I’ve just been switching up chargers for months and keeping track of how they do. I really have no idea how much time I actually put into it. Maybe I don’t want to know. Haha 😂
Thanks for taking the time to provide such great value! Just purchased the sony a7iii and was suprised it didnt come with a charger but this video helped me make a decision. Thanks!
Yeah, it definitely had a lot of character... but it also had a lot going on, and almost no space at all ;) I'll keep working on set design over here in the meantime. haha
Half is probably still too many. Haha. But hey, if I ever need to charge 13 Z batteries at once, I’m all set 😏 And yeah, the Nitecore is probably the winner. Just don’t totally trust the metrics it produces. They tend to be pretty erratic/unreliable (which is why I didn’t tout them as a major feature).
nice video, i want to point some fact about Nitecore charger i read the spec sheet and i own it, so if you put only a battery in charger it will charge it faster, quote: QC Mode: 1200mA*1(MAX), 800mA*2 (MAX)
My A7III came with a little charger with usb port on one end and mains port on the other, so plug mains in one side and usb C in the other to the camera, really small use it for travelling. For home I took your advice from a previous video and bought your "Old faithful" it sits on my desk and just gets used, and used, and used... Thnx for another great video !
I almost never charge the battery inside the camera. It just takes Forever. Didn’t even time it, but I’m pretty sure it’s in excess of 6 hours for a full charge. And I always like to have at least two batteries on me, if not for the length of the shoot, then just for redundancy, so chargers with 2 slots are a must 👌🏻
@@WesPerry Yeah, never really thought about the time involved in camera, as I say, I use it when on holiday etc, so just plug it in, go to sleep, wake up next morning (always find that a bonus) good to go.
Also, after my lightning strike debacle, I consider anything that’s presently plugged into the wall in any way to be potentially fried. So my cameras are never attached to a wall, and my drives/disks are only done so one at a time.
@@WesPerry Do you not have surge protectors in Canada ? Have to admit I laughed at the lightning vid. Got to admit you've got a warped but dry sense of humour !!! Call me a lazy "B' if you want, I never unplug anything, imac, (that runs 24/7) wd my cloud, three wd my book hdd's always plugged in ! And Sony charger plugged in to camera only on Holiday, I'm a fair weather man, it isn't allowed to rain when I go away... so that's good...
Norman Pimlott as I discovered in that video, regular surge protectors do absolutely nothing in the case of a lightning strike, and very special (and somewhat expensive) hardware has to be wired right into the electrical entrance if you want any chance of stopping lightning (and even then it’s definitely not 100%).
Thanks for the great information on this video Wes! Have you tested how long does the nitecore take to charge just one battery compared to the orignal sony one? Thanks!!!
I didn’t measure the time, but I did measure the charge draw, and it’s only 6.6% less (14W vs 15W). So overall it would likely only be about 3-5 minutes longer. Very small difference.
Wes another great video, so I have a Watson charger that is like your AC dual charger but my Watson only has 2 prongs not all three, (which is the middle one) what does that middle prong do, am I missing out on anything?
The third prong is only for carrying data from the chip inside the battery to the camera. For a charger it’s not really necessary. In theory the battery chip could be decoded by the charger and show a super precise charge level (% like the camera does), but no one does this.
If you plugged a battery into the camera that only had the two prongs (which some super cheap aftermarket batteries do), the camera would show an error, and warn you that the battery is not to be trusted.
For me the best is LED version, so I can see wheter my batteries already full or not from distance. While LCD version needs me to see the screen to know if it's fully charged
The small LCD version will cycle the lights. For mine, I just have over to see if it's still flashing slowly. All of the lights are solid once fully charged.
Did you test how long it takes to charge in camera using micro usb v usb c both with/without quick charge? Be interesting to see how long it takes relative to the others...
@@WesPerry haha - main reason I ask is that I typically charge up during wedding breakfast over here (2 hours+ typically) so it means I don't have to ever switch batteries on a typical shooting day and get to use someone else's electric :D
@@WesPerry only other one I've see lots of people buy(mainly because of the aesthetics I think is the hahnel procube-2) it has some limited options to change plates (though i don't see fw50 or led/camcorder plates sadly).
Greg Thurtle yeah people keep telling me about the hahnel, but it’s super hard to get in Canada for less than $100 or so. Which totally isn’t worth it.
