This video was made BEFORE the recent patch that nerfed radahn, and that doesnt change anything for me tbh. Radahn should have been like that day 1 and its embarrassing it took them this long to correct it, if they needed that time to fix it then their DLC obviously needed more time.
I think lots of these critiques are a lil off. The world is mostly empty and dead because it’s the land of shadow. A place where all the inhabitants got killed by messmer. Rahdan post nerf is super amazing. Romina is shit 100% but the rest of these bosses are good. They have good lore, good fights and I don’t see a problem with most of them. Also the scadutree fragment thing is so insanely similar to prayer beads and it’s not bad at all. You can speed run the dlc and end up with about 10-12 fragments. I feel like this it quite the nitpick. I think the DLC was better than ds1, and is probably 3rd behind bloodborne and ds3. Overall, good DLC and lots of the points in the open world critique is mostly just hating on open world.
@@The_FatherOfCats fair points, but don’t you think it’s weird that Elden Ring’s dlc is worse than some of the dlcs they made 8+ years ago? If most people agree that Elden ring is better than, or on par to, Fromsoft’s past ips in pretty much every way, doesn’t it mean that the dlc is just mediocre if it falls behind other game’s dlcs?
@@The_FatherOfCats the only similarity between prayer beads and scadufrags is that they’re items. They’re completely different in theory and in practice. Beads are a flat upgrade system from the beginning of the game and the only way to become physically tankier, and are only found by killing non memory bosses or like 6 of them come from exploring a small tightly packed world. While frags are a second level up system that are scattered around the boring world. Also the ‘lore’ reason the open world feels empty and boring doesn’t make it any less empty and boring. Lore can’t excuse poor design Still a good DLC though
People really shitting on SOTE. I think it is a great DLC, people have been complaining about how easy Elden Ring has been, so Fromsoft, doing their usual stuff, and improving on the comments. While I do agree, SOTE has a bunch of hiccups, but I feel like yall exaggerating it. Radahn being there was cool too, and the lore wasn't that bad. While I do feel like the ending was empty and Godwyn should have been there, but still its hella good. Also the Radahn fight is HARD, FOR A GOOD FREAKING REASON, U ARE FIGHTING 2 DEMI-GODS AND A FREAKING GOD AT ONCE, OFC ITS HARD.
Well there's a difference between a good and bad challenge, radahs challenge was just lazy imo, but yeah a lot of stuff is subjective so if you like it that's completely fair
@GameitMicah Something being poorly designed in your opinion doesn't mean it's "lazy". I quite loved the radahn fight, it was the culmination of fromsoft difficulty up to that point. You not liking it doesn't mean it's "lazy"
@@GameitMicah I mean, ur opinion is valid, Radahn is kinda unnecesary when u think about it, but then again, i don't think it is exactly lazy. Fromsoft PUSHED the boundries of what is possible in terms of a boss. Radahn is the culmination of years and years of making games, and I think he hit that standard. Except FUCK and I MEAN FUCK THAT TRIPLE SLASH ATTACK. IF IT WEREN'T FOR THAT BS, I WOULD HAVE BEAT HIM SO MUCH EZIER
I had 6 different save files prepared before the dlc dropped and only ever used 2 of them. My biggest issue is that there’s just no good reason to play it. Some of the bosses are cool don’t get me wrong; Midra, Rellana, and Midra are easily in my top 5 ER bosses, but after I beat them I feel little to no motivation to move forward with the dlc. It’s not like there’s these compelling lore beats driving us or the tarnished forward. We don’t become a lord or anything cool like that after beating Consort Radahn, we get a neat little headband and a 20 second cutscene of something we already pieced together 🥲👍. Radahn himself was a letdown as well. Why was he here? Because of some arrangement made between him and Miquella that we had zero ability to put together in the base game alone? I call bs. We didn’t even get to see him in his right mind, he’s just a husk again… whoopty doo I guess?
I was on Ng+3 when I got the dlc. I never summoned another player until I got to Radahn and had to deal with his BS in his second phase. I summoned someone for help, saw the forgettable ending, and never picked the game up again (I also don't have the time to play through the base game and dlc, I never thought I'd say this but it might be too big).
Before the release of the DLC I was hoping Godwyn would have been the finale boss and since he is soulless his body could have been taken control by an Outer God, hell he could have became an Outer God himself. Either way seeing Radahn again is cool but I was disappointed we had to fight him again instead of having an original final boss for the DLC.
