I love the effort you went to, especially including a rebuild in the same video. A lot of people just say they might improve something but rarely they do. You talked the walk!
Excellent work! Your eye for design is impeccable, I love how you looked at the seat back and the seat itself and knew how to improve them in such a fluid way. I also really appreciate how you shared your thought process and iterations, mistakes and all! Bravo.
I really appreciated you taking us through the two iterations of the chair. When you were making the first I was wondering if it was going to twist and it did. Good save on version 2. Also, that's some mind bending, complicated angles there in the back rest. Kudos on figuring out that jig!
As a retired furniture maker I have a couple pieces of advice. Make your templates longer for a lead in to the cut. Much less chance of your part kicking back or away. Reduce the exposure of your table saw blade. Otherwise nice work.
Thanks for an informative, honest, well structured video on modern chair making. So many times it's more about learning what not to do rather than what to do. Well done.
Great design--and I tend to agree about chairs. For all the "empty space" around and within them, they really take a lot more lumber than one would expect... and the time required is truly significant. Batching them in sets makes more sense... but it's still a ton of work. I still can't get over my personal fear every time I sit in a chair I built. Solid every time... but I'm always wondering/worrying that it will break, even though I'm double-sure I've over-engineered the joinery!
So true. Chairs have the least amount of joinery surface area and experience far more stressful dynamic load than say, case furniture. It's a wonder they hold together for any length of time at all, especially when folks lean back on two legs.
lovely craftsmanship. Matt Cremona does chair kits, he (like you) realised tables need chairs, but he has done a system where they get made by others and batched out, and then people can buy the kit and assemble.
What a gorgeous piece! I often can't quite wrap my head around how the jigs and sleds work but you're a cleverer man than I! Given all these things you have to consider, I can see why you might say chairs are the highest form of design ... and also expensive to buy...! Useful info to remember as a customer
I like your discussion about pricing chairs ... yes, they are complicated and people struggle to see the value. I like your design. If you land on the final design, I bet some development on your jigs and process would help your efficiency. For example, hold-down clamps would be much faster than double-sided tape. Also making 8 chairs would allow you to make all 16 front legs in one batch, all 16 back legs, etc. You would find efficiencies as you worked through them. Enjoyed the video!
@@dylanbarfieldfurniture well I use it instead of much routering or I router but only for the general rough shape then finish off with the spokeshave. All those curves in your design would be spokeshave. Perfect for chamfering any edges on that seatback too. The part I always like most is the immediate hand shaping process and the least favorite for me is basically what your process was up until that point. Everyone is different though. But the final shaping is the fun part for me but often not as much time as I would like which kind of sucks.
@@dylanbarfieldfurniture also wanted to agree on the profit margin for chairs. I have thought about it for awhile and unless the chair really is production oriented it is hard to sell it under that 1K mark. The quality out of Japan for handmade production chairs now is about 1.5K-2K and those are nice so hard to beat. I am no speedy maker either so it doesn't make sense for me to rush a bunch of chairs. The Pantorouter here would speed things up a bit but still not in a huge way. However a larger old school copy or duplicating milling machine would.
Had time to watch second half. So right about $$ for table v $$ for good chairs. So much more critical work in a chair and there's at least 4 of them if not 6 to 10. No wonder the Japanese sat on floor matts.
Thanks. I'd give it 3.5 stars on the comfort scale. There's only so much comfort a wooden chair can deliver I think. I might make one with a cushion at some stage.
I love the effort you went to, especially including a rebuild in the same video. A lot of people just say they might improve something but rarely they do. You talked the walk!
I really like the way it turned out! And kudos for your determination to make a prototype to learn from!
@@jacosworkshop thanks!
Excellent work! Your eye for design is impeccable, I love how you looked at the seat back and the seat itself and knew how to improve them in such a fluid way. I also really appreciate how you shared your thought process and iterations, mistakes and all! Bravo.
Thank you. It's definitely a process, and I unfortunately learn from mistakes!
I really appreciated you taking us through the two iterations of the chair. When you were making the first I was wondering if it was going to twist and it did. Good save on version 2. Also, that's some mind bending, complicated angles there in the back rest. Kudos on figuring out that jig!
Thanks! Yeah it was a bit of a brain bender. Still some kinks to iron out but getting close
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Excellent design process!
@@dylanmorris6560 thanks!
