Don’t Copy Professional Riders! (Why You Shouldn’t Even Try.)
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I think people should copy Reginald Scot! Ride metal frame, mechanical rim brakes, and do only meaningful stuff.
I totally agree! 😂👍🏻
Amen to full or partial external cabling, regardless of whether you have disk or rim brakes. Full integration is the next BB30 / press fit type headache for riders and home mechanics alike!
Totally agree. I can’t be doing with it. 🥱
What happened to the cyclists that I rode along side of , that had bicycles that were 10 15 yrs old still in mint condition and meticulously cared for.
After the mid 90’s the bike industry slowly turned to changing standards proprietary parts etc.
Once again another interesting video.
Looking forward to your next video.
All the best!
That is such a good observation! You are right. Where did people like that/me go? The power of marketing is amazing. 😱
Thank you 🙏🏻
They say newer is better, hey! I had a girlfriend who worked at the bike shop. She would buy the bike, call it "the best bike in the world I dreamt about whole my life" and then sell it 1 year after the purchase to buy another, more expensive bike, which she would call "the best bike in the world I dreamt about whole my life". In the meantime, I've restored my decrepit 1980 Colnago Super to "like new" condition, gave it fresh paint, fresh galvanic chrome, fresh decals, polished used components to mirror shine and so on. I get compliments on my bike whenever I go. They receive no compliments on their bikes whatsoever. Oh, and by the way, apparently, she now has a man, which is "the best man in the world she dreamt about whole her life" and I am living silent, peaceful life, slowly restoring my road bikes and don't give a flying eff about new gizmos nobody has asked for.
@@tweed0929exactly/getting off the hamster wheel.
@@lapis.exilis yay, indeed I dodged more than one bullet. Thanks for your kind comment, mate! Greetings from Ukraine!
@@tweed0929 good for you, there is something about the classic style bike that makes even those on their 10 grand bikes turn their heads as you ride by.
I bent my hoods in before I knew it was a thing because it felt a lot more comfortable for me.
Cool 😎 👍🏻
I have mine bent in ever so slightly and I find it more comfortable. Nothing extreme like what we saw last year. Just enough so that I can easily rest my forearm in the handlebars.
@@jrmhng Ever since I learned that the human hand toes in naturally, I did think of trying it out on mine as I always ran a no-toe setup.
I like your videos dude. If I could afford a Ti bike I would have one. At the moment it's not a possibility, so I'll stick with my one and only bike at present. A Focus Mares cross bike. It suits me at present. I'm overweight after some health issues last year. So 360 spoke Mavics do the trick. Big 30cm plus Schwalbes are great. Ultegra 6700 with exposed cables provides maintenance I can handle. Linear pull rim brakes for the win. A friend gave me this bike. I feel very fortunate.
Awesome! I hope your health continues to improve. Safe riding. 👍🏻🙂
You deserve more subscribers. That was an outstanding diatribe.
I have a Decathlon Triban 3 (bought in an end-of-line sale) that I am perfectly happy with. It came with carbon forks but retrospectively I would have gone for full Aluminium. I maintain it myself, it is fast enough for me, and it is cheap as chips to maintain.
Wow, thank you kindly. You get extra points for “diatribe” a word often used by my farther. If you like that I’m sure you will love my other work.
I had 2 Triban bikes, 1 and 2 I think? The 2 was excellent.
You can help with the subscription by passing on the video, or by forcing people to subscribe at gun point… I jest!
All the best and safe riding.
Hi Reginald. Hmmm. I agree with you up to a poimt. Don't try to ape the pros is deffinately good advice. Pros are young fit and flexible, we aren't, so copying their positions (like slammed stems and such like) is not very wise. Also riding is their day job, its not ours so all those adaptations they can make for riding will be denied us because we don't have the time.
I also agree with you that the UCI does not have any juristiction over the weekend casual rider so we don't need to adopt their work arounds.
For us riding is for enjoyment so we should be maximising that not looking cool trying to persuade everyone else that, in Marlon Brado's words "I coulda been a contender".
Now I've never raced (I've not the legs or lungs for it) but I've followed bike racing for years (its my number 1 spectator sport) and my recollections are a bit different to yours. Could be my memory playing tricks but ..... Bjarne Riis won the tour on a Ti bike (with a bit of pharmascetical help). The UCI rules used to only allow rim brakes (so obviously all the winners were using them) but somewhere about '10 to '14 the UCI allowed discs. There was some controversy at the time because of fears that discs would cause injury in crashes, covers and alsorts were tried but eventually discs were allowed. The adoption of discs has resulted in the adoption of through axles I believe that is because of the increased 'drop out' loads associated with hub brakes causing more fretting on the carbon, which it cannot sustain well.
