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Awesome story! I'm also Canadian and have been to Thailand 4 times between 2011-2015 before being diagnosed with terminal cancer and can say Thailand is an amazing place with beautiful people.. it too changed my life and perspective... I wish I could go back again but my treatment prevents me from doing so .. I miss Koh Phangan and Thailand 7/11's !!!!!!
I stayed on Koh Phangan for three months about 15 years ago. It was life changing for me too. moto sigh, Song Kran, snorkeling at Kho Ma, Sat nights out for supper in Tong Sala and then to Haad Rin for Full moon Party. Temple sauna at Wat Po. Yoga and beach walks at Haad yai. Best time of my life. Hope you get to make it back. 👍🏼
@@MrBugPop that's soo awesome! I too snorkeled at Koh Ma (got stung by a jelly fish on my lip lol ) and been to Thong Sala, Bottle Beach and Haad Salad .. I also went to the Half Moon party twice which was amazing .. the place i truly loved was Thong Nai Pan where I spent most of my time during the 4 times I visited Thailand.. thanks for sharing !
His comments about being in Thai prison was the best thing that happened to him are quite relatable. Sometimes we need a big wake up call in life to really see what we have and appreciate things more.
Seriously, though... there is a MASSIVE difference between overstaying a visa and a few nights in detention, and "Thai prison"... sorry, but NOBODY in their right maind makes that reflection after having been in an actual prison. It's bullshit. When you are puking every day from filthy food, losing wieght, people start marking you for rape and you decide to kill yourself... THEN you will have a clue what it feels like. You will not sleep for months after getting out. You will have PTST. Sorry, but it was the lowest point in my life, and to call Thai Prisoon a "learning experience" or "the best thing" that could have happen is just delusional.
Awesome interview Dan. You let people talk, unlike many "interviewers" 💪... Love the Canadians attitude toward life too... WISH he could provide more details... But I "get it" that there could be repercussions as he wants to continue to stay in Thailand too...
Some real surprises in this story. I really appreciate hearing his story. All of the worst things that have happened to me in life have ended up having a positive side that ultimately outweighed the negative. Nonetheless, I don't want to repeat any of them. I expect to be in Thailand a couple weeks from now. I hope to avoid jail.
when i travel 20 years ago i just went to the nearest boarder and hop out and back same day but usually spend a night at another boarder country and come back .
Dan your my idol I finally medically retired got my social security now I’m waiting on my pension from my union I just turned 50 and I’m going to travel and live as cheap as possible and enjoy the rest of my life you guys rock keep inspiring people to enjoy life because from what I can see not to many live long enough to make it to retirement and the ones that do die shortly after.
Canadian here. I also spent time in a maximum security prison in Thailand. It wasn't any fun. I can't believe they jailed you over this, lucky you were there a short time. Glad to see you are home.
It was hilarious how the Canadian embassy tried to get him a deal on a plane ticket and thereby extend his jail time by 2 weeks. That is such a huge fail. I guess it worked out for him though.
@@fidelbarcena4495 I believe the embassy either gave his payment info to the airline or he has to pay the embassy back for the airline ticket purchase. He cannot personally buy tickets as he is in jail and has no access to phone or internet.
@@Hardwaregeekx Police there buy air tickets for deported ones at high prices to get their comision. So,It means you could be at prision as long as you have not air ticket.Nice....
I can relate to what he says about life in perspective, I had NDE due to motorcycle accident in Thailand, then started to look into Buddhism and religion, that led onto Ayahuasca and DMT and mushrooms, think that did more for me that being in a prison.
You know I love you guys. I love your videos I love your energy and your approach to everything. This is a great interview really enjoy watching it. I happen to be sitting in Cebu with my US Green card resident Filipina (and traveling the world and came here to visit family) we are considering moving to Thailand so this is particularly interesting. Thank you for sharing this and all your other videos which I am watching all the relevant data very carefully. Thanks for being a trusted source.
Why not? You get to see things most people don't get to see. LMFAO Yes, it was not really worth it. But no matter what you have to make the best of any situation and learn from it. I would never want to do it again. But with that said, I am happy to have had that experience in life. No point in being bitter or resentful about it. That accomplishes nothing. Thailand is a beautiful and wonderful country that I now call home.
Wow, another great interview! I didn't catch this gentleman's name if he said but I'm glad all turned out okay! 30 lbs is a really serious in such a short time.
Very profound dialogue Dan, thanks! At 11:00 what Eric and you relate really resonated with my experience of 15 years of working in the oilfields of Alaska. and what some of the friends I worked with who spent years in prison, or in war, and how they compared our lives in corporate slavery as was worse than a prison sentence, because our working sentence was self-inflicted. Dan, your story of loosing everything also reminded of the Greek parable of 'The Lotus Eaters' and had to question if "paradise" is a notion, a state of mind, an illusion or something tangible? I suppose when much of one's life is spent in servitude to something like the proverbial Lotus Tree, perhaps paradise is simply escaping the prison of the Lotus Tree and discovering life as sovereign from it: Wikipedia - The Lotus Eaters In Greek mythology, the lotus-eaters (Greek: λωτοφάγοι, transit. lōtophágoi) were a race of people living on an island dominated by the lotus tree, a plant whose botanical identity is uncertain. The lotus fruits and flowers were the primary food of the island and were a narcotic, causing the inhabitants to sleep in peaceful apathy. After they ate the lotus, they would forget their home and loved ones, and only long to stay with their fellow lotus-eaters. Those who ate the plant never cared to report, nor return. Figuratively, 'lotus-eater' denotes "a person who spends their time indulging in pleasure and luxury rather than dealing with practical concerns"
I think is a 90 days report to the immigration not 60 days. The fine is 2000bahts for not reporting but not exceeding 20000 bahts and that subject to the officer who interviews you.
At 2:10 at airport immigration he states the fine is 20,000 Baht. At 3:34 from the Thai-English jail interpreter he states the fine is 2,000 Baht. The Canadian interviewee did not mention anything about why the fine was reduced by 18,000 Baht. Perhaps it was the immigration officer's discretion as "Theeranan Jitmanee" said. But then that begs the question, why would the Thai court reduce it?
@@stuartm5745 This is Eric from the interview. The fine at the time fr ovstay was 20,000. I wa stold when I went to court that is I plead guilty the fine would be reduce to 2,000. If I had tried to fight it, it would remain at 20,000 and would have taken possibly months to go through tthe court.. But I had no argument other than stupidity.
You told them it was a scam when they asked for 20,000 baht which is why they sent you to a police station. You made them lose face and disrespected them. If you had of paid the 20,000 at the airport, they would have let you go. The fine for not reporting every 90 days is 2,000 baht.
why pay 20,000 baht if you owe 2,000. Was the person pocketing 18,000? The judge ordered/accepted a 2000 baht fine. Where was the 16000 going from the original person
This is Eric from the interview. The laws now are different than what you state. I also did not disrespect them. I have negotiated the price of a fine many times in Thailand. It is business not disrespect.
