I'm on tour with my band The Darkness right now in the UK & Europe - if you fancy coming to see me live you can get tickets here: www.thedarknesslive.com/tour-dates/
When you return, can you start work on the next Night at the Opera album PT2 ? You are about capable of nearly pulling this off, we need epic compositions, operatic glory and harmonised heavy guitar back! Stop promoting these Autotune robots who have an armada of songwriters behind them. The extinction of real rock music is waning and you Mr.Hawkins...can resurrect it!
While that is true, the original demo they recorded had "ooh" and "aah" in place of "whoa" and "yeah" in the chorus. Needless to say it didn't have quite the same impact 🤣🤣
Man, I love it when someone is really knowledgeable about something and also a really great story teller. What a genuine pleasure it is to listen to this man ramble on about music
The band that sticks out in my mind for most WOAH's sprinkled through near every song is The Offspring. So much so that NOFX wrote a song about it called "Whoa On The Whoas" Lol
Oooooo you beat me to it!! "Between AFI and the Offspring, I don't think we need anymore WHooOOAAS" ..yea they already touched on this subject and they didn't have to eat up 10mins of precious life to do it.
I love the whoa in The Trooper cause even if it's sustained (like in that Coldplay song) it's so full of passion and energy you can't help but sing along
This guy respects his audience, he can simplify music and make it funnier, an excellent educational source because he has got all of the required ingredients: Vocalist, instrumentalist and the spirit of the old school
@@fd9717 I think he's saying he doesn't quite like their music and is being a bit cheeky. They don't respect their audience by putting their songs out.
It's fine .. we know the difference between musicians.. and all the noise that's been produced now days . This is quite possibly the best channel on UA-cam.. correct me if I'm wrong.. but we don't have great musicians getting this close to the fans and being real . Keep it up !
I love these videos. Justin can play everything by ear (I assume), and he explains things in a simple way that explains to people what music is about and what makes it connect with people. Also, The Darkness are a criminally underrated band, especially in the States. Justin's vocal range needs to be in the discussion when we talk of great rock singers (or just singers).
Woah means "stop" to horses. In literature it functions to say, "stop and listen to this really important thing I'm about to say, because you're just a passenger on this crazy wagon train." - Wordsmith
I love this kind of videos, feels like we were chatting in the living room or something about something funny but deep at the same time about music, those details that make them richer. I really enjoyed it, thanks Justin, for the videos and the music :)
Hey Justin. I found your channel a couple weeks ago and have been watching since. Id like to let you know that you are one of the reasons I play guitar. I believe in a thing called love had such an impact on me at like 20 yrs old when it came out its hard to say. Its literally the first riff I play on every guitar I touch. Its what i play to warm up my hands. It's what I play when I'm just noodling to have a guitar in my hands. I test amps and pedals with it. I know if my guitar is out if tune by playing it. Thank you and the band for that one.
Indie Rock/Pop really is my fave kind of music, but the gratuitous whoah-ing (especially when performed by, like, a small choir) really is the telltale sign of a band and/or producer bereft of original ideas, going for the cheap, transparent effect. It's default mode for the very worst bands and artists of the genre and it has been one of my pet hates for some time. Indie used to be the box where you put the weird stuff that did not fit anywhere else. Indie was synonymous with original, arty, bright, witty, scruffy, unruly, aware... too many bands/artists that tick NONE of these boxes and only retread a tired formula and play it safe are today sadly being perceived as what constitutes indie - when in fact they represent the very opposite.
You're right, "indie" music has become every bit as formulaic and paint-by-numbers and mind-bogglingly awful as the worst FM Pop Hits of the 80s. So much so that if a band I don't know is known as "indie" (sometimes by no fault of their own) I immediately don't like them and they're REALLY going to have to show me something cool to get me to change my mind. That's not fair but it's true.
I'd argue the coldplay woah is the most memorable part of the song (which doesnt come in til post chorus 2...or a bridge if you will) and almost needed because the chorus is memorable though wordy so the bridge woah is used as a counterpoint to the wordy chorus that is solid on its own...but the song definitely needs a singable part...hence woooooahhhhhhoooooohhh woooooahhhoooooohhhhh I'd consider the lumineer's style "hey!" much worse in that vein.
Yeah, 'Clocks' too (although I assumed the simple chorus in that song was partially so Chris can sing and play the piano riff at the same time when performing it live)
When you talk to anyone after a Coldplay gig, ask them about was most memorable, they all say the lightshow and glitter bomb at the end, its never the music. Remember Coldplay was designed for Car Adverts and Bedwhetters :D
@Kyle Brian - I agree with you there, in regards to "most memorable". But also: He (their drummer) doesn't actually sing "Woah" but just "Oh"! 😄 At least according to the Internet 🙂
As soon as he said Imagine Dragons, I immediately started singing the hook for Radioactive in my head. “They seem like a band with woahs.” - Yes. Yes they are.
