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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- The folks over at @gameinformer got to chat with the D&D team and provided us with a ton of information about the 2024 Player's Handbook! Not only did they show off a bunch of art, but got some insight and new information as well!
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Very happy to see Aasimar be included in the book. We had Tieflings, so it makes sense that they are included as a base race. Never quite understood why WotC was trying to make a whole new one when we had one already that fans liked.
It always struck me as weird that we got and not the others. Maybe it's a better idea to have one "race" but celestial vs infernal subsets
moneygrab...
That was supposed to be their Beast Kin catch all. I don't know why they insisted on making them divine. I think they were taking inspiration from pantheons like the Egyptian gods that have animal heads. If they leaned more into nature magic and animal abilities (which they did the second one in their second iteration) I think people would have been more open to it and there were wouldn't have been so many Aasimar comparisons.
Its aasimar and goliaths added now right?
@@hypnosemblem8829 Along with orc. No more half species unless you flavor it that way. I'm working on a system where you can combine any two species mechanically and not just flavorfuly.
1. I'm calling it 5.5 don't care what they say. 2. i think its a good thing that its mostly the same team from the 2014 books because they are able to look more critically at what they got wrong the first time.
I'm calling out 7.2 myself
It's a new revision. It's just marketing. So yeah. 5.5 is just as good a name as anything.
It's basically 5.5e
This feels EXACTLY like the refresh we got from 3.0 to 3.5
No it doesn’t
Agreed, it's basically 5.5 or maybe even 6. Would like to have Johnny explain his thoughts. But having played 3 extensively and then switched and played 3.5 extensively and then Pathfinder, these are all the same sort of tweaks between those editions. Minor changes to feets, skills, class, etc. - even basing - it was all just enough to make using a 3e version next to impossible or at least very frustrating with 3.5. Enough so that our entire group shifted over each time and I suspect that we'll see the same happen whereby everyone at the table will need to use the 5.5e version of the game and if the DM wants to run an older 5e module they'll need to use the 5.5e version of the monster or convert the monster by hand before the game.
@@Johnny5isstillalive yes it does
It feels like the change from AD&D 1E to 2e. Or the change from 2e to Revised 2e (1995).
There were far more changes between 3.0 and 3.5 then between 5e and 2024 5e.
More like 5.2e actually.
@@blackshard641Oh no it doesn't.
A few years back GameStop had announced that it would start carrying D&D 5e products and possibly other TTRPGs. They also announced that some locations would be expanding to host in store ttrpg and MtG game nights. So, Game Informer makes sense, with them transitioning to be a store for video games and ttrpgs. Especially with most video games going to digital releases. It opened more space in their stores to carry other products.
I'm hype for what Perkins delivers for the 50th anniversary editions.
He knows corporate has ruined the image.. Its all up to the design teams.
Mmmm Perkins and his little woke army did plenty of damage themselves.
@MattHolstein that's true. Personally I'm very much a Liberal but it still makes me cringe to see people go so hard with the evil race stuff... like no they aren't based on real races and yes we are aware they aren't all the same and you can be a good drow 😅
After Verna I have no real hope he does.
@@Rick.Grayson is Vecna bad? It looked pretty good ngl
Just a heads up, you can no longer pick and choose what you want to buy from a book on D&D Beyond. If you want even one thing from a book then you have to pay the entire price for the full book. You can also no longer preview the individual things that come in each book. So you have no idea what you're actually buying when you buy the book. You would have to look up the contents of the book through a third party source to have any idea what you're actually buying. This has gotten almost no attention in the D&D youtube circles. Wotc really snuck this one in under the radar.
They are not gonna get a lot of money from me anymore. That's for sure.
Yeah. Just like other rpg’s.
@@sanderpio8234 Is your point that it's okay to make things worse for your customers. As long as other companies already do it that way? Seems like a strange argument to make
@@general_malarky no. It’s just that WOTC can’t do anything good these days. What ever thing they change half the internet complains. If a la carte didn’t exist and they rolled it out, half the internet would be outraged by these’micro transactions’. I guess the a la carte option is making not enough money to further make all the trouble around it. That’s why you don’t see other publishers doing it. At least WOTC gave it a try.