As a retired furniture maker I have a couple pieces of advice. Make your templates longer for a lead in to the cut. Much less chance of your part kicking back or away. Reduce the exposure of your table saw blade. Otherwise nice work.
Wise advice. Thank you for sharing your insight.
Thanks for an informative, honest, well structured video on modern chair making. So many times it's more about learning what not to do rather than what to do. Well done.
Cheers. Yes thats very true, and then it's remembering to not do that thing next time
Great design--and I tend to agree about chairs. For all the "empty space" around and within them, they really take a lot more lumber than one would expect... and the time required is truly significant. Batching them in sets makes more sense... but it's still a ton of work.
I still can't get over my personal fear every time I sit in a chair I built. Solid every time... but I'm always wondering/worrying that it will break, even though I'm double-sure I've over-engineered the joinery!
@@joelwinter4956 haha, I know what you mean
So true. Chairs have the least amount of joinery surface area and experience far more stressful dynamic load than say, case furniture. It's a wonder they hold together for any length of time at all, especially when folks lean back on two legs.
lovely craftsmanship. Matt Cremona does chair kits, he (like you) realised tables need chairs, but he has done a system where they get made by others and batched out, and then people can buy the kit and assemble.
What a gorgeous piece! I often can't quite wrap my head around how the jigs and sleds work but you're a cleverer man than I! Given all these things you have to consider, I can see why you might say chairs are the highest form of design ... and also expensive to buy...! Useful info to remember as a customer
thanks! Yes custom furniture definitely isn't cheap, but will hopefully be a bit more timeless than an ikea piece!
Great work! Excellent chair!
@@thomasmcnamara9685 thanks!
It's truly a beautiful chair. One of these days I'd like to make a chair of my own.
I like your discussion about pricing chairs ... yes, they are complicated and people struggle to see the value. I like your design. If you land on the final design, I bet some development on your jigs and process would help your efficiency. For example, hold-down clamps would be much faster than double-sided tape. Also making 8 chairs would allow you to make all 16 front legs in one batch, all 16 back legs, etc. You would find efficiencies as you worked through them. Enjoyed the video!
Thank you. Yes I've been thinking a lot about ways of speeding things up, definitely making jigs to avoid double sided tape would help!
A nice spokeshave is awesome and the process of using it is enjoyable.
@@speciesofspaces I definitely enjoy spokeshaving, I'm not sure how I'd make use of one on the project though
@@dylanbarfieldfurniture well I use it instead of much routering or I router but only for the general rough shape then finish off with the spokeshave. All those curves in your design would be spokeshave. Perfect for chamfering any edges on that seatback too. The part I always like most is the immediate hand shaping process and the least favorite for me is basically what your process was up until that point. Everyone is different though. But the final shaping is the fun part for me but often not as much time as I would like which kind of sucks.
@@dylanbarfieldfurniture also wanted to agree on the profit margin for chairs. I have thought about it for awhile and unless the chair really is production oriented it is hard to sell it under that 1K mark. The quality out of Japan for handmade production chairs now is about 1.5K-2K and those are nice so hard to beat. I am no speedy maker either so it doesn't make sense for me to rush a bunch of chairs. The Pantorouter here would speed things up a bit but still not in a huge way. However a larger old school copy or duplicating milling machine would.
Had time to watch second half. So right about $$ for table v $$ for good chairs. So much more critical work in a chair and there's at least 4 of them if not 6 to 10. No wonder the Japanese sat on floor matts.
Looks good
Awesome chair 😊
Beautiful chair. Is it comfortable?
Thanks. I'd give it 3.5 stars on the comfort scale. There's only so much comfort a wooden chair can deliver I think. I might make one with a cushion at some stage.
Guess cross bracing the bottom half part of the chair might help
dont sell yourself short bro, this IS a $1200 chair.
Thanks! Just have to find people willing to pay that much....
@ someone is going to do it the first time, for both of us, then again and again. Don’t worry, I it will come
What tablesaw do you use?
@@hugoraphael429 it's a brand called hafco. It's a rebadge of Axminsters in the UK, not sure it sells in the US as anything.
chairs are a tough sell because they take a lot and people can buy them cheap places, it's hard to get what they're worth,
@@oliver299d yep, unfortunately. You can buy pretty nice chairs for half the price of what I'd be able to make them for.