No sorry, i think its way too expensive, especially for what is a single wall tent. The condensation will definitely be an issue going forward. Weight is never the overall issue to be considered. Comfort is equally important and there has to be a trade off between the two. I think you may have gone too far on the 'weight' side of things
Fortunately living in Utah, condensation is not something I deal with very much. Certain conditions yes, it'll be a problem, but so much time in the desert, I don't deal with condensation all that much. I spent a lot of time going back and forth on half a dozen shelter options before settling on this. I'll return after a season of use to share how it faired over the season of use.
I have owned the Double Rainbow Li for almost a year now and, for me, it's definitely worth the price. I backpack in the PNW and have pitched this tent on dirt, snow, and frozen lakes, been rained and snowed on, camped with no winds and 35mph gusts, and remain totally impressed. Condensation has surprisingly been comparable to a full double wall tent. This is a great purchase you will love; it's my favorite piece of gear.
I am from the PNW as well (British Columbia). I would say the majority of my camping is done in the alpine. So I am pitching on hard surfaces where tent stakes will not anchor into the ground. Generally use rocks to guy out the tent. Is the free standing option with this tent viable in these conditions?
@@wanderingaloudwithmark3057 The free-standing option with trekking poles was one of the big selling features for me on the Double Rainbow Li vs other options like the Stratospire Li or Duplex. I have pitched my Double Rainbow Li multiple times using the free-standing option and in mild wind it's fine; it works like a champ. If the wind is going to pick up, however, you want to get the vestibule flaps zipped down and anchored as this is how the DR Li gets its strength. I mention the vestibule flaps because in mild weather I routinely have 2 or all 4 of the vestibule flaps rolled up for the night to increase ventilation.
I got this tent last year and has used it many times. I LOVE IT TO THE MOON and BACK over and over again. I have altaplex and other tents. But this is MY TENT! Will never look back. Worth every penny. I got this tent when there was no youtube video on this.
Great video, you forgot to mention there’s an optional liner for overhead for people worried about condensation. Or you could turn it into a gear loft. I love my double rainbow LI
Tarptent says its weight is now 30.7 oz. I'm 6'2" and the Duplex is just high enough for me to sit up but this tent is 8 inches shorter but everyone says this tent handles wind better than the Duplex and Durston Xmid and just looking at it I believe it.
Yes the weight increased cause I believe they are using a nylon floor now instead of the dyneema floor. I feel like the tent does really well in the wind. It’s just a solid option that I like more than a lot of trekking pole tents.
Had one a couple years ago got caught in a huge off season storm in the Eastern Sierras 50-60 mph...flattened it!...around me...had to grab my Tyvek ground cloth and wrap up for the rest of the night. Might be nice for perfect weather forcast, but anything else get a X pole free standing. Also...the floor is so slick that unless on perfect level ground you're doing ice hockey.
Thanks for showing us this tent. I saw it first on one of your other videos. I hike with my dog, she's a large lab, and so I've been looking for a tent that is large enough for both of us, is sub 2 lbs, and is also a semi freestanding tent. There are limited options for sure. But thank you for the insight on this tent because it checked all of the boxes for me so I bought one last night. I didn't want to spend almost 800 bucks but it was actually cheaper than the zpacks duo freestanding tent. So again thanks for the videos, keep it up brother.
Mine arrived today. For me DCF was one of many changes I made after 2 sections on the AT. Overall pack weight leads to less stress on your body and a more pleasurable experience. I got the liner even tho many said it was useless it does provide better security (ppl seeing in). Condensation management is better than Zpack but time will tell.
Sweet walkthrough! I have their Protrail Li & am really impressed with it. It’s not freestanding like the DR but is super easy to setup & I agree, their build quality is top notch. Haven’t had any issues with condensation that are out of the norm for this kind of tent. Only annoyance I have is when there’s a full moon out I need something to cover my eyes so I can sleep (it’s like a spotlight coming straight through) but hey, that’s an easy remedy. 🕶 Cheers!
Devin, great video! I know that I can't afford the DCF version. So I'd only consider the regular version... which is still pretty cool. It seems to have a # of ventilation features built into it. That's important to me, being on the east coast. I've never bought a single wall tent due to condensation concerns.
I love this tent! I would def be using a ground sheet with it. Dyneema is tough but will help save on the life of the tent. Finally a dome tent style dyneema tent! Hike on!
I have the single Rainbow silnylon. Great design. The condensation insert is something to consider adding on, I use it occasionally. They did reduce the awning fabric on this one. It used to be a full piece to the bottom so that one pole in the center made a fully complete giant awning. This might be to keep the weight at the same as their some of their other DCF tents. The freestanding option has come through for me in rocky conditions several times. I hope you like it and look forward to seeing you with it in action
This is,well, my dream tent. Saving up! What I would like to see though, which I haven't seen anywhere and it does make a big diff if the weather is bad in particular, is how well backpacks fit in those vestibules. Please and thank you. :) Cheers from Norway
The vestibule size is pretty standard. Any 50L or smaller backpack is going to fit fine, especially if used as a solo shelter. There are two doors so the other door is free to put your pack.
@@BackcountryExposure Appreciate the answer, I'd get this to replace my current two person tent (as well) so that's why I'm wondering. :) Two backpacks and gear inside is a lot more then roaming solo with it, so "having" to use the vestibules for the backpacks is something I am curious of. :)
Dcf is the bomb.. wonder why they incorporated the nylon with the dcf.. great looking tent..price is inline with the duplex when you add there, free standing poles.. love my duplex..
Funny you should choose Tarptent this year, I just got a Notch silnylon 1P. I chose the full bug net option because I usually camp in humid areas. If you remember from last year I’m the guy who bought the Black Diamond Distance condensation nightmare tent just two weeks before your review on it. It did condensate as you reported and I did suffer from cold as my down quilt got soaked through from condensation. I did ponder on the Dynema choice for this unit but after last year’s catastrophe I did not want to risk hard earned money again on a possible failure. I hike in humid forested northern geography so my choice of gear is limited. I did look at the Bowfin but I didn’t want to mess with poles again but it looks like a great tent. Btw the stitching on Tarptent gear is amazing! I wish you good sleep time in this new gear and thank you for being THE tent specialist on the Tubes.👍😁
Thanks, and yeah I remember. Fortunately the DR when compared to that BD tent, the DR has far better ventilation opportunities, so I am far less concerned about condensation issues in my area being single wall. We will see, as the first trip out with it is at the end of the month. Thanks!
