When The Recall Fails. Teaching a prey driven dog to recall. Part 4
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- "I'm not going to be a slave to the environment, I'm going to be master of it".
Video 4 in the series for teaching a dog with a history of hunting and chasing after other animals to come when called. Nothing you will see in these videos has been hidden. In this dog training video series I am telling you EXACTLY what i'm doing, why i'm doing it and what you can expect as a result. The advice and information i'm giving you here is based on my personal experience of working with hundreds and hundreds of dogs and their owners who struggle with behaviours EXACTLY like this - often far, far worse.
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Our Lurcher was just like this a year ago, recall was good but certainly not perfect, if she saw something or got over stimulated she would just run, sometimes 1/2 a mile. Then I started to train with an ecoller. It took about 5/6 weeks to get her to fully understand what that stim meant but now she is perfect, she has complete freedom on a walk off lead and I have peace of mind, Thanks Jamie.
This must work on humans too because I'm smiling and wanting to run up to you when you shout "YEAH" 😂
If someone can think in algorythms, it is easy to understand why hesitance at recall is failure.
Learning to think in the moment is a must to understand these concepts.
Add realistic expectations on top of all that.
If you understand the depth of all this, you can start to really appreciate people who can actually do this right. See how and why this is bloody beautiful.
THIS IS EXACTLY MY ISSUE!!! Especially if his back is turned and I give a verbal recall, 75% of the time I have to resort to a reminder on his ecollar. ITS SO GOOD TO SEE A MAN BRIMMING WITH PASSION FOR HELPING DOGS😍
Thank you!!
@@JamiePenrithDogTraining looking forward to our zoom session😁
Bruce Peterson I am still having same issues with my girl who thinks I am irrelevant when she is in sniff mode
Really enjoying the recall playlist series. Our 6month working line lab used to recall great both inside, garden and in a field however at 5months he started to hesitate and get his nose down and ignore the recall whistle, regardless of how positively engaging i was being. Started to go back to basics with a long line so these videos have come at a great time for us. Thank you.
Thank you for your feedback!!
Beautifully explained, layers and layers of knowledge behind each action. Beautiful to watch too. It was a game changer with ecollar training when I raised the bar on training for an immediate recall. Always had issues battling his prey drive.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for showing this whole process, and explaining to many nay sayers the reason its dangerous to accept a recall that is the dog recalling but when the dog has pushed the boundaries..
We don't need to leave much to the imagination to know what is likely to happen if owners accept the pushy recall 😞. The dog will switch off and be gone. Respect to you Jamie 👍🙌🐾
I just began binge-watching the series and I know already that you are answering questions that I hadn't thought of. THANK YOU.
Love it, love your approach to dog training, exactly the same as mine
brilliant .... exactly like my dog. recall is great until the prey moves. never be complacent.
Nice rainbow! 🌈
Both my dogs have a high prey drive and we live semi rural so loads of those pesky pheasants, rabbits, muntjac deer and badgers. My boy dog is worse with his prey drive than my girl. He always comes back but he does often vanish out of sight and there is always the worry he crosses a road and gets hurt. I think I'm going to try to be more enthusiastic calling my dog back. Usually I just call him and compared to you I can see how boring I sound to come back to, versus chasing prey. I've not resorted to an E collar yet but maybe I should
Excellent videos Jamie, thank you so very much for sharing your brilliant knowledge and understanding of dogs
Thank you! I’m training my dog with an online course and it’s amazing. My dog has some of those hesitations. She amazing except for some of those and wondering how to train with e collar. Want to keep our connection and off leash fun! I live in Montana and work on a ranch and a long line is unrealistic.