Sekiro and the base elden ring game did the same thing with it's games. Owl, corrupted monk, morgot and even isshen showed up in two separate boss fights. It just sounds like you had particular expectations that didn't get met
@@wonderofu1603 nah, im talking about expectations to add a very specific boss. It's stupid. Fromsoft has always repeated bosses like this and they do it in a cool way every time. Again, sekiros final boss is repeated in the same way. Not sure why it's suddenly an issue
@@spudermoth In the text it says “I was hoping” which means I am giving my personal opinion and dislike on the matter of the final boss it was never about my expectations because I never would have known who the boss was going to be anyway but I still it rather have been someone else than Radahn.
@@spudermoth I love Elden ring it's my favorite game of all time and really enjoyed the dlc, but you simp super hard against any criticism of it like a zealot on every comment critiquing it.
Yeah man just imagine you enter that same gate and the eclipse is finnaly happening, you see a dark figure rising up, it's Godwyn Prince of Death, and when the Tarnished defeats him, he dies a true death, like Miquella wanted for him to reincarnate as a True living God, Godwyn the Eternal. Imagine that bro, it would be so so much better.
i like consort radahn boss fight and especially more so after the nerf, my issue is that he/miquella being the final boss, i really REALLY thought something else would happen after that fight, some secret final boss. That being said, miazaki did say more elden ring content is not off the table, just no plans at the moment for it, that includes even more DLC. so lets hope more is to come.
i can appreciate your criticism but its really up to personal opinion : i hated on divine beast ever since the dlc released and i absolutely adore romina fight but yeah you got a valid point, even if the dlc isnt 10/10 its still 8-9/10
welp we dont agree on a lot of points but i think the reason behind the bad is the scale of elden ring, the best souls experiences are concise, not 100 hours long. bloodborne and sekiro to me are the best overall experiences and they are both the shortest in the fromsoft catalogue
Well you can blame all the people that said they wanted to fight prime Radahn for him being the final boss he also suffers from Malenia syndrome aka incredible tough boss awful rewards.
I liked Prime Radahn at the end. No issue with it. Currently playing DS1 and it is god awful. Im fully convinced people love thay game for pure nostalgia because it's horrible and no boss fight has been enjoyable yet and im on Neto
I used to have a lot of problems with ds1 and was in your boat, tbh I think the boss roster isn't all that good in base game but I feel like everything besides the bosses is really well done.
I feel like people are shitting on your takes a bit much, Ill give my own opinion here. 1. Scadutree Fragments. I think they're a great way to make levelling easy in the DLC. They did it with prayer beads in Sekiro, so it could have worked here as well. However, I agree with you, in that they messed up hard with the placement of these fragments, they're just too random, there's too many of them, and there's like 0 lore significance behind why they exist. 2. Exploration. Hard agree in that exploration in the DLC is abyssmal. A lot of people say the world is supposed to feel empty, but even if you assumed that on a stretch, it should only apply to areas that were purged, like the gravesite plains. There's no reason for areas such as Cerulean Coast, Jagged Peak and Abyssal Woods to feel as empty as they were. I couldnt agree more that the abyssal woods should have either been more linear, or had more content. A great idea would have been to add a second steed which you can use exclusively in the area, and some more horrifying creatures, because it felt so tedious to go through in NG+. I would also like to point out the finger ruins, which were criminally empty and worthless apart from progressing Ymir's quest. 3. Bosses. This is one part where I gotta disagree with you. If we look at the remembrance bosses of the DLC, they're all a lot more memorable for me than the base game bosses. Messmer and Bayle are the two best bosses in the entire game for me, and Midra is high A Tier because of his design, his lore, and his amazing OST. The Dancing Lion definitely had camera problems, but I found that by dodging away and keeping distance when I didnt need to attack, those werent too bad. And as for Romina, while I thought her design was really cool as an insect lover, I agree that the fight itself was pretty lacking, and the hitboxes were weird. I feel like Gaius gets too much hate, his only bullshit attack is his straight charge forward, and while it was frustrating, I didnt find anything else he did unfair in any way. He had a cool design, and I liked learning his moveset. Now one part of the DLC Bosses which sucks, is the lack of buildup. Messmer, Midra and the Lion are the only bosses which get cutscenes(Im not including radahn since he is a final boss), and the rest feel like they were just plopped in randomly. Especially Rellana, she could have used a cutscene, some buildup, or at least some voicelines, but she got none of those. I will make no comments on the final boss since I havent fought it. However I will state my disappointment in the overall story of the DLC, I think it had a decent buildup and a really poor finale. I dont mind that Messmer wasn't the final boss, but having it be radahn felt weird and kind of lacking imo. Thats all I gotta say. Great video!!