I recognise your prejudice against disc brakes and thats ok, a personal choice, but I also recognise that disc brakes, for all their drag and weight issues, allow more latitude in wheel rim design. The rim can be lighter (not needing thickening for a brake track) which might be of more benefit in terms of rotary inetia. More important the shaping of the rim is more free to have better aerodynamics, which in a 200km flattish stage will be important. My next bike will have provision fo discs.
On the subject of frame material there is no doubt that it is possible to make a lighter frame in carbon. Its SG of 1.5 compared to al 2.45, Ti 4.5, steel 7.8 is inescapable. That it is more susceptable to damage and wear is undeniable but when the road goes up, weight (or the lack of it) is king.
It is a false start to think "I am going to crash it". Of couse if you ride hell for leather trying to be like a pro then probably you will crash. Looked after a carbon bike can last a good few years.
Anyone dedicated to the latest fashions better have a fat wallet because they'll need it.
I don’t think there is anything wrong with your memory and I don’t actually see where we disagree on the history of it? 🙂👍🏻
My bike fitter recommended turning the hoods inwards a bit and it feels like a comfort improvement (one of many minor changes, who knows anyway). He said it's to get the wrist lined up more straight and take the bend out. I'm on Gravel so area isn't really something we considered
Whatever works for you is my response. 🙂👍🏻
Hey Reginald. I agree almost everithing you sed, but I think pros ride carbon bikes because these are little bit lighter and little bit more aero thats why bit faster in the races. I ride Bianchi Infinito CV carbon with mecanical Ultegra and rim brakes which I get half a price brand new (2200 EUR), because it was out of fashion. i absolutely love it, because it is light and comfortable and fast feeling.
Keep up a good work (fighting the greedy industry), Martin from Estonia Tallinn.
Yes but (and no offence intended by the way) you kind of miss the point. If manufacturers were pushing steel or Ti bikes then they would all be riding steel or Ti.
I’m making the point that the manufacturers prefer carbon for the benefits/profit it gives them, irrespective of if it’s better for the rider/consumer or not. Interestingly I know several people who got faster after they switched from carbon to a metal bike. 🙂
Glad you love your bike, they are pretty that’s for sure. 😍👍🏻
Very true. I have even stopped wearing lycra because just face it, it look quite ridiculous to the non-cyclists at any cafe stop. Not to mention the sweaty mess left on the chairs.
Such quiet roads you have there. How nice.
Some are indeed quite, I try to avoid the busy ones. 🙂👍🏻
The safety green against the jet black sleeves look mesmerizing
All part of my cunning plan to keep you watching. 😁
The bending in of the hoods actually became a thing back in 2018 with Jan-Willem van Schip riding in this position. Later on in 2019 and 2020 some other (big) names followed, like Remco Evenepoel or Victor Campenaerts, mainly striving comfort. The UCI ban on the so called 'puppy paws-position' got implemented in april 2021, so riders were already bending in their hoods before this rule.
Personally i've also been riding with my hoods slightly bending in since 2019. I really think that a slightly bended in hood could be more comfortable for some people, and so if you are a bikefitter it's definitly worth looking at. I'm not trying to say that it schould become a standard in people their bikefits, since it's still a very personal thing. Some people will like it (like me) and others won't (like you).
