There's a new Cannonball record!
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- Опубліковано 28 жов 2021
- Ryan Levenson from @KLWTTS & his team just set the EV Cannonball Record!
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The truly incredible thing here is that if you ask Google how long it takes to drive from the Red Ball to Portofino, the answer is 42 hours. We just reached the point where it is possible to drive long distances in an EV as fast as the math says is possible in an ICE car.
You should ask Google how many lives you are putting at risk with your pointless stunt.
You should be in jail.
Love the future
@@tiberionblock1047 grow a pair
@@tiberionblock1047 cough, boomer.....
Math or map? The math says it's possible to make the drive in the 20s
Still want to see a Countach do a cannonball. Even if it isn't a record, it will be an awesome run.
It'd probably take a week or so with all the breakdowns
I dont even think he would get out of his own state without being noticed and ultimately pulled over. How far can one get in a fast flashy loud and most desirable sportscar vehicle.
@@diavoloucraino Exactly... If the machine can finish it, ill be amazed.
That would be the most uncomfortable trip ever.
Actually they are fairly reliable cars.
This is the nerdiest run ever. Respect
Lmao good one
if Jerry Smith did the Cannon Ball Run...
Lol facts
Rented car and wheels? Good story but nerdy weak
Nerdiest way to break the law I've ever heard of in my life🤣
I’ll admit, you had me excited for an outright record. I’m still waiting for a 23:xx, I know it’s possible. But I’m glad records like this and people like this exist. I’m happy that the craft of Cannonball still exists with EVs, and that people are starting to treat it like a proper speedrun. I’m really excited to see where this goes.
Once someone make an ev with batteries that can he swapped in a few minutes there will probably be an outright record
@@cheesecurd100s I was thinking the same thing. a 23.xx time won't be possible until we can drop charging times to be comparable to refueling a standard car.
All it takes is some way to get the car to take a charge while driving and then have a way to either mount or tow a gas powered generator as a range extender. I don’t know if it’s possible without blowing up the battery though…
@BuddyHandsome Absolutely. I regularly commute from NJ to CT and occasionally take the Cross Bronx Expressway, a 6 mile stretch of highway that is usually perpetually congested. Except for late March of 2020 (when the Cannonball record was set) when I set an unbeatable personal record of 5 minutes 50 seconds to cross, a blistering average speed of 59.45 mph. Usually it would take me 30-45 minutes minimum to transit the Cross Bronx.
@BuddyHandsome Bingo. There was a perfect storm of empty cities, clear highways, and police officers handling pandemic response and staying off the interstates.
"Yo can I borrow your Car and thrash it across the country, twice? Yeah, cool!."
Not to mention a brand new 100k model s lol
Why would it be trashed? As long as he doesn’t crash it, that few thousand miles will be just like any other few thousand miles.
@@juzoli driving over a hundred basically racing and running the battery down to nothing repeatedly is not a walk in the park for a car. He only told them he was driving to ny and back, not doing a time trial. I think they claim it doesn't hurt the battery to run it that low but I'm not so sure about that. Like everything it has a lifespan, and heavy duty use will shorten it. Not to mention every other drivetrain and suspension component. Theres a good reason why exotic car rental companies dont let you race their cars.
@@ctdieselnut How many times he drives down the battery? Less then 10 times? Not a lot. Over its lifetime it will happen a lot more with normal driving, while it is not even claimed to be damaging the car…
He DID tell the owner what he is doing. He was clear that it will be a fast drive, and they agreed on it, including a fair price for this.
Exotic car rentals will not allow you to race it because it often results in a crash, not because of the wear and tear.
I like all the less common cannonball records, would be cool to try a record for a car from before 1990 or something
Model T Cannomball record.
Sounds like a F1 race team talking about a 1 stop or 2 stop strategy for race weekends. Only thing missing is tire deterioration. Awesome story.
With 2023 Pirelli tyres, it does sounds exactly like F1
Last time I was this early, the Car Wizard's clients could be described like my ex-girlfriends: whole lotta crazy.
So not even a week ago?
Alex Roy literally seems like the most salty guy on earth. Each time he is mentioned, I think he is more and more of a tool.
