Tbh it’s unrealistic in my opinion. Where I’m from anyway, this Chris would be the one getting bullied she’d never be the popular girl. The actress is great but the character doesn’t make sense to me when I watch it. That could just because of where I’m from tho
@@notsocuteotaku8662 guys can compliment each other, it just seems like his aggression towards the guy being gay could be more than what we see. lots of guys push being macho and homophobic to give who they actually are
Aya-Mei Duncan same. i am a huge riverdale stan been there since the beginning but i’m also a huge carrie stan and i think they butchered this musical. I really hope they don’t wreck heathers.
emoshell idk i think she tries way too hard and it's not supposed to be an opera role. and when she sings the 'dont go' part it sounds like 'dont goo' and it cracks me up lol idk she has a good voice but it's not suited for playing carrie's mom
How is it that this entire cast is so talented?! Not only the leads but the ensemble too, I’ve seen so many versions of this song where the ensemble drowns out the actress playing Chris so it’s really nice to see a production that looks this professional. Also the direction for this song was amazing!
I love that line of hers! I think it’s because she knows what she is doing is wrong but bad parenting and parent figures is a theme of this show so I think it’s just she doesn’t know what else to do when things don’t go her way than to follow what her father does and make people suffer
I want to chime in and say I really like how they portrayed Tommy Ross. He has shades kindness and purity, but his blatant homophobia and total indifference to Chris's bullying makes him one of the bad guys, and by horror standards, he had to go.
@@kevinkirley692 Billy is in no way pure, he's just kinda stupid and you can't help but feel sorry for stupid characters sometimes but I mean they're right about Tommy.
@Annabelle Lynn As someone around their age, a lot do. Not to generalise; I'd say most teenagers are pretty empathetic. But a lot aren't. But since making this comment, I've come to realise that most people who act as heinous as Chris and Billy don't develop emotionally with age
True smh my classmates won’t ever shut up about the stupid hierarchy but then again the only reason (probably) that I’m not getting targeted is i’m in rotc
@@alexandersean4708 Considering she's been in two musicals full of mean girls and never quite reached their level in her role, being a alternative chick with great snark in one and a weak-willed but ultimately good person pushed into doing progressively worse things.
Ok I love everything about this performance-the choreography, everyone’s voices, the acting, the girl in the purple top and striped skirt-but what made me giggle was Billy’s shirt saying “This is what awesome looks like”
I love the real moment at the end where we see the real Chris. The Chris that is hurting and needs to be mean to make herself feel better. We get to see how Chris knows her actions are wrong but she also knows if she stops she will lose her popularity. This is just how I played into the last lines
Is it bad I may have a massive crush on Chris (even though She’s a horrible person) like is it just me being a giant raging lesbian 😂 but this whole cast is so talented, I wish the original cast recording was done by this cast. The emotions are so raw.
Ashlee's Bathroom the theory which requires the smallest number of assumptions is usually correct. In other words, it’s more likely that she was straight and had no romantic interest in Carrie
That whole sudden demeanor change during the last few seconds blows me away. This girl needs to be winning Tony Awards. She is a true ACTRESS. My goodness.
