To answer the question in the title: no. You hold your own standards. It is not for others to decide for you. Your choices in life are yours, as are your responsibility and the consequences of your actions. Everyone is someone's mother, father, or child. Every life and death is meaningful and of equal worth. Just my opinion.
It seems to me that this is a false argument, making it about mothers' versus fathers' responsibility to their spouse and children. I see it as a misunderstanding of the purpose of life and marriage and family. We did not create ourselves. The strong feelings around the unnecessary loss of a spouse and parent reflect the heart and soul's longing for something larger than ourselves and our earthly pursuits. Every person has free will. Our current modern lives give many of us choices unimaginable to our forebears - especially our female forebears! Those who are left behind, those who will not be brought into the world, the next generation who will not know or have the emotional and material assistance of the deceased, these are matters to consider as well.
I truly appreciate your comment, and agree with you on all counts. Thank you for watching! Ultimately, the decision is an answer to some severe troll comments that were hugely critical of Hilaree. I was not pleased with it, and essentially answered to those obtuse criticisms.
Yes, absolutely....this was essentially in response to the idea that women are faced with much harsher scrutiny. It should be equal. Thanks for watching!
Women have different pressures than men. People all over the world are used to men dying away from home. Men have gone off to hunt and fight for thousands of years. Women have protected the home and children. Women dying to protect the family is understood because that's the way it was for thousands of years. The idea of women taking unnecessary risk breaks that mold, just like stay at home fathers breaks it. I've mentioned that I work in a traditionally male job as a college and high school volleyball/basketball offical. People are shocked I ref but the fact that I ref men's basketball really shocks them! It is physical and I have to deal with crazy coaches and guys that are 10 inches taller me getting in my face. It really upsets some people and I don't run the risk of dying. I can only imagine what female world class adventurers face!! There is a documentary about the Lowe/Anker family that shows the real impact of having an adventuring father who dies and a loving new father. It's real and filled with pain, anger, love and peace. I don't know that it matters which parent dies. It's a huge loss. Volleyball season is full swing so I'm just catching up with videos now!!
Thanks so much for your comment and for your insight. Talking about refs, now there are refs in the NFL, NBA and beyond. Your thoughts are right on point....recognizing the challenges women face in traditionally male dominated fields. I appreciate your support, always!
It’s ultimately a question of - “What do I put first? The pleasure of adventure and accomplishment? Or the care of my own children?” Seems pretty selfish to me (as a child of people who put their own accomplishments in the corporate world ahead of their own children’s). Btw, big fan of the channel.
This was awesome. Thank you!! And I'll be darn. I was right. Finally somebody is doing or has done what I've been saying you Mr. Thom Pollard would excel at and that everybody would love!! Sure enough they do. Alan Arnette is now on video number 7 or 8 of what he calls the Everest narrative. If anybody is interested, go start at April 16th where he begins by taking us all to base camp. After his season updates, he picks up where he left off in the last episode. And if he would just show some generic pictures of where he is describing, i bet it would take it next level. But even without photos, still incredible. After the 1st couple that he did, people were begging for the next one. For those of us that will never climb Everest, it's like getting to be there and better than any video. So far I'm only at camp 2 heading up. With kids and their dopamine blasting UA-cam addiction, so many great storytellers have almost gone quiet thinking a video is what people want or that videos should be news reporting or intrrviews. That or they wait to write a book. Nah, there is no comparison to a man with a gift of telling a story, an art that is slowly disappearing. I'm not good at storytelling, but boy do i wish i had that gift. If I did, I would create a channel that was full of good stories and I bet it would take off, people anxiously awaiting the next episode. The problem is I don't have many stories to tell. But for those who have been on many great adventures, nothing better than them being kind enough to take us alongside. I'm hoping when we make it back down and leave Kathmandu, he'll take us all to K2. ☺️
Coach Tim, thank you! I appreciate your comment and really happy that you took the time to watch. I always look forward to your insight.... Cheers my friend
I agree with the trolls. When you have children, you must put your children first. They need you. Stay healthy and be on your way after they are raised. Either they are important enough to make sacrifices, or they aren’t. I say this goes for moms and dads.
So how does that opinion work with police officers and fire fighters? Or other high risk careers like military, oil riggers, miners etc.? Is the distinction of hobby vs. career enough to justify the risk for one over the other? (Genuine question to further the conversation, not argumentative) The way I see it, some people risk their lives for their jobs 5 days a week - is a hobby climber taking a big trip once every few years much worse than the dad who puts his life on the line every single day?
I mean, its selfish to put yourself intentionally at risk when youre a parent. It is what it is. Your kids need you more than you need your adrenaline/endorphin/ego high. If youre a single parent and you do this...well, you obviously arent especially concerned for your children if you fall in a crevasse or something. Losing a parent at the wrong age can be quite devastating.
Life is about choices you take a risk just getting in your car each day. Theres more deaths on the roads each day than climbing. Live life to the fullest your only on this earth for a blink of an eye. To each there own i say
To answer the question in the title: no. You hold your own standards. It is not for others to decide for you. Your choices in life are yours, as are your responsibility and the consequences of your actions. Everyone is someone's mother, father, or child. Every life and death is meaningful and of equal worth. Just my opinion.
Great stuff as always.
