If I watched this fight (or any fight involving Gundams from different timelines fighting each other) 5 years ago, I will definitely compose a 500 word essay on why the outcome of these fights are complete bullshit based on their technological capabilities from their respective timelines. Now I am wise enough to not waste my time on that and learnt to just shut my brain off and enjoy cool robot fighting.
@@saberlily1954 they're really not, qan t speedblitzes by their respective stats, being multiple times faster and more maneuverable, before trans-am and qantizing. Qan-T also massively overshadows the wing zero in destructive potency feats shown in their respective animes. It also has similar predictive capabilities thanks to the link to Veda. The only place where it falls behind is durability... but the question that must be asked is, why would it get hit in the first place?
@@SCComega as a certain OYW ace and heir to the Deikun legacy once said; "A mobile suit's abilities don't decide a battle's outcome." That, and everyone loves an underdog. (i guess it does depend on context ofc, but thats usually what these situations boil down to)
@@SCComega Didn't know there was a reply lol >qan t speedblitzes by their respective stats, being multiple times faster and more maneuverable, before trans-am and qantizing How? Wing Zero is lighter for one, it is faster than the straight line 15-20g's that the Tallgeese can output and the feat of flying back to earth from the L3 point in EW was calced as the fastest non Phenex mainline Gundam speed feat. Even if we assumed the Qan[T] could accelerate faster than the Wing Zero we know it doesn't cause Setsuna can't handle it. Graham could barely handle the 12g turns from the Custom Overflag without coughing up blood, Lockon Stratos couldn't keep up with the Custom Overflag's speed even when assisted by A.I and was forced to draw his beam saber (Something he claimed no one could make him do.) and they were still fielding weaker version of the Custom Flag in Trailblazer. Sanji also could deal with the Trans Am Raiser's acceleration and is an untrained civilian, so we know that the 00 mechs are either incapable of that level of movement or are being held back for the sake of the pilots something the A.C mechs aren't doing because all the pilots are blatantly more superhuman. Zero System makes the Wing Zero far more maneuverable on top of its wing design. The Zero System connects directly to the pilot's brain allowing them to move as if it's an extension of themselves. This removes a ton of the issues that come up from lag times with physically operated peripherals that Setsuna would have to deal with (This is of course ignore the predict the future bit). The wings have hundreds of small verniers, and their size and movement have a far more positive effect on the AMBAC system then the standard human shape of the Qan[T]. I feel like the issue you had is Wing is an anime made in the mid 90's with the budget of the cheese in the fridge while 00 was made in a post SEED Gunpla world in the late 2000's so it looks a lot more maneuverable because of the animation but the specs disagree. > Qan-T also massively overshadows the wing zero in destructive potency feats shown in their respective animes. This depends mostly on how you value calcs or your personal visual ideas. The 00 Qan[T]s Trans Am Sword was calced at 1.9 teratons The Wing Zero's Twin Buster Rifle was calced at 2.8 teratons This is generally due to the fact that the energy required to vaporize a 20 km A.C Space Colony (Size grabbed from an EW guidebook) made out of titanium even if 80% empty space would be higher than leaving that gash on the ELS planetoid. Now even if we don't really look at the calcs we just went with the 00 Qan[T] as having the better feat it's still not helping. The Quantum Sword is the ONLY thing on the Qan[T] that comes close to matching the TBR and requires set up, Setsuna has to aim it, he has to bring in his GN Bits to make the GN Buster Sword, he has to activate his Trans Am. It took over 6 seconds just to set up the Quantum Sword in the movie which is 3 times as long as it took Wing Zero to fire a shot to destroy the large asteroid base during its first appearance with more than enough power to destroy the 00 Qan[T]. In a one-on-one fight with a unit making 20+ G maneuvers and a pilot who is actively reading the future he doesn't have 6 seconds to set that up. >It also has similar predictive capabilities thanks to the link to Veda. Veda and ZERO aren't the same and Veda does not predict in the same way as ZERO. Veda makes general tactical plans that others need to follow but doesn't seem to take into consideration the potential individual actions of the pilots and isn't used to make individual prediction in split second moments which is why Sumeragi was even needed. ZERO is the superior battle computer as it predicts the outcomes of specific actions and gives every possible result to the pilot. This is the difference Veda will tell Setsuna that he should have the general strategy of getting in and fighting the Wing Zero in melee since the Twin Buster Rifle is its strongest weapon. ZERO will tell Heero that Setsuna is swinging at your right side and if you counter it with X he will do Y and you could die but if you counter it with A he will do B but then if you do C he will die ect ect till every outcome is covered.
00 quanta has gn bits which it can be used as shield, multiply attack at long and close range But this chick doesnt use it properly making my eye bleed
I feel like this is a short MG WZ EW ver ka promotion that they squeezed into the build episode because if we really put Setsuna in 00 Qan[T] and Heero in Wing Zero Custom then put them into a real fight, no gunpla simulation, WZC will be shredded within seconds.
It's like when Ribbon got annoyed by Tieria during his fight with Setsuna,show how much superior is 0079 Char than 00 final boss that he even mocking his piloting skill that 00 only depending on their Gundam magic
Setsuna: **quantum burst** zero system get interrupted by gn particles causing it to shut down. Hero: what happen?... i feel warm and calm like i never feel this feeling before. **Heero hear Strange force in his head** Dear pilot in that mobile suit are you hear me?. Heero: that voice... it is come from my target?....