And he wears creepy yellow aviator sunglasses like Jeffrey Dahmer. Somethings off about Alex Roy for sure
Your assessment is correct.
Look up definition of stroke. Yep, he’s the poster child.
Great story. Super clickbaity title tho
Yeah but he set his record in a beautiful e39 M5
But can he do the new york to michigan bottle exchange like Newman and Kramer. 😅🤣😂
How much faster do you think EVs can go?
I hope they all explode! And then gas motors make a big come back
Very fast
@@mikedisalvo1479 far gone the gas engines
Take a merc eqs
I think 40 hours is doable. But, given just how far traditional Cannonball has come, something tells me people aren’t going to stop until they push it under 36.
That's brilliant, congratulations guys, didn't even realise there was a EV record, but of course it's cannonball, Rj in Oz
Special record set aside for the kids to play with.
8:34 imagine the record time if other drivers kept right except to pass
I see this is a country wide problem. If I watch a vid of people driving fast on the autobahn people gtfo of the left lane in a hurry. Why cant everyone pick up on this?
@@ctdieselnut driver training in NA is insufficient. Improper lane usage is dangerous yet you only hear about speed being a problem here.
This is my number 1 pet peeve.. people sitting in the passing lane. Seriously drives me insane.. it results in accidents too, causing impatient people to lane jump unsafely.. Just sitting there going 65 while getting passed on the right by more than 5 cars. It’s absurd.. morons. Stsrt shooting their car with a paintball gun or something 😂😂😂
@@IAnonymous3 In Europe you can lose your license for improper lane usage. I wish I had a car I didn't care about so I could pit-maneuver cars blocking the left lane!
@@woahspaghetti6069 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Right !!!!!! Seriously man.. had to tell a lyft driver few weeks back, “gotta get outta this lane man you’re getting passed on the right”. Clueless morons….
My son was born in 2004 and he wasnt shown cartoons as a kid. He was shown Cannonball run and Bandit movies...
🤣🍺👍🇦🇺
Straya 👍🇦🇺
So crazy seeing at 8:47 times ramp the charger right by my house! I go there once a week or so to get Culver’s while my car charges!
I was hoping to hear about the recent motorcycle record. You should get him too.
Got me in the first half, I’m not gonna lie
I saw there was a new Motorcycle Canonball record. Idk if its been verified. But it sounds legit.
Kinda a clandestine effort too. Pretty cool.
I think it was a Yamaha FJR1300.
Yeah, the bikes up for sale now too.
I think electric attempts add some really interesting sets of complexities and benefits. Gotta go slow enough to save batteries so it is a bit more responsible of an attempt, gotta juggle charge stations, easier on your body because you get breaks during charging, countermeasures aren't as much of a factor, etc. Awesome job!
How do you rent tires ?
405 miles? Interesting. My Kia Forte GT Manual does 420 on a tank (on the highway, naturally). So that's certainly impressive for an EV.
My 2020 Wrx does around 320 miles a tank. The range in the S is very impressive
My truck gets 600miles to a tank
@@FishFind3000 we’re taking about a sedan. Also, does your truck fill up to 600 miles overnight, each night?
@@FishFind3000 Damn, that extended tank is pretty handy lol
@@thegirthquake8574 My Passat does 700 miles a tank, holds 70 litres or around 18.5 gallons, I do drive agressively, I could get advertised 737 miles or higher than the advertised gas mileage with "safe driving", sorry but in no way EV's are the future, Toyota Mirai in the other hand is getting more and more interesting to me, hydrogen fuel-cell is the way to go
ok maybe that's some of your secrets..but did you figure out the optimum speed to drive if you are stopping only at V3 superchargers?
it feels like with drag increasing and range decreasing, if you pass a certain speed, you're losing more time during charging stops than you are saving by driving faster ?
You are correct certainly there is a optimum point of speed vs charge, tesla with all their data must allready know. For us its difficult to obtain enough data to find the perfect speed.
Also the charging capabilities are the most important factor for EV long-distance driving. 250 kW is good (1000 km/h) but there are now 360 kW but not even Porsche taycan can utilize more than 260 kW...yet. the first car than can charge at 350+ kW for more than a few minutes will take the record.
