Focal Bathys Review | Audiophile Wireless Headphones

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  • Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
  • Bathys is Focal’s first high-end wireless headphone, hoping to deliver on Focal’s pedigree. But while we have no doubt Focal can create a beautiful, comfortable wireless headphone - can it have the same level of sound quality as its previous closed back headphones?
    0:00 Intro
    1:12 Build, Design, and Features
    5:10 Sound Impressions
    9:49 Final Thoughts
    Check out the Focal Bathys: bloomaudio.com/products/focal...
    Read our written review: bloomaudio.com/articles/focal...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 148

  • @jamesbittle469
    @jamesbittle469 Рік тому +12

    The absence of LDAC is disappointing. At this price, the headphones should support all available codecs.

  • @KristianDowling
    @KristianDowling Рік тому

    Great review especially last line about made better by the wireless functionality

  • @markpomerhn76
    @markpomerhn76 Рік тому

    Nice Review!

  • @revelationsoundstudio
    @revelationsoundstudio Рік тому

    Very good review. I wonder though how the Bowers and Wilkins headphones PX8 compare which are a little cheaper?

  • @kanz7329
    @kanz7329 Рік тому +10

    I now own the Bathys, previously owned the OG clears, Clear MG pros, Elegias. The Bathys have the same sound signature as other focals but slightly falls on the V shaped side of tunings. I do enjoy this signature though with my music library, the app/EQ works well and doesnt downgrade the sound, the comfort is not the greatest, they do not feel premium for the price and fit will depend on your ears and headshape. on USB mode the details are better and bass feels more tighter as well and treble more airy. overall they are the best BT headphone but if I were using them only for home use I would add another 100 and get the OG clears . better dynamics, punch and details

    • @mhortop1
      @mhortop1 Рік тому +4

      The HiFiMan Ananda BT has better sound quality as it is a big planar open back Bluetooth headphone but of course doesn’t have ANC noise cancellation. These are still nice though much better than Apple AirPods Pro! I still prefer my H95’s though and they look better too.

    • @Andyhandle
      @Andyhandle Рік тому

      What would you say are the biggest differences between the Elegia's and the Bathys? (apart from wired /wireless). I'm using an A&K se180, with uncompressed audio (mostly).

    • @kanz7329
      @kanz7329 Рік тому +2

      @@Andyhandle The Elegias needed a bit more EQ correction in the bass and lower treble regions. I used Resolves EQ for them and got them to sound good. otherwise the Bathys do not need EQ correction, wireless with the app I bump 1K by 3db. The Elegias are comfortable like the other Focals , Bathys are smaller in pad dimensions. The Elegias also sound a bit hollow or weird on the first listen coming from other harman tuned headphones .

    • @Andyhandle
      @Andyhandle Рік тому

      @@kanz7329 thanks for the reply, very much appreciated.
      Some time ago I tried some Focal Utopias and was amazed by the sound and found them very comfortable. Ever since, I've thought about getting some Focals. I've got some aging Audeze LCD2 headphones (very heavy and it's always felt like there was something missing for what I like, espcially in the mids and a bit of energy, though I haven't tried to EQ them. Apart from that I've focussed more on iems with some very old Shure 846s, some newer Sennheiser ie600s. But headphones just have some wireless ones.

    • @morespinach9832
      @morespinach9832 Рік тому

      Excellent summary view.

  • @Armbrust210
    @Armbrust210 Рік тому +14

    Was looking forward to reviews just to hear the interpreted pronounciation of these. And this is amazing. They should've made them water resistant you could actually use them while taking a bath

    • @Andyhandle
      @Andyhandle Рік тому

      I do use my phone I the bath with external speakers or waterproof Sony speakers. But it would have been great 🛀

  • @pa1nk1ller14
    @pa1nk1ller14 Рік тому

    is it possible to completely turn off ANC?

  • @alexponomarenko7800
    @alexponomarenko7800 Рік тому

    How do these compare to the B&O H95?