With regard the bent hoods as a fitter I consider it to be a very minor adjustment that I don’t need to be worried about. I’d much rather spend the time I have with the customer making sure the saddle is the right height. Or the reach and stack is good and the shoes fit and the cleats are in the right place. And so on. All this makes way more difference to rider comfort and is top priority for me. Also if I were to suggest it and it only works for some people I have no way to know if it will work and no way to know if it will cause issues? So do I just suggest it to everyone? Also how “bent in” of the hoods do I suggest? What’s the calculation for it? It’s a very new concept, so nobody has a system for it. Do we bend it 2 degrees? Or 10? What tool do I use to makes sure both hoods are bent at exactly the same angle? Straight I can check easily. Should I bend one side more for someone with a strong right dominant upper body? 🤔🤷🏻♂️
You see my issue here. So I’d much rather give them an amazing fit and then let them experiment with stuff like that in their own time if they wish. 🙂👍🏻
If it works for you keep doing it, I very much believe that Fitting is an organic and holistic thing that will continue to adapt with time. 🙂👍🏻
As far as buying what you can afford, I think saving for what you want like a custom frame and that’s your lifetime bike, those are very expensive, but will last. whereas if you’re buying a disposable bike that’s proprietary in it’s components and spending thousands of dollars on it just to “keep up with the Joneses” and bury yourself in debt, that’s foolish and pretentious. My dream bike would be a Moots and at 52 years old definitely my last.😅
Also being honest about your ACTUAL riding habits. I absolutely love racing bikes but I don’t need that. I ended up buying a gravel bike with a very relaxed geometry, because it’s comfortable and “fast enough.” I live in Colorado, where the roads aren’t that great and there are a lot of cars that aren’t particularly polite to cyclists so going off on dirt roads is a very attractive option. I was honest with myself about how it was actually going to use the bike and staying within a budget. Turned out a steel Kona was choice. Strong affordable and relatively inexpensive to maintain.
So my two cents…
Excellent choice and reasoning if you ask me. That steel Kona sounds like a great bike. Good advice in this comment, all the best Sir! 🙂❤️
Those roads you're riding look very dangerous 😱. I think I'm less scared when I watch Safa's videos. Stay safe!
Really? How so?
Bike:car speed ratio
I'm not a pro, I am contra. I question everything I see and make my own judgements. "Do like pros do" is stupid advice. Especially on bike fit.
Good for you man. Keep being like that! 💪🏼👍🏻
Well done, Reg. Solid advice.
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed my ramblings. 😁
Disc brakes enable the average Joe to ride expensive aero wheels w/o having to replace them as often due to rim wear.
They're great for winter riding/commuting in my area for the same reason. They actually save money.
I use my rim brake road bike only for good weather rides anymore.
That’s what aluminium wheels are for. 😉
Also if you do the maths replacing a carbon rim (just the rim) every say 6 years is cheaper than maintaining a disc brake bike over the same period. 🙂
@@reginaldscot165 Been using aluminium wheels since the 90s and under the conditions I now ride, disc brakes come out on top.
The winters are long and dirty, it's very hilly with long descents and I need to ride each and every day, regardless.
So I need to swap rims each season, I always bought Shimano's cheapest wheelset, ofc.
Btw, good break rubbers cost more than disc brake pads and don't last as long.
"6y" (aka let's say 20000km) is what one can expect a rim to last in good conditions on a bike which is only used for sunday rides, imo.
Individuals need individual solutions - I am a rim break fan (ease of use), but disc brakes have their use cases even for us normals.
I bent my hoods in once a long time ago,in an accident.
Absolutely agree with your comments,90% of performance is the rider,the rest is nutrition and a small amount is equipment.
Nice gear does make it more enjoyable.
Yes folks we are not pros,so why try to be like them?
I hope the accident wasn’t bad? All the best and safe riding. 🙂👍🏻
Watching this whilst climbing up Col de la Madone in zwift. :-D
Lol 😂 👍🏻
I did turn my lever (just slightly) not like pross as it is in fact bit more comfortable for me. But I also run 42 cm bars not narrower ones as I did try 40cm ones and I feel bit cramped in. I also use 143mm specialized power saddle, even though based on my sitbones I should use 155mm ones as it is the most comfortable saddle for me and I did try like 7 different ones and it fits the best. I run integrated cables as I run Di2 and I never ever had to do anything with hydraulic cables in any bikes I ever owned in the last 10 years so it is not an issue for me and I really like the look of it. I don't run integrated bar and stem as I do change stem based on the season... I am a bit more fit in summer so I can be more stretched and I do run shorter stem in winter when I want to be more comfy...
Cool 😎
i can tell you that here in belgium a lot of the pro's (i sometimes train with them) don't want to go back to rim brakes. in the beginning of disc brakes the bikes were to heavy, and that's why they kept on riding rim brakes, but now these days it's not that hard(if you want to spend a lot of cash obviosly) to get a disc brake bike to the uci rule of 6.8kg. with the rest of you're points i agree with. greetings from belgium
It’s a lot Har to get them that light and you sacrifice frame strength because that’s the only place to cut the weight. How old are the Pros you ride with? If they we’re riding the bikes of 6-7 years ago I’d be surprised if that’s true. I can see younger less experienced riders being ok with disc. What about wheel changes? 🙂
Funny how the thermal signature of a rear disc brake would also be good cover for the thermal signature of a rear hub motor, eh? Yeah, FUNNY, THAT 😂
"Why is your rear hub glowing in infrared?"
