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[Radu Lupu] Schubert: Piano Sonata/Fantasie No.18 in G, D.894, Op.78
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2024
- Franz Schubert (1797-1828)
Piano Sonata/Fantasie No.18 in G, D.894, Op.78
Radu Lupu (1945-), piano
00:00 1st movement-Fantasie - Part1: exposition-beginning
04:37 1st movement-Fantasie - Part1: exposition-reprise
09:11 1st movement-Fantasie - Part2: development, recapitulation
16:56 2nd movement-Andante
25:02 3rd movement-Menuetto with Trio
29:10 4rd movement-Allegretto
My performance order:
1.Ránki Dezső: 99+ %
• [Ránki Dezső] Schubert...
2.Radu Lupu: 99%
• [Radu Lupu] Schubert: ...
3.Wilhelm Kempff: 91%
• [Wilhelm Kempff] Schub...
4.Walter Gieseking: 90%
• [Walter Gieseking] Sch...
5.Sviatoslav Richter: 1.mvmt:10%, 2-3-4.mvmt:98%: 76%
• [Sviatoslav Richter] S...
6.Michel Dalberto: 1-2-3.mvmt:75%, 4.mvmt:20%: 66%
• [Michel Dalberto] Schu...
7.Alfred Brendel: 60%
• [Alfred Brendel] Schub...
I couldn't believe my eyes when I read the title. I thought I would never see Radu Lupu and Shubert's 18th piano together, and oh boy.
Hearing such an interpretation is so refreshing, and I really enjoy it.
Today we lost a legend. Rest in peace, Lupu.
'Everyone tells a story differently, and that story should be told compellingly and spontaneously. If it is not compelling and convincing, it is without value." (Radu Lupu, 1991)
Schubert performed by Radu Lupu moves me to tears. Every time I put a disc into the player I have goose-bumps. And then begins a secret journey ...
I ve always respected Radu, but this recording put him in another league altogether for me.
The care he puts into the harmonies and dynamics are incredible.
by far the most convincing recording to me for all 4 movements.
I agree that this is a masterful performance! I highly recommend that you listen to Volodos' interpretation!
Lupu's unique dynamics, and subtle rubato are in full display here.
one of the most beautiful sonatas ever written...really breathtaking..
Sad not
Lupu only passed away with his body to the grave, but his way of playing greatest composers remains forever in space and divin realm …
Wonderful
I hear the last movement of this piece on our local classical radio station (98.7 WFMT-FM) over 20 years ago and I never heard it on the station after that. All I could remember from the announcer's description of it was Schubert, 984. And here it is, thanks, UA-cam!
Исполнение -- шедевр! Как и весь Шуберт Раду Лупу! И спасибо за нотное сопровождение.
A magical touch from Mister Lupu
Schubert’s charm is so apparent in this sonata. Love it. ❤️
Exquisite, heavenly (Schubert and Lupu).
I love interpretation Radu Lupu. Outstanding! Thanks for posting!
Supreme master of Genial Schubert ! Radu Lupu !
Una delle più commoventi sonate schubertiane è uno dei più grandi pianisti schubertiani. Cosa desiderare di meglio? Grazie a voi, Franz e Radu!
This sonata my favorites are Sviatoslav Ritcher, Radu Lupu, Marek Jablonski. Since Sviatoslav Ritcher, only Radu Lupu helps me to break out.
Radu Lupu and Richter ! So differents and both so Schubertians ! Thank you very much.
I count myself very fortunate to have heard this sonata played live by both Richter (twice) and Lupu. Wonderful Schubertians both.
Don't brag...😆😅😄
He is a remarkable pianist, it's just hard to hear after Richter
@@tamazpapiashvili5075 Это после Рихтера РАДУ ЛУПУ плохо слыышно? После Раду Лупу ваш Рихтер просто студент! " Ни фразы, ни гибкости, ни объема звучания, ничего абсолютно!" От себя добавлю -- ни красоты звука и красоты звукоизвлечения ( это разные вещи ).
Just because of imminent death does not mean it necessarily should be "showing it" in the music: Schubert's Winterreise composition was a happy creative period for him. Beethoven's 2nd symphony was written at the same time as the Heilengestadt testament - A virtual suicide note, and the symphony is of the brightest mood throughout!
