lot of newer riders starting there riding experiences on "twist n go's".

  • @wowrogue192
    @wowrogue192 10 років тому

    Thanks for the upload!

  • @CbrHooniganSendit
    @CbrHooniganSendit 10 років тому

    Mastering the downshifts is the hard part ;)

  • @unknownnn18
    @unknownnn18 10 років тому

    Great video as always RJ, I can do the clutch-less upshifts they are rather easy but any tips on clutch-less downshifts? they aren't as easy I find?

    • @royaljordanian
      @royaljordanian  10 років тому +2

      You can do downshifts, but you will destroy your Gearbox in no time, so it's a big no no.