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  • @PhlyDaily
    @PhlyDaily  2 роки тому +565

    Hi phans! I'm back once again after laser eye surgery. Eyes are healing pretty fat and I can almost see the serkit documents that war thunder uses to balance they game. Will report on that later. Tomorrow's video will talk more about the surgery etc. LOVE yall!

  • @eddiedabowler
    @eddiedabowler 2 роки тому +307

    I served on a Sheridan in Nam. At least until the Army figured out that the unspent gunpowder from the bagged rounds were all over our turret floor. Then I went back to M48 . The so-called aluminum armor was useless and would not stop a RPG or heavy MG.
    I will say this, the cannister round was amazing. Thousands of fletchettes tore up the jungle.

    • @empire-classfirenationbatt2691
      @empire-classfirenationbatt2691 2 роки тому +18

      Canister from the Sheridan or M48? I can imagine a 152mm canister round would be destructive af😂

    • @CrimsonTheNova
      @CrimsonTheNova 2 роки тому +16

      @@empire-classfirenationbatt2691 i think the canister rounds were also filled with thousands of little darts instead of steel or tungsten balls. What I’m thinking of is called the beehive it was a very deadly round it was used in the Sheridan and various other tanks from the same time period I think it’s a cool concept that actually ended up being great.

    • @loganrapp1
      @loganrapp1 2 роки тому +7

      @@empire-classfirenationbatt2691 only the Sheridan launched them, the only other things they were used in were arty for direct fire at enemy infantry and either M79s or M203, they mughtve been used for other stuff tho, not sure

    • @terencblakely2530
      @terencblakely2530 2 роки тому +11

      The Sheridan was one of those clever ideas that worked much better in theory than in reality.

    • @Split_Beard
      @Split_Beard 2 роки тому

      You think a canister round would be good against helicopters?

  • @flamingosaredumb7693
    @flamingosaredumb7693 2 роки тому +427

    The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
    In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.

    • @empire-classfirenationbatt2691
      @empire-classfirenationbatt2691 2 роки тому +10

      Thank you for this. My day just got that much better now😂

    • @Adaminkton
      @Adaminkton 2 роки тому +20

      It's not complete, that's the full version:
      The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
      In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.
      The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.

    • @thymian1419
      @thymian1419 2 роки тому +5

      The among us knows where it is

    • @vonknorring09
      @vonknorring09 2 роки тому +6

      brain.exe has stopped working

    • @Gewoondamhert
      @Gewoondamhert 2 роки тому +5

      I think my brain just committed suicide, I, I can feel it bleeding

  • @sekured9950
    @sekured9950 2 роки тому +142

    I'll absolutely never forget the video intro where you literally said "HEY GUYS IT'S WHO GIVES A PHU** AND WELCOME TO WAR THUNDER!" with the most extreme energy I've ever processed and then it just cut straight to gameplay. It was a new vehicle from one of their updates so you knew people were going to be impatient. Lol
    Edit: I'm still trying to find that video nearly a year or more later because I've never laughed so hard unexpectedly in my entire life.

  • @lucasboulanger5568
    @lucasboulanger5568 2 роки тому +382

    Hey Phly! About 3 years ago you made a video about the AMX-30B2 BRENUS and how it was one of the worst MBTs in the game. Well today the BRENUS has had quite a glow up, as it now boasts a pretty nice array of tools at the comfortable BR of 8.3, such as thermals, a laser rangefinder, IRCM, and a pretty nice lineup to back it up. So I encourage you to take a look at this underappreciated vehicle again (day 2)

  • @Forestmarko
    @Forestmarko 2 роки тому +24

    spot mechanics in game:
    Me: Clear vision on a target ~ 200m away
    Game: You must aim blablabla..
    Phly: "aims" at a target hidden behind 5 hills, 6 buildings on a different server
    Game: Target scouted

  • @gunnyboy311
    @gunnyboy311 2 роки тому +37

    2:35 love it how after phly says "...overshadowed by bradley...", a random bradley rolls in the background haha
    edited the time stamp, thanks G3arJammer

  • @OddBawZ
    @OddBawZ 2 роки тому +76

    HI GUYS ODD BOOZ HERE!

