Extra info because I'm a dingus! Not sure if I mentioned that the Mac Pro is a 16 core model. Also I didn't know about the i9's being an extra toasty cinnamon bun compared to other CPU's ie i7's but I do have a Windows gaming i7 3060 laptop and it gets hot just loading mp3's from an external drive haha. Hot laptops are a normal thing but it's why the effort from the fanless Air blew me away (rare double pun), 30C video renders even on Apple software is outstanding. Also I should have aired my gripes with Windows instead of just complaining: I always hated getting ads in the start bar especially since I paid for my Windows copy. I had no control over updates which includes turning on and off the machine which stunk for work. After updates my preferences would often change opting me into sharing data again, annoying. SO MANY POP UPS. I'M PLAYING A GAME WINDOWS. Audio devices don't talk as well, Mac it's plug and play but Windows often needs a little bit of fiddling. As a muso I use a lot of them! No Microsoft, I don't want Office 365! Oh please stop pushing it on me! Maybe Windows 11 fixes all this but MacOS is working great for my musician/youtuber thing, I game on a Sega Dreamcast anyways (still Sega's current console, I'm up to date 👍). Sorry bout the Mac vid! Been driving my 16" idiot for 6 months and I had to share. Frank says nothing.
Windows 11 is mostly minor updates, but I've been using windows 10, and even though it needs some tinkering sometimes, I like it And you like your Mac book's And that's okay
Am still on windows 10, and it has been fine so far, I cant even upgrade to win 11 because of their weird requirements. When win 10 goes EOL (end of life), I will try switching to linux, because I hope gaming on linux will have matured more
Oh Dank, Windows 11 fixes so little. Yes, it is forwards in some ways (window management), but it has so many regressions, like the task bar. And it still has ads, everywhere. I am so glad I don't use Windows other than gaming. And even that I can get away with on linux.
Find me a liquid cooled laptop and then I could take my studio stuff with me,I have tried MacBooks and they have either got stolen or due to constantly traveling get left at a house I was staying at and have a ol’ mate call me saying what do you want to do with it I just run windows for gaming and because most laptops I can pick up cheaply but yes they run hot and my current little runabout laptop is a dell Inspiron she’s capable on full send can warm my car
Linux Distros has so much better than BOTH MacOS and Windows. Get something like Deepin if you really wanna use a MacOS like experience (i really don't understand why you would though. MacOS is ugly) KDE if you want the best Desktop experience.
It took the M1 to get me to upgrade from my old reliable and easily upgradeable Mid-2012 15" Macbook Pro and I couldn't be more happier. I can't wait to see what Apple comes up with in 2032 before my next purchase, lol.
I can relate. I bought a 2020 Intel MacBook Air… with 3 chrome tabs and a zoom call, the laptop was at 100°C. With my base M1 MacBook Air, it can edit 4k without getting hot…. M1 chips are bonkers!
Agreed! I've been through a bunch of Windows laptops that either broke on me or were crazy hot. Then I got my M1 Air base model, and goddamn It's magic.
Yeah cause M1 chips have DEDICATED ASICs for video editing and rendering. Intel Macs never had that outside of the 2020 Mac Pro which could get that as a PCIe card.
@@Photo0021 which laptop manufacturers were you buying from? because most are quite trash. ironically alienwere makes fairly good laptops that can run high end shit.
Holy shit, people still wanting to make serious work with laptops and paying serious buckeroos while they're at it No wonder all of the community is trash
I got given a 14 inch M1 Pro at a new job I started back in September. Boy it felt like christmas came early, this thing is awesome! I've historically been a windows person, but boy does windows feel so clunky and awful now by comparison. There's a few of my colleagues in the office who still have the older intel based macs and I've had a look at them and they are so much worse. I've literally never heard the fans spin up in this thing, granted I don't really put it through its paces all that much but in 3 months of ownership I would have thought to have at least heard them once! Its crazy! I think I'll end up fighting them if they ask for it back!
Hell yeah, got the exact same. Love the form factor, so incredibly nice to sit on the couch or in bed with it, stays super cool as well! Mac OS felt pretty natural to me, i'm a linux guy and mainly use GNOME so the UI wasn't all that different for me and i still have the power of the terminal whenever i need it. Overall, great machine, absolutely beautiful too.
@@metalspoon69 100% agree, it's excellent. Mac OS is great, I had some experience with it as a few years back I bought a second hand 2015 MacBook Pro. That thing was in pretty good shape and still runs well but they've clearly improved Mac OS a fair bit since then, it has so many features that I love. The terminal is excellent, I've learned all about Unix with this job and I obviously have a lot more to learn about it but I love it. I don't think I could ever go back to windows for a work machine now, it'd have to be either Linux or MacOS. I use Fish shell and I've customised my terminal to give all the syntax highlighting really distinct colours and it has made adapting to using Unix for day to day tasks so much easier. It's also nice having a different operating system for work and a different operating system for gaming, it means I can really disconnect the two and I don't feel like I'm at work when I'm sat in front of my home desktop, it's super nice. Vice versa - I know when I'm sat down at my Mac that it's time to work. My last job used windows for everything and it'd get to the point where I'd get home, boot up my gaming rig and I'd type in my work password rather than my PC's password. I'm yet to do that since using the mac! 😂
Decided to splurge for the same model. It's not the top of the line 14" but compared to the old windows machines I was using this thing is 1000x better. I'll have to see how it handles if I start doing more video editing but considering it doesn't stutter when editing 4k like my old machines I'll take it.
I got the 16-inch model with the M1 Max about a month ago and I am absolutely chuffed with it so far. Even now, I am still mightily impressed at the fact that this stinking laptop is able to edit all my stuff for my photography projects and even some video files, at a speed that makes my high-performance desktop PC blush, **all while it's on battery**. That battery also lasts stinking long. I actually also own a Windows 11 ultrabook that I use as a daily machine due to its small size and light weight. This big-chungus beast lasts longer on a charge **doing heavy edit-work** than my ultrabook, which I had to peg its processor back quite a bit to get 4-5 hours on a charge doing nothing more than web-browsing. Like everything though, its got flaws. The notch doesn't bother me, but it's still a visual goof, the caps-lock delay on the keyboard trips me up so many times that I wished they'd just make it easy to tweak the behavior, and having the SSD be permanently soldered to the board is still a personal pet-peeve of mine (I work off an external SSD, so storage capacity itself isn't really an issue). But taken as a whole, this is legitimately the best notebook that I have used and owned, by far. Just the fact that it is not only stinking fast and mostly quiet, but it does this without needing a charger (and lasts for a long while doing so) basically sealed it for me, despite knowing that there are other laptops out there which are probably a bit quicker. That and Windows 11 is not exactly where it should be, especially when Modern Standby continues to cook laptops in bags...
That is the crazy thing to me. I have a lot of hardware, and unlike Dankpods I don't use final cut, so I'm not locked to apple and although I do have a beefy desktop I use an old Thinkpad X as my mobile machine. But I know for a fact my next laptop is not going to be x86. We still have to see what AMD and Intel are able to do to compete with the M1 on power, they made improvements, but nothing revolutionary yet - So I hope they make some arm or risc type chip for power efficiency, and that Linux sort its battery issues out.
No joke man. Honest to gosh, I charge my M1 Pro laptop from a 5v, 500mA USB charger. It takes _a while_ to charge, and only really works if it's sleeping. But the fact that it's even possible is just insane.
@@nickwallette6201 right! I mostly do the same. My 12” razer got like 5-6 hours of use max and I always had to bring a charger strong enough to even get it to charge. Having the option to use a phone charger is unreal
@@prgnify dude, try parsec out! I daily drive thinkpad x240 and if I need some power or some gaming I'm streaming from my home pc. this parsec is awesome, zero latency.
@@ryandickson6761 correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the media engine decodes all codecs, as Asahi Linux can't playback youtube videos as codec acceleration is not implemented yet
I was stunned when I upgraded from my 2015 model. Initially bought my mother an M1 Air to replace her ageing laptop, and I waited for the M1 Pro/Max models because I wanted the big screen. I no longer need a tray between me and the laptop’s ass to watch youtube videos. I don’t need a charger with me at all times (I can be a pretentious coffee-slurping failed writer in a coffee shop for hours now) and being able to waste a few hours building houses in The Sims 4 without being warned to plug it in or feeling it burn my legs was a damn novelty (playing above 1080p and the fans barely made themselves known). This is the first laptop from Apple in a while where I was counting the days until I could pick it up from the store.
yeah I have a 2015 model and its fine but it is so fucking loud I can hear it through my headphones all the time. it also doesnt let me use chrome without heating up. I am probably going to get a new one before I go to college next august bc I dont know if this one is gonna cut it honestly. I cant play any games, and it basically wants to kill itself when I plug it into a monitor or even open excel for my schoolwork
I'm a photographer and I used to do all my work on an iPad pro (first the 2015 1st Gen, then the 2020 model), and finally got my first own laptop, the m1 macbook pro, 16 inch. I now live in a cardboard box and survive on stale bread because I have no more money, but damn, it was worth it. I'm glad I waited until this came out. Great video as always!
I did the opposite and had old intel MacBook Pro and since have switched to an M1 iPad Pro for my photo editing. The fan noise on the old laptop was unbearable and it would slow down quickly when doing more than a couple tasks. Blown away at the performance on M1 iPad. Would like to upgrade my computer too but I find myself using it less and less to a point that I’m wondering if i even really need it. There are still a few features missing from iPad but it is my go to 95% of the time now.
i own a mac mini 2018 and is enuff for me but im angry because it would be cool have it...this video is stupid, dunno because i open it always for mistake plus his voice his frustrating
"Windows is terrible and Adobe is worse" I could not agree more. Premiere crashes even while playing the video sometimes, nevermind when moving clips in the timeline around. I havve Ctrl+S PTSD, and press it every edit I make.
@@fylezrancher5609 yeah same here, haven't had any problems with premiere or photoshop, same thing with windows (except that one time they uninstalled my gpu drivers)
You just eloquently described my experience with going all out on the 2019 16” i9. The one time I splurge on the faster spec instead of the base model and it bit me in the ass so hard. The part where you get reunited with MagSafe, HDMI, and headphone jack almost had me in tears. Thanks this is the only tech channel i will ever watch again.
I used to take a lot of screenshots/screen recording for my job and I gotta say, quickly being able to adjust what you wanted to do and where to save them all from the touchbar was glorious. An adaptive row is useful, but some things just work better with buttons (esc for example)
Yeah, I can get behind that. Then again when Apple made that thing they were in full no legacy support or compromise mode to the point of absurdity so no chance in them leaving the function row alone.
The M1 has hardware bits specifically designed for things like video editing. Kind of like how back in the day old game systems had special hardware to move tiles around the screen so they could scroll smoothly when PC's couldn't even with more powerful hardware. The Xeon is a more generally powerful chip, but specific programs can be built to utilize the special hardware of the M1 to basically cheat extra performance. I'm not saying this as a knock against them, it's a goddamn brilliant return to form for specialized chips. There's a reason it was so effective in the 80's and there's a reason it's so effective now. Who cares if the NES can't do spreadsheets that well, it's built for goddamn Mario. Who cares if the M1 doesn't have the legacy support of x86 or a full CISC instruction set? It's designed for creators and it's a beast of an editor (and a solid performer on graphics too especially for its power draw)
I always feel weary when people use video renders as the benchmark for these chips since they have dedicated hardware to pump up that category, but then again if it does what people use it for in the real world then it works, doesn’t matter why it works at the end of the day
i really hope apple applies similar principles to more diverse fields like 3d rendering and audio work and builds in some co-processors for those types of things too lol
I mean. You're flat out wrong. Your conclusion is complete bullshit. x86 also has hardware encode and decode. And has for at least 10 years. And they keep adding hardware encode support for newer codecs.
Also not a knock against apple, "influencers" are also often video creators so the product markets itself. But there are also many types of "creators" and m1 certainly doesn't tailor to all, or even most, of them. Are you going to make your bloated electron apps or docker clusters on a mac that charges you up the nose for memory? Are you going to use develop android apps when last I checked emulators don't work and android studio barely does? Do you intend to roll the dice on whether you can get your Ansys suite running via emulation? Apparently it's even a pain to get openFOAM working (which I argue isn't a real alternative to fluent anyways. If you have to open your choice of cpp ide or editor, it's a different type of software. Alternatively I argue gcc is an alternative for openFOAM as well as literally every other piece of software). What about Solidworks? What about whatever 3d printing software people tend to use? Sure there are solutions; you can just pay up, embrace the ecosystem and develop solely for ios (or plug an actual android phone in), change your entire workflow etc; but are those good solutions? Afaik macs are, and have always been, great for video and music creators (+ whatever I missed) specifically. Saying they are for "creators" without qualifier is imo already buying into the marketing.
I got an M1 Air. Not a high-spec one, just replacing a 2012 Air. I expected it to spank the old Air. I did not expect it to spank my 2019 iMac. Blender render times are sickeningly close between the two despite the iMac costing nearly triple the price.
Apple can just say F you, adapt to my way of working. Microsoft can't because their main consumer base is not creators but enterprises. You can't force big companies and governments to recode their software or change virtualization methods because that costs a lot of money. That's why windows is way better at keeping old things working. Just look at 32bit software, Microsoft still supports it because it would be a pain for major corporations to change their software to 64 bits. Apple just said F you 32bit will not work anymore.
You can also just turn on regular control buttons instead of the control strip, it puts all the buttons in the same order as the Macs without touch bar. In keyboard settings.
M1 MacBook Pro 13 is the first Mac I’ve ever had. It’s seriously a life changer. I’ve made so much more music and actually edited some videos for them all on the same little machine and it never stuttered. Love that thing.
Seen a lot of people using the volume slider like that on a Touch Bar but all you need to do is hold your finger on the volume icon and swipe left and right, it’s legit a lot quicker when you’re using it properly
The old i9 laptops have a *massive* asterisk next to their claims of having the most powerful laptop processor of the era: While the i9 in there might theoretically be a speed demon, it's being strangled to death by that horrendously inadequate cooling system. I'm curious to see how the M1 and i9 models would compare if you took them into a walk-in freezer and set them on blocks of ice.
Yep, it's unfair to say the fans on the i9 are screaming since apple did such a poor job of cooling it (as always). I wouldn't be surprised if they did it specifically to make the m1 seem impressive in comparison
Pretty sure dave2d already tested that by putting it in his freezer, I think M1 still beats it but the i9 perfoms soooo much better with actual cooling. It's almost like actually having good contact with the CPU cooler helps the CPU stay cool.
Me too! Out of curiosity only. Though then it could be useful to a niche market of northern Canadians that want to edit 4K videos while sitting on their porch.
@@TheTomco11 I heard rumors saying that Apple were working on switching to ARM for about 5 years, which alignes to the timeframe when macbooks started sucking. What's also interesting is that, if you didn't know, Intel works with partners (e.i. Apple, Dell, HP, whatever) to implement features that they want (I believe the reason why Intel improved their iGPUs was because Apple really wanted it for example), but in 2017, because of lack of competition, and other unfourtunate events, Intel was stagnating, and couldn't make chips up to Apple's demand, yet Apple still decided to bang on their drum, and as a result you get these laptops with awful thermals (especially Macbook and later Macbook Air, which didn't even have a fan), just because Apple were stubborn on their design, while Intel couldn't/wouldn't provide chips that would be adequate for that configuration.