@@sake24Always probably not.. 98% is likely depending on how deep your pockets are. Children are exploited and victimized and very little is done to protect them. Please don't mention the underfunded to task force
@@cluggyahoo NOT at all! I consider them sophisticated and cultured. Likewise, the opposite is true for them. The British and Canadians have the courage to all kind of wars. I actually wish the British were in control of the US, we would be a better country. You never hear of school shootings like you do in the US.
Something similar happened to me in China. I was on a yearly work visa and I had put in the form for my visa to be extended like I did every year. Normally I was on time, but a holiday was coming up and I didn't know that government departments and even certain police departments closed down for a two week holiday. This made my visa late for the processing, so my visa ended by the time they returned from their holiday. I wasn't asked to pay anything. I had to sit in the back room office of my local police station everyday from 9 to 5 while my visa was being processed. I wasn't in a cell, I had to sit in their office next to a desk while they worked. They were very friendly and made me cups of tea, some even tried to chat with me a little. I was allowed to go out for lunch to a restaurant from 12 to 1pm. It was interesting watching them work. Apparently they had some new software on their computers and none of them could figure out how to use it, it was funny. I was allowed to go home after 5pm and come back the next day at 9am. They told me that someone from the British embassy would come to see me. For the first few days I was expecting them to arrive but they never came. One of the officers told me a little later that the person from the British embassy was now not coming. I couldn't understand why not, so they never came and I was just left there. I had the feeling that they couldn't be bothered and felt quite upset with them. Although I had no money to pay, I still lost two weeks money by not working. Like I said, they were very friendly to me and I felt quite at home in their office watching them work..
Interesting video. However.... There is no "60 day check in" for any type of visa... Not now and not in 2015. There is a requirement to report your whereabouts every 90 days. So right there the veracity of this story... Well... It just doesn't add up. Prison... For what exactly? "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story "
There has been a 90 day check in even back in 2015. You had to go to Immigration and verify your address. I know numerous people ( all expats) who did that. Back in 2017/2018, they changed from physical check In to online.
This is Eric from the interview. The laws have changed since then. I also believe there is no longer a 180 day tourist visa as there was then. The requirement was to check in every 60 days.
I am aware that you obviously know more than the Thai government and TAT about Thai visas. So, I won't bother wasting my time to introduce you to reality. But, in the off chance you dare to stop by and visit with some money in your pocket. I would truly love to relieve you of some money on a wager about who is correct in this matter. I sincerely hope to see soon. 555 If you want to ask the meaning of 555, feel free. :-) Also, please watch the video if you don't understand why I was in prison. Please, please, please come with large amounts of money you are willing to wager on your wisdom. PLEASE! :-)
Prison for not “checking in” at immigration office…? I am not completely convinced. Usually, in those cases in Thailand, you are detained at the immigration point, pay a fine and off you go (out of the country). Perhaps….any other “side” in that story ?
He had a multi entry tourist visa allowing 60 days each entry. He overstayed his 60 day entry by more than 40 days ($500 baht per day up to 20,000 baht). The amazing thing is even after all this he has no clue about the visa rules that he ran afoul of. He was arrested by being in the country illegally and refusing to pay the fine which is known and published, not for missing a 60 day check in which does not exist.
In the video he explains that he was detained under the old rules in 2015. He also mentioned the 500 Baht per day rule that you mention. Sorry about any confusion. Just make sure you know the rules for the type of visa you get and follow them.
@Viperine agreed - Even before 2015 so many people messed up on checking in every 60-90 days and they got a basic fine, never heard of anyone being imprisoned like this. Something not right to this guy's story. Even I messed up pre-2015 once and I had to pay a fine at the airport and move on.
@@tonray9395 Exactly what I was thinking as well. He seems to still have no clue about why he was in "a Thai Prison". The Prison was actually the Immigration Detention Center, so not really what most people would understand as a "Thai Prison"...
I also saw another YTer who travels round the word and realized he had overstated his visa in Kenya. He assumed he got a 45 day visas when he actually got a 30 day visa. He didn't bother to check the visa because he thought he applied for a 45 day visa. The immigration official told him he had to pay a $100 fine and he was pissed. He paid it. I think it is better to pay the fine than stay a detention center.
I would pay the fine too. But he mentions in the video that the official wanted 20k baht fine which is over $500 now so he thought it was a scam. But he laos explains the new fine in the video.
I'm Canadian and have spent 1 year in Thailand. I got threatened to be taken to the detention center by immigration in Bangkok if I didn't show them proof of a flight leaving the country within 24 hours. Thankfully I was able to find a flight that had a seat for me and leave before my 24 hour time limit was up or else I more than likely would of ended up at the same place as this man was in. That's pretty crazy to hear that being in a Thai Prison was the best thing that ever happened to him. It would be good to know more details about what all went on inside the prison while he was there but I completely understand why he chose not to share this information. Thanks for the video!
In the 60s I was involved with the Thai military for extended periods and got to know the Thai people very well. I was young and they were young, I was supposed to be guiding/teaching them to use more advanced airplanes. But I believe I learned more from them than they learned from me. Thru association, they taught me so much, they taught without saying a single word, they taught by example. I made real life friendships with these amazing people. These Thai Air Force and other military special forces looked forward to going to the Buddhist Temple for a period of weeks. I think it may have been similar to Eric's 3 weeks in jail. They would live at the Temple completely isolated from the society and learn to live on only the essentials with the Monks. 3 weeks like this, probably clears the body and mind of all the junk of everyday life.
This is Eric from the interview. I trued to negotiate the fine down because I thought it was a scam. Once I tred that I was soon in a cell and my flight had left.
Too many inconsistencies and holes in this guy's story. No such thing as 60 day check in. What he had was a 6 month multi entry visa with each entry granting a 60 day permission of stay. After 60 days you must leave the country, so he was in the country illegally and the overstay fine is 500 per day up to a maximum fine of 20,000 baht, which means he had overstayed by at least 40 days.
In the video he explains that he was detained under the old rules in 2015. He also mentioned the 500 Baht per day rule that you mention. Sorry about any confusion. Just make sure you know the rules for the type of visa you get and follow them.
No... OP on this reply is right. Terms haven't changed that much. A multi entry visa around 2015 gave 60 days and the primary option was the visa run to get the exit/entry stamp.
Hello Louis Miller, All of our videos have a webpage that has the information discussed in that video so you don't have to take notes. The link to that web page for this video is the first link in the description below this video. In case you don't know how to find the link, here is a UA-cam video teaching how: ua-cam.com/video/p4bP4xd7J4s/v-deo.html Most of our videos have multiple links to important information that will help you save time and money. It is our way of thanking you for watching our videos. So, ... thank you, Dan
@@VagabondAwake I know how to find links underneath UA-cam videos, but I'm glad you were able to share the level of sophistication your viewers have. I clicked on the link and it was the same information from the video. Well, the Canadian gentleman didn't seem to want to explain things clearly in the video. It looks like the immigration officer gave him a fine of 20,000 baht, before exiting, which sounds legitimate, for $600 for not checking in, and his incarceration was a result of the refusal to pay the fine. But, I was hoping for something in writing about the rules for the visa and if they spell out penalties. I'm just a normal shmuck, but if he is a business owner, he should be more used to these sorts of formalities.
