Completely missing from this account is the intra-Jewish conflict between pro-Hellenizing Jews (usually the elites) and those who wanted to resist Hellenization, at least to the extent of re-taking the Temple in Jerusalem and getting rid of idolatrous sacrifices and so on. While the Jews, like everyone affected by Hellenistic culture, were influenced to varying degrees, the extent of the influence was a major source of Jew-against-Jew violence during the conflict.
Yeah, this is a very good point. The conflict between high priests, the various examples of treachery and betrayal, there's a lot missing. To be fair, he's trying to keep his videos short, but it could have used a mention at least. On the contrary, he seemed to imply that the Maccabeans actually did the opposite and allowed the idolatry and the like after Mattathias died, but as I recall that was not the case, but perhaps I misunderstood him.
It's also a bit misleading to say that Jews never accepted Maccabees in their canon. Some did and some still do. The canon was never properly and fully closed in Judaism, the most commonly accepted canon is what they established in the second century at Jamnia under Rabbi Akiba (and no, I'm not talking about the mythical and non-existent council of Jamnia that historians reject as having any evidence of actually having happened), but many Jews before and after accepted different lists than the canon established there, some including one or more of the books of Maccabees.
Sacrifices can be brought on Shabbat, any work done in the Temple was allowed on the Sabbath (this is easily attested by the biblical passages requiring sacrifices on Shabbat). The reason Channukah is eight days is two-fold. The practical reason was that they brought sacrifices for the Sukkot that had been missed that year. The second is that the original 'chanukat habait' for the mishkan in the desert took eight days, so there's a parallel at this new 'chanukat habait' when the Temple was re-dedicated to Jewish service.
There another layer to the Sukkot/ temple dedication. Kings 7-8 describes Solomon dedicating the temple and then celebrating sukkot (the chronicles version has 8 days, longer discussion why kings doesn’t have shmini altered ) so the Hasmoneans declaring an 8 day holiday strengthened their rule by connecting them to Solomon (see dr yael avarahami “biblical buildings blocks of chanukah “
The Maccabees and Hanuka are downplayed by late antiquity - early medieval rabbis and Talmud because of the similarities between Roman and Greek occupation. Judea was tired of rebellions, its population massacred and enslaved. The whole point of rabbinical Judaism is to adapt religion to a time without the Temple and that is exactly the opposite of the Hanuka story...
Obviously it became latter day popular because of the modern industrial-capitalist nationalist mythos of the contemporary State of Israel and to laud the early Zionists by implication
Granted, that the sacrificial process should be considered work, the Biblical text clearly contradicts the assertion that it’s forbidden on the Shabbat for temple services. Here is one among other sources: “On the Sabbath day, make an offering of two lambs a year old without defect…” (Numbers 28:9)
I've been binging these videos and I assumed that these must be pretty new because there aren't many views and likes... and then I noticed they're from 2019?? I can't believe your channel hasn't blown up! These videos are incredible and I hope more people will find them later like I did
השיר בסוף היה נגיעה יפה מאוד. גרם לי לחשוב על שחרור ירושלים ב67 - אני יכול רק לדמיין את הרגע בו הרובים שקטו ודממה ירדה על הר הבית. אחד החיילים נזכר במרד המכבים ומתחיל לשיר בשקט ״מעוז צור״ ושאר הפלוגה מצטרפת. אוהב מאוד את הסרטונים שלך. ❤️ The song at the end was a very beautiful touch. Made me think of the liberation of Jerusalem in 67 - I can only imagine the moment the guns went quiet and silence fell on the temple mount. One of the troops recalls the Maccabi rebellion and quietly sings “Maoz Tzur” as the rest of the company gradually joins in. Love your videos. ❤️
As a Christian who loves diving into the Hebraic roots of my faith and the period between the Old and New Testament, these videos are gold! I’m learning a lot of history. The truth is all of history is God’s story of how He time and time again saved His people Israel from annihilating against all odds and used that nation to bring knowledge of the One true God, Hashem to the nations. I wish more Christians would study Hannukuh, it’s a miracle of biblical proportions (pun-intended).
Worship Allah, the One true God, Lord of Abraham. Follow that which has been revealed to prophet Muhammad ﷺ who confirmed the prophets who came before him, all of them, Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Aaron & Jesus & all the others which I haven’t named. (Peace & blessings be upon them all)
so I googled the book of Maccabes on wikipedia and it said that the book of Maccabes isn't treated as canonical by Jews.... why is this if it's the basis for hannukah? It must be important on that basis alone? Is there anything of great importance that I'm missing?
Because, for whatever reason, Akiva ben Yosef (who ultimately set the canon) didn't like it. I'd guess that he didn't want to include a book that was entirely about human endeavors with no Godly presence...but then he included Esther, so who knows? It bothers me too.