Sorry only in your dream WingTard and Seed Tard,IBO tard 00 Verse and Setsuna>>>>>all the bland Mary Sue protagonist from UC,Wing,Seed,IBO UC is too overrated,00 should be the one to take over its mantle
@@faisfaiz4353 I agree, every universe is unique in its own way and has things that make them enjoyable. Personally I love the UC universe as they still try to adhere to semi real physics (minus the newtype wizardry ofc, but at least even that was explained somehwhat via the psycommu system)
I just can't bring myself to like Build Fighters. Occasionally it can be okay, but generally it's just too different from what I like about the franchise.
This one came from the 4th Build series the Divers, a vr gunpla game. They are more or less more matured than the 3rd one but shared the same continuity. You can skip the 3rd one though some character background/events are more polished there.
its a show all the stuff is technobabble it goes like this wing is cooler so he wins because its all made up they could write wing any way they want the guy in charge of the writing staff could make it the most powerful gundam ever its called i m a g i n a t i o n
@Affiliation doesn't matter Don't be fanatics okay? You're thinking Wing. Zero's use of the buster rifle scales dynamically against the enemy its fighting -- which if we lean into the implication of minovsky physics at work (something named on several readouts, especially on the Vayate's cannon) that it uses a similar collector system. This is why the power is shown to scale massively: No m-particle scattering resulting in a less effective buster rifle, like trying to ignite petrol vs air.
Now I know the Qanta should've been able to beat wing zero bc gn drive bs but.... Dam something about the main movie Gundam from one of my favorite series obliterating the main movie Gundam from one of the only Gundam series I disliked is just so satisfying.
the only ones that agree with the outcome are those who hold Build series with regards to accuracy. Any casual or intellectual fans know this outcome is far from accurate.
@I am Petitgguy Exactly. Thank You. In Build series, Gunpla Battle Nexus Online (GBN) literally uses the "G.U.N.P.L.A. system" to evaluate a GUNPLA. G) General / Grade : An overall evaluation including the level of completion U) Unique: Uniqueness of the concept N) Nimbleness: Speed and mobility P) Power: Output and firepower L) Luxury: Gorgeousness or beauty A) Armor: Defense capabilities An HG Turn A Gundam with a score significantly lower than a HG Leo WILL BE WEAKER IN THE GAME. That doesn't mean an anime accurate Leo can beat Turn A from Light of Life Chronicle UC. It's a game. A Guncannon can beat Unicorn Destroy Mode. A Zaku can beat Strike Freedom. Heck, a Meijin Kawaguchi built SD Guntank can beat an MG Turn A built by a complete novice.
you guys really dont know how zero system works, dont you? it feeds up information to the pilot to see possible outcomes for victory. i dont care whether what system Qant uses but Wing Zero pretty sure scores some pretty number of battles over and over against it.
Yeah such a good system wasted on a dumb pilot who likes to suicide bomb/do stupid things amidst the ongoing battle. I highly doubt the Zero system can keep up with trans am's speed. Not even considering about the pilot's skills and the suit's capabilities since it'll be unfair to Heero.
@@SukasahaSukadi Speed isn't that important when you can anticipate your enemy's best and worst positions and funnel them into those positions. Look up Claud E Shannon's work on chess computers: Qant might be able to know your next move, but Zero is planning and reacting twenty or thirty moves deep and will likely exploit enemy dependence on mind-reading to give them false information to deliberately feed them bad positions - bluffing, like a good poker player.
@@osakanone how tf will you anticipate a literal universe teleporting suit let alone, where QanT will appear after quantization? Even if by some offset chance that Zero system did manage to calculate the victory route, how will Heero cope with the stress of being fed with millions of data of where in the vast universe could QanT appear and snipe him from afar using QanT sword or some other route that Setsuna could trans am then ram him then quantize then have him guess again? Bringing real life deduction/anticipation methods won't be of any help against the BS that QanT can pull. Don't even get me started on the firepower that QanT sword can do.
@@SukasahaSukadi The same way AI plays chess: You cull unsurvivable enemy moves from your simulation and you go all in on yomi and statistical analysis. You also don't measure *every* position -- you only simulate *viable* positions so you handle and assume for the worst case scenario. If someone's going in for CQC and they've teleported, its pretty obvious that the input velocity and output velocity of exit and arrival will be the same because the frame of reference of teleportation cannot exist. This gives you a predictable framework to work with, so you change your frame of reference so the travel time of the teleportation (which isn't instantaneous, but always fixed with zero travel between two locations, only translocation) to then use the knowledge of the exit velocity to then determine what the probable attacking angles are going to be and thus respond BEFORE the quantization actually begins -- which again, is just yomi 101. If this seems weird, watch this: ua-cam.com/video/NEyOkXFmkPA/v-deo.html Figuring this trick out is literally how you beat Anubis when you *don't* have Zero Shift in multiplayer. Any strength brings with it flaws. Quantization brings with it an activation lag, and a predictable exit orientation and velocity, even if the exit location is NOT predictable. Zero is all about maximizing the effective use of *any* prediction available to you to make inferences. Unless Quant is in the business of making entirely useless movements 70%+ of the time, its going to make mistakes. Plus the engine flare is the same trick the Kshatriya used to crush the Stark Jegan. Really put it in its place. Go figure Quant would fall to the same move. Plus what is Zero if not making the warrior free from all distractions?
Isn't she is veteran and elite pilot for her group? And Par was only an alright pilot that better in using SD MS type,and Par can't even dodge any attack from Quanta because he is bad at using normal sized MS and had to rely on flash bomb to win
Ok there's a major error first off the wing gundam twin buster rifle was fried by a emp offscrean and secondly that's the incorrect output of the twin buster rifle
To think a suit with top of the line technology that can obliterate the entire ELS race in a month get piloted by a child, got distracted. And shot down by a suit with a normal beam cannon. Wing EW wasn’t even that well equipped, best thing it got is the Zero system, which predicts movement, but if he can’t counter it. The system gives up.