I never thought I could live on the money I get which is around 300 dollar a month but I do. Like being in that prison you just have to do it or else, it taught this guy to appreciate the little things. I know people who get half of what I get and they are happy, I know people who get ten times what I get and they are sad bastards. I am pretty happy to be alive and well at 68, everyday is a gift.
It is very possible to live in Thailand cheaply and well. It all depends on the mindset. The majority of expats make zero effort to adapt in anyway. They live in a bubble completely separate from the Thais and spend thousands a month and most look miserable.
I forgot to do my 90 day check in once I think it was about a month late last year and I’am on a yearly retirement visa in Thailand, went to the immigration office I just had to pay a 2,000baht fine, no dramas I payed it of course and have had no repercussions 😊. Great that in the end he had a positive outcome from the experience!
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We are thinking of staying in Thailand on an education visa. It looks beautiful and is decently priced for us. However the flights are around $4000 per person coming from Canada and that negates the lower cost of living. Is there a flight path and/or carrier you have found to be decently priced?
This is Eric from the interview. I have never been arrested in the Philippines. I have been to a few other countries before but never arrested in any of them.
Wow great story it almost happened to me here in the Philippines overstayed payed big fine thank God I didn't make time in jail, can wait to go back to Canada this is a wake up call for all of us, get your Visa up to date so no problems may arise! Peace be safe everybody👍
Wow. This guy has such a positive outlook about what happened. Quite amazing. Most would be bitter or complain about their treatment. At least it sounds like the IDC is not as severe as the Thai prisons. The prisons you're with the hatdcore criminals for very violent crimes. Still jail or prison is no vacation
In the US, they just give you a court date and let you go on with your vacation until that day. They do not hold you in a cell. And if you decide to leave the country right before your court date, they are all too pleased and your case is closed. They are currently millions of 'overstay' visas in the US. I believe I read that over one million overstays from India itself. They came over with student visas and never returned back to India. In fact, parents in India take out a loan to send their kids to the US so that they stay there and get US citizenship. In the US, it is estimated that there are over 20 million undocumented people, the last time i read. It would be impossible to hold them all in a detention center. However, a large majority of countries are very strict and operate just like Thailand. I was even shocked to read that India arrested Ukrainians for overstaying their visas in India while the war is going on now. So, be very careful, when you go to another country. Do not assume they operate like the US or your country.
@@VagabondAwake You are right I had it wrong, I just didn't think the number was that high. I got this off a quick Google search, which mentions two sources. "The Pew Research Center, which tracks this data, reports that there were 5,00,000 unauthorised immigrants from India living in the US in 2014, up from 3,50,000 in 2009 - a 43% increase. However, the Migration Policy Institute, a NGO based in Washington DC, estimates that the number of undocumented Indians in the US might be much lower, at around 2,67,000.".. Nobody seems to know what the right number is?? I believe immigration is a good thing. Unfortunately the system is broken. And so i was pointing out that, under the current system, people who don't play by the rules, get rewarded, which is very, very, unfair. And a talented person living in a poor under developed country who plays by the rules will not get it. I would like to believe that we are about fairness in this country....
How did you find this guy and why was he in prison for overstay can you just pay a fine or was it a great amount of overstay? I believe in the Philippines they just have you pay the phone unless it goes on for years they might be for you.
180 day visa, and you have to check in every 60 days. When I was in Russia, staying in a girl´s appt, you had to check in every 14 days, only the office was never open. So when I had to leave, I thought I am screwed, but the system was so corrupt, some hotel stamped me as being there the whole time...
It's every 90 days not 60 days. It can be done on line. It's not a big deal not doing it, usually a 2000 baht fine. More going on here than we are being told I think.
I'm not gonna mention what country, but when I was at the airport I didn't "have to" , but I had to pay a fee in currency to one of the officers upon arriving for what my guide described as a tip. And It definitely wasn't someone handling my baggage. To me the moral of the video is pay the officer and maybe question it later.
Be careful who you tell. The USA has a law that it is unlawful to bribe government officials in foreign countries. The law was meant to stop large US corporations from getting monopolies overseas by bribing foreign government officials but the law does not apply only to corporations. It prohibits any bribing any foreign government officials.
@@VagabondAwake I was with a national of that country, and it seemed to be a routine process? I just don't remember what it was about, and guess it had to do with getting stamped, and on our way?
It is very uncommon and rare for foreigners to do prison time in Thailand for such a short overstay of his visa. To be honest something is not clear or correct about his story. Foreigners many of those criminals who entered the country have hidden here for decades were held a short time and then later deported and given a Black Stamp in their passports so they could never enter again. I was expecting to hear the story of a real criminal not some guy who it seems made an honest mistake and was made an example of for some very odd reason.
thank you, someone else is thinking the same thing as me. This guys story doesn't add up, I've never heard of anyone going through this for not doing a 90day report. I've even overstayed once by mistake and had to pay a 2000 baht fine at the airport and then move on. Something else going on here.
He insulted them when they asked for 20k baht at the airport for not reporting every 90 days which is why they locked him up. If he had of paid them and been polite, they would he let him leave.
@@LLOOYYYDD The laws have changed. The visa have changed. I believe that I stated that in the video. Have you watched it? I was there for it. I have witness to verify that. Watch the video and you will see me, then you can be a witness too. LOL
@@braddalton1951 bartering is part of business in Thailand. I have done that for everything from buying items to traffic tickets. They did not lose face. I am always polite with people and especially officials.
@@TheJunglePattayaThailand yeh yeh another bullshitter expat in Thailand - I have witnesses too of people who never got arrested for overstay even before the visa laws changed. You're one of those deluded Walter Mitty expats who sit in bars and spin stories of riches and glory days all the while having nothing to show but a 3k a month hovel in downtown pattaya and an ex-bargirl wife who has gotten rid of you after taking what little money you had in the bank. *Slow Clap* What a winner you are
I can appreciate the fact that he was locked up. But I can't get the point of doing time( a couple of weeks in lock up) when the other individual was in for 10 years, now that was Prison. Just as well, he learned his lesson, hopefully.
This is Eric from the interview. It was an immigration detention center. I call it prison for short. Many of the people in there were formerly in prison for other offenses. They weer sent there after they completes their sentence and were waiting deporation. But if you do not have the means to get back to your country or your country does not want you back and the Thai government won't release you, your options are very limited to say the least.
You can be waiting for deportation at your residence on the condition that you appear at the place indicated by the immigration officer handling your case. It is not compulsory to spend three weeks in the Detention Center. Immigration Act. Chapter 6. Section 54.
You have to report at predetermined intervals, if you don't there is a fine per day overstay. If you don't report there is a fine, if you don't pay.... Jail!
I thought if you had any kind of criminal background or offense they deny you entry into the country? He is making it sound like he went to jail and he can just come back no problem. I thought I read on the thai website they wont premit you to enter or give you a visa if you have any background issues
Surprised he’d want to go back to Thailand after that. But there are stories of some former pows returning to the countries where they were imprisoned as it had become their comfort zone.
He said that he doesn't have bad feelings towards Thailand for the incident because it was his fault for not checking in, and it was his embassy's fault for taking so long to buy the plane ticket. Other than the jail stint, it appears that he loves Thailand.