You know, when using the touchbar - if you simply hold and drag on the volume button, that will also change volume. No need for multiple clicks. Goes for most other functions too like display brightness.
In fairness, the Macbook i9's were really controversial at the time. They had insufficient cooling and thermal throttled a lot making the i9 chip pointless. You would have got the same performance from an i7 or i5. If you really want to see how well an i9 laptop can perform you would be better off getting a non-apple laptop. That said the new M1 chips are pretty cool and have a lot of potential
Imagine putting an i9 and high wattage GPU in really small heatsink while other Windows gaming laptops with the same specs are still getting thermal throttled even with larger heatsink and much better cooling solution
@@sihamhamda47 Yeah, I'm pretty sure an MSI laptop with an Intel Core i7 & an RTX 3050 could do better than a MacBook with an Intel Core i9 & an AMD Radeon 5500M. And from what I looked, that MSI laptop is way cheaper than that MacBook.
@@pabblo1 a better example would be a laptop with a 1650 Ti or 1660 Ti or a 1060 or 1070. Tbf Intel's skylake-based CPUs are nuggety today compared to Ryzen 5xxx and Alder Lake Intels
Oh man, this is such a precarious vid for me…I got a macbook pro a couple years back ‘cause I was just going off to college and my folks agreed that I could use one. That, and I wanted a machine that could handle all the drawing and occasional animations and screencap speedpaints I do (the old mac mini did NOT like downloading and rendering hours of footage), so we decided to invest in a higher-end pro and OH BOY, this lad can do it, but just like you said, it gets super hot, and I do have fans so it just sounds like it’s tryin to achieve takeoff when it gets stressed out. Even had it get into some weird overdrive where it heats up and the fans go crazy when I’m not even using it more than once. That M1 sounds soooo tempting…
I recently got an M2 Air and it's great, compared to my older Thinkpad it's 2.5x as fast while being completely silent. Yesterday I accidentally started a screen recording. Today I noticed because of the icon on the status bar, it recorded the screen for 17 hours straight and didn't get warm or slow down at all. I don't do video stuff, but for software development it's a really smooth system.
The M1s are great but it is worth mentioning that Apple killed the performace of the Intel chips with their god awful design. I think the I7s outperformed the I9s because it could just about manage cooling.
I had a 2015 MBP with an i7. (Or was it i5? I actually don't remember.) It was awesome. Near M1 levels of battery life doing casual stuff, and the fan rarely ever turned on at all. I could go months without hearing it. I think it was a perfectly balanced laptop, and I loved it dearly.
Intel also deserves some of the blame here. They needed to push more and more Watts to keep up with AMD and MacBooks have never had good cooling solutions. If your chip is a power-hungry beast and it's gonna be crammed into the torture cage that is a MacBook, then it's not gonna be a very happy beast
Apple spec’d intel to be able to handle Apples cooling system, and intel promise they would be able to handle it, and they didn’t. It was then 4 more years of promises from intel until Apple finally had enough and build their own processor design.
@@cockatoo010 See but Intel’s processors were a pre-made component. Apple was buying them as-manufactured, so they *needed* to design around it, and just didn’t.
@@nickwallette6201 damn, I have a 2015 i5 MBA, and it _maybe_ lasts 3 hours on battery. Less than 100 cycles on the battery too. Wish I could get battery life like that.
I'm glad these M1 models live up to their performance because my mid-2012 with a 4 hour battery that weighs as much as a ingot is really starting to feel archaic.
Haha, 10 years is a good run, I think. The only Macs I own are the G4 Powerbook Aluminum and now a 2021 M1 MBP. The M1 stuff feels like the proper jump from the PPC days, where you get insane battery vs similar models (The Powerbook would get like 4 hours of battery life doing CPU video decoding even at 8-9 years old… I don’t think any of my other laptops from that time survived that long anymore, and heck, my x86 laptop at the time started to have build and battery issues…) But seriously, the build quality, the keyboard, the speed, the silence, the screen. It just finally comes together in a good package like the days of yore. Now if we could convince Apple to add more sane UI controls instead of relying on 3rd party apps…
those things are great. props for keeping it going so long. i had a "macbook of theseus" type situation going on with my late 2011 model where i had swapped out pretty much everything that could be unscrewed at least once. ended up with like 5 partially disassembled donor macbooks in my closet by the time it finally bit the big one in 2019. honestly the quad core i7 in those things holds up remarkably well considering how old it is. are you still on an ancient version of macos or did you manage to get it to take newer updates?
The M1s are a god send honestly, especially when they get their $200-$250 discount. I also had a 2012 that lasted me till 2018. Bought the $1,500 13 inch M1 MBP on sale last year and I have zero regrets. I can comfortably edit my photos, listen to music, and watch 4K videos and movies without the laptop even struggling lol.
@@CaliKiid714 The Retina Macbook I got had a sticker price of about $3,000, top of the line back then, even with independent graphics it still looks and runs pretty good but I had to replace a bloated battery and thermal paste...the magsafe charger is original but its so chewed up you'd be frightened to touch it.
What's also really cool is that there are already people developing Linux for the M1 nuggets, the lack of Linux made them a total no-go for me, but you can run (slow, but working) Linux on them already and the GPU drivers are being written right now. The M1 is really cool, and that's coming from a passionate Apple hater lol
Many thanks dank pods for clearly stating the vid isn't pro apple, Everyone is allowed to like apple it's just when they make others feel bad for not being in that ecosystem, that turns everyone away from them, but good on you
@@trayner The thing is, it's not like Mac's are on the whole repairable either. I'm not going to get into a big slapfight about whats better, but if you don't like Android what other choice do you have apart from iOS? I used to use android but jumped to iOS around the Nexus 6 and I've still got my Nexus 7 with Lineage OS installed. One reason why I switched was that Apple supports their phones for much longer than any Android device, even googles own pixel. Part of the reason is that Apple has full control over the hardware and software, but a lot of android devices are beholden to the people who make the drivers for the chipset/modem etc. Also different carrier versions of the same phone can have updates delayed for whatever random reason. Google has seen this also and that's why they've gone to their own Tensor chipset so hopefully they can provide updates to Pixels for longer. Thats just not a thing with iPhones and I know people complained that updates made phones slower but I pulled out my old 2016 SE a few days ago, updated it to the latest OS and it still runs fine. I'm not gonna say great because it feels slower than my 13 Pro but I feel like a 5 year old phone isn't gonna be as fast as a new one. It would have to take something massive to get me off iOS because I love the integration with Mac and iPad that works seamlessly. Meaning when I'm at home I don't really touch the phone. Right to repair stuff is shitty definitely and I hate their stupid handwaving program where they send you like 2 tonnes of equipment just to do a battery or we. Maybe just maybe in the future they might try and make a phone thats not assembled with like 9000 types of screws and everything glued together but I doubt it.
Been uninterested in Macbooks for the trash specs for years, the M1 macbooks are the first ones that have really had me excited. looks like the new ryzen mobile processors might rival them though.
Intel and AMD already offer better chips than the M1, Intel offers a mobile 16 core now that pisses on the M1 like it's not even funny. It's ARM, people are acting like apple took the fire from the gods but all they did was make a very large high clock ARM chip not unlike a cellphone where as Intel and AMD are still full X86-64 compatible IE can do so much more.
@@minecraft13149 And 12900h will sound like a jet engine taking off under load or throttle down to the performance of a much worse i7 if it doesn't. Still, at least the competition from all 3 manufacturers of CPUs means we consumers have more good choices, and chances are the next gens will get even better as a direct result.
What the M1 hides is a forgotten wisdom from the tech world: Integrate Hardware and Software well and do it once. Now it is 80 different programs built by different teams for different problems bolted together by two guys in their grandmas garage fueled on kickfarter flex fund with optimization not even making the nice to have list.
Adobe newer programs (medium, and modeler) are pretty good as in they do what they propose without any frills or issues. Can’t way for them to fuck it up by adding everything without concern for optimization or coherence
I'm mainly a PC guy because that's what's best for my needs currently but I have no loyalty to any company and I'm happy that Apple has knocked it out of the park with these M1 chips because now Intel and AMD (and NVidia to some degree) are actually putting some effort into their next gen CPUs. Competition is good for innovation. If the GPU in the M chips keeps improving as much as it has between the M1 and M2 I might actually consider getting an M3 Mac.
I'm a PC gamer and have a pretty nice setup. But when it comes to laptops I always go with a Mac. The M1 is amazing and the battery life is insane. Heavy workflow and I still can easily squeeze 10-12 hours out of it.
My usage exactly. I have my gaming setup but my MacBook Air M1 is around to fulfill basic tasks. I'm getting upwards of 15 hours of battery life, which is awesome.
I got the M1 Air the month it launched as soon as reviews started dropping and it still has the aura of being brand new in actually every way, it far outlasts any laptop my friends have in terms of battery while being able to keep up with most things in its price range in terms of performance while having amazing quality. Thank you for mentioning this, although it took a while.
I remember a 2017 macbook pro that I got for school that always got hot while trying to play certain games or edit videos, but then I got a basic M1 air and it felt so much faster than the 2017 pro and rarely gets hot. I was blown away by the M1's power.
My 2012 MacBook Pro recently has been causing me serious problems when it comes to heating up, and honestly I just can’t use it anymore. So I have resorted to using my 2006 MacBook as a ‘portable’ (it weighs a ton) work computer until I can replace it. It runs snow leopard and isn’t good. The new M1 MacBooks look incredible, I’m definitely going to save up and buy one. It would be amazing to have a powerful laptop that I can use for work!
My issue with apple, minus the scummy business practices, is just the hyper closed off nature. Mate I want to do whatever the hell I want to with my tech I own, not be forcibly held back by the manufacturer because they have a "vision."
Well I have good news because the Mac isn't closed off. Hell it's their only device that isn't closed off. You're free to install whatever you want, and do whatever you want with it. Some people made OS mods for it to make it more Windows like, others homebrew apps to make it more Linux like. Hell, you can even install Linux distros to dualboot onto if you wanted, as there's a popular distro for the M1 chip called Asahi Linux in development.
really glad they’ve made them thicker, seriously considering a 16 inch mbpro. my 2019 15 inch i7 thermal throttles like you would not believe. In summer, even super basic projects are an issue.
I would take the plunge and buy one, I've been dailying the M1 MBA since November 2020 and its handled everything I've thrown at it, which varies from word documents to programming on VS.
I got the 16" M1P MBP myself as a lifelong windows user. I mean, it bloody hurt buying it at just a hair over 4000 kangaroo coins (aussie dollars), but at the same time, it's honestly the best machine i've worked on in a while. The battery life alone is nuts. Editing performance if you use ProRes beggars belief, and with H.264 it's more performant than its Intel predecessors. I mean, I rock an AMD Ryzen 9 5900X/GTX1080ti as my previous daily driver, which chews a solid 600W at full tilt, and this laptop _smashes it_ for video editing and rendering whilst chewing a tenth of that.
Hopefully they start making ARM processors with PCIe lanes that you can put in desktop machines. I really hope ARM or even RISCV pick up more in the computer market
Last year, I got an M1 Mac Mini as my new main computer and I never regretted the purchase ever since. That thing is so fast and can handle the most powerful apps on a desktop while still being very quiet. I was just blown away by how much this can handle.
i have an m1 macbook air and I don't think I could go back to a laptop with like 3-4 hours of battery life that gets up to 100c, even if it's nice for cold winter nights to point the vents at my face.
I'm a PC guy, and I have an Intel 9700k right now, and I still love hearing how great the M1 chips are. Apple setting the bar so high can only benefit everyone.
Agreed. I don't think we'd have seen the RDNA2 graphics on APUs any time sooner without the awesome iGPU on the M1s. Also, Alder Lake U-series should be quite performant at like 18W so it looks like Intel is catching up as well.
@@DigitalJedi Arm still will definitely be the direction a lot of laptops will go towards IMO, the higher efficiency and Windows Support makes it great for ultrabooks and even small low cost machines, most chrome books are ARM now. Desktops will probably be dominated by x86 for a good while due to the raw power for games and compute tasks.
You should seriously consider getting a M1 Macbook Air to use as a laptop/daily driver. You'd love it. They're excellent companion devices for the PC gamer and cheap as hell
Chances of me getting an Apple machine are low, but damn if I haven't been tempted by the M1 Air. That's their most impressive machine to me. Yea, it's not the most powerful of the bunch, but it's all passive cooling. That's just insane, especially in a laptop
Same I can never switch out of Windows there's too many apps that I rely on that are only on Windows (mainly an audio converter for iPod music ironically)
Seriously, go get an M1 Macbook Air right now. You won't regret it. Even though it's the cheapest and has no fan, it's an absolute sleeping monster with how fast it is. I've seen so many hardcore Linux fanboys circles switch to Macs all because of that laptop. Also keep an eye out during Apple Events as the Macbook Air is expected to get a brand new sexy design later this year. If not, you can get the current model real cheap now.
@@DrAnimePhD I won't, for various reasons. 1. I like to game. 2. I'm a DIY desktop person 3. I'm not a fan of MacOS 4. Also not a fan of Apple in general (I'm starting to like Microsoft less and less too, but I still like them more than Apple. I have been think of switching to Linux, but music stuff has prohibited me from doing so).
@@Cosmstack Linux is great depending on the use case, I used Ubuntu for several years when I was just using the computer for internet and other more casual things. As I started my career as a Graphic designer 8 years ago I got my first Mac and have been loving it. I did use a windows 10 PC at a job for 4 years but that thing was horrible I'm glad I'm back to using a Mac everyday for my job using the Adobe suite Macs are much more reliable.
@@Cosmstack You can have a Macbook as a companion device to your DIY gaming desktop. A lot of PC gamers and even Linux enthusiasts are doing that. And what is it about macOS you’re not a fan of?
I was so happy when they put the M1 in the iPad Pro/Air(2022), but I wish they could utilize the ridiculous power that the chip offers! Sadly, the iPad is still being held back, not by hardware, but by software. It’s getting better with every update, but The whole process is taking too long. I really hope they add a good STL slicer to iPad one day.
If they didn't hold back on the software, then what's the point of getting a more expensive MacBook which performs the same as a cheaper iPad? If they did that, they'll lose sales on the MacBooks
@@lotfibenhammou916 Literally segment them by hardware then. Make it so that the iPads only get the processor of the previous gen and or give macbooks ultra by default. Its kinda stupid that they would decide hey lets shove the same SoC from our desktop/laptops into a damn tablet and just neuter the software because it would eat sales. Instead of them tiering it by well idk, battery life or something. as far as I know iPad M1's only get 8-9 hours of moderate usage while a macbook pro can cram out a whole day with relatively careful usage.
It's easy - Windows for games, macOS for creative work (+ programming for Apple devices) and Linux for programming. That's what I've settled on during the years and I quite like this setup. There are cons and pros for all of the OSes in my opinion.
@@EddieTristes Yeah it is. I'd say even Linux is better at games than MacOS thanks to proton. But I will always prefer MacOS and iOS before any other OS when I do webdesign and wireframes.