@@BackcountryExposure I’m really looking forward to that review, not only for that tent but for your evaluations and work in general. If you did cars or cooking stuff, I’d still be there.😊
Would be great to see this tent subjected to the Smoky Mountain humidity - humidity that is truly unimaginable to most of my western brethren. In the east, we are terribly frustrated with tent designs paying so little attention to condensation management. I have resorted to two Scottish designed tents for my current 1 person and 2 person tents. ( The Scottish highlands produce murderously wet and cold conditions as well. ) It remains unfathomable for American tent designers to downplay the marketing demographics that 1) the eastern U.S. has 2/3 of the population and 2) taller people earn more on average and have more disposable income and so are the obvious target market for sizing in upscale tents. The double rainbow has the space, but will it handle the condensation when its venting options are fully deployed? I may purchase one just to test it out.
@Madeline Preiss The Vango Force 10 Helium 2 is the smaller one and the Force 10 Xenon 2 is the more spacious and better ventilating. Both set up with inner and outer out the same time and I have loved both tents. The Xenon 2 ventilates condensation superbly well if one makes use of the door vent and the rear vent.
I have looked at this tent pretty sweet! I kinda thought the roof looked a little low but seeing you inside its taller than i thought. They also went with the old style tent pole design where the pole goes through the fabric. Rather than just using clips like on the copper spur. Its nice to see companies step outside the box and try to make a dome tent out of dcf. Would love to get my hands on the Djedi tent by Locus gear. That tent is pretty much the dcf dome tent i have dreamed about. 3 pole design like the dome tents when i was a kid but much more ultralight and they use DCF mixed with e-vent material which makes the dyneema condensate a little less. But even on the djedi you kinda have to order their door vestibule separately from what i see, otherwise you run the risk of water coming straight into the tent from the main door. If we could somehow marry the copper spur with the djedi and the tarptent double rainbow li, you would def get my ultimate dream tent!! Lol seriously though...I also like gossamer gears "the one" tent. I am a single trekking pole guy. So double trekking pole style tents just dont work for me. I also do not fancy having to use 10 or more stakes. Lol..6 to 8 easton stakes max! Thanks for sharing man!! Awesome tent!!!
Yeah you might be able to put something together that would work. There are mitten hooks inside the tent, but they are placed in spots specific to the liner that you can get with the tent.
It looks very nice, it’s to bad for that cost they made it in China. Its one of the main reason I am Zpack fan, made in the US. I paid a bit more for my Duplex but it was made in Florida. I understand you can do some things a Duplex would not be great at. My Tiger Wall was only 300 and weights not much more than that tent.
@@williambrennan7794 To be honest I have owned many tents in my life and if you ask my wife I have to many tents and probably to many if everything when it comes to backpacking and skiing. This all said the Asian tents are very nice but at this point in my life enough is enough. We have offshored way to many products and if given the option I am purchasing my goods from the U.S. and anywhere but Asia second. I have never had any issues with my Zpacks tents and I have used them for months on end, same with my Asian tenants , but like I said I am done supporting Asia any time I can.
@@mtadams2009 yeah. Bicycles (another expensive collection of mine) are the same way. Almost every bicycle in the world is made by 1 of 3 corporations in Taiwan. It's so hard to find something that's not.
I am very seriously thinking of getting a tarp tent or two as I need a four season camping here in North Wales and want a lightweight tent for multi days and family camping. Just worried about import tax
@@dalefalgate2716 you can’t beat the tax. Cost me £100. The tent is like nothing available. So it justifies the price to me. I’m gagging to get out in mine once the lockdowns lifted.
Yeah the scarp 1 is definitely well suited for where I live but I am also thinking of the StratoSpire possibly the li version for summer camping with family and fair weather multi days. Can you fit two people in your scarp 1?
@@dalefalgate2716 one full sized mat, one 3/4 mat. It’s this versatility I like about it. It’s a one man palace or big enough for two. Pitches super quickly and very stable in high wind.
@@BurtReynoldstash ace cheers buddy. I have a wide neo air and just want to be able to get my Mrs in there on the rare occasion she can come with him and the rest of the time I don't want to carry extra weight that I don't use. I will have to have a think
I use a TarpTent Aeon Li and it took a bit of time to get used to both the setup and the space in general... Tarptent makes some amazing tents, I love all their little methods of increasing airflow and living space.
I own both so I can give feedback on them. If I could only have one of them, it would be the DR for versatility. But I use them both based on my goals for a trip. It’s is now the only two tents I own and I really doubt that will change for a pretty long while. The only thing I would change on the DR, I’d rather have full mesh sidewalls than the partial fabric sidewall which is noted for splash and wind reduction. You can close the doors for wind reduction. On a hot night, you might not like the reduced wind. I don’t.
@@shaunmc1910 What's the packed dimensions? My only gripe on the Aeon Li is the length of it when packed. I can't fit it into my pack horizontally, which makes packing a bit more of a challenge when I have to use my Bear Vault, which takes up the bottom of my pack. The fact that the Double Rainbow is a two person, free standing, sub 2 lb tent... that's huge, and if it is slightly more compact in terms of packed length, that'd be the winner for me.
@@jackcrackerman yes I understand! The DR is the same if you pack it where you roll the tent with the poles in the middle and use their sack. However!! I have a small little dcf pole bag and a medium zpacks stuff. If you store the poles separately you can do whatever you want with the tent, like short and fat. You can do that with the Aeon as well but I don’t want to remove the poles in it. So short answer. Pack poles (2) separately like you do with most pole tents and get a different tent bag. Then you have the ability to do whatever you want.
It seems like all tents have something that can or needs to be supplemented from a different manufacturer. Zpacks makes mesh tent pockets. But one can do this by themself to make it bigger. A little guy line as well and bam. It’s better.
It’s interesting. It’s not light when compared to a dcf trekking pole tent because, well, poles, waterproof zippers, etc. but when compared to other non-trekking pole dcf tents it’s one of the lightest. For 8oz over the Duplex you gain the ability to fit two wide width, the freestanding capability, more usable interior space, and larger vestibules. That’s a lot of flexibility for half a pound. Especially for this of us over 6ft tall that usable space makes all the difference.