Some say that using a third party charger with no center pin may affect battery life, but I’ve seen no evidence of this (could be true, though). But fast charging will Definitely impact battery life over time. Which is why my current favorite is the ISDT NP2 Air, as it has the third pin, and you can choose slow or fast charging.
Hey. I have a Nitecore USN4 Pro like yours. I couldn't get it to quickcharge, but after looking at your video I bought the same adapter you did. I hooked it up and it's still not quickcharging and is only charging one battery at a time. What's going on? Is it because I'm using the cable that came with the charger?
I tried to look at the manual to see what is going wrong, but it's just a blank document on Nitecore's website. This sucks ass waiting this long for a battery to charge.
That’s odd. It won’t quickcharge when on a Normal charger, and just do one at a time. You’re sure it’s exactly the same one as mine? I assume you’ve tried unplugging and plugging it back in? The cable I’m using is the one that came with it, so that shouldn’t be the problem...
@@WesPerry I got it to quickcharge on another charger I had laying around. I bought that charger through your link, but evidently they sent me the wrong charger because it looks the same, but IS a different model than yours. Unfortunately I've had it long enough that it's too late to send it back.
Hmm. It looks like the one in my link has been discontinued, and they probably shipped an alternative instead. I’ll have to find a good replacement and swap out the link.
Usb quick chargers use negotiated voltages. If the device only wants 5V, it’ll only provide 5V. That being said, the Dash Charger uses a non-standard implementation, so I wouldn’t be 100% sure if it not doing something tricky. Only about 99% sure.
There only seems to be one variety sold under a number of different brand names. They’re all pretty slow. I don’t generally use those, though, as it’s difficult to charge multiple batteries at once with them (I’m usually charging 5-8 FZ100 batteries in preparation for a wedding).
ive gor Rav power one... yes it takes a long time to charge but I must say im impressed with the batteries it came with.. would love to see a test or review of 3rd part batteries agianst the Sony one
@@WesPerry Ive used mine a couple of times.. maybe I'll keep them as emergency spares & not actually use them if they wear out after a while ..thanks & look fwd to yuor review
I think they all do. They completely shut down and stop drawing current when they feel the charging is complete. They’ll actually remain entirely inert from that point on. Even if the battery were to slowly dip down to a lower voltage after this point, it won’t start up again. It needs to be removed and reattached to resume charging. The Notecore chargers are especially finicky about this and sometimes need to be entirely unplugged and plugged back in before they’ll charge another battery (only sometimes, though). But I guess better safe than sorry?
That being said, each one seems to have a slightly different interpretation for what is fully charged. The Sony charger fills the batteries the fullest, while the dual ac charger in second place, and the others just barely hit 100% before shutting down (when you put the battery in your camera, especially if it’s an older battery, it will quickly dip to 98-99% when in use).
I've used same AC powered LCD charger since still using FW50 too.. because, i also like to know more of the battery level instead just single LED. Same story goes when i switch to Z batteries. but, for travel, i use the Wasabi dual charger (similar with the Newmowa) due to size, and i usually charge it overnight, so 4 hours charging time doesn't really matter. and Z batteries are so good, that i find hard time to finish the whole battery in a day in my travel photography
@@WesPerry hehe well i didn't go Sony because it's cheap 😄 not sure it is better than the one you tried, but it is good looking imo, comes with a car adapter, and can also charge USB devices and AA batteries. And charges 2 batteries simultaneously.
I’ve seen a lot of comments on cheap chargers saying they don’t charge to 100%, but not once did I see that with any of these chargers, so I’m not sure where that issue is coming from.
@@WesPerry I picked one up from eBay for $79 delivered. Sealed. I thought it was an absolute bargain considering it came with four Z batteries! We both know those Sony batteries aren't cheap. (2 in the box, additional 2 supplied by the seller)
@@WesPerry When you factor in what comes in the box, the package isn't that expensive even when purchased new. As a bonus, the main unit works as a multi-battery power supply via a W/Z dummy battery, powering the camera for long outdoor shooting. It also allows you to swap out flat batteries on-the-fly. UK had them listed for £380.00. Individual batteries sell for £80~110 each, price vary between authorized and 3rd party dealers.
Does this happen with any other lenses? I have to ask if this is adapted, and if your lens/adapter have the latest firmware update installed (as well as the camera). Sony sensors only have vertical phase detect autofocus points, so they're great at detecting vertical lines of differentiation, but not great at horizontal ones, so I've seen this behaviour before, although it's not entirely obvious why it would be happening in this case...usually you can tell that the subject has an obvious orientation that it would prefer when this happens, and then it falls back to contrast detect autofocus (the big box instead of the "dancing ants", as some call them, for phase detect AF).