Quite true and well worth repeating, nothing is more fallacious than regarding musical composisitions as necessarily autobiographical.
They aren't suicide notes. They are farewell notes.
このyoutubeを見て、数十年前にこのレコードを買って聞いていたことを思い出しました。一番好きな部分は、33:13からの部分です。そして33:27からの左手の響き！！ これ以上の演奏はいまだかつて聞いたことがありません。
Shubert es uno de mis compisitores clasicos favoritos y en el dia de su cumpleaños me deleito escuchando esta hermosa sonata fantasia No 18 gracias shubert por tan bella musica
Ana, de acuerdo que esta sonata e interpretación son igualmente sublimes. Y si te encanta Franz, como a mí, sepa que su apellido se deletrea Schubert.
Simple motivation, Full of emotions.
finalement ce merveilleux pianiste me fait changer d'idée,et de sentiment.
The small differences between interpretations make the charm of always hearing a piece afresh. Trouble begins with interpreters who want to singularize themselves at all costs and end up with worthless stuff (Lang Lang...). All the great pianists cited in this chat are worth listening and comparing. As for Radu Lupu, he is the great Scubertian of our time after Brendel's retirement. But, while Brendel understood everything about this music, Lupu also feels it and YOU feel it...
lovely Trio section at 27:00 min.......
Oh, Schubert...my dear Schubert...
Exactly ... speechless, particularly the second movt!
Thanks for uploading!
RIP Maestro
tysm for the score
interpretation is magical, simple, perhaps a little bit underinflected and of reduced dynamics, slightly, slightly,
but perfect otherwise and better than the opposite
someone below says care, which sums it up, and not fussy or fussed either
So lovely!
Très belle interprétation, mesurée, une très belle respiration, proche de l'exceptionnel Vladimir Ashkenazy dans cette oeuvre mais cela à ce niveau, reste toutefois très subjectif.
The 4th movement always makes me smile.
It makes me cry
@Socke31
Yes, personal taste, of course.
This is very difficult topic. ;) IMHO, it is real opinion that one performance is better than an another performance and therefore you can setup performance ordering criteria. In other hand: how should start a beginner if he/she can find a lot of performance?
Thank You! So are you...
I just checked and IMHO Sokolov's (live-)recording really good too. Thanks for information. By the way I like very much Sokolov's recordings :)
One of my piano books has the minuet from this, or well it says it does, it says Minuet from Op. 78 but the key is different, it's transposed up to C minor.
really liked move3
...Sublime !
THANK YOU!!!
what a masterpiece!!!
@antoinezygfryd
IMHO, not. Basically it depends on piece.This sonata/fantasie can tolarate adaptable the many different kind of interpretation idea.
Schubert didn't call this a Fantasy: that descriptive title was added by the publisher. It seems to have led to overly long performances, especially of the first movement.
foarte frumos canta radu schubert. si nu pot uita cand a cantat la bucuresti cele 5 concerte de beethoven.
I wasn't saying that every pianist has to love every work a Composer wrote. I was clarifying that you don't know enough about this music.Fair enough you don't like this piece,but from what I read,it just tells me that you don't know how to appreciate music such as this.Because if you were a true musician, you'd say something like 'I don't like this piece, however I can can appreciate the complexity and feeling that has been put into this work' whereas you said "those 37 minutes were killing me"
Richter's 56 minues include applause and an encored finale movement. :)
Esta emblemática partitura de odisea realmente romántica rompe los grilletes del vil hastío. Y nos devuelve la santa fe en un crepúsculo coronado con valores supremos de vitalidad exacerbada.
Super pianiste !!
Thank you very much...I will NEVER do this mistake!!!
@tnsnamesoralong non,le sujet n'est pas difficile du tout!
une si belle oeuvre ne peut pas être figée dans une seule interprétation!
Chaque interprétation fameuse est un éclairage différent du même chef-d'oeuvre
No, the subject is not difficult ! A so beautiful work cannot be congealed in a single interpretation(performance)! Every famous interpretation(performance) is a lighting different from the same masterpiece
Why thank you kind sir.
Una peculiar interpretación !
A miracle
The beginning sounds like Udo Jürgens' "Merci, chérie" :-D
Really hateful that the Minuet is interrupted at the first few bars for advertising! Execrable!