What a ridiculous situation out of an honest mistake. That's what I find in Thailand. They make these rules that are different to get information about and then expect you to be ok with the punishment
@@VagabondAwake oh that was the embassy that messed up. I thought he said the gaurds were helping him. Terrible situation. I love in Thailand and one thing I experience all the time is immigration give you so little information with getting a visa. I do t think I ever had a visa that didn't have issues.
@@maniac1367 This is Eric from the interview. The guards when I was in holding cells were fantastic for the most part. The Canadian Embassy angered one of my guards at one point which made things less than pleasant. Overall the embassy was less than helpful. If i knew then what I know now I would have been out much faster But I did get to see parts of the airport that most westerners do not get to see. LOL
I am referring to the movies in Thailand. Come over and watch. Then judge me. The prisoners are all covered in tats. I am just saying that he doesn't have the stereotype tats. I am noy judging tats.
Im living im car now and i really like it . Only one thing . A good matress is better. But im sleeping well and im safe. I love everthing else . I have everything you would need Including freedom. The only reason why im doing this is im going to the Philippines 🇵🇭 in may . I have the money just just wanted to see if i could do ? No rent to pay while in the Phillipines too. I can always find a place when i get back . Im really enjoying the freedom parked at work . Sounds crazy but i like it for real. Saving good money too. Its temporary. Only 67 days till liftoff to my Angel in the big P . Then marriage next year . 10 yes together. You think im moving too fast ? Lol
@@VagabondAwake ...but he said he didn't stay past his visa date, he just didn't know he had to "check in" somewhere every 60 days. I wouldn't have know that either and simply would have thought that my 6 month visa would be fine for that time without any "check ins". The punishment of jail seems harsh for a tourist simply forgetting or not knowing about, the required check ins.
@@mikedezo424 This is Eric from the interview. rust me it is NOTHING like a western prison. I would take 3 years in a Canadian prison before I would do another 3 weeks in a Thai prison. Friends that I made in there and I would laugh about how nice Thai prisons looked in the movies and we wished they were that nice. You have no idea.
I do have an idea. I’ve read some books of westerners who spent time in Thai prisons in the 80’s and 90’s now that was true hell. I’m sure they’ve gotten better since then.
@@mikedezo424can I ask you why you think they would improve conditions? Just because prisons in western countries are holiday camps doesn't mean everywhere is like that.
How could any country deport a Canadian? That would be like deporting Mother Theresa; “We fear the future because we are wasting the today,” quote by Mother Theresa.
Great interview, l think there is a business opportunity there, 'Thai Prison Tours' 21 days away at HKP (His Majesty's Prison) to find the true meaning of life........🙂 I'll be honest with you, i 'm not sure i believe his story, i was in Thailand around that time early 2016 and the reporting time was 90 days. l suspect he was a long time overstayer but didn't like to say.
My pals have been in the IDC. The Iranian lads in there who run the jail are sound as long you play by the rules and pay your way. Like anything lifes easy if you dont take the piss. I suppose if your not used to incarceration its a shock. If you have done plenty of bird its just another nick. Albeit a shit one.
There are many millions tourists came to Thailand and think about last 40 yrs. ago. How many people be deported? you are lucky guy ? Mind your business.
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Awesome story! I'm also Canadian and have been to Thailand 4 times between 2011-2015 before being diagnosed with terminal cancer and can say Thailand is an amazing place with beautiful people.. it too changed my life and perspective... I wish I could go back again but my treatment prevents me from doing so .. I miss Koh Phangan and Thailand 7/11's !!!!!!
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I stayed on Koh Phangan for three months about 15 years ago. It was life changing for me too. moto sigh, Song Kran, snorkeling at Kho Ma, Sat nights out for supper in Tong Sala and then to Haad Rin for Full moon Party. Temple sauna at Wat Po. Yoga and beach walks at Haad yai. Best time of my life. Hope you get to make it back. 👍🏼
@@MrBugPop that's soo awesome! I too snorkeled at Koh Ma (got stung by a jelly fish on my lip lol ) and been to Thong Sala, Bottle Beach and Haad Salad .. I also went to the Half Moon party twice which was amazing .. the place i truly loved was Thong Nai Pan where I spent most of my time during the 4 times I visited Thailand.. thanks for sharing !
His comments about being in Thai prison was the best thing that happened to him are quite relatable. Sometimes we need a big wake up call in life to really see what we have and appreciate things more.
Seriously, though... there is a MASSIVE difference between overstaying a visa and a few nights in detention, and "Thai prison"... sorry, but NOBODY in their right maind makes that reflection after having been in an actual prison. It's bullshit. When you are puking every day from filthy food, losing wieght, people start marking you for rape and you decide to kill yourself... THEN you will have a clue what it feels like. You will not sleep for months after getting out. You will have PTST. Sorry, but it was the lowest point in my life, and to call Thai Prisoon a "learning experience" or "the best thing" that could have happen is just delusional.
Learned a lot from this interview, well done by ALL of you. Thanks. So good to see people making friends in their interview!
This is your finest moment, great job. You approached this interview perfectly and let him say what he had to say with all the right prompts.
Awesome interview Dan. You let people talk, unlike many "interviewers" 💪... Love the Canadians attitude toward life too... WISH he could provide more details... But I "get it" that there could be repercussions as he wants to continue to stay in Thailand too...
Some real surprises in this story. I really appreciate hearing his story. All of the worst things that have happened to me in life have ended up having a positive side that ultimately outweighed the negative. Nonetheless, I don't want to repeat any of them. I expect to be in Thailand a couple weeks from now. I hope to avoid jail.
when i travel 20 years ago i just went to the nearest boarder and hop out and back same day but usually spend a night at another boarder country and come back .
Dan your my idol I finally medically retired got my social security now I’m waiting on my pension from my union I just turned 50 and I’m going to travel and live as cheap as possible and enjoy the rest of my life you guys rock keep inspiring people to enjoy life because from what I can see not to many live long enough to make it to retirement and the ones that do die shortly after.
Thank you Scott!
I was in his bar about a week ago he is really cool guy.
Canadian here. I also spent time in a maximum security prison in Thailand. It wasn't any fun. I can't believe they jailed you over this, lucky you were there a short time. Glad to see you are home.
Look like he is back in Thailand.
I can't believe it Either!!! A fella needs chest waders because the BS is too deep😊😉😎
It was hilarious how the Canadian embassy tried to get him a deal on a plane ticket and thereby extend his jail time by 2 weeks. That is such a huge fail. I guess it worked out for him though.
Embassy paid the air ticket? why?
@@fidelbarcena4495 I believe the embassy either gave his payment info to the airline or he has to pay the embassy back for the airline ticket purchase. He cannot personally buy tickets as he is in jail and has no access to phone or internet.
@@Hardwaregeekx Police there buy air tickets for deported ones at high prices to get their comision. So,It means you could be at prision as long as you have not air ticket.Nice....
I can relate to what he says about life in perspective, I had NDE due to motorcycle accident in Thailand, then started to look into Buddhism and religion, that led onto Ayahuasca and DMT and mushrooms, think that did more for me that being in a prison.
