Functionally operates just as it should ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxiiMg_x4gIWeXMWfBnDdRnME4qJUAva4w holds pressure perfectly when not in use. Glad one of the other reviews pointed out that the bottom pressure release valve was open; thought it was defective at first.
Thank You for making this video and explaining so a first timer can understand it. Very helpful! One question if you have time. When you are painting and I will be using a 60 Gallon single stage compressor that meets the cfn of the spray gun. When the compressor does kick on while painting should I stop painting and let the compressor recharge? My first thought is to stop and let it catch up before going on. To give you an idea of my project I will be painting a 1967 Mustang Base paint and Clear Coat. I will be painting Hood,Front Fenders, Doors off the car and then tackle rest of the car. At least that’s the plan, any thoughts from you would be welcomed.
It’s a double edge sword. Stopping and letting it recharge air pressure can help keep spray pattern consistant but stopping and starting will lead to less consistant paint job. With your 60 gallon the pressure loss probably isn’t going to be a huge deal.
Perfect explanation for beginners. I almost just bought the portable pancake one today for the price and portability, but I'm glad I didn't. Now I'm looking for bigger. Thank you.
What an outstanding explanation regarding CFM (cubic ft.per min), as well as horsepower, and tank size. It definitely set specific criteria for novice painter such as myself. I'm using a LvLp R-500 spraygun instead so I have a bit of an advantage for my paint projects. Great job!
I am DIY lover, i have been looking for an air compressor for a long time but don't know what things to consider. This video helps me a lot! Thank you so much
Better to opt to rent a larger compressor for one time usage. Why? Because if you are right at your required cfm rating the compressor will be in a state of constantly running which generates heat. That heat will cause your air to be hot going into a cooler tank where it will CONDENSE and release water that can cause major issues in your paint job. For the above reason you should always have a water separator and have bled your tank prior to painting.
If a lvlp for example the spray it 33000k needs 3.5 - 4.0 cfm @ 40 psi and for example a kobalt 26 gallon compressor can supply 5.5 cfm @ 40 psi it’s simple. could you paint a whole car?
LVLP gun have BEST hobby user in garage paint what paint all come perfect. i has paint 20 car my new LVLP gun and best than old shit de vilbiss HVLP gun. no newer can paint good before, new low volume gun have perfect. small compressor. you have super small comp if air come only 5,5 CFM normal cheap small comp have 7-9CFM air out.
Hey man love the way you answer all the questions out there, but in my country we don't use cfm we use litter Pur minutes so can you do a video on it or comment here i have a 360 lpm tank 8 bar 4 hp 2850 rpm please help me thanks adam.🙏🏼
Great information! Thanks for making it easy to understand. I've recently started chainsaw carving, so I want a compressor that I can use for an airbrush, as an air gun, with a brad nailer, possibly a sander, and I'd like it to be able to handle a paint gun as well for finishing projects. Thanks for sharing this.😊👍
Pay attention to the hole sizes and number of holes on the air caps on spray guns. Smaller use less air but also means smaller fan size. About the highest you can get for a 110v compressor will be around 8ish cfm @40psi which limits gun selection. The r500 that is claimed to use 3.9cfm has been tested by some utubers and actually uses in the 7-8cfm range and higher for clear coat at higher pressures. Some conventional/siphon guns use 9cfm or less so it can be done with a good quality high output 110v compressor you just won't be able to use many full size guns. Most 110v compressors aren't designed for continuous use, ones that are cost a lot new.
@@BulliKid You are welcome. I went to Harbor Freight today to get the gun and the compressor. The compressor is on sale for $149 and out of stock. I will hound them until I get one! You don't know how many guns and compressors you sold for them!
Whats upp bro. Cool video. I have a question im looking into buying a spray with the following specifications : Air consumption 2.4 to 3.9 CFM @ 30 PSI Working pressure 28-45 PSI. Maximum pressure 60 PSI What size compressor do you recommend for this ??? Help. Pls thx. I will be using to paint a guitar.
Hullo Kid I really appreciate how you explain so much to us. Your attitude is very good. I like how you want to learn from others as well as share your opinions. Hope you keep doing more videos exactly this way - great work.
if you have a smaller tank and want to do hvlp is just cobble on a stronger pump and motor, because oddly enough unless you go well over 20 cfm a new stronger pump + motor is still far cheaper than a whole new 80+ gallon tank which of course usually come with stronger pumps and motors. that will work for just painting which lower pressure 20-30 psi means higher scfm but if you're needing to use sustained air tools better have like a 80+ gallon I wouldn't even bother with a 60
adjust the pressure cut off and cut in at the on off switch, change the safety valve at 170psi, adjust cut off pressure at around 140 psi to 150 psi, and cut in will be around 110 psi , so that will have enough air for spray, but need to take care the heat on the compressor, also need a water and oil filter.
I wanted to watch this video 2 years ago. I spent a lot of time googling both in English and Japanese to figure out what air compressor I need to buy to paint my car.
I bought the Harbor Frieght 10 gal compressor couple years ago. I think it will be ok for my paint gun. Using to top coat my 83 FXWG Fenders and tanks.