I don't know if it's a controversial opinion but I actually vastly preferred the dlc to base game. I will say that shadutree fragments were really stupid and should've just been on the path through the dlc or not be there at all and same goes for revered spirit ashes, however I personally thought that all the bosses were actually pretty fun, I think there was a lot more potential for them, and Midra's area was way too big for what it was and not being able to use torrent, however in my opinion the characters (especially Igon, Ansbach, Thiollier, and Freyja), the areas, most of the bosses were pretty good. Mesmer should be more important but I don't think he should be the final boss, I hate Romina there are no excuses for Romina, Gaius was a cool idea but he just ends up being annoying, some were too forgettable, Rellana is cool, i think Radahn is a really cool boss, but could have been done better, and the only bad about Bayle is his rewards aren't all that great. Despite all these flaws I still think the dlc was great and actually better than basegame and I will die on that hill.
I didn’t mind the DLC, but it wasn’t as exciting as the base game. It didn’t make much sense to me, and one of the quests I screwed up because I didn’t speak to the NPCs correctly, and I wouldn’t have known that unless I looked up a walk through which I really didn’t want to do. The dragons were cool, I think that was my fave part but other than that the only thing I noticed is it was slightly harder. Deff enjoyed the base game more.
Shadow of the Erdtree has every problem I have with base game Elden Ring multiplied by ten, and Elden Ring was already my least enjoyed Soulsborne game. SOTE has even less replayability than the base game since if you treat it like your first playthrough, doing everything possible, the little magic it had before will be gone because you've already seen it. If you rush through everything, Scadutree fragments will be a massive attempt at wasting of your time and the bosses are still tiring at best. I could go on for hours about the problems with even the best fights of this DLC, and even ignoring those, none of the areas or bosses here come close to the highs of other souls games, and the lows are probably the worst content FromSoftware has ever put out. So, what's the best thing you can do for yourself this DLC? Simple. Never play it ever again.
As much as i think pre nerf radahn felt robotic and shit i really liked the bossfight when not using parrys while usig parrys it was mid and just boring asf no coreography nor actual rythm just 3 parries crit and some lightspeed shit as for gaius I think i liked him only because i light rolled so i never felt inconsistance and the ending is just boring as shit
I disagree with a lot, but ya know, different strokes for different folks. I will agree with your abyssal woods critique, it would've benefitted from being more linear. I didn't see them taking away torrent as them saying this will be linear, I just thought their would at least be more to pick up. Found myself being like this is kind of annoying, but that's about it. I left a comment on your original vid with my views so I won't repeat. Disagree, but still a good video so I'll leave a like lol
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i think you’re tripping about the “Radahn again” thing. I feel like most people wanted to fight radahn in his prime. I was personally super stoked to fight him without him being crippled
Except that wasn’t even prime Radahn 😅 it was puppet Radahn in Mohg’s body and he wasn’t even mounted. Also there was basically nothing tying Radahn and Miquella prior to the dlc lore drops. Makes them being together for the ending feel like a gimmick
Excellent point about the tree fragments especially if you play more than one character. Also be prepared to be attacked by simp cuck zealots even tho you stated it was your favorite game and also mine. Also people need to stop comparing their last games saying why it's reason for things to be exactly how it was. Guys! They always make slight changes to every game they make that argument is stupid.
I don’t understand your argument about the fragments, like you’re frustrated, but what the answer? How else do they level the playing field when players are rolling into dlc ranging from lev 60-700. And you complain about some fragments requiring too much exploration, but you answered that already. You really only need lev 12, but plebs that need max level are given that through said exploration
Like I said it should have either been all on main path or removed and done the classic way, plus only needing 12 makes the whole system feel trivial and repetitive.
I personally feel like these bosses would've felt less like a chore if there was more effort put into their stories and if the overrall plot was more fleshed out. I love Elden Ring but this DLC in terms of world exploration and character exploration/story was definitely lacking and reusing radahn just felt like a cop out. Having Godwyn in this story, be it a boss or a major character in the DLC would've created more intrigue and depth to the overall story. So in short I def agree with ur statements/thoughts. Esp for such a successful game this DLC was definitely lackluster
The lore for Radahn being there is also bullshit. It should have been fucking Godwyn. Why am I fighting a bad version of an enjoyable base game boss when the fucked up mermaid zombie remains unfought.