"That [Imagine Dragons] seems like a band that would have a 'whoa'...just because...you know..." - Justin perfectly summing up the banality of today's popular music
@@mdg1867 he seems to be doing OK without resorting to that kind of nonsense. It's a shock to many people, but lots of musicians are just happy to make a living playing what they really want to play, and their egos don't always require being at the top of the stoopid fucking charts of the most mindless shit imaginable.
Kurt Cobain was the master of the “hey” and “yeah” imo. Heart Shaped Box, Lithium, Teen Spirit, Territorial Pissing, even if you don’t know a single lyric to any of these songs, you can still sing along to the heys and the yeahs. And it never sounded too poppy either and maintains a lot of the heaviness of the rest of the song, which is something I think is really hard to do with that kind of hook motif in a non-pop tune.
Hey Justin! I would love to see you do one about guitar solos. Is a simple solo better or a super fast shred. Personally I like simple but “ with feeling” Gary moor type thing. That would be ace. Cheers.
The ‘millennial whoop’ woah is pretty prevalent in 2010’s pop music. It’d be interesting to hear your thoughts on that particular woah Justin. Great content by the way!
Great stuff Justin. Two cracking woah intros for you - kung fu fighting by Carl Douglas and since you been gone Graham Bonnet in Rainbow. In fact they are almost interchangeable- what a mash up that would be! Some woahs are punctuation- I am sure Dave Lee Roth uses them when he speaks normally.
The Coldplay one comes back down again to the root so in my head it just wants to loop coz I don't know the next bit. The bon Jovi one is transitional, it takes you up to the next bit. I feel like the woah should be simple and carry you to the next bit, it's a propellant. Don't be a deflating balloon darting around everywhere like the Coldplay one. I've always preferred the "woo" though. Throw in a "WOO" before a chorus or a solo and I'm sold
I think there’s a big difference in how Bon Jovi or Aerosmith use the “whoa” and the way Chris Martin used it. The former use it as a guttural exclamation or punctuation. Coldplay uses it as a full on melodic line. I don’t think they really intended it to have the same kind of punch as the former two. You sort of alluded to that. Do you reckon Coldplay should have used a different interjection or sound? Anyway, nice, fun channel. Thanks.
@ghost mall He's analyzing the two woahs in a singular way, when in my opinion they convey two very different expressions in their respective song. If all the "complex" vocal lines of this 'category' were bad, then the yeahs in Nirvana's lithium for example would be bad as well, and they are surely not. It's just an artistic decision, don't see how you can simply say one is better than the other in this case. Or at least he could have picked better ones to compare to each other. These have nothing in common and there isn't simply a good or a bad one in my opinion.
@ghost mall Pretending there is objectivity or science in the use of woahs? What? When did i say that? It's only my opinion when i say that the use of the woahs in both songs had probably different artistic purposes to one another. I'm not saying everything i wrote is supposed to be what the artists had in their minds when putting it in the songs. I'm just using a counter argument and opinion to the one he had in the video. Cause to be honest he was the one who seemed really convinced when he said that the Bon Jovi one was better than the Coldplay when to be honest it's just an unfair comparison, given the points he made. Even if he likes one better or not.
Woah, this seems like a heavy discussion for such a light-hearted video about woah's. But for what it's worth, I'd recommend checking out "Things Can Only Get Better" by Howard Jones. He was king of mastering the almighty Woah.
I'm so -pleased to find your channel! As a fellow Lowestoft chap, and former regular at the Triangle and O'Reillys (where I also worked), hearing you chattering away like this takes me back! Oh, and while more a 'Woo' than a 'Woah', Fortunate Son has several good ones.
It might shock you but if you listen closely In Livin’ on a Prayer…it’s actually Ohhh and not Whoa..Also, i think that the harmony part at the end of Love in an Elevator is absolute perfection .
Loved this video and now that you have me thinking about it, I quite like the woah in Infinite Dreams by Iron Maiden. Every time I listen to the song, the image of Bruce Dickinson falling down an abyss, or an open manhole - comes to mind.
The fabled woah is used as a way to get the audience in synch with the band, and also each other. A little bit surprised you didn't mention this tbh. Absolutely loving the content though, superb. To have these insights from a current working true musician is amazing. Thank you
A great woah that is guaranteed to illicit feelings of both excitement and dread simultaneously is when one’s friend almost drops a tray of beers en route from the bar. I imagine a song that attempts to capture the beer-sodden essence of group pub atmosphere whilst watching someone cautiously bring a tray of beers back would be perfect setting for a singalong wooah hook line ✌️🔥❤️
@@harryburnett7086 Oh it's definitely a good thing! About 1 minute and 30 second into Holy Diver he does it, and in a few live songs too. He's humming but it sounds awesome.