@@sanderpio8234 I understand why someone could be frustrated with the greater D&D community. But this isn't a hypothetical situation. This feature existed, it made the game more accessible and affordable, then they took it away. It's worse for their customers now. As a customer, It's okay to be upset about that. I don't think it's helpful to tie this into a separate discussion about one's feelings on the D&D community as a whole. We can't solve every problem in the community at the same time. Point is, this happened and it's bad for the people who enjoy the app. It's a decision I really wish they'd reverse
If the ASI isn't tied to something in character creation it will be forgotten by newer players. Tying it to Background just puts it somewhere where it will be remembered and in the background section they have said at least that it will then be free for people to put it where they want. Hopefully that is true.
Background *is* character creation. Personally I don't see the need for it to move from race to background but I have a good idea as to why it moved.
I think it’s absolutely a good thing to have the same lead designers when what they designed before is a loved game and product by so many. Having them working on the new core books is how you get an even more refined game.
I like them finally somewhat fleshing out tools and crafting!
The new art is really jiving with me. If the quality is going to be this high throughout the three 5-point-whatever books, I'm excited. With a mandatory "WotC terrible" caveat, I'm cautiously optimistic.
Me too. I already bought into ToV and a few other systems, but if they really did a considerable polish on DnD, I might have to try running/playing in it still. I am not happy about the corporate shenanigans, but I respect the work and what the design teams and artists have produced here. I think it speaks highly of their efforts when even former staff, who were laid off last year, have still said they were excited for these books. It’s a complicated time to be a DnD fan.
The art has greater use of negative space and more defined lines where 5th has had more zoomed in focus on characters with a flatter painted look.
still sounds like 5.5
'50th Anniversary Edition' would be a fitting name. Going forward, I hope they also make DnDBeyond a hub for previous editions as well.
I think most of WotC recognizes the value of having 3rd parties invest in the popularity of 5e, and those who failed to recognize were discredited when they tried to squeeze those 3rd parties several months ago We now see D&D Beyond investing in third party stuff, so keeping the new stuff reasonably compatible with the old stuff should be profitable. Said the guy on the internet who never took a business class.
I mean, at a surface glance it makes common sense xD
Woah 3:18 seeing some Nerd Immersion lore, never knew you were an artificer irl
the artwork is amazing
Wtf is wrong with the dragons hand/leg on the full cover artwork?! It looks so awkward and out of place!
ASIs are tied to background but the default background is "custom" anyway so it doesnt actually matter
I’m glad they said Gary Gygax and Greyhawk without a snide remark or asterisk.
Why would they?
I wonder if classes will get updates again. Since newer sorcerer subclasses got spells, it’d be nice for older subclasses to get spells added or something. I found some really good homebrew that fits with the newer subclasses, but not every DM likes homebrew content. Also wish we could get a werewolf race in the same vain as the Gothic Lineages that isn’t OP af. Plus more general Beast races (like dogfolk)
I think Wild Magic & Draconic Sorcerers will get spells added given Aberrant & Clockwork Sorcerers do and are confirmed to be in the book.
Given the Article said new races LIKE Aasimar, Goliaths, and Orcs, the way it was phrased made it sound like those where just an example of new races in the PHB, so its possible a beastfolk race, with a dog/wolf subtype could be in it, along with other possible races like Genasi & Gith. Just speculation on my part. Haregon (Rabbitfolk) are in PHB one internal piece of PHB art, so that could be a hint of that.
I agree the next book after the core three ought to update all the subclasses not in the core, add fears, and backgrounds and finish the revision.
Technically the next book after the core books came out last year as Monsters of the Multiverse is technically the Monster Manual II of the new books. So they really need to update the cover of that book to match the rest of them.
Hey Ted. It’s really cool that you pointed out that gold dragon looking more feline. I had the opportunity to talk to Todd Lockwood. He and I talked about monster anatomy for hours! He told me that when they were trying to make dragons look different from each other, "Gold"dragons were made to look more feline! Good catch!
Catfish whiskers, it's a catfish dragon.
@@realRYUxOHKI specifically he flipped to the image of the gold dragon in the 4th edition monster manual. He pointed to the dragon’s hind legs and asked me what I saw. He told me “it’s a cat” and we implemented other animals in its over all anatomy as well” we talked for hours! It was the BEST!!