The best would be to ad and modify the battery system to use 2 different chargers simultaneously basically doubling up the battery packs much like the extra gas tanks but much less convenient. That way 2 chargers if cables long enough park in between get 250*2= 500 kW then it starts to get real interesting.
I wonder how much time you’d make up by stripping the interior (weight)
Kyle from out of spec in the Porsche also had Porsche engineers that tuned the car specifically for this run. They also had spotters to make sure all of the charging stations would work ahead of their arrival.
With the price of tires being about 1200 mounted and balanced and finding some rims around 800 for a set what are you saving renting and who would rent wheel and rims
why would he keep the wheels and rims, I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a use for them
@@stratis722 Keep them for when his own new Tesla is finally delivered, so he can make another run in that one.
The Mercedes EQS AMG with have something to say about this 😉😂
Do you have to start in NY or can you do it backwards
How long has P440CPJ license plate been in the background?
just noticed that now good catch
I’ve heard the motorcycle record was broken too. Future episode?
Holy shit I thought that was Paul Walker in the thumbnail 😂
Till you get the closeup and bam what a forehead
Maul palker
I thought it was Paul Walker in the thumbnail 😭😭😭 need to put on my glasses
3:33 Is that Mandarin Copper I had on my Ford Mach Audio Focus?
What if you had 10 aerodynamic battery trailers at planned intervals along the route and the only time you stopped was to swap trailers and do a wee?
That's a neat idea.
I'm excited for the electrified future though I'm still gonna keep my ICE cars.
This is a stupid question, but could you do better if you made strategic roll on ( pull on and park on) mobile charging stations?
I'm moving from SF to NYC. Gotta visit Redball in the spring n make the drive! ❤️😈
Is it really a cannonball if the fuel stops are long enough to take a nap? Fatigue is the boss fight of cannonball.
That's like asking if hiking is difficult because its not sprinting.
@@theguythatcouldfly Safe to assume you’ve never done a cannonball
No. The best EV run is almost double a car. Which makes it double as lame.
It's not road cycling. The real enemy is police and traffic; fatigue? you can always swap drivers like in any endurance race.
@@shikamaru281281 double a car would be 51 hours, its already 10 hrs lower than that, and 10 hrs faster than my record in 2017. Soon EV times will slip down into the 30s...
Electric record stop 16 times for 20 minutes
Gas record fuel twice for 30 seconds
30 seconds? What gas pump you using bro
@@jordanhart9441 yea is a slight exaggeration
I would like to know what the range would be at a steady 93 mph
Epic wiki fail on this one. Some graphs would be super helpful. No wonder the dude doesn't work at tesla any longer. Proved something but not really. Techno nerds disappoint
For a moment there, I thought that was Paul Walker on the thumbnail. xD
The fact that it beat a Taycan brings joy to the auto world. Next up, Plaid.
And this is literally the definition of going under the radar
Literally! Props to the entire team that made this happen🔥
I once drove from seattle to southern ca in 18 hours. It was riveting and the nap in a hotel with cable tv was screamingly good
4:57 just askin was that really not plaid or have they started delivering long range. because now when i did looked ordering page for us you cant get long range until june 2022 when you can get plaid in decenmber.
Nicely done, Ryan. I was wondering when someone would do a Cannonball in a new S
I get on my soapbox about this on any video about EVs. We need a charging standard!!! This is not going to work if we have a patchwork of charging stations that only work with a particular manufacturer. ICE vehicles all have standardized fuel ports to enable them to utilize ANY fuel station in the country (possibly the world, I think they use the same standard everywhere). We NEED that for EV's.
Tesla is the only one that's manufacture locked. From here on out basically everything else in the US will be CSS. Newer Tesls can charge via VSS with an adapter (analogous to Apple Lightning with USB-C).
So what you really need is more third party chargers.
We've had a charging standard for a long time. Only Tesla doesn't follow it. Any other EV will charge with CCS. Some EVs and PHEVs older than around 2017 will have CHAdeMO, but I have never seen a charging station that didn't have CCS and CHAdeMO. PHEVs generally can't DC fast charge, so they have the top part of the CCS plug only. This part is known as J1772, which both Tesla and everyone else support. Though you will not be charging a PHEV on a road trip, but rather only at a place like a mall which you'd expect to be at for a couple hours.