Awesome bro I definitely needed this info I have a 10 gallon stark with a 3.5 hp motor so I should be okay I think I’ll try and paint a quarter at a time or something and let it recharge
That’s an hvlp gun you have there. What about an lvlp gun? And can you recommend some lvlp guns if they’d be a better choice with a smaller compressor. Thanks…
Hello sir, another question if I may... I saw a compressor to buy but there is no indication of what CFM it has.. The major specifications are as follows.. 2.5Hp, 115psi, 8bar, and oil lubricated.. What do you think is 8bar?? Thank you so much..
Hi, I have got a spray gun called sprayit 3300 and it request 3.5 to 3.9 cfm. I'm thinking about getting 24 litre compressor that have 5.1cfm so is that good enough for what I need to do spray paint on my car??
Most of the compressors I look at here in the UK only list the CFM but not '@ 40psi' or whatever the pressure is that can be maintained. The other info is just max pressure like 8 bar and tank volume. Wouldn't know how to work this out but it seems a pretty important to know this spec.
Amazing job! you not only explained the basics of paint gun and compressor required to operate, what I badly needed to learn but also went and added comparison of harbor freight compressors that a lot of us home DYIs would actually get their parts from. Thank you! you saved a lot of time on research and asking around!
I do appreciate the detailed explanation. Just bought a porter and cable pancake compressor. I'd like something that can be used for painting and staining as well as flooring. Be nice if I could buy one unit so I'll keep looking.
@@BulliKid My 10 -1/2 hp 120 gallon tank compressor broke down Right as I stated a paint job , I had the small compromise I hooked it into a 60 gallon tank Let it build up and spray the 1st coat By the time it was ready for the 2nd coat the compressor was built up again , and so on. I ended up painting 3 cars like that until I could get the big compressor fixed. It worked the small compressor hard But in the end it's about the tank volume.
How about linking up 2 smaller compressors to get the cfm you need ? I have a Makita 2.5 hp/4 gal, rated at 4.2 cfm@90 psi, and another cheaper Motomaster 1.5 hp oilless compressor, which has 3.5 cfm @ 90 psi. Total of 7.7 cfm. I am thinking of picking up a portable 20 gal tank and feeding both compressors into it and plugged into 2 separate 20 amp circuits. Has anyone tried this ?
What air compressor would work with the Black Widow HTE 1.3 tip spray gun because it says it is 12 CFM for the Black Widow HTE. I saw a professional guy say he used a 80 gallon air compressor. I know they cost a lot.
@@BulliKid plan on doing some car doors eventually to try to learn how to paint better. But eventually rather get the 80 gallon 7.5 horse power 2 stage air compressor because a professional auto painter UA-cam said at least 60 gallon and a 2 stage air compressor but eventually one day when get better painting want to be doing whole cars and trucks painting so I will eventually get the 80 gallon air compressor. Also next time a different spray gun too I like the Black Widow HTE spray gun from what I saw people painting with it on UA-cam.
many hobby and pro use cheap comp about 7-9CFM air out. minimum, more better, my comp have 9CFM and cost 100 $ new in hobby market tools. LVLP gun have perfect small comp need only 4-7CFM air, old shit de vilbiss need 14-17CFM air and small compressor not can newer paint good this.1,3 tip normal good car paint. tank size have important min 50 liter. no need alltime wait fill tank again air full.
The 40 psi # is a little deceptive. The gun needs 50 to 70 psi of line pressure, 40psi is at the aircap. So if the compressor can deliver 6 cfm at 40 it's going to be less than 6 cfm if you need a line pressure of 50 to 70psi. Also small home owner type compressors are not made to run continuously. They have a duty cycle of 50 or 70%. Which means out of 10 minutes they are meant to run no more than 5 or 7 minutes. If your compressor is oilless or direct drive oil lubricated it's duty cycle will be less than 100%. To run a gun continuously needing 6 cfm you should be looking at a compressor with oil lubricated pump that has at least 3.5 hp and a 30 gallon tank..
pressure not important gun need only 1-3 bar pressure,all normal comp, basic have make 8bar setting max. tank capasity have important have ower 50 liter normal hobby user. and use LVLP gun no need expensive too big comp, only what need know have air SCFM how much can make air.
So I have the 26gal compressor u showed. And I have the TCP Global pro 1.3mm hvlp gun ($59) so on the compressor knob do I open it all the way up and adjust at the gun?
Fantastic video, can you help ? I have a 2hp, delivering 4.6 Cfm and 178 litres per minute. That is the only information on the unit . Can i work out the pressure that the Cfm delivers at. I want to paint small areas ie bumpers,and single panels on my car. Many thanks its brilliant the way you explain to us.
you need LVLP gun. HP not tell anythink at comp have good or not, only need know CFM air how much can made, need normal 5-9 CFM comp if want paint. whit LVLP gun , old normal HVLP gun need lot more air 14-18 CFM minimum.
Thank you for liking my earlier comment:) I have a quick question. Here is my scenario: 21 gallon McGraw air compressor, using a Campbell Hausefield low level gravity fed spray gun. I plan on paining a 91 Ford Taurus(the car is in one of videos on my UA-cam channel). What do you think? Is it possible if I open the drain valve just enough so the water escapes out the bottom, could this work on my car? Just curious. Thank you so much☺
It all depends on the finish Primers are thicker and may need a bigger tip to spray better 1.6-1.8 Base coats and clear coats can use a 1.2 -1.4 The smaller the tip the finer the spray pattern the less orange peal.