The naming convention makes sense when you understand how version control works.
A major version (the difference between 4e and 5e) has very little to no compatability with each other. The underlying math is completely incompatable, even if the user interface is largely the same. They have different engines.
A major revision (x.1.0) changes the substructure of the game and makes it a different experience, but the underlying math is still the same. It has the same engine. If you plug in old adventures, their monsters will still hit as often and do the correct percentage of damage.
This upcoming version of DnD could be correctly termed 5.1e, because thats how version control works.
thank you for this bit of sanity
Two problems with this take. 1) This isn't software and has never followed software version control. Maybe it should but it hasn't. Based on D&D version rules this would be something like 5.5 or 6.0. 2) If we did follow these rules then arguably Xanathar's would be 5.1 and Tasha's would be 5.2, etc. We have several books now that have added subclasses, feats, spells, etc. By my count this would be 5.7.
You can very easily use 3.0 resources for 5e and probably change very little.
The bit about NPCs in the Monster Manual is what I wanted to hear the most. That's EXACTLY what I want to hear. I want to paste on Fire Resistance and _Fire Bolt_ to an NPC and say it's a Tiefling or give it _Minor Illusion_ and _Speak With Animals_ and say it's a Gnome AND be able to do so at any level of play. And that's just on a personal note. *For the game at large, it means Humanoids can have a stronger presence in encounters.* You won't (necessarily) have to worry as much about how many Resistances or Immunities you'll go up against, unlike with the plethora of fiends and elementals and undead you usually fight at higher levels. Even better, you might be able to reason with these people. Or maybe they're even worse murderhobos than the party? Who knows, power corrupts and all that! What a gigantic relief this is.
I mean... You could use the references in the PHB to help create your NPC.
Just a difference if they are minor with
@@CyFr I already do that, but the NPC stats don't cover every possible level of play. That's what I'm getting at.
@@clarkside4493isn't it very simple to create an NPC for any level of play? If they are a big character roll them some player stats and a player sheet, if not crank their HP to something acceptable and give them abilities and damage that would reflect the level of play like *any* encounter.
@kitnal4143 I would do that for significant NPCs, but not for more generic ones because that's a lot of trouble to have to go through. Plus, we need parameters for NPCs that don't hinge on class levels.
Like, if I make the Gladiator NPC an Air Genasi, I have to decide what level he counts as for his _Shocking Grasp_ and whether or not he has his other racial spells. Then I have to decide how to incorporate those spells into his attack routine, because otherwise he likely won't use the features I gave him.
The NPCs don't have class levels, and recent monster stat blocks will give a class as a tag (meaning they count as that class) but not a class level nor abilities traditionally from that class.
For custom monsters from scratch, I want a template that is easy to tweak for each challenge rating. The tables for making monsters right now are a mess.
@@clarkside4493 fair, if they aren't significant I just make stats up on the fly before I roll. "Yeah a +6 insight makes sense, they are a shrewd buisnesskeep
I'm also noticing that Gold Dragon is having a lot more Asian Dragon type aesthetic with antler like horns, long serpentine body and more furs/hair/beard, which the feline type feature is part of it as Asian dragons are meant to be more Chimera like combining features of different animals.
💯 you can also see this more clearly in the new alt art cover from the Polygon article. The gold dragon has that aesthetic now after a redesign it seems. It looks 🔥
This is 5.5. It's EXACTLY the same as 3 to 3.5.
11:30 poison in older editions was alignment locked. It couldn’t be used by Good characters so a Metallic Dragon can’t have poison breath because it wouldn’t be Good which is “necessary” for Metallic Dragons. And that’s been carried through the editions as legacy
Kinda funny since being lit on fire and burnt to death or dissolved by acid and the other elemental damage types are all basically torture.
@@423RedWolfYes, but those you can see coming. Poison is covert. It's fighting dirty.
i like monsters coming in a variety of CR. it would be nice to get monsters listed by ecosystem so DMs can make encounters specifically in a swamp, underdark, feywild, cave, forest, sewer, catacomb, jungle, etc.
That’s in the current DMG, will probably be in the new one as well.
I wonder if they're going to add a new style of official character sheet to go with the updated rules
It definitely needs a rework if they want to make it easier for new people to pick up. Still better than the 3.5 character sheet I started with, but there is a reason so many people sell alternate character sheets online.