"Oh that's just the disc brake, no way it's a motor, nothing to see here, move on!"
Pathetic fake sport, utter joke, tiny wimpy shrimps like Vingegaard, spinning their tiny wimpy gears at impossible revs, somehow smashing TT records set by huge drugged-up units with massive levers like Indurain, violating all laws of physics 😂
I love the jab reference.... Boy do i regret having the first 2!
Yikes 😱 2. I Hope all is well. I think it depends on the batch and the location of manufacturing. 🙏🏻
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13:13 Well said! Cycling shouldn't be an endless moneypit of a hobby. There are much more important expenses and needs to cover such as supply bills, hospital bills, college bills, taxes, life insurance, car insurance, mortgage loans, medications, aero bike, climbing bike, endurance bike, gravel bike, time trial bike, e-bike, more importantly a new state-of-the-art expensive bike with the latest, lightest, not-so-durable BUT... it's light and aero and beautiful, and lastly food.
Ha ha good comment! 😂👍🏻
Yes I've seen some pros using non sponsored , de-branded saddles. The teams won't let just any rider do it though. It's the kind of thing that really pisses sponsors off. If they're a big saddle company, they can usually accommodate any rider. Their catalogues are extensive. But some riders are really picky with saddles.
Yes I’m also quite picky. 🙂
@@reginaldscot165 Well yes. It's understandable. You're dealing with a very personal part of the body. Small surface area contacting another small surface area for extended periods of time with serious exertion happening.
I liked the spesh Romin. I haveno experience with Fizik but I've read so much good stuff about them. I'd like to try their Antares. Right width for me.
On the subject of new frames, I have recently been looking for a new steel rim brake frame and the choice is very slim. I'm not ready to commit a lot of money to a complete new fancy pants disc break bicycle.
My current stead is a Giant super lite peloton and with my limited experience find it hard to get any advice as most bike shops only want to sell the carbon bikes.
Yes it’s frustrating how they only push the plastic bikes… but hay, that’s what the masses seem to want. (Or what they have been told to want)
I can’t recommend anything in steel as I don’t know your budget, but there are plenty of manufacturers making them, so an afternoon on Google should turn something up that fits your needs. 🙂👍🏻
@@reginaldscot165 Thank you, great channel, I love that you are not promoting anything, just giving good advice.
At 49 I'm pretty new to road cycling and bike maintenance so have enjoyed all your vids 👍
I see so much riders that, for example, use 36cm bars with extreme turned hoods but they have short stem that make a upright and less aero position, what is the point of copy the pros only on the esthetic without knowing why pros set up his bikes like that. If you want to get fast on your bike you can't have a mass thinking, you have to read more, and investigate, pros have to use the bike that the brands say, and for example, if you see non sponsored cycling the people are still using rim brake and winning.
Very true, I’m a big fan of “doing what works for you.” Everyone is different, just mimicking something you saw doesn’t mean it will work for you, might even do more harm than good in my experience. 😅
It depends. Take riding and training, Pros spend the vast majority of thier time riding in zone 2, recreational riders should so the same. I could go on....But you think most are on roids.....
I do… I also find it very hard to ride in zone 2. 😂
off topic: what's your take on velomobiles?
Cool 😎
Yes and no.
Some pro type kit and protocol works for amateur riders, particularly racers. Narrow bars are an example but only if you can cope and used appropriately, ie road bike time trials.
Some training techniques cross over well , perhaps we don't have the time to do hours of gym work but we can get better just doing some of it.
I'm racing in a 2 stage tt over the weekend, pro bike but 1980s one. I expect to get a kicking but I would on any bike, up against record breakers and elite riders with time to train. 😂
Good luck to you! 🙂👍🏻
@reginaldscot165 podium mate, 2nd in the over 60s. Guy who beat me was on a tt bike. Have to beat him by a minute in tomorrow's hilly 25, possible but a bit of an ask. Steel is real 😄
@reginaldscot165 won the over 60s on the old bike..
Looking at the strava for second stage, the old bike was faster on the climbs. Lost time overall against the aero bike but could have been down to the weather, really windy day compared with last year. 2 minutes in it but the opposite happened a few weeks ago when I used the aero bike, lost 2 or 3 minutes against the steel bike on the same course 12 months previously.