@@BulliKid thanks for your advice. I am using a 24L 9.6 CFM 2.5HP air compressor with a 10mm ID X 10m hose and have owned this for a while. I haven't been too impressed with my recent rattle can jobs, but now I feel pretty motivated to try out the air guns when I buy them. Alloy respray on the to do list. I'm thinking my setup with the air hose could do with some adjustment. Perhaps the inner diameter, or length isn't the best for my compressors performance
Ok I have a question regarding CFM. Is CFM related to air being made/pushed out by the engine when the tank is empty? So if I have a CFM that isn't good enough can't I jus wait for my tank to fill up and continue spraying?
@@BulliKid Okay I'll still go with what I bought now and if in 2-3 years when I do my bumper doesn't work out I'll probs invest in a new one. I'm just failing to understand how CFM changes with PSI, like if you target 90 PSI your tank isn't always 90 PSI know what I mean so how can you base of your 90 PSI CFM rating for tools. Confuses me,
Yea it is confusing. I sprayed multiple times smaller bumpers or areas no problem. The issue is if you paint a big part and are trying to lay a wet coat you will run out of the Proper volume. And when you are low in volume output your atomization will change and you may spit paint out. Ect.
@@BulliKid Ok thanks I'll keep my small 6 gal one for now and when I'll really paint my bumper guess I'll change then for a longer and bigger lasting one.
WOW, exactly what I needed to know!! I am going to primer and paint parts of my vw beetle and this video was very informative! I think this size tank will do fine, for the trunk of my bug and the fan parts of the engine. Great video and really enjoyed that you explained everything, thank you, from California.
Nice vid man. I refer to the air gun in the vid. Can this compressor handle it: 2.5 hp, 2,800 rpm, 195 l/m, 50 litre, 8 bar. I don’t know how to convert it to such cfm (6 cfm @ 40 psi). Please advise. Thanks.
BULLI KID I just about into buying the compressor. That’s the common nos. I see at compressor in Malaysia. I’m looking for a do it all compressor (Spray gun, paint, torque wrench, workshop tools, etc.) with the lowest spec that can handle it all.
any compressor that has no aftercooling is not intended for car painting period ! when the reserve tank becomes hot, water does not condensate in the tank but in the shop circuit and very often past all the filtration devices so it sputters right in the paint job. When you have a continuous duty as spray gun or pneumtic sander feeding, the compressor should have sufficient Oomph to refill the tank to the nominal pressure and have a break before restart. If you use a cheaper compressor, you should have at least a provision to take care of the condensate
This can be compensated against with these smaller compressors (red or black central pneumatic 21-29 gal)by lvlp guns & constant running scenario with the drain valve at the bottom open letting all the moisture drain from the tank. This is a little tougher on it but it can handle it providing its been maintained. Always use a desiccant dryer & inline filter with regulator.
Victor Gutierrez I appreciate the comment! Seems to be a Good video and is starting to trend slowly. Glad I can help. I was confused when I was getting started myself.
@@BulliKid I am now in the same way as you before, but after I saw your video give more knowledge in how to pick an air compressor right know I already order a Husky 20gal 200 psi, I think is 5.0 CMP @40. I try to use it with the Purple HF air gun just to paint around the fence and nothing fancy. thank you and keep going with more videos.
Daniel I think something like I have in the video is acceptable. But if you are going to purchase a compressor and not use something you have I would get something bigger because you will grow and may eventually move up to bigger projects. 20g mid range and 40 gallon for full cars.
Hell yea good luck! I started painting a old broken bumper I found on the side of the road and used Rustoleum oil based paint to just get the steps in order. Only way from there.
thanks for the clear information!!! what would you recommand for painting a motorcycle?? a supersport so a lot of fairings, but still not as much to paint as a car
Yanik Corneau I think you would be fine with something like in the video. Motorcycle parts are small, should suffice. But always , the bigger the compressor the better for painting.
no matter what paint gun take air alltime same, normal cheap HVLP gun need 14-17 SCFM air out comp, expensive. hobby user use better gun LVLP gun no need air lot only 5-7SCFM this have only important what u need know compressor, HP not tell anythink and tank capasity need be big have comfortable spray. no need wait sometime lot tank fill full.
Great video! Can u help me a bit. I'm going to buy the McGraw compressor which is 4scfm @ 90psi and the gun I want to get is SPECS: operation pressure 40 PSI; Working pressure 10 PSI; Average air consumption 4.5 CFM. The compressor is 125psi max so could I get away the the .5 cfm difference?
@@BulliKid well I've been paiting my car with aerosol "grigio telesto" it's a metallic that looks real good. It used the spraymax 2k clear coat but they are $20 a can. I figure I'll just find a cheap compressor and just clear coat the entire car with a real gun instead.
I would recommend practicing spraying a clear from the gun. And getting a good speed reducer for your climate. You need too make sure you don’t get runs. It’s easier to get runs if you don’t know the gun settings or don’t have much experience. I have been dealing with these things myself. Metallica should be ok to paint panel by panel. If you were spraying any pearl in the paint they don’t recommend panel by panel.