Man, I was really hoping that the artificer class would be added to the new rulebooks, but I guess we'll just have to stick to Tasha's Cauldron of Everything for the time being.
Depending on the crafting, I have a feeling most of the artificer actually survived but was stripped away into the component parts. I've never played an artificer but to me it felt like a wizard who was more into building things than casting spells.
Funnily enough I am the opposite to you when it comes to the cover art. I don't like the "muted" "blurred" effect in modern art. I prefer the crisp clean art like on the 2024 covers. I like the drawing but I would rather it be crisp and clear.
Aasimar
Agreed.
It looks like it is going to be really good. They seem to want to be like WOW, where they just update the chassis without changing the core. I agree the backwards compatibility will be for adventures and the base d20 system.
I'm pretty excited for this... Sounds like a good refresh 5.1 that fleshes out the missing pieces and mechanics, gives more options for monsters and settings at different levels of play, and cleans up the disorganized mess! Even if I largely keep my campaign to stock 5e rulings, just having a phb that my players can actually use and reference without having to flip through 3-4 books or staring at their phone or tablet will help speed things up and promote engagement at the table!
Thanks for the great review! I'd say the new artwork is more painterly (as you said, fewer crisp lines) and with more verisimilitude (more life-like). Astonishing that they're applying that style to the old cartoon characters! That's a pleasant surprise, anyway.
I'm really excited that they're releasing updates to the Creative Commons SRD. I hope the community encourages them to keep that up!
Warlock of Firetop Mountain cover callback with the PHB dragon.
I think I will call this printing D&D 50. I know that might be confusing as it sounds like there are 50 editions, but this is so much a celebration of the 50 years with a new set of core rules. The multiple worlds from over the years in the PH and the OG world Greyhawk being lovingly detailed in the DMG just makes it feel like the name of this anniversary edition should reference those features.
I really think you are 💯 correct. They should have leaned into the commemorative nature of this printing and called it the 50th Anniversary Edition or DnD50 or something similar. From a marketing standpoint, maybe that tests poorly or would throw off new players? Otherwise it would have fit the themes, art and even the content of the books better than the Fifth Edition 2024 Rules Revision title.
I'm with you.
the thought of a special edition cover sounds great but I was originally going to wait for the core rule set to own them physically because errata happens
I figured they would go back to greyhawk after the last couple acquisitions inc games. But if they arent gonna use old lore they should just go back to their points of light if they want the dms to just make everything up themselves.
I think they are super hesitant to go back to anything from the 4e era, especially the Points of Light revamping the universe. Even if that was almost entirely on WotC forcing creators to retcon and redo stories to fit the new lore they wanted and not specifically the idea of the Nentir Vale/Points of Light, just the idea of "Points of Light = 4e = ew yuck, get it away" is enough.
In my opinion that would be a terroble idea., outside of places like Ravenloft. I want to play in lands/settings I love. 5E was absolutely terrible about introducing settings, with Dragonlance being devoid of 99% of it's content. Planescape and Spelljammer are close to unplayable and unfinished. Ravenloft sort of includes the setting through Adventurers League, sort of, and that second book, (can't think of the name) offered a primer, but even that was a watered down bare bones view.
Personally, I dislike FR. I wouldn't say hate it, but I'm not a fan.I am cautiously thankful they are going away from it. I have always felt Greyhawk was a much better setting, particularly as an introductory or baseline one. I get it is not the main setting here, but it would work very well as one.
I would assume that Game Informer would have a wide reach, especially with console gamers who may have played Baldur’s Gate 3. Capturing new customers has got to be a major priority for Hasbro, so this move makes sense.
13:10 I believe the hooves and unguligrade stance is part of one of the Tiefling Variants in the old Sword Coast book.