You know I love you guys. I love your videos I love your energy and your approach to everything. This is a great interview really enjoy watching it. I happen to be sitting in Cebu with my US Green card resident Filipina (and traveling the world and came here to visit family) we are considering moving to Thailand so this is particularly interesting. Thank you for sharing this and all your other videos which I am watching all the relevant data very carefully. Thanks for being a trusted source.
A fascinating story! I extended my visa another year just yesterday. I am not planning to follow in this guy’s footsteps.
So long as you comply with the visa granted to you...
Why not? You get to see things most people don't get to see. LMFAO Yes, it was not really worth it. But no matter what you have to make the best of any situation and learn from it. I would never want to do it again. But with that said, I am happy to have had that experience in life. No point in being bitter or resentful about it. That accomplishes nothing. Thailand is a beautiful and wonderful country that I now call home.
Two great interviews with this guy from Canada.
“I can’t answer that”. “I can’t talk about that”.
Thailand keeps moving down my list of places to visit.
I love it. But we all have to find our own way. :-)
Just follow the law and it's a great country to be in
Wow, another great interview! I didn't catch this gentleman's name if he said but I'm glad all turned out okay! 30 lbs is a really serious in such a short time.
Very profound dialogue Dan, thanks! At 11:00 what Eric and you relate really resonated with my experience of 15 years of working in the oilfields of Alaska. and what some of the friends I worked with who spent years in prison, or in war, and how they compared our lives in corporate slavery as was worse than a prison sentence, because our working sentence was self-inflicted.
Dan, your story of loosing everything also reminded of the Greek parable of 'The Lotus Eaters' and had to question if "paradise" is a notion, a state of mind, an illusion or something tangible? I suppose when much of one's life is spent in servitude to something like the proverbial Lotus Tree, perhaps paradise is simply escaping the prison of the Lotus Tree and discovering life as sovereign from it:
Wikipedia - The Lotus Eaters
In Greek mythology, the lotus-eaters (Greek: λωτοφάγοι, transit. lōtophágoi) were a race of people living on an island dominated by the lotus tree, a plant whose botanical identity is uncertain. The lotus fruits and flowers were the primary food of the island and were a narcotic, causing the inhabitants to sleep in peaceful apathy. After they ate the lotus, they would forget their home and loved ones, and only long to stay with their fellow lotus-eaters. Those who ate the plant never cared to report, nor return.
Figuratively, 'lotus-eater' denotes "a person who spends their time indulging in pleasure and luxury rather than dealing with practical concerns"
Enjoy watching your video. I feel bad for him for having to go thru that, but he said it was the best thing that happened to him. What an attitude!
Great interview Dan! Getting down to the Nitty Gritty of what really matters!
Wow. Great story, and not a conventional one. Thanks for sharing, and providing some unexpected insights...
Thanks for listening
I think is a 90 days report to the immigration not 60 days. The fine is 2000bahts for not reporting but not exceeding 20000 bahts and that subject to the officer who interviews you.
Yes. He was locked up in 2015 as mentioned in the video and he also mentions the new overstay fee.
At 2:10 at airport immigration he states the fine is 20,000 Baht.
At 3:34 from the Thai-English jail interpreter he states the fine is 2,000 Baht.
The Canadian interviewee did not mention anything about why the fine was reduced by 18,000 Baht. Perhaps it was the immigration officer's discretion as "Theeranan Jitmanee" said. But then that begs the question, why would the Thai court reduce it?
@@stuartm5745 This is Eric from the interview. The fine at the time fr ovstay was 20,000. I wa stold when I went to court that is I plead guilty the fine would be reduce to 2,000. If I had tried to fight it, it would remain at 20,000 and would have taken possibly months to go through tthe court.. But I had no argument other than stupidity.
loved this episode .. what a nice fellow !
Wow that’s awesome Dan, it’s life and it does get better
Really great interview!
Eric is a good guy, owns 2 bars on 13/1 The Jungle and The Rabbit Hole. Free Pool, lots of FUN!
Yes, the link to his bars are on the top link in the notes below this UA-cam video
A really inspiring video thanks.
Great interview, now I have some things to ask Eric next time I am in Pattaya.
Awesome story!
Dan, just an amazing interview, again.
You told them it was a scam when they asked for 20,000 baht which is why they sent you to a police station. You made them lose face and disrespected them. If you had of paid the 20,000 at the airport, they would have let you go. The fine for not reporting every 90 days is 2,000 baht.
why pay 20,000 baht if you owe 2,000. Was the person pocketing 18,000? The judge ordered/accepted a 2000 baht fine. Where was the 16000 going from the original person
This is Eric from the interview. The laws now are different than what you state. I also did not disrespect them. I have negotiated the price of a fine many times in Thailand. It is business not disrespect.
You can't always pay your way out of trouble in Thailand.
@@sake24Always probably not..
98% is likely depending on how deep your pockets are.
Children are exploited and victimized and very little is done to protect them.
Please don't mention the underfunded to task force
@@TheJunglePattayaThailand You mean that's corruption, not business. lol
Best video ever!!!
Very interesting. All The Best.
Thank you so much 🙂
What an incredible story. Very nice Canadian man but most of us are nice. Cheers 😘🥂😘
Canadians are so nice. Interesting story
@@cluggyahoo NOT at all! I consider them sophisticated and cultured. Likewise, the opposite is true for them. The British and Canadians have the courage to all kind of wars. I actually wish the British were in control of the US, we would be a better country. You never hear of school shootings like you do in the US.
@@Dan-xx5jq True! Agree!
@@cluggyahoo 👌
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. :-)
Great story
Thanks for listening
Something similar happened to me in China. I was on a yearly work visa and I had put in the form for my visa to be extended like I did every year. Normally I was on time, but a holiday was coming up and I didn't know that government departments and even certain police departments closed down for a two week holiday. This made my visa late for the processing, so my visa ended by the time they returned from their holiday. I wasn't asked to pay anything. I had to sit in the back room office of my local police station everyday from 9 to 5 while my visa was being processed. I wasn't in a cell, I had to sit in their office next to a desk while they worked. They were very friendly and made me cups of tea, some even tried to chat with me a little. I was allowed to go out for lunch to a restaurant from 12 to 1pm. It was interesting watching them work. Apparently they had some new software on their computers and none of them could figure out how to use it, it was funny. I was allowed to go home after 5pm and come back the next day at 9am. They told me that someone from the British embassy would come to see me. For the first few days I was expecting them to arrive but they never came. One of the officers told me a little later that the person from the British embassy was now not coming. I couldn't understand why not, so they never came and I was just left there. I had the feeling that they couldn't be bothered and felt quite upset with them. Although I had no money to pay, I still lost two weeks money by not working. Like I said, they were very friendly to me and I felt quite at home in their office watching them work..
Thanks for sharing. I usually try to do things ahead of deadlines if possible.
Interesting video. However.... There is no "60 day check in" for any type of visa... Not now and not in 2015. There is a requirement to report your whereabouts every 90 days. So right there the veracity of this story... Well... It just doesn't add up. Prison... For what exactly?