If heero was the pilot, that battle would have been much shorter :P Probably would have given up in the first 5 seconds and fallen into the ocean or something :P Lol.jk. wing is life.
If setsuna was pilot in 00 quanta it can be long story Imagine heero with zero system can fight expert celestial being mobile suit pilot aka setsuna f seiei the innovator that can read people mind at long range.
@@faisfaiz4353 TBH, I wanna see Setsuna try to read Heero's mind while he's inside the ZERO System. Poor starry eyed idealist would probably go mad just like Quatre.
@@luminusprime If Setsuna Still has his brain intact upon getting info dumped about the ELS' Entire history in mere moments in 00 Raiser, he can handle the ZERO system easier than a literal 10,000 years old alien that has assimilated entire civilizations adding their own memories into the ELS' consciousness. Infinite is just another term for unquantifiable. And Zechs, a normal human with no super brain enhancement handled the Zero system.
Buster Rifles are like the power of mega launchers. Just about any gundam would get vaporized by it maybe not Stardust though because of the nuclear shield or any of the unicorns.
Gn bit shield may cant be penetrated easily by wing zero beam rifle since gn particle was really strong particle in gundam franchise. Only gn can penetrate gn
@@MarkzOng wouldn't matter anyway since you can't tank a freaking High Output energy weapon like Twin Buster rifle in the face without taking some damage even with an I-field (Beam shield isn't going to cut it)
@@MaxHDAvenger it's just theoretical. The other party may have also high output to generate a higher I field or beam shield. Let's say the both technology is the same between UC and AC, imagine a beast the size of GP03 or V gundam battleship output as compared with a MS ?
@@MaxHDAvenger The Qan T is utilizing GN Drives that has the same output and the same specs for the Twin Drive System to use. It's enough to create a 50 kilometer wide and an unknown beam length monster of a beam sword capable of fitting 8 colony lasers. That particle output is more than enough for Qan T's GN Field to block WZC's weaponry.
Nah, this is in Gundam Build Fighters. The real pilot's are not piloting them. Plus if this was the original 00 Q fighting against Wing, Wing wouldn't stood a chance as 00Q's bits can shoot and has higher specs in terms of everything. Sure, WZ has the Zero system, but QAN T has Trans Am. It would be like when Luffy fought Kaido for the first time in the manga. He foresaw Kaido hitting him, but he can't dodge it because it's just too fast.
@@Joshua_N-A ELS QuanT should be the antithesis of Turn A. But 00 QuanT is too much for wing zero to handle anyway. A better match is 00 Raiser and we still have to restrict the Trans Am System.
@@gindias7119 Don't bother with 00... Exia would suffice if Graham piloting Flag Custom still receives 12G's at it's full speed WITH G Dampeners on, just think of Exia in Trans Am. It would be a far more than a fair match for WZC. Sure, WZ has the Zero system, but Exia has Trans Am. It would be like when Luffy fought Kaido for the first time in the manga. He foresaw Kaido hitting him, but he can't dodge it because it's just too fast for him to react fast enough in the present.
you guys really dont know how zero system works, dont you? it feeds up information to the pilot to see possible outcomes for victory. i dont care whether what system Qant uses but Wing Zero pretty sure scores some pretty number of battles over and over against it.
@@teenan5178 I'll admit now I'm a wing fanboy but I defend zero being able to beat exia on the basis that in space combat I feel zero has the edge. The wings are impractical yes but taking fictional physics into play they provide amazing manueverability in space from ambac and the thrusters, also with the fact that only the sub wings are actually needs to maintain mobility. And the zero system I feel could logically still come out with an out come for victory, given Heero can take way more stress than a regular pilot, (handling the system alone is an Amazing ft itself). Now I admit you can pull out the gn particles card on how they make a suit highly mobile and the use of trans am as well. But this is why I feel exia has the she over zero in atmosphere, as gn particles really show advantages over conventional suits and thrusters there
@@SeanyBoy589 I completely acknowledge wing zero's performance. But Exia is on a league of his own. The GN Particles' mass reduction effect also lightens the Gundam, and can be used to alter the mass ratio of various body parts. Due to this latter ability, it is possible to freely control the machine's inertia and turning capabilities when in the air, and for Active Mass Balance Auto-Control (AMBAC) when in space. (referenced from wikia and MG Exia manual). And the fight with Alvatore (/watch?v=P5mJA_UeSL4) completely had me convinced. Watch it from 1:50 onwards, I really don't think Wing Zero can come close to Exia's performance. Even if Zero System can 100% predict Exia's actions down to the minute detail, Wing Zero simply has no means of sufficient machine performance to carry out countermeasures. But that's just my opinion. You are entitled to have yours. It's just that I don't think there's a need to convince me otherwise. :)
I’m definitely on the side of 00 Gundams being stronger than Wing Gundams but I don’t see Exia beating Wing Zero and the Zero system. Exia struggled with suits far below Wing Zero’s level. I think that Exia vs Wing Zero is a tough fight for Zero but it edges out Exia on sheer durability, the Zero system and Heero. Hell, Heero I’m Wing Zero beats anything in Season 1 of 00 that doesn’t do Trans Am including GN Flag. You’re closer to being right than being wrong but you really downplayed Wing Zero. Wing Zero is outclassed by Exia in Speed while Exia trans ams but it is not outclassed to the point of being demolished within the time limit. Hell, we have seen Heero get outclassed in speed by a significant margin and hold out without the Zero system. Tall geese vs Heavyarms. Heero beats Exia with Wing Zero.