@@WesPerry thanks for checking Wes! So I checked with other lenses and it did the same thing. Then I checked if it has to do something with putting the camera in portrait mode and then I found out that you can change the focus area solely for portrait mode. And here it was set to center focus. Apparently once you put your camera in portrait mode you can change the focus area for portrait mode only. Didn't know that at all!
@@GaryJahman I knew that was an option (that I've never used, because I thought it would be confusing), but figured that you would have been aware of it if you had manually activated that setting yourself. Oh well 😉 lol
I was using 3rd party batteries for several months now and got the warning and was allowed to continue to use them, but since yesterday with out doing any firmware updates, the camera says I cannot use the battery and then shuts down…? WTF. I should be able to risk breaking my camera or not. But now they are not working at all. Anybody else have this problem…??
Yep. This seems to happen when the third party battery gets older and doesn’t provide sufficient voltage for the cameras to be really sure of it anymore. When the Sony batteries are running a lower voltage, they have a communications and diagnostic chip inside the battery to convey the actual battery charge level and capacity to the camera. The third party batteries have no such information for the camera, so when it can’t easily confirm it’s going to work well, it will give a warning, when it looks like it’s not going to work well at all, it just shuts down to prevent corrupting your memory card in the case of a power failure during a write operation.
Great VDO but you should have cleared the amp of the chargers, mine don't take 2 hrs to charge 2 batteries. AC chargers are not for travelers in my opinion and with 2 Amp and above can charge batteries pretty fast coz those USB chargers are dumb and they depends on the charger AMP to charge the batteries. Well I may be wrong but should have tried with different chargers like quick charge. Great Effort BTW and keep up.
I measured amperage And wattage in my tests, but only talked about wattage in the video, as only one is really needed, and when one of them is powered from 120Vac, and another 8.4V quick charge, current isn’t a good metric to use, but wattage equalizes the results, as it accounts for both current And voltage. And I agree the AC charger isn’t that great for travel. I did say it was too big for that, and that the smaller USB chargers were a better idea.
Additionally, I used a 2.4A/12W charger in my tests (iPad Pro 2nd gen) to see how much current each would draw at the standard usb 5V output. Only one (Nitecore) drew all 12W/2.4A, and that’s only with two batteries installed. The rest limited themselves to 10W/2A regardles. Similarly, the rest would only reach their max draw with two batteries installed, and even then the RAVPower only drew 1.8A/8W. Wouldn’t even take all it was given.
@@WesPerry Yes, I travel with usb charger and powerbank. Recently just bought a charger that can charge all sony camera battery but not L and BP series. I just opend it because your VDO remind me of the Charger I have bought and looked it out. Not tested yet but here is the link its quite interesting charger. www.amazon.com/ISDT-Batteries-Cyber-Shot-DSC-RX100-DSC-RX100M/dp/B07K1VJD85/ref=sr_1_58?keywords=dual+battery+charger+for+sony&qid=1568057966&s=gateway&sr=8-58 I thought it will be best for those who use sony a6 and a7 series of camera at same time.
Looks pretty good, and an obvious better choice if you have multiple battery types on hand to charge. Appears to charge at the same rate as the Sony and Nitecore chargers. I haven’t tested it, though, so can’t necessarily recommend it ;)
@@WesPerry thank you! That one and the ravpower are the ones available in my country, that's why I asked :) because of your video, I'm leaning on staying away from the ravpower. Haha!
You asked what else to test. When do you expect to lay hands on an a9ii, expound on its features and performance? If you’re one of the first it’s a lot less work to get to 10k. 🤑🤑
Unfortunately it’s probably going to be a while just yet 😭 I’m pretty low on the Sony loaners list, and they generally take a while to get into Canada as it is. But we’ll see! 😉
I have a new favourite charger for 2021/2022: ua-cam.com/video/JvZ9FVSHYSk/v-deo.html (but unfortunately they're really hard to get ahold of right now)
Yeah, they’re about to release a new model, so they stopped manufacturing the old one (a bit prematurely, as it’s been out of stock for months now 🤦🏻♂️)
@@WesPerry that's a shame and rather unfortunate... hopefully it'll really be soon though. Their charger is insanely convenient for someone who shoots with sony batts. Now if only they replace BX1 with an NPF charging slot, we'd really have a winner on our hands.