I'm excited for sure. 100%. I'm most excited about the additional Monster options honestly (although I can modify difficulty in minutes per monster), and it sounds like the DMG will be much more approachable for new DM's, and the additional refinements to the PHB to flush out imagery of weapons, actions for tools, and crafting rules were SORELY needed. All great stuff. My table play tested the majority of the One D&D changes, most of them were good, some were not, and those seem to have all gotten dropped. So, yeah, looking really good...
correct me if I'm wrong but there was an interview by Todd Kenreck with Jeremy Crawford sometime last year or the year before that where he explained that oneDND was about addressing the edition issue, that from here on end it will just be "Dungeons & Dragons" no 5.5, 6th, etc. and they'll be referred to the different editions by the year it's released so 5th ed is the 2014 release and the next one will be (or have been) referred to as the 2024 edition
24:30 AFAWK Ted it will be. The backgrounds provided are examples, and you're supposed to make your own.
D&D goblins have been yellow/orange since 1E. "Green goblins" is from other media, such as Marvel Comics and Warcraft.
Well, Batiri are pale green.
I would say it's an evolution of style, considering how much of 5E style Jacobson has painted already. This is very nice.
Its the usage of pastels in the front cover, it gives off a much more lively feel. More fantastical.
The names of the D&D cartoon characters that he got stuck on: Hank the ranger, Diana the acrobat (monk?). Would like to see Eric the cavalier (paladin?) and Sheila the rogue.
I will say for rulebooks, the most important part is helping new players get a handle on the rules right away. My daughter started a game with some friends recently and they didn't know to add Ability modifiers to proficient attacks. The actual rule for that isn't until page 200+
Acrobats were a type of alt Rogue when they came out, and Cavaliers in 5e are a fighter subclass, that fights with Erics abilities more anyways.
Sheila could be there, just with her cloak up. Eric was probably captured by bully wugs and dragged inside the temple. Might explain why they are in no rush to get inside. That’s my head canon any way.
@@matthewsnow-zj1cu - Story checks out 😄
The word is “painterly”
So why I feel a that having the same design team as original 5th edition is a boon going into whatever they call this edition/rule change, it does make me wonder if certain mechanics will be skipped over because of bias. if they had a few fresh faces in addition to the previous team id be happier. No artificer in the new core rule book is a dumb decision though
Looking at that artwork with the D&D cartoon characters, I think the monsters depicted in it are an homage to the original Monster Manual cover art - both have an owlbear, pixies, and goblins. Instead of a red dragon and a roper, this artwork has a red pseudodragon and a mimic.
The artwork looks really pathfinder-esk.
I don't see how they can be making this many differences and still have it compatable with the previous stuff, let alone balanced with it.
I am moving to other games. I don't like Hasbro and I think there are better games out there.
I do hope it is actually ok though
it might be crazy what about to say, heresy even, but I think black dragons should have purple colored poisonous breath and green dragons should have the acid one. 🤔
In one the pieces of art, the one with the Silver Dragon, there is a Haregon.
It makes me wonder if their solution to the Aardling issue was to just split it into two species, Beastkin (with Tabaxi, Haregon, Tortle, Lizardfolk, Kenku lineages) and Aasimar (with Celestia, Elysium, and Arborea lineages).
I am probably the only person who thinks that all those lineages are just not needed. They all end up being which spell do you want.
@@bradleyhurley6755 For minimaxers maybe, but the flavour and story of them matters to me and others.
@@gyorgyor7765 I think you can do that without the lineages. Like you can have Aasimar that come from different places without saying depending on where you live you know a different spell
@@gyorgyor7765you don't need to be told what lineages you can go to flavour your character that way. It is purely a min-maxxers dream at this point. You choose aasinar in base 5e, okay, now you want to be from Arcadia? Fine- make yourself a rabbit angel.
Damn it! I was all "I have my 5e books, I am good, screw WOTC." Now, I want to get the new books (or at least the DM side: DMG+MM.) Thanks for the update , Ted!
I'm still annoyed they did not have Artificer in phb. Why. Just roll all of the classes into one book. and this is the best time to rejigger the oddities or problems such as smoothing out alchemist
I think changing race to species is just stupid it's the same thing, just different wording and I will not be using species. I will be using race
Why did they do 4/5 of valors call? Seems strange to drop the white wizard for another wizard.
Judging by the art direction and quality, the new stuff seems world class. The big question is will the content be a fraction of the art's quality, or just a suite of minor balances and revisions buried among the lavish revised art pieces? Honestly, they really need to make a good first impression with the new PHB, which seems a bit trickier based on what UA stuff we've seen. The DMG has nothing but room for improvement, as even WOTC acknowledged most people were just using it as a glorified magic item collection tucked away in a useless book. And there's also tons of room for upgrades in the new MM: even if they don't dramatically improve the often boring mechanics of so many of the monsters, rounding out the numbers of lacking creatures like Fey and Oozes will give it some good new features to boast about. Whereas the PHB...we'll see.