    • @OddBawZ
      @OddBawZ 2 роки тому +16

      ALSO JUST BE STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE!

    • @ARL-44_010
      @ARL-44_010 8 місяців тому

      doodooballs

  • @joshuaellis7428
    @joshuaellis7428 2 роки тому +12

    Phly “420 rounds left. Don’t say it”
    Co pilot “take a hit!”

  • @NinjaCatGreen
    @NinjaCatGreen 2 роки тому +126

    Your videos literally got me into WT, so I'm new to the channel and game. Still, keep up the good work, Sir Plhysalot

    • @r2d2hunter38
      @r2d2hunter38 2 роки тому +2

      Good luck hope you did not chose the US to grind tho

    • @r2d2hunter38
      @r2d2hunter38 2 роки тому +5

      Germany and USSR are best for mid tier tanks and Russian jets and mid tier tanks a best but German prop planes are best

    • @joshrosvick1781
      @joshrosvick1781 2 роки тому +4

      @@r2d2hunter38 USA suffers mid tier Fr, I feel bad playing against them

    • @r2d2hunter38
      @r2d2hunter38 2 роки тому +3

      @@joshrosvick1781 It hurts so bad all the tanks get 1 shot and the Russian and German tanks can’t be penetrated by the American guns even from the flank or behind they take like 3 shots to full kill

    • @khordad1216
      @khordad1216 2 роки тому +5

      That is not the real problem... the real problem is the insanly high repair costs ...
      Why does M26 pershing has 11k repair cost (fully modified) and Super Pershing 18k?! (Fully mod.)

  • @blackstar3376
    @blackstar3376 2 роки тому +54

    The sgt York does the same with its AA rounds enemies can’t see them coming in until they get hit

    • @jamesshaw3500
      @jamesshaw3500 2 роки тому +1

      Tats why I hate the m-13 and m16... they can fire at you from so, so far away.

    • @yorkazuna5934
      @yorkazuna5934 2 роки тому

      Can confirm, it's a real Zuna!

  • @pickle-o1151
    @pickle-o1151 2 роки тому +10

    The PhlyDaily intro is the kick in the brain like a introduction like most new shows or most of anime.

  • @Vexione
    @Vexione 2 роки тому +68

    I've recently come back to playing War Thunder (thanks phly) The M551 has been my favorite tank on my way to US high tier.

    • @craigphillips6784
      @craigphillips6784 2 роки тому +6

      I hear you! Woulda quit long ago without Phlys positive attitude towards the game !

    • @Marin3r101
      @Marin3r101 2 роки тому +1

      Stryker is really good too.

    • @SilentButDudley
      @SilentButDudley 2 роки тому +3

      You aren’t missing much in High Tier, but that’s just 99% of players who feel that way. Who knows, maybe you are in the 1%.

  • @pipluml1458
    @pipluml1458 2 роки тому +2

    Intro - “hey guys! Virtual tank guy here! Today we are going to destroy little children on your favorite video game: depression simulator!”
    Love your vids btw, watching you play is the only thing keeping me playing this game. Keep it up!

  • @Hanzemerkur
    @Hanzemerkur 2 роки тому +2

    0:52 idk if only i see it but near the modification button on the top left the stone edge goes brrrrrrrrrrr.

  • @s1nenomine
    @s1nenomine 2 роки тому +4

    To help with visibility, you can lower the particles density, in the desert maps it will greatly help

  • @Trapan93
    @Trapan93 2 роки тому

    Phly sounding like the star wars imperial alert at 23:30 with all those "hmm"s lol

  • @samott5043
    @samott5043 2 роки тому +8

    Always a good day when Phly uploads

  • @aerialvideosmexicali-pacod6452
    @aerialvideosmexicali-pacod6452 2 роки тому +6

    I will start a vote For intro
    "Hello there! PhlyDaddy here!"