@@phillipp1399 If I go solo I use a 2 lb hammock system or the 28 oz silpoly 1lb XMid. If I want to share a tent during a trip, I use my friend's 2.4 lb 2p X-mid. If I go solo, I can't justify the cost of a dyneema tent that has no weight savings and provides me with no extra comfort or protection
@@jays7318 with the DR Li you get the same usable space as the x-mid 2 at the same weight but considerably smaller footprint than the x-mid 1. As a 6’3 and broad-bodied backpacker, usable space isn’t always as much luxury as necessity. Mids are glorious and great in lots of conditions but when you have tight spots on which to pitch them their many advantages fade quickly. The DR sits at a pretty sweet balance point between lots of compromises. The main compromise being up front investment. To me, a couple of hundred extra dollars for light weight, usable space, not rubbing up against tent or net, and undeniable pitch location flexibility makes it a no-brainer. Hammocks are just too limiting in the western US world of mountains and desserts. $600 for tent that will work anywhere a tent will work, is easily light enough to carry solo, doesn’t get my quilt all wet on the walls, and also works with a second person (of select sizes) is a heck of a bargain. I will also have the few gram penalty of a small lightload towel for extra condensation mornings.
Hmmm......honest statement, it reminds me of the zpaks duplex tent but a bit more room. Thanks for the share, I didn’t know they had other tents out there besides zpaks and mt gear I think the company is called.
quite a bit different in design... Duplex is a modified A frame and requires trekking poles to pitch. The Double Rainbow uses a single pole as a simple and modified dome design. There's a lot of dyneema shelters out there to choose from.
@@BackcountryExposure yeah I was noticed that when you were talking about it, very informative and I like how you explained everything. Might just have to save up and buy one of these too.
I really like the design of this tent and the versatility it offers. I have a Tiger Wall ul2 all ready so my main issue is being able to justify the price for something not all that different or that much lighter. As much as I like it I would probably go with a much lighter non freestanding option if I changed from what I have now. PS The trekking pole spreader idea totally seems possible to do with my semi freestanding Big Agnes given a little rigging.
Yeah, there are lighter options for sure, and I mentioned that too. Something like the TT Aeon Li at one pound is an option that I've looked at many times. My goal was a, single do it all tent that I could use for any 3 season backpacking trip that gave me the best livable space, could set up on any surface, and was the lightest weight possible. This is what fit the bill.
I've been waiting for the DCF version to come out. But I have some questions. How see thru is it? Think solo woman with head lamp on inside... Also, how close to the ground are the vestibules when it's all closed up? Are you able to pitch it differently to raise or lower that? Thanks!
I recently bought this tent and are very pleased with the purchase. As to privacy I'd say at night with a light inside the tent it is 80%-90% see thru. That said if you are worried about modesty then just turn the light off and do your thing.
Hi BG- I have this same tent and if privacy is a concern I would recommend purchasing TT's nylon inner liner. It will add visual protection over the main body of the tent and additionally help with the condensation. If you're curious, I simply love my tent; it's my favorite piece of gear!!
Hi Dev, this is the first time I've watched an in depth look at this option and I have to say it really ticks a lot of boxes. I can see why you went with it and I look forward to further videos with it in use. I'll check out the width at Tarptent as me and my wife like 130 cm minimum. I have some reservations about how it would take cross winds but that might be the trade off as it doesn't appear to have extra guying points like an MSR Access 2 for example? Anyway great no nonsense video, thanks. A
These are nice thought out and designed tents but honestly, I would pack a 3lb $150 tent before spending 700 on one of these. I do have a tarptent contrail but at my age and 6'-1 it is getting harder and harder every year to get in and out of. Im hoping they will do a tee pee style 1 or 2 man at some point where you can at least step into bending at waist instead of havin to get down on hands and knees to crawl in...
I love that it can be free-standing! How do you like it after a year+? I know condensation is an issue with ANY single-walled tent, but how is it with this one?
good to see. at first I couldn't understand how this was going to be a winner. I thought to myself - but what about setting it up in slickrock country? then you did it. bravo. where did you film this?
Trust me, that was a huge consideration. I was just going to go with the Aeon Li, but as you know, slick rock and non freestanding tents are not friends.
Dyneema is expensive, but I'm done with silnylon tents. Too many nights with a sagging, rain soaked rainfly. I have the TT Stratospire Li and it's a bomb proof tent for above timberline, windy, heavy rain, and even snow conditions. About the same weight as the double rainbow Li, but It's a double wall trekking pole tent and huge for one person. Downside - It's not free standing and has a massive footprint. But you asked how we feel about Dyneema tents - I'm all in!
I have two Hilleberg tents and I haven’t found them to sag despite being silnylon. Maybe they use a better fabric; certainly they’re triple coated which may be part of it.
Tons of space inside that tent. Maybe I can use that to help convince my wife to let me drop $700 on a tent! Awesome video Devin I’m looking forward to seeing you use this.
I think the demand for affordable DCF gear is so high that it is a huge mistake for companies to not fill that hole. Etsy (as you know 😉) has lightweight outdoor gear, including DCF, that is good quality and affordable, however shelters are still priced astronomically. Fill. That. Gap.
Pretty cool for a million dollars!!! HAHA I would definitely consider dropping this kind of coin on a winter tent but dang a summer tent???? I think being a basecamper vs. a through hiker keeps me out of the loop on these.
As with any piece of gear, you gotta know what the limitations are going to be. A stick definitely can poke through nylon as well and I've had it happen. Site selection is pretty important.
@@BackcountryExposure I suppose it depends whether it’s easy to repair afterwards? (I’m very impressed with Hillebergs’ ability to ‘self-heal’ for instance.)
After almost a year with this tent I truly feel it is one of the best tents on the market right now. It is so versatile...with the only barrier being footprint size but not an issue I've had to fight with much. And being able to use two 25" pads side by side is so nice compared to similar shelters that taper on the foot end. Price is big...but I feel like this was a shelter that if I paid for one time it would last me a good while. So far so good.
@@BackcountryExposure I have the "two person" Marmot superalloy which I can really compress when I go bikepacking. I feel like dyneema would take up my whole handlebar roll. They are tempting though. Especially the double rainbow since it can be used as freestanding. Maybe one day lol
@@lakorai2 Yeah room wasn't my biggest concern haha I can *just* fit a second pad in there if I need to. The Durston tents definitely look like good value. I ended up going freestanding mostly because its a bit more versatile and suits my needs better with bikepacking and lots of places with platforms.
No idea. X Mid Pro isn’t released yet, or at least shipping yet. But there’s some core differences. Semi freestanding vs non freestanding. Single wall vs double wall. So they are really two very different tents. The weights are a bit different too. The X Mid is lighter, but that’s primarily due to not having any pole system. Foot print on the X Mid will be a bit larger though.
It's quite roomy for what it is. It's not ideal for two, but two 20" pads and if you slept opposite of each other it would work just fine. It's perfect for one person though.