That's not the 00, it's the 00 Quanta from the movie that really should have just been a full season 3. But yes, it can do that. It's quantum teleportation.
Nah, this is in Gundam Build Fighters. The real pilot's are not piloting them. Plus if this was the original 00 Q fighting against Wing, Wing wouldn't stood a chance as 00Q's bits can shoot and has higher specs in terms of everything. Sure, WZ has the Zero system, but QAN T has Trans Am. It would be like when Luffy fought Kaido for the first time in the manga. Luffy foresaw Kaido hitting him, but he can't dodge it because it's just too fast. The Flag Custom from Season 1 in 00 alone out accelerates Tallgeese.
@@dontuspowerus1093 dude, your argument is on repeat lmao. and besides, dont go all over the comment section using one piece as comparison. that anime is on another level. make your arguments better, dipshit.
@@natsbuenviaje2282 I used one piece as a comparison due to the similar situation on what would happen to their fight. No one's telling you to not use Einstein's equations because his brain is on another level, dumb ass. Plus Wing Zero is not even an Interstellar suit. Innovators can also read minds as confirmed by Shaman plus with the confirmation from The Innovades that they can control electronics with their mind using their quantum brainwaves. And their brains are literally on another level compared to superhuman brains. Setsuna required alien history spanning over thousands or hundreds of thousands of years older than humanity itself to get knocked out of commission. He even has all of his memories intact after a confirmed brain damage. Innovators are literally capable of using the Zero system without worry.
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"Remember this well, if everything fails just self destruct." Heero
Dum fan comment taking things out of context again
If I watched this fight (or any fight involving Gundams from different timelines fighting each other) 5 years ago, I will definitely compose a 500 word essay on why the outcome of these fights are complete bullshit based on their technological capabilities from their respective timelines.
Now I am wise enough to not waste my time on that and learnt to just shut my brain off and enjoy cool robot fighting.
Wing Zero and 00 Qan[T] are relatively close though.
Gunpla battle, dude. What did you expect?
@@saberlily1954 they're really not, qan t speedblitzes by their respective stats, being multiple times faster and more maneuverable, before trans-am and qantizing. Qan-T also massively overshadows the wing zero in destructive potency feats shown in their respective animes. It also has similar predictive capabilities thanks to the link to Veda. The only place where it falls behind is durability... but the question that must be asked is, why would it get hit in the first place?
@@SCComega as a certain OYW ace and heir to the Deikun legacy once said; "A mobile suit's abilities don't decide a battle's outcome." That, and everyone loves an underdog. (i guess it does depend on context ofc, but thats usually what these situations boil down to)
@@SCComega
Didn't know there was a reply lol
>qan t speedblitzes by their respective stats, being multiple times faster and more maneuverable, before trans-am and qantizing
How? Wing Zero is lighter for one, it is faster than the straight line 15-20g's that the Tallgeese can output and the feat of flying back to earth from the L3 point in EW was calced as the fastest non Phenex mainline Gundam speed feat.
Even if we assumed the Qan[T] could accelerate faster than the Wing Zero we know it doesn't cause Setsuna can't handle it.
Graham could barely handle the 12g turns from the Custom Overflag without coughing up blood, Lockon Stratos couldn't keep up with the Custom Overflag's speed even when assisted by A.I and was forced to draw his beam saber (Something he claimed no one could make him do.) and they were still fielding weaker version of the Custom Flag in Trailblazer. Sanji also could deal with the Trans Am Raiser's acceleration and is an untrained civilian, so we know that the 00 mechs are either incapable of that level of movement or are being held back for the sake of the pilots something the A.C mechs aren't doing because all the pilots are blatantly more superhuman.
Zero System makes the Wing Zero far more maneuverable on top of its wing design. The Zero System connects directly to the pilot's brain allowing them to move as if it's an extension of themselves. This removes a ton of the issues that come up from lag times with physically operated peripherals that Setsuna would have to deal with (This is of course ignore the predict the future bit). The wings have hundreds of small verniers, and their size and movement have a far more positive effect on the AMBAC system then the standard human shape of the Qan[T]. I feel like the issue you had is Wing is an anime made in the mid 90's with the budget of the cheese in the fridge while 00 was made in a post SEED Gunpla world in the late 2000's so it looks a lot more maneuverable because of the animation but the specs disagree.
> Qan-T also massively overshadows the wing zero in destructive potency feats shown in their respective animes.
This depends mostly on how you value calcs or your personal visual ideas.
The 00 Qan[T]s Trans Am Sword was calced at 1.9 teratons
The Wing Zero's Twin Buster Rifle was calced at 2.8 teratons
This is generally due to the fact that the energy required to vaporize a 20 km A.C Space Colony (Size grabbed from an EW guidebook) made out of titanium even if 80% empty space would be higher than leaving that gash on the ELS planetoid. Now even if we don't really look at the calcs we just went with the 00 Qan[T] as having the better feat it's still not helping. The Quantum Sword is the ONLY thing on the Qan[T] that comes close to matching the TBR and requires set up, Setsuna has to aim it, he has to bring in his GN Bits to make the GN Buster Sword, he has to activate his Trans Am. It took over 6 seconds just to set up the Quantum Sword in the movie which is 3 times as long as it took Wing Zero to fire a shot to destroy the large asteroid base during its first appearance with more than enough power to destroy the 00 Qan[T]. In a one-on-one fight with a unit making 20+ G maneuvers and a pilot who is actively reading the future he doesn't have 6 seconds to set that up.
