Thank you for this video! I recall watching the 2019 Stuttgart Worlds uneven bars final and Nastia and Tim both would state how hard it was to do this skill! Not an expert here but China's Liu Tingting's 360 degrees pirouettes were quite nice to look at!
Gymnastics Masterclass Yeah, I’ve been watching you for about three years by now. You really inspired me to learn more about gymnastics and I started my channel because of you.
Drills, drills and more drills! The fast you can let go and grab...the faster the catch and fight gravity!! Mustafina perfection is perfect example! Good luck!
I'm getting confused with some channels uploading videos about the same theme together, like this. I guess I've watched like three videos about 'ring positions' past week. What's not exactly bad, although.
The thing is skills are constantly credited even though they aren't nearly within 10 degrees. Like Suni's 1.5 are 90 degrees off. Almost every gymnast has at least one 0.3 pirouette deduction and the skills are always counted
I still don't get it. So a pirouette is credited only if it's finished within a 10° angle? So besides a deduction, a wider angle makes the element not being credited?
@@gymnasticsmasterclass It really is! Do I lose a pirouette finished at 45° or do I count it towards my D score AND get destroyed on my E score? Anyway, nice video :)
Andrei Dodan the Code only talks about the 10° either side rule in terms of difficulty. One would assume judges would downgrade between 11-90°, but that doesn’t really happen in competition. So, I think the the D-Panel is not affected, just the Execution. Believe me, the Code is not as explicit as it should sometimes
@@gymnasticsmasterclass To be honest, I think at the very least, you should get credit for the pirouette skill until you hit the degrees that get you the .3 deduction. Not that people should chuck skills, but finishing a pirouette between the 10-30 degree range shouldn't really result in the loss of the value of the skill. My assumption is also that if the skill is not credited in a pirouette element, that it would be downgrades by a half a turn (i.e. finishing 1.5 pirouette super late would only get you credit for a full pirouette). This also can effect the intended connection bonus by either not getting the same value or none at all, depending on what the elements being connected are valued at now. I am not a gymnastics expert, but like others have mentioned, I don't feel like I have ever seen anyone really not get the value of the pirouette skill that didn't land within the 10 degrees. For how strict bars is judged (I personally think they are still taking the .1 for turns that are ending in the correct position sometimes), that it would be impossible for people to get credit for most pirouette elements if it only got credited in the scenario where no E deduction is taken on the element.
Mustafina's 2010 stalder 1/1 still gives me chills
Any videos
@@azmadkareem4782 the first skill in this video ua-cam.com/video/CtryJBUwQFU/v-deo.html
I like your clarity and the example of gymnasts you use
Thank you for this video! I recall watching the 2019 Stuttgart Worlds uneven bars final and Nastia and Tim both would state how hard it was to do this skill! Not an expert here but China's Liu Tingting's 360 degrees pirouettes were quite nice to look at!
Great video! Your editing is so good and you seem to know so much. How do you know all of this?
I’ve been doing videos for so many years now and I study the code of points :)
Gymnastics Masterclass Yeah, I’ve been watching you for about three years by now. You really inspired me to learn more about gymnastics and I started my channel because of you.
Gym Insider thank you so much ❤️ best of luck
QPHashSS77 What do you mean by how?
@@gymnasticsmasterclass were you ever a gymnast? Or a true fan who wanted to learn all you could.?
You're just telling me how much I need to work on mine😂😂😂
Savannah Peirce save all those tenths girl, I got you 😂💪🏽
@@gymnasticsmasterclass 😂thanks
Drills, drills and more drills! The fast you can let go and grab...the faster the catch and fight gravity!! Mustafina perfection is perfect example! Good luck!
@@jojox9791 thanks!
Ashton Locklear is the queen of no deduction.
thank you! very useful video
I'm getting confused with some channels uploading videos about the same theme together, like this.
I guess I've watched like three videos about 'ring positions' past week. What's not exactly bad, although.
You are sooo amazing that u know all this
Please put Ono, Liya, Ling piroutte
awesome!
The thing is skills are constantly credited even though they aren't nearly within 10 degrees. Like Suni's 1.5 are 90 degrees off. Almost every gymnast has at least one 0.3 pirouette deduction and the skills are always counted
I still don't get it. So a pirouette is credited only if it's finished within a 10° angle? So besides a deduction, a wider angle makes the element not being credited?
Unfortunately the code is far from clear in that aspect
@@gymnasticsmasterclass It really is! Do I lose a pirouette finished at 45° or do I count it towards my D score AND get destroyed on my E score?
Anyway, nice video :)
Andrei Dodan the Code only talks about the 10° either side rule in terms of difficulty. One would assume judges would downgrade between 11-90°, but that doesn’t really happen in competition. So, I think the the D-Panel is not affected, just the Execution. Believe me, the Code is not as explicit as it should sometimes
@@gymnasticsmasterclass Agree, I don't think I ever saw a pirouette being downgraded for it's angle
@@gymnasticsmasterclass To be honest, I think at the very least, you should get credit for the pirouette skill until you hit the degrees that get you the .3 deduction. Not that people should chuck skills, but finishing a pirouette between the 10-30 degree range shouldn't really result in the loss of the value of the skill. My assumption is also that if the skill is not credited in a pirouette element, that it would be downgrades by a half a turn (i.e. finishing 1.5 pirouette super late would only get you credit for a full pirouette). This also can effect the intended connection bonus by either not getting the same value or none at all, depending on what the elements being connected are valued at now.
I am not a gymnastics expert, but like others have mentioned, I don't feel like I have ever seen anyone really not get the value of the pirouette skill that didn't land within the 10 degrees. For how strict bars is judged (I personally think they are still taking the .1 for turns that are ending in the correct position sometimes), that it would be impossible for people to get credit for most pirouette elements if it only got credited in the scenario where no E deduction is taken on the element.
Serious question. Do the judges use a protractor to determine deductions?
Does the turn have to start from the top of the bar? Sometimes it looks like the pirouette is starting before 10 degrees.
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This seems almost impossible to do properly!