  • @nickdual
    @nickdual Рік тому

    Awesome!

  • @brothatwasepic
    @brothatwasepic Рік тому +12

    I love focal and really wish they went for LDAC and Aptx Lossless specifically even if it is an add-on cost option for the buyer to license. The buyer should at least have the option imo

    • @junkuqi7948
      @junkuqi7948 Рік тому

      I bilieve this can be integrated in future firmwawre updates?

    • @brothatwasepic
      @brothatwasepic Рік тому

      @@junkuqi7948 I hope so. Sennheiser recently made the same choice to not support both

    • @allansh828
      @allansh828 Рік тому

      just use a USB cable.

    • @harackmw
      @harackmw Рік тому +5

      If my Anker 120$ headphone can afford the LDAC license then I am sure Focal could with a 799$ price tag.

    • @mattriarchal
      @mattriarchal Рік тому

      Wait did i hear this right? This thing only goes up to aptx adaptive???

  • @gdemirjian
    @gdemirjian Рік тому

    Have you heard the Drop Panda wireless?

  • @Andyhandle
    @Andyhandle Рік тому

    Nice review.
    How do you feel these compare to the wireless headphones Apple Max and the planar Edifier stax Spirit s3 (I have these and they sound ok but the app is appalling, buttons a pain and call quality only really for indoors but they are foldable and also run wired).

    • @BloomAudio
      @BloomAudio  Рік тому +1

      I haven't heard the S3, but compared to the AirPod Max, the Bathys presents more detail and stronger definition, and outside of some of the gimmicks on the AirPods Max, Bathys has better imaging and a larger soundstage.

    • @Andyhandle
      @Andyhandle Рік тому

      @@BloomAudio thanks for the reply.
      I was tempted by some Focal Elegia's (wired), tried them and liked them but ended up, for other reasons with ie600 iems.
      Is there a very noticeable difference between the Bathys and the Elegia's? (I was surprised that the Edifiers wireless aren't a million miles away from using them wired, though there are differences but wireless is so convenient.
      Aptx lossless is starting to emerge, it'll be interesting to hear what differences that brings to wireless headphones.

  • @stuartnelson2948
    @stuartnelson2948 Рік тому

    Can you plug them directly into an iPhone using DAC mode via the USB. If so, what apps/services support hi-res output

    • @BloomAudio
      @BloomAudio  Рік тому

      For iPhone you may need a separate OTG cable, since the cable it comes with is USB-C. You should be able to get hi-res output with the usual suspects: Tidal, Apple Music, Qobuz, etc.

  • @o.g.willing
    @o.g.willing Рік тому +2

    Great review! (Only that gate you put on your voice is sounding quite weird , it was hard to listen through the video)

    • @rephaelmendoza2933
      @rephaelmendoza2933 Рік тому

      same feedback, he should've lowered the threshold, his voice is being eaten on the lower volume parts

  • @onepieceatatime
    @onepieceatatime Рік тому +3

    How does this compare to the Mark Levinson 5909?

  • @kevin-zd4po
    @kevin-zd4po Рік тому

    You never mentioned the mark levinson 5909

  • @kanz7329
    @kanz7329 Рік тому +2

    how does the ANC compare to class leading ones like the airpods and sony?

    • @andreasakritas
      @andreasakritas Рік тому

      LOL!

    • @kanz7329
      @kanz7329 Рік тому +3

      @@andreasakritas LOL!