Godwyns whole lore thing is that he’s dead. Super dead, really dead, so dead he cannot be alive. I want godwyn to be in the second dlc if it comes out. But it probably won’t cuz he’s just super dead.
I feel like all your DLC critic could apply to the base game as well. It's still a good game that got me hooked for +150 hours, but in so many ways a step down from Bloodborn and Dark Souls imo.
Imo I think SOTE is too large for it’s own good. It seems like FromSoft wanted to fit in as much lore as possible because there’s a low chance for an Elden ring 2. But all that ended up doing was giving the fans an incomplete puzzle,Because Miquella’s story feels like it was shaved down to meet the deadline.
The thing that really annoys me with the DLC is the fact that EVERY SINGLE MAJOR OUTER GOD is crammed into the land of shadow. It's basically the size of Limgrave and Liurnia and you're telling me that the Scarlet Rot, Frenzy Flame, Formless Mother and The Greater Will just coexist here?
the actual gods themselves are not there. Not even the scarlet rot one. Personally i don't have an issue with it as if they're trying to take over the lands between would that not also include the lands of shadow? Midra (frenzy flame) was already living there BEFORE he was even chosen as the lord of frenzied flame so it definitely makes sense for him to be there
You overexaggerate so many things to support your opinions. It also seems like you've missed quite a bit of content, especially with Metyr. I think you had set expectations for something very specific and got disappointed when the DLC didn't turn out that way. The scadutree fragments are easy to come by and you can get 30 fragments just going through the zones with some exploration. They carry over to ng+, so you can stack them up over multiple playthroughs. As for cerulean coast, it is a small zone when you actually look at the map, it makes sense that there's not going to be that much content. Even so it has a few secret locations and good loot, which it seems you never found or left them out on purpose. Your takes on Radahn don't have much basis. I really don't know what your expectations were for that fight. You think the fight is bad because to dodge the triple slash you need movement, positioning and timing. The same things you need in every boss fight. Then the part with Radahn not being a clever boss fight, you are supposed to be the clever one not the boss. It's a challenging boss which forces you to come up with a clever build to beat it, if you can't beat it using your skill alone. There are multiple ways to make fight much easier and they are all readily available. It's funny at 11:50 when you make fun of opposing views with a nasal nerd voice, but your own voice in this video starts turning nasal every time you get excited 😂
It's funny that I was starting to think you had a point until you completely ruined your credibility by making fun of my voice. It's a game, you're letting yourself get that upset like an absolute clown.
@@GameitMicah Chill bro, it's critique on your video not assault on your character. Hence the "in this video" in my comment. I'm pointing out to you that using a mocking voice to represent views opposing to yours is not a good way to do it. Just like you said it, it discredits what you are trying to communicate.
@@Sotamursu90 Exactly, its a critique. Its ridiculous to make it about anything else lol. Its just a game and I am just sharing my opinion on game, thats all lmfao
This video was made BEFORE the recent patch that nerfed radahn, and that doesnt change anything for me tbh. Radahn should have been like that day 1 and its embarrassing it took them this long to correct it, if they needed that time to fix it then their DLC obviously needed more time.
I think lots of these critiques are a lil off. The world is mostly empty and dead because it’s the land of shadow. A place where all the inhabitants got killed by messmer. Rahdan post nerf is super amazing. Romina is shit 100% but the rest of these bosses are good. They have good lore, good fights and I don’t see a problem with most of them. Also the scadutree fragment thing is so insanely similar to prayer beads and it’s not bad at all. You can speed run the dlc and end up with about 10-12 fragments. I feel like this it quite the nitpick. I think the DLC was better than ds1, and is probably 3rd behind bloodborne and ds3. Overall, good DLC and lots of the points in the open world critique is mostly just hating on open world.
@@The_FatherOfCats fair points, but don’t you think it’s weird that Elden Ring’s dlc is worse than some of the dlcs they made 8+ years ago?
If most people agree that Elden ring is better than, or on par to, Fromsoft’s past ips in pretty much every way, doesn’t it mean that the dlc is just mediocre if it falls behind other game’s dlcs?
@@The_FatherOfCats the only similarity between prayer beads and scadufrags is that they’re items. They’re completely different in theory and in practice. Beads are a flat upgrade system from the beginning of the game and the only way to become physically tankier, and are only found by killing non memory bosses or like 6 of them come from exploring a small tightly packed world. While frags are a second level up system that are scattered around the boring world.