Yeah but it sucks having to do that. Mobility ends up becoming a real issue. The macbooks are the only real portable option, so forget gaming if you invested in a good desktop pc and need to move around, and you need a good internet connection if you want to run linux on a server somewhere
@@ts47920535 Agreed. Luckily I don't travel much, usually only for meetings and such. I also don't play a lot of GPU demanding games so I can play on the move on my HP laptop. But having to switch devices sucks. And having to move files between them, especially my iPad and windows machines is sub optimal.
Lifelong PC user here too, got the most basic M1 Air earlier this year for iOS app development purposes, and it just blew my mind. It's not perfect of course, but it makes all comparable Windows laptops look like freaking dinosaurs. I actually do have a decent HP Zbook mobile workstation, but I'd much rather use the Air when out and about, no worries about battery life, no worries about blocking air vents when using in bed... But I really should have gotten the 16GB RAM model, that's kind of the real limitations to using it as my only machine, I need to run several large apps at the same time (Android Studio, Visual Studio, Photoshop, etc) and it struggles...
"Windows 8 is the worst." yeah... it's was/is bad. it almost seemed like was specifically designed for a tablet and someone went, "No...it'll be for EVERY computer."
It wasn't Vista or ME. Windows 8, at least 8.1 was good. It wasn't perfect but its a decent experience. Windows 10 and 11 uses so much Resources its a no brainer moving to Manjaro KDE.
I always dreamed of getting a mac since we got to use them occasionally at school, and compared to my home computer it was like it was from a century in the future. Never had the money though, and as I got older I realised that they aren't really all they are cracked up to be. Recently though I have been hearing good news like this about them which is reigniting that dream. I would love to start creating something but whenever I try in windows the learning curve for the programs is just too steep and I get burnt out because it feels like an endless task for a mediocre outcome that will be an embarrassment to show anyone. From my limited experience with mac programs, it seems much more intuitive and visual instead of tiny symbols and walls of text and nonsensical errors.
As someone about to graduate high school, having Macs back in pre-3rd grade was so nice. Always seemed smooth and quality based vs the cheap feeling and sketchy HP computers. Unfortunately we only used them predominately for our tech class, and then the other schools didn’t really have them, and if they did I never had that specific teacher. We ended up getting a 13” 2013 Air, and that was ok but I didn’t really use it until about 2019, and it just felt old, dated, and not too great. I just upgraded to a 2020 13” Pro, and that thing is amazing. Not a fan of the Touch Bar, but the M1 chip in there does wonders. It’s made me want to look for a used iMac with a used Mac Pro as a home computer now, but unsure if the MacBook would be faster anyways…
@@liamsz it’s not the base. It’s the 13”, but it has the 8GB of ‘memory’ and 512GB of storage. But the iMac Pro would be a early 2010ish year (which I can obviously upgrade the internals if needed).
Well, in a way they were in the 2000s, they had the first *animated* compositor a half a decade before experimental efforts in Linux popped up and before a pre-reset prototype of DWM would function and then Compiz and Vista. And PowerPC was badass too. What ruined it was that Steve Jobs died and Tim Apple devolved into the meme version of Apple that people joked about during the golden age. Stuff like the one key macbook became an almost legit possibility, Apple remembered thin good and went head first with no sense of vision. Boneheaded things like headphone jacks being removed and i9s being poorly cooled and donglefest were thanks to Apple not having a damn clue Jobs actually wanted and just remembering he liked thin and pretty and memed it up to 11, and thus Macs became shit. Ironically a fatter MB Pro with magsafe and so on feels far more Jobsian than any touchbar butterfly pile of crap.
I always had Windows laptops. Now, at 25, I got my first MacBook. A M1 MacBook Air. And honestly, I never want to go back. Its the perfect laptop for pretty much everything except gaming.
I’m now in the same mindset with windows 11 as you were with windows 8. It’s just multiple steps back. I was in the market for a new laptop, so I bit the bullet and get my first MacBook. I love it and macOS is now my daily driver. I just use windows to play games now.
To be honest, Windows 8 fucking sucked. No doubt about it, worst thing they ever made. But Windows 11 feels like such a breath of fresh air to me, it feels like they managed to step a bit closer to Apple with this one, I love it
hm, i have yet to have any glaring issues with windows 11. honestly i find some things to be more intuitive than windows 10. but i suppose i dont have much experience on either
I went from a macbook air 2014 to the new M1. I thought it would be my traveling laptop for editing, but just like you, it completely blew the desktop iMac out of the water. It really is amazing!
I convinced one of my former roommates to be an early adopter to the m1 imac way back in 2021 over the power/price/heat and most of all display. She was finishing her senior year of visual arts school and she literally thanked me every time she saw me 😂 Think about it, I basically bullied her into dropping 1500 bucks on a new computer when she said she was perfectly happy with her old one. And she couldnt have been happier
Honestly I'm really happy for people in Apple's ecosystem, I'm glad they have a laptop that's really good. Even though I really hate Apple themselves with their shitty practices with Right to Repair and the insane markups they do for machines and even accessories. Though other companies are not all guilt free of doing similar things. I'll be sticking to windows if I get a laptop, but hey, I'm happy for you all who like Apple's ecosystem.
@@skyscall It will have to do a bang up job of emulating x86 or it will fall flat. Windows Store apps never took off, most applications by far are classic x86 applications.
I was never an Apple fan (quite the opposite) but I was THRILLED when I heard they were moving Macs to Arm. Its an excellent choice, the efficiency difference is very real and hopefully it drives more arm support.
Honestly there's nothing preventing the industry to switch to ARM except lack of good chips, which is tied to lack of Windows because Windows equals people.
@@supermaster2012 I am aware but they never pushed the transition. To do that you'd need an actual proper working translation layer, like Apple has Rosetta. The Microsoft's one is still not great and the offering of native ARM apps isn't either.
@@Astra3yt the entirety of the UWP library works on ARM, so does WSL and WSA and all 32-bit win32 apps, which encompass the vast majority of the Windows library. There is no demand for ARM in the enterprise environment, which is Microsoft's target demographic. For context, the amount of workgroup devices is miniscule compared to the amount of domain joined devices.
I liked my 2016 MBP. The feel of the keyboard was great. The touchbar was nice (you could change the volume without 2 button presses by dragging). Sold it in 2021 and bought an M1. Apple silicon is pretty impressive
As someone who owns a late 2016 MacBook Pro, I can agree with a lot of things in this video. I still love using my 2016 because it has just blown everything else I've used out of the water. My old 2012 MacBook Pro, it destroyed it, my iMac from 2014, beat it, all of my windows computers that only lasted one year each, I've kept this thing running perfectly. I did have a speaker problem but Apple was like, "you're a month out of warranty but will fix it for free and cover shipping," like bro that was not what I expected. The only other problem I had was the battery life went down the drain but new batt in and it works perfectly again. If I had the money I would for sure upgrade to an M1 especially because I game on my Mac, and if you question why see the line about all my windows computers lasting a year at best, windows hates my guts.
@Mephitus Incognito Some I run on a VM but about 200 of my 210 game library would work on an M1. I’m confident in one using Metal, apple’s native process.
Switched from an 8th gen intel thinkpad to a base M1 air. Even with half the ram and no active cooling. It is just, so much better. Both small 13"laptops, just the differences are insane lol. Quite happy my T14S AMD was delayed so much, that I cancelled it for a macbook. That was cheaper too!
Devs are working on it. Clip Studio Paint is on it, for example, and Adobe is reworking Photoshop for iOS. Biggest issue is the time it takes to rework these applications to work with iOS APIs and design guidelines. You don't want jank non-touch apps on it, nor apps using an 8 year old API that run like a potato.
Yeah, as someone who doesn't like apple as a company, I have to say moving all their devices to ARM based processors along with unified memory was the smartest decision they made. The main take away for me between this video and the M1 MacBook Pros I deploy at work are that when the program you are running are optimized for ARM (apple application with some 3rd party support) they're amazing. Now Apple needs to fix the limitations on virtual machine support along with multiple monitors under HDMI.
My issue with Mac is more the lack of options when you have to look into issues and fix things. At work we have to use iMacs, because we use a software that only exists for Mac. So many times something broke and there was nothing we could do. Was it the RAM? Was it the CPU? Who knows? One time the OS died on us. The whole OS. Could I just write a new install on the machine? Of course not. And don't get me started on the issues when software doesn't work. When it crashes without an error log. It's absolutely awful to work with.
Agreed 100%, BS like this is why I like boring normal PC's I can fix when something goes wrong that normally don't cost, and arm, and a leg. Far as the OS, Windows is just as annoying with Windows 10 being the last straw for me, which is why I moved to Linux full time, and I now use Solus Linux as my default distro.
Business users don't care about repairability. If you're on a proper SLA with Apple (or any other vendor like IBM), they'll just give you a new machine. Likewise, reinstalling MacOS is trivial. You would've been back up and running in about two hours.
Main reason I find MacOS painful to work with is I just know the internals of Windows and Linux a lot better, and they're both also a lot more googleable/stackoverflowable when something breaks. I've had enough Macs over the years to have run into "take it to the genius bar" as the preferred "solution" to a problem several times, and only after spending hours digging through forum threads on related issues did I find the actual, often fairly simple, solution.
@@marcogenovesi8570 No that's called being lazy, you can use another computer, tablet, phone, etc.. and Google the model of computer you are having trouble with if it's not working at all, and usually find the answer, and Windows has become a nightmare of an OS, with no hope of saving it IMHO unless it goes full open source.
The conspiracy theory is that Apple intentionally made Intel MacBooks progressively worse and worse (but not bad enough so that their audience would actually notice or care), so that the M1 variants seemed like massive upgrades (not that they aren't, they're great machines)
I doubt that. Apple was definitely planning to switch to their own silicon anyways, but Apple never made the MacBooks worse, at least intentionally. Apple just got too caught up in form over function, and didn't bother to change the design while Intel chips were getting more demanding, causing them to throttle and heat up a lot more.
From what I heard, it was more Intel kept promising more efficient chips, then failing to meet the deadline or spec, so each machine had to have corners cut to account for the heat and power consumption of the machine, whilst fitting Apple's vision for the design. (Thinner keyboard, bigger battery, more fans) ...granted Apple could have just went with the current design back then and made it significantly less jank, but this is Apple we're talking about.
The reality is simpler, Apple knew that Intel was in a hurry with its CPUs, and since its engineers are shit that do not know how to dissipate heat, they decided to make the leap to M1, more knowing that the M1 would be unupdatable in the long term to intel comparison Basically, Apple changed to M1 just to rip off their customers, because even the M1 is very poorly cooled.
As a windows guy, i must say that macos and apple computers are amazing for content creation (and dev as macos is UNIX based) but when you try to do almost anything that is not a ‘’mainstream’’ thing, the combo of ARM and MACOS completely kills it, windows is far more versatile (and open) than macos in my opinion.
There's a chance that this will change with time, though - people developing more apps tailored to a RISC-based machine, as well as improving the hardware efficiency for more edge-case work
@@JohnGardnerAlhadis The only thing Windows excels at is using obscure old software and games. Windows is built that way; to support old software. macOS and Linux in the other hand is moving. The latest macOS doesn't even support 32bit libraries anymore.
@@BoxOfBananas To a large extent, closed source software has been the reason that ARM hasn't been able to gain a foothold. It succeeds today only because of the open source base layer of Darwin (for MacOS) and Linux (on which Android and Chrome are based).
I made a similar upgrade recently, going from the MBP shown at 2:45 to the 16" M1 Pro. You'd think upgrading a laptop two years into its life to its next-generation counterpart would be completely unnecessary and excessive, but this particular upgrade made my i9 MBP feel like ancient tech right away.
@@wayneyang7920 It wasn't even bad, that wasn't my point lol. Aside from the heat the 2019 16" was a fantastic laptop and did everything I needed it to in a thin and light package. But the M1 Pro/Max are in a different league.
Man I've been wanting an M1 Pro ever since they announced them. I just can't justify the price when I don't do editing or anything like that. I can also confirm the previous generation are garbo, I work on Macs at work sometimes. So many strange failures with them.
I don't do editing but I bought my 14 inch M1 Pro Macbook Pro because I wanted it's amazing 120hz 1440p display and amazing speakers. The speakers alone are the best in any laptop I have ever heard. But it's understandable if you don't wanna pay $2000 just for an amazing screen and speakers. Well the good news is rumors are Apple is working on a non-Pro 15 inch Macbook for next year.
I still really want one, maybe one day I'll bust the buck for it. I actually kinda hate Apple but they seemed to have nailed it, just wish you could replace the drive in them like you can the old models.
@@AvantleFox bro the drive is so fast it’s not even needed ahha . Over 5gb read speeds ..they also sell sd card adapters to expand the storage using as card if you want to go that route
Your vids are the best. To the point, no grey areas. The giggle factor is through the roof. If I'm feeling a bit down, you bet I pop one of your vids on. More power to you brother.
I use an m1 pro for everything and it’s amazing. I also got it for an insane sale at only $1000. Had to save for a few months but it was definitely worth it
While the M1 CPUs are definitely impressive for content creation (partly because of HW acceleration), I see a big problem with Macs using these CPUs - non-removable SSDs. I totally get why RAM is being soldered to the motherboard these days, in my opinion it's not that problematic, because RAM is hella durable. I've never in my life seen RAM fail, even on 15+ years old PCs. But soldering SSDs is very bad, because the SSD WILL fail, and when it does, your laptop is done. Combine this with swapping (especially Macbooks with 8 gigs of RAM swap a lot, although from what I've read, it has been somewhat fixed), and you may have your SSD fail quite soon. And I've seen a lot of SSD failures, some even after 1 year (in many devices, not just Apple ones). I just don't understand why would they make this when we have tiny M.2 drives, which would definitely fit inside these laptops (for example an M.2 2230 is literally finger sized). These anti-consumer practices honestly kill all my respect of Apple devices and M1 CPU whatsoever. I recently bought a mid tier Acer laptop and immediately took it apart (as I do with all the electronics that I buy) and the SSD can be swapped by anyone able to hold a screwdriver in matter of minutes. Hell, they even instruct you how to do it in the manual! Combine this with ridiculous price tags for increased storage with these Macbooks (500$ for 1 TB extra where I live) and I would rather have laptop with slower and more power hungry CISC CPU from Intel or AMD from some other manufacturers, because I can at least change components in these laptops when I need to.
Exactly. I am happy for Danks if he is enjoying his purchases cuz who am I to judge in the end but stating stuff like "ohhh try and see anything that compares to this laptop" when it runs greater risk of failure with no recourse is just asking for trouble if you ask me (see his experiences with the Air Pod Max where Apple products have failed him). While I am not an Apple fan and it would be easy to go "haha no gaming", I really do respect the older macbooks that can be repaired and upgraded and last for much longer thanks to Apple's streamlined OS. Taking the upgradability/reparability from the consumers does not outweigh the performance you can get out of the new fancy chip here and now. Because more than anything I feel like the Macbooks have lost more than it has gained in the long run.
Yeah, the new MacBooks are not made to sustain one's ever-changing need for technology. I have the 2021 MacBook Pro and it's impossible for me to upgrade my storage, which means that I have to resort to external SSDs and just constant data management. It's fine for now, but this is just inconvenient and not sustainable in the long run. But for Apple that inconvenience is ultimately benefitting their pockets and contributing to unnecessary electronic waste, which is why now I refuse to give them money unless I absolutely need to.