I want to know more about your background so you say that you are not a historian but it seems like you might technically not be a historian you are a very good one literally. Why should we listen to if you're not astorian and where did you acquire the skill of youtubing and and telling stories that you know or entertaining and informative?
It was the law of the LORD his God Deuteronomy 13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Deuteronomy 13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Deuteronomy 13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: Deuteronomy 13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. Deuteronomy 13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. Deuteronomy 13:11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.
I know this is 3 y.o., but I am a little disturbed by the repeated claim there is no sacrifice on Shabbos. Clearly the author never davened in a shull or something. Hope the rest of the facts are better researched. Enjoying all the videos immensely.
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Completely missing from this account is the intra-Jewish conflict between pro-Hellenizing Jews (usually the elites) and those who wanted to resist Hellenization, at least to the extent of re-taking the Temple in Jerusalem and getting rid of idolatrous sacrifices and so on. While the Jews, like everyone affected by Hellenistic culture, were influenced to varying degrees, the extent of the influence was a major source of Jew-against-Jew violence during the conflict.
Yeah, this is a very good point. The conflict between high priests, the various examples of treachery and betrayal, there's a lot missing. To be fair, he's trying to keep his videos short, but it could have used a mention at least. On the contrary, he seemed to imply that the Maccabeans actually did the opposite and allowed the idolatry and the like after Mattathias died, but as I recall that was not the case, but perhaps I misunderstood him.
It's also a bit misleading to say that Jews never accepted Maccabees in their canon. Some did and some still do. The canon was never properly and fully closed in Judaism, the most commonly accepted canon is what they established in the second century at Jamnia under Rabbi Akiba (and no, I'm not talking about the mythical and non-existent council of Jamnia that historians reject as having any evidence of actually having happened), but many Jews before and after accepted different lists than the canon established there, some including one or more of the books of Maccabees.
Felt like it was a good time to revisit this video... happy Chanukah to those who will be celebrating!
You just wait until my special on Friday...
They started selling sufganiyot again in ampm...which led me back to this video
Sacrifices can be brought on Shabbat, any work done in the Temple was allowed on the Sabbath (this is easily attested by the biblical passages requiring sacrifices on Shabbat). The reason Channukah is eight days is two-fold. The practical reason was that they brought sacrifices for the Sukkot that had been missed that year. The second is that the original 'chanukat habait' for the mishkan in the desert took eight days, so there's a parallel at this new 'chanukat habait' when the Temple was re-dedicated to Jewish service.
There another layer to the Sukkot/ temple dedication. Kings 7-8 describes Solomon dedicating the temple and then celebrating sukkot (the chronicles version has 8 days, longer discussion why kings doesn’t have shmini altered ) so the Hasmoneans declaring an 8 day holiday strengthened their rule by connecting them to Solomon (see dr yael avarahami “biblical buildings blocks of chanukah “
The Maccabees and Hanuka are downplayed by late antiquity - early medieval rabbis and Talmud because of the similarities between Roman and Greek occupation. Judea was tired of rebellions, its population massacred and enslaved. The whole point of rabbinical Judaism is to adapt religion to a time without the Temple and that is exactly the opposite of the Hanuka story...
Good point
I had a study hall teacher who was a pastor who hated the Maccabees. Never really understood why, but he was crazy
Obviously it became latter day popular because of the modern industrial-capitalist nationalist mythos of the contemporary State of Israel and to laud the early Zionists by implication
3:05 This is the origin of the expression 'draw a line in the sand'.
תודה לך, סם היקר, על הערוץ שלך. למדתי כל כך הרבה ממך
Granted, that the sacrificial process should be considered work, the Biblical text clearly contradicts the assertion that it’s forbidden on the Shabbat for temple services.
Here is one among other sources: “On the Sabbath day, make an offering of two lambs a year old without defect…” (Numbers 28:9)
Just started reading 1st Maccabees in my Bible. Good thing I found your channel.
With Hanukkah in just a few days, it felt an appropriate time to revisit.
This is so good. I can't believe this series doesnt have 100,000s of views
I've been binging these videos and I assumed that these must be pretty new because there aren't many views and likes... and then I noticed they're from 2019?? I can't believe your channel hasn't blown up! These videos are incredible and I hope more people will find them later like I did
does this video get a major boost in views this time of the year?
I looked it up, and apparently it does, but not enough for me to notice when looking at the channel overall.