Also the ‘lore’ reason the open world feels empty and boring doesn’t make it any less empty and boring. Lore can’t excuse poor design
Still a good DLC though
People really shitting on SOTE. I think it is a great DLC, people have been complaining about how easy Elden Ring has been, so Fromsoft, doing their usual stuff, and improving on the comments. While I do agree, SOTE has a bunch of hiccups, but I feel like yall exaggerating it. Radahn being there was cool too, and the lore wasn't that bad. While I do feel like the ending was empty and Godwyn should have been there, but still its hella good. Also the Radahn fight is HARD, FOR A GOOD FREAKING REASON, U ARE FIGHTING 2 DEMI-GODS AND A FREAKING GOD AT ONCE, OFC ITS HARD.
Well there's a difference between a good and bad challenge, radahs challenge was just lazy imo, but yeah a lot of stuff is subjective so if you like it that's completely fair
@GameitMicah Something being poorly designed in your opinion doesn't mean it's "lazy". I quite loved the radahn fight, it was the culmination of fromsoft difficulty up to that point. You not liking it doesn't mean it's "lazy"
@@spudermoth My point exactly
@@GameitMicah I mean, ur opinion is valid, Radahn is kinda unnecesary when u think about it, but then again, i don't think it is exactly lazy. Fromsoft PUSHED the boundries of what is possible in terms of a boss. Radahn is the culmination of years and years of making games, and I think he hit that standard. Except FUCK and I MEAN FUCK THAT TRIPLE SLASH ATTACK. IF IT WEREN'T FOR THAT BS, I WOULD HAVE BEAT HIM SO MUCH EZIER
@@spudermoth you really think making his phase 2 just do a shit load of aoe is creative?
Got to give the game more credit
This is a pretty big yap sesh tbh, sure he makes some good points but his entire thing on Romina and Radahn is really stupid
Aren't all critique videos yap sessions?
@@wonderofu1603 please dont send calamity down on my ass :(
I had 6 different save files prepared before the dlc dropped and only ever used 2 of them.
My biggest issue is that there’s just no good reason to play it. Some of the bosses are cool don’t get me wrong; Midra, Rellana, and Midra are easily in my top 5 ER bosses, but after I beat them I feel little to no motivation to move forward with the dlc. It’s not like there’s these compelling lore beats driving us or the tarnished forward. We don’t become a lord or anything cool like that after beating Consort Radahn, we get a neat little headband and a 20 second cutscene of something we already pieced together 🥲👍.
Radahn himself was a letdown as well. Why was he here? Because of some arrangement made between him and Miquella that we had zero ability to put together in the base game alone? I call bs. We didn’t even get to see him in his right mind, he’s just a husk again… whoopty doo I guess?
Based
radahn never agreed to being miquellas consort thats why he had to do it like this
holy mald IGN needs you lil bro
When is this "game journalists hate fromsoft games" thing gonna end, Elden Ring is literally one of the best reviewed games of all time.
I was on Ng+3 when I got the dlc. I never summoned another player until I got to Radahn and had to deal with his BS in his second phase. I summoned someone for help, saw the forgettable ending, and never picked the game up again (I also don't have the time to play through the base game and dlc, I never thought I'd say this but it might be too big).
Before the release of the DLC I was hoping Godwyn would have been the finale boss and since he is soulless his body could have been taken control by an Outer God, hell he could have became an Outer God himself. Either way seeing Radahn again is cool but I was disappointed we had to fight him again instead of having an original final boss for the DLC.
Sekiro and the base elden ring game did the same thing with it's games. Owl, corrupted monk, morgot and even isshen showed up in two separate boss fights. It just sounds like you had particular expectations that didn't get met
@@wonderofu1603 nah, im talking about expectations to add a very specific boss. It's stupid.
Fromsoft has always repeated bosses like this and they do it in a cool way every time. Again, sekiros final boss is repeated in the same way.
Not sure why it's suddenly an issue
@@spudermoth In the text it says “I was hoping” which means I am giving my personal opinion and dislike on the matter of the final boss it was never about my expectations because I never would have known who the boss was going to be anyway but I still it rather have been someone else than Radahn.
@@spudermoth I love Elden ring it's my favorite game of all time and really enjoyed the dlc, but you simp super hard against any criticism of it like a zealot on every comment critiquing it.
Yeah man just imagine you enter that same gate and the eclipse is finnaly happening, you see a dark figure rising up, it's Godwyn Prince of Death, and when the Tarnished defeats him, he dies a true death, like Miquella wanted for him to reincarnate as a True living God, Godwyn the Eternal. Imagine that bro, it would be so so much better.
i like consort radahn boss fight and especially more so after the nerf, my issue is that he/miquella being the final boss, i really REALLY thought something else would happen after that fight, some secret final boss.