"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story "
@John Arnold as per my other comment, agree 100%, this guy is one of many people I've met in Thailand who spin stories
There has been a 90 day check in even back in 2015. You had to go to Immigration and verify your address. I know numerous people ( all expats) who did that. Back in 2017/2018, they changed from physical check In to online.
@@maxineb9598 correct.. This gut repeatedly said "60 day check in"
This is Eric from the interview. The laws have changed since then. I also believe there is no longer a 180 day tourist visa as there was then. The requirement was to check in every 60 days.
I am aware that you obviously know more than the Thai government and TAT about Thai visas. So, I won't bother wasting my time to introduce you to reality. But, in the off chance you dare to stop by and visit with some money in your pocket. I would truly love to relieve you of some money on a wager about who is correct in this matter. I sincerely hope to see soon. 555 If you want to ask the meaning of 555, feel free. :-) Also, please watch the video if you don't understand why I was in prison. Please, please, please come with large amounts of money you are willing to wager on your wisdom. PLEASE! :-)
Fun video he has a positive outlook
Prison for not “checking in” at immigration office…? I am not completely convinced. Usually, in those cases in Thailand, you are detained at the immigration point, pay a fine and off you go (out of the country). Perhaps….any other “side” in that story ?
He had a multi entry tourist visa allowing 60 days each entry. He overstayed his 60 day entry by more than 40 days ($500 baht per day up to 20,000 baht). The amazing thing is even after all this he has no clue about the visa rules that he ran afoul of. He was arrested by being in the country illegally and refusing to pay the fine which is known and published, not for missing a 60 day check in which does not exist.
In the video he explains that he was detained under the old rules in 2015. He also mentioned the 500 Baht per day rule that you mention. Sorry about any confusion. Just make sure you know the rules for the type of visa you get and follow them.
@Viperine agreed - Even before 2015 so many people messed up on checking in every 60-90 days and they got a basic fine, never heard of anyone being imprisoned like this. Something not right to this guy's story. Even I messed up pre-2015 once and I had to pay a fine at the airport and move on.
It's not prison. It's an immigration detention center.
@@tonray9395 Exactly what I was thinking as well. He seems to still have no clue about why he was in "a Thai Prison".
The Prison was actually the Immigration Detention Center, so not really what most people would understand as a "Thai Prison"...
I also saw another YTer who travels round the word and realized he had overstated his visa in Kenya. He assumed he got a 45 day visas when he actually got a 30 day visa. He didn't bother to check the visa because he thought he applied for a 45 day visa.
The immigration official told him he had to pay a $100 fine and he was pissed. He paid it.
I think it is better to pay the fine than stay a detention center.
I would pay the fine too. But he mentions in the video that the official wanted 20k baht fine which is over $500 now so he thought it was a scam. But he laos explains the new fine in the video.
@@VagabondAwake The fine has always been 500 a day and a maximum of 20 000. That's what he was being asked to pay, not a scam.
I'm Canadian and have spent 1 year in Thailand. I got threatened to be taken to the detention center by immigration in Bangkok if I didn't show them proof of a flight leaving the country within 24 hours. Thankfully I was able to find a flight that had a seat for me and leave before my 24 hour time limit was up or else I more than likely would of ended up at the same place as this man was in. That's pretty crazy to hear that being in a Thai Prison was the best thing that ever happened to him. It would be good to know more details about what all went on inside the prison while he was there but I completely understand why he chose not to share this information. Thanks for the video!
Why did they require you to leave within 24 hours?
In the 60s I was involved with the Thai military for extended periods and got to know the Thai people very well.
I was young and they were young, I was supposed to be guiding/teaching them to use more advanced airplanes.
But I believe I learned more from them than they learned from me.
Thru association, they taught me so much, they taught without saying a single word, they taught by example.
I made real life friendships with these amazing people.
These Thai Air Force and other military special forces looked forward to going to the Buddhist Temple for a period of weeks.
I think it may have been similar to Eric's 3 weeks in jail.
They would live at the Temple completely isolated from the society and learn to live on only the essentials with the Monks.
3 weeks like this, probably clears the body and mind of all the junk of everyday life.
Amazing story. Thank you for sharing. Curtis. Dan
I love this guy. I want to come be a cook for him at his bar. I know we would get along and I don't need much money to survive.
I didn't quite understand the beginning. You mean he chose jail over a 20,000 bhat fine?
This is Eric from the interview. I trued to negotiate the fine down because I thought it was a scam. Once I tred that I was soon in a cell and my flight had left.
Wow, what a story!
Too many inconsistencies and holes in this guy's story. No such thing as 60 day check in. What he had was a 6 month multi entry visa with each entry granting a 60 day permission of stay. After 60 days you must leave the country, so he was in the country illegally and the overstay fine is 500 per day up to a maximum fine of 20,000 baht, which means he had overstayed by at least 40 days.
In the video he explains that he was detained under the old rules in 2015. He also mentioned the 500 Baht per day rule that you mention. Sorry about any confusion. Just make sure you know the rules for the type of visa you get and follow them.
No... OP on this reply is right. Terms haven't changed that much. A multi entry visa around 2015 gave 60 days and the primary option was the visa run to get the exit/entry stamp.
@@colindale9711 This is Eric from the interview. I had a 180 day tourist visa and was to check in every 60 days. that was the law then.
Could you give me a document about this check in? I'm having trouble finding anything about it.
Hello Louis Miller, All of our videos have a webpage that has the information discussed in that video so you don't have to take notes. The link to that web page for this video is the first link in the description below this video.
In case you don't know how to find the link, here is a UA-cam video teaching how:
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Most of our videos have multiple links to important information that will help you save time and money. It is our way of thanking you for watching our videos.
So, ... thank you, Dan
@@VagabondAwake I know how to find links underneath UA-cam videos, but I'm glad you were able to share the level of sophistication your viewers have. I clicked on the link and it was the same information from the video.
Well, the Canadian gentleman didn't seem to want to explain things clearly in the video. It looks like the immigration officer gave him a fine of 20,000 baht, before exiting, which sounds legitimate, for $600 for not checking in, and his incarceration was a result of the refusal to pay the fine.
But, I was hoping for something in writing about the rules for the visa and if they spell out penalties. I'm just a normal shmuck, but if he is a business owner, he should be more used to these sorts of formalities.
I never thought I could live on the money I get which is around 300 dollar a month but I do. Like being in that prison you just have to do it or else, it taught this guy to appreciate the little things. I know people who get half of what I get and they are happy, I know people who get ten times what I get and they are sad bastards. I am pretty happy to be alive and well at 68, everyday is a gift.
It is very possible to live in Thailand cheaply and well. It all depends on the mindset. The majority of expats make zero effort to adapt in anyway. They live in a bubble completely separate from the Thais and spend thousands a month and most look miserable.
Typo $3000 pm?
How do you survive on $300/mo? Do you live in the States?
@@theotheleo6830 You can't live on $300 a month in the US, he must be in Thailand or some other country.
@@theotheleo6830 I stay away from the bars.
I forgot to do my 90 day check in once I think it was about a month late last year and I’am on a yearly retirement visa in Thailand, went to the immigration office I just had to pay a 2,000baht fine, no dramas I payed it of course and have had no repercussions 😊. Great that in the end he had a positive outcome from the experience!