I'll have a look at the set up on the carbon bike , might just be too relaxed for my riding style.
Peak fitness should mean peak health and not peak performance. Pro riders at peak fitness shouldn't shave their heads because someone might ask them how the chemo therapy is going.
Ha ha that’s so true. 😂👍🏻
I don’t understand your reference to Carbon needing ‘more looking after’. In what sense does it need more looking after?
I’ve got aluminium, carbon and steel bikes in my stable and they are all differing versions of hardtail MTB and gravel bikes, which take much more punishment than road use. I honestly struggle to notice any meaningful differences between them other than weight.
I’ve covered thousands of off road miles on my carbon bikes and not had a single issue with the material at all.
They make aeroplanes and F1 cars out of the material, I fail to see how the forces applied to a bicycle frame are somehow more demanding than either of the other two I’ve mentioned.
If you don’t know why, it’s too long for me to explain. But the information is available online. 🙂👍🏻
@@reginaldscot165 that’s a cop out to be fair.
You’re putting videos out on UA-cam promoting your personal preferences and making very sweeping generalisations about the pitfalls of the things you do not prefer. It’s just biased content.
You do often give useful advice, but you are also heavily biased.
@@reginaldscot165 Yeah, and the infomation says: that carbon can last longer than you riding a bike. There are vids, here on youtube, that show how hard you have to smack a carbon bike with a steel hammer, to get it too break. A Aluminium frame would be done before the carbon one.
You are biased, and have a bad agenda against all that is modern (and in most cases) better.
You have NO idea how much of a beating modern carbon bikes can take.
@@66mikkimWould you consider '14 modern?
Factoring in my family life, work, health, time availability. I'd rather race and ride hard on Zwift or Mywhoosh and my outdoor bike to just be half decent so I can enjoy the outdoors when I get time at home or abroad in summer mainly. I'm not into real life fondos, crits or road races due to safety concerns, terrible roads and traffic.
So I don't need a Scott Foil RC at $20,000 lmao. Most average riders do, fair play.
Ha ha that sounds good. Whatever makes you happy and yes safety is normally my only thought when I decide to race or not. 😅👍🏻
Haha well where I live I have no choice but to work in freelance unless I buy private medical insurance and etc to cover loss of earnings in the event of injury. So not worth the hassle and cost lol
Am doing some bike delivery and bike touring,on a 2000's hybrid bike,having a rear rack.I can service my rim brakes or patch spare tubes myself,which doesn't cost much.Why on earth would I need carbon frame,disc brakes or tubeless?
My feelings exactly. 🙂
Yeah, anti-doping isn't quite effective enough
By design I wonder? 🤔
Why the long sleeves?
Prevents Solar radiation burns.
I always thought the pros turned their hoods inwards for another slight aero gain - less frontal area. But wow man they spend so much money on these dudes. I heard many of the pros were wearing aero socks at the tour that retailed for $1K per pair!! I know what kind of idiot would pay that even if they were a billionaire. The skin suits they wear on every race day now. Not just on TT days. They must be $1K for certain. All sorts of ridiculous tech goes into them. Oversize jockey wheel kits for the rear derailleur with ceramic bearings. Ridiculously expensive items providing ridiculously marginal gains. That's just scratching the surface of stupidly expensive race kit. Sorry that is a bit of a rant. I've been drinking a bit and got a little carried away. It's Sunday arvo.
Well if your were a billionaire you’d be making more than $1,000 a day in intrest. $27,397 a day at 1%. 😁
@@reginaldscot165 you could blow your nose into $1k aero socks then bin them. Oops 🤣
Cycling is supposed to be healthy, I mean, IT IS healthy. But when you put your body through the stress of pro-level cycling... is it still healthy, or are you causing some harm? Idk, not a doctor.
Yes lots, it’s the same with any sport or anything for that matter. It’s why most people can’t or are not willing to do it. It painful and punishing. I know one guy who enlarged his heart by cycling too much, when I heard I was like “oh that’s cool, so your heart is bigger and stronger now?” He said “no it’s bigger and weaker, the doctor says I need to stop cycling.”
@@reginaldscot165wowzers. That's all the excuse I need not to train too much. My 3-4 hours a week is perfect.
I would say, cycling ceased to be healthy. The notion of throwing money at your hobby is not healthy, especially if one mimics what professionals do without ever earning money by racing.