Chris: Guess what, ever since the world began Same plot, everyone's been dumping on their fellow man Pounding people they feel better than I hope you're taking notes cause You feel everyone deserves a shot Get real Some of us have got it, girl And some got squat That's the truth, oh honey, like it or not I hate to break it to you My daddy taught me You get no where being nice So now I'm sharing his advice: The world according to Chris is Better to strike then get struck Better to screw then get screwed You'd probably think it's bizarre But that's the way things are (Spoken) Sue: But that doesn't mean it has to be that way! What does it cost to be kind? Chris: Oh my God, what have you done with my best friend? Billy, tell me, am I right, or am I right? Billy: Trust me I swear There's a dick in every class Not fair Each and every time I fail those losers pass Hey, everyone of them can kiss my ass Chris: You wonder why I love him Billy: One year, there was this good looking guy So queer And on top of that he has a wandering eye One day he looks at me And, huh, bye-bye Chris: I bet he got the message Chris and Billy: We're here to tell you how this whole damn freak show works All: Oh, yeah yeah yeah Chris and Billy: If you don't listen, then you're jerks! All: The world according to Chris is Better to punch than get punched Better to burn than get burned Learn that and you're gonna go far Cause that's the way things are Chris: Ha-na na na na na na na na Ha-na na na na na na na All: Ha-na na na na na na na na Ha-na na na na na na na (Spoken) Sue: Do you believe her? Tommy: C'mon, she's just being Chris Sue: You weren't there. It was awful. We were hurting Carrie! Tommy: Ah, I'm sure it wasn't that bad Sue: Tommy, you don't understand What was just a joke got out of hand We kept on screaming til she hit the floor (Spoken) Tommy: C'mon, everybody was doing it Sue: Hey, I was in there, too What came over me was something new I did things I'd never done before And now I wish there's something I could do or say I've never ever felt this way Tommy: Look, Sue Don't be so hard on yourself You can tell me to keep my mouth shut But, wanna know what I'd advise? Sue: What? Tommy: Apologize (Spoken) Sue: Apologize. Oh, Tommy! That's genius! Chris: Ew, Sue I can tell you're feeling sad All: Boo Hoo! So, we clobbered Carrie and that's too damn bad Chris: This is why you've gotta love my dad All: He's got the right idea Chris: My daddy taught me who's on top and who's below All: Who's below Chris: And now its time I let you know The world according to Chris... (Spoken) Sue: You're joking, right? You can't possibly mean all this? Chris: Why are you being such a buzz-kill? Sue: Chris, grow up All: Ha-na na na na na na na Ha-na na na na na na na na Billy: Let's start this party, people! The world according to Chris The world according to Chris The world according to Chris The world according to Chris Chris: (softly) The world according to Chris is Better to whip than get whipped Even if somebody bleeds Please Nobody dies from a scar And that's the way things Are
I can’t be the only one who thought Billy was drinking out of a spray bottle at first, and it was so in character I just didn’t question it until I noticed the broken seal.
I just found out that when my dad was like 12 years old he went to see the original Carrie movie at the cinema. Is really weird because I am 12 years old now and I am completely obcessed with the Carrie the musical. Probably it's a coincidence but I think is really weird.
I kind of think the actress playing Chris has a better chest voice than head voice. When she sings high, it comes out squeaky and forced. No hate to her, I just think it's not the best decision. Don't hate me lol
this is the 2012? 13? seattle production with keaton whittaker and Alice Ripley!! it's my personal favorite cast. if you'd like the link to the proshot I gotchu!
Definitely by professionals, not on Broadway. This was the Seattle production from 2013. Kendra Kassebaum and Alice Ripley were in this cast as Miss Gardner and Margaret respectively.
As someone who is fair in life, not saying any of you aren’t but- I watch Riverdale, and I love this singer so fricking much and I love Camila/Veronica singing it as well. Stage: But it’s harder to perform on a stage, but that’s not an excuse obviously. And her voice suited the song so well, but with the high notes it did sound forced. Riverdale: Camila obviously slayed the song, but she couldn’t hit the highest note and this singer did. She was amazing though and suited the role more. But she was also auto-tuned. So you can’t compare them.
Camilla has no strength in her vocals. Most riverdale cast members can sing fine but none of them have musical theater voices. Camilla is just passable to me due to the excessive auto tune and lack of strength or power in her vocals
This is the ONLY version I’ve ever seen where Chris is AUTHENTIC and not forcing the lines out. I love it
Preach
Agreed, but she's still gotta project more
Agreed. I wish I knew who played her, so I could see if she has been in anymore productions.
@@jewelbass2914 Her name's Tessa Archer
Off-Broadway 2012 is so good too!
I love that this Chris is a little edgier and less of a Regina George idea of the popular girl
It’s more realistic.
She’s a cruel Janis
Tbh it’s unrealistic in my opinion. Where I’m from anyway, this Chris would be the one getting bullied she’d never be the popular girl. The actress is great but the character doesn’t make sense to me when I watch it. That could just because of where I’m from tho
Mean girls come in different packages.
@@ryleigh2723 Janis is also a mean girl. Just the unpopular kind.
the fact that billy said "good looking guy" and then talked about how gay the guy was says something
so guys can't compliment each other?