It's greatly appreciated...and it's hard to go wrong with Adrian! Thank you
It seems to me that this is a false argument, making it about mothers' versus fathers' responsibility to their spouse and children. I see it as a misunderstanding of the purpose of life and marriage and family. We did not create ourselves. The strong feelings around the unnecessary loss of a spouse and parent reflect the heart and soul's longing for something larger than ourselves and our earthly pursuits. Every person has free will. Our current modern lives give many of us choices unimaginable to our forebears - especially our female forebears! Those who are left behind, those who will not be brought into the world, the next generation who will not know or have the emotional and material assistance of the deceased, these are matters to consider as well.
I truly appreciate your comment, and agree with you on all counts. Thank you for watching! Ultimately, the decision is an answer to some severe troll comments that were hugely critical of Hilaree. I was not pleased with it, and essentially answered to those obtuse criticisms.
Ask the question "Should fathers or fathers-to-be be held to stricter standards?" Rob Hall missed meeting is unborn daughter.
Yes, absolutely....this was essentially in response to the idea that women are faced with much harsher scrutiny. It should be equal. Thanks for watching!
Women have different pressures than men. People all over the world are used to men dying away from home. Men have gone off to hunt and fight for thousands of years. Women have protected the home and children. Women dying to protect the family is understood because that's the way it was for thousands of years. The idea of women taking unnecessary risk breaks that mold, just like stay at home fathers breaks it.
I've mentioned that I work in a traditionally male job as a college and high school volleyball/basketball offical. People are shocked I ref but the fact that I ref men's basketball really shocks them! It is physical and I have to deal with crazy coaches and guys that are 10 inches taller me getting in my face. It really upsets some people and I don't run the risk of dying. I can only imagine what female world class adventurers face!!
There is a documentary about the Lowe/Anker family that shows the real impact of having an adventuring father who dies and a loving new father. It's real and filled with pain, anger, love and peace. I don't know that it matters which parent dies. It's a huge loss.
Volleyball season is full swing so I'm just catching up with videos now!!
Thanks so much for your comment and for your insight. Talking about refs, now there are refs in the NFL, NBA and beyond. Your thoughts are right on point....recognizing the challenges women face in traditionally male dominated fields. I appreciate your support, always!
It’s ultimately a question of - “What do I put first? The pleasure of adventure and accomplishment? Or the care of my own children?”
Seems pretty selfish to me (as a child of people who put their own accomplishments in the corporate world ahead of their own children’s).
Btw, big fan of the channel.
I truly appreciate your input, thank you...and thank you for being part of the channel!
As a parent, I would never do anything above 14000 feet. Thats me though. You do you. Ill do me.
SHOULD ADVENTURING FATHERS BE HELD TO STRICTER STANDARDS?
Essentially, the question is asked in this video....what do you think? Thank you for watching!
This was awesome. Thank you!! And I'll be darn. I was right. Finally somebody is doing or has done what I've been saying you Mr. Thom Pollard would excel at and that everybody would love!! Sure enough they do. Alan Arnette is now on video number 7 or 8 of what he calls the Everest narrative. If anybody is interested, go start at April 16th where he begins by taking us all to base camp. After his season updates, he picks up where he left off in the last episode. And if he would just show some generic pictures of where he is describing, i bet it would take it next level. But even without photos, still incredible. After the 1st couple that he did, people were begging for the next one. For those of us that will never climb Everest, it's like getting to be there and better than any video. So far I'm only at camp 2 heading up. With kids and their dopamine blasting UA-cam addiction, so many great storytellers have almost gone quiet thinking a video is what people want or that videos should be news reporting or intrrviews. That or they wait to write a book. Nah, there is no comparison to a man with a gift of telling a story, an art that is slowly disappearing. I'm not good at storytelling, but boy do i wish i had that gift. If I did, I would create a channel that was full of good stories and I bet it would take off, people anxiously awaiting the next episode. The problem is I don't have many stories to tell. But for those who have been on many great adventures, nothing better than them being kind enough to take us alongside. I'm hoping when we make it back down and leave Kathmandu, he'll take us all to K2. ☺️
Coach Tim, thank you! I appreciate your comment and really happy that you took the time to watch. I always look forward to your insight.... Cheers my friend
I agree with the trolls. When you have children, you must put your children first. They need you. Stay healthy and be on your way after they are raised. Either they are important enough to make sacrifices, or they aren’t. I say this goes for moms and dads.
So how does that opinion work with police officers and fire fighters? Or other high risk careers like military, oil riggers, miners etc.? Is the distinction of hobby vs. career enough to justify the risk for one over the other?
(Genuine question to further the conversation, not argumentative)
The way I see it, some people risk their lives for their jobs 5 days a week - is a hobby climber taking a big trip once every few years much worse than the dad who puts his life on the line every single day?
Why call someone a troll because they have a difference of opinion to you.
@@ktevans881One set does it for the greater good the other for self.
I mean, its selfish to put yourself intentionally at risk when youre a parent. It is what it is. Your kids need you more than you need your adrenaline/endorphin/ego high. If youre a single parent and you do this...well, you obviously arent especially concerned for your children if you fall in a crevasse or something. Losing a parent at the wrong age can be quite devastating.
Life is about choices you take a risk just getting in your car each day. Theres more deaths on the roads each day than climbing. Live life to the fullest your only on this earth for a blink of an eye. To each there own i say
“Expeditions “. “Missions”. I love the mentally Ill and narcissistic lingo
That soapbox you're standing on is being crushed under the weight of sanctimony.