@@BackcountryExposure very hard to find a tent that fits exactly what you want. Sorta like a mini version of a house search 🤣. Looking for a light weight, double walled, 2 p tent that is 50 inches wide on both ends, high up at both ends so we can sit up and play cards, hopefully with 4 people, (but just sleep 2) and not nylon cuz we are from a rainy part of the world and doesn’t break the bank. Thought the marmot tungsten ul 2p was gonna work but it narrows at the foot end. Gotta start sewing I guess 🤣
@@HM-gk3rq if you can find one in stock, you’ve pretty much described the Dan Durston Xmid 2p. (Assuming you don’t require your tent to be free standing). The only problem is the 2p version is completely out of stock right now.
@@jonsanford2515 we’ve have an x-mid 2p already and love it of course. It’s only really tall enough to sit and play cards right at the peak. Which is fine for two but I don’t think it’d work for 4. And getting another one for this summer seems unlikely.
I would LOVE if River Country Ptoducts made the Trekker 3 in Dyneema!! I would find a way to afford it. I love the material. Mauve if more people buy the price will start coming down.
Wow, I loved the features you showed. The ventilation adjustment and semi to freestanding solution - great versatility focused designs. I love the interior space too but I’m getting a copper spur for two reasons; price & gear pockets. Copper spur 2 here costs $700. Dyneema Tiger wall 2 costs $1,500.00. That’s a big nope! from me.
The workmanship is amazing. Nobody would guess that 6 and 7 year old child laborers made it with only a single meal of rice and water per day. Fun fact. They test the waterproofness by collecting the tears from new arrivals and then spraying them on the tents. After a few days, the children can no longer cry because it is too much work and they are dehydrated. Those Chinese don't let anything go to waste. Very eco-friendly.
its basically like the tiger wall except no Y end and single wall. thats cool. but the fact that its made in china means it prob costs them like 100 bucks haha... i bet these tent companies are making an absolute KILLING on markup with these chinese products. agnes and sea to summit are made in china too.
Own it and I’m just saying, don’t drink your whiskey while cooking with your Soto windmaster inside the porch 5 miles into the Uintas at night in a snowstorm! I’m just saying!
It's only worth it to the individual willing to spend that amount of money. If the individual can justify the expense then that is their choice...but I am not one of those.
Super Kewl Devin. I'm excited to try out my new shelter to. I'm not ready for a DCF shelter myself, and I know the are the "Black Sheep" of backpacking shelters, but I have actually had good luck with River Country Products trekking pole tents, so I just picked up their "Trekker Tent 2V". I'm thinking this may be a winner for winter backpacking, and maybe more. We'll just have to see. For 50$ I had to give it a shot.
Uhhh $700.00?!! On a backpacking tent?!! Were I to do that, my wife would say "Hey I hope you enjoy living in your new $700.00 house!!" Gonna have to pass on this one.
For how often I get out on the trail, it's actually a pretty small investment for the weight savings and living space. You could say the same thing about spending $700 on a TV, but no one bats an eye at spending way more than that on a TV. :)
Broaden your understanding of products that come from quality factories in China. Thinking that everything made in China is crap doesn’t do any good. This tent is incredible quality.
@@BackcountryExposure They were only sewing locally but by what your saying are now also sewn in China. How many local jobs are lost?? I didnt mention quality at all.
What do you think about Dyneema tents? Worth the high price tag?
No sorry, i think its way too expensive, especially for what is a single wall tent. The condensation will definitely be an issue going forward. Weight is never the overall issue to be considered. Comfort is equally important and there has to be a trade off between the two. I think you may have gone too far on the 'weight' side of things
Also, im not convinced that it would stand up that well to a high wind.
Fortunately living in Utah, condensation is not something I deal with very much. Certain conditions yes, it'll be a problem, but so much time in the desert, I don't deal with condensation all that much. I spent a lot of time going back and forth on half a dozen shelter options before settling on this. I'll return after a season of use to share how it faired over the season of use.
I will be interested in your own personal experiences with this tent during strong gusty windy conditions.
Yes, gusty wind is a concern for me. Not really any places to guy out the tent for stability against the length of the tent.
I have owned the Double Rainbow Li for almost a year now and, for me, it's definitely worth the price. I backpack in the PNW and have pitched this tent on dirt, snow, and frozen lakes, been rained and snowed on, camped with no winds and 35mph gusts, and remain totally impressed. Condensation has surprisingly been comparable to a full double wall tent. This is a great purchase you will love; it's my favorite piece of gear.
Replies like yours is the reason I normally read replies after watching a video. The voice of experience. Good on you!
It’s my fave as well. I have never looked back.
Did you actually measure the 35mph gusts, or was it a guess? I only ask because people notoriously over estimate wind speeds. Have fun with the tent!
I am from the PNW as well (British Columbia). I would say the majority of my camping is done in the alpine. So I am pitching on hard surfaces where tent stakes will not anchor into the ground. Generally use rocks to guy out the tent. Is the free standing option with this tent viable in these conditions?
@@wanderingaloudwithmark3057 The free-standing option with trekking poles was one of the big selling features for me on the Double Rainbow Li vs other options like the Stratospire Li or Duplex. I have pitched my Double Rainbow Li multiple times using the free-standing option and in mild wind it's fine; it works like a champ. If the wind is going to pick up, however, you want to get the vestibule flaps zipped down and anchored as this is how the DR Li gets its strength. I mention the vestibule flaps because in mild weather I routinely have 2 or all 4 of the vestibule flaps rolled up for the night to increase ventilation.
Looks like a palace: excellent! I couldn't afford it, but you will enjoy and get serious use out of it - and we will have fun coming along with you!
The price tag is what I was thinking about too lol.
Looks great but I'm not drowning in money.
I got this tent last year and has used it many times. I LOVE IT TO THE MOON and BACK over and over again. I have altaplex and other tents. But this is MY TENT! Will never look back. Worth every penny.
I got this tent when there was no youtube video on this.
Great video, you forgot to mention there’s an optional liner for overhead for people worried about condensation. Or you could turn it into a gear loft.
I love my double rainbow LI
Tarptent says its weight is now 30.7 oz. I'm 6'2" and the Duplex is just high enough for me to sit up but this tent is 8 inches shorter but everyone says this tent handles wind better than the Duplex and Durston Xmid and just looking at it I believe it.
Yes the weight increased cause I believe they are using a nylon floor now instead of the dyneema floor.
I feel like the tent does really well in the wind. It’s just a solid option that I like more than a lot of trekking pole tents.