@@notsocuteotaku8662 You know, this coming from Billy...Doesn't fit him, you know? That's why it's...Suspicious :V
@@notsocuteotaku8662 guys can compliment each other, it just seems like his aggression towards the guy being gay could be more than what we see. lots of guys push being macho and homophobic to give who they actually are
the song writing is genius
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Her voice just seems to float. It seems so delicate, I love it.
whoop whoop snufkin
The girl who played Chris is an amazing artist.. i can totally feel it. And the entire part was amazing❣❣
She’s a really good actress 😯
her voice is so strong and beautiful. I need to recover after riverdale.
Aya-Mei Duncan same. i am a huge riverdale stan been there since the beginning but i’m also a huge carrie stan and i think they butchered this musical. I really hope they don’t wreck heathers.
@@georgia988 im listening to beautiful now...its so bad. WHY RIVERDALE, WHY
@@aya9118 wait i dont understand did they ruin the songs or something? I actuallu quite like the covers
Hark Okay same
georgia - They wrecked the Heathers.
Tessa Archer (Chris) is soooo good!!! Wish there was a soundtrack recording with this cast :')
the mom from this version is way worse than marin mazzie
emoshell idk i think she tries way too hard and it's not supposed to be an opera role. and when she sings the 'dont go' part it sounds like 'dont goo' and it cracks me up lol idk she has a good voice but it's not suited for playing carrie's mom
@@leaf111 but the Carrie of this version is the best one.
I need to see a version of Carrie with both Tessa Archer as Chris and Christy Altomare as Sue.
2:00
Am I the only one obsessed with how she said “the world according to Chris” here?😍
no your not i totally am lol
I AMMMMMM
i keep repeating that part i love it so much omg-
Yes this is exactly the moment when I’ve fallen in love with Chris😭😍
I love her version. She sounds so amezing
Whoever played Chris in this, their acting is amazing
Tessa Archer
Whoever the girl is who played Chris is amazing and makes Chris feel like a real person
Tessa Archer
How is it that this entire cast is so talented?! Not only the leads but the ensemble too, I’ve seen so many versions of this song where the ensemble drowns out the actress playing Chris so it’s really nice to see a production that looks this professional. Also the direction for this song was amazing!
Right?? This entire production is insane and underrated as far as musicals so
I love the way she sings it,like she's mocking her friend it's so good!!
I think this is my new favourite Chris, if I ever play Chris, I wanna play her like this.
I feel like there is more to Chris than meets the eye. There is something more there. That last part.. no one dies from a scar... dang
I love that line of hers! I think it’s because she knows what she is doing is wrong but bad parenting and parent figures is a theme of this show so I think it’s just she doesn’t know what else to do when things don’t go her way than to follow what her father does and make people suffer
It's obvious her father is abusive... yikes.
I’d assume physical abuse and possibly sexual abuse.
In the books Billy constantly r@pes her, so she absolutely has some previous trauma there.
Her father abuses her. That’s what he taught her. Tough up and shut up
I want to chime in and say I really like how they portrayed Tommy Ross. He has shades kindness and purity, but his blatant homophobia and total indifference to Chris's bullying makes him one of the bad guys, and by horror standards, he had to go.
Jughead Joneser I’m sorry are you talking about Tommy or Billy?
@@kevinkirley692 Billy is in no way pure, he's just kinda stupid and you can't help but feel sorry for stupid characters sometimes but I mean they're right about Tommy.
Tommy? A homophobe???? Ion think
When was he homophobic?
@@pixel_bites1081 i think they were talking about billy, in his verse where he talks about the guy he beat up because he thought that guy was gay
It's sad how many teenagers think like this.
@@STARSILVER117 Your sister is like THAT?!
I feel so bad for you.
@Annabelle Lynn As someone around their age, a lot do. Not to generalise; I'd say most teenagers are pretty empathetic. But a lot aren't. But since making this comment, I've come to realise that most people who act as heinous as Chris and Billy don't develop emotionally with age
Well they are right
True smh my classmates won’t ever shut up about the stupid hierarchy but then again the only reason (probably) that I’m not getting targeted is i’m in rotc
@@mrfreedoom2003 no they’re not.
2:53 I've never noticed how nervous that George guy looks when Billy talks about knocking out a gay guy.
Try to see the same thing you did but I couldn't find it haha
Nobody is nervous o.o
Doggyfroggy2001
Queer also means weird and unusual as well, tho
In the show George has several lines that could lead the audience to believe he has feelings for the male lead Tommy
Moonlight Adventure Goth it really doesnt
I’ve become too obsessed with the extras. They’re just too amazing, so much personality and I WANT TO KNOW MORE haha
Okay I’ve just looked back on this and now I know more about the extras and still love them.