Yeah. The hard part is so many 3rd parties have produced good monster volumes too in the interim. Kobold Press’s own system, Tales of the Valiant, has a lot of positively implemented unique mechanics for each monster. MCDM Flee Mortals took some 4e style sensibilities and custom kitted them onto 5E monsters in a fun way.
I’m sure the DnD design team is aware of all those products and are seeking to improve the monster action variety. Let’s hope we see something like it in the new MM.
Not the first picture but the second one with the adventures in the jungle setting, they definitely look like the 80's cartoon characters. Noice
Because they are.
awkward to talk about having the same designers on the team when Mike Mearls is gone
DnD is the world’s most popular. DnD is far from being the world’s greatest rpg.
The art highlights the "Party" experience & I LOVE IT!
I think its great game informer is being used hopefully it will reach a wider audience
Very Teen Titans Go! - "I wanna ride a dragon!"
I don't see why they would avoid calling this 5.5e, it still signals it is 5e, just an update.
cool review, thanks. maybe get an art expert on to talk about the art sometime
Oh man I’m super excited for the update rules and art!
Why did Hasbro use Game informer? You're looking for reasoning from a company that makes very poor business decisions in relation to DnD... A la carte gone anyone?
Wotc prints books and game informer is still in printed format. Idk just pulling at straws
@@jefferystafford9657 great for those of the public without dyslexia and dyspraxia. DnD beyond has opened the game wide up for us now we don't have to calculate rolls and saves. Means we can play without the stress
@@jefferystafford9657No need to grasp anything.
Baldur's Gate 3 sold close to 20 million copies. Just go to DND beyond forums, it's full of gamers asking how things work in the actual game.
Why wouldn't Wizards go after an untapped audience that is an order of magnitude bigger than their existing one?
GameStop wants to branch into tabletop gaming
Maybe it's one of those "I know a guy" thing. Also, maybe the writer reached out to wotc, and they took the opportunity?
It's both new and backward compatible is a bit hard for me to swallow. Also considering this is exclusive access journalism for Gameinformer, I would take the super bright portrait being painted here with some grain of salt. As an enjoyer of the game I hope it's good.
The art looks more like oil paintings and colors schetchs. Instead of digital art
As someone who DM's in Greyhawk thanks to Ghosts of Saltmarsh it's nice to see more love paid to the setting. And having a player who I made the daughter of Melf, Queen Yolande's cousin; it was really nice seeing her on the cover. Granted due to her backstory merging with another player's, Melf is currently dead in my world.
As long as it keeps spitting out money, they will keep beating this horse, once it stops we will see 6e
Everything is very teenage, faries, marvel. Cuddlly owlbear & goblins in PJ's.
I always assumed there wasn't a Good dragon that used poison damage because poison has an Evil connotation. But they could still give us a unique one for Good, such as thunder or force maybe?
We should call it 5 A, For the Anniversary edition.
We really shouldn't. It should definitely be 5.5 or 6th. Trying to figure out the vampire books is a mess, and I think shadowrun has gone on some crazy convention too that it is just impossible to figure out which books are the current edition and which one is for an older edition.
I'd be happy if the whole "this is TOTALLY backwards compatible/still 5e" was the bullshit and they actually went full steam ahead and made big changes for the revisions.
Agreed. Though I'm still interested in the new books, I lament that most of the radical changes shown in the OneDND UA got rolled back.
Tales of the Valiant from Kobold Press
exactly. As expected.
@@KIDFISTOMFC I moved away after OGL. D&D became just a stepping stone since they messed up my bard and ranger I loved to play.
@@victordevillers3899 I don't trust wotc. I can use all my 5e books with ToV. I own 12 wotc books but only use the phb and dmg.
I now have ToV the players guide and monster vault. I think it's great.
The Game Master Guide will be out in a few months and then I'll retire the wotc books.
Of note. Game Informer and Otaku are really the only magazines readily available in US public lbiraries as well. Both are on many of the standardized purchase plans.