That being said, miazaki did say more elden ring content is not off the table, just no plans at the moment for it, that includes even more DLC. so lets hope more is to come.
i can appreciate your criticism but its really up to personal opinion : i hated on divine beast ever since the dlc released and i absolutely adore romina fight but yeah you got a valid point, even if the dlc isnt 10/10 its still 8-9/10
welp we dont agree on a lot of points but i think the reason behind the bad is the scale of elden ring, the best souls experiences are concise, not 100 hours long. bloodborne and sekiro to me are the best overall experiences and they are both the shortest in the fromsoft catalogue
Well you can blame all the people that said they wanted to fight prime Radahn for him being the final boss he also suffers from Malenia syndrome aka incredible tough boss awful rewards.
I liked Prime Radahn at the end. No issue with it. Currently playing DS1 and it is god awful. Im fully convinced people love thay game for pure nostalgia because it's horrible and no boss fight has been enjoyable yet and im on Neto
I used to have a lot of problems with ds1 and was in your boat, tbh I think the boss roster isn't all that good in base game but I feel like everything besides the bosses is really well done.
@@GameitMicah I respectfully disagree.
@@PurpleGengar822 W
they fixed the gaius hit boxes a while ago
It doesnt change the experience I had with him, plus it just shows that they had an unfinished unpolished boss.
I feel like people are shitting on your takes a bit much, Ill give my own opinion here.
1. Scadutree Fragments. I think they're a great way to make levelling easy in the DLC. They did it with prayer beads in Sekiro, so it could have worked here as well. However, I agree with you,
in that they messed up hard with the placement of these fragments, they're just too random, there's too many of them, and there's like 0 lore significance behind why they exist.
2. Exploration. Hard agree in that exploration in the DLC is abyssmal. A lot of people say the world is supposed to feel empty, but even if you assumed that on a stretch, it should only apply to areas that were purged, like the gravesite plains. There's no reason for areas such as Cerulean Coast, Jagged Peak and Abyssal Woods to feel as empty as they were. I couldnt agree more that the abyssal woods should have either been more linear, or had more content. A great idea would have been to add a second steed which you can use exclusively in the area, and some more horrifying creatures, because it felt so tedious to go through in NG+.
I would also like to point out the finger ruins, which were criminally empty and worthless apart from progressing Ymir's quest.
3. Bosses. This is one part where I gotta disagree with you. If we look at the remembrance bosses of the DLC, they're all a lot more memorable for me than the base game bosses. Messmer and Bayle are the two best bosses in the entire game for me, and Midra is high A Tier because of his design, his lore, and his amazing OST. The Dancing Lion definitely had camera problems, but I found that by dodging away and keeping distance when I didnt need to attack, those werent too bad. And as for Romina, while I thought her design was really cool as an insect lover, I agree that the fight itself was pretty lacking, and the hitboxes were weird.
I feel like Gaius gets too much hate, his only bullshit attack is his straight charge forward, and while it was frustrating, I didnt find anything else he did unfair in any way. He had a cool design, and I liked learning his moveset.
Now one part of the DLC Bosses which sucks, is the lack of buildup. Messmer, Midra and the Lion are the only bosses which get cutscenes(Im not including radahn since he is a final boss), and the rest feel like they were just plopped in randomly. Especially Rellana, she could have used a cutscene, some buildup, or at least some voicelines, but she got none of those.
I will make no comments on the final boss since I havent fought it. However I will state my disappointment in the overall story of the DLC, I think it had a decent buildup and a really poor finale. I dont mind that Messmer wasn't the final boss, but having it be radahn felt weird and kind of lacking imo. Thats all I gotta say. Great video!!
Huge respect brother, I appreciate this comment a lot.
I don't know if it's a controversial opinion but I actually vastly preferred the dlc to base game. I will say that shadutree fragments were really stupid and should've just been on the path through the dlc or not be there at all and same goes for revered spirit ashes, however I personally thought that all the bosses were actually pretty fun, I think there was a lot more potential for them, and Midra's area was way too big for what it was and not being able to use torrent, however in my opinion the characters (especially Igon, Ansbach, Thiollier, and Freyja), the areas, most of the bosses were pretty good. Mesmer should be more important but I don't think he should be the final boss, I hate Romina there are no excuses for Romina, Gaius was a cool idea but he just ends up being annoying, some were too forgettable, Rellana is cool, i think Radahn is a really cool boss, but could have been done better, and the only bad about Bayle is his rewards aren't all that great. Despite all these flaws I still think the dlc was great and actually better than basegame and I will die on that hill.