Had one a couple years ago got caught in a huge off season storm in the Eastern Sierras 50-60 mph...flattened it!...around me...had to grab my Tyvek ground cloth and wrap up for the rest of the night. Might be nice for perfect weather forcast, but anything else get a X pole free standing. Also...the floor is so slick that unless on perfect level ground you're doing ice hockey.
Thanks for showing us this tent. I saw it first on one of your other videos. I hike with my dog, she's a large lab, and so I've been looking for a tent that is large enough for both of us, is sub 2 lbs, and is also a semi freestanding tent. There are limited options for sure. But thank you for the insight on this tent because it checked all of the boxes for me so I bought one last night. I didn't want to spend almost 800 bucks but it was actually cheaper than the zpacks duo freestanding tent. So again thanks for the videos, keep it up brother.
Mine arrived today. For me DCF was one of many changes I made after 2 sections on the AT. Overall pack weight leads to less stress on your body and a more pleasurable experience. I got the liner even tho many said it was useless it does provide better security (ppl seeing in). Condensation management is better than Zpack but time will tell.
Sweet walkthrough! I have their Protrail Li & am really impressed with it. It’s not freestanding like the DR but is super easy to setup & I agree, their build quality is top notch. Haven’t had any issues with condensation that are out of the norm for this kind of tent. Only annoyance I have is when there’s a full moon out I need something to cover my eyes so I can sleep (it’s like a spotlight coming straight through) but hey, that’s an easy remedy. 🕶 Cheers!
I've almost pulled the trigger on buying one. Still might. Going to see how I like the One this spring first. Great review.
I’d pull the trigger over and over again on this Tent. I love it! I bought the separate inner liner.
Devin, great video! I know that I can't afford the DCF version. So I'd only consider the regular version... which is still pretty cool. It seems to have a # of ventilation features built into it. That's important to me, being on the east coast. I've never bought a single wall tent due to condensation concerns.
This does look awesome, once my current gear wears out, I will be so tempted to get this tent.
I love this tent! I would def be using a ground sheet with it. Dyneema is tough but will help save on the life of the tent. Finally a dome tent style dyneema tent! Hike on!
They sell a gear loft called the rainbow roost. Looking at this tent now to upgrade from a Lanshan 2
Such a cool tent. I just purchased mine and I'm itching to get it out on the trail!
Great preview, Dev! Looking forward to the long-term review! 🍻
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I have the single Rainbow silnylon. Great design. The condensation insert is something to consider adding on, I use it occasionally. They did reduce the awning fabric on this one. It used to be a full piece to the bottom so that one pole in the center made a fully complete giant awning. This might be to keep the weight at the same as their some of their other DCF tents. The freestanding option has come through for me in rocky conditions several times. I hope you like it and look forward to seeing you with it in action
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This is,well, my dream tent. Saving up! What I would like to see though, which I haven't seen anywhere and it does make a big diff if the weather is bad in particular, is how well backpacks fit in those vestibules. Please and thank you. :) Cheers from Norway
The vestibule size is pretty standard. Any 50L or smaller backpack is going to fit fine, especially if used as a solo shelter. There are two doors so the other door is free to put your pack.
@@BackcountryExposure Appreciate the answer, I'd get this to replace my current two person tent (as well) so that's why I'm wondering. :) Two backpacks and gear inside is a lot more then roaming solo with it, so "having" to use the vestibules for the backpacks is something I am curious of. :)
Dcf is the bomb.. wonder why they incorporated the nylon with the dcf.. great looking tent..price is inline with the duplex when you add there, free standing poles.. love my duplex..
The nylon for the inner wall doesn't have a coating on it, so it allows for added breathability to the tent.
Funny you should choose Tarptent this year, I just got a Notch silnylon 1P. I chose the full bug net option because I usually camp in humid areas. If you remember from last year I’m the guy who bought the Black Diamond Distance condensation nightmare tent just two weeks before your review on it. It did condensate as you reported and I did suffer from cold as my down quilt got soaked through from condensation.
I did ponder on the Dynema choice for this unit but after last year’s catastrophe I did not want to risk hard earned money again on a possible failure. I hike in humid forested northern geography so my choice of gear is limited. I did look at the Bowfin but I didn’t want to mess with poles again but it looks like a great tent. Btw the stitching on Tarptent gear is amazing! I wish you good sleep time in this new gear and thank you for being THE tent specialist on the Tubes.👍😁
Thanks, and yeah I remember. Fortunately the DR when compared to that BD tent, the DR has far better ventilation opportunities, so I am far less concerned about condensation issues in my area being single wall. We will see, as the first trip out with it is at the end of the month. Thanks!
@@BackcountryExposure I’m really looking forward to that review, not only for that tent but for your evaluations and work in general. If you did cars or cooking stuff, I’d still be there.😊
Would be interested to know how you think it would manage in high winds? Great video though. Thanks
Would be great to see this tent subjected to the Smoky Mountain humidity - humidity that is truly unimaginable to most of my western brethren. In the east, we are terribly frustrated with tent designs paying so little attention to condensation management. I have resorted to two Scottish designed tents for my current 1 person and 2 person tents. ( The Scottish highlands produce murderously wet and cold conditions as well. ) It remains unfathomable for American tent designers to downplay the marketing demographics that 1) the eastern U.S. has 2/3 of the population and 2) taller people earn more on average and have more disposable income and so are the obvious target market for sizing in upscale tents. The double rainbow has the space, but will it handle the condensation when its venting options are fully deployed? I may purchase one just to test it out.
@Madeline Preiss The Vango Force 10 Helium 2 is the smaller one and the Force 10 Xenon 2 is the more spacious and better ventilating. Both set up with inner and outer out the same time and I have loved both tents. The Xenon 2 ventilates condensation superbly well if one makes use of the door vent and the rear vent.
I have looked at this tent pretty sweet! I kinda thought the roof looked a little low but seeing you inside its taller than i thought. They also went with the old style tent pole design where the pole goes through the fabric. Rather than just using clips like on the copper spur. Its nice to see companies step outside the box and try to make a dome tent out of dcf. Would love to get my hands on the Djedi tent by Locus gear. That tent is pretty much the dcf dome tent i have dreamed about. 3 pole design like the dome tents when i was a kid but much more ultralight and they use DCF mixed with e-vent material which makes the dyneema condensate a little less. But even on the djedi you kinda have to order their door vestibule separately from what i see, otherwise you run the risk of water coming straight into the tent from the main door. If we could somehow marry the copper spur with the djedi and the tarptent double rainbow li, you would def get my ultimate dream tent!! Lol seriously though...I also like gossamer gears "the one" tent. I am a single trekking pole guy. So double trekking pole style tents just dont work for me. I also do not fancy having to use 10 or more stakes. Lol..6 to 8 easton stakes max! Thanks for sharing man!! Awesome tent!!!