@@isveryniceyes The opening of "I" when he sang for Sabbath immediately popped into my head but that's more of an "ooo", then immediately I thought of "MMMMM-MMMMHMMMM YEAH YEAAAH! HOLY DIVAAAAH!"
This discursion on good woahs vs. bad woahs reminds me of this anecdote, from Ginger Wildheart's tour diary, Saturday 14th February 2004: 'I hear of Jon Bon Jovi having a nasty bite at The Darkness, claiming that he hates the band with a passion. Justin’s reply, is simple but typically classic. "I’m very disappointed to hear that. I wonder what the rest of the cast of Ally McBeal think about it?"' ("I hate The Darkness. They suck," said Jon Bon Jovi in 2004, "They're trying to mimic Spinal Tap." I think this little fit of pique came after Justin described Bon Jovi's show at Hyde Park in June 2003 as "Like a barn dance without the barn. Rubbish.")
@@paulcurtis5317 Hmm, it has a bunch of heys, a few yeah-ehs and a massive ooooh-ooh-ooh-ooh at the end (plus some of the most inane lyrics in rock history), but I don't think there's a single woah in it! ;)
Just discovered your channel, I think it's great, I enjoy your down to earth analysis and as a fellow musician I relate to your opinions, thanks for your time!!
POV: You and Justin Hawkins take a fat bong rip and he goes on an unfiltered rant about music. You watch in awe with nothing to add because he is laying it out so eloquently (also you are very high and his brain is moving at a faster rate than yours). You leave the conversation with a new appreciation for art and artists. This is my experience with your videos lol. Loving them and enjoying the ride. Thank you for beautifully guiding our conversation. :)
What about the death of guitar solos in modern pop music? Not as in pop - pop but - pop as in music in the charts?! You guys brought that back in stylishly! Could be a good discussion
I would absolutely love to hear Wanker being played live, if that was added to setlists that would be phenomenal I love what you do in The Darkness but I sometimes feel like OWTTHAB is underrepresented live, there would be nothing better to honour an album than playing a B-Side from said album! Or something
Some of my fave reccurent words/phrases - 'Woah', 'Baby, 'Honey', 'Castles in the sky', 'If I stumble and I fall', 'Child', 'Woman', 'Sugar', 'Ivory tower'. All ubiquitous but essential in the songs we all love xx
Manic Street Preachers 'Hold me Like a Heaven' - James had the woah in as a placeholder in the chorus to be over-written on final recording by strings. The woah's he considered a cliche but sounded so good they retained it. Woah's 1, Strings 0.
That was the music lesson I've never had before, but for which I am extremely grateful. So thank you Mr Hawkins. What you have just taught me shall not go unused, I promise. Wonderful insight: we are privileged.
Mate this has been on my mind for years, always felt like the recent use of it was cynically trying to be a sort of completely formless earworm than anyone could get stuck in their head, or woah along to. Also trying to ape the feeling of a stadium full of people and have that advert like false epicness. To the point where the imagery that's always conjured in my mind is fucking margerine or loans or hp laptops any time I hear the aimless woah bands.
Can’t beat it in Animal by Def Leppard either. “I need your touch, don’t need your lo-ove! Whoa-oh! Disagree on the Coldplay one. Catchy like a chant really, gathers momentum, creates a bit of excitement into the song leading up to the chorus and such. Also think it’s more of a prolonged string “oh”s too rather than whoa. Used as a melancholy tool within the lyrics as part of a poignant subject matter that the song itself talks about.
Dude I really dig listening to talk about what ever you're talking about at the time. You have a great sense of humor and plus the music critiques are great too. Don't take this the wrong way but you would be awesome with a straight man.
I have the same Harley Benton. It was £50 well spent. I bought it to take camping and after setting it up and putting a hot contact pick up in it became my goto blues guitar
I’m from Australia and worked in Lowestoft in 2007 for a year with the brother of a guy who was in The Darkness, (Andy was his name) and came to discover the band. Loved your stuff. Your videos are thoughtful. My main musical hero came from Lowestoft. Benjamin Britten. Loved also by Jeff Buckley. Worse whoas ever... John Farnham. You’re the Voice. Too many Whoas!