    • @BespokeSlipp
      @BespokeSlipp Рік тому +1

      I’d love to know this as well

    • @kanz7329
      @kanz7329 Рік тому +1

      @@BespokeSlipp I ordered them, received them today and did an A/B with my Final UX3000. So comfort wise they are not the greatest if you have a big head, the app is not straightforward and you will need to figure your way around it intially as I had connection issues, the sound quality however was a big step up from the UX3000, the ANC was just a tad bit better than the UX3000 not by much, so having said that I believe Sony and Bose still have better ANC, however the options available with the Focals are enough for it to be the top ANC headphone, just wished the comfort was better, the UX3000 has lush pads and a nice feel to them

    • @BespokeSlipp
      @BespokeSlipp Рік тому

      @@kanz7329 Really appreciate you sharing your impressions, thanks! I was expecting the sound quality to be great, but am surprised at the comfort level. My head is medium-sized so they might not be as bad; I’ll try them out at a local shop to see. I’ve actually been saving up for a LCD-X and now it’s time for more research and testing!

  • @andreww501
    @andreww501 Рік тому +1

    i have focal clears and love them , also have B&O H95 for wireless use , they are very good if had to say they
    dont get that loud , would love to compare to them , the clears are more comfy than h95 not as much clamp.

    • @ras_al_ghul_x2055
      @ras_al_ghul_x2055 Рік тому

      What part of the H95 do you like?

    • @andreww501
      @andreww501 Рік тому +1

      the sound , its very detailed to others have tried

    • @juanargueta5988
      @juanargueta5988 Рік тому

      @@andreww501 agree i own the h95 as well as clear and stellia

    • @kanz7329
      @kanz7329 Рік тому

      Ive owned both the clears and clear MG , the elegia and now the bathys, it has a similar sound signature when using USB mode but the clears are in a different ballpark when it comes to resolution. as far as bt is concerned I dont think there is a better headphone, oh and the comfort is not the greatest and defo not like the clears, these are smaller and feel a bit plasticky

    • @ras_al_ghul_x2055
      @ras_al_ghul_x2055 Рік тому +1

      @@kanz7329 wow your into the Focal.. I have the Mark Levinson 5909, maybe you should give those a try?

  • @aceofspades6667
    @aceofspades6667 Рік тому +4

    I own og clears and my office setup is Celestee + ifi go blu. Perhaps Bathys just made my mobile setup irrelevant. I enjoyed the Radiance but more bass and treble energy does have me a bit worried on the tuning.

    • @x32i77
      @x32i77 Рік тому

      My original clears clip with the song Traust from the band Heilung at over 90 db. Focal is trash 🗑️ because they cheap out on their machine's . They are using same machines as they do for their speakers.

    • @petrpulpytel
      @petrpulpytel Рік тому

      Hi, do you enjoy the clears more than radiance? which genres do you listen? many thanks in advance for your info👍

    • @x32i77
      @x32i77 Рік тому

      @@petrpulpytel clears sound amazing on cocktail ha500h

    • @dcoolx7637
      @dcoolx7637 Рік тому

      From what I’ve heard, it’s pretty v shaped, which’s completely different to the Clears so you might wanna hold on to your Clears for a while

    • @aceofspades6667
      @aceofspades6667 Рік тому

      @@petrpulpytel I prefer og clears to radiance and radiance over Celestee. I do not have clipping issues that the other person posted. I also have had 0 build quality issues for my focal. I assume those were early model variations but cannot speak to that.

  • @idontcaresapo8233
    @idontcaresapo8233 3 місяці тому

    I have the dune edition and let me tell you that they are the best sounding bt so far I also have the px8 and I also love them but there is something with the bathys that I love them more. The only complaint I have and I hope focal do something about it is the microfiber part of the headband. That this gets black dirty in a matter of a week. I’m a bold man so if you wear it outside I’ll sweat a bit and the headband a sponge.

  • @jazzymart5
    @jazzymart5 Рік тому +2

    If people want open back and wireless check out the Grado ones. .For me I think wireless should be closed and at least splash proof. .