>It also has similar predictive capabilities thanks to the link to Veda.
Veda and ZERO aren't the same and Veda does not predict in the same way as ZERO.
Veda makes general tactical plans that others need to follow but doesn't seem to take into consideration the potential individual actions of the pilots and isn't used to make individual prediction in split second moments which is why Sumeragi was even needed.
ZERO is the superior battle computer as it predicts the outcomes of specific actions and gives every possible result to the pilot.
This is the difference Veda will tell Setsuna that he should have the general strategy of getting in and fighting the Wing Zero in melee since the Twin Buster Rifle is its strongest weapon.
ZERO will tell Heero that Setsuna is swinging at your right side and if you counter it with X he will do Y and you could die but if you counter it with A he will do B but then if you do C he will die ect ect till every outcome is covered.
Just wait till Setsuna sees how his new girl got butchered
00 quanta has gn bits which it can be used as shield, multiply attack at long and close range
But this chick doesnt use it properly making my eye bleed
I am Gundammmmmm!!!!!slash Setsuna Quanta to thr future
クアンタムバーストの使い方違うだろ
I feel like this is a short MG WZ EW ver ka promotion that they squeezed into the build episode because if we really put Setsuna in 00 Qan[T] and Heero in Wing Zero Custom then put them into a real fight, no gunpla simulation, WZC will be shredded within seconds.
I feel like Bandai / Sunrise disagree.... plus, they could've easily used another Gundam. But they chose 00....
@@suggsverse tell that to the entirety of the build series where Turn A got beaten by a bearguy.
@@gindias7119 Even Turn A's brother felt that crotch upper cut punch
@@revis0nedrelived830 i know right
@@gindias7119 power balance is unaccurate in Gundam Build series
This happened when you're not prepared for the enemy's distraction.
They couldn't use Zero System, so they created an alternative. I get it.
It's like when Ribbon got annoyed by Tieria during his fight with Setsuna,show how much superior is 0079 Char than 00 final boss that he even mocking his piloting skill that 00 only depending on their Gundam magic
Heero yuey: Mission Accepted!
Sestuna F Seia: Eliminating Target!
Setsuna: **quantum burst**
zero system get interrupted by gn particles causing it to shut down.
Hero: what happen?... i feel warm and calm like i never feel this feeling before.
**Heero hear Strange force in his head**
Dear pilot in that mobile suit are you hear me?.
Heero: that voice... it is come from my target?....
クアンタムバーストしてからの切りつけようとしてるところカッコよくてすこ！
かっこいいんだが現れるトコを何故真っ正面にしたのか...背後から奇襲掛ければ良かったのに..とか詰めの甘さに目がいってしまう。
@@木木はひ森 目の前から消えて普通なら背後警戒するからあえて正面から来たんじゃないの？
@@十六夜黒兎 そこで上下方向まで考えつかなかったのが敗因か
そもそもなんでバーストする必要が？
(バトローグ未視聴)
I wonder how Setsuna and Heero reaction that their Gundams piloted by kids.
It is just me realizing this is a battle of Wing verKA vs daban Quan[T] ?
they did the qan t dirty on this one ngl
In it's defense, he totally cheated by distracting her with a rare collectible so he could pull off that shot while she fangirled.
0:28
Wing Zero: “HA HA EAT MY SUPER LASER PISS!!!”
ガンプラバトルじゃなくて本家のほうの新供給がほしいねんな
Setsuna: 😱
Trash Seed Tard,Wing Tard,IBO tard gtfo of Gundam community
@@zadistixx9457 hater lmao
Aw I was hoping the quanta would win.
Uploader cut it out why Quanta lose but it was more or less due to pilot. This is just fun battle not really serious fight.
The pilot of Wing Zero Custom distracted Ayame when he is about to lose
@@alphajed7700 Par wasn't the best pilot,he mostly only good at using SD MS type and considered to be average pilot when using normal sized ms
well, ayame's piloting skills didnt optimize 00 quanta's potential power
Nah, it's a gunpla, not gundam that was made by Celestial Being. So everything in here is just for entertainment, don't take it too serious
Watching my all time fave ms wreck 00 quant brings a gleeful smile to my face
When wing zero destroy my favourite 00 quanta
Me: great 2020 finally break my heart again
@@faisfaiz4353 sorry only in your dream WingTard and Seed Tard,IBO tard,
Setsuna God Seiei>>>>>>>all the edgy Mary Sue Gundam protagonist
Sorry only in your dream WingTard and Seed Tard,IBO tard
00 Verse and Setsuna>>>>>all the bland Mary Sue protagonist from UC,Wing,Seed,IBO
UC is too overrated,00 should be the one to take over its mantle
@@zadistixx9457 nah man every franchise has its own unit.
I still like UC and other gundam franchise
@@faisfaiz4353 I agree, every universe is unique in its own way and has things that make them enjoyable. Personally I love the UC universe as they still try to adhere to semi real physics (minus the newtype wizardry ofc, but at least even that was explained somehwhat via the psycommu system)
You just got double beam rifled by the Wing Zero Custom, my boy
I just can't bring myself to like Build Fighters. Occasionally it can be okay, but generally it's just too different from what I like about the franchise.
it sucks the big one. the only good thing about the show is the cameos.
Season 1 and 2 were alright. Everything after that felt cash grab
the original build fighters was alright but as they milk the franchise it gets worse.
This one came from the 4th Build series the Divers, a vr gunpla game. They are more or less more matured than the 3rd one but shared the same continuity. You can skip the 3rd one though some character background/events are more polished there.
Same.
Holy crap! I didn't know Qan[T] could _teleport_ in Trans AM mode...