I'm really surprised that so many reviewers don't seem to use sleeping pads and bags when they are out hiking.
Saves weight! 😜
That looks great, may become my Big Agnes replacement. More storage would be nice but I can probably fabricate a hanging net.
Yeah you might be able to put something together that would work. There are mitten hooks inside the tent, but they are placed in spots specific to the liner that you can get with the tent.
Honestly I’d take the poly model of the double rainbow, I don’t mind the extra bit of weight one bit for the 300 bucks saved
It looks very nice, it’s to bad for that cost they made it in China. Its one of the main reason I am Zpack fan, made in the US. I paid a bit more for my Duplex but it was made in Florida. I understand you can do some things a Duplex would not be great at. My Tiger Wall was only 300 and weights not much more than that tent.
The US isn't the best country for tent manufacturing. Zpacks is a great brand but Asian tent manufacturing is far superior.
@@williambrennan7794 To be honest I have owned many tents in my life and if you ask my wife I have to many tents and probably to many if everything when it comes to backpacking and skiing. This all said the Asian tents are very nice but at this point in my life enough is enough. We have offshored way to many products and if given the option I am purchasing my goods from the U.S. and anywhere but Asia second. I have never had any issues with my Zpacks tents and I have used them for months on end, same with my Asian tenants , but like I said I am done supporting Asia any time I can.
@@mtadams2009 yeah. Bicycles (another expensive collection of mine) are the same way. Almost every bicycle in the world is made by 1 of 3 corporations in Taiwan. It's so hard to find something that's not.
@@mtadams2009 I also own a triplex, so I get it.
@@williambrennan7794 This is true, Taiwan has the bike frame market pretty much to themselves.
I’ve just got my tarp tent scarp 1. Tarp tent have a big following over in the uk 🇬🇧. Expensive but awesome
I am very seriously thinking of getting a tarp tent or two as I need a four season camping here in North Wales and want a lightweight tent for multi days and family camping. Just worried about import tax
@@dalefalgate2716 you can’t beat the tax. Cost me £100. The tent is like nothing available. So it justifies the price to me.
I’m gagging to get out in mine once the lockdowns lifted.
Yeah the scarp 1 is definitely well suited for where I live but I am also thinking of the StratoSpire possibly the li version for summer camping with family and fair weather multi days. Can you fit two people in your scarp 1?
@@dalefalgate2716 one full sized mat, one 3/4 mat. It’s this versatility I like about it.
It’s a one man palace or big enough for two. Pitches super quickly and very stable in high wind.
@@BurtReynoldstash ace cheers buddy. I have a wide neo air and just want to be able to get my Mrs in there on the rare occasion she can come with him and the rest of the time I don't want to carry extra weight that I don't use. I will have to have a think
I use a TarpTent Aeon Li and it took a bit of time to get used to both the setup and the space in general... Tarptent makes some amazing tents, I love all their little methods of increasing airflow and living space.
Yeah, the pitchlok systems are pretty rad! There's a chance I'll end up checking out the Aeon as well...
I own both so I can give feedback on them. If I could only have one of them, it would be the DR for versatility. But I use them both based on my goals for a trip. It’s is now the only two tents I own and I really doubt that will change for a pretty long while.
The only thing I would change on the DR, I’d rather have full mesh sidewalls than the partial fabric sidewall which is noted for splash and wind reduction. You can close the doors for wind reduction. On a hot night, you might not like the reduced wind. I don’t.
@@shaunmc1910 What's the packed dimensions? My only gripe on the Aeon Li is the length of it when packed. I can't fit it into my pack horizontally, which makes packing a bit more of a challenge when I have to use my Bear Vault, which takes up the bottom of my pack. The fact that the Double Rainbow is a two person, free standing, sub 2 lb tent... that's huge, and if it is slightly more compact in terms of packed length, that'd be the winner for me.
@@jackcrackerman yes I understand! The DR is the same if you pack it where you roll the tent with the poles in the middle and use their sack. However!! I have a small little dcf pole bag and a medium zpacks stuff. If you store the poles separately you can do whatever you want with the tent, like short and fat. You can do that with the Aeon as well but I don’t want to remove the poles in it. So short answer. Pack poles (2) separately like you do with most pole tents and get a different tent bag. Then you have the ability to do whatever you want.
Finally got my Double Rainbow Li, I'll be using it on the AT in just a few weeks!
It seems like all tents have something that can or needs to be supplemented from a different manufacturer.
Zpacks makes mesh tent pockets.
But one can do this by themself to make it bigger. A little guy line as well and bam. It’s better.
In its freestanding form, how does the rainfly do fully enclosed since you don't have the stakeouts on the side?
You think you’ve got it bad In the states lol, I paid $900 CDN to get one of these up here a few weeks ago.
Love it though
@Backcountry Exposure can you do an update on this tent? For example feature it on one of your backpacking trips.
You can see the tent in action on this trip to Halls Creek Narrows.
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I don't find 29 oz that light for a dyneema tent in general, but it is light for a free standing tent.
It’s interesting. It’s not light when compared to a dcf trekking pole tent because, well, poles, waterproof zippers, etc. but when compared to other non-trekking pole dcf tents it’s one of the lightest. For 8oz over the Duplex you gain the ability to fit two wide width, the freestanding capability, more usable interior space, and larger vestibules. That’s a lot of flexibility for half a pound. Especially for this of us over 6ft tall that usable space makes all the difference.
@@phillipp1399 If I go solo I use a 2 lb hammock system or the 28 oz silpoly 1lb XMid. If I want to share a tent during a trip, I use my friend's 2.4 lb 2p X-mid.
If I go solo, I can't justify the cost of a dyneema tent that has no weight savings and provides me with no extra comfort or protection
@@jays7318 with the DR Li you get the same usable space as the x-mid 2 at the same weight but considerably smaller footprint than the x-mid 1. As a 6’3 and broad-bodied backpacker, usable space isn’t always as much luxury as necessity. Mids are glorious and great in lots of conditions but when you have tight spots on which to pitch them their many advantages fade quickly. The DR sits at a pretty sweet balance point between lots of compromises. The main compromise being up front investment. To me, a couple of hundred extra dollars for light weight, usable space, not rubbing up against tent or net, and undeniable pitch location flexibility makes it a no-brainer. Hammocks are just too limiting in the western US world of mountains and desserts. $600 for tent that will work anywhere a tent will work, is easily light enough to carry solo, doesn’t get my quilt all wet on the walls, and also works with a second person (of select sizes) is a heck of a bargain. I will also have the few gram penalty of a small lightload towel for extra condensation mornings.