  • @dageogaming4478
    @dageogaming4478 2 роки тому +2

    If you need an intro: there is this great song called "Everybody" , you could use it!!

  • @sawyerbates2032
    @sawyerbates2032 2 роки тому +13

    Day 125: Phly, you should play the Hawk III Chinese fighter; 900lbs of bombs in a biplane at 1.0 that you can dogfight in after dropping. Totally balanced.

    • @David-lm2ht
      @David-lm2ht 2 роки тому

      Poor dude, keep trying xD
      125 Days and still going...

    • @bornonthebattlefront4883
      @bornonthebattlefront4883 2 роки тому

      Keep going!
      We all know eventually he does! Lol

    • @hanknah202
      @hanknah202 2 роки тому

      One day my friend, one day!

  • @zacharyopdenbrouw7640
    @zacharyopdenbrouw7640 2 роки тому +2

    Hey Phly, I just wanna say that today I wasn’t in a very good mood, and I came and watched this video. You made me feel happy and honesty laughed at your video. Thank you, you got me into Warthunder years ago and soon I should migrate from ps4 to pc. I hope you see this, and keep being awesome 😎.

  • @notoriousnitrous9825
    @notoriousnitrous9825 Рік тому

    Nah gotta keep the legendary intro for ever you are the phly the one and only legend of land and air

  • @tate_g
    @tate_g 2 роки тому +1

    1:08 Intro ideas: come up with a clever name or terrible pun based on vehicle(s) played for the video, PhlyDaddy, PhlyDadly, TankDaily, TankDaddy, ect.
    If you have to come up with a new one for each video, perhaps that'll help with the stagnant feeling intro.

  • @David-lm2ht
    @David-lm2ht 2 роки тому +1

    I miss the good ol PhloppyWhoppy. Bring back the old intro song and the PhloppyWhoppy one more Time!
    Edit: Also Tango Down and Risk it for the Biscuit, I'd love that!

  • @Angelthewolf
    @Angelthewolf 2 роки тому

    Actually IRL the sheridan kinda was an fail because it had an powerful gun but when firing it the front wheels did take off the ground so it could technally break it‘s own track just from firing an normal shot (so no missle)

  • @malakov5
    @malakov5 2 роки тому +1

    Glad your surgery went well and glad you’re back!

  • @madknox4666
    @madknox4666 2 роки тому

    OFC you can be PhlyDaily for 10 years, Be PhlyDaily for another 10 years dude ur awsome!!

  • @rockdragon3
    @rockdragon3 2 роки тому +2

    "it's been 10 years i can't keep being phlydaily"
    ask and ye shall recieve PhlyDaddy

  • @Lehmann1978
    @Lehmann1978 2 роки тому +1

    Best Forest Gump impression ever!😄
    I want more!

  • @cartercampbell9172
    @cartercampbell9172 2 роки тому

    I about spit out my capri sun at the "MY EYES" when he switched to thermies at the beginning

  • @RobloxianFourth
    @RobloxianFourth 2 роки тому +1

    Phly"Flip-Flop"Daily, Old Man Odd,and Big BOOMB Beenne.

  • @jimmy3le9plus
    @jimmy3le9plus 2 роки тому

    No joke your intros are perfect. They're always fucking random and that's so creative and unique. Don't change a thing.

  • @faterevelation
    @faterevelation 2 роки тому

    Kill with missile: confirmed
    FloppyWoppy: monkee noises

  • @Meow_Zedong
    @Meow_Zedong Рік тому

    13:30 lol omg you had the w33d # of bullets

  • @richardvoss77
    @richardvoss77 2 роки тому +5

    Intro: Hi guys boom daddy here, prepare for multiple explosions.