Saw a story about a lady that was arrested for feeding fish
My Canadian friends tell me how terrible the service at their embassies is terrible.
Thank you Peter Mckinnon! Thanks for watching and commenting. :-) Dan
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Did the Canadian go back to Thailand or did he remain in Canada?
Here is the rest of his story: ua-cam.com/video/wwauoyzfWwc/v-deo.html
This is Eric from the video. I now live in Thailand and am a bar owner here. I plan to live here forever now. :-)
We are thinking of staying in Thailand on an education visa. It looks beautiful and is decently priced for us. However the flights are around $4000 per person coming from Canada and that negates the lower cost of living.
Is there a flight path and/or carrier you have found to be decently priced?
I have never paid that much for a flight to SE Asia. Check again after the new years starting around the 5th of Jan. Check Skyscanner.
I could be wrong but he looks familiar was he ever arrested in the Philippines?
He mentions in another video that Thailand is the only foreign country he has been to. ua-cam.com/video/wwauoyzfWwc/v-deo.html
This is Eric from the interview. I have never been arrested in the Philippines. I have been to a few other countries before but never arrested in any of them.
Wow great story it almost happened
to me here in the Philippines overstayed payed big fine thank God I didn't make time in jail, can wait to go back to Canada this is a wake up call for all of us, get your Visa up to date so no problems may arise! Peace be safe everybody👍
Wow. This guy has such a positive outlook about what happened. Quite amazing. Most would be bitter or complain about their treatment. At least it sounds like the IDC is not as severe as the Thai prisons. The prisons you're with the hatdcore criminals for very violent crimes.
Still jail or prison is no vacation
In the US, they just give you a court date and let you go on with your vacation until that day. They do not hold you in a cell. And if you decide to leave the country right before your court date, they are all too pleased and your case is closed.
They are currently millions of 'overstay' visas in the US. I believe I read that over one million overstays from India itself. They came over with student visas and never returned back to India. In fact, parents in India take out a loan to send their kids to the US so that they stay there and get US citizenship.
In the US, it is estimated that there are over 20 million undocumented people, the last time i read. It would be impossible to hold them all in a detention center.
However, a large majority of countries are very strict and operate just like Thailand.
I was even shocked to read that India arrested Ukrainians for overstaying their visas in India while the war is going on now.
So, be very careful, when you go to another country. Do not assume they operate like the US or your country.
Pop in a few sources next time Dan. :-) And yes, learn the visa laws so you don't have to pay visa fines or go to detention.
@@VagabondAwake You are right I had it wrong, I just didn't think the number was that high. I got this off a quick Google search, which mentions two sources.
"The Pew Research Center, which tracks this data, reports that there were 5,00,000 unauthorised immigrants from India living in the US in 2014, up from 3,50,000 in 2009 - a 43% increase. However, the Migration Policy Institute, a NGO based in Washington DC, estimates that the number of undocumented Indians in the US might be much lower, at around 2,67,000."..
Nobody seems to know what the right number is??
I believe immigration is a good thing. Unfortunately the system is broken.
And so i was pointing out that, under the current system, people who don't play by the rules, get rewarded, which is very, very, unfair. And a talented person living in a poor under developed country who plays by the rules will not get it. I would like to believe that we are about fairness in this country....
Sounds like they’re using the China model of let anyone in. It’s when you try to leave there could be a issue.
How did you find this guy and why was he in prison for overstay can you just pay a fine or was it a great amount of overstay? I believe in the Philippines they just have you pay the phone unless it goes on for years they might be for you.
He covers both questions in the video in detail. :-)
I served 5 years in prison in California 20 years ago and I agree with what everything he says its the best thing that ever happend to me
Wow. I never knew that people thought that way.
I really like your Videos and I hope we will meat some time.
In 2021 I sold everything I owned & moved to another state with what fit in my Honda. Now I have to learn how to live out of a backpack
You will love it.
Just for 20k baht you chosen jail??
Was this advisory to check in with Police every 60 days, written in Bold? Surely this should be BIG PRINT on Thai Visa / Canadian Gov Advisories.
180 day visa, and you have to check in every 60 days. When I was in Russia, staying in a girl´s appt, you had to check in every 14 days, only the office was never open. So when I had to leave, I thought I am screwed, but the system was so corrupt, some hotel stamped me as being there the whole time...
She was a Doctor who earned $50/month, and yet earned so much more signing people off as unfit for russian army.
It's every 90 days not 60 days. It can be done on line. It's not a big deal not doing it, usually a 2000 baht fine. More going on here than we are being told I think.
Humphrey, great story on Russia.
Jeremy, He mentions in the video that these are the old Thai rules.
@@jeremyfielding2333 This is Eric from the interview. The laws were different then.
I'm not gonna mention what country, but when I was at the airport I didn't "have to" , but I had to pay a fee in currency to one of the officers upon arriving for what my guide described as a tip. And It definitely wasn't someone handling my baggage. To me the moral of the video is pay the officer and maybe question it later.
Be careful who you tell. The USA has a law that it is unlawful to bribe government officials in foreign countries. The law was meant to stop large US corporations from getting monopolies overseas by bribing foreign government officials but the law does not apply only to corporations. It prohibits any bribing any foreign government officials.
@@VagabondAwake I was with a national of that country, and it seemed to be a routine process? I just don't remember what it was about, and guess it had to do with getting stamped, and on our way?
Entertaining interview .......and he was'nt a "guest" in a Bangkok Hilton....
👏 wow
It is very uncommon and rare for foreigners to do prison time in Thailand for such a short overstay of his visa. To be honest something is not clear or correct about his story. Foreigners many of those criminals who entered the country have hidden here for decades were held a short time and then later deported and given a Black Stamp in their passports so they could never enter again. I was expecting to hear the story of a real criminal not some guy who it seems made an honest mistake and was made an example of for some very odd reason.
thank you, someone else is thinking the same thing as me. This guys story doesn't add up, I've never heard of anyone going through this for not doing a 90day report. I've even overstayed once by mistake and had to pay a 2000 baht fine at the airport and then move on. Something else going on here.
He insulted them when they asked for 20k baht at the airport for not reporting every 90 days which is why they locked him up. If he had of paid them and been polite, they would he let him leave.
@@LLOOYYYDD The laws have changed. The visa have changed. I believe that I stated that in the video. Have you watched it? I was there for it. I have witness to verify that. Watch the video and you will see me, then you can be a witness too. LOL
@@braddalton1951 bartering is part of business in Thailand. I have done that for everything from buying items to traffic tickets. They did not lose face. I am always polite with people and especially officials.
@@TheJunglePattayaThailand yeh yeh another bullshitter expat in Thailand - I have witnesses too of people who never got arrested for overstay even before the visa laws changed. You're one of those deluded Walter Mitty expats who sit in bars and spin stories of riches and glory days all the while having nothing to show but a 3k a month hovel in downtown pattaya and an ex-bargirl wife who has gotten rid of you after taking what little money you had in the bank. *Slow Clap* What a winner you are
Well, they arrested and deported me because i played guitar at the marketing place in Ranong 5 years ago and i had to pay a fine of 10.000 baht...