Is it just me or does this Chris look fuckloads like Johanna mason from the hunger games?
Giselle Heron i thought I was the only one😂😂
Finally someone else thinks this!!
exactly!!!p
THAT WAS MY FIRST THOUGHT
This song in a nutshell:
Chris: I hate Carrie.
Sue: no, we should be nice.
Chris: nah.
Sue: SHUT UP HEATHER.
What is your profile picture-
Deer in a toilet.... lol I found it on google. I'm kinda weird.
more like shut up sue
I can’t escape the Heathers I thought I killed the red one fuck sake
@@JD-gj8zx lol Jd
2:01 im in love with the way she says chris
I love how sweet Chris' voice is. A total contrast to the song.
this casts chemistry is where its at. this is amazing
I really, really want to see Barret Wilbert Weed sing this.
Seeing anyone sing this song is also great. 😁
Y E S
They need a rerun on broadway
My heart couldn’t take it 😅
The idea of Barrett playing the cruel queen bee is an interesting one. It’d be cool to see how she pulled it off.
@@alexandersean4708 Considering she's been in two musicals full of mean girls and never quite reached their level in her role, being a alternative chick with great snark in one and a weak-willed but ultimately good person pushed into doing progressively worse things.
5:51 love that part when she whispers “please”, so much emotion
Ok I love everything about this performance-the choreography, everyone’s voices, the acting, the girl in the purple top and striped skirt-but what made me giggle was Billy’s shirt saying “This is what awesome looks like”
Mother Nelly, this is too perfect.
She depicts her character's mood perfectly.
These actors are awesome.
The extras in this have so much personality!
That little "please" she does in the last part gets me every time.
4:39 is everything omg lmao
Its hilarious out of context lmao
I love the real moment at the end where we see the real Chris. The Chris that is hurting and needs to be mean to make herself feel better. We get to see how Chris knows her actions are wrong but she also knows if she stops she will lose her popularity. This is just how I played into the last lines
Lauren Lopez would KILL IT as Chris
I also really think Barret Wilbert Weed would be so good!
Acting wise she would but her voice may be a bit too nice
@@alexconverse4839 I agree. I think she’d make a good Sue though. Jaime Lyn would be AMAZING as Chris 😍❣️❣️
DEADASS
I want to see Jaime Lyn Beatty sing the destruction, also, hello fellow StarKids!
She is the best Chris I've ever seen. I love her!
The girl in the stripped skirt is real into this and I enjoy it
Doggyfroggy2001 striped
ikr lol
Doggyfroggy2001 She plays Norma.
dududud
She’s so talented, I love the way she connected to this character and her voice is incredible 😍
Opinion: the girl playing Chris would be PHENOMENAL as Evelyn Nesbit in Ragtime.
Or as Heather Macnamara.
It's not am opinion, it's just a fact.
@@multifanderisverycrafty Agreed.
this is my all time favorite carrie production. best casting ever
Her voice is so cute & sweet
0:11 the lori loughlin college scandal be like
Lmao
i like hearing the quite talented cast's imperfections in the vocals and acting its more real
I like this one so much more than the Broadway one
this chris girl is SO GOOD she's hilarious
i loveeee this cast! i've watched the whole musical with this cast (on video) but i can't find it again :( anyway this show is amazing!!!
ua-cam.com/video/8yh-r7SBV80/v-deo.html here you go
It kinda sucks this musical had such a short run. Imo the biggest problem was the mic malfunctions with the pig blood scene.
2:31 i just love how she says:"Tell me am i right or am i right?"
This has to be one of my favorite songs in the musical. It's also definitely the best production.
Is it bad I may have a massive crush on Chris (even though She’s a horrible person) like is it just me being a giant raging lesbian 😂 but this whole cast is so talented, I wish the original cast recording was done by this cast. The emotions are so raw.
same😭
Ahhh I love this version of the musical!
I love this version of Chris this is beyond my favourite version
The perfect Chris, like literally.
This is fantastic. All parts played amazingly and just... Awesome! Digging Sue the most, shes a good actor.
no one can tell me sue wasn't gay for carrie. no one.