  • @spc1481
    @spc1481 Рік тому +1

    M551 is one of my fav vehicles, thanks for showcasing it. :3
    Sadly, I'm not getting it myself any time soon, I'm still at 3.7 BR and my free time is non-existent. :(

  • @teph1256
    @teph1256 2 роки тому

    23:30 phly sounding like a star wars alarm

  • @leotoro51
    @leotoro51 2 роки тому

    20:50 "... in 2085 ?" sure mate, I suppose not enough sleep cause Fairchild grows in extremely fast pace ... hahaha ... have a nice day mate ;) !

  • @SithFTW4072
    @SithFTW4072 11 місяців тому

    I laughed so hard when that one Leopard just panic-reversed after losing his gunner

  • @tristanpelletier8812
    @tristanpelletier8812 2 роки тому

    love how when u mention the bradley it drives by. at least that what I think it is. 😂

  • @brycel4007
    @brycel4007 2 роки тому

    I loved the forest Gump bit man. That was hilarious

  • @HeadCannonPrime
    @HeadCannonPrime 2 роки тому +1

    May I suggest starting the video with "Everybody HEY, Everybody HO"!

  • @stephen28418
    @stephen28418 2 роки тому

    you know sometimes when phily plays war thunder you wonder if he is hacking sometimes cause he knows the exact spot they are he has an amazing GAMING CHAIR

  • @jaxrammus9165
    @jaxrammus9165 2 роки тому

    intro ideas
    "asuuh bros, TODAY I GOT MY HANDS ON THE..."
    "me phly, me shoot, watch"

  • @Clintonidas
    @Clintonidas 2 роки тому +1

    I love watching your videos alot but the energy you brought in this one was amazing. Especially that last battle. I haven't laughed like that in awhile. Keep it up bro.

  • @spencerli9686
    @spencerli9686 2 роки тому +1

    You should do a video on you sitting because new players don't not what to do in there sitting because there is so much thing to do. i search on UA-cam that the last Sitting guide was 1 year ago, it is outdated so I wich that you can make a sitting guide for all of use and all of the new player please.(love you video). Keep making video

  • @orion5470
    @orion5470 2 роки тому

    “Hey guys, it’s PhlyDad” always makes me happy

  • @Bolino2
    @Bolino2 2 роки тому

    1:07 "hello everyone this is this guy who likes to play war thunder, in today's video we're going to suffer and try to destroy our enemys"
    1:20 if Phlydaily is good, where's phlydaily 2?

  • @kyleplatter8954
    @kyleplatter8954 2 роки тому +1

    You should call yourself “Friday Lee” to through everyone off

  • @OutlawAlphat
    @OutlawAlphat 2 роки тому

    Me when I try to get a missile kill: doink
    Phly when he trys to get a missile kill: KABLAM

  • @aratay3117
    @aratay3117 2 роки тому

    I love playing this thing everyone expects to see the atgm (after it fires) so they just drive out in the open even after they watched one of their team mates die randomly

  • @ulfhedtyrsson
    @ulfhedtyrsson 2 роки тому +2

    In transit munitions despawn when you die unless it's 100m from impact

  • @Elvenhunter1
    @Elvenhunter1 2 роки тому

    Really hope Phly will do a German 3.7 lineup at one point. You can bring like... 4 pz4s and other sick tanks.

  • @TheeActualKeyboardWarrior
    @TheeActualKeyboardWarrior 2 роки тому

    Intro: hey fellers and fellets, it's phloopy doopy here back again with another epic war thunder commentary.

  • @chaoslink1158
    @chaoslink1158 2 роки тому +1

    You had it right there. At the end. No need for the "Hi, its me" stuff. We'll all know who it is with that song. You know the one. We won't let you get rid of it. Its a part of you now. Just play it. Then start talking about the vehicle of the day. Just doooo it.

  • @MberEnder
    @MberEnder 2 роки тому +1

    I enjoy this tank, and it's my favorite IRL tank.

  • @TheoHawk316
    @TheoHawk316 2 роки тому

    Call yourself, "Father of [insert tank/jet name here]" when you do your intro.