Did they want to see a work permit or something?
@@VagabondAwake Ya, they accused me of working without working permit and fined me 10.000 baht because of begging...
I can appreciate the fact that he was locked up. But I can't get the point of doing time( a couple of weeks in lock up) when the other individual was in for 10 years, now that was Prison. Just as well, he learned his lesson, hopefully.
This is Eric from the interview. It was an immigration detention center. I call it prison for short. Many of the people in there were formerly in prison for other offenses. They weer sent there after they completes their sentence and were waiting deporation. But if you do not have the means to get back to your country or your country does not want you back and the Thai government won't release you, your options are very limited to say the least.
We're trying to get you a deal
You can be waiting for deportation at your residence on the condition that you appear at the place indicated by the immigration officer handling your case. It is not compulsory to spend three weeks in the Detention Center. Immigration Act. Chapter 6. Section 54.
Do you have a link to that in writing?
@@VagabondAwake Google Immigration Act. Chapter 6. Section 54.
Did he see Mr. Chow?
You have to report at predetermined intervals, if you don't there is a fine per day overstay. If you don't report there is a fine, if you don't pay.... Jail!
I thought if you had any kind of criminal background or offense they deny you entry into the country? He is making it sound like he went to jail and he can just come back no problem. I thought I read on the thai website they wont premit you to enter or give you a visa if you have any background issues
No 1000 s of UK criminals reside in Pattaya .If that were true they would not have gotten in .
Rules and procedures change all the time around thew world. That is why it is always good to have backup plans.
This is Eric from the interview. The laws here were different at that time. All I needed to do was be deported and then I was free to return.
WOW, what a silver lining for this guy that spent time in a Thai prison….very interesting.
So that is how a person lose 10 pounds a week .Sound like a New and Improve tour package to me . Great story . Thanks for sharing .
Surprised he’d want to go back to Thailand after that. But there are stories of some former pows returning to the countries where they were imprisoned as it had become their comfort zone.
It would be pretty much identical to Stockholm syndrome.
He said that he doesn't have bad feelings towards Thailand for the incident because it was his fault for not checking in, and it was his embassy's fault for taking so long to buy the plane ticket. Other than the jail stint, it appears that he loves Thailand.
Stockholm syndrome.
When we realize true consequence to action you can't complain.🤣
Yah, why???
He explains in the video.
@@VagabondAwake oh ok ✌️
Jail in Thailand sucks
What a ridiculous situation out of an honest mistake. That's what I find in Thailand. They make these rules that are different to get information about and then expect you to be ok with the punishment
In the video, he mentions he would have been out in 24 hours if the Canadian Embassy had bought a flight that he gave them the money for.
@@VagabondAwake oh that was the embassy that messed up. I thought he said the gaurds were helping him. Terrible situation. I love in Thailand and one thing I experience all the time is immigration give you so little information with getting a visa. I do t think I ever had a visa that didn't have issues.
@@maniac1367 This is Eric from the interview. The guards when I was in holding cells were fantastic for the most part. The Canadian Embassy angered one of my guards at one point which made things less than pleasant. Overall the embassy was less than helpful. If i knew then what I know now I would have been out much faster But I did get to see parts of the airport that most westerners do not get to see. LOL
A judgment call about tattoos is not cool. I find that very offensive
I am referring to the movies in Thailand. Come over and watch. Then judge me. The prisoners are all covered in tats. I am just saying that he doesn't have the stereotype tats. I am noy judging tats.
90 day check in.
This is Eric from the interview. The laws have chaged. I was here on 180 day tourist visa with a 60 days check in.
Thanks for clarifying Eric. :-)
Dan & Qiang ur great awesome video and when Qiang's sister is available for dating let me know ha ha ha
There's more to the story that he's telling
This is Eric from the interview. What do refer to? About why I was arrested or about what happened inside the prison?
Im living im car now and i really like it . Only one thing . A good matress is better. But im sleeping well and im safe. I love everthing else . I have everything you would need Including freedom. The only reason why im doing this is im going to the Philippines 🇵🇭 in may . I have the money just just wanted to see if i could do ? No rent to pay while in the Phillipines too. I can always find a place when i get back . Im really enjoying the freedom parked at work . Sounds crazy but i like it for real. Saving good money too. Its temporary. Only 67 days till liftoff to my Angel in the big P . Then marriage next year . 10 yes together. You think im moving too fast ? Lol
You are getting married after 10 years together? Doesn't sound rushed. lol.
You can't ignore a truly great pinay forever ❤️
Now I know why I won't go to Thailand.
All countries have rules against staying past your visa stamp date.
@@VagabondAwake ...but he said he didn't stay past his visa date, he just didn't know he had to "check in" somewhere every 60 days. I wouldn't have know that either and simply would have thought that my 6 month visa would be fine for that time without any "check ins". The punishment of jail seems harsh for a tourist simply forgetting or not knowing about, the required check ins.
3 weeks and bye bye 30lbs, lots of Americans should go to this camp.
3 weeks is nothing. He’s talking like it was 3 years.
He says how long in the video. :-)
Yes clearly I know that but he acts like the life lessons he learned like he spent 3 years there. 3 weeks is nothing
@@mikedezo424 This is Eric from the interview. rust me it is NOTHING like a western prison. I would take 3 years in a Canadian prison before I would do another 3 weeks in a Thai prison. Friends that I made in there and I would laugh about how nice Thai prisons looked in the movies and we wished they were that nice. You have no idea.
I do have an idea. I’ve read some books of westerners who spent time in Thai prisons in the 80’s and 90’s now that was true hell. I’m sure they’ve gotten better since then.
@@mikedezo424can I ask you why you think they would improve conditions? Just because prisons in western countries are holiday camps doesn't mean everywhere is like that.
How could any country deport a Canadian? That would be like deporting Mother Theresa; “We fear the future because we are wasting the today,” quote by Mother Theresa.
how cliche. Strap on some skates and prepare to be brutalized by the toughest men on the planet.
First 😊
Now you know how poc feels when they are rounded up in your country.
Great interview, l think there is a business opportunity there, 'Thai Prison Tours' 21 days away at HKP (His Majesty's Prison) to find the true meaning of life........🙂 I'll be honest with you, i 'm not sure i believe his story, i was in Thailand around that time early 2016 and the reporting time was 90 days. l suspect he was a long time overstayer but didn't like to say.
Thanks for watching Marlec Marine! Dan
This is Eric from the interview. At the time the law stted with a 180 day tourist visa I was to check in evey 60 days.
Tattoos are your idea of prison types what’s up with that statement
Come to thailand and watch the movies here.
Every country is fun until you get into trouble.
So far so good
The whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God!
My pals have been in the IDC. The Iranian lads in there who run the jail are sound as long you play by the rules and pay your way. Like anything lifes easy if you dont take the piss. I suppose if your not used to incarceration its a shock. If you have done plenty of bird its just another nick. Albeit a shit one.
There are many millions tourists came to Thailand and think about last 40 yrs. ago.
How many people be deported?
you are lucky guy ?
Mind your business.