השיר בסוף היה נגיעה יפה מאוד. גרם לי לחשוב על שחרור ירושלים ב67 - אני יכול רק לדמיין את הרגע בו הרובים שקטו ודממה ירדה על הר הבית. אחד החיילים נזכר במרד המכבים ומתחיל לשיר בשקט ״מעוז צור״ ושאר הפלוגה מצטרפת. אוהב מאוד את הסרטונים שלך. ❤️
The song at the end was a very beautiful touch. Made me think of the liberation of Jerusalem in 67 - I can only imagine the moment the guns went quiet and silence fell on the temple mount. One of the troops recalls the Maccabi rebellion and quietly sings “Maoz Tzur” as the rest of the company gradually joins in. Love your videos. ❤️
Man it's a shame your channel only has such few subscribers. Love your videos. A fellow Muslim ☪️✡️♥️
✡️❤️☪️
I made a Maccabeeline to this episode!
Excellent video !
Folk history or not, I think the REAL point of the holiday is that oil's well that ends well.
I'd love to know where you got your maps. Did you make them or do you source them from a book/website?
Omniatlas, one of the patrons.
Fantastic video
Great video
Priceless.
you are brilliant
7:38 Great videos!! But, I find vocals very distracting.
Really curious about the Maoz Tzur at the end, where is it from?
Nice to rewatch ahead or chanuka. BTW your 8 day theory doesn't exactly work (as there was sacrifices on shabbos in the temple)
As a Christian who loves diving into the Hebraic roots of my faith and the period between the Old and New Testament, these videos are gold! I’m learning a lot of history. The truth is all of history is God’s story of how He time and time again saved His people Israel from annihilating against all odds and used that nation to bring knowledge of the One true God, Hashem to the nations. I wish more Christians would study Hannukuh, it’s a miracle of biblical proportions (pun-intended).
Worship Allah, the One true God, Lord of Abraham.
Follow that which has been revealed to prophet Muhammad ﷺ who confirmed the prophets who came before him, all of them, Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Aaron & Jesus & all the others which I haven’t named.
(Peace & blessings be upon them all)
@@agadirand4four347 you cannot force someone into your faith.
What’s the song at 7:34 called? Happy Hanukkah
Maoz tsur
@ I’ve been able to find it, but not this specific version and it’s driving me crazy!
At the risk of looking stupid, what was the miracle that Sam talked about around 8:00?
Curious myself.
what's the song from near the end?
Sam, Staradub is an old Belarusian (GDL) city , not an Ukranien one
What song is that at the end it sound familiar
Maoz Tzur
so I googled the book of Maccabes on wikipedia and it said that the book of Maccabes isn't treated as canonical by Jews.... why is this if it's the basis for hannukah? It must be important on that basis alone? Is there anything of great importance that I'm missing?
Because, for whatever reason, Akiva ben Yosef (who ultimately set the canon) didn't like it. I'd guess that he didn't want to include a book that was entirely about human endeavors with no Godly presence...but then he included Esther, so who knows? It bothers me too.
Wait, what is the miracle, 1000 miles away?
It's in the episode after this one.
When I think about Hanukkah, I remember Ross from Friends dressed as an armadillo. "THE MAAACCAAABEEEEEEEES!!"
A NATO counter with a dot in the center is artillery, what were those Seleucid units in the Jerusalem citadel using? Balistas?
What’s the music starting in 7:00?
מעוז צור (maoz tsur)
@@terner1234 thanks!
Rock of Ages in English -- not to be confused with the Christian hymn with the same name.
Chag sameach!
We Catholics keep the Macabees in our Bible, even after the Jews excluded it following the Temple's destruction by Rome. It's a fascinating read.
How you have the wrong symbol on your thubnail, you got a menorah up there instead of a chanukiah. Everyone laughing.
Chanukkah Sameakh y'all
I wonder why Maccabees didn’t make it into the Tanakh
what is the reason for jewish sercumsin.
It was a command for the sign of the covenant between God and Abraham and his descendants
I want to know more about your background so you say that you are not a historian but it seems like you might technically not be a historian you are a very good one literally. Why should we listen to if you're not astorian and where did you acquire the skill of youtubing and and telling stories that you know or entertaining and informative?
Who forced the Maccabees dad to kill Idol Worshipping Jews?
It was the law of the LORD his God
Deuteronomy 13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
Deuteronomy 13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
Deuteronomy 13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
Deuteronomy 13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
Deuteronomy 13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
Deuteronomy 13:11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.
Comment!
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I know this is 3 y.o., but I am a little disturbed by the repeated claim there is no sacrifice on Shabbos. Clearly the author never davened in a shull or something.
Hope the rest of the facts are better researched. Enjoying all the videos immensely.
It's pronounced Sell-yoo-sid. not suh-Loo-kid. The C is pronounced as an S and emphasis is on the first syllable.
circumcision is healthy
fun fact: I was born in Hanukkah so I always see it as a symbol of sort
Sam, Staradub is an old Belarusian (GDL) city , not an Ukranien one