I'm on tour with my band The Darkness right now in the UK & Europe - if you fancy coming to see me live you can get tickets here: www.thedarknesslive.com/tour-dates/
Already saw you at the 02 Bmth xx
I hope you enjoyed your drinks in Reading last night 🍻😉 See you on tour!
I’ve always thought that coldplays use of the gimmick is woah-full
When you return, can you start work on the next Night at the Opera album PT2 ? You are about capable of nearly pulling this off, we need epic compositions, operatic glory and harmonised heavy guitar back! Stop promoting these Autotune robots who have an armada of songwriters behind them.
The extinction of real rock music is waning and you Mr.Hawkins...can resurrect it!
Justin what’s your opinion on the woahs in 3 & 7’s by QOTSA?
“Kickstart My Heart” also has a good “whoa”, plus a good “yea” AND “baby”.
Fuck yeah it does!
Woah yeah baby that's a good song
While that is true, the original demo they recorded had "ooh" and "aah" in place of "whoa" and "yeah" in the chorus. Needless to say it didn't have quite the same impact 🤣🤣
Or if you see it live, "wo, ye, ba!" "ma ha, ma ha! Kih sta mah ha!"
Man, I love it when someone is really knowledgeable about something and also a really great story teller. What a genuine pleasure it is to listen to this man ramble on about music
I agree with you. I am totally hooked.
Agree, would love to hear him do lectures on stuff. I've never listened so intently
The band that sticks out in my mind for most WOAH's sprinkled through near every song is The Offspring.
So much so that NOFX wrote a song about it called "Whoa On The Whoas" Lol
Oooooo you beat me to it!! "Between AFI and the Offspring, I don't think we need anymore WHooOOAAS"
..yea they already touched on this subject and they didn't have to eat up 10mins of precious life to do it.
Haha Fat Mike sardonic as ever 😃
Misfits are the root of all your woahs
Woahoffspring.....yuck music anyways
@@justinw6670 First three offspring records are excellent, but yeah went downhill after that
I love the whoa in The Trooper cause even if it's sustained (like in that Coldplay song) it's so full of passion and energy you can't help but sing along
Howard Jones harnessed the almighty Woah perfectly in "Things Can Only Get Better" (1985)
Totally awesome channel Justin, I never really thought about this too much, I will now be noticing ‘Woah’s’ everywhere I go.
This guy respects his audience, he can simplify music and make it funnier, an excellent educational source because he has got all of the required ingredients: Vocalist, instrumentalist and the spirit of the old school
Respects his audience? Have you heard the records that The Darkness made? They certainly didn’t respect their audience!
@@SlinkiestTortoise23 Well, I could not get it, explain to me?
@@SlinkiestTortoise23 I think I know what you're referring to, but could you clarify?
@@SlightlyWetFart Can you explain to me what is he referring to?😂
@@fd9717 I think he's saying he doesn't quite like their music and is being a bit cheeky. They don't respect their audience by putting their songs out.
That John Byrnes Band song, When the sky starts to fall, great woahs all over that one
I just assumed people were riding horses around the studio while recording and occasionally required the horse to stop.
But your theory is fine too.
very good sir 😅
It's fine .. we know the difference between musicians.. and all the noise that's been produced now days . This is quite possibly the best channel on UA-cam.. correct me if I'm wrong.. but we don't have great musicians getting this close to the fans and being real . Keep it up !
A lot of great musicians do regular live streams nowadays, like Sungha Jung, Herman Li and Tim Henson, off the top of my head.
Leland Sklar's channel is pretty awesome, too.
I'm not here to dispute anything but if you like musical break downs etc, I think you'll like this channel. Enjoy : ua-cam.com/users/wingsofpegasusTV
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Rush’s “Finding My Way” starts with an epic “yeah, woah yeah!” It’s hauntingly beautiful. :-)
I love these videos. Justin can play everything by ear (I assume), and he explains things in a simple way that explains to people what music is about and what makes it connect with people. Also, The Darkness are a criminally underrated band, especially in the States. Justin's vocal range needs to be in the discussion when we talk of great rock singers (or just singers).
Love how, on the fly, he figured out the key to unlock the mystery of a good woah. The fader test is a pretty brilliant way to put it.
Never realised how hilarious Justin is. Also, he'd make a great secondary school music teacher!
My new favorite channel!
This is nonsense which makes absolute sense, I love it. The fader test is genius
"The woahs can go either way." Yes, they can. Love your analysis of the lyrical hook, mnemonic device, otherwise known as "woah."
We are more into the “YEAHS”
This channel is brilliant!
The "woaahhhhhhh" in the Beastie Boys' "Sabotage" lasts a good 8 seconds. Epic "whoa".
