Ciaran Cafferkey Kathy is Ben's mother and "Shirl" is short for Shirley and Shirley used to be Ben's stepmother. Shirley is the one that's sitting across from him and Kathy is next to him
@@KanonHara cos it'd been a long time since they had a heart to heart. He grew up with her being like a mother figure and Hev like an aunt to him. She was/is the only one that gets through to him when he goes off on one. Cos she still cares about him deep down.
In spite of everything, I never saw the character Shirley as a villain, but as a suffering and bitter woman who has already taken a lot in life and that is why today she has such a hard and strong personality. She was definitely never happy
The only one who could talk sent into Ben was probably Shirley she would stick up for Ben when Phil never did same with Heather even though ben did kill her but he loved her he regrets killing her
I miss Harry Reid's Ben. He actually felt like the opposite to Phil while still being his son. The new Ben is just a carbon copy of Phil and is basically just his lapdog.
I love Ben tho sometimes he can go a bit far, like Warren really from hollyoaks he's bad but like bad as in the lion who roars but sometimes can go a bit to far. If that makes any sense
If someone murdered your best friend, in a fit of rage, wouldn't you be angry? Heather posed no threat at all, he knew what he was doing, that the metal frame would kill her, at full force, he's lucky Shirley didn't kill him, personally, I'd find that harder to forgive, than Dean raping Roxy.
I love the fact Ben was eating Cheese and Chips because Heather used to bring Ben there. I think that’s why Shirley knew that would get to him. She knew even if he maybe didn’t realise he was doing it, he was remembering Heather in his own way
Shirley was actually out of line here phil didn't deserve another chance he'd already been given far far more than Ben had been given and this version of Ben was actually trying to turn his life around and be a better person unlike phil so the comparison isn't fair at all phil's already been given second chances and third chances and fourth chances etc etc. yet he still refused to even try and fight his addiction any longer there comes a point where you have to stop giving second chances and cut the toxic cunt out of your life for your own health and phil was deffo beyond that point during this period in the show.
Yes, I have many 'ACCIDENTS' where I clobber someone over the head with a photo frame. He may not have meant to kill her but he meant to cause her harm.
yeh but thats got nothing to do with shirley, she wasnt even around during deans childhood so she didnt even raise him ,not her fault he turned out the way he did
@freddiemeyer4563 Maybe he turned out that way in part due to the fact he never had a mother. Youd be surprised how much anger and resentment that can make a person have, not that it's any excuse but people often do end up hurting others.
She was the only one that would dare talk to Ben that way and she was the only one who could get through to him
Ciaran Cafferkey Kathy is Ben's mother and "Shirl" is short for Shirley and Shirley used to be Ben's stepmother. Shirley is the one that's sitting across from him and Kathy is next to him
Ciaran Cafferkey Shirley
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Shirley is obsessed with Ben killing heather.
Shirley is actually iconic she couldn't be replaced. The actress plays the character so well.
Same with Phil Mitchell
Those 2 would never be replaced
I love this scene. When Ben says "missed you" to Shirl... I'll admit I teared up. Love their relationship. Love Shirley! My fave Eastender 😍
she looks my nanna rip nanna love u
why did ben say that then?
@@KanonHara just a stab in the dark but... Cos he missed her?
@@MJQueenForever but why did he say it at that specific time , i dont get it
@@KanonHara cos it'd been a long time since they had a heart to heart. He grew up with her being like a mother figure and Hev like an aunt to him. She was/is the only one that gets through to him when he goes off on one. Cos she still cares about him deep down.
In spite of everything, I never saw the character Shirley as a villain, but as a suffering and bitter woman who has already taken a lot in life and that is why today she has such a hard and strong personality. She was definitely never happy
She was happy when she had Heather, when she was with her 😢
Kathy's probably thinking 'hmm, I could try that in the cafe! Chips with cheese on!'
Ben needed a good talking to here! Good for Shirley.
Ben needed a good kick up the backside lol
The only one who could talk sent into Ben was probably Shirley she would stick up for Ben when Phil never did same with Heather even though ben did kill her but he loved her he regrets killing her
beautiful scene between these two ☺
Through this I could tell Shirley still loved Ben and still looked at him as a son
That song in the background fit perfectly
Love this scene.
I miss Harry Reid's Ben. He actually felt like the opposite to Phil while still being his son. The new Ben is just a carbon copy of Phil and is basically just his lapdog.