Sincerament, no hi ha paraules per descriure aquesta peça. Hi ha música que et porta a un altre món i aquesta és una de les que ho fan. Ningú pot dir que Schubert no era un geni, perquè menteix
Ma che bella interpretazione! Il tocco di Radu Lupo è magnifico. Eppure io continuo a preferire Richter ...diverso.
you really are!!!
1.Wührer,
2.Alain Planès et Ránki Dezső
3.Maria Yudina,
4.Serkin , Kempff,Arrau
Imogene Cooper live in San Francisco
Up until the Menuetto I agree with all his musical choices. But starting at the Menuetto into the Allegretto he plays the piece like a Scherzo almost Presto until the end. I don’t agree with this choice, but so what that’s this very fine pianist’s interpretation. Which I don’t happen to agree with.
I'm thinking about learning this, half of it is sight readable even for me
I prefer this to Richter's interpretation 9 out of 10 times. not overly indulgent. passionate but transparent. just right.
Agreed, Herr Beethoven!
Just enjoy the interpretation as presented... All comments are so technical....
No, ALL comments are not "so technical". And does one not have the right to experience a recording in one's own way?
You should listen to Richter's version. It is more than 56 minutes. ;)
Is that the one punctuated by continuous audience coughing?
If you knew how to appreciate this music and your a pianist (So you claim) you wouldn't be making comments like this. Your not a pianist, your a "Piano player" and you don't know much about this kind of music.
What is it at 13:40 on the 4th row in the right hand after 3rd note? Isn't it a tremolo? But I didn't hear it.
No, it the "zigzag"-line with an "8" at it's beginning is just the sign to play the written notes one octave higher.
Thank you. But why is it marked by wavy line, while commonly it is marked by dashed line?
+Pourqouis You are right, usually it is. But I have seen this manner to mark it a few times, especially in elder editions. Probably they changed the norms to not mistake it for trills/tremolos;)
***** Thank you.
+Camill Erdin you're circumcised? It's healthy .. If you not, you must do it.
Et Sokolov????????????:) please check!
25:02 compare the theme to his Piano Trio op.100 first movement, second theme! Oo
Also Viennese waltzes .. No 6 ..
Schubert is master at borrowing his own themes and creating new amazing things out of them.
How wonderful, still prefer Richter on this one.
oooh i see what's you mean..you are so right!!pianist means i like this sonata and whatever belongs to classical music without any reservation,and..piano player means i don't like this sonata and i have my reservations for what is good in classical music...your criteria for wether someone's got his own taste or not sucks so much that makes you appear as a dumb.for your information i am a pianist.not a "piano player" in the way you mean it and stop being concerned for me not liking this sonata!!!
Rich interpretation of the 1st movement. But, IMO, I have still not yet heard a version that has enough testosterone and bravado for the octaves arpeggio sections. Think about it... Schubert wrote this piece about a month before his death, he *knew* he was going to die soon. These last three sonatas are immense, profound, deep expressions of his every emotion. When will somebody record an interpretation that shows his anguish, and not just finger exercises?
This was written in 1826, two years before Schubert's death and was not one of his last three sonatas, which are D 958-60.
Jamie Andrews , gee, you're right, he only had syphilis for 4 years at that point, and was miserably poor, with no friends, he must have been without any conflicting emotions inside him, happy as a schoolgirl. So everyone should go on playing his final sonatas in the most boring way, like a Hanon finger exercise.
Ho ho ho. Well your original comment was still wrong.
* facepalm * ... thank you for illustrating my point so perfectly.
I am the one who should be facepalming. Asides from your mistake of saying this was written a month before his death and was one of his last three sonatas (which was all my original reply was pointing out), you assert that these late sonatas of Schubert should be played with "testosterone and bravado", which tells me you do not understand Schubert. With the possible exception of the Wanderer Fantasy, Schubert is never to be played like this; his piano works are most always modest and intellectual, rather than extroverted. But especially in his final sonatas they should be played with an even more introspective and solemn attitude. I know of no composers whose works became angrier or more violent when they were approaching death, quite the contrary in fact. So your point that nobody portrays Schubert's anguish properly because they don't play with bravado is absurd. The notion that people play them like finger exercises is also absurd. Listen to Richter or Arrau if you haven't yet. Or why not even download the sheet music and try playing it yourself, if you think you have a perspective no one else has put forth? It's really not a difficult sonata to play, in fact I'm learning it myself.