Storage space is not thought of much in those UL Shelter.... The Copper Spur looks awesome with that Gear basket at the top!
Love the storage in the Copper Spur!
I completely agree with you
Great channel btw gave you a follow!
Hmmm......honest statement, it reminds me of the zpaks duplex tent but a bit more room. Thanks for the share, I didn’t know they had other tents out there besides zpaks and mt gear I think the company is called.
quite a bit different in design... Duplex is a modified A frame and requires trekking poles to pitch. The Double Rainbow uses a single pole as a simple and modified dome design. There's a lot of dyneema shelters out there to choose from.
@@BackcountryExposure yeah I was noticed that when you were talking about it, very informative and I like how you explained everything. Might just have to save up and buy one of these too.
Henry Shires (Tarptent owner/designer) says the Rainbow design is very wind worthy, more so than my Moment DW design.
did you consider the Stratospire Li when you were deciding what to purchase? if so, what attracted you to the Double Rainbow over the Stratospire Li?
I really like the design of this tent and the versatility it offers. I have a Tiger Wall ul2 all ready so my main issue is being able to justify the price for something not all that different or that much lighter. As much as I like it I would probably go with a much lighter non freestanding option if I changed from what I have now.
PS The trekking pole spreader idea totally seems possible to do with my semi freestanding Big Agnes given a little rigging.
Yeah, there are lighter options for sure, and I mentioned that too. Something like the TT Aeon Li at one pound is an option that I've looked at many times. My goal was a, single do it all tent that I could use for any 3 season backpacking trip that gave me the best livable space, could set up on any surface, and was the lightest weight possible. This is what fit the bill.
I totally still want one and if I didn't have the big Agnes this would be a solid choice for me too
This looks amazing!
Good review, I'm curious as to how this tent handles condensation?
That tent looks nice. But the cost is too much for my wallet. Take Care and Keep Exploring The Outdoors.
Thanks!
I've been waiting for the DCF version to come out. But I have some questions.
How see thru is it? Think solo woman with head lamp on inside...
Also, how close to the ground are the vestibules when it's all closed up? Are you able to pitch it differently to raise or lower that? Thanks!
I recently bought this tent and are very pleased with the purchase.
As to privacy I'd say at night with a light inside the tent it is 80%-90% see thru. That said if you are worried about modesty then just turn the light off and do your thing.
Hi BG- I have this same tent and if privacy is a concern I would recommend purchasing TT's nylon inner liner. It will add visual protection over the main body of the tent and additionally help with the condensation. If you're curious, I simply love my tent; it's my favorite piece of gear!!
Hi Dev, this is the first time I've watched an in depth look at this option and I have to say it really ticks a lot of boxes. I can see why you went with it and I look forward to further videos with it in use. I'll check out the width at Tarptent as me and my wife like 130 cm minimum. I have some reservations about how it would take cross winds but that might be the trade off as it doesn't appear to have extra guying points like an MSR Access 2 for example? Anyway great no nonsense video, thanks. A
Great work and i love the tent :)
These are nice thought out and designed tents but honestly, I would pack a 3lb $150 tent before spending 700 on one of these. I do have a tarptent contrail but at my age and 6'-1 it is getting harder and harder every year to get in and out of. Im hoping they will do a tee pee style 1 or 2 man at some point where you can at least step into bending at waist instead of havin to get down on hands and knees to crawl in...
I love that it can be free-standing! How do you like it after a year+?
I know condensation is an issue with ANY single-walled tent, but how is it with this one?
good to see. at first I couldn't understand how this was going to be a winner. I thought to myself - but what about setting it up in slickrock country? then you did it. bravo. where did you film this?
Trust me, that was a huge consideration. I was just going to go with the Aeon Li, but as you know, slick rock and non freestanding tents are not friends.
Very cool purchase ! Nice !
I just bought the Rainbow Li.
Dyneema is expensive, but I'm done with silnylon tents. Too many nights with a sagging, rain soaked rainfly. I have the TT Stratospire Li and it's a bomb proof tent for above timberline, windy, heavy rain, and even snow conditions. About the same weight as the double rainbow Li, but It's a double wall trekking pole tent and huge for one person. Downside - It's not free standing and has a massive footprint. But you asked how we feel about Dyneema tents - I'm all in!
I have two Hilleberg tents and I haven’t found them to sag despite being silnylon. Maybe they use a better fabric; certainly they’re triple coated which may be part of it.
how is the abrasion resistance?
Long term review would be excellent
I do need to do one, thanks for the suggestion.
I’m waiting for a free standing dyneema tent that is storm worthy… with a zippered fly
Tons of space inside that tent. Maybe I can use that to help convince my wife to let me drop $700 on a tent! Awesome video Devin I’m looking forward to seeing you use this.
Does that use hiking poles along the bottom to make it free standing, also how does it handle condensation ?
Yes, trekking poles at least 55" in length to use the freestanding option.
As soon as I sleep inside my dyneema tent, the only noticeable and dramatic weight reduction happened on my bank account.
Have you had any concerns or issues with the durability of the Dyneema floor?
Not yet. I expect at some point for there to be a hole from normal use
I think the demand for affordable DCF gear is so high that it is a huge mistake for companies to not fill that hole. Etsy (as you know 😉) has lightweight outdoor gear, including DCF, that is good quality and affordable, however shelters are still priced astronomically. Fill. That. Gap.
That is a sweet tent dude! Dinky hahahahaha . Great review
ha ha! It's true!
Justin😁✊🔥
If go on vacation for one week at a hotel 100 dollar plus a night . so 700 is not so bad
could you do a video on the x-mid 2p pretty please
I would need to buy one first 😄
Regarding the discussion about this tent being made in China or (hopefully) in the USA, does ANYONE know a decent backpacking tent made in the USA?
Pretty cool for a million dollars!!! HAHA I would definitely consider dropping this kind of coin on a winter tent but dang a summer tent???? I think being a basecamper vs. a through hiker keeps me out of the loop on these.
It’s been out of stock for months 😨 They didn’t answering my email either😬
I hate these outside ridge pole designs it's just a GIANT leak prone area! Problem waiting to happen.. good luck on the trail!!(=✌💚
Man this would be a nice pick up!
I was thinking about this tent but I question how great the fabric is when a stick can puncture it.... any thoughts?
As with any piece of gear, you gotta know what the limitations are going to be. A stick definitely can poke through nylon as well and I've had it happen. Site selection is pretty important.