I agree this Ben is the best Ben
He made him such a complex character!
Harry Reid was the best Ben!
Linda Henry is a real treasure❤️
I love you shirley
Ah, Shirley, Phil has also killed people. He torched the garage under Frank's instructions, which resulted in the death of a transient.
You gotta remember Phil covered up heathers death, by trashing the place, so it looked like someone had broken in or there was a struggle
Wasn’t he also to blame for Dennis’s death?
@@amywonderland9297do you see the comment made at the time of the original comment appearing
More people needed to talk to ben this way
When shirley started talking about Heather I started to cry a little
I love Ben tho sometimes he can go a bit far, like Warren really from hollyoaks he's bad but like bad as in the lion who roars but sometimes can go a bit to far. If that makes any sense
Heartbreaking 💔💔💔💔
I liked this ben
same. i like the current one aswell but sometimes i miss this one
Shirley never hated Ben she just hated what he did. ❤
If someone murdered your best friend, in a fit of rage, wouldn't you be angry? Heather posed no threat at all, he knew what he was doing, that the metal frame would kill her, at full force, he's lucky Shirley didn't kill him, personally, I'd find that harder to forgive, than Dean raping Roxy.
I miss that Ben I want him back
it was a bit wired when Ben said to Shirley that he missed her come on who says that
+Nicci Samson Shirley was a mum to him. Despite what had happened with Hev, he was still close to her.
I love the fact Ben was eating Cheese and Chips because Heather used to bring Ben there. I think that’s why Shirley knew that would get to him. She knew even if he maybe didn’t realise he was doing it, he was remembering Heather in his own way
Shirley was so funny 😂
I love cheese on my chips 2 lol xx
After he killed Heather, I hated Ben! The cold reality is, I'm called Ben! 😬😭😭
Kathy is his mother, shirly is his mum
@Israel McKenzie kathy is the mother, Shirley was the mum. Shirley raised ben as her own.
Amen to that XXXX I completely agree with you on this always have and always will. It's the truth though
your right , much more than sharon even though she was his actual stepmum, shirlry was around in bens critical years , always tried to guide him
so funny he moans bout phil drinking but wake up ben ur own mother pretended she was dead for most of your life
The storyline with him and Phil is so boring now the summer will be dominated by it again
concidring the fact harry never had a scene with heather he is so good in this scene
What a sweet scene. Wish they ended up friends
this actor was the best Ben ,honestly so beleievable as phils son
When you actually realise phill Mitchell when push comes to shove is a good dad
mmmm chessy chips
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Shirley was actually out of line here phil didn't deserve another chance he'd already been given far far more than Ben had been given and this version of Ben was actually trying to turn his life around and be a better person unlike phil so the comparison isn't fair at all phil's already been given second chances and third chances and fourth chances etc etc.
yet he still refused to even try and fight his addiction any longer there comes a point where you have to stop giving second chances and cut the toxic cunt out of your life for your own health and phil was deffo beyond that point during this period in the show.
does anyone know the background song ?
Athlete - Wires
Mobeen Pasha thank you :)
gemma jessica Np :)
ben didn't mean to kill heather he just had a asant
Yes, I have many 'ACCIDENTS' where I clobber someone over the head with a photo frame. He may not have meant to kill her but he meant to cause her harm.
2:17 what’s the song In the background
Athlete -wires
Gemma 55xo nice one
good on her.... How can he sit there and judge his father when he's just a snivering little brat
Leave my son alone
2:38 what does Ben say here?
Darren I thought his Name was Andrew.
Darren is the father for George
I hate Ben he evil and he came to her house to muder her
VEVO Parody he’s some man
FUCK OFF troll, I love Ben!
if I were Ben I would say at least I'm not rapist
What?
s0d100 her son dean
Yeh but it wasn’t Shirley who raped Linda it was dean but Ben killed heather
yeh but thats got nothing to do with shirley, she wasnt even around during deans childhood so she didnt even raise him ,not her fault he turned out the way he did
@freddiemeyer4563 Maybe he turned out that way in part due to the fact he never had a mother. Youd be surprised how much anger and resentment that can make a person have, not that it's any excuse but people often do end up hurting others.
I couldn't even care about Shirley she just one bitter person
Cheese on chips...yuck!
Kevin Prior SOMEONE AGREES!
Tell that to the Canadians they have cheese and chips with gravy- RETCH
Chips and curry is the best
Chips and cheese are the best wha you on bot
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