Yep! I'll actually be releasing a video about that charger soon ;) You just need one that's rate for Quick Charge. USB-PD or Power Delivery does nothing for this charger. Super annoying that those are two entirely different and incompatible standards.
Years have passed and this is now my favourite charger: ua-cam.com/video/Q5KRbldmIUs/v-deo.html
Can’t believe I’m watching a video on chargers at 2am.... nevertheless very informative video!
I can’t believe it’s 2am where you are.
Seriously, I don’t believe in time zones. Total fake news.
(Kidding...what is this, Camera Conspiracies? 😂)
I am currently watching this at 4am
I am currently reading this at 6:20am
1:42am.
1:24
I can't imagine how long this experiment took you! Thank you for the hard work and all the time and money you spent for us :)
I’ve just been switching up chargers for months and keeping track of how they do. I really have no idea how much time I actually put into it. Maybe I don’t want to know. Haha 😂
@Phil Jones65 Sighhhhhh 😒😏
Thanks for taking the time to provide such great value! Just purchased the sony a7iii and was suprised it didnt come with a charger but this video helped me make a decision. Thanks!
Landed here from your recent Sony charger test. Thanks for all your effort! But: I still miss your kitchen studio ;-)
Yeah, it definitely had a lot of character... but it also had a lot going on, and almost no space at all ;) I'll keep working on set design over here in the meantime. haha
Extremely useful. Exactly what I was looking for!
I didn’t include the Sony multi charger because it’s Way too expensive compared to all these others.
Thank you for taking the time to make this very extensive and informative video. Very helpful!
Very nice, very clear picture, what are you using to film with?
This one was a Sony a9 with the 35 1.4 Sony Zeiss
Appreciate all your help Just bought the A6600 I like the idea of the fastest charger on the Sony single
Very well done professional review. Really like your presentation. The background (music?) is distracting. Still a thumbs up.
Great video! Can you please provide a link to the sleds if possible?
I’m afraid not. I’ve only been able to find them on eBay, where they just appear randomly from time to time. Perhaps I should be checking aliexpress…
Thank you. I had always been using 3p lcd charge indicator based dual flat chargers. But planning to get another and eyeing the Nitecore.
Amazing amazing comparison! love the quality of the video too!
Hey west what camera & lens you recording ??????wow so clean smooth and sharp 👊👍☝️👊
Sony a9 with the Zeiss 35 1.4 at f/1.6 👌🏻
Also clean and smooth because I shoot at 60p. I’m not a huge fan of the choppy look of 24p. I’m not making cinema here.
Wes Perry awesome Brother keep up the good work 👊
Much thanks for going totally OCD on this for the rest of us :D
Thanks for the time and effort you put in.
I have half of the devices you've shown and the Nicore my newest charger and its been wonderful.
Half is probably still too many. Haha. But hey, if I ever need to charge 13 Z batteries at once, I’m all set 😏
And yeah, the Nitecore is probably the winner. Just don’t totally trust the metrics it produces. They tend to be pretty erratic/unreliable (which is why I didn’t tout them as a major feature).
nice video, i want to point some fact about Nitecore charger i read the spec sheet and i own it, so if you put only a battery in charger it will charge it faster, quote: QC Mode: 1200mA*1(MAX), 800mA*2 (MAX)
My A7III came with a little charger with usb port on one end and mains port on the other, so plug mains in one side and usb C in the other to the camera, really small use it for travelling. For home I took your advice from a previous video and bought your "Old faithful" it sits on my desk and just gets used, and used, and used... Thnx for another great video !
I almost never charge the battery inside the camera. It just takes Forever. Didn’t even time it, but I’m pretty sure it’s in excess of 6 hours for a full charge. And I always like to have at least two batteries on me, if not for the length of the shoot, then just for redundancy, so chargers with 2 slots are a must 👌🏻
@@WesPerry Yeah, never really thought about the time involved in camera, as I say, I use it when on holiday etc, so just plug it in, go to sleep, wake up next morning (always find that a bonus) good to go.
Also, after my lightning strike debacle, I consider anything that’s presently plugged into the wall in any way to be potentially fried. So my cameras are never attached to a wall, and my drives/disks are only done so one at a time.
@@WesPerry Do you not have surge protectors in Canada ?
Have to admit I laughed at the lightning vid. Got to admit you've got a warped but dry sense of humour !!!