Functionally operates just as it should ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxiiMg_x4gIWeXMWfBnDdRnME4qJUAva4w holds pressure perfectly when not in use. Glad one of the other reviews pointed out that the bottom pressure release valve was open; thought it was defective at first.
This is the BEST VIDEO SO FAR what i found on UA-cam.
Pointed !!!!
Straightforward !!!!
Clear Enough!!!!
Thank you Mate.
I appreciate that comment my man!
Glad I can help!!!
Thank You for making this video and explaining so a first timer can understand it. Very helpful! One question if you have time. When you are painting and I will be using a 60 Gallon single stage compressor that meets the cfn of the spray gun. When the compressor does kick on while painting should I stop painting and let the compressor recharge? My first thought is to stop and let it catch up before going on. To give you an idea of my project I will be painting a 1967 Mustang Base paint and Clear Coat. I will be painting Hood,Front Fenders, Doors off the car and then tackle rest of the car. At least that’s the plan, any thoughts from you would be welcomed.
It’s a double edge sword. Stopping and letting it recharge air pressure can help keep spray pattern consistant but stopping and starting will lead to less consistant paint job. With your 60 gallon the pressure loss probably isn’t going to be a huge deal.
Thanks for this... Right on point I almost bought a compressor that wouldn't do the job. Was one click away
Glad I can help!! 💪
Best video I've seen describing the specs you need on an air compressor. It's overlooked all the time on DIY videos for painting
Thank you!!
Good info, thanks.
This was a HUGE HELP in boosting my understanding of ratings and requirements.
Perfect explanation for beginners. I almost just bought the portable pancake one today for the price and portability, but I'm glad I didn't. Now I'm looking for bigger. Thank you.
What an outstanding explanation regarding CFM (cubic ft.per min), as well as horsepower, and tank size. It definitely set specific criteria for novice painter such as myself. I'm using a LvLp R-500 spraygun instead so I have a bit of an advantage for my paint projects. Great job!
Lol I'm totally buying the same equipment at harbor freight. You're video was just the information I wanted. Thanks man.
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Hey that was pretty straight forward for me,now I got the idea how it actually works, thank you
I am DIY lover, i have been looking for an air compressor for a long time but don't know what things to consider. This video helps me a lot! Thank you so much
Thank you for watching and I appreciate the feedback!
Better to opt to rent a larger compressor for one time usage. Why? Because if you are right at your required cfm rating the compressor will be in a state of constantly running which generates heat. That heat will cause your air to be hot going into a cooler tank where it will CONDENSE and release water that can cause major issues in your paint job.
For the above reason you should always have a water separator and have bled your tank prior to painting.
You mean..bleed the tank after painting..Not just to keep water off the lines,but to lessen the tank from damaging rust..
Like someone's already commented, this is the sort of all-in-one video that I've been looking for. Thanks for posting this.
Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate it
If a lvlp for example the spray it 33000k needs 3.5 - 4.0 cfm @ 40 psi and for example a kobalt 26 gallon compressor can supply 5.5 cfm @ 40 psi it’s simple. could you paint a whole car?
On paper yes. In real life.... results can vary
LVLP gun have BEST hobby user in garage paint what paint all come perfect. i has paint 20 car my new LVLP gun and best than old shit de vilbiss HVLP gun. no newer can paint good before, new low volume gun have perfect. small compressor. you have super small comp if air come only 5,5 CFM normal cheap small comp have 7-9CFM air out.
Finally.. what I’ve been looking for. Thanks mate.
Welcome!! ✅✅✅
What should be the minimum horse power, cfm and tank size for it to run properly for painting the whole car.
Those purple harbor freight guns use a lot more than 6cfm and require higher pressure for good atomization.
Hey man love the way you answer all the questions out there, but in my country we don't use cfm we use litter Pur minutes so can you do a video on it or comment here i have a 360 lpm tank 8 bar 4 hp 2850 rpm please help me thanks adam.🙏🏼
Best video I seen you clearly explained all about the right compressor for each job. Thank you !!!
I appreciate the comment!! Thanks
This info is excellent, helps me determine what is the correct compresor for all my needs
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Great information! Thanks for making it easy to understand. I've recently started chainsaw carving, so I want a compressor that I can use for an airbrush, as an air gun, with a brad nailer, possibly a sander, and I'd like it to be able to handle a paint gun as well for finishing projects. Thanks for sharing this.😊👍
Thanks for the guide man, but I have a question, does 13 gallons air compressor can do the paint job although it's a small tank size?
Pay attention to the hole sizes and number of holes on the air caps on spray guns. Smaller use less air but also means smaller fan size. About the highest you can get for a 110v compressor will be around 8ish cfm @40psi which limits gun selection. The r500 that is claimed to use 3.9cfm has been tested by some utubers and actually uses in the 7-8cfm range and higher for clear coat at higher pressures. Some conventional/siphon guns use 9cfm or less so it can be done with a good quality high output 110v compressor you just won't be able to use many full size guns. Most 110v compressors aren't designed for continuous use, ones that are cost a lot new.
Probably one of the best videos I have watched on UA-cam in a while. Awesome info and is exactly what I was looking for.
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Excellent breakdown of compressors and what we need for paint guns
Excellent! I watched many videos before you hit the nail on the head. Just what I needed to know before buying a compressor. Thanks!!
Thanks and I really appreciate the positive comment!