I mean she has a boyfriend...
@@derronmendel9650 she can be bi... And maybe felt scared to admit it?
Ashlee's Bathroom the theory which requires the smallest number of assumptions is usually correct. In other words, it’s more likely that she was straight and had no romantic interest in Carrie
@@uakk9171 true.
Gau Kua i was just talking about the romantic tension i wasn’t trying to start a fan theory
I’m saying it this is the best production of Carrie I’ve seen
I love ❤️ this version of Carrie the Musical.
Saw this production twice. Such an amazing cast. I preferred this Chris over the Off=Broadway one (saw that production too).
That whole sudden demeanor change during the last few seconds blows me away. This girl needs to be winning Tony Awards. She is a true ACTRESS. My goodness.
5:39
OH SWEET BABY CHRIS
Green and purple dragon the way she says please 😭
Chris:
Guess what, ever since the world began
Same plot, everyone's been dumping on their fellow man
Pounding people they feel better than
I hope you're taking notes cause
You feel everyone deserves a shot
Get real
Some of us have got it, girl
And some got squat
That's the truth, oh honey, like it or not
I hate to break it to you
My daddy taught me
You get no where being nice
So now I'm sharing his advice:
The world according to Chris is
Better to strike then get struck
Better to screw then get screwed
You'd probably think it's bizarre
But that's the way things are
(Spoken)
Sue: But that doesn't mean it has to be that way! What does it cost to be kind?
Chris: Oh my God, what have you done with my best friend?
Billy, tell me, am I right, or am I right?
Billy:
Trust me
I swear
There's a dick in every class
Not fair
Each and every time I fail those losers pass
Hey, everyone of them can kiss my ass
Chris:
You wonder why I love him
Billy:
One year, there was this good looking guy
So queer
And on top of that he has a wandering eye
One day he looks at me
And, huh, bye-bye
Chris:
I bet he got the message
Chris and Billy:
We're here to tell you how this whole damn freak show works
All:
Oh, yeah yeah yeah
Chris and Billy:
If you don't listen, then you're jerks!
All:
The world according to Chris is
Better to punch than get punched
Better to burn than get burned
Learn that and you're gonna go far
Cause that's the way things are
Chris:
Ha-na na na na na na na na
Ha-na na na na na na na
All:
Ha-na na na na na na na na
Ha-na na na na na na na
(Spoken)
Sue: Do you believe her?
Tommy: C'mon, she's just being Chris
Sue: You weren't there. It was awful. We were hurting Carrie!
Tommy: Ah, I'm sure it wasn't that bad
Sue:
Tommy, you don't understand
What was just a joke got out of hand
We kept on screaming til she hit the floor
(Spoken)
Tommy: C'mon, everybody was doing it
Sue:
Hey, I was in there, too
What came over me was something new
I did things I'd never done before
And now I wish there's something
I could do or say
I've never ever felt this way
Tommy:
Look, Sue
Don't be so hard on yourself
You can tell me to keep my mouth shut
But, wanna know what I'd advise?
Sue:
What?
Tommy:
Apologize
(Spoken)
Sue: Apologize. Oh, Tommy! That's genius!
Chris:
Ew, Sue
I can tell you're feeling sad
All:
Boo Hoo!
So, we clobbered Carrie and that's too damn bad
Chris:
This is why you've gotta love my dad
All:
He's got the right idea
Chris:
My daddy taught me who's on top and who's below
All:
Who's below
Chris:
And now its time I let you know
The world according to Chris...
(Spoken)
Sue: You're joking, right? You can't possibly mean all this?
Chris: Why are you being such a buzz-kill?
Sue: Chris, grow up
All:
Ha-na na na na na na na
Ha-na na na na na na na na
Billy:
Let's start this party, people!
The world according to Chris
The world according to Chris
The world according to Chris
The world according to Chris
Chris:
(softly)
The world according to Chris is
Better to whip than get whipped
Even if somebody bleeds
Please
Nobody dies from a scar
And that's the way things
Are
You're a saint-
You are a legend tysm
What performance is this, and where?
ua-cam.com/video/8yh-r7SBV80/v-deo.html
Seattle 2013 Tessa Archer
Just search up carrie the musical on yt
how do we live in a world where "menstruation" is more cringeworthy than the word "rape"?