In Europe, Tesla is forced to use CCS like everyone else is, though only Teslas can access the Supercharger network, just like here.
That said, there are several different sizes of fuel nozzles even in the US, and they're not generally compatible. A semi truck diesel nozzle will not fit in a passenger vehicle diesel filler. A gasoline nozzle will fit in most diesel fillers, though. And a passenger diesel nozzle doesn't fit in a gasoline filler most of the time. Weird fuels like E85 and >93 octane also frequently use a different size nozzle, meaning that some cars that take E85 have to have an adapter so the E85 nozzle will insert. Some older cars and motorcycles aren't compatible with "enhanced vapor recovery" nozzles as used in California and other states and require the user to hold the nozzle just right to get it to pump.
I would say that EV charging and gas station fueling standards are just about as universal. Think about Teslas as diesels in that analogy.
Try with Lucid Air, 520 mile range!
Dude saying hi from Mission n Geneva!
I wonder what the "hyper EV cars" like the Rimac and Evija could do. Tires and charging infrastructure will probably negate any aero/rolling mass advantage.
Evija would be horrible as it's not designed for long distance. Rimac would be about the same Taycan 4S. Which is way faster than you realistically want to do.
The real problem would be the charging network. Those 3rd party charging stations are garbage.
@@keanhsu-official Exactly, seems on purpose.
EVs are a bit upside down in a sense, that larger battery packs give you both more power, and more range. So the fastest cars go the furthest.
(Not exactly, but that’s the general trend)
Wait you can use auto pilot for a speed run? Wtf
Wait that’s illegal
This guy looks like Paul Walker. When i saw him next to a tesla i tripped the f#c! out.
Congratz 🥳
Ah, you got me excited Ed
it'll take expansion of fast charging infrastructure to beat this time. it'll happen, but this is an awesome record have held at this time.
Dude!! I want to beat your record! Swing by in the spring!!!
Are there any Crotchrocket Cannonball records (EV Bikes too)?
There are motorcycle records (VINWiki has a recent video on the subject), but I don't know if anyone's taken an electric bike for the run...yet.
I would love to do a cannonball run attempt. Those gas prices tho for me is what kills it.
I'd be half tempted to make a run in my old C10 set up a big tank in the back cause most people don't expect a old truck to be moving fast, plus I'd get to open her up for real
How do u even sign up to run one?
@@aneto2794 You don't sign up. You go do your run, make sure to accurately record everything or your run is null and void(see solo mustang guy). Prove you did it and get added to the list.
@@freighter1097 oh good to know
As long as EVs can one day get somewhat close to the fueling time of a gas or diesel vehicle, I wouldn't mind. But I'll still have gas and diesel vehicles. Unless both fuels are banned in the US, which I extremely doubt.
So just so I get this right. The cannonball EV record has been set not the overall record?
Yes.
Somebody needs to do a run in a R1T
I've got an ambition in life to attempt it. I know exactly what I'd build.
Vw Lupo. Pd130 1.9Tdi Swapped with a long ratio FSM fabia Box.
15" audi pepper pots (lightest 15" oem vw wheels) 60 profile tyre. 260Bhp should be enough so you don't spend ridiculous on cams and Injectors.
Huge fuel cell in the boot that refills the original tank.
Fully stripped.
Will weigh next to nothing, box will top out at around 170 mph.
Will cost max £6-7 Gbp to build.
Is there a diesel record for Cannonball????
a lightweight lupo sounds terrifying at 170
@@williamw3559 a friend of mine has a 300+ Bhp diesel lupo. Would be amazing for long distance at speed I would of thought. Scary yes but surely we'll suited with lightness big power, diesel economy and range on its side.
@@CommerEileen yeah tuned engine for 24h+ at WOT idk about that, bmw 550d/340d or Panamera diesel would be better choice for high speed stability and comfort
@@kayak1995 the Vw Pd130/50 is a pretty solid unit.
Even if your sitting at 3-4k for long periods of time it will last. The major problems come when you push the internals past 300 bhp.
250-260 is a safe limit for it.
Water meth is also a good idea if you have the bottle in the front where it an be topped up whilst driving but then I'd say its not essential.