@@BulliKid You are welcome. I went to Harbor Freight today to get the gun and the compressor. The compressor is on sale for $149 and out of stock. I will hound them until I get one! You don't know how many guns and compressors you sold for them!
Hahah :)
Whats upp bro. Cool video. I have a question im looking into buying a spray with the following specifications : Air consumption 2.4 to 3.9 CFM @ 30 PSI
Working pressure 28-45 PSI. Maximum pressure 60 PSI
What size compressor do you recommend for this ??? Help. Pls thx. I will be using to paint a guitar.
A guitar paint job doesn’t require much. Anything 8gallon would suffice.
I’m doing wood working and looking into a finishing nailer. This video was a really helpful explanation. Thanks.
Great thank you for the comment. What paint do you recommend for wood ? I was thinking of spraying some furniture in the future.
Hullo Kid I really appreciate how you explain so much to us. Your attitude is very good. I like how you want to learn from others as well as share your opinions. Hope you keep doing more videos exactly this way - great work.
Second Looks For Men thanks bud! I appreciate the positive comments. I keep it real! Happy new year!
if you have a smaller tank and want to do hvlp is just cobble on a stronger pump and motor, because oddly enough unless you go well over 20 cfm a new stronger pump + motor is still far cheaper than a whole new 80+ gallon tank which of course usually come with stronger pumps and motors. that will work for just painting which lower pressure 20-30 psi means higher scfm but if you're needing to use sustained air tools better have like a 80+ gallon I wouldn't even bother with a 60
adjust the pressure cut off and cut in at the on off switch, change the safety valve at 170psi, adjust cut off pressure at around 140 psi to 150 psi, and cut in will be around 110 psi , so that will have enough air for spray, but need to take care the heat on the compressor, also need a water and oil filter.
Sky Wu that sounds like a good way to keep the velocity moving!
hahaha too high pressure not newer use. all compressor have setting normal max pressure 110-120 psi. no more, paint gun need only 30-60 psi setting.
Thanks for that, well explained and easy to understand even with the cold and lawn mower on the go. Tidy.
Appreciate it.
Just looking for help on a quick question: If a compressor says 5.4 scfm @ 90 psi, does that mean it will have let’s say 6 or 7 scfm @ 70 psi?
I wanted to watch this video 2 years ago. I spent a lot of time googling both in English and Japanese to figure out what air compressor I need to buy to paint my car.
Thanks for watching. Glad I can help!
could you try LVLP spray guns? is it possible to paint auto parts using such guns?
Yes those work better with smaller compressors
Still relevant and great info ... Thanks for sharing
I bought the Harbor Frieght 10 gal compressor couple years ago. I think it will be ok for my paint gun. Using to top coat my 83 FXWG Fenders and tanks.
Art Warmanen yah should be fine for small parts for sure!
Awesome bro I definitely needed this info I have a 10 gallon stark with a 3.5 hp motor so I should be okay I think I’ll try and paint a quarter at a time or something and let it recharge
Eric White that will work!!!! Thanks for the comment!
Thanks, you were very informative about the gun and compressor.
No problem. Thanks for watching.
This is good information to have before purchasing a paint air sprayer for a Harbor Freight 20 gal compressor. Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
That’s an hvlp gun you have there. What about an lvlp gun? And can you recommend some lvlp guns if they’d be a better choice with a smaller compressor. Thanks…
LVLP would work better. I belive there is a “sprayit” LVLP but I cannot recommend any because have never used them.
This is exactly the information I was looking for. Thanks man.
Ro Bars glad I can help! Thanks for the comment. I appreciate the positive feedback!
Mine too.. Thank you for the video.. If I will be spray painting bike frames, does 8 gallon compressor enough?
Should be enough. I would recommend a smaller gun with a 1mm tip
@@BulliKid thanks a looooooooooot! God bless you.. Jesus loves you, hoping you know it.. 🤜🏼
Hello sir, another question if I may... I saw a compressor to buy but there is no indication of what CFM it has.. The major specifications are as follows.. 2.5Hp, 115psi, 8bar, and oil lubricated..
What do you think is 8bar?? Thank you so much..
Hi, I have got a spray gun called sprayit 3300 and it request 3.5 to 3.9 cfm. I'm thinking about getting 24 litre compressor that have 5.1cfm so is that good enough for what I need to do spray paint on my car??
Should I get 24l or 50l??
Most of the compressors I look at here in the UK only list the CFM but not '@ 40psi' or whatever the pressure is that can be maintained. The other info is just max pressure like 8 bar and tank volume. Wouldn't know how to work this out but it seems a pretty important to know this spec.
Seems like but I sprayed bigger things with this and u less you need a nice finish it still will lay down.
Fantastic vudeo pal really educational... thank you
Is that Central Pneumatic brand good? The prices seemed pretty good from your video.
It’s a budget brand. Only time will tell.
Amazing job! you not only explained the basics of paint gun and compressor required to operate, what I badly needed to learn but also went and added comparison of harbor freight compressors that a lot of us home DYIs would actually get their parts from. Thank you! you saved a lot of time on research and asking around!
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Can that gun be used for a paint job on a front bumper? Used for primer paint and clear?
Yea but it is not the best gun. It won’t give you the best finish.
So basically starting with a 20 gallon or less I should use a lvlp spray paint gun that way I can play with the air pressure better
Yes.