Call me a lazy "B' if you want, I never unplug anything, imac, (that runs 24/7) wd my cloud, three wd my book hdd's always plugged in ! And Sony charger plugged in to camera only on Holiday, I'm a fair weather man, it isn't allowed to rain when I go away... so that's good...
Norman Pimlott as I discovered in that video, regular surge protectors do absolutely nothing in the case of a lightning strike, and very special (and somewhat expensive) hardware has to be wired right into the electrical entrance if you want any chance of stopping lightning (and even then it’s definitely not 100%).
hello sir, I want to ask, if this charger is used to charge the original battery, is it safe? does not make the original battery become damaged?
It is safe yes
Although it is no longer my top recommended charger, or the safest. Check out my latest videos in the description for that.
@@WesPerry ok thankyou sir
Thanks for the great information on this video Wes! Have you tested how long does the nitecore take to charge just one battery compared to the orignal sony one? Thanks!!!
I didn’t measure the time, but I did measure the charge draw, and it’s only 6.6% less (14W vs 15W). So overall it would likely only be about 3-5 minutes longer. Very small difference.
I did quite a bit of testing that wasn’t in this video, as I didn’t want it to be 20 minutes long 😏
@@WesPerry Amazing!!!! Thanks for the quick answer. Really valuable information!!!
Super helpful info!!! Thank you!
Thanks for the video! You saved me a lot of time ;)
Thanks you so much, that was hell of a work. :D
Wes another great video, so I have a Watson charger that is like your AC dual charger but my Watson only has 2 prongs not all three, (which is the middle one) what does that middle prong do, am I missing out on anything?
The third prong is only for carrying data from the chip inside the battery to the camera. For a charger it’s not really necessary. In theory the battery chip could be decoded by the charger and show a super precise charge level (% like the camera does), but no one does this.
If you plugged a battery into the camera that only had the two prongs (which some super cheap aftermarket batteries do), the camera would show an error, and warn you that the battery is not to be trusted.
Nice video and great energy! Thank you!
Don’t forget to check out the update(s) in the description!
Chef John here from Foodwishes.com wiiiiith, Sony battery chargers! ;)
You are, after all, the Ru Paul of your Charger Wall.
thanks for making this video
Very informative, thanks for the comparison!
Commenting on your own video and self?
For me the best is LED version, so I can see wheter my batteries already full or not from distance. While LCD version needs me to see the screen to know if it's fully charged
The small LCD version will cycle the lights. For mine, I just have over to see if it's still flashing slowly. All of the lights are solid once fully charged.
Hi, what camera did you use to record this video?
This one was probably shot on an a9
@@WesPerry thanks, it's so smooth
I like to shoot in 60p when possible
@@WesPerry no, it's great to shoot in this mode
@@WesPerry Can you tell me, is there such a smooth recording mode on the Sony a7iv camera?
Did you test how long it takes to charge in camera using micro usb v usb c both with/without quick charge?
Be interesting to see how long it takes relative to the others...
A LOT longer. I’ll test it sometime, but any time I decided to do so, I gave up and went to bed. It’s well over 4 hours.
@@WesPerry haha - main reason I ask is that I typically charge up during wedding breakfast over here (2 hours+ typically) so it means I don't have to ever switch batteries on a typical shooting day and get to use someone else's electric :D
@@WesPerry only other one I've see lots of people buy(mainly because of the aesthetics I think is the hahnel procube-2) it has some limited options to change plates (though i don't see fw50 or led/camcorder plates sadly).
Greg Thurtle yeah people keep telling me about the hahnel, but it’s super hard to get in Canada for less than $100 or so. Which totally isn’t worth it.
@@WesPerry it's about £70 here which given the dual plate charger is £20 isn't worth it... But hey its orange 😂😂😂
i've a "patona clone" of the single lcd charger...it's works, but sometime the indicator fails...but it's ok :D
what about battery life when using a third party for sony, or maybe charger with FAST CHARGING
Some say that using a third party charger with no center pin may affect battery life, but I’ve seen no evidence of this (could be true, though).
But fast charging will Definitely impact battery life over time. Which is why my current favorite is the ISDT NP2 Air, as it has the third pin, and you can choose slow or fast charging.
@@WesPerry thank you! Love your channel ❤️👍🤴
Hey. I have a Nitecore USN4 Pro like yours. I couldn't get it to quickcharge, but after looking at your video I bought the same adapter you did. I hooked it up and it's still not quickcharging and is only charging one battery at a time. What's going on? Is it because I'm using the cable that came with the charger?