Totally understand....that split second....could be life and death for the dog...or as you said..anything else around....mate,your without a doubt the best dog trainer I have seen on here.....I only wish...7 years ago,I could have followed these for my lurcher "molly"...her recall of "wait"...is pretty good....but had a bad experience,this morning...in the park....should just say...molly doesnt like loud noises....kids screaming,football being bounced or shotgun...bird scarer....10 o,clock....of the lead....as usual....then the church bells starts ringing(this hasn't happened before)....she bolted,no warning,the park is just off a main road,I live 200 yards,on the main road....well thought she was going to get git by a car....and thankfully,she ran straight back to the front door.....where as luck would have it,a neighbour recognised her,and held onto her harness.....I'm 54,and couldnt catch up to her from the middle of the park.....usual,if she gets spooked,I shout wait....9 times out of ten ,she does.....really shook me up....any advice?
Very useful video - thanks for posting.
I have one of mine that if in the moment of prey drive I tried to do a recall I know I'm going to fail because it's just not going to happen and so I don't recall during prey drive with her so that I don't have those fails! At least until we fix it. This particular dog is the most instinctually driven dog that I own and in general I've always had good recall with all my dogs but this one's a challenge. If I'm being honest, it's more about me getting motivated to fix than it is about the dog.
I would die for your help with my dog but I live like 4 hours away from you😩 it’s so difficult and he’s worse than this dog in the video, literally responds to nothing outside and I’m lost as to where to turn now for help!
Hello, please feel free to email me, jamie@taketheleadtraining.co.uk
bring on ep 5 🐶
Hi Jamies, When she failed the recall, what did you do in terms of correction? Or was it a case of trying again until she got it?
thank you so much Jamie, this really helps. My dog is responding to the whistle, but I will blow the whistle before he kicks in the actual sniffing.
Great videos Jamie, thanks. With regards to electric collars aren't these seen as in humane? What brand do you use? Also what bloody treats are you giving the dog? Mine gets bored and starts to ignore them? Thanks Keith
I noticed on the first 2 "failures" when she did return to you, you gave her a treat despite her failure. Do you always reward the dog when it comes back to you? To my mind, coming to you/me is the ultimate objective and the behaviour which should be rewarded, even if it isn't perfect.
In the early stages, yes. Going forward it get fine tuned as my requirement criteria increases
I just want to comment that this is a Labrador, and extremely food driven dog. I have a husky/boxer/shepherd mix that is not interested in treats, toys, noises, or play with me as a reward. She'll take treats in the house but has no interest in anything but her own interests outside. How do you distract or reward a dog with no obvious favourites?
Good luck Feb 24!
Thank you! It hasn’t passed through parliament yet. It got pulled!
Good luck finding a police officer in open countryside! 😊
Sale - legal
Purchase - legal
Ownership - legal
Possession - legal
Attachment- illegal
Good luck enforcing that!
At what age to start training a blue heeler golden retriever mix?
Recall training begins with a decent breeder and is built upon every time food, play or praise opportunities are presented.
What length of line would you recommend for this? my dog is very small (8kg spitz) and petite. i have the thinnest paracord i could find but because of the length its hard to manage and quite heavy for my dog.
8-10m
@@JamiePenrithDogTraining thank you so much
I am doing this with my 7month border collie but how does this work when there's other dogs around ?
I've got dogs that do not care what kind of treats I've got in my hand and if they did care it doesn't last more than a few calls. They just loose interest in the treat especially when literally any animal is moving around in front of her. Not just animals but anything small and mobile like a trash bag tumbling in the wind. Do I just have to make my training sessions shorter to match their attention to treats?
At what point can you start recalling dogs when they are already engaged with a distraction?
How long is ur longline
Sir, are you depressed? I am worried about you. Be strong my friend
Why is the dog allowed to roam around, even on a long lead, in these types of environments with ground nesting birds and other wild animals hiding in the undergrowth. These give the dog an EXTREME temptation which would be very hard for the dog to resist. There are plenty of other environments such as woods (squirrels will simply run up the trees) with no roads near by, large parks and beaches where the dog can run around freely where the temptations will not be as great and therefore easier to manage.
There are no ground nesting birds at the end of October in this location.
But thank you for your advice.
Thank you for responding, only thing is that a lot of the public may not be as knowledgeable as you are. So hence I'm inclined to got for a "blanket" advice in these situations@@JamiePenrithDogTraining
Here's the thing, you are fantastic, you know and understand dogs...... but far to