I do appreciate the detailed explanation. Just bought a porter and cable pancake compressor. I'd like something that can be used for painting and staining as well as flooring. Be nice if I could buy one unit so I'll keep looking.
Thanks for the feedback! Yes that small compressor won’t get you anywhere.
Hello this is very helpful so if I get a 20 gallon compressor does it need to be a gas or electric?
Dogman T. Ya most likely going to be electric. Which is fine.
@@BulliKid ok thank BuLLI KID you the man lol!
Im planning to open up a small business.
Repainting guitars and bicycle, motorcycles frames 6cfm @ 40 psi, 2horse power would be good enough?
Yes should be just fine for those small panels
What kind of compressor do I need to spray interior panels??
Interior panels like wood are different. People use turbine systems to spray that. The plaint is much thicker.
I've painted over all
Car's with a 2 1/2 hp
8 gallon compressor
And I do this for a living.
And the quality out of the gun?
@@BulliKid
My 10 -1/2 hp 120 gallon tank compressor broke down Right as I stated a paint job , I had the small compromise I hooked it into a 60 gallon tank Let it build up and spray the 1st coat By the time it was ready for the 2nd coat the compressor was built up again , and so on. I ended up painting 3 cars like that until I could get the big compressor fixed.
It worked the small compressor hard
But in the end it's about the tank volume.
How about linking up 2 smaller compressors to get the cfm you need ? I have a Makita 2.5 hp/4 gal, rated at 4.2 cfm@90 psi, and another cheaper Motomaster 1.5 hp oilless compressor, which has 3.5 cfm @ 90 psi. Total of 7.7 cfm. I am thinking of picking up a portable 20 gal tank and feeding both compressors into it and plugged into 2 separate 20 amp circuits. Has anyone tried this ?
Hi. I am woman painter. I need a compressor for cabinet kitchen doors.
Can you help me with the specifications?
Do you have the spray gun yet?
Compre un compressor de 175 psi and 20 gallons
The spray gun Aurita brand 1.7
Hlpv
What air compressor would work with the Black Widow HTE 1.3 tip spray gun because it says it is 12 CFM for the Black Widow HTE. I saw a professional guy say he used a 80 gallon air compressor. I know they cost a lot.
What do you plan on spraying?
@@BulliKid plan on doing some car doors eventually to try to learn how to paint better. But eventually rather get the 80 gallon 7.5 horse power 2 stage air compressor because a professional auto painter UA-cam said at least 60 gallon and a 2 stage air compressor but eventually one day when get better painting want to be doing whole cars and trucks painting so I will eventually get the 80 gallon air compressor. Also next time a different spray gun too I like the Black Widow HTE spray gun from what I saw people painting with it on UA-cam.
Yah in your case a better compressor is better for your long term goal.
many hobby and pro use cheap comp about 7-9CFM air out. minimum, more better, my comp have 9CFM and cost 100 $ new in hobby market tools. LVLP gun have perfect small comp need only 4-7CFM air, old shit de vilbiss need 14-17CFM air and small compressor not can newer paint good this.1,3 tip normal good car paint. tank size have important min 50 liter. no need alltime wait fill tank again air full.
There is a difference between the tool's CFM and compressor's CFM. Consumer-grade compressors usually use 'Standard' CFM.
@@yadtahir9443 how would standard cfm compare to regular cfm?
@@BulliKid AvE has a great video in this regard. The title of the video is 'Why are CFM ratings BS?' I can't post the link here unfortunately.
can i use aircompressor for tires on my spray gun? cause they are cheaper,
Cheap results.
Nailed it. Great job. If you could do a tutorial on how to present a video for the rest of UA-camrs, it'd be aight.
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What if I have 4500 psi in my take will a 3 gallon tank be enough
3 gallon is way to small
Buying the right compressor is confusing. Thanks for adding to my knowledge. :-)
And if you have any extra information for me to learn please add!
Thanks for watching again!!!
I agree. Great information and super helpful. Thanks for sharing! Learning a lot from you. You are a excellent teacher, sir! Keep it up.😎
The 40 psi # is a little deceptive. The gun needs 50 to 70 psi of line pressure, 40psi is at the aircap. So if the compressor can deliver 6 cfm at 40 it's going to be less than 6 cfm if you need a line pressure of 50 to 70psi. Also small home owner type compressors are not made to run continuously. They have a duty cycle of 50 or 70%. Which means out of 10 minutes they are meant to run no more than 5 or 7 minutes. If your compressor is oilless or direct drive oil lubricated it's duty cycle will be less than 100%. To run a gun continuously needing 6 cfm you should be looking at a compressor with oil lubricated pump that has at least 3.5 hp and a 30 gallon tank..
pressure not important gun need only 1-3 bar pressure,all normal comp, basic have make 8bar setting max. tank capasity have important have ower 50 liter normal hobby user. and use LVLP gun no need expensive too big comp, only what need know have air SCFM how much can make air.
So I have the 26gal compressor u showed. And I have the TCP Global pro 1.3mm hvlp gun ($59) so on the compressor knob do I open it all the way up and adjust at the gun?
Yeah I would keep the compressor open all the way or at least way above 40-50 psi
Fantastic video, can you help ?