I tried to look at the manual to see what is going wrong, but it's just a blank document on Nitecore's website. This sucks ass waiting this long for a battery to charge.
That’s odd. It won’t quickcharge when on a Normal charger, and just do one at a time. You’re sure it’s exactly the same one as mine?
I assume you’ve tried unplugging and plugging it back in? The cable I’m using is the one that came with it, so that shouldn’t be the problem...
If all that fails to work, I’m pretty sure that Nitecore does have customer support, unlike most of these manufacturers.
@@WesPerry I got it to quickcharge on another charger I had laying around. I bought that charger through your link, but evidently they sent me the wrong charger because it looks the same, but IS a different model than yours. Unfortunately I've had it long enough that it's too late to send it back.
Hmm. It looks like the one in my link has been discontinued, and they probably shipped an alternative instead. I’ll have to find a good replacement and swap out the link.
Is there any problem to charge it with the iPad Pro charger via usbC?
None of the Godox flashes can charge their batteries internally, if that’s what you mean.
Could you test the expensive Sony charger that holds 4 "Z" batteries?
I would really rather not pay for it 😂
It’s $633 where I live!! 😑
Thank you for your effort!
Would love to know if you can charge in camera using a OnePlus dash charger. I'm sure it'll not fast charge but kinda hoping it won't kill the camera
Usb quick chargers use negotiated voltages. If the device only wants 5V, it’ll only provide 5V.
That being said, the Dash Charger uses a non-standard implementation, so I wouldn’t be 100% sure if it not doing something tricky. Only about 99% sure.
@@WesPerry thanks a ton, was looking all over the net but seems no one has tried it. And i definitely did not want to risk it with my main camera
Where can i find the fz-100 sleds ???? you never mentioned that and i can't find them anywhere...
I bought all mine on eBay for about $5 each.
@@WesPerry what search term did you used on eBay? I can’t find them. This would be a perfect solution for me. Thanks in advance
I can’t seem to find any right now either. Seems like they’ve dried up for now 🤷🏻♂️
Do you have a recommendation for a wall plug charger (not with a cord)?
There only seems to be one variety sold under a number of different brand names. They’re all pretty slow. I don’t generally use those, though, as it’s difficult to charge multiple batteries at once with them (I’m usually charging 5-8 FZ100 batteries in preparation for a wedding).
Question.a7iii batteries same like a7iv?
Thanks
Yep
They just don’t last as long in the a7iv
@@WesPerry thanks
The RAVPower "Quickcharger 18W max" is broken.
ive gor Rav power one... yes it takes a long time to charge but I must say im impressed with the batteries it came with.. would love to see a test or review of 3rd part batteries agianst the Sony one
Working on it right now.
And unfortunately now that they’re about 10 cycles in, they’re not doing great 🤷🏻♂️
@@WesPerry Ive used mine a couple of times.. maybe I'll keep them as emergency spares & not actually use them if they wear out after a while ..thanks & look fwd to yuor review
I wonder if some of the chargers got any protection against overcharging?
I think they all do. They completely shut down and stop drawing current when they feel the charging is complete. They’ll actually remain entirely inert from that point on. Even if the battery were to slowly dip down to a lower voltage after this point, it won’t start up again. It needs to be removed and reattached to resume charging. The Notecore chargers are especially finicky about this and sometimes need to be entirely unplugged and plugged back in before they’ll charge another battery (only sometimes, though). But I guess better safe than sorry?
That being said, each one seems to have a slightly different interpretation for what is fully charged. The Sony charger fills the batteries the fullest, while the dual ac charger in second place, and the others just barely hit 100% before shutting down (when you put the battery in your camera, especially if it’s an older battery, it will quickly dip to 98-99% when in use).
@@WesPerry Thank you very much! 🙂
I've used same AC powered LCD charger since still using FW50 too.. because, i also like to know more of the battery level instead just single LED.
Same story goes when i switch to Z batteries.
but, for travel, i use the Wasabi dual charger (similar with the Newmowa) due to size, and i usually charge it overnight, so 4 hours charging time doesn't really matter. and Z batteries are so good, that i find hard time to finish the whole battery in a day in my travel photography
super useful wes thank you!
Happy to hear it, Greg!
Hähnel ProCube 2 is a nice alternative.