Woah means "stop" to horses. In literature it functions to say, "stop and listen to this really important thing I'm about to say, because you're just a passenger on this crazy wagon train." - Wordsmith
Love the Starship T-shirt!! And the channel!
Same.
Damn, I’d actually LOVE to hear The Darkness do a cover of Livin’ On A Prayer. Justin would MURDER those vocals.
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I fear that he would, too! 😬
As long as he got Tommy's name right
I love this kind of videos, feels like we were chatting in the living room or something about something funny but deep at the same time about music, those details that make them richer.
I really enjoyed it, thanks Justin, for the videos and the music :)
Hey Justin. I found your channel a couple weeks ago and have been watching since. Id like to let you know that you are one of the reasons I play guitar. I believe in a thing called love had such an impact on me at like 20 yrs old when it came out its hard to say. Its literally the first riff I play on every guitar I touch. Its what i play to warm up my hands. It's what I play when I'm just noodling to have a guitar in my hands. I test amps and pedals with it. I know if my guitar is out if tune by playing it. Thank you and the band for that one.
I don't know that Justin could stop being entertaining, no matter how hard he tried.
I reckon we’ve done a good “Woah!” In our song “Into The Fire” exactly how Justin described what makes a good “Woah!
Fader Test is the name of my band. Well it is now.
The very best of course, being "WOAH YEEAAAAAAH" to kick off Skid Row's Youth Gone Wild.
The Misfits and Danzig are the master of whoa's and gang vocals in general. Danzig himself, always gets me hyped with a good YEAHH.
Theres a hand full of good ones in this... ua-cam.com/video/zhKBPQ-Oqd8/v-deo.html
@@BandOfHarjaps ua-cam.com/video/9qO1MFlljds/v-deo.html is my favorite. that guitar tone of the first album, so good.
Absolutely!
This is my new favorite channel. You’re insightful and hilarious
Indie Rock/Pop really is my fave kind of music, but the gratuitous whoah-ing (especially when performed by, like, a small choir) really is the telltale sign of a band and/or producer bereft of original ideas, going for the cheap, transparent effect. It's default mode for the very worst bands and artists of the genre and it has been one of my pet hates for some time.
Indie used to be the box where you put the weird stuff that did not fit anywhere else. Indie was synonymous with original, arty, bright, witty, scruffy, unruly, aware... too many bands/artists that tick NONE of these boxes and only retread a tired formula and play it safe are today sadly being perceived as what constitutes indie - when in fact they represent the very opposite.
You're right, "indie" music has become every bit as formulaic and paint-by-numbers and mind-bogglingly awful as the worst FM Pop Hits of the 80s. So much so that if a band I don't know is known as "indie" (sometimes by no fault of their own) I immediately don't like them and they're REALLY going to have to show me something cool to get me to change my mind. That's not fair but it's true.
@@dogslobbergardens6606 Indie findie, whatever, just musicians all dealing with what to do with twelve notes, end of story.
@ghost mall still an amazing album
World of Woahcraft! Great video! :)
I'd argue the coldplay woah is the most memorable part of the song (which doesnt come in til post chorus 2...or a bridge if you will) and almost needed because the chorus is memorable though wordy so the bridge woah is used as a counterpoint to the wordy chorus that is solid on its own...but the song definitely needs a singable part...hence woooooahhhhhhoooooohhh woooooahhhoooooohhhhh
I'd consider the lumineer's style "hey!" much worse in that vein.
Yeah, 'Clocks' too (although I assumed the simple chorus in that song was partially so Chris can sing and play the piano riff at the same time when performing it live)
When you talk to anyone after a Coldplay gig, ask them about was most memorable, they all say the lightshow and glitter bomb at the end, its never the music. Remember Coldplay was designed for Car Adverts and Bedwhetters :D
Once again I'm on zero days without Coldplay.
Fuck's sake.
@Kyle Brian - I agree with you there, in regards to "most memorable". But also: He (their drummer) doesn't actually sing "Woah" but just "Oh"! 😄 At least according to the Internet 🙂
I had completely forgotten about The Lumineers till I read your comment. I wish I could go back.
Woah! Cool T-Shirt! 🤩👍
As soon as he said Imagine Dragons, I immediately started singing the hook for Radioactive in my head. “They seem like a band with woahs.” - Yes. Yes they are.
"That [Imagine Dragons] seems like a band that would have a 'whoa'...just because...you know..."
- Justin perfectly summing up the banality of today's popular music
I don't get why he didn't apply the knowledge that he clearly has to his own career.
@@mdg1867 Integrity.
@@mdg1867 he seems to be doing OK without resorting to that kind of nonsense.