So that probably factors in
It’s a new edition. Thanks for covering, I both want to get the book right away and wait for the reviews 😅
Totally agree. I really like this presentation push. What we’ve seen so far looks awesome. But a lot of us have already bought into other systems since the whole OGL mess and also people just needed something new to play. If this can be “new enough” and well-designed enough to bring people back to DnD, then great.
This is the way I currently look at it. It's a patch or a content update ... just like a video game that is a live service. This is why it's still compatible with our current 5e stuff, the changes are not as drastic previous edition changes/updates. If it was a fully new edition that would likely not be possible, the goal or what people would believe. That perception is in my opinion very important to keep as many people as possible from jumping ship. In the past they've had issues with transitioning players to new editions as much of their previous content is no longer valid without significant modification. (ex. I still have to/would like to DM Storm Kings Thunder, damn now I have to update everything ... vs oh cool I can update the ruleset and it's still "100% compatible") This time around the wording Hasbro/Wizards keeps choosing is very selective leading me to currently believe what I stated above. Moving forward I think they'll start calling it just Dungeons and Dragons, dropping the edition number or references to an edition number and give the system new content updates periodically as they feel necessary. I believe they are not directly saying this because they may feel too many people will 'freak out' as they'll feel they'll be forced to keep up with the new rules books like you had to in the past however now you just have to buy the updated content to play on the 'current patch' or whatever you wish to call it. Better yet, subscribe to dndbeyond for 30$/month and get the updated rules and access to a VTT which uses the ruleset. (We may get there, if this is their goal) Yes they're going to be people who just find other system or keep with an edition they like/are comfortable with, but to limit that number is what Hasbro may be going for at a marketing level here.
I'm more than happy to be wrong, only time will tell. Though as they continue to push the online features this will become easier and easier to do over time (I'm refering to my continued content update idea) as more of the existing player base transition to being more or fully digital, and newer players are basically only digital because why buy things 2 or 3 times (book, dndbeyond sub, VTT ... etc).
The art in it looks amazing, loved the cover, the heroes and the background scenes you showed here. Very glad to see that WotC are going more art-heavy this time, money well spent.
As cover art goes, PHB 2nd edition is still my favourite but these new ones are threatening to knock it down a peg.
i agree with you about background features being the coolest part of backgrounds. reducing backgrounds to a box of stuff that anyone can get at any point means they don't contribute to interesting characters. reverting to video game characters instead of roleplaying game characters shows they want to make D&D into a video game.
Its still 5e as the core mechanics, the mechanics that the DM uses, are still the same. The class mechanics, the mechanics that the player's use, may have changed, but the core is still there. It will still feel like a 5e game when playing.
In line with the changes between 1e and 2e; 2e to Revised 2e.
NOT like 3.0 to 3.5.
I like the content and congratulations on 100k subs. I have to let you know that the recurve bow on the wall is strung backwards I'm sorry but it has been bothering me since I first saw it lol.
The art is great! Really like that Wild Magic Barbarians Halfling. I made one with a Lance. I'm hoping the Heavy property is asjusted for small race to use without disadvantage.
I hope there is going to be a Greyhawke setting book coming (a real one, not those crappy 3-book gazetteers we have been getting for the last 10 yrs ), because come on, the DMG is going to be 384 pgs and we are only getting very minimal lore on the main world because you want us DMs to do the heavy lifting?, Are you fking kidding me? Glad I got my hands on a Greyhawke Boxset and some of the supplements and adventures (both dungeon magazines and old 1 and 2 ed modules) from the way back days. I just hope my standard rework for these books in the new edition stays under 20%, but I won't hold my breath.
Tbf the information needed to run the game with the original World of Greyhawk book is pretty minimal. A lot of pages in that book were dedicated to humanoid random encounter groups for each region and detailing their makeup to sell the flavor of feudalist realism. In fact it might even have more detail on the main city of greyhawk than the original world of greyhawk book since the other side of the foldout map will be the city.
@@JazzyBassy Yes the book was like that but am talking about the actual boxset, which fleshes out the whole world in several booklets and it has a complete map. The HC book was just considered a supplement to the boxset.