Expensive! And also totally doesn’t seem to be available in Canada. What’s the advantage?
@@WesPerry hehe well i didn't go Sony because it's cheap 😄 not sure it is better than the one you tried, but it is good looking imo, comes with a car adapter, and can also charge USB devices and AA batteries. And charges 2 batteries simultaneously.
It charges AA batteries, too?? Now that’s unusual.
Just what i wanted to know. Sony Battery and chargers are so expensive!!! Thank You
Glad to help!
I have a Wasabi and Kastar dual chargers and both charge to a 100%, pretty happy with them :)
I’ve seen a lot of comments on cheap chargers saying they don’t charge to 100%, but not once did I see that with any of these chargers, so I’m not sure where that issue is coming from.
Can the Sony cameras be charged wirelessly?
Nope. I don’t think anyone’s doing that just yet.
@@WesPerry Thanks.
any leads on a 4 bay charger the Andoer NP-FZ100 4-Channel LCD Camera Battery perhaps?
I haven’t seen one other than the super expensive Sony model. Using two chargers at once is inconvenient?
Appreciate you!! Thanks a bunch!! :-)
And I appreciate You! Thanks!
With USB powered it can be chargered on car or even with powerbank
Yep, all the usb powered ones are good for that.
You Missed one... The Sony NPA-MQZ1K. It charges four batteries.
I may or may not have mentioned, I don’t include it because the price is just Way out of the realm of comparison
@@WesPerry I picked one up from eBay for $79 delivered. Sealed. I thought it was an absolute bargain considering it came with four Z batteries! We both know those Sony batteries aren't cheap. (2 in the box, additional 2 supplied by the seller)
Uhhh that’s kinda crazy. Just the batteries alone would be $550 where I am.
@@WesPerry When you factor in what comes in the box, the package isn't that expensive even when purchased new. As a bonus, the main unit works as a multi-battery power supply via a W/Z dummy battery, powering the camera for long outdoor shooting. It also allows you to swap out flat batteries on-the-fly. UK had them listed for £380.00. Individual batteries sell for £80~110 each, price vary between authorized and 3rd party dealers.
But also, make sure to watch my follow up video linked in the description ;)
But also also, I’ll have another one coming in a few weeks. Haha
Have great experience with Nightcore. Use them to charge my 21700, 18650, AA, etc
Good, because I have Two more Nitecore videos coming soon ;)
Hi Wes, care to check my latest video with a weird issue I have with Sigma art lens on my Sony A7III. Any idea what's wrong?
Does this happen with any other lenses? I have to ask if this is adapted, and if your lens/adapter have the latest firmware update installed (as well as the camera). Sony sensors only have vertical phase detect autofocus points, so they're great at detecting vertical lines of differentiation, but not great at horizontal ones, so I've seen this behaviour before, although it's not entirely obvious why it would be happening in this case...usually you can tell that the subject has an obvious orientation that it would prefer when this happens, and then it falls back to contrast detect autofocus (the big box instead of the "dancing ants", as some call them, for phase detect AF).
@@WesPerry thanks for checking Wes! So I checked with other lenses and it did the same thing.
Then I checked if it has to do something with putting the camera in portrait mode and then I found out that you can change the focus area solely for portrait mode. And here it was set to center focus.
Apparently once you put your camera in portrait mode you can change the focus area for portrait mode only.
Didn't know that at all!
@@GaryJahman I knew that was an option (that I've never used, because I thought it would be confusing), but figured that you would have been aware of it if you had manually activated that setting yourself. Oh well 😉 lol
I was using 3rd party batteries for several months now and got the warning and was allowed to continue to use them, but since yesterday with out doing any firmware updates, the camera says I cannot use the battery and then shuts down…? WTF. I should be able to risk breaking my camera or not. But now they are not working at all. Anybody else have this problem…??
Yep. This seems to happen when the third party battery gets older and doesn’t provide sufficient voltage for the cameras to be really sure of it anymore. When the Sony batteries are running a lower voltage, they have a communications and diagnostic chip inside the battery to convey the actual battery charge level and capacity to the camera. The third party batteries have no such information for the camera, so when it can’t easily confirm it’s going to work well, it will give a warning, when it looks like it’s not going to work well at all, it just shuts down to prevent corrupting your memory card in the case of a power failure during a write operation.