I have a 2hp, delivering 4.6 Cfm and 178 litres per minute.
That is the only information on the unit .
Can i work out the pressure that the Cfm delivers at.
I want to paint small areas ie bumpers,and single panels on my car.
Many thanks its brilliant the way you explain to us.
you need LVLP gun. HP not tell anythink at comp have good or not, only need know CFM air how much can made, need normal 5-9 CFM comp if want paint. whit LVLP gun , old normal HVLP gun need lot more air 14-18 CFM minimum.
Thank you for liking my earlier comment:) I have a quick question. Here is my scenario: 21 gallon McGraw air compressor, using a Campbell Hausefield low level gravity fed spray gun. I plan on paining a 91 Ford Taurus(the car is in one of videos on my UA-cam channel). What do you think? Is it possible if I open the drain valve just enough so the water escapes out the bottom, could this work on my car? Just curious. Thank you so much☺
Well you still may get water spots in the paint. You would later have to try to buff them out. I would suggest at least some good filtration.
@@BulliKid Lol I was thinking the same thing. I know harbor freight sells water filters. I plan on getting one. Thank you so much for helping me:)
I picked up a 5hp 24gal compressor that says 11.5 cfm at 40 psi
That sounds promising!
Good information here you have put any fear of mine to rest...I have 9.6 CFM
You have a nice compressor there buddy!
2021 now that air compressor still working fine ??
Yes it is.
@@BulliKid may i know what oil you using? 0w30 ???
In the compressor? I’m not sure. It’s original
Learned so much ! You are a great teacher . Blessings and mercy to you from my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ !
awesome video, my one qusetion is what sort of nozzle gives the best results? A gun i'm looking at currently has 1.4mm nozzle, is it important?
It all depends on the finish
Primers are thicker and may need a bigger tip to spray better 1.6-1.8
Base coats and clear coats can use a 1.2 -1.4
The smaller the tip the finer the spray pattern the less orange peal.
@@BulliKid thanks for your advice. I am using a 24L 9.6 CFM 2.5HP air compressor with a 10mm ID X 10m hose and have owned this for a while. I haven't been too impressed with my recent rattle can jobs, but now I feel pretty motivated to try out the air guns when I buy them. Alloy respray on the to do list.
I'm thinking my setup with the air hose could do with some adjustment. Perhaps the inner diameter, or length isn't the best for my compressors performance
But like you mentioned... I should find an air gun that meets the requirements of my compressor
Ok I have a question regarding CFM. Is CFM related to air being made/pushed out by the engine when the tank is empty? So if I have a CFM that isn't good enough can't I jus wait for my tank to fill up and continue spraying?
Yes you would have to spray a little. And have the pressure refill and spray again. The lower the pressure in air in the tank the cfm may change.
@@BulliKid Okay I'll still go with what I bought now and if in 2-3 years when I do my bumper doesn't work out I'll probs invest in a new one. I'm just failing to understand how CFM changes with PSI, like if you target 90 PSI your tank isn't always 90 PSI know what I mean so how can you base of your 90 PSI CFM rating for tools. Confuses me,
Yea it is confusing. I sprayed multiple times smaller bumpers or areas no problem. The issue is if you paint a big part and are trying to lay a wet coat you will run out of the Proper volume. And when you are low in volume output your atomization will change and you may spit paint out. Ect.
@@BulliKid Ok thanks I'll keep my small 6 gal one for now and when I'll really paint my bumper guess I'll change then for a longer and bigger lasting one.
Thanks bro, You help so much. everything I NEEDED ALL IN ONE VIDEO. THANKS
lewisHelps no problem my friend! Glad I can help! I was confused in the beginning also!
WOW, exactly what I needed to know!! I am going to primer and paint parts of my vw beetle and this video was very informative!
I think this size tank will do fine, for the trunk of my bug and the fan parts of the engine. Great video and really enjoyed that you explained everything, thank you, from California.
I enjoyed the comment! Helps my small channel grow. Good luck on your future projects.
What a great eye opener! Thank you!
Thanks for watching !
Go to the 5 minute mark - that is where the real info starts. Thank you for the education
Thanks for watching and comment!
can you please update your links ? the adapter one is dead.
Thanks will look into it
Will 13Gal/50ltrs,2.5hp,8bar compressor can do the job if im painting small cabinets and steel post?
BAPHOMET 666 I painted a cabinet and I used my compressor and I felt it was struggling.
Nice vid man. I refer to the air gun in the vid. Can this compressor handle it: 2.5 hp, 2,800 rpm, 195 l/m, 50 litre, 8 bar. I don’t know how to convert it to such cfm (6 cfm @ 40 psi). Please advise. Thanks.
Hey man yah those numbers I am unfamiliar with and don’t know the conversions. What are you painting and is your compressor bigger then mine?
BULLI KID I just about into buying the compressor. That’s the common nos. I see at compressor in Malaysia. I’m looking for a do it all compressor (Spray gun, paint, torque wrench, workshop tools, etc.) with the lowest spec that can handle it all.
6CFM comp, small need LVLP gun this use 4-7 CFM air. old normal gun HVLP need 14-18 CFM air. gun need adjust only 2-4 bar . 50 liter and more better.
any compressor that has no aftercooling is not intended for car painting period !
when the reserve tank becomes hot, water does not condensate in the tank but in the shop circuit and very often past all the filtration devices so it sputters right in the paint job.