It's a shock to many people, but lots of musicians are just happy to make a living playing what they really want to play, and their egos don't always require being at the top of the stoopid fucking charts of the most mindless shit imaginable.
@@postworld1185 How so?
Kurt Cobain was the master of the “hey” and “yeah” imo. Heart Shaped Box, Lithium, Teen Spirit, Territorial Pissing, even if you don’t know a single lyric to any of these songs, you can still sing along to the heys and the yeahs. And it never sounded too poppy either and maintains a lot of the heaviness of the rest of the song, which is something I think is really hard to do with that kind of hook motif in a non-pop tune.
Indeed, one of the many things he was the master of.
Hey Justin! I would love to see you do one about guitar solos. Is a simple solo better or a super fast shred. Personally I like simple but “ with feeling” Gary moor type thing. That would be ace. Cheers.
"Contemplate this...on the tree of Who-ah."
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I read this in James Earl Jones' voice lmao
Crom laughs at you from his mountain and approves of this post! lol
This response thread will, ultimately, solve The Riddle of Whoa. 😉😂
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Friends don't let friends 'woah' in the recording studio without a well structured song around it
Queen has a cool "Woah Yeah" in their song "One Vision". But you can always count on Queen to handle the poison chalice of woah properly every time.
They also introduced the world to FRIED CHICKEN so sad it didn’t catch on
@@jflorez09 they also have the line two tits John Deacon
This is like a chat with my mate. love this channel.
The ‘millennial whoop’ woah is pretty prevalent in 2010’s pop music. It’d be interesting to hear your thoughts on that particular woah Justin. Great content by the way!
Great stuff Justin, loving hearing your take on stuff. I’m not sure about whoa’s, but I’ve noticed the over use of Na Na’s in recent years.
I like this fella
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I'm so glad I stumbled upon your channel; I love these videos, and it has made me rediscover The Darkness.
Thanks Mr. Hawkins!
“The whoa is a poison chalice” fuckin gold lol
Word.
There's a song, right there 🎵
One of the best conversationalists on youtube
Great stuff Justin. Two cracking woah intros for you - kung fu fighting by Carl Douglas and since you been gone Graham Bonnet in Rainbow. In fact they are almost interchangeable- what a mash up that would be! Some woahs are punctuation- I am sure Dave Lee Roth uses them when he speaks normally.
Plus I don't believe "Everybody" was kung Fu fighting, at least not all at the same time.
Keane Reeves too…
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Oh my.......surely the WOAH in Rainbow's "Since You've Been Gone" is the mother of all WOAHS?
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@@melvoid01 Believe, in '74 EVERYBODY was literally king fu fighting ALL THE TIME.
Ahh happy days :)
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The Coldplay one comes back down again to the root so in my head it just wants to loop coz I don't know the next bit. The bon Jovi one is transitional, it takes you up to the next bit. I feel like the woah should be simple and carry you to the next bit, it's a propellant. Don't be a deflating balloon darting around everywhere like the Coldplay one.
I've always preferred the "woo" though. Throw in a "WOO" before a chorus or a solo and I'm sold
Biffy Clyro have some tremendous woahs - the captain and many of horror are both good examples imo.
I thought of one of their new ones, A Hunger In Your Heart. The 'woah' is my least favourite part of the song - and I still like it
haha...this shit cracked me up....nice one mate...are you friends with Brother Bill Fisher from COTCS?
Justin Hawkins, please set up a dialogue with this man, if you haven't already? Such an amazing and passionate guitar player.
I've always felt you're up there with McCartney as far as melodists go, Justin. AKA: Captain Hook.
What a gig in reading last night
Cheers guys..didn't get any sleep last night for darkness songs rattling around my head🤘
I think there’s a big difference in how Bon Jovi or Aerosmith use the “whoa” and the way Chris Martin used it. The former use it as a guttural exclamation or punctuation. Coldplay uses it as a full on melodic line. I don’t think they really intended it to have the same kind of punch as the former two. You sort of alluded to that. Do you reckon Coldplay should have used a different interjection or sound? Anyway, nice, fun channel. Thanks.
Yeah exactly, two totally different things. Honestly this video doesn't make that much sense to me because of that.
@ghost mall He's analyzing the two woahs in a singular way, when in my opinion they convey two very different expressions in their respective song.
If all the "complex" vocal lines of this 'category' were bad, then the yeahs in Nirvana's lithium for example would be bad as well, and they are surely not. It's just an artistic decision, don't see how you can simply say one is better than the other in this case. Or at least he could have picked better ones to compare to each other. These have nothing in common and there isn't simply a good or a bad one in my opinion.