@@BackcountryExposure I suppose it depends whether it’s easy to repair afterwards? (I’m very impressed with Hillebergs’ ability to ‘self-heal’ for instance.)
Thank you for including your height in the review.
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After almost a year with this tent I truly feel it is one of the best tents on the market right now. It is so versatile...with the only barrier being footprint size but not an issue I've had to fight with much. And being able to use two 25" pads side by side is so nice compared to similar shelters that taper on the foot end. Price is big...but I feel like this was a shelter that if I paid for one time it would last me a good while. So far so good.
My biggest issue with dynema is how bulky it is. I like that more and more companies are coming out with interesting designs though.
At least with this tent I can get it pretty small, and as small as any of my two person silnylon tents. But I've seen others that are quite bulky.
@@BackcountryExposure I have the "two person" Marmot superalloy which I can really compress when I go bikepacking. I feel like dyneema would take up my whole handlebar roll. They are tempting though. Especially the double rainbow since it can be used as freestanding. Maybe one day lol
@@lakorai2 Yeah room wasn't my biggest concern haha I can *just* fit a second pad in there if I need to. The Durston tents definitely look like good value. I ended up going freestanding mostly because its a bit more versatile and suits my needs better with bikepacking and lots of places with platforms.
$700 whoa... and I just thought $300 for a custom quilt was ultimate stretch of my budget...LOL
How does this stack up against x mid pro?.
No idea. X Mid Pro isn’t released yet, or at least shipping yet. But there’s some core differences. Semi freestanding vs non freestanding. Single wall vs double wall. So they are really two very different tents. The weights are a bit different too. The X Mid is lighter, but that’s primarily due to not having any pole system. Foot print on the X Mid will be a bit larger though.
@@BackcountryExposure thanks for the swift response! Spring is coming I hope you put it to good use this year stay safe!
This looks tiny for 2 people. Did you try it for 2?
It's quite roomy for what it is. It's not ideal for two, but two 20" pads and if you slept opposite of each other it would work just fine. It's perfect for one person though.
@@BackcountryExposure My quest for a good 2p ultralight continues :( Tiger wall ul3 - would it hold up to a hail storm in the Unitahs?
sold out :(
just can't justify it for how much I will use it a couple times a summer/fall.
Found a lightweight for around hundred
Porch mode looks much more useful on the Copper Spur.
Totally, you have two zippers on the CS that creates a full awning.
@@BackcountryExposure very hard to find a tent that fits exactly what you want. Sorta like a mini version of a house search 🤣. Looking for a light weight, double walled, 2 p tent that is 50 inches wide on both ends, high up at both ends so we can sit up and play cards, hopefully with 4 people, (but just sleep 2) and not nylon cuz we are from a rainy part of the world and doesn’t break the bank. Thought the marmot tungsten ul 2p was gonna work but it narrows at the foot end. Gotta start sewing I guess 🤣
@@HM-gk3rq if you can find one in stock, you’ve pretty much described the Dan Durston Xmid 2p. (Assuming you don’t require your tent to be free standing). The only problem is the 2p version is completely out of stock right now.
@@jonsanford2515 we’ve have an x-mid 2p already and love it of course. It’s only really tall enough to sit and play cards right at the peak. Which is fine for two but I don’t think it’d work for 4. And getting another one for this summer seems unlikely.
I would LOVE if River Country Ptoducts made the Trekker 3 in Dyneema!! I would find a way to afford it. I love the material. Mauve if more people buy the price will start coming down.
Wow, I loved the features you showed. The ventilation adjustment and semi to freestanding solution - great versatility focused designs. I love the interior space too but I’m getting a copper spur for two reasons; price & gear pockets. Copper spur 2 here costs $700. Dyneema Tiger wall 2 costs $1,500.00. That’s a big nope! from me.
The workmanship is amazing. Nobody would guess that 6 and 7 year old child laborers made it with only a single meal of rice and water per day. Fun fact. They test the waterproofness by collecting the tears from new arrivals and then spraying them on the tents. After a few days, the children can no longer cry because it is too much work and they are dehydrated. Those Chinese don't let anything go to waste. Very eco-friendly.
This is the most ridiculous comment. Even if you’re trying to be funny.
@@BackcountryExposurehe’s 100% right. Chinese slave labor piece of shit tent
its basically like the tiger wall except no Y end and single wall. thats cool. but the fact that its made in china means it prob costs them like 100 bucks haha... i bet these tent companies are making an absolute KILLING on markup with these chinese products. agnes and sea to summit are made in china too.
Its a space tent for Mars. Three holes and its over
Own it and I’m just saying, don’t drink your whiskey while cooking with your Soto windmaster inside the porch 5 miles into the Uintas at night in a snowstorm! I’m just saying!
It's only worth it to the individual willing to spend that amount of money. If the individual can justify the expense then that is their choice...but I am not one of those.
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little bit expensive.. but good!
Super Kewl Devin. I'm excited to try out my new shelter to. I'm not ready for a DCF shelter myself, and I know the are the "Black Sheep" of backpacking shelters, but I have actually had good luck with River Country Products trekking pole tents, so I just picked up their "Trekker Tent 2V". I'm thinking this may be a winner for winter backpacking, and maybe more. We'll just have to see. For 50$ I had to give it a shot.
You were thinking. Tax write off!! LOL
Why not Metric? :D
Uhhh $700.00?!! On a backpacking tent?!! Were I to do that, my wife would say "Hey I hope you enjoy living in your new $700.00 house!!" Gonna have to pass on this one.
For how often I get out on the trail, it's actually a pretty small investment for the weight savings and living space. You could say the same thing about spending $700 on a TV, but no one bats an eye at spending way more than that on a TV. :)
30 oz. for a single wall tent? Pass.
When it fits within the goals of your gear system, then it’s awesome.
@@BackcountryExposure Agreed. I hope you love it. Thanks for the vid.
half a stimulus cheque
Yes the storage is a ñonexistant noñ existence ßadness for the $$$$:: 😢,
Child labor nooo
Hope the people working for slave wages in China get to see how impressed you are with their work.lol
Too expensive don't get my money...
Sewn in China???? Really???? Well there goes that idea then.
Broaden your understanding of products that come from quality factories in China. Thinking that everything made in China is crap doesn’t do any good. This tent is incredible quality.
@@BackcountryExposure They were only sewing locally but by what your saying are now also sewn in China. How many local jobs are lost?? I didnt mention quality at all.
@@timphoto83ec you didn’t say anything about jobs…
very good review ....thank you