@@tweed0929 I think the cycling industry assumed people would chuck money at their hobby, but the vast majority don't have that level of cash or don't want to spend it in that way. 95% of cyclists I see are on older or cheaper bikes.
It's all about selling stuff. The sport has to be seen to improve to encourage punters to buy new stuff, after all if new kit can't match times set by last century's kit, nobody would want it. But for that to happen the level of doping needed would kill the riders, cos in the 1990s they were doping to an extremely dangerous level. Which is why they are all riding ebikes now, then you can keep the riders safe & still have the odd miracle time like vingegaard TT in last year's TDF.
Pro cycling is sports entertainment now, like pro wrestling.
How do you know Reginald is honest? Who else would admit they would dope if they were a pro 🤣
If anything I’m honest to a fault. It doesn’t win me many friends. 😅
People do why?
Because they think it’s the right thing to do.
Cant agree with the bit about shortnosed saddles. I have three Brooks Pro normal -length saddles and one short Brooks pro, designed for women and shorter riders. The short one is much more comfortable, but the BACK of the saddle is at the same distance on all the saddles. I prefer to sit on my bum rather than my sensitive bits
Good! Saddles are very personal and I’m not saying they don’t work for some people just that the reason they were invented was not to benefit the consumer as such. 🙂
Safe riding! 👍🏻
I copy the pros by riding an ebike.
Ha ha nice 👌🏻 😎
@@reginaldscot165 funny how every single trend in pro cycling for the last 25 years has been exactly what you'd do if you were motor doping. Smaller, lighter riders, pushing smaller gears, with shorter cranks, using a higher cadence, on bikes with oversize tube frames using disc brakes. It is blatant & makes me sick that it's not widely acknowledged by the cycling community.
Just rationally, pro-cyclists should be better able to cover distances than previous generations. Like the 100M sprint world record, it eventually comes down with the passing of time. But pro-cyclists are condemned whenever they achieve this feat. There are advances in technique, training, nutrition & technology & it's just a cheap shot to assert doping is prevalent for increased speed in pro-cycling. Durianrider is not a good reference either. He's previously asserted that eating bananas is how you beat everyone else. Except in his case. So, before condemning every person who wins a pro-cycle event you might consider to 1st provide actual evidence?
The only evidence I have is I worked with 2 professional athletes (different sports) over the years. Both told me they were doping (I saw 1 taking drugs with my own eyes) and 1 told me that nobody gets to the top of any sport clean. And I believe him.
@@reginaldscot165 Ok, but that isn't evidence, it's still hearsay. I was an athlete for several years & despised anyone who had lowered themselves to gain wins/times in my sport. The people I trained alongside thought the same, I was certainly not unique in belief in the superiority of physical purity. Also, in time, the cheaters were usually outed. More recently, as a cycling fan, I have seen cheaters outed while they were still in contract. We have lost our naivety & science has become more able to detect & examine ped anomalies in real time. This outweighs hearsay, which would otherwise condemn every winner of every pro-bike race.
No sh-t lmao,
Glad you agree. 🙂👍🏻
If you need 4 hours to service a fully intergrated Aero bike, you should look for a new job...It takes me maybe 15 min longer than external.
How can you say don´t do this, don´t use that? you have no idea what the ppl watchin your vid have as a goal.
Disks are far superior....
"They allow more freedom for wheel design, including wider rim widths which have been shown to improve sailing effect
A narrower head tube design is possible with a disc brake installation, reducing frontal aera and hence, drag
You can brake later and carry speed for longer, and you also have more consistent braking performance in all conditions, meaning adverse weather won’t have as much impact on overall speed."
You are lying. There is no way you can compete a “full service in 4 hours.” Unless of course your full service misses most of the bike, or you do a shoddy job.
Incorrect, anyone who claims that Disc is superior to Rim is as wrong as someone who claims Rim is superior to Disc. Different tools for different jobs. I can name 10 ways Rim brakes are better than Disc and if I’m on an MTB I’d prefer Disc.
@@reginaldscot165 you was talkin about the internal routing of the cabels and hoses, not a complete bike service.
Discs are superior, in the wet, and in stoping power....if you need to do a emergancy break cause of some stupid road user, disc will ALWAYS prevail!
But you just keep living in your old school world, where the old stuff is the best shit you can get for money
What is the reason you moved to Brunei?The roads and the traffic seem not too bad there
Seemed like the right thing to do at the time. 🤷🏻♂️😉