I know...you don't have...
Listen to volodos and that will change your ratings
:) You are right. I watched it on Ashish Xiangyi Kumar's channel, it is absolutely amazing and perfect. If I'd make score-animation for this sonata today, I would choose Volodos' performance for first, because of its sound-engineering is perfect too. (But second one would be Ránki's performance, maybe)
It will certainly not. The first movement is entirely too slow, close to 19 minutes in length as opposed to the less than 17 minutes here, which move with an incomparable lilt and grace. The posting of Volodos which I listened to (by George Bost) prefaced with the observation that classic interpretations of this sonata run approximately 35 minutes in length. Volodos' is around 39 minutes, it just crawls along. I hope no one is going to give us the usual nonsense: slow = profound and poetic, it's just not so. The Ranki version which some people seem to like is far too four-square and straightforward, no tone coloring or rhythmic nuances whatsoever. Very un-Schubertian.
sleepy music
but you don't know me at all and you judge me that i don't know enough about classical music just because I DON'T LIKE THIS AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT ITS COMPLEXITY etc. CAUSE I DON'T SEE ANY!!!!!! for f__'s sake the fact that those 37 minutes were killing me doesn't make me uneducated about classic music!!!!! listen to yourself and stop being absurd...i didn't judge YOU for liking this so don't judge ME for not liking it!!! i am as free as you to leave a NEGATIVE comment.
Schubert...ok.-Great composer...ok.-Famous worlwide...ok---But those 37 minutes were killing me.I wanted to shoot myself suffering of dullness!!!......PLEASE Masters of the universe and youtube in here...forgive me for that...I'll never,ever do it again...I'm sooooooo sorry.From now on I will always love listening to dull pieces of the great composers without complaining at all..!!!...FORGIVE ME FOR BEING SUCH A BAAAAAD BOY.....
Couldn't agree more. These "superstar" classical sheet music robots just keep playing and ramming this stuff down the necks and ears of helpless concert going snobs in sold out concert halls because they can't hack it in the realm of improvised music. Praise G_D for Gabriela Montero, Rod Stewart, Ritchie Blackmore and Liberace.
....and Fazil Say who filled in for Lupu who cancelled his concert due to sickness.
Beautiful playing, but for me not the best, too much grey in first movement, the best in this Fantasia is Richter, that is magic and read in Schubert's heart, very good also Brendel in touch and sound, less poetic than Richter but beautiful as well. Schubert didn't write this Fantasia one month before to die but two years before and the question was non the dead, but to write "Great" like Beethoven but in a different way.
Richter's interpretation is not too slow for you?
I agree that is a border line playing, it should be considered too slow if made by another pianist, but not by Richter, it is like Ifigenia in Aulide Ouverture made by Furtwaengler, too slow in absolute but not if you can bear that tempo...
@@tnsnamesoralong Not for his power as pianist.
I think Richter's slow tempo works marvelously for the B-flat/D960, which carries a sense of motion with it so it works at a slow Andante rather than Molto Moderato, but for this G major it's just too slow. Feels static.
no no no....i'm just too sincere and cynic with everything without caressing butts or being slave to "big" names just because they're famous....good luck.
Lupu prouve qu'il sait faire des fff ...dans le Moderato et même ailleurs mais pas partout; dans le moderato, il joue même ff ou fff des f , ce qui lui enlève la possibilité de crescendi; ainsi le respect de la dynamique est parfois approximatif.
Le menuet est peut-être un peu lent. Mais le problème se situe dans l'Allegretto, qui se distingue par une platitude dynamique frustrante dans certains passages essentiels; ex: les ff de 33'36 et 34'17 sont joués à peine mf; voyez ce qu'en fait Richter ! Bref, n'écoutez surtout pas le moderato de Lupu après celui de Richter.
No taste
no.i'm just very sincere and not affraid to say that THIS SONATA SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is it.i know very well how to appreciate classical music and i am a pianist.but unfortunately for all of you,i'm NOT a suck up........