@@kayak1995 plus a 530d or a panamera will use more fuel for more cylinders. A light car at 3k rpm over 4 cylinders will use less than a heavy bmw at 3k rpm with 6 cylinders to feed.
Elon: Hold my beer *adds extra battery cells to a tesla and drives across country within 21 hours
Not possible
Nice job Ryan!
I been thinking about this for awhile EV our fast and love mine
Was waiting for Tesla's Cannonball record for a long time
Seems to take a little bit of the fun out of it no? Haha, awesome job though👍🏾
Not just a little, a lot. Tesla has proved that being fast isnt everything. Theyre boring af.
2:04 Shift the gear on the touch screen?
New Tesla's have the park drive reverse etc all digital now from I've heard ,no shifter
"Co-pilot?" This guy has let the yoke get to his head.
Awesome, congratulations.
Range anxiety must have hit hard at some points and reverse range anxiety as well (stressing on getting away from the charger as fast as possible with just enough charge to get to the next.
I was thinking modifications that could help increase efficiency/reduce charging time.
-slam the car
-perfectly flat undercarriage (I know it's almost flat stock but there still a bit that can be done and it's 100% invisible)
-wheel covers
-remove seats or any other weight saving
-narrower wheels/fuel efficient tires
then of course the single thing that would unlock completely next level record, would be battery swaps...but that's a huge thing to setup, you need a whole crew, lots of money...
Bravo guys! Bravo.
Brilliant! …..Some day the CBall will be just like the 405 in LA, bumper to bumper, coast to coast………
Trying for a round trip cannonball record only makes sense if you live near LA OR NYC. Electric cars are definitely going to be the average commuter car in another 10-20 years as long as battery advancements continue. I believe it will be at least 50 years for gas powered cars to be somewhat rare to see people using them as a daily driver. The best thing about the Cannonball is that it is only limited to who wants to try for the record, any vehicle you want to try it with is fine & there isn't any sanctioning body requiring you to get inspected, have special licenses to compete like most races require.
Congrats on setting the Cannonball record again. You really planned the trip well. It makes me feel better about electric vehicles. I was afraid 10 or 12 hour drives would be too much for them but that also depends on where you are going. When i travel lomd distances i go through the mountains of New Mexico, Texas, Oklahoma and Arkansas. I do not think there are many charging stations between Las Cruces and Amarillo, going up US 54.
Yeah, you're definitely still going to have to plan out your route in advance, to maximize your chances of finding ANY charging stations. That's still the biggest problems with EVs at the moment: not the cars themselves, but the infrastructure around them.
That said, if more gas stations put charging stations up in the corner of their lots...and why not? Pretty sure they already have 240v (and possibly even 480v three-phase!) for their pumps...
The British boys from Top Gear need to take this on or should i say grand tour
Like to see what the ev mustang will do
its wild how good the battery tech is getting very quickly. i think most people still think a road trip in an ev means 30 minute to an hour stop times, but this guy was only stopped 16 minutes at a time. ill always love a good analog experience, but theres something incredible about putting your foot down and silently pulling a G in something thats big and comfortable and will go 100k miles with no maintenance aside from tires.
You think so? What about suspension? Those are heavy cars.
It's still 30 minutes to an hour stop times if you think of them like filling up your gas car. EV roadtripping is just different, and if you don't own one, and don't have cheap charging at home, you don't really get it.
I know I didn't until we got one. It's not filling up the tank, the goal is just charge it up enough to get home or to your hotel where you have low speed charging. That's the only place you fill it up past ~60%.
I’m excited to see a Cannonball record beat using predominantly Autopilot
What you need is a van running in front that you can draft behind!
If we go by Forza standards that invalidates the lap time 🤣🤣🤣
Way to go!
Doug is the kind of guy to… wait, wrong channel
You rented tyres......????
Is it just me or is the camera footage looking a bit fuzzy like someone cleaned the lense with a wet paper towel
A bit out of text ,but the new tesla steering wheel is horrid
coming from a person who never tried it
I looked at the video preview and thought "they got Seb on VinWiki?"