  • @heck6420
    @heck6420 2 роки тому +2

    Finally man you're back we miss you

  • @daytonmccastle5346
    @daytonmccastle5346 2 роки тому

    Dude your forrest gump is money. It was spot on hahahaha

  • @Ratattatattatttatattatatata
    @Ratattatattatttatattatatata 2 роки тому

    Intro: Hey guys, thunder daddy back with some more war thunder

  • @malyb5754
    @malyb5754 2 роки тому +3

    Enough TankDaily, we need some PhlyDaily

  • @kolemackinnon4524
    @kolemackinnon4524 2 роки тому +1

    Phly can you please make a 2 minute intro on the controls that you use for playing. I think it would be especially useful for vehicles with weird weapon systems (Day 5)

  • @ferronzomeren2733
    @ferronzomeren2733 2 роки тому

    You don’t have to introduce yourself... just play your old intro and say something like “Hey guys! today we are playing (...)” and everyone is happy :)

  • @ScuderiaJR.
    @ScuderiaJR. 2 роки тому

    5:31 im gonna watch it again at night in the darkness of my room

  • @rollastudent
    @rollastudent 2 роки тому

    Welcome to another episode of Phorgotten Vehicles, I’m Phloppy Woppy and today we are taking a look at the M551.

  • @michaeljava8736
    @michaeljava8736 2 роки тому

    The missiles being stealthy doesnt change 1 damn thing. The result of the engagement will be the same.

  • @victor19K
    @victor19K 2 роки тому

    Maybe just say “hi, I’m sir phlydaily” because you’re a damn war thunder legend.

  • @scotttill3847
    @scotttill3847 2 роки тому

    Blue Canadian...I have said this before, but whenever I play against one or more of Justinplays' squadron "minions," they are complete try hards, revenge bombers, early match spawn campers, just all around scumbaggery. Just like Blue Canadian was on Sinai. But I have played with/against Justin and he is so chill. Not sure why his squadron members cannot follow suit. Oh well, you do you, BC...

  • @Mullingamer
    @Mullingamer 2 роки тому

    New idea for a intro: constantly scream for 1 minute, and after that, go right to the gameplay

  • @randomv3iwer
    @randomv3iwer 2 роки тому

    32:08
    “Been playing a lot of Halo 2. Phun game with friends. I don’t know if you have heard of it.”
    Well, phuck you for making us late 30’s players pheel extremely old 😂
    Cheers and happy Phriday from Tokyo

  • @qinsan1282
    @qinsan1282 2 роки тому

    0:53
    Look over there on the left of the Sheridan
    Thats Gaijin’s current servers. In the open area in between A and B at Abandoned factory had the same problem for me, idk why

  • @FuriousDave
    @FuriousDave 2 роки тому

    Why is that Forrest Gump impression so good 😂 cracking me up

  • @3dwrecker_4660
    @3dwrecker_4660 2 роки тому +1

    A thing to note about low render distance in this game; you cant see tanks at long range.

  • @sebastianwargny626
    @sebastianwargny626 2 роки тому

    "The Phlap Daddy is back guys, how are y'all doin?"

  • @YoLo4oLoY
    @YoLo4oLoY 2 роки тому

    “Hey guys it’s the Phly to your jeans, and today since your phly is down we’re gonna meat mash people today”

  • @perils1400
    @perils1400 2 роки тому

    I do like that "Splat" sound effect on some of the hits. Makes me chuckle 🙂

  • @marekmazurek8459
    @marekmazurek8459 2 роки тому

    Leopard 1: proceeding to tactically retreat.
    Phly: He's going back to Germany.
    ;p

  • @hannosielcken728
    @hannosielcken728 2 роки тому +1

    Roleplay as the tank you’re playing as an intro! Would be really fun

  • @nickfindlay2108
    @nickfindlay2108 2 роки тому

    Surely you should introduce yourself as the 'Secretary of the Treasury'?
    After all he's responsible for Banks as well!
    Sorry............
    I'll get my coat

  • @Norrikan
    @Norrikan 2 роки тому +1

    _"This was once the best tank int he game."_ - Curiously, that's not my memory of that machine at all. Like, yeah, it's never been trash like the Starship, but it was from the word go a papier-mâché shoebox with a sub-par missile that only really shone in the hands of a skilled tanker playing smartly.