It was in trans am for a second then it went to quantum burst
Bro didn't watch the full movie
@@humha7613 I know.
Man good animation good art good color bad placement
That'd be an epic duel! Herro vs setsuna!
This is a gunpla battle, and the girl controls QanT can't even maximize all potential of 00Q
I want to see Extreme gundam vs Astraea type f2.
Let's be real here, Wing wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell vs. the Qant.
in your face
You mean Qant wouldn't stand a chance against Zero (and didn't).
Spite
its a show all the stuff is technobabble it goes like this wing is cooler so he wins because its all made up they could write wing any way they want the guy in charge of the writing staff could make it the most powerful gundam ever its called i m a g i n a t i o n
@Affiliation doesn't matter Don't be fanatics okay? You're thinking Wing. Zero's use of the buster rifle scales dynamically against the enemy its fighting -- which if we lean into the implication of minovsky physics at work (something named on several readouts, especially on the Vayate's cannon) that it uses a similar collector system. This is why the power is shown to scale massively: No m-particle scattering resulting in a less effective buster rifle, like trying to ignite petrol vs air.
I mean, I get they don't want to upset the Wing fanboys, but come on, be realistic here. Who would actually win?
Wing Zero ofcourse
@@tggun6579 Nah. The Quan[T] can easily outperform Wing Zero.
@@comradefreedom8275 NaH son, the Wing Zero is the Godfather of al Gundams. The zerosystem is broken af, it is unbeatable
@@tggun6579 I don't know how it can beat the equivalent of teleportation.
原典作品に遠く及ばない糞みたいな殺陣で笑う
これ装甲パージ全くする必要なくてなんでしたのかわからない
量子化はクアンタムバースト無しで出来るもんな…
@@嘉弥真明久 ファンサでしょうが設定には忠実にしてほしいですね...クアンタムバーストも対話の為だけの能力だからする必要ないしそもそもパージするのもフルパワーのときだけでGNドライブのクラビカルアンテナ立てて粒子放出するためだし
@@嘉弥真明久 これって量子化でしたっけ？ワープじゃありませんでしたっけ？
My two favorite gundams, but 00Qant would destroy WZC, in seconds
Naah, W slams
@@tggun6579 🎤🗑
When the hell did this happen?
Now I know the Qanta should've been able to beat wing zero bc gn drive bs but....
Dam something about the main movie Gundam from one of my favorite series obliterating the main movie Gundam from one of the only Gundam series I disliked is just so satisfying.
"Ninmu kanryo"
- Heero Yuy
I disagree with the outcome.
the only ones that agree with the outcome are those who hold Build series with regards to accuracy. Any casual or intellectual fans know this outcome is far from accurate.
@I am Petitgguy Exactly. Thank You. In Build series, Gunpla Battle Nexus Online (GBN) literally uses the "G.U.N.P.L.A. system" to evaluate a GUNPLA.
G) General / Grade : An overall evaluation including the level of completion
U) Unique: Uniqueness of the concept
N) Nimbleness: Speed and mobility
P) Power: Output and firepower
L) Luxury: Gorgeousness or beauty
A) Armor: Defense capabilities
An HG Turn A Gundam with a score significantly lower than a HG Leo WILL BE WEAKER IN THE GAME. That doesn't mean an anime accurate Leo can beat Turn A from Light of Life Chronicle UC.
It's a game. A Guncannon can beat Unicorn Destroy Mode. A Zaku can beat Strike Freedom. Heck, a Meijin Kawaguchi built SD Guntank can beat an MG Turn A built by a complete novice.
you guys really dont know how zero system works, dont you? it feeds up information to the pilot to see possible outcomes for victory. i dont care whether what system Qant uses but Wing Zero pretty sure scores some pretty number of battles over and over against it.
Yeah such a good system wasted on a dumb pilot who likes to suicide bomb/do stupid things amidst the ongoing battle.
I highly doubt the Zero system can keep up with trans am's speed.
Not even considering about the pilot's skills and the suit's capabilities since it'll be unfair to Heero.
@@SukasahaSukadi Speed isn't that important when you can anticipate your enemy's best and worst positions and funnel them into those positions. Look up Claud E Shannon's work on chess computers: Qant might be able to know your next move, but Zero is planning and reacting twenty or thirty moves deep and will likely exploit enemy dependence on mind-reading to give them false information to deliberately feed them bad positions - bluffing, like a good poker player.
@@SukasahaSukadi agree
@@osakanone how tf will you anticipate a literal universe teleporting suit let alone, where QanT will appear after quantization? Even if by some offset chance that Zero system did manage to calculate the victory route, how will Heero cope with the stress of being fed with millions of data of where in the vast universe could QanT appear and snipe him from afar using QanT sword or some other route that Setsuna could trans am then ram him then quantize then have him guess again?
Bringing real life deduction/anticipation methods won't be of any help against the BS that QanT can pull.
Don't even get me started on the firepower that QanT sword can do.
@@SukasahaSukadi The same way AI plays chess: You cull unsurvivable enemy moves from your simulation and you go all in on yomi and statistical analysis. You also don't measure *every* position -- you only simulate *viable* positions so you handle and assume for the worst case scenario.
If someone's going in for CQC and they've teleported, its pretty obvious that the input velocity and output velocity of exit and arrival will be the same because the frame of reference of teleportation cannot exist.
This gives you a predictable framework to work with, so you change your frame of reference so the travel time of the teleportation (which isn't instantaneous, but always fixed with zero travel between two locations, only translocation) to then use the knowledge of the exit velocity to then determine what the probable attacking angles are going to be and thus respond BEFORE the quantization actually begins -- which again, is just yomi 101.