    • @denislemieux7294
      @denislemieux7294 Рік тому +1

      I returned mine. They were cutting out. Also squeezing my head. That foam they use isn’t as comfortable as it looks. Just saying…

    • @AzizMugren
      @AzizMugren Рік тому +1

      @@denislemieux7294
      Did you try the “G cushion” with it? Because I heard it’s massively different than the original pads, it’s an extra 50$ purchase

    • @denislemieux7294
      @denislemieux7294 Рік тому

      @@AzizMugren No. Good point. Maybe I should have. There are reports about different pads changing the sound?

  • @warmlycalculated390
    @warmlycalculated390 Рік тому +1

    The best audiophile ANC bluetooth I've found is the Dali IO-6. Any idea how this compares? Has anyone else heard the IO-6?

    • @turbanelite
      @turbanelite Рік тому

      What about B&W PX8

    • @lukabosnjak3829
      @lukabosnjak3829 Рік тому

      Best one so far is the Anker Life q30 with Oluv's eq setting, nothing I've heard can play as natural and true to the original recording (only correct way). B&W, B&O, Bose, Jbl... All of them are just a joke for people who want sound quality but this focal might be different as their Elex is already one of the best with really great natural and fast sound.

    • @trilingualkid
      @trilingualkid Рік тому

      @@lukabosnjak3829 lol....no

    • @lukabosnjak3829
      @lukabosnjak3829 Рік тому

      @@trilingualkid Lol yes but you want to belive that it's worth it to spend over 400$ on a headphone for some gimmicks... Eq is 95% of the sound quality, watch here how some 10$ sony destroy the Meze Empyrian, Focal is still better tho: ua-cam.com/video/BRk_MwXMseQ/v-deo.html

    • @trilingualkid
      @trilingualkid Рік тому

      @@lukabosnjak3829 😂😂😂😂😂 no

  • @Josh-os2px
    @Josh-os2px Рік тому +2

    Can I use these in the bath 🚿?

  • @blueandwhiteeighttwo
    @blueandwhiteeighttwo 11 місяців тому

    This or momentum 4? For home and flights

    • @BloomAudio
      @BloomAudio  11 місяців тому +1

      Momentum 4 is lighter and probably slightly better on the non-sound end (ANC performance, connection stability, etc.) which might give it the edge for travel, but Bathys is the hands down winner on sound - the more I've heard both since doing the review, the more I appreciate Bathys' sound.

    • @blueandwhiteeighttwo
      @blueandwhiteeighttwo 11 місяців тому

      @@BloomAudio but is the Bathys anc usable on planes? I tried the PX7 S2 and anc was just non existent and I wonder if Focal's anc is better

  • @allansh828
    @allansh828 Рік тому +1

    are the cups still spring loaded?

  • @olimphus26
    @olimphus26 Рік тому +17

    Priced should've been $500 at the most and marketed heavily at the general public. Audiophiles who care about portable stuff already got their portable setups with DAPs, IEMs or higher end headphones which they won't change for a Bluetooth headphone. They missed the opportunity to bring newer people into the hobby.

    • @harackmw
      @harackmw Рік тому +2

      or ldac and aptx lossless...

    • @vonBaronX
      @vonBaronX Рік тому +2

      @@harackmw yes, no aptx HD or LDAC is big wtf?

    • @taekim81
      @taekim81 Рік тому +1

      T+A Solitaire T is coming for $1699.

    • @harackmw
      @harackmw Рік тому +1

      @@taekim81 yikes...

    • @allansh828
      @allansh828 Рік тому +1

      If the Bathys sound 90% as good as Celestee, I am going to ditch DAPs and IEMs. Using a USB cable to connect to a phone is much more convenient than using a DAP.

  • @everettedl
    @everettedl Рік тому +3

    I wonder how it sounds via USB compared to wireless. In that regard, it competes directly with the newly released Momentum 4 Wireless from Sennheiser, which also allows for USB listening. USB audio with these headphones is the best kept secret feature I think.

    • @harackmw
      @harackmw Рік тому +1

      Did the Sennheiser allow usb playback with a phone and noise cancelling at the same time? As far as I know the Bathys can do this, but the Senn couldn't, I could be wrong though.