Fair, but out of curiosity what would you rate sote?
@@GameitMicah probably 8.5/10 or 9/10, i will agree that there are too many things bad about it to be a perfect 10, but I still loved it.
@@NFProphet Big Ws, glad you enjoyed it bro
Let us all gather for Elden ring 2
Great video bro!
I appreciate that!
I didn’t mind the DLC, but it wasn’t as exciting as the base game. It didn’t make much sense to me, and one of the quests I screwed up because I didn’t speak to the NPCs correctly, and I wouldn’t have known that unless I looked up a walk through which I really didn’t want to do. The dragons were cool, I think that was my fave part but other than that the only thing I noticed is it was slightly harder. Deff enjoyed the base game more.
Shadow of the Erdtree has every problem I have with base game Elden Ring multiplied by ten, and Elden Ring was already my least enjoyed Soulsborne game. SOTE has even less replayability than the base game since if you treat it like your first playthrough, doing everything possible, the little magic it had before will be gone because you've already seen it. If you rush through everything, Scadutree fragments will be a massive attempt at wasting of your time and the bosses are still tiring at best. I could go on for hours about the problems with even the best fights of this DLC, and even ignoring those, none of the areas or bosses here come close to the highs of other souls games, and the lows are probably the worst content FromSoftware has ever put out. So, what's the best thing you can do for yourself this DLC? Simple. Never play it ever again.
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6:14 please what song is this, i recognize it so much but i just can't put my finger on it
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@@GameitMicah thanks!
It's such a relaxing song...
wait wait wait what do you mean the ashes of ariandel was weak????
2 bosses, 1 of em is ass 1 of em is great
As much as i think pre nerf radahn felt robotic and shit i really liked the bossfight when not using parrys while usig parrys it was mid and just boring asf no coreography nor actual rythm just 3 parries crit and some lightspeed shit as for gaius I think i liked him only because i light rolled so i never felt inconsistance and the ending is just boring as shit
I disagree with a lot, but ya know, different strokes for different folks. I will agree with your abyssal woods critique, it would've benefitted from being more linear. I didn't see them taking away torrent as them saying this will be linear, I just thought their would at least be more to pick up. Found myself being like this is kind of annoying, but that's about it. I left a comment on your original vid with my views so I won't repeat. Disagree, but still a good video so I'll leave a like lol
Lol thank you and I appreciate how both comments you acknowledge the DLC is subjective
Shadow of the erdtree was nothing short of an amazing experience and saying otherwise is disingenuous
@wonderofu1603 look at how pathetic you are
its fine, you can like the dlc without defending it like a sunday school teacher
@@wonderofu1603 such a terrible take
@格好つける another typical cry baby
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the AUDACITY to not include a warning at the beginning of this video makes me feel hurt! i am severely offended! someone call the redditors!
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i think you’re tripping about the “Radahn again” thing. I feel like most people wanted to fight radahn in his prime. I was personally super stoked to fight him without him being crippled
Except that wasn’t even prime Radahn 😅 it was puppet Radahn in Mohg’s body and he wasn’t even mounted.
Also there was basically nothing tying Radahn and Miquella prior to the dlc lore drops. Makes them being together for the ending feel like a gimmick
Most people wanted to fight a version Godwyn something that wasn't the same npc we had already seen.
Who tf wanted prime Radahn (he's not even in his prime in the DLC) as the final boss of the DLC?
@@alinalisan3361 People that didn't play souls games before Elden Ring released.
Excellent point about the tree fragments especially if you play more than one character. Also be prepared to be attacked by simp cuck zealots even tho you stated it was your favorite game and also mine. Also people need to stop comparing their last games saying why it's reason for things to be exactly how it was. Guys! They always make slight changes to every game they make that argument is stupid.
I agree with all your points about this 10/10 dlc
I don’t understand your argument about the fragments, like you’re frustrated, but what the answer? How else do they level the playing field when players are rolling into dlc ranging from lev 60-700. And you complain about some fragments requiring too much exploration, but you answered that already. You really only need lev 12, but plebs that need max level are given that through said exploration
Like I said it should have either been all on main path or removed and done the classic way, plus only needing 12 makes the whole system feel trivial and repetitive.