I need this whole production right now
Right? Please someone link me to the full performance😭
ua-cam.com/video/8yh-r7SBV80/v-deo.html go buck wild, my friends! here's the entire proshot 2012 Seattle production!
This is my favourite version of this song
5:44 I felt that
1:24 song starts
You're an actual saint.
She is amazing
Thank you so much for uploading this! You should do IN next please!
Arianna Schaeffer I will do my best
Everyone's talking about how this is so true about people in their school-
Im just in love with her vocals
I can’t be the only one who thought Billy was drinking out of a spray bottle at first, and it was so in character I just didn’t question it until I noticed the broken seal.
This chris is so good
I just found out that when my dad was like 12 years old he went to see the original Carrie movie at the cinema. Is really weird because I am 12 years old now and I am completely obcessed with the Carrie the musical. Probably it's a coincidence but I think is really weird.
2:01
I'm just gonna put this here since I keep replaying that part..
i love this chris but her voice is kinda squeaky at times
I love her voice
2:01
This whole time I thought when she said the last “the world according to Chris” I thought sue was singing that part
that one guy looks like Mark Zuckerberg in the thumbnail 😂
NO WHY I CANT STOP SEEING IT NOW
I thought it was Santino Fontana lmao
That last part is so sad
She is my FAVORITE Chris (and she’s pretty 😳)
Why isn’t this the official cast recording on Apple Music and Spotify 😭
billie was so offbeat ew no offense
omg really
Right? ...a little slow ... But his words were clear. .. But a little behind
i think he was trying to portray like being.. drunk? because in that scene u can see hes holding a bottle so
2:00 yes
Sorry but this Chris is better than the original :/
did anyone else notice 5:44 the girl dropped the crisps 😭😭
Isn’t this the Seattle Production?
I kind of think the actress playing Chris has a better chest voice than head voice. When she sings high, it comes out squeaky and forced. No hate to her, I just think it's not the best decision.
Don't hate me lol
Nice
Is the girl in blue and white Cecily Strong?
This is the only version I’ve seen when no auto tune sounds better than auto tune
I wonder who plays billy nolan
He do be kinda hot doe
is this a high school production? Everyone is so good!
this is the 2012? 13? seattle production with keaton whittaker and Alice Ripley!! it's my personal favorite cast. if you'd like the link to the proshot I gotchu!
Was this performed by professionals on Broadway; a university or Am Dram (Amatuer Dramatics)
Definitely by professionals, not on Broadway. This was the Seattle production from 2013. Kendra Kassebaum and Alice Ripley were in this cast as Miss Gardner and Margaret respectively.
As someone who is fair in life, not saying any of you aren’t but- I watch Riverdale, and I love this singer so fricking much and I love Camila/Veronica singing it as well.
Stage:
But it’s harder to perform on a stage, but that’s not an excuse obviously. And her voice suited the song so well, but with the high notes it did sound forced.
Riverdale:
Camila obviously slayed the song, but she couldn’t hit the highest note and this singer did. She was amazing though and suited the role more. But she was also auto-tuned.
So you can’t compare them.
this isn't the original, either.
Alya Strait I never said it was?
@@kianb6150 i'm sorry, i assumed that you thought this was the original for some reason seeing as you were comparing it to riverdale.
Camilla has no strength in her vocals. Most riverdale cast members can sing fine but none of them have musical theater voices. Camilla is just passable to me due to the excessive auto tune and lack of strength or power in her vocals
what production was this?
the 2012? 2013? depends on your source haha seattle production! it's my personal favorite, it has a phenomenal cast
2013 Seattle production
Do you have this sue’s “when you see”? Or maybe the finale?
What are the things on their heads mics
This is nice and I really love Chris in this but that Too Damn Bad lacked force :'
Who plays Chris in this btw?
Catalina Hendrickx Tessa Archer I’m pretty sure
@@guitarrapirata9278 thanks!
Is this the original production?
No is the 2012 one i think i have the link on UA-cam If you want
@@cameliasnroses I'm not the person who wrote this comment, but may I have the link?
@@thecheesiestcheeser ua-cam.com/video/xEYjZB0K5sI/v-deo.html here
Actually it's from 2013 in Seattle.
This Chris looks like young days Katy Perry
Who played Sue and Chris?
Larissa Schmitz and Tessa Archer respectively