    • @everettedl
      @everettedl Рік тому +1

      @@harackmw I've had the momentum 2, 3, and 4, and they all allow for usb playback and noise cancelling at the same time. If they didn't for you, it may have been a defect of some sort or maybe a setting was changed, but I've never had an issue with that.

    • @harackmw
      @harackmw Рік тому

      @@everettedl thanks!

    • @morespinach9832
      @morespinach9832 Рік тому

      Momentum series from Senn is a horrible sound. These are nowhere in that dumb league.

  • @jamestorres5582
    @jamestorres5582 Рік тому

    Staxx n Edifier collaboration

    • @Andyhandle
      @Andyhandle Рік тому +1

      I've for the Edifier stax Spirit s3. They sound good though you can get planar IEMs wired for half the price that sound better. However, the app for the Edifiers is a huge let down and pressing the button to turn on the headphones can take up to 14 seconds. They're comfortable to wear, with two different eat pads in the box. They can use a 3.5mm cable (need to be switched on). Battery life is excellent. Call quality outdoors is very poor unless there is no external noise. I find I use the Bose nc700 instead. They sound decent, not as good as the Edifier stax however the Bose are more comfortable, have better call quality, anc and transparency. I'm sure Edifier will do a mark two at some point.

  • @chrisbianchi8876
    @chrisbianchi8876 Рік тому +4

    Most audiophiles will demand ldac support. This is a big miss

  • @joshdevries1076
    @joshdevries1076 Рік тому +2

    not aluminum, but magnesium for the band

  • @ethanoux10
    @ethanoux10 Рік тому

    I think the headphone is constructed from magnesium not aluminum to reduce the weight

    • @BloomAudio
      @BloomAudio  Рік тому

      Yes - I double checked and it's aluminum and magnesium.

  • @dr.emilschaffhausen4683
    @dr.emilschaffhausen4683 Рік тому +2

    Bath eez.
    :-)

  • @anthonydiviolla1944
    @anthonydiviolla1944 Рік тому

    they're nice but a little too flashy for my tastes

  • @rondelayo
    @rondelayo 9 місяців тому

    Why do people automatically think that LDAC is so much better than any codec , especially Aptx adaptive which many experts say is just as good or better!!! LDAC is a Sony thing and I am not a fan of Sony's muddied sound signature!

  • @mymonkeydoesntstink9
    @mymonkeydoesntstink9 Рік тому

    Let me help ya . Baaa teees lmfao

  • @RamSarup
    @RamSarup Рік тому +5

    It's pronounced "Bat-ee-ss"!

  • @morespinach9832
    @morespinach9832 Рік тому

    At this price point I’d much rather look at mark Levinson 5909. But also watching for T&A solitaire.

  • @Raziel_SSJ
    @Raziel_SSJ Рік тому

    😴

  • @squidwerd1981
    @squidwerd1981 Рік тому

    It's pronounced bah-teese

    • @BloomAudio
      @BloomAudio  Рік тому

      They sent us the headphones before launch day, but they didn't send us a pronunciation guide. 🤷‍♂

  • @x32i77
    @x32i77 Рік тому

    T+A Solitaire T are way way better than these 🙂

    • @raphaelmeillat8527
      @raphaelmeillat8527 Рік тому

      Was wondering about it... What's the main difference sound-wise?

    • @x32i77
      @x32i77 Рік тому

      @@raphaelmeillat8527 they don't clip , they got better frequency response and they are more technical , more Hifi 🙂
      + They don't look strange wearing them in public because they look like your regular Bose 🙂

    • @andreasakritas
      @andreasakritas Рік тому +1

      In their dreams maybe :)

  • @mrright884
    @mrright884 Рік тому +2

    NO LDAC? NO BLUETOOTH LOSSLESS? = WASTE OF MONEY. GO FOR THE NEW SENNHEISERS OR SONY. Go Home Focal!