@ghost mall Pretending there is objectivity or science in the use of woahs? What? When did i say that? It's only my opinion when i say that the use of the woahs in both songs had probably different artistic purposes to one another. I'm not saying everything i wrote is supposed to be what the artists had in their minds when putting it in the songs. I'm just using a counter argument and opinion to the one he had in the video. Cause to be honest he was the one who seemed really convinced when he said that the Bon Jovi one was better than the Coldplay when to be honest it's just an unfair comparison, given the points he made. Even if he likes one better or not.
Woah, this seems like a heavy discussion for such a light-hearted video about woah's. But for what it's worth, I'd recommend checking out "Things Can Only Get Better" by Howard Jones. He was king of mastering the almighty Woah.
I'm so -pleased to find your channel! As a fellow Lowestoft chap, and former regular at the Triangle and O'Reillys (where I also worked), hearing you chattering away like this takes me back!
Oh, and while more a 'Woo' than a 'Woah', Fortunate Son has several good ones.
Jokerman by Bob Dylan has some cracking woahs on the chorus.
It might shock you but if you listen closely In Livin’ on a Prayer…it’s actually Ohhh and not Whoa..Also, i think that the harmony part at the end of Love in an Elevator is absolute perfection .
@Dale hi Dale, i think you’ll find the second one is Oh as well. I was surprised to hear it when I listened to the isolated tracks…lol
Loved this video and now that you have me thinking about it, I quite like the woah in Infinite Dreams by Iron Maiden. Every time I listen to the song, the image of Bruce Dickinson falling down an abyss, or an open manhole - comes to mind.
Heaven Can Wait has an entire song section of Whoah.
More Whoah than a .Keanu Reeves convention….
@@j_freed The Wickerman is also quite similar in this respect
The fabled woah is used as a way to get the audience in synch with the band, and also each other. A little bit surprised you didn't mention this tbh.
Absolutely loving the content though, superb. To have these insights from a current working true musician is amazing. Thank you
A great woah that is guaranteed to illicit feelings of both excitement and dread simultaneously is when one’s friend almost drops a tray of beers en route from the bar. I imagine a song that attempts to capture the beer-sodden essence of group pub atmosphere whilst watching someone cautiously bring a tray of beers back would be perfect setting for a singalong wooah hook line ✌️🔥❤️
He's wearing his Starship T Shirt! I bloody love his Starship T Shirt.
Sounds like this guy just like older music better...
so love this channel and as a musician and music writer myself it's so relatable. keep it up 'The Jussmeister'
I'm more of a fan of the hum that Dio did a lot. It's like a powerful "woah" with his mouth closed.
What you mean DIO explain , is that a good comment about DIO or bad
@@harryburnett7086 Oh it's definitely a good thing! About 1 minute and 30 second into Holy Diver he does it, and in a few live songs too. He's humming but it sounds awesome.
@@isveryniceyes The opening of "I" when he sang for Sabbath immediately popped into my head but that's more of an "ooo", then immediately I thought of "MMMMM-MMMMHMMMM YEAH YEAAAH! HOLY DIVAAAAH!"
"he's saying stuff into a tube - nobody knows what it is" XD
This discursion on good woahs vs. bad woahs reminds me of this anecdote, from Ginger Wildheart's tour diary, Saturday 14th February 2004: 'I hear of Jon Bon Jovi having a nasty bite at The Darkness, claiming that he hates the band with a passion. Justin’s reply, is simple but typically classic. "I’m very disappointed to hear that. I wonder what the rest of the cast of Ally McBeal think about it?"'
("I hate The Darkness. They suck," said Jon Bon Jovi in 2004, "They're trying to mimic Spinal Tap." I think this little fit of pique came after Justin described Bon Jovi's show at Hyde Park in June 2003 as "Like a barn dance without the barn. Rubbish.")
And the reality is that The Darkness are in a *completely* different league than Bon Jovi.
Not a Bon Jovi hater, but c'mon.
It's Tommy. Tommy used to work on the docks... 😁 Thank you for all that you do, Justin! Love your channel!
Motlëy Crüe 'Kickstart My Heart' has a huge Wo-ah!!! & I'm sure Def Leppard has afew! 👍🏻👍🏻
A 'woah', a 'yeah' and a 'baby' in order...
Pour some sugar on me has lots of woah
@@paulcurtis5317 Hmm, it has a bunch of heys, a few yeah-ehs and a massive ooooh-ooh-ooh-ooh at the end (plus some of the most inane lyrics in rock history), but I don't think there's a single woah in it! ;)
But that's "OH YEAH BAAAAABYYY!"
Not oh woo oh woo oh woo oh woo times a gillion.
Just discovered your channel, I think it's great, I enjoy your down to earth analysis and as a fellow musician I relate to your opinions, thanks for your time!!