    • @monticore1626
      @monticore1626 2 роки тому

      Honestly I don’t see why the starship gets so much hate, it’s one of my favourite tanks

  • @Lego5114
    @Lego5114 2 роки тому

    "anyways, welcome back. I'm PhlyDaily annnnnddd I'm suffering a midlife crisis. Thanks for hanging out guys!"

  • @TooVeryLegitTV
    @TooVeryLegitTV 2 роки тому

    "Welcome back, its ya boi" 🤣

  • @jaredquainton9148
    @jaredquainton9148 2 роки тому

    Butterphly was one of my favorites

  • @itskaspahoe7161
    @itskaspahoe7161 2 роки тому +1

    10:55 I'm crying 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @BaronBoar
    @BaronBoar 2 роки тому

    OK. Your new name is Gump. Forest Gump and you will introduce yourself as that. You did such a good job at it.

  • @peplzwachr
    @peplzwachr 2 роки тому

    PhlyDaily: "Hi guys! OogaBooga here. TODAY WE ARE PLAYING WITH...."

  • @noriakikakyoin6733
    @noriakikakyoin6733 2 роки тому +2

    Am big fan you inspire me to get good at warthunder

  • @rahjah6958
    @rahjah6958 2 роки тому

    “Hello god emperor here” into,
    And I believe the missile is pronounced sha-lay-lee, its an Irish blunt force weapon, basically a small hard wooden stick

  • @alexanderbohm607
    @alexanderbohm607 2 роки тому

    anyone else giggle out for a bit at "anyone want free food?"......that had me dyin...lol

  • @Azyuri
    @Azyuri 2 роки тому

    "Welcome children, phly daddy here"
    seems like a good intro

  • @tmdickey1989
    @tmdickey1989 2 роки тому

    Glad to have you back man I literally just shouted,
    "HELL YEAH, MY BOI IS BACK!"
    Well if you want to change your name or be somebody else you think it could be my DAD? Or at least if you upload a video a day then I can feel like I'm calling my Dad , and I just watch your video.
    you can say
    " hey what's up son?"
    Aaaaanyway ,
    I glad you are back,
    And you, Laura, and your BayBeBoi are healthy and back to feeling better.
    If u get a chance, I suggest tickling the ear of your fellow UA-camr and War thunder enthusiast / aficionado
    ..ASH..
    We're all just a big happy family just looking out for each other that's all

  • @FullSemiAuto357
    @FullSemiAuto357 2 роки тому

    I love that the sand in the playable area is just slightly differently colored from the sand in the out of bounds area...
    9 years and still raw lol.

  • @carchariasspartania3958
    @carchariasspartania3958 Рік тому

    "Hi guys I'm talking to people who aren't here right now so thanks for watching the video and making me less crazy."

  • @sejembalm
    @sejembalm 2 роки тому

    "Hi, viewers, this is the Artist Formerly Known As PhlyDaily."
    No! Don't do this! Real friends tell you when you are doing something stupid.

  • @matthewmclean9734
    @matthewmclean9734 2 роки тому

    You've got that forest gump voice perfect.

  • @mth_96
    @mth_96 2 роки тому +1

    10:14 I swear these people gotta be paid actors sometimes. Where tf are all these blind people when I play lmao

  • @mxderry
    @mxderry 2 роки тому

    "Hi, guys! Floppy Whoppy comin' at ya" how about that for a new intro?

  • @sv3106
    @sv3106 2 роки тому

    #80 Loving the Unloved: Play the lovechild of a Spitfire and a Mustang. The MB5 that even you hate.

  • @thezestylime0989
    @thezestylime0989 2 роки тому

    Phly! Challenge video. get 5 tank kills with cas as the mig 21-f13. 60 shots of cannon and 2 tiny Ivan's. surely this is possible for the best of the best