If this seems weird, watch this: ua-cam.com/video/NEyOkXFmkPA/v-deo.html
Figuring this trick out is literally how you beat Anubis when you *don't* have Zero Shift in multiplayer.
Any strength brings with it flaws.
Quantization brings with it an activation lag, and a predictable exit orientation and velocity, even if the exit location is NOT predictable.
Zero is all about maximizing the effective use of *any* prediction available to you to make inferences.
Unless Quant is in the business of making entirely useless movements 70%+ of the time, its going to make mistakes.
Plus the engine flare is the same trick the Kshatriya used to crush the Stark Jegan. Really put it in its place.
Go figure Quant would fall to the same move.
Plus what is Zero if not making the warrior free from all distractions?
Just needs that one opening
Amazing
so does that make Ayame a terrible pilot because she fangirl mode on a Heero Yuy figure in the middle of a battle? lol
lol
Isn't she is veteran and elite pilot for her group?
And Par was only an alright pilot that better in using SD MS type,and Par can't even dodge any attack from Quanta because he is bad at using normal sized MS and had to rely on flash bomb to win
Ok there's a major error first off the wing gundam twin buster rifle was fried by a emp offscrean and secondly that's the incorrect output of the twin buster rifle
Quanta lose because the pilot is not an innovator. Just a ninja
To think a suit with top of the line technology that can obliterate the entire ELS race in a month
get piloted by a child, got distracted. And shot down by a suit with a normal beam cannon.
Wing EW wasn’t even that well equipped, best thing it got is the Zero system, which predicts movement, but if he can’t counter it. The system gives up.
If heero was the pilot, that battle would have been much shorter :P
Probably would have given up in the first 5 seconds and fallen into the ocean or something :P
Lol.jk. wing is life.
If setsuna was pilot in 00 quanta it can be long story
Imagine heero with zero system can fight expert celestial being mobile suit pilot aka setsuna f seiei the innovator that can read people mind at long range.
@@faisfaiz4353 true,he is God now
@@zadistixx9457 he ain't god, he's a gundam
@@faisfaiz4353 TBH, I wanna see Setsuna try to read Heero's mind while he's inside the ZERO System. Poor starry eyed idealist would probably go mad just like Quatre.
@@luminusprime If Setsuna Still has his brain intact upon getting info dumped about the ELS' Entire history in mere moments in 00 Raiser, he can handle the ZERO system easier than a literal 10,000 years old alien that has assimilated entire civilizations adding their own memories into the ELS' consciousness.
Infinite is just another term for unquantifiable. And Zechs, a normal human with no super brain enhancement handled the Zero system.
Wing 0 es la mera quesadilla de todo el universo gundam
普通に考えたらウイングに勝ち目無さそうだよな。機動力も火力も
ゼロシステムでなんとか...？って思ったけど、トランザムには勝てねぇーわ
Buster Rifles are like the power of mega launchers. Just about any gundam would get vaporized by it maybe not Stardust though because of the nuclear shield or any of the unicorns.
Gn bit shield may cant be penetrated easily by wing zero beam rifle since gn particle was really strong particle in gundam franchise.
Only gn can penetrate gn
You forget I field system in UC or beam shield system from F91 onwards.
@@MarkzOng wouldn't matter anyway since you can't tank a freaking High Output energy weapon like Twin Buster rifle in the face without taking some damage even with an I-field (Beam shield isn't going to cut it)
@@MaxHDAvenger it's just theoretical. The other party may have also high output to generate a higher I field or beam shield. Let's say the both technology is the same between UC and AC, imagine a beast the size of GP03 or V gundam battleship output as compared with a MS ?
@@MaxHDAvenger The Qan T is utilizing GN Drives that has the same output and the same specs for the Twin Drive System to use.
It's enough to create a 50 kilometer wide and an unknown beam length monster of a beam sword capable of fitting 8 colony lasers.
That particle output is more than enough for Qan T's GN Field to block WZC's weaponry.
Accurate
heero am sending your new gundam the wing gundam ver ka
My dream Gundam battle! Wing Zero is the best! Tied with the core Gundam
Just missing Strike Fredom
AHHHHHHH YESSSS!!!! I take it back the buld series might actually be pretty good. Peace ✌🏻
Setsuna cries in cringe on Ayame
🎤🗑
Canon?
Nah, this is in Gundam Build Fighters. The real pilot's are not piloting them.
Plus if this was the original 00 Q fighting against Wing, Wing wouldn't stood a chance as 00Q's bits can shoot and has higher specs in terms of everything.
Sure, WZ has the Zero system, but QAN T has Trans Am. It would be like when Luffy fought Kaido for the first time in the manga.
He foresaw Kaido hitting him, but he can't dodge it because it's just too fast.
What show is this one from
Build fighters moat likely.
one of the most annoying and crap gundam series ever created Gundam Build Divers Re:Rise
Well yah I knew that I never did watch any of the build series but the first one I think
@@jhhkthecollector7635 I actually really like Re:Rise. GBD is really bad but GBDRR goes full 180 and the Victory vibe it has is really refreshing.
@@jhhkthecollector7635 more like reeeee: rice
Cool
Too bad for Exia. Zero can see the future.
Exia ? Where is it ? I don't see any Exia here, just 00Q
If Heero and Setsuna were to fight for real, 00Q would wipe the floor with Wing Zero Custom
00Q is basically AD counterpart of Turn A?
@@Joshua_N-A ELS QuanT should be the antithesis of Turn A. But 00 QuanT is too much for wing zero to handle anyway. A better match is 00 Raiser and we still have to restrict the Trans Am System.