Ds2 dlcs made me love the game. Fume knight is just wow
skill issue
Unlike my skills with your mom last night
I personally feel like these bosses would've felt less like a chore if there was more effort put into their stories and if the overrall plot was more fleshed out. I love Elden Ring but this DLC in terms of world exploration and character exploration/story was definitely lacking and reusing radahn just felt like a cop out. Having Godwyn in this story, be it a boss or a major character in the DLC would've created more intrigue and depth to the overall story. So in short I def agree with ur statements/thoughts. Esp for such a successful game this DLC was definitely lackluster
Apparently this DLC wasn't even planned before the base game released, and you can definitely tell.
Ringed city the best… i know what kinda channel this is now. Ds3 fanboy. Ringed swamp is what it is
Kinda dohshit take tbh
That's your opinion
The lore for Radahn being there is also bullshit. It should have been fucking Godwyn. Why am I fighting a bad version of an enjoyable base game boss when the fucked up mermaid zombie remains unfought.
Godwyns whole lore thing is that he’s dead. Super dead, really dead, so dead he cannot be alive. I want godwyn to be in the second dlc if it comes out. But it probably won’t cuz he’s just super dead.
@@The_FatherOfCats When did a boss being dead stop it from kicking our arse in past games
I feel like all your DLC critic could apply to the base game as well. It's still a good game that got me hooked for +150 hours, but in so many ways a step down from Bloodborn and Dark Souls imo.
Absolutely, you are completely right. The issue is the problems with base game got worse in the DLC/they didnt fix any of these issues.
Imo I think SOTE is too large for it’s own good. It seems like FromSoft wanted to fit in as much lore as possible because there’s a low chance for an Elden ring 2. But all that ended up doing was giving the fans an incomplete puzzle,Because Miquella’s story feels like it was shaved down to meet the deadline.
Yeah like I said nothing feels like it can stand strong on its own everything about this DLC doesnt feel as fleshed out as it should have been
The thing that really annoys me with the DLC is the fact that EVERY SINGLE MAJOR OUTER GOD is crammed into the land of shadow. It's basically the size of Limgrave and Liurnia and you're telling me that the Scarlet Rot, Frenzy Flame, Formless Mother and The Greater Will just coexist here?
Well, not the Greater Will since it just left the lands between but you get the point
the actual gods themselves are not there. Not even the scarlet rot one. Personally i don't have an issue with it as if they're trying to take over the lands between would that not also include the lands of shadow? Midra (frenzy flame) was already living there BEFORE he was even chosen as the lord of frenzied flame so it definitely makes sense for him to be there
I know NOTHING about elden ring but micah man uploaded so i completely agree with whatever you said.
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You overexaggerate so many things to support your opinions. It also seems like you've missed quite a bit of content, especially with Metyr. I think you had set expectations for something very specific and got disappointed when the DLC didn't turn out that way.
The scadutree fragments are easy to come by and you can get 30 fragments just going through the zones with some exploration. They carry over to ng+, so you can stack them up over multiple playthroughs. As for cerulean coast, it is a small zone when you actually look at the map, it makes sense that there's not going to be that much content. Even so it has a few secret locations and good loot, which it seems you never found or left them out on purpose.
Your takes on Radahn don't have much basis. I really don't know what your expectations were for that fight. You think the fight is bad because to dodge the triple slash you need movement, positioning and timing. The same things you need in every boss fight. Then the part with Radahn not being a clever boss fight, you are supposed to be the clever one not the boss. It's a challenging boss which forces you to come up with a clever build to beat it, if you can't beat it using your skill alone. There are multiple ways to make fight much easier and they are all readily available.
It's funny at 11:50 when you make fun of opposing views with a nasal nerd voice, but your own voice in this video starts turning nasal every time you get excited 😂
It's funny that I was starting to think you had a point until you completely ruined your credibility by making fun of my voice. It's a game, you're letting yourself get that upset like an absolute clown.
@@GameitMicah Chill bro, it's critique on your video not assault on your character. Hence the "in this video" in my comment.
I'm pointing out to you that using a mocking voice to represent views opposing to yours is not a good way to do it.
Just like you said it, it discredits what you are trying to communicate.
@@Sotamursu90 Exactly, its a critique. Its ridiculous to make it about anything else lol. Its just a game and I am just sharing my opinion on game, thats all lmfao
Witcher 3 caused open worlds to be a thing. The first game to popularize open world
Yeah that's fair I kinda forgot about Witcher 3 lol
@@GameitMicah np. Great video tho