Great VDO but you should have cleared the amp of the chargers, mine don't take 2 hrs to charge 2 batteries. AC chargers are not for travelers in my opinion and with 2 Amp and above can charge batteries pretty fast coz those USB chargers are dumb and they depends on the charger AMP to charge the batteries. Well I may be wrong but should have tried with different chargers like quick charge. Great Effort BTW and keep up.
I measured amperage And wattage in my tests, but only talked about wattage in the video, as only one is really needed, and when one of them is powered from 120Vac, and another 8.4V quick charge, current isn’t a good metric to use, but wattage equalizes the results, as it accounts for both current And voltage.
And I agree the AC charger isn’t that great for travel. I did say it was too big for that, and that the smaller USB chargers were a better idea.
Additionally, I used a 2.4A/12W charger in my tests (iPad Pro 2nd gen) to see how much current each would draw at the standard usb 5V output. Only one (Nitecore) drew all 12W/2.4A, and that’s only with two batteries installed. The rest limited themselves to 10W/2A regardles.
Similarly, the rest would only reach their max draw with two batteries installed, and even then the RAVPower only drew 1.8A/8W. Wouldn’t even take all it was given.
@@WesPerry Yes, I travel with usb charger and powerbank. Recently just bought a charger that can charge all sony camera battery but not L and BP series. I just opend it because your VDO remind me of the Charger I have bought and looked it out. Not tested yet but here is the link its quite interesting charger.
www.amazon.com/ISDT-Batteries-Cyber-Shot-DSC-RX100-DSC-RX100M/dp/B07K1VJD85/ref=sr_1_58?keywords=dual+battery+charger+for+sony&qid=1568057966&s=gateway&sr=8-58
I thought it will be best for those who use sony a6 and a7 series of camera at same time.
Can I use a 3A chager on nitcore?
3a and what voltage? It requires the 9V output by Quickcharge chargers to be able to charge two batteries at once.
@@WesPerry 36W 2 usb vs 3A
@@MrJoaoAfonso again, it’s not about the current, or even the wattage. It needs to specifically be quickcharge rated.
@@WesPerry oh ok tks a lot!!
You forgot one charger, charge the battery in the camera.
Nah. Too slow.
@@WesPerry i think thats what's most people will end up using since a charger is not included and its the laziest way if you have only one battery
Hi! Nitecore vs the 1SDT NP2 (18W) Smart Charger. What are your thoughts? :)
Looks pretty good, and an obvious better choice if you have multiple battery types on hand to charge. Appears to charge at the same rate as the Sony and Nitecore chargers. I haven’t tested it, though, so can’t necessarily recommend it ;)
@@WesPerry thank you! That one and the ravpower are the ones available in my country, that's why I asked :) because of your video, I'm leaning on staying away from the ravpower. Haha!
You asked what else to test. When do you expect to lay hands on an a9ii, expound on its features and performance? If you’re one of the first it’s a lot less work to get to 10k. 🤑🤑
Unfortunately it’s probably going to be a while just yet 😭
I’m pretty low on the Sony loaners list, and they generally take a while to get into Canada as it is.
But we’ll see! 😉
I have a new favourite charger for 2021/2022: ua-cam.com/video/JvZ9FVSHYSk/v-deo.html (but unfortunately they're really hard to get ahold of right now)
Are they discontinued? doesn't seem to be available anywhere at the moment.
Yeah, they’re about to release a new model, so they stopped manufacturing the old one (a bit prematurely, as it’s been out of stock for months now 🤦🏻♂️)
@@WesPerry do you happen to know when the new one will come out?
@@DannyTran_infms I’ve been in touch with the company and the best they’ll give me is “soon”. Which… yeah, not terribly helpful 😒
@@WesPerry that's a shame and rather unfortunate... hopefully it'll really be soon though. Their charger is insanely convenient for someone who shoots with sony batts. Now if only they replace BX1 with an NPF charging slot, we'd really have a winner on our hands.
What a shame! Amazon does not deliver this type of electronics to my country. Crap
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Thanks Wes for you undoubtedly long and BORING testing. Great job....
One of a few minor videos that I spent Way too much time on. 😏
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Hey Wes, will this - amzn.to/3iEQNth - work with this - amzn.to/34B31xZ Thank you in advance!
Yep! I'll actually be releasing a video about that charger soon ;)
You just need one that's rate for Quick Charge. USB-PD or Power Delivery does nothing for this charger. Super annoying that those are two entirely different and incompatible standards.
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Great informative video. Appreciate it.