@@gindias7119 Don't bother with 00... Exia would suffice if Graham piloting Flag Custom still receives 12G's at it's full speed WITH G Dampeners on, just think of Exia in Trans Am. It would be a far more than a fair match for WZC.
Sure, WZ has the Zero system, but Exia has Trans Am. It would be like when Luffy fought Kaido for the first time in the manga.
He foresaw Kaido hitting him, but he can't dodge it because it's just too fast for him to react fast enough in the present.
@@dontuspowerus1093 Perhaps your right, Exia with Trans Am is deadly and extremely fast.
you guys really dont know how zero system works, dont you? it feeds up information to the pilot to see possible outcomes for victory. i dont care whether what system Qant uses but Wing Zero pretty sure scores some pretty number of battles over and over against it.
Realistically speaking, Exia should be enough to handle Wing Zero Custom. But I guess they have to do a promotional video for the MG ver Ka.
Doubtful. Don't see what Exia would accomplish.
@@suggsverse zero system is just going to predict its own demise. Either that or Heero will opt for self destruct. Exia is too fast for wing.
@@teenan5178 I'll admit now I'm a wing fanboy but I defend zero being able to beat exia on the basis that in space combat I feel zero has the edge. The wings are impractical yes but taking fictional physics into play they provide amazing manueverability in space from ambac and the thrusters, also with the fact that only the sub wings are actually needs to maintain mobility. And the zero system I feel could logically still come out with an out come for victory, given Heero can take way more stress than a regular pilot, (handling the system alone is an Amazing ft itself). Now I admit you can pull out the gn particles card on how they make a suit highly mobile and the use of trans am as well. But this is why I feel exia has the she over zero in atmosphere, as gn particles really show advantages over conventional suits and thrusters there
@@SeanyBoy589 I completely acknowledge wing zero's performance. But Exia is on a league of his own. The GN Particles' mass reduction effect also lightens the Gundam, and can be used to alter the mass ratio of various body parts. Due to this latter ability, it is possible to freely control the machine's inertia and turning capabilities when in the air, and for Active Mass Balance Auto-Control (AMBAC) when in space. (referenced from wikia and MG Exia manual). And the fight with Alvatore (/watch?v=P5mJA_UeSL4) completely had me convinced. Watch it from 1:50 onwards, I really don't think Wing Zero can come close to Exia's performance. Even if Zero System can 100% predict Exia's actions down to the minute detail, Wing Zero simply has no means of sufficient machine performance to carry out countermeasures. But that's just my opinion. You are entitled to have yours. It's just that I don't think there's a need to convince me otherwise. :)
I’m definitely on the side of 00 Gundams being stronger than Wing Gundams but I don’t see Exia beating Wing Zero and the Zero system. Exia struggled with suits far below Wing Zero’s level. I think that Exia vs Wing Zero is a tough fight for Zero but it edges out Exia on sheer durability, the Zero system and Heero. Hell, Heero I’m Wing Zero beats anything in Season 1 of 00 that doesn’t do Trans Am including GN Flag. You’re closer to being right than being wrong but you really downplayed Wing Zero. Wing Zero is outclassed by Exia in Speed while Exia trans ams but it is not outclassed to the point of being demolished within the time limit. Hell, we have seen Heero get outclassed in speed by a significant margin and hold out without the Zero system. Tall geese vs Heavyarms. Heero beats Exia with Wing Zero.
The 00 can teleport? Wtf?
yes he can
That's not the 00, it's the 00 Quanta from the movie that really should have just been a full season 3. But yes, it can do that. It's quantum teleportation.
GN particle son
@@heavyarms55 ahh explains it. I heard the movie was trash so I skipped it
@@jedispartancoolman who say this? The movie is good
Sad I was expecting els quanta
What a joke 😂
we all know this was the outcome
Nah, this is in Gundam Build Fighters. The real pilot's are not piloting them.
Plus if this was the original 00 Q fighting against Wing, Wing wouldn't stood a chance as 00Q's bits can shoot and has higher specs in terms of everything.
Sure, WZ has the Zero system, but QAN T has Trans Am. It would be like when Luffy fought Kaido for the first time in the manga.
Luffy foresaw Kaido hitting him, but he can't dodge it because it's just too fast.
The Flag Custom from Season 1 in 00 alone out accelerates Tallgeese.
@@dontuspowerus1093 dude, your argument is on repeat lmao. and besides, dont go all over the comment section using one piece as comparison. that anime is on another level. make your arguments better, dipshit.
@@natsbuenviaje2282 I used one piece as a comparison due to the similar situation on what would happen to their fight. No one's telling you to not use Einstein's equations because his brain is on another level, dumb ass.
Plus Wing Zero is not even an Interstellar suit.
Innovators can also read minds as confirmed by Shaman plus with the confirmation from The Innovades that they can control electronics with their mind using their quantum brainwaves. And their brains are literally on another level compared to superhuman brains.
Setsuna required alien history spanning over thousands or hundreds of thousands of years older than humanity itself to get knocked out of commission.
He even has all of his memories intact after a confirmed brain damage.
Innovators are literally capable of using the Zero system without worry.
ウイングゼロの勝ち？
作戦勝ちやな
対話しろよ
build divers is just stupid, the only good thing to come out of it are the new kits, and even that's arguable
Yes Build Divers is stupid. Re:Rise however is a hidden gem that's enjoyable.
Nah it's fine, generally re:rise the 4th one is a step up from the 3rd season.
idk bout u but i love it, it's basically my dream world in an anime. we don't talk about the first Build divers tho, treat it like the 3rd Shrek movie