No seb
*sad F1 noises*
So how fast is estimate for a cyber truck with a generator in the back 🤔
Generator go brrr 😀
Very bad idea, big generator required to power a Cybertruck is really not meant to be operating while moving. Unless you use something exotic like Jet Airliner Auxiliary Power Unit.
Is there a cannonball from Florida to Washington?
Someone will soon crush this record in the Lucid.
Great story. The unspoken cost of EVs though is that our current power grid cannot handle an EV in every driveway. Trillions to spend for infrastructure improvements.
i have a lot of overseas friends that are shocked how bad our infrastructure is, in regards to the electrical grid. we cant even keep up with heaters or air conditioners properly, how are we to keep up with added demand? well, until we put the time and money into it, we will be far behind the rest of the developed world. again.
Seeing as hyperinflation is taking hold, change that “trillions” to “trillions of quadrillions”.
There were similar challenges with the mass adoption of air conditioners, but our utilities were mostly able to cope with that. So I have confidence that in the next couple decades as EVs are adopted (despite some growing pains) the grid will be able to support the EVs.
Full conversion to EV's would require about a 30% increase in grid capacity. Very doable over a decade. The US spends about a trillion dollars a year on petroleum fuels for motor vehicles. As that money starts to transition over to the grid there would be plenty of money to support this shift.
@@nicknick9081
9:48 Here's hoping the EPA doesn't make them outright illegal
Well considering somebody converted a Tesla into a pickup truck, I could see the potential of putting a 3000 to 4000 kilowatt Recreational Vehicle generator in the back for charging/supplementing the batteries during the run instead of having to find places to stop and charge as often.
The only reason I say using a one that's converted into a pickup truck was because you don't want a running diesel or gasoline generator in the passenger compartment or even the trunk necessarily unless you had a guaranteed reliable way for it to get cooling airflow and avoid exhaust gasses from getting the cabin.
I was thinking about that and did some math on it. I don't remember the numbers exactly, but the moral of the story was a generator small enough to fit in a short pickup bed wont make a big enough difference to be worth while. As in, a 10 kw generator only adds a few miles charge per hr. You're underestimating just how much power the charger stations put out to charge quickly. It's a lot. Unless you get some monster heavy diesel genset it doesn't make sense, and then theres still a tradeoff of all the extra weight.
Ps, a kilowatt is 1000 watts. Most small portable gas ones you see are at most 10kw. Not 4000 kw like you said, which would be 4 million watts lol.
Someone should have an EV with a small trailer that has the battery pack from another EV in it as a range extender so you have double battery life and you can switch to using that battery pack when your cars range gets low.
I was thinking a generator but unsure if you could charge while driving without causing battery damage.
@@alabama_dawg7396 you can't charge quick enough with a generator for it to matter
No problem dude. Trailer battery would be on an A/B switch. I used to have an awesome Radio Shack nearby and we could have wired it up!
So there's a 20 hour time difference between EV's and gas vehicles?
Yes this is true. Will be cool to watch over the decade the EV record fall over and over.
Gas is like 26 hrs
There is a ~17 hour difference between the fastest EV and fastest ICE cannonball runs. ( I think its actually like closer to like 16 hours and 40ish minutes)
Amazingly if you even go back to like the 2006 ICE record and compare this run and that one the difference is only 11 hours. The ICE record has improved a lot since then with tons of planning and modifying of vehicles. Who knows how much the EV record can drop with efficiency improvements or other stuff people haven't even thought of yet.
It's this simple... my Ford Mondeo ST220 which is a 3 liter V6 with six speed can do a 155MPH!... You would figure a Tesla with so much more torque could at least 200MPH.
comes down to gearing
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Electronically limited
10:45 average 15 minute stops - targeted 5-10% at arrival
13:40 record 42 hrs
On my bike me and my two brothers are at 39 hours and some change
Although EV is a separate category I feel like using Auto Pilot is an asterix in itself aswell .
It's just lane centering and TACC. Most cars over $40k come with those features, at least as optional. After seeing the insane mods some of the cannonballers have done, like nigh vision cameras, etc, it doesn't seem that extreme.
Ugh, I was literally planning to break Kyle's ev record. Lol oh well, congrats guys.
Elon watching this like 👁👄👁
Can we have a 1.5 million AMA with Christopher Michaels??