@@tazmokhan7614 The one that I am reading from archive has all the booklets, it's only 152 pages total and that's including the foldout map as many pages so probably only 130, which isn't that much in comparison to recent setting books. But again, most of it is filled with fluff. The Glossography section full of specific rules, political rules, weather generation, specific military encounters, and stats for people aren't needed aside from perhaps some adventuring hooks, as those are better handled in the other chapters of the DMG. The Guide to the World of Greyhawk is mostly a gazetteer, and I think that's what they are gonna mostly adapt since they are going to make a new map. They are probably gonna trim down some of the description of specific places and instead detail more of the bigger picture and larger regions, leaving some space for the smaller domains for the DM. The political divisions chapter was only 28 pages, so streamlining it they can probably cut that to 15 pages, and then add 5-10 more for other important areas. I expect Greyhawk to be a 25 page gazetteer/primer which is the perfect length to handout to a player or new DM wanting to make it their own. The trimmed D&D Setting Gazetteer for 3e was like this, it was 32 pages but it also had to explain all the extra lore from the events that happened between editions. I fully expect Greyhawk to be rebooted to either 576CY to get back to the basics and the classic era. Either that or going 50 years forward from then to make it similar to the anniversary and having a bit of a fresher start.
Greyhawk has always been lore lite compared to the Forgotten Realms. It's nice to give players the option. It would be nice to bring back more old favorites but that is years away.
Yeah, that art looks more inspired, distinct.
Poison is inherently evil/bad so doesn't make much sense to have a Good version.
They introduced a good variant back in the 3.5 Book of Exalted Deeds that were caller Afflictions. Maybe they're trying to re-introduce those?
Maybe, maybe not.
I guess brass dragons’ “sleep breath” doesn’t count as “poison” in the rules, but I’d imagine “good” poisons as subdual.
We have metallic dragons. Metals can be pretty toxic. I would not welcome the breath of a mercury dragon.
Cant put your finger on it huh? 3:13 doesnt look as "crisp"... Seems like WotC os priming us to accept Ai art. Which is often less crisp and the details tend to blend together. Im not saying this cover art is Ai, but, im not saying its not either lol
I’m still not sold that generative ai wasn’t used for the dwarf fighter art.
The line of a building in the background gets turned into a little itty bitty arrow stuck in the shield. And why is there a quiver of arrows on his back?!?
Just because we see a starting sketch doesn’t mean ai want used somewhere in the middle.
Given that Jacobson is an established artist for years, and they literally “showed his work” in the article, that feels too conspiracy-theory to me. Not every “art I don’t like” is automatically AI-generated. Rob Liefeld couldn’t draw feet for crap for years, but I didn’t call his work AI generated, either 😄
Your camera and lighting setup are spectacular. What do you use?
It’s not the first time core books have alt covers. The 2014 core books also have alt covers. ( just like 4e and 3.5).
But not from the start, those were developed years later as part of a bundle box set
@@NerdImmersion you are correct.
I feel positive about all this so far. I look foward to seeing more.
As I said on my channel, the new PHB cover art exemplifies - for better or worse - the quality of abundant complexity that even the core rule books tout. There's a lot going on in the image. Obviously it's some kind of battle but what exactly is going on? Compare to the 1st edition PHB art with a group of adventurers stealing a gem from an idol's eye, it's really a very different tone.
32:37 No DM should feel 'locked out of' using vampires at early levels. You don't always have to scale encounters to balance with party level. Injecting real threat and fear creates higher verisimilitude and often creates the most memorable game nights. Putting a first level party against a vampire can be a lot of fun for everyone! The world of D&D adventuring *should* be a dangerous place, after all
D&D as a service instead of a game
I like that the new PHB has more PCs on the front cover. Its like AD&D PHB but you know with diversity. Looking good!
So I really like Pathfinder system although I have changes for it that I do for myself but I really like having to have to work around restrictions which is what I consider ability scores to be so you know I want to play and work cleric for mage what's a mage cuz usually intellect is there a flaw well you know I can play that and I'm not going to be as good as someone else but there might be other ways to have fun with that maybe not the best example but I like restrictions I think restrictions are good
I've been calling it 5.2. They want to make the 5th edition the last edition. But play styles will change, and we will probably need a 5.3 a 5.4 and so on.
I love 5th edition, and I like it over Pathfinder and the rest.