Thanks!
I feel like pop punk really drove 'woahhs' into the ground, that California album by Blink 182 uses every woah melody cliche in the book 🤣
Just as I'm searching for something to watch over dinner. Hero.
It's Tommy. Not Johnny.
POV: You and Justin Hawkins take a fat bong rip and he goes on an unfiltered rant about music. You watch in awe with nothing to add because he is laying it out so eloquently (also you are very high and his brain is moving at a faster rate than yours). You leave the conversation with a new appreciation for art and artists.
This is my experience with your videos lol. Loving them and enjoying the ride. Thank you for beautifully guiding our conversation. :)
What about the death of guitar solos in modern pop music? Not as in pop - pop but - pop as in music in the charts?! You guys brought that back in stylishly! Could be a good discussion
My favorite random callout will always be James Hetfield occasionally shouting "YEAH"
I would absolutely love to hear Wanker being played live, if that was added to setlists that would be phenomenal
I love what you do in The Darkness but I sometimes feel like OWTTHAB is underrepresented live, there would be nothing better to honour an album than playing a B-Side from said album! Or something
Some of my fave reccurent words/phrases - 'Woah', 'Baby, 'Honey', 'Castles in the sky', 'If I stumble and I fall', 'Child', 'Woman', 'Sugar', 'Ivory tower'. All ubiquitous but essential in the songs we all love xx
Don't forget 'TONIIIIIEEEAAYYYEEEIIIIGHT!!'
@@meadish How did I forget that?!?! *shakes head*
Manic Street Preachers 'Hold me Like a Heaven' - James had the woah in as a placeholder in the chorus to be over-written on final recording by strings. The woah's he considered a cliche but sounded so good they retained it. Woah's 1, Strings 0.
But they suck and support censorship, slavery, and mass murder
That was the music lesson I've never had before, but for which I am extremely grateful. So thank you Mr Hawkins.
What you have just taught me shall not go unused, I promise.
Wonderful insight: we are privileged.
That's why I love the woah in Givin' Up as only fans of The Darkness know the exact timing 😂
It’s not a woah, but I’ve always been a fan of the ‘wooooooo’ in Is It Just Me? especially as we get to see it written down.
Mate this has been on my mind for years, always felt like the recent use of it was cynically trying to be a sort of completely formless earworm than anyone could get stuck in their head, or woah along to. Also trying to ape the feeling of a stadium full of people and have that advert like false epicness. To the point where the imagery that's always conjured in my mind is fucking margerine or loans or hp laptops any time I hear the aimless woah bands.
Can’t beat it in Animal by Def Leppard either. “I need your touch, don’t need your lo-ove! Whoa-oh!
Disagree on the Coldplay one. Catchy like a chant really, gathers momentum, creates a bit of excitement into the song leading up to the chorus and such. Also think it’s more of a prolonged string “oh”s too rather than whoa. Used as a melancholy tool within the lyrics as part of a poignant subject matter that the song itself talks about.
This is the greatest video in UA-cam history
Dude I really dig listening to talk about what ever you're talking about at the time. You have a great sense of humor and plus the music critiques are great too. Don't take this the wrong way but you would be awesome with a straight man.
The "whoa" is vocal instrumentation and also reflects that pop music is vocal dominant
I have the same Harley Benton. It was £50 well spent. I bought it to take camping and after setting it up and putting a hot contact pick up in it became my goto blues guitar
Best Woah ever...Peter Frampton coming out of the talk box solo going into the ending of Do You Feel live.
The Kids Aren't Alright - The Offspring, a banger of a woah!
I know it's intended as a sort of Living On A Prayer pastiche but that one what you done with Steel Panther was a good whoa. WHOA-OH-OH-HEY HEY HEY
Keep these videos up, some great insights. Would be great to see you lock horns with Rick Beato on here some day!
That would be brilliant not matter what happens.
I really didn't expect to watch this whole video
Feeling a moment by Feeder. Couldn't tell you the next line after the woos
"Whoa there."
-Howard Moon
I’m from Australia and worked in Lowestoft in 2007 for a year with the brother of a guy who was in The Darkness, (Andy was his name) and came to discover the band. Loved your stuff. Your videos are thoughtful. My main musical hero came from Lowestoft. Benjamin Britten. Loved also by Jeff Buckley. Worse whoas ever... John Farnham. You’re the Voice. Too many Whoas!
But have you missed the point? I can't help feeling that Farnsies 'Whoas' would pass the fade test.
WOAH!!!! genius, 10 minutes on WOAHs...but makes so much sense!!! Genius
But I know you sung along to the woah-ohs in Europe's Rock The Night.