When you have a continuous duty as spray gun or pneumtic sander feeding, the compressor should have sufficient Oomph to refill the tank to the nominal pressure and have a break before restart.
If you use a cheaper compressor, you should have at least a provision to take care of the condensate
This can be compensated against with these smaller compressors (red or black central pneumatic 21-29 gal)by lvlp guns & constant running scenario with the drain valve at the bottom open letting all the moisture drain from the tank. This is a little tougher on it but it can handle it providing its been maintained. Always use a desiccant dryer & inline filter with regulator.
I have the same gun and compressor with same specs. You think I will be able to paint a hood on car?
Yes I think that’s do able
@@BulliKid thank you, great video!
Appreciate the feedback! Subscribe and check out the painting playlist if your into that!
Good research, and good explanation to buy an air compressor
Victor Gutierrez I appreciate the comment! Seems to be a Good video and is starting to trend slowly. Glad I can help. I was confused when I was getting started myself.
@@BulliKid I am now in the same way as you before, but after I saw your video give more knowledge in how to pick an air compressor right know I already order a Husky 20gal 200 psi, I think is 5.0 CMP @40. I try to use it with the Purple HF air gun just to paint around the fence and nothing fancy. thank you and keep going with more videos.
Thanks man for the advice love the detailed information you gave. Now I’m going out to buy the right one to do some painting on my car 🙏
Thank you and best of luck!
Thanks for this video you help me out I was lost but now I'm fine I'll try a run at it
Thanks
Straight forward info to the point man... great bloke
Thanks for watching!
Now u have everything u need to start making ur onw things.. keep it up my man. Thanks for the info.. 😎
Send me your parts to practice on hahah! Thanks for the support bro!
Thanks ever so much, a great help. I think I know what I need to paint my daughters wheels 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Glad I can help! Hope the wheels come out good. Rims are a hard piece to paint because of all the curves and edges. Wish you the best!
Will the Fortress 4 Gallon high performance be able to handle a hvlp gun? I wanna spray cabinets in my house .. it has 200 PSI and 4.1 CfM at 90
I would go higher for better results.
@@BulliKid the 5 gallon fortress has a 6.1 Scfm at 40 and a 5.1 at 90. Would the 5 gallon work?
What compressor with what psi and gallons would u recommend to just do body panels and stuff like bumpers and fenders ?
Daniel I think something like I have in the video is acceptable. But if you are going to purchase a compressor and not use something you have I would get something bigger because you will grow and may eventually move up to bigger projects. 20g mid range and 40 gallon for full cars.
BULLI KID cool !! Appreciate it lots man I’ll be looking into investing into a new compressor and gun ! I wanna start painting my own things lol
Hell yea good luck! I started painting a old broken bumper I found on the side of the road and used Rustoleum oil based paint to just get the steps in order. Only way from there.
Is that compressor good to paint 4 wheels?
Yah it should be fine! Just make sure your gun doesn’t demand a lot more air
Great video, awesome info. Just what I was looking for. Thanks!
Thanks for the comment!
the only video I need. thank you. much love from Philippines
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Where can i buy that air compressor?
This one is not in production. It’s about 15 years old
Is that compressor still working?
Yeah
This video is cool man, just the info i was lookin for
Thank you. Glad it helped you. Appreciate the comment.
The regulatory?
thanks for the clear information!!! what would you recommand for painting a motorcycle?? a supersport so a lot of fairings, but still not as much to paint as a car
Yanik Corneau I think you would be fine with something like in the video. Motorcycle parts are small, should suffice. But always , the bigger the compressor the better for painting.
no matter what paint gun take air alltime same, normal cheap HVLP gun need 14-17 SCFM air out comp, expensive. hobby user use better gun LVLP gun no need air lot only 5-7SCFM this have only important what u need know compressor, HP not tell anythink and tank capasity need be big have comfortable spray. no need wait sometime lot tank fill full.
hi i am new to this can you adice me on a air compeser on watt to use wich will be a big help
David Cottam What kind of project is it for
Great info. I was schooled properly. Nice work.
Thanks and I’m glad you enjoyed it! Cheers!
Great video! Can u help me a bit.
I'm going to buy the McGraw compressor which is 4scfm @ 90psi and the gun I want to get is SPECS: operation pressure 40 PSI; Working pressure 10 PSI; Average air consumption 4.5 CFM. The compressor is 125psi max so could I get away the the .5 cfm difference?
Oh I plan on doing a panel at a time to clear coat my e92
Yes that will work ok. What paint are you going to paint your car? Is it real paint? Any pearl?
@@BulliKid well I've been paiting my car with aerosol "grigio telesto" it's a metallic that looks real good. It used the spraymax 2k clear coat but they are $20 a can. I figure I'll just find a cheap compressor and just clear coat the entire car with a real gun instead.
Automotivetouchup website is where I've been getting my base color
I would recommend practicing spraying a clear from the gun. And getting a good speed reducer for your climate. You need too make sure you don’t get runs. It’s easier to get runs if you don’t know the gun settings or don’t have much experience. I have been dealing with these things myself. Metallica should be ok to paint panel by panel. If you were spraying any pearl in the paint they don’t recommend panel by panel.