Well, yes, I agree that non-replaceable SSDs is an absolutely annoying thing, Storage is not a limiting factor (for me at least) as you can get Thunderbolt 4 external SSD enclosures these days that directly connect to the PCIe Bus akin to sticking an M.2 in a slot. Yes this does mean you have a dongle sticking out of your laptop, but generally speaking it's always good practice to keep your OS and your mission-critical data _seperated_ anyway, even in a PC. I keep all my data on NAS-Grade HDDs, and my _really_ important data that I need backups of in cloud storage, inside password-protected folders.
Volume slider with the touchbar is way cool what you talking about. You can set any volume level with one click by tapping and holding, then dragging it. It’s awesome because you get that “””analog””” level of control you don’t get with volume buttons.
I needed a new laptop for my university classes, so I did the classic "find an old t430, slap some new parts in it, and run linux" strategy. I adore the thing
I own the M1 Mac Mini base model. Absolutely great bang-for-buck family computer. Quieter than a mouse and so fast doing basic tasks. The new Macbook Pros are way out of my budget but they look awesome.
As a windows/android user this video was great. I am always interested in seeing how the other side lives in terms of improvements. I had an old boss who was in love with most of Apple's products. So much so he exclusively repaired them at our repair shop.
Same. I want a Windows laptop that's reasonably powerful while only getting warm under load despite having no fan. I've used macOS for some years and know its ins and outs enough, and ultimately prefer the Windows desktop experience.
I’ve got an M2 max at my job - the newest, not the 2021 with the 2016 body - and it just leaves me speechless on every big chore. It eats up everything AND does it on a battery the whole effing day. It truly is amazing. Only sad thing is that Windows 11 on Virtualbox doesn’t work yet so you have to subscribe to Parallels to work with Windows software. Some pieces of software will not even work, but 85% of Windows software does.
it's been like what, 1 and a half years since I got a MacBook Air m1 and it's still fast as if it was new and barely becomes hot. I can't believe how good this laptop is, I knew I wouldn't have regretted buying it
I got my M1 Max a couple of months ago and other than gaming it is be best and most well rounded laptop I have ever owned. Apple is actually ahead of the curve this time by at least 5 years. It took 5 years for Microsoft to even try a force touch trackpad.
Gonna be real with you chief, windows laptops have had force sensitive trackpads for YEARS. Synaptics trackpads have been able to sense force since I wanna say the mid 00's, but no one ever used it because it was seen as a gimmick. Apple still does great trackpads though, credit where it's due. Windows laptops have caught up though from what I understand, and the trackpad on my ASUS absolutely would be probably the nicest trackpad I've ever used, including Apple's, if it wasn't for the fact that it's only 3 fingers wide LMAO.
@@lotto77102 i have an nec versa from the mid 90s that can sense pressure on its trackpad.... .....windows 98 loves it.... ...gotta love mac cultists...
I think most of the M1's performance comes from the optimizations made for it since it only is in a specific set of computers. Intel and AMD have to be versatile enough to do good in many different combinations of custom builds. Still, impressive results from the M1 and I'm sure prebuilds are going to try and optimize to similar levels.
It isn't the optimization, it is the architecture of the chip itself. Apple uses ARM processors which are the same as the ones used in phones, while intel and AMD use X86 which is much more ineffecient. The way the chip fundementally works is different which leads to the same thing being done with much less electricity. Only now have ARM chips gotten to the level of performing as good as X86 chips and apple is the best at them right now. Any other computer you can buy right now has Intel or AMD which cannot be as efficient.
it doesn't need to be optimized for specific computers, you can tell from how Apple is just shoving them into literally everything they sell and it just working perfectly
I just want to thank you because of your video I finally upgraded from my 2012 MacBook air to a brand new 2020 MacBook Air M1 from Walmart today! I saw some refurbished ones for like half off and I considered returning it an getting them but then I realized they were intel so ill enjoy my shiny new toy!
Agree 100%, but to be fair Apple did Intel really dirty by making those laptops extremely thin and giving no chance whatsoever for the CPU to cool down. Now, the M1 will destroy the intel chip regardless but at the very least they could've made the Intel machines run much cooler.
They were probably expecting the chips to come out in late 2018/ mid 2019, so they redesigned the MacBooks for the m1 chip, it’s obvious that those designs were made with the m1 chip in mind. But they really handicapped the intel chips though, and made some really stupid thermal decisions to probably make the chips look bad
I had a 2017 15" and it was ok until one year in, where the display started leaking internally and had an orange splotch on the screen in a place depending on how it was positioned in my backpack lol. Lost a lot of color saturation too. Used it like that until the battery failed this year and got the latest 16" M1 Pro and its absolutely fantastic, what an upgrade! Especially as a video editor for my dumb car stuff lol.
I'm a PC enthusiast so I was never able to recommend anyone buy an imac or macbook cause of how overpriced they were. The M1 macbooks are legitimately good value compared to other laptops, and on launch, compared to desktops. Now us gamers can say we can beat a laptop that isn't even competing for performance that also consumes a good 80-90% less power for the same price 😎
If Apple got their head out of their ass and fully supported Vulkan through Metal, Valve could port Proton to MacOS and the M1 machines would be decent little gaming computers.
@@vanilla4064 Hello! And I agree MoltenVK helps, but it still doesn’t support the full API and my understanding is that Valve would have to create a custom version of Vulkan/MoltenVK to be able to hack together the missing components for Metal. And even if they decided to dedicated the time into the project, it would likely be endless bug fixing and challenging to maintain with changes on Apple’s end.
@@l4ndst4nder That's very true; sadly I don't think Valve will ever due to the highly probable diminishing returns on supporting mac. It's still much better than nothing though (not in regards to Proton which is amazing that they've gotten so far with it).
The M1 Max on my Mac Studio is a freaking MONSTER! I could have 20 Kontakt instruments running in Pro Tools at the same time and I’d STILL never hear the fan! What a beast!
The M1 ultras in the new MacBook Pro‘s in some use cases out perform the highest end max studio granted these are workflows using Apple-based apps. However the fact that you can get performance at a cheaper price is phenomenal
As one of millions who worked with Windows their whole life, I'm really happy to say I've enjoyed having a 2012 Macbook Pro as a daily driver is amazing. Bless Apple for including good features again! I can't wait to buy a used M1 Macbook in a few years. Maybe even some good ARM powered laptops will be out by then too.
@@Zer0sVoid ikr, got it second hand dirt cheap in amazing condition, and I basically just downloaded a Catalina patcher and it works great! (except for minecraft minecrafts a lost cause but who’s going to be playing that on a mac anyway) and the ports: it has magsafe 1 thunderbolt usba and the glorious *headphone jack* and cd drives which i use often for playing old cds and dvds that i have lying around edit: AND THE GLOWING APPLE
I work in an education environment so we're 50/50 Mac and Windows. The M1 machines are super impressive. Intel machines feel like using a dinosaur nowadays.
@@Mububban23For PCs, heat isn't really an issue, and you have multiple layers of cooling (which is the main reason why Intel CPUs run so hot, it doesn't expect to be ran in a laptop config)
I recently upgraded from a '16 model to a M1 at work, and I can confirm everything said here. The M1 is delicious. Previously I'd start a clean build on our app and would browse Twitter for 8 minutes because it took so long to compile, now I can genuinely start the build, pull up the files I want to look at and the app starts on the stimulator. It's insane! We also have MacMini's that do our CI builds for us. Two are on Intel, three are on M1. Basically, the Intels are bottlenecking us because their speed is so comparatively abysmal. Only thing I don't love is how the M1 have a lot of software issues that as a developer aren't super fun to deal with. A lot of "if you have an M1 put this at the start of the file so it works" stuff, especially when working in bash. Other than that, absolutely amazed by these beautiful beasts
I went 100% Linux by the time Win8 came along, not looked back. The few times I've used MacOS I've wanted to tear my hair out but the M1s look very tasty and while Apple aren't actively helping the project to get Linux running on it they are thankfully not getting in the way.
They aren't getting in the way of Windows running on M1 either, Microsoft's the only one who's being annoying about it seeing as they _really_ want people to buy their Surface devices. The fact that Boot Camp is still hidden in Monterey's code shows you that they're at least cool with other OSes running on their hardware, after all they make their money both from hardware sales _and_ from the selling of services like Apple Music and Apple TV.
I honestly wonder how much works goes into editing these videos. The charm of the videos is from the dialogue. There’s obviously good writing and research that goes into them. But I feel like he could edit on a potato running iMovie and still get the same watch time.
Bought my wife and I each used 13" MacBook Pro's from eBay 5 years ago (2015 i7 16gig Ram 500gig SSDs). Both machines looked like new and have been flawless. Did I mention they were dirt cheap (just a few hundred dollars each)? Magsafe, lots of ports, earphone jack, SD slot. We love them.
Extra info because I'm a dingus!
Not sure if I mentioned that the Mac Pro is a 16 core model. Also I didn't know about the i9's being an extra toasty cinnamon bun compared to other CPU's ie i7's but I do have a Windows gaming i7 3060 laptop and it gets hot just loading mp3's from an external drive haha. Hot laptops are a normal thing but it's why the effort from the fanless Air blew me away (rare double pun), 30C video renders even on Apple software is outstanding.
Also I should have aired my gripes with Windows instead of just complaining:
I always hated getting ads in the start bar especially since I paid for my Windows copy.
I had no control over updates which includes turning on and off the machine which stunk for work.
After updates my preferences would often change opting me into sharing data again, annoying.
SO MANY POP UPS. I'M PLAYING A GAME WINDOWS.
Audio devices don't talk as well, Mac it's plug and play but Windows often needs a little bit of fiddling. As a muso I use a lot of them!
No Microsoft, I don't want Office 365! Oh please stop pushing it on me!
Maybe Windows 11 fixes all this but MacOS is working great for my musician/youtuber thing, I game on a Sega Dreamcast anyways (still Sega's current console, I'm up to date 👍).
Sorry bout the Mac vid! Been driving my 16" idiot for 6 months and I had to share.
Frank says nothing.
Windows 11 is mostly minor updates, but I've been using windows 10, and even though it needs some tinkering sometimes, I like it
And you like your Mac book's
And that's okay
Am still on windows 10, and it has been fine so far, I cant even upgrade to win 11 because of their weird requirements. When win 10 goes EOL (end of life), I will try switching to linux, because I hope gaming on linux will have matured more
Oh Dank, Windows 11 fixes so little. Yes, it is forwards in some ways (window management), but it has so many regressions, like the task bar. And it still has ads, everywhere.
I am so glad I don't use Windows other than gaming. And even that I can get away with on linux.
Find me a liquid cooled laptop and then I could take my studio stuff with me,I have tried MacBooks and they have either got stolen or due to constantly traveling get left at a house I was staying at and have a ol’ mate call me saying what do you want to do with it I just run windows for gaming and because most laptops I can pick up cheaply but yes they run hot and my current little runabout laptop is a dell Inspiron she’s capable on full send can warm my car
Linux Distros has so much better than BOTH MacOS and Windows. Get something like Deepin if you really wanna use a MacOS like experience (i really don't understand why you would though. MacOS is ugly) KDE if you want the best Desktop experience.
I refuse to believe this man isn’t just hands and a voice floating in nothingness.
Top comment?
He's actually just Frank with hands
That’s pretty much exactly what DoomGuy is in Doom Eternal 😂
To save on rendering..
And iPod
It took the M1 to get me to upgrade from my old reliable and easily upgradeable Mid-2012 15" Macbook Pro and I couldn't be more happier. I can't wait to see what Apple comes up with in 2032 before my next purchase, lol.
Apple sucks get another brand
@@Dontbeafraid2 nah
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@@Dontbeafraid2 there mac books are actually alright
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I can relate. I bought a 2020 Intel MacBook Air… with 3 chrome tabs and a zoom call, the laptop was at 100°C. With my base M1 MacBook Air, it can edit 4k without getting hot…. M1 chips are bonkers!
Agreed! I've been through a bunch of Windows laptops that either broke on me or were crazy hot. Then I got my M1 Air base model, and goddamn It's magic.
Yeah cause M1 chips have DEDICATED ASICs for video editing and rendering. Intel Macs never had that outside of the 2020 Mac Pro which could get that as a PCIe card.
@@Photo0021 The only thing you should be using windows for is gaming, emulating and office 365 work.
@@Photo0021 which laptop manufacturers were you buying from? because most are quite trash. ironically alienwere makes fairly good laptops that can run high end shit.
Holy shit, people still wanting to make serious work with laptops and paying serious buckeroos while they're at it
No wonder all of the community is trash
I got given a 14 inch M1 Pro at a new job I started back in September. Boy it felt like christmas came early, this thing is awesome! I've historically been a windows person, but boy does windows feel so clunky and awful now by comparison. There's a few of my colleagues in the office who still have the older intel based macs and I've had a look at them and they are so much worse. I've literally never heard the fans spin up in this thing, granted I don't really put it through its paces all that much but in 3 months of ownership I would have thought to have at least heard them once! Its crazy! I think I'll end up fighting them if they ask for it back!
Hell yeah, got the exact same.
Love the form factor, so incredibly nice to sit on the couch or in bed with it, stays super cool as well!
Mac OS felt pretty natural to me, i'm a linux guy and mainly use GNOME so the UI wasn't all that different for me and i still have the power of the terminal whenever i need it.
Overall, great machine, absolutely beautiful too.
@@metalspoon69 100% agree, it's excellent. Mac OS is great, I had some experience with it as a few years back I bought a second hand 2015 MacBook Pro. That thing was in pretty good shape and still runs well but they've clearly improved Mac OS a fair bit since then, it has so many features that I love. The terminal is excellent, I've learned all about Unix with this job and I obviously have a lot more to learn about it but I love it. I don't think I could ever go back to windows for a work machine now, it'd have to be either Linux or MacOS. I use Fish shell and I've customised my terminal to give all the syntax highlighting really distinct colours and it has made adapting to using Unix for day to day tasks so much easier. It's also nice having a different operating system for work and a different operating system for gaming, it means I can really disconnect the two and I don't feel like I'm at work when I'm sat in front of my home desktop, it's super nice. Vice versa - I know when I'm sat down at my Mac that it's time to work.
My last job used windows for everything and it'd get to the point where I'd get home, boot up my gaming rig and I'd type in my work password rather than my PC's password. I'm yet to do that since using the mac! 😂
Decided to splurge for the same model. It's not the top of the line 14" but compared to the old windows machines I was using this thing is 1000x better. I'll have to see how it handles if I start doing more video editing but considering it doesn't stutter when editing 4k like my old machines I'll take it.
I got the 16-inch model with the M1 Max about a month ago and I am absolutely chuffed with it so far. Even now, I am still mightily impressed at the fact that this stinking laptop is able to edit all my stuff for my photography projects and even some video files, at a speed that makes my high-performance desktop PC blush, **all while it's on battery**.
That battery also lasts stinking long. I actually also own a Windows 11 ultrabook that I use as a daily machine due to its small size and light weight. This big-chungus beast lasts longer on a charge **doing heavy edit-work** than my ultrabook, which I had to peg its processor back quite a bit to get 4-5 hours on a charge doing nothing more than web-browsing.
Like everything though, its got flaws. The notch doesn't bother me, but it's still a visual goof, the caps-lock delay on the keyboard trips me up so many times that I wished they'd just make it easy to tweak the behavior, and having the SSD be permanently soldered to the board is still a personal pet-peeve of mine (I work off an external SSD, so storage capacity itself isn't really an issue).
But taken as a whole, this is legitimately the best notebook that I have used and owned, by far. Just the fact that it is not only stinking fast and mostly quiet, but it does this without needing a charger (and lasts for a long while doing so) basically sealed it for me, despite knowing that there are other laptops out there which are probably a bit quicker. That and Windows 11 is not exactly where it should be, especially when Modern Standby continues to cook laptops in bags...
I had my M1 mac book air for 2 years and I absolutely love it and I'm someone who doesn't like Apple in general
They sip battery too! I plug my base MacBook Air into a phone charger here and there. Awesome machine
That is the crazy thing to me. I have a lot of hardware, and unlike Dankpods I don't use final cut, so I'm not locked to apple and although I do have a beefy desktop I use an old Thinkpad X as my mobile machine. But I know for a fact my next laptop is not going to be x86. We still have to see what AMD and Intel are able to do to compete with the M1 on power, they made improvements, but nothing revolutionary yet - So I hope they make some arm or risc type chip for power efficiency, and that Linux sort its battery issues out.
No joke man. Honest to gosh, I charge my M1 Pro laptop from a 5v, 500mA USB charger. It takes _a while_ to charge, and only really works if it's sleeping. But the fact that it's even possible is just insane.
@@nickwallette6201 right! I mostly do the same. My 12” razer got like 5-6 hours of use max and I always had to bring a charger strong enough to even get it to charge. Having the option to use a phone charger is unreal
@@prgnify dude, try parsec out! I daily drive thinkpad x240 and if I need some power or some gaming I'm streaming from my home pc. this parsec is awesome, zero latency.
@@DetroitTintStudio GaN adapter could help you!
Should be mentioned that the M1 has significant dedicated circuitry for video editing/playback, hence the great difference
Yeah, thats where it shines.
Yep I don't think the CPU performance is that crazy but the GPU and integration with final cut and stuff like that definitely is for an igpu setup
It does, but only for ProRes encode/decode, and I'm not sure he was shooting in that codec, so thats untouched additional performance if so.
@@ryandickson6761 correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the media engine decodes all codecs, as Asahi Linux can't playback youtube videos as codec acceleration is not implemented yet
@@joshua_thomas that has to do with DRM, not decoding the stream.
I was stunned when I upgraded from my 2015 model. Initially bought my mother an M1 Air to replace her ageing laptop, and I waited for the M1 Pro/Max models because I wanted the big screen.
I no longer need a tray between me and the laptop’s ass to watch youtube videos. I don’t need a charger with me at all times (I can be a pretentious coffee-slurping failed writer in a coffee shop for hours now) and being able to waste a few hours building houses in The Sims 4 without being warned to plug it in or feeling it burn my legs was a damn novelty (playing above 1080p and the fans barely made themselves known).
This is the first laptop from Apple in a while where I was counting the days until I could pick it up from the store.
yeah I have a 2015 model and its fine but it is so fucking loud I can hear it through my headphones all the time. it also doesnt let me use chrome without heating up. I am probably going to get a new one before I go to college next august bc I dont know if this one is gonna cut it honestly. I cant play any games, and it basically wants to kill itself when I plug it into a monitor or even open excel for my schoolwork
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I'm a photographer and I used to do all my work on an iPad pro (first the 2015 1st Gen, then the 2020 model), and finally got my first own laptop, the m1 macbook pro, 16 inch. I now live in a cardboard box and survive on stale bread because I have no more money, but damn, it was worth it. I'm glad I waited until this came out. Great video as always!
I did the opposite and had old intel MacBook Pro and since have switched to an M1 iPad Pro for my photo editing. The fan noise on the old laptop was unbearable and it would slow down quickly when doing more than a couple tasks. Blown away at the performance on M1 iPad. Would like to upgrade my computer too but I find myself using it less and less to a point that I’m wondering if i even really need it. There are still a few features missing from iPad but it is my go to 95% of the time now.
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i own a mac mini 2018 and is enuff for me but im angry because it would be cool have it...this video is stupid, dunno because i open it always for mistake plus his voice his frustrating
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"Windows is terrible and Adobe is worse" I could not agree more. Premiere crashes even while playing the video sometimes, nevermind when moving clips in the timeline around. I havve Ctrl+S PTSD, and press it every edit I make.
Damn right Adobe can go suck it, I have moved to as much FOSS software as possible though I barely do any video editing anyway.
I always hear that but I never got problem with premiere, maybe I'm blessed
@@fylezrancher5609 yeah same here, haven't had any problems with premiere or photoshop, same thing with windows (except that one time they uninstalled my gpu drivers)
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I found macOS to be more of a fiddle than windows but that's just my mileage. Everyone has different experiences.
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You just eloquently described my experience with going all out on the 2019 16” i9. The one time I splurge on the faster spec instead of the base model and it bit me in the ass so hard. The part where you get reunited with MagSafe, HDMI, and headphone jack almost had me in tears. Thanks this is the only tech channel i will ever watch again.
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4:35 I maintain to this very day that if Apple had given us BOTH a hard function row and a touch bar everyone would have loved it
I agree with that
I used to take a lot of screenshots/screen recording for my job and I gotta say, quickly being able to adjust what you wanted to do and where to save them all from the touchbar was glorious. An adaptive row is useful, but some things just work better with buttons (esc for example)
the touch bar isn't bad. it just shouldnt be a replacement to the fn keys. if it were a standalone device, it'd be amazing.
Yeah, I can get behind that. Then again when Apple made that thing they were in full no legacy support or compromise mode to the point of absurdity so no chance in them leaving the function row alone.
But then what exactly are we gonna use the Touch Bar for? Maybe scrubbing timelines in FCP
The M1 has hardware bits specifically designed for things like video editing. Kind of like how back in the day old game systems had special hardware to move tiles around the screen so they could scroll smoothly when PC's couldn't even with more powerful hardware. The Xeon is a more generally powerful chip, but specific programs can be built to utilize the special hardware of the M1 to basically cheat extra performance.
I'm not saying this as a knock against them, it's a goddamn brilliant return to form for specialized chips. There's a reason it was so effective in the 80's and there's a reason it's so effective now. Who cares if the NES can't do spreadsheets that well, it's built for goddamn Mario. Who cares if the M1 doesn't have the legacy support of x86 or a full CISC instruction set? It's designed for creators and it's a beast of an editor (and a solid performer on graphics too especially for its power draw)
I always feel weary when people use video renders as the benchmark for these chips since they have dedicated hardware to pump up that category, but then again if it does what people use it for in the real world then it works, doesn’t matter why it works at the end of the day
i really hope apple applies similar principles to more diverse fields like 3d rendering and audio work and builds in some co-processors for those types of things too lol
To simplify and shorten everything u said, Apple knows how to optimize their hardware lol.
I mean. You're flat out wrong. Your conclusion is complete bullshit.
x86 also has hardware encode and decode. And has for at least 10 years.
And they keep adding hardware encode support for newer codecs.
Also not a knock against apple, "influencers" are also often video creators so the product markets itself. But there are also many types of "creators" and m1 certainly doesn't tailor to all, or even most, of them.
Are you going to make your bloated electron apps or docker clusters on a mac that charges you up the nose for memory? Are you going to use develop android apps when last I checked emulators don't work and android studio barely does? Do you intend to roll the dice on whether you can get your Ansys suite running via emulation? Apparently it's even a pain to get openFOAM working (which I argue isn't a real alternative to fluent anyways. If you have to open your choice of cpp ide or editor, it's a different type of software. Alternatively I argue gcc is an alternative for openFOAM as well as literally every other piece of software). What about Solidworks? What about whatever 3d printing software people tend to use?
Sure there are solutions; you can just pay up, embrace the ecosystem and develop solely for ios (or plug an actual android phone in), change your entire workflow etc; but are those good solutions?
Afaik macs are, and have always been, great for video and music creators (+ whatever I missed) specifically. Saying they are for "creators" without qualifier is imo already buying into the marketing.
I got an M1 Air. Not a high-spec one, just replacing a 2012 Air. I expected it to spank the old Air. I did not expect it to spank my 2019 iMac. Blender render times are sickeningly close between the two despite the iMac costing nearly triple the price.
I am still on a 2012 i am waiting for the m2 macs
0:34 Mate, Vista was BEAUTIFUL, GORGEOUS!
And that's about it.
yea vista was good people say it’s garbage just with cap that’s all they can stay mad with vista
I totally thought apple silicone was going to be a repeat of the windows arm "budget" option but they really went above and beyond. I love it.
Apple can just say F you, adapt to my way of working. Microsoft can't because their main consumer base is not creators but enterprises. You can't force big companies and governments to recode their software or change virtualization methods because that costs a lot of money. That's why windows is way better at keeping old things working. Just look at 32bit software, Microsoft still supports it because it would be a pain for major corporations to change their software to 64 bits. Apple just said F you 32bit will not work anymore.
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@@mparagames Lmao
@@yourasianchum3659 hi yourasianchum
@@mparagames That'll be the next thing they come out with, Apple brand breast implants
For the touchbar, you can just swipe on the volume and brightness and it'll adjust them. No need to tap on them twice.
This. By far the most useful thing for in the Touch Bar
Thanks for that information, I did not know that.
Yeah, but it *is* annoying that you need to click on a tiny little [
You can also just turn on regular control buttons instead of the control strip, it puts all the buttons in the same order as the Macs without touch bar. In keyboard settings.
Pretty sure he knows it and the taps were there as slight hyperbole to show how obnoxious it is to always having to open the sound area
M1 MacBook Pro 13 is the first Mac I’ve ever had. It’s seriously a life changer. I’ve made so much more music and actually edited some videos for them all on the same little machine and it never stuttered. Love that thing.
Seen a lot of people using the volume slider like that on a Touch Bar but all you need to do is hold your finger on the volume icon and swipe left and right, it’s legit a lot quicker when you’re using it properly
Exactly! You can also just do a quick left/right swipe on the icon to change the volume by one bar.
@@maxksondzyk Didn’t know that one thanks! It’s not been life changing but still find it nice to have (other than the odd occasion it crashes)
And you can skip youtube ads too with the touchbar. I kinda missed touchbar now as for me its so versatile
@@ubayds It's only possible in Safari.
@@ubaydsyou can skip ads with control panel too, you don’t need the Touch Bar, although it’s a bit more quicker
The old i9 laptops have a *massive* asterisk next to their claims of having the most powerful laptop processor of the era:
While the i9 in there might theoretically be a speed demon, it's being strangled to death by that horrendously inadequate cooling system.
I'm curious to see how the M1 and i9 models would compare if you took them into a walk-in freezer and set them on blocks of ice.
Yep, it's unfair to say the fans on the i9 are screaming since apple did such a poor job of cooling it (as always). I wouldn't be surprised if they did it specifically to make the m1 seem impressive in comparison
Pretty sure dave2d already tested that by putting it in his freezer, I think M1 still beats it but the i9 perfoms soooo much better with actual cooling. It's almost like actually having good contact with the CPU cooler helps the CPU stay cool.
Me too! Out of curiosity only. Though then it could be useful to a niche market of northern Canadians that want to edit 4K videos while sitting on their porch.
@@TheTomco11 I doubt apple would knee cap their computers for years to make the M1s seem really good a few years down the line
@@TheTomco11 I heard rumors saying that Apple were working on switching to ARM for about 5 years, which alignes to the timeframe when macbooks started sucking.
What's also interesting is that, if you didn't know, Intel works with partners (e.i. Apple, Dell, HP, whatever) to implement features that they want (I believe the reason why Intel improved their iGPUs was because Apple really wanted it for example), but in 2017, because of lack of competition, and other unfourtunate events, Intel was stagnating, and couldn't make chips up to Apple's demand, yet Apple still decided to bang on their drum, and as a result you get these laptops with awful thermals (especially Macbook and later Macbook Air, which didn't even have a fan), just because Apple were stubborn on their design, while Intel couldn't/wouldn't provide chips that would be adequate for that configuration.
You know, when using the touchbar - if you simply hold and drag on the volume button, that will also change volume. No need for multiple clicks. Goes for most other functions too like display brightness.
Yes this is what I do!!!
If only there was some kind of text display/screen located above the keyboard for them to put that information
You can just hold down the button. 1 click.
In fairness, the Macbook i9's were really controversial at the time. They had insufficient cooling and thermal throttled a lot making the i9 chip pointless. You would have got the same performance from an i7 or i5. If you really want to see how well an i9 laptop can perform you would be better off getting a non-apple laptop.
That said the new M1 chips are pretty cool and have a lot of potential
I believe the 15” i9 was the worst and first i9 MacBook Pro. The 16” i9 (which he had here) was a bit better but still not great.
Not to mention that an i9 has WORSE single-core performance than an i5/i7 which I would argue is more important in most cases
Imagine putting an i9 and high wattage GPU in really small heatsink while other Windows gaming laptops with the same specs are still getting thermal throttled even with larger heatsink and much better cooling solution
@@sihamhamda47 Yeah, I'm pretty sure an MSI laptop with an Intel Core i7 & an RTX 3050 could do better than a MacBook with an Intel Core i9 & an AMD Radeon 5500M. And from what I looked, that MSI laptop is way cheaper than that MacBook.
@@pabblo1 a better example would be a laptop with a 1650 Ti or 1660 Ti or a 1060 or 1070.
Tbf Intel's skylake-based CPUs are nuggety today compared to Ryzen 5xxx and Alder Lake Intels
Oh man, this is such a precarious vid for me…I got a macbook pro a couple years back ‘cause I was just going off to college and my folks agreed that I could use one. That, and I wanted a machine that could handle all the drawing and occasional animations and screencap speedpaints I do (the old mac mini did NOT like downloading and rendering hours of footage), so we decided to invest in a higher-end pro and OH BOY, this lad can do it, but just like you said, it gets super hot, and I do have fans so it just sounds like it’s tryin to achieve takeoff when it gets stressed out. Even had it get into some weird overdrive where it heats up and the fans go crazy when I’m not even using it more than once. That M1 sounds soooo tempting…
I recently got an M2 Air and it's great, compared to my older Thinkpad it's 2.5x as fast while being completely silent. Yesterday I accidentally started a screen recording. Today I noticed because of the icon on the status bar, it recorded the screen for 17 hours straight and didn't get warm or slow down at all.
I don't do video stuff, but for software development it's a really smooth system.
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The M1s are great but it is worth mentioning that Apple killed the performace of the Intel chips with their god awful design. I think the I7s outperformed the I9s because it could just about manage cooling.
I had a 2015 MBP with an i7. (Or was it i5? I actually don't remember.) It was awesome. Near M1 levels of battery life doing casual stuff, and the fan rarely ever turned on at all. I could go months without hearing it. I think it was a perfectly balanced laptop, and I loved it dearly.
Intel also deserves some of the blame here. They needed to push more and more Watts to keep up with AMD and MacBooks have never had good cooling solutions. If your chip is a power-hungry beast and it's gonna be crammed into the torture cage that is a MacBook, then it's not gonna be a very happy beast
Apple spec’d intel to be able to handle Apples cooling system, and intel promise they would be able to handle it, and they didn’t. It was then 4 more years of promises from intel until Apple finally had enough and build their own processor design.
@@cockatoo010 See but Intel’s processors were a pre-made component. Apple was buying them as-manufactured, so they *needed* to design around it, and just didn’t.
@@nickwallette6201 damn, I have a 2015 i5 MBA, and it _maybe_ lasts 3 hours on battery. Less than 100 cycles on the battery too.
Wish I could get battery life like that.
1:24 This made me smile, because all I can imagine is your grandad lookin down in heaven and sayin "My little nugget boy made it."
I'm glad these M1 models live up to their performance because my mid-2012 with a 4 hour battery that weighs as much as a ingot is really starting to feel archaic.
Haha, 10 years is a good run, I think. The only Macs I own are the G4 Powerbook Aluminum and now a 2021 M1 MBP. The M1 stuff feels like the proper jump from the PPC days, where you get insane battery vs similar models (The Powerbook would get like 4 hours of battery life doing CPU video decoding even at 8-9 years old… I don’t think any of my other laptops from that time survived that long anymore, and heck, my x86 laptop at the time started to have build and battery issues…)
But seriously, the build quality, the keyboard, the speed, the silence, the screen. It just finally comes together in a good package like the days of yore. Now if we could convince Apple to add more sane UI controls instead of relying on 3rd party apps…
those things are great. props for keeping it going so long. i had a "macbook of theseus" type situation going on with my late 2011 model where i had swapped out pretty much everything that could be unscrewed at least once. ended up with like 5 partially disassembled donor macbooks in my closet by the time it finally bit the big one in 2019. honestly the quad core i7 in those things holds up remarkably well considering how old it is. are you still on an ancient version of macos or did you manage to get it to take newer updates?
Adding the fact that 4 hour battery is normal to some Windows laptop. Can't wait to get my hands on an M1 Macbook Air for my studies. 😅
The M1s are a god send honestly, especially when they get their $200-$250 discount. I also had a 2012 that lasted me till 2018. Bought the $1,500 13 inch M1 MBP on sale last year and I have zero regrets. I can comfortably edit my photos, listen to music, and watch 4K videos and movies without the laptop even struggling lol.
@@CaliKiid714 The Retina Macbook I got had a sticker price of about $3,000, top of the line back then, even with independent graphics it still looks and runs pretty good but I had to replace a bloated battery and thermal paste...the magsafe charger is original but its so chewed up you'd be frightened to touch it.
What's also really cool is that there are already people developing Linux for the M1 nuggets, the lack of Linux made them a total no-go for me, but you can run (slow, but working) Linux on them already and the GPU drivers are being written right now. The M1 is really cool, and that's coming from a passionate Apple hater lol
You can also install also slow and clunky, but working Windows using Parallels.
@@mihailoaleksic3330It’s not really that slow and clunky. I use it for some light gaming (FNAF).
@@mihailoaleksic3330why on Earth would you do that?!
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Many thanks dank pods for clearly stating the vid isn't pro apple, Everyone is allowed to like apple it's just when they make others feel bad for not being in that ecosystem, that turns everyone away from them, but good on you
Apple pcs are fine , its there iPhone and the right to repair and the locked down ios that's garbage
@@trayner And the fact that most of their products are way overpriced.
@@edwardtye4119 but not the laptops they are bang for bucks
@@trayner The thing is, it's not like Mac's are on the whole repairable either. I'm not going to get into a big slapfight about whats better, but if you don't like Android what other choice do you have apart from iOS?
I used to use android but jumped to iOS around the Nexus 6 and I've still got my Nexus 7 with Lineage OS installed.
One reason why I switched was that Apple supports their phones for much longer than any Android device, even googles own pixel. Part of the reason is that Apple has full control over the hardware and software, but a lot of android devices are beholden to the people who make the drivers for the chipset/modem etc. Also different carrier versions of the same phone can have updates delayed for whatever random reason. Google has seen this also and that's why they've gone to their own Tensor chipset so hopefully they can provide updates to Pixels for longer.
Thats just not a thing with iPhones and I know people complained that updates made phones slower but I pulled out my old 2016 SE a few days ago, updated it to the latest OS and it still runs fine. I'm not gonna say great because it feels slower than my 13 Pro but I feel like a 5 year old phone isn't gonna be as fast as a new one.
It would have to take something massive to get me off iOS because I love the integration with Mac and iPad that works seamlessly. Meaning when I'm at home I don't really touch the phone.
Right to repair stuff is shitty definitely and I hate their stupid handwaving program where they send you like 2 tonnes of equipment just to do a battery or we. Maybe just maybe in the future they might try and make a phone thats not assembled with like 9000 types of screws and everything glued together but I doubt it.
@@trayner I prefer ios so much more to android
Been uninterested in Macbooks for the trash specs for years, the M1 macbooks are the first ones that have really had me excited. looks like the new ryzen mobile processors might rival them though.
Intel and AMD already offer better chips than the M1, Intel offers a mobile 16 core now that pisses on the M1 like it's not even funny.
It's ARM, people are acting like apple took the fire from the gods but all they did was make a very large high clock ARM chip not unlike a cellphone where as Intel and AMD are still full X86-64 compatible IE can do so much more.
my dude you cant compare a 700 dollar macbook air with a 2k+ laptop with a 12900h
Monado buster 😳
@@deepbludreams Of course they do but you gotta remember that it took them 2 years to catch up
@@minecraft13149 And 12900h will sound like a jet engine taking off under load or throttle down to the performance of a much worse i7 if it doesn't. Still, at least the competition from all 3 manufacturers of CPUs means we consumers have more good choices, and chances are the next gens will get even better as a direct result.
What the M1 hides is a forgotten wisdom from the tech world: Integrate Hardware and Software well and do it once.
Now it is 80 different programs built by different teams for different problems bolted together by two guys in their grandmas garage fueled on kickfarter flex fund with optimization not even making the nice to have list.
Hell, indie devs make their products more optimized than _shudder_ Adobe.
@@GrayDaDolf because adobe just put in so much gimmick into their product that no one uses
Adobe newer programs (medium, and modeler) are pretty good as in they do what they propose without any frills or issues.
Can’t way for them to fuck it up by adding everything without concern for optimization or coherence
Integration means losing freedom for the user and locking them down to a walled garden, which for many is a complete deal breaker.
That basically means one hardware for everyone and while that sounds great, without any competition imagine the prices Apple would charge...
I'm mainly a PC guy because that's what's best for my needs currently but I have no loyalty to any company and I'm happy that Apple has knocked it out of the park with these M1 chips because now Intel and AMD (and NVidia to some degree) are actually putting some effort into their next gen CPUs. Competition is good for innovation. If the GPU in the M chips keeps improving as much as it has between the M1 and M2 I might actually consider getting an M3 Mac.
I'm a PC gamer and have a pretty nice setup. But when it comes to laptops I always go with a Mac. The M1 is amazing and the battery life is insane. Heavy workflow and I still can easily squeeze 10-12 hours out of it.
My usage exactly. I have my gaming setup but my MacBook Air M1 is around to fulfill basic tasks. I'm getting upwards of 15 hours of battery life, which is awesome.
Yup same, would probably never buy an M1 desktop but the macbooks are superior.
Have fun totally playing all your modern games on an iMac,
@@elibecton3558 You know that computers can be used for more than gaming, right?
@@Photo0021 I didn’t mean just games. programs as well
I got the M1 Air the month it launched as soon as reviews started dropping and it still has the aura of being brand new in actually every way, it far outlasts any laptop my friends have in terms of battery while being able to keep up with most things in its price range in terms of performance while having amazing quality. Thank you for mentioning this, although it took a while.
Of course your fiends laptop doesn’t have the latest 5nm chip techs lol…..
The battery is incredible. I can easily use my 14” MacBook Pro heavily for 2 full days
Mines awesome too. This guys noise.
I remember a 2017 macbook pro that I got for school that always got hot while trying to play certain games or edit videos, but then I got a basic M1 air and it felt so much faster than the 2017 pro and rarely gets hot. I was blown away by the M1's power.
My 2012 MacBook Pro recently has been causing me serious problems when it comes to heating up, and honestly I just can’t use it anymore. So I have resorted to using my 2006 MacBook as a ‘portable’ (it weighs a ton) work computer until I can replace it. It runs snow leopard and isn’t good. The new M1 MacBooks look incredible, I’m definitely going to save up and buy one. It would be amazing to have a powerful laptop that I can use for work!
I have an m1 pro. Lifelong windows user and even I love it.
Made the jump from a 2012 MBP to an M1 Air a few weeks back, genuinely night and day! I do miss the user upgradable RAM and storage though..
M1 Macbook Pros are the Windows killer. You'll never look back.
Geez there's a lot of wtf going on here. Get the m1 air with the big hd and don't look back. Around 1k$, look for sales, academic discount, whatever.
@@StrangersIteDomum yeah I do plan on buying one. I’m not doing great for money at the moment so it’s hard to afford, you know how it is.
My issue with apple, minus the scummy business practices, is just the hyper closed off nature. Mate I want to do whatever the hell I want to with my tech I own, not be forcibly held back by the manufacturer because they have a "vision."
Well I have good news because the Mac isn't closed off. Hell it's their only device that isn't closed off. You're free to install whatever you want, and do whatever you want with it. Some people made OS mods for it to make it more Windows like, others homebrew apps to make it more Linux like. Hell, you can even install Linux distros to dualboot onto if you wanted, as there's a popular distro for the M1 chip called Asahi Linux in development.
@@DrAnimePhD pretty sure he was talking about hardware not software.
Idk if this help, but one the M1 mais you can install Asahi Linux. It's still in it's early stages but it has a lot of potential
@@MuitoDaora hardware wise I feel like it’s best that it’s closed off. That’s what makes MacBooks last as long as they do.
Schematichs or death
really glad they’ve made them thicker, seriously considering a 16 inch mbpro. my 2019 15 inch i7 thermal throttles like you would not believe. In summer, even super basic projects are an issue.
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I would take the plunge and buy one, I've been dailying the M1 MBA since November 2020 and its handled everything I've thrown at it, which varies from word documents to programming on VS.
in the actual specs you'll find that the new 14" macbook pro is actually 0.1mm thinner than the old 13 unlike mentioned in the video 🤯
I got the 16" M1P MBP myself as a lifelong windows user. I mean, it bloody hurt buying it at just a hair over 4000 kangaroo coins (aussie dollars), but at the same time, it's honestly the best machine i've worked on in a while. The battery life alone is nuts. Editing performance if you use ProRes beggars belief, and with H.264 it's more performant than its Intel predecessors.
I mean, I rock an AMD Ryzen 9 5900X/GTX1080ti as my previous daily driver, which chews a solid 600W at full tilt, and this laptop _smashes it_ for video editing and rendering whilst chewing a tenth of that.
Hopefully they start making ARM processors with PCIe lanes that you can put in desktop machines. I really hope ARM or even RISCV pick up more in the computer market
Man I can't wait for RISC-V to be mainstream.
You need far more than that to get a working PC style Desktop.
First we need an ARM based Windows worth a damn, because otherwise we're not getting any mainstream hardware manufacturers jumping onto the ARM train
China already has ARM processors that accept conventional GPU through PCIE lanes. But those are for servers, and still way far behind M1's IPC.
You already can connect PCIe devices to RPi 4 CM (driver support just isn't there yet). Besides drivers you just need more lanes, it's already here
Using the same M1 16 MacBook for 2 years, it is the best laptop I've ever seen.
Last year, I got an M1 Mac Mini as my new main computer and I never regretted the purchase ever since. That thing is so fast and can handle the most powerful apps on a desktop while still being very quiet. I was just blown away by how much this can handle.
i have an m1 macbook air and I don't think I could go back to a laptop with like 3-4 hours of battery life that gets up to 100c, even if it's nice for cold winter nights to point the vents at my face.
I'm a PC guy, and I have an Intel 9700k right now, and I still love hearing how great the M1 chips are. Apple setting the bar so high can only benefit everyone.
Agreed. I don't think we'd have seen the RDNA2 graphics on APUs any time sooner without the awesome iGPU on the M1s. Also, Alder Lake U-series should be quite performant at like 18W so it looks like Intel is catching up as well.
@@DigitalJedi Arm still will definitely be the direction a lot of laptops will go towards IMO, the higher efficiency and Windows Support makes it great for ultrabooks and even small low cost machines, most chrome books are ARM now.
Desktops will probably be dominated by x86 for a good while due to the raw power for games and compute tasks.
You should seriously consider getting a M1 Macbook Air to use as a laptop/daily driver. You'd love it. They're excellent companion devices for the PC gamer and cheap as hell
Chances of me getting an Apple machine are low, but damn if I haven't been tempted by the M1 Air. That's their most impressive machine to me. Yea, it's not the most powerful of the bunch, but it's all passive cooling. That's just insane, especially in a laptop
Same I can never switch out of Windows there's too many apps that I rely on that are only on Windows (mainly an audio converter for iPod music ironically)
Seriously, go get an M1 Macbook Air right now. You won't regret it. Even though it's the cheapest and has no fan, it's an absolute sleeping monster with how fast it is. I've seen so many hardcore Linux fanboys circles switch to Macs all because of that laptop.
Also keep an eye out during Apple Events as the Macbook Air is expected to get a brand new sexy design later this year. If not, you can get the current model real cheap now.
@@DrAnimePhD I won't, for various reasons.
1. I like to game.
2. I'm a DIY desktop person
3. I'm not a fan of MacOS
4. Also not a fan of Apple in general (I'm starting to like Microsoft less and less too, but I still like them more than Apple. I have been think of switching to Linux, but music stuff has prohibited me from doing so).
@@Cosmstack Linux is great depending on the use case, I used Ubuntu for several years when I was just using the computer for internet and other more casual things. As I started my career as a Graphic designer 8 years ago I got my first Mac and have been loving it. I did use a windows 10 PC at a job for 4 years but that thing was horrible I'm glad I'm back to using a Mac everyday for my job using the Adobe suite Macs are much more reliable.
@@Cosmstack You can have a Macbook as a companion device to your DIY gaming desktop. A lot of PC gamers and even Linux enthusiasts are doing that. And what is it about macOS you’re not a fan of?
I was so happy when they put the M1 in the iPad Pro/Air(2022), but I wish they could utilize the ridiculous power that the chip offers! Sadly, the iPad is still being held back, not by hardware, but by software. It’s getting better with every update, but The whole process is taking too long. I really hope they add a good STL slicer to iPad one day.
If they didn't hold back on the software, then what's the point of getting a more expensive MacBook which performs the same as a cheaper iPad? If they did that, they'll lose sales on the MacBooks
@@lotfibenhammou916 Literally segment them by hardware then. Make it so that the iPads only get the processor of the previous gen and or give macbooks ultra by default. Its kinda stupid that they would decide hey lets shove the same SoC from our desktop/laptops into a damn tablet and just neuter the software because it would eat sales.
Instead of them tiering it by well idk, battery life or something. as far as I know iPad M1's only get 8-9 hours of moderate usage while a macbook pro can cram out a whole day with relatively careful usage.
They're adding MacOS to the iPad Pro M2
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It's easy - Windows for games, macOS for creative work (+ programming for Apple devices) and Linux for programming. That's what I've settled on during the years and I quite like this setup. There are cons and pros for all of the OSes in my opinion.
Only thing is Windows is great at games and good at creative work, but Apple is great at creative work and shit at games.
@@EddieTristes Yeah it is. I'd say even Linux is better at games than MacOS thanks to proton. But I will always prefer MacOS and iOS before any other OS when I do webdesign and wireframes.
@@blax722 True true
Yeah but it sucks having to do that. Mobility ends up becoming a real issue.
The macbooks are the only real portable option, so forget gaming if you invested in a good desktop pc and need to move around, and you need a good internet connection if you want to run linux on a server somewhere
@@ts47920535 Agreed. Luckily I don't travel much, usually only for meetings and such. I also don't play a lot of GPU demanding games so I can play on the move on my HP laptop. But having to switch devices sucks. And having to move files between them, especially my iPad and windows machines is sub optimal.
Lifelong PC user here too, got the most basic M1 Air earlier this year for iOS app development purposes, and it just blew my mind. It's not perfect of course, but it makes all comparable Windows laptops look like freaking dinosaurs. I actually do have a decent HP Zbook mobile workstation, but I'd much rather use the Air when out and about, no worries about battery life, no worries about blocking air vents when using in bed... But I really should have gotten the 16GB RAM model, that's kind of the real limitations to using it as my only machine, I need to run several large apps at the same time (Android Studio, Visual Studio, Photoshop, etc) and it struggles...
"Windows 8 is the worst."
yeah... it's was/is bad.
it almost seemed like was specifically designed for a tablet and someone went, "No...it'll be for EVERY computer."
It wasn't Vista or ME. Windows 8, at least 8.1 was good. It wasn't perfect but its a decent experience. Windows 10 and 11 uses so much Resources its a no brainer moving to Manjaro KDE.
@@credit0880 Vista was miles ahead of 8 and 8.1.
0:07 THE HOTWHEELS BUILD HAHAHAH THIS WAS PROBABLY MY FAVORITE UA-cam VIDEO I’VE EVER SEEN. THANK YOU FOR THE TRIBUTE TO THE GOAT
I always dreamed of getting a mac since we got to use them occasionally at school, and compared to my home computer it was like it was from a century in the future. Never had the money though, and as I got older I realised that they aren't really all they are cracked up to be. Recently though I have been hearing good news like this about them which is reigniting that dream. I would love to start creating something but whenever I try in windows the learning curve for the programs is just too steep and I get burnt out because it feels like an endless task for a mediocre outcome that will be an embarrassment to show anyone. From my limited experience with mac programs, it seems much more intuitive and visual instead of tiny symbols and walls of text and nonsensical errors.
As someone about to graduate high school, having Macs back in pre-3rd grade was so nice. Always seemed smooth and quality based vs the cheap feeling and sketchy HP computers. Unfortunately we only used them predominately for our tech class, and then the other schools didn’t really have them, and if they did I never had that specific teacher. We ended up getting a 13” 2013 Air, and that was ok but I didn’t really use it until about 2019, and it just felt old, dated, and not too great. I just upgraded to a 2020 13” Pro, and that thing is amazing. Not a fan of the Touch Bar, but the M1 chip in there does wonders. It’s made me want to look for a used iMac with a used Mac Pro as a home computer now, but unsure if the MacBook would be faster anyways…
@@TRD-FRS the base model m1 being faster than an iMac Pro is unlikely, it’s gonna be a close match though
@@liamsz it’s not the base. It’s the 13”, but it has the 8GB of ‘memory’ and 512GB of storage. But the iMac Pro would be a early 2010ish year (which I can obviously upgrade the internals if needed).
Well, in a way they were in the 2000s, they had the first *animated* compositor a half a decade before experimental efforts in Linux popped up and before a pre-reset prototype of DWM would function and then Compiz and Vista.
And PowerPC was badass too.
What ruined it was that Steve Jobs died and Tim Apple devolved into the meme version of Apple that people joked about during the golden age. Stuff like the one key macbook became an almost legit possibility, Apple remembered thin good and went head first with no sense of vision. Boneheaded things like headphone jacks being removed and i9s being poorly cooled and donglefest were thanks to Apple not having a damn clue Jobs actually wanted and just remembering he liked thin and pretty and memed it up to 11, and thus Macs became shit.
Ironically a fatter MB Pro with magsafe and so on feels far more Jobsian than any touchbar butterfly pile of crap.
The M1 Mac minis are amazing, both for price and performance. Should give them a look imo, especially as the MW chip versions are coming soon
I always had Windows laptops. Now, at 25, I got my first MacBook. A M1 MacBook Air. And honestly, I never want to go back. Its the perfect laptop for pretty much everything except gaming.
I own two. A 2011 that refuses to die, and a new M1 pro 14".
Both amazing machines.
Kept my mid-2014 MBP while daily driving my 2022 M1 MBP.
I have a 2011 book and adding any overlay on iMovie kicks the fans into panic mode within 20 seconds even when it’s not hot lol
I have the 2007 (Core2 Duo) and the 2015. Both are still alive, haha.
1:16 rest in peace dankgramp
I’m now in the same mindset with windows 11 as you were with windows 8. It’s just multiple steps back. I was in the market for a new laptop, so I bit the bullet and get my first MacBook. I love it and macOS is now my daily driver. I just use windows to play games now.
don't play games...game plays!!! :)
To be honest, Windows 8 fucking sucked. No doubt about it, worst thing they ever made. But Windows 11 feels like such a breath of fresh air to me, it feels like they managed to step a bit closer to Apple with this one, I love it
@@sanderlahuis5698 i totally agree, even if i prefer macos and apple.
mac isnt as bad for games as ppl say but i do understand cos a lot of games arent compatible
hm, i have yet to have any glaring issues with windows 11. honestly i find some things to be more intuitive than windows 10. but i suppose i dont have much experience on either
I went from a macbook air 2014 to the new M1. I thought it would be my traveling laptop for editing, but just like you, it completely blew the desktop iMac out of the water. It really is amazing!
Great job dank, I've been loving this type of content!
I convinced one of my former roommates to be an early adopter to the m1 imac way back in 2021 over the power/price/heat and most of all display. She was finishing her senior year of visual arts school and she literally thanked me every time she saw me 😂
Think about it, I basically bullied her into dropping 1500 bucks on a new computer when she said she was perfectly happy with her old one. And she couldnt have been happier
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Honestly I'm really happy for people in Apple's ecosystem, I'm glad they have a laptop that's really good. Even though I really hate Apple themselves with their shitty practices with Right to Repair and the insane markups they do for machines and even accessories. Though other companies are not all guilt free of doing similar things.
I'll be sticking to windows if I get a laptop, but hey, I'm happy for you all who like Apple's ecosystem.
Qualcomm, a major manufacturer for phone CPUs, has partnered with Microsoft to develop an ARM-based M1 competitor by late 2023. Can't wait for that!
Why not be in a better ecosystem? :)
@@utubekullanicisi there is no comparable ecosystem to the apple one tragically.
@@skyscall It will have to do a bang up job of emulating x86 or it will fall flat. Windows Store apps never took off, most applications by far are classic x86 applications.
@@lefthanded3446 Pixel can give them a run for their money.
I was never an Apple fan (quite the opposite) but I was THRILLED when I heard they were moving Macs to Arm. Its an excellent choice, the efficiency difference is very real and hopefully it drives more arm support.
Honestly, I'm hoping more computers become arm based.. Maybe fans will be a memory in like 5 years?
Honestly there's nothing preventing the industry to switch to ARM except lack of good chips, which is tied to lack of Windows because Windows equals people.
@@Astra3yt Windows has supported ARM since 2014, the original Surface run on an ARM chip from Qualcomm.
@@supermaster2012 I am aware but they never pushed the transition. To do that you'd need an actual proper working translation layer, like Apple has Rosetta. The Microsoft's one is still not great and the offering of native ARM apps isn't either.
@@Astra3yt the entirety of the UWP library works on ARM, so does WSL and WSA and all 32-bit win32 apps, which encompass the vast majority of the Windows library.
There is no demand for ARM in the enterprise environment, which is Microsoft's target demographic. For context, the amount of workgroup devices is miniscule compared to the amount of domain joined devices.
I liked my 2016 MBP. The feel of the keyboard was great. The touchbar was nice (you could change the volume without 2 button presses by dragging). Sold it in 2021 and bought an M1. Apple silicon is pretty impressive
Same here, I liked everything that most people hate about the 2016 MacBook Pros. I’ve still got mine but I upgraded to a 14” base M1 Pro.
May your grandpa rest in peace, I've lost my grandpa pretty recently and it really sucks, thank you for the great content
As someone who owns a late 2016 MacBook Pro, I can agree with a lot of things in this video. I still love using my 2016 because it has just blown everything else I've used out of the water. My old 2012 MacBook Pro, it destroyed it, my iMac from 2014, beat it, all of my windows computers that only lasted one year each, I've kept this thing running perfectly. I did have a speaker problem but Apple was like, "you're a month out of warranty but will fix it for free and cover shipping," like bro that was not what I expected. The only other problem I had was the battery life went down the drain but new batt in and it works perfectly again. If I had the money I would for sure upgrade to an M1 especially because I game on my Mac, and if you question why see the line about all my windows computers lasting a year at best, windows hates my guts.
will those games be native ports to the M1 or will they be running under an emulator?
@Mephitus Incognito Some I run on a VM but about 200 of my 210 game library would work on an M1. I’m confident in one using Metal, apple’s native process.
Switched from an 8th gen intel thinkpad to a base M1 air. Even with half the ram and no active cooling. It is just, so much better. Both small 13"laptops, just the differences are insane lol. Quite happy my T14S AMD was delayed so much, that I cancelled it for a macbook. That was cheaper too!
The m1 iPads would impress me if they had more pro apps
Basically a touchscreen mac
just port macos to it lol
It will never happen because Apple does not want to cannibalize the MacBook
Devs are working on it. Clip Studio Paint is on it, for example, and Adobe is reworking Photoshop for iOS. Biggest issue is the time it takes to rework these applications to work with iOS APIs and design guidelines. You don't want jank non-touch apps on it, nor apps using an 8 year old API that run like a potato.
look for Pro Apps out the wazoo after this year's WWDC
Yeah, as someone who doesn't like apple as a company, I have to say moving all their devices to ARM based processors along with unified memory was the smartest decision they made. The main take away for me between this video and the M1 MacBook Pros I deploy at work are that when the program you are running are optimized for ARM (apple application with some 3rd party support) they're amazing. Now Apple needs to fix the limitations on virtual machine support along with multiple monitors under HDMI.
My issue with Mac is more the lack of options when you have to look into issues and fix things.
At work we have to use iMacs, because we use a software that only exists for Mac. So many times something broke and there was nothing we could do. Was it the RAM? Was it the CPU? Who knows?
One time the OS died on us. The whole OS. Could I just write a new install on the machine? Of course not.
And don't get me started on the issues when software doesn't work. When it crashes without an error log. It's absolutely awful to work with.
Agreed 100%, BS like this is why I like boring normal PC's I can fix when something goes wrong that normally don't cost, and arm, and a leg. Far as the OS, Windows is just as annoying with Windows 10 being the last straw for me, which is why I moved to Linux full time, and I now use Solus Linux as my default distro.
Business users don't care about repairability. If you're on a proper SLA with Apple (or any other vendor like IBM), they'll just give you a new machine.
Likewise, reinstalling MacOS is trivial. You would've been back up and running in about two hours.
it's perfect for people that don't know better. WHat is the vaerage user going to do anyway, they can't troubleshoot a windows laptop either
Main reason I find MacOS painful to work with is I just know the internals of Windows and Linux a lot better, and they're both also a lot more googleable/stackoverflowable when something breaks. I've had enough Macs over the years to have run into "take it to the genius bar" as the preferred "solution" to a problem several times, and only after spending hours digging through forum threads on related issues did I find the actual, often fairly simple, solution.
@@marcogenovesi8570 No that's called being lazy, you can use another computer, tablet, phone, etc.. and Google the model of computer you are having trouble with if it's not working at all, and usually find the answer, and Windows has become a nightmare of an OS, with no hope of saving it IMHO unless it goes full open source.
The conspiracy theory is that Apple intentionally made Intel MacBooks progressively worse and worse (but not bad enough so that their audience would actually notice or care), so that the M1 variants seemed like massive upgrades (not that they aren't, they're great machines)
I have a MacPro(both trashcan and cheese grater), and it's still suck compared to my M1 Max.
I doubt that. Apple was definitely planning to switch to their own silicon anyways, but Apple never made the MacBooks worse, at least intentionally. Apple just got too caught up in form over function, and didn't bother to change the design while Intel chips were getting more demanding, causing them to throttle and heat up a lot more.
@Johnny depp she-hulk johnny depp bot lol
From what I heard, it was more Intel kept promising more efficient chips, then failing to meet the deadline or spec, so each machine had to have corners cut to account for the heat and power consumption of the machine, whilst fitting Apple's vision for the design. (Thinner keyboard, bigger battery, more fans) ...granted Apple could have just went with the current design back then and made it significantly less jank, but this is Apple we're talking about.
The reality is simpler, Apple knew that Intel was in a hurry with its CPUs, and since its engineers are shit that do not know how to dissipate heat, they decided to make the leap to M1, more knowing that the M1 would be unupdatable in the long term to intel comparison
Basically, Apple changed to M1 just to rip off their customers, because even the M1 is very poorly cooled.
As a windows guy, i must say that macos and apple computers are amazing for content creation (and dev as macos is UNIX based) but when you try to do almost anything that is not a ‘’mainstream’’ thing, the combo of ARM and MACOS completely kills it, windows is far more versatile (and open) than macos in my opinion.
As Mr Dank says at the conclusion: use Linux, you get the best of both worlds.
There's a chance that this will change with time, though - people developing more apps tailored to a RISC-based machine, as well as improving the hardware efficiency for more edge-case work
Define "mainstream".
@@JohnGardnerAlhadis The only thing Windows excels at is using obscure old software and games. Windows is built that way; to support old software. macOS and Linux in the other hand is moving. The latest macOS doesn't even support 32bit libraries anymore.
@@BoxOfBananas To a large extent, closed source software has been the reason that ARM hasn't been able to gain a foothold. It succeeds today only because of the open source base layer of Darwin (for MacOS) and Linux (on which Android and Chrome are based).
Dankpods: M1 MacBooks are nuts.
Apple (2 weeks later): yo M2 is coming out in a month
my regular m1 2020 pro still runs so fast (windows runs faster on a vm than my dads 2000 dollar pc) so I can’t even imagine the current m3 ultras
I made a similar upgrade recently, going from the MBP shown at 2:45 to the 16" M1 Pro. You'd think upgrading a laptop two years into its life to its next-generation counterpart would be completely unnecessary and excessive, but this particular upgrade made my i9 MBP feel like ancient tech right away.
Because apple specifically made the i9 bad
@@wayneyang7920 It wasn't even bad, that wasn't my point lol. Aside from the heat the 2019 16" was a fantastic laptop and did everything I needed it to in a thin and light package. But the M1 Pro/Max are in a different league.
i love how as i watch this my non m1 macbook is turning into a jet engine
My macbook air lacks a fan
@@Chris-zs5qb rip
Man I've been wanting an M1 Pro ever since they announced them. I just can't justify the price when I don't do editing or anything like that. I can also confirm the previous generation are garbo, I work on Macs at work sometimes. So many strange failures with them.
I don't do editing but I bought my 14 inch M1 Pro Macbook Pro because I wanted it's amazing 120hz 1440p display and amazing speakers. The speakers alone are the best in any laptop I have ever heard.
But it's understandable if you don't wanna pay $2000 just for an amazing screen and speakers. Well the good news is rumors are Apple is working on a non-Pro 15 inch Macbook for next year.
I still really want one, maybe one day I'll bust the buck for it. I actually kinda hate Apple but they seemed to have nailed it, just wish you could replace the drive in them like you can the old models.
It’s a great machine ..you can get an m1 air for cheap…I have the 16 but I do music and graphic design so I justify the cost
@@AvantleFox bro the drive is so fast it’s not even needed ahha . Over 5gb read speeds ..they also sell sd card adapters to expand the storage using as card if you want to go that route
Your vids are the best. To the point, no grey areas. The giggle factor is through the roof. If I'm feeling a bit down, you bet I pop one of your vids on. More power to you brother.
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I use an m1 pro for everything and it’s amazing. I also got it for an insane sale at only $1000. Had to save for a few months but it was definitely worth it
@Johnny depp “finally, it’s here” 🤓🤓🤓
While the M1 CPUs are definitely impressive for content creation (partly because of HW acceleration), I see a big problem with Macs using these CPUs - non-removable SSDs. I totally get why RAM is being soldered to the motherboard these days, in my opinion it's not that problematic, because RAM is hella durable. I've never in my life seen RAM fail, even on 15+ years old PCs. But soldering SSDs is very bad, because the SSD WILL fail, and when it does, your laptop is done. Combine this with swapping (especially Macbooks with 8 gigs of RAM swap a lot, although from what I've read, it has been somewhat fixed), and you may have your SSD fail quite soon. And I've seen a lot of SSD failures, some even after 1 year (in many devices, not just Apple ones).
I just don't understand why would they make this when we have tiny M.2 drives, which would definitely fit inside these laptops (for example an M.2 2230 is literally finger sized). These anti-consumer practices honestly kill all my respect of Apple devices and M1 CPU whatsoever. I recently bought a mid tier Acer laptop and immediately took it apart (as I do with all the electronics that I buy) and the SSD can be swapped by anyone able to hold a screwdriver in matter of minutes. Hell, they even instruct you how to do it in the manual! Combine this with ridiculous price tags for increased storage with these Macbooks (500$ for 1 TB extra where I live) and I would rather have laptop with slower and more power hungry CISC CPU from Intel or AMD from some other manufacturers, because I can at least change components in these laptops when I need to.
CISC cpus arent slow
Exactly. I am happy for Danks if he is enjoying his purchases cuz who am I to judge in the end but stating stuff like "ohhh try and see anything that compares to this laptop" when it runs greater risk of failure with no recourse is just asking for trouble if you ask me (see his experiences with the Air Pod Max where Apple products have failed him). While I am not an Apple fan and it would be easy to go "haha no gaming", I really do respect the older macbooks that can be repaired and upgraded and last for much longer thanks to Apple's streamlined OS. Taking the upgradability/reparability from the consumers does not outweigh the performance you can get out of the new fancy chip here and now. Because more than anything I feel like the Macbooks have lost more than it has gained in the long run.
Yeah, the new MacBooks are not made to sustain one's ever-changing need for technology. I have the 2021 MacBook Pro and it's impossible for me to upgrade my storage, which means that I have to resort to external SSDs and just constant data management. It's fine for now, but this is just inconvenient and not sustainable in the long run. But for Apple that inconvenience is ultimately benefitting their pockets and contributing to unnecessary electronic waste, which is why now I refuse to give them money unless I absolutely need to.
Well, yes, I agree that non-replaceable SSDs is an absolutely annoying thing, Storage is not a limiting factor (for me at least) as you can get Thunderbolt 4 external SSD enclosures these days that directly connect to the PCIe Bus akin to sticking an M.2 in a slot. Yes this does mean you have a dongle sticking out of your laptop, but generally speaking it's always good practice to keep your OS and your mission-critical data _seperated_ anyway, even in a PC. I keep all my data on NAS-Grade HDDs, and my _really_ important data that I need backups of in cloud storage, inside password-protected folders.
IT guy here. Ram is THE MOST COMMON FAILURE. Soldering it to the board is horseshit.
This was the first apple laptop I’ve own since clamshell in the early 2000s and I’ve been loving it
Volume slider with the touchbar is way cool what you talking about. You can set any volume level with one click by tapping and holding, then dragging it. It’s awesome because you get that “””analog””” level of control you don’t get with volume buttons.
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I needed a new laptop for my university classes, so I did the classic "find an old t430, slap some new parts in it, and run linux" strategy. I adore the thing
I respect that, I love think pads, literal lay, some new memory, SSD, and you got a workhorse
someone gave me an x61 and used that for my second term of uni. thinkpads never die
@@tokisuno got one t430 as my secondary
I own the M1 Mac Mini base model. Absolutely great bang-for-buck family computer. Quieter than a mouse and so fast doing basic tasks. The new Macbook Pros are way out of my budget but they look awesome.
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JUST got one of these last week and I can’t wait to use it! Unfortunately it doesn’t show up until July though 😵💫
I actually think this looks a lot nicer than the old ones.
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My work just sent me an M1 and I’m excited to try it! I absolutely hate windows for development so this is great
As a windows/android user this video was great. I am always interested in seeing how the other side lives in terms of improvements. I had an old boss who was in love with most of Apple's products. So much so he exclusively repaired them at our repair shop.
Same. I want a Windows laptop that's reasonably powerful while only getting warm under load despite having no fan. I've used macOS for some years and know its ins and outs enough, and ultimately prefer the Windows desktop experience.
1:52 dank pods was listing to scarlet fire
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I’ve got an M2 max at my job - the newest, not the 2021 with the 2016 body - and it just leaves me speechless on every big chore. It eats up everything AND does it on a battery the whole effing day. It truly is amazing.
Only sad thing is that Windows 11 on Virtualbox doesn’t work yet so you have to subscribe to Parallels to work with Windows software. Some pieces of software will not even work, but 85% of Windows software does.
it's been like what, 1 and a half years since I got a MacBook Air m1 and it's still fast as if it was new and barely becomes hot. I can't believe how good this laptop is, I knew I wouldn't have regretted buying it
I got my M1 Max a couple of months ago and other than gaming it is be best and most well rounded laptop I have ever owned. Apple is actually ahead of the curve this time by at least 5 years. It took 5 years for Microsoft to even try a force touch trackpad.
NOT A SINGLE WINDOWS LAPTOP has similar trackpad to the newer macbooks
@@Vfulncchl The trackpad on the surface studio is not nearly as good as the MacBook ones even the 1st gen 2015 MacBook Pro force touch trackpad.
Gonna be real with you chief, windows laptops have had force sensitive trackpads for YEARS. Synaptics trackpads have been able to sense force since I wanna say the mid 00's, but no one ever used it because it was seen as a gimmick.
Apple still does great trackpads though, credit where it's due. Windows laptops have caught up though from what I understand, and the trackpad on my ASUS absolutely would be probably the nicest trackpad I've ever used, including Apple's, if it wasn't for the fact that it's only 3 fingers wide LMAO.
@@Vfulncchl Pretty sure the macbooks trackpad is just machined and using their force touch, which is very nice.
@@lotto77102 i have an nec versa from the mid 90s that can sense pressure on its trackpad.... .....windows 98 loves it.... ...gotta love mac cultists...
I think most of the M1's performance comes from the optimizations made for it since it only is in a specific set of computers. Intel and AMD have to be versatile enough to do good in many different combinations of custom builds. Still, impressive results from the M1 and I'm sure prebuilds are going to try and optimize to similar levels.
It isn't the optimization, it is the architecture of the chip itself. Apple uses ARM processors which are the same as the ones used in phones, while intel and AMD use X86 which is much more ineffecient. The way the chip fundementally works is different which leads to the same thing being done with much less electricity. Only now have ARM chips gotten to the level of performing as good as X86 chips and apple is the best at them right now. Any other computer you can buy right now has Intel or AMD which cannot be as efficient.
It is the architecture plus the 5 nM process
it doesn't need to be optimized for specific computers, you can tell from how Apple is just shoving them into literally everything they sell and it just working perfectly
@@thefattmatt technically, the M1 is meant for x86 emulation since it has special hardware for Rosetta 2
@@Termsofseve are you genuinely saying they didn't optimise them lol man you're dumb dumb
I just want to thank you because of your video I finally upgraded from my 2012 MacBook air to a brand new 2020 MacBook Air M1 from Walmart today! I saw some refurbished ones for like half off and I considered returning it an getting them but then I realized they were intel so ill enjoy my shiny new toy!
Agree 100%, but to be fair Apple did Intel really dirty by making those laptops extremely thin and giving no chance whatsoever for the CPU to cool down. Now, the M1 will destroy the intel chip regardless but at the very least they could've made the Intel machines run much cooler.
They were probably expecting the chips to come out in late 2018/ mid 2019, so they redesigned the MacBooks for the m1 chip, it’s obvious that those designs were made with the m1 chip in mind.
But they really handicapped the intel chips though, and made some really stupid thermal decisions to probably make the chips look bad
yeah it's twice as thick ffs, you could cool a gaming laptop with that thiccboi
@@liamsz But don't the M1 laptops have the same stupid thermal decisions?
I had a 2017 15" and it was ok until one year in, where the display started leaking internally and had an orange splotch on the screen in a place depending on how it was positioned in my backpack lol. Lost a lot of color saturation too. Used it like that until the battery failed this year and got the latest 16" M1 Pro and its absolutely fantastic, what an upgrade! Especially as a video editor for my dumb car stuff lol.
The media engine's an absolute boon for us content creation types. Absolutely stunned at how well the MBP performs.
I'm a PC enthusiast so I was never able to recommend anyone buy an imac or macbook cause of how overpriced they were. The M1 macbooks are legitimately good value compared to other laptops, and on launch, compared to desktops. Now us gamers can say we can beat a laptop that isn't even competing for performance that also consumes a good 80-90% less power for the same price 😎
If Apple got their head out of their ass and fully supported Vulkan through Metal, Valve could port Proton to MacOS and the M1 machines would be decent little gaming computers.
@@l4ndst4nder Hi there 👋 Apple most likely won’t be doing that within the next 5-10 years, but we have MoltenVK which is Vulkan ported to Metal.
@@vanilla4064 Hello! And I agree MoltenVK helps, but it still doesn’t support the full API and my understanding is that Valve would have to create a custom version of Vulkan/MoltenVK to be able to hack together the missing components for Metal. And even if they decided to dedicated the time into the project, it would likely be endless bug fixing and challenging to maintain with changes on Apple’s end.
@@l4ndst4nder That's very true; sadly I don't think Valve will ever due to the highly probable diminishing returns on supporting mac. It's still much better than nothing though (not in regards to Proton which is amazing that they've gotten so far with it).
The M1 Max on my Mac Studio is a freaking MONSTER! I could have 20 Kontakt instruments running in Pro Tools at the same time and I’d STILL never hear the fan! What a beast!
I've thought about getting dedicated editing rigs in the future and if a laptop can pull that off, I can only imagine what the Mac Studios can do.
The M1 ultras in the new MacBook Pro‘s in some use cases out perform the highest end max studio granted these are workflows using Apple-based apps. However the fact that you can get performance at a cheaper price is phenomenal
As one of millions who worked with Windows their whole life, I'm really happy to say I've enjoyed having a 2012 Macbook Pro as a daily driver is amazing.
Bless Apple for including good features again!
I can't wait to buy a used M1 Macbook in a few years. Maybe even some good ARM powered laptops will be out by then too.
Never gonna stop using windows, Lennox is too hard to use and bum fuk nobody supports it
same, except that im daily driving a 2011. still works great :)
@@thealmightycrisprat awww hell yeah!
@@Zer0sVoid ikr, got it second hand dirt cheap in amazing condition, and I basically just downloaded a Catalina patcher and it works great! (except for minecraft minecrafts a lost cause but who’s going to be playing that on a mac anyway)
and the ports: it has magsafe 1 thunderbolt usba and the glorious *headphone jack* and cd drives which i use often for playing old cds and dvds that i have lying around
edit: AND THE GLOWING APPLE
@@thealmightycrisprat oh wow, I mine second hand too! Cosmetic damage, but still very usable.
The glowing apple really is one of the best parts!
I work in an education environment so we're 50/50 Mac and Windows. The M1 machines are super impressive. Intel machines feel like using a dinosaur nowadays.
On desktop environment m1 still far lag behind intel/AMD
@@D0x1511af how so? Can you be more specific? Which applications and use scenarios?
@@Mububban23For PCs, heat isn't really an issue, and you have multiple layers of cooling (which is the main reason why Intel CPUs run so hot, it doesn't expect to be ran in a laptop config)
0:07 well, wasn’t expecting shank to appear here.
I recently upgraded from a '16 model to a M1 at work, and I can confirm everything said here.
The M1 is delicious. Previously I'd start a clean build on our app and would browse Twitter for 8 minutes because it took so long to compile, now I can genuinely start the build, pull up the files I want to look at and the app starts on the stimulator. It's insane!
We also have MacMini's that do our CI builds for us. Two are on Intel, three are on M1. Basically, the Intels are bottlenecking us because their speed is so comparatively abysmal.
Only thing I don't love is how the M1 have a lot of software issues that as a developer aren't super fun to deal with. A lot of "if you have an M1 put this at the start of the file so it works" stuff, especially when working in bash.
Other than that, absolutely amazed by these beautiful beasts
I went 100% Linux by the time Win8 came along, not looked back. The few times I've used MacOS I've wanted to tear my hair out but the M1s look very tasty and while Apple aren't actively helping the project to get Linux running on it they are thankfully not getting in the way.
They aren't getting in the way of Windows running on M1 either, Microsoft's the only one who's being annoying about it seeing as they _really_ want people to buy their Surface devices.
The fact that Boot Camp is still hidden in Monterey's code shows you that they're at least cool with other OSes running on their hardware, after all they make their money both from hardware sales _and_ from the selling of services like Apple Music and Apple TV.
I honestly wonder how much works goes into editing these videos. The charm of the videos is from the dialogue. There’s obviously good writing and research that goes into them. But I feel like he could edit on a potato running iMovie and still get the same watch time.
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Bought my wife and I each used 13" MacBook Pro's from eBay 5 years ago (2015 i7 16gig Ram 500gig SSDs). Both machines looked like new and have been flawless. Did I mention they were dirt cheap (just a few hundred dollars each)? Magsafe, lots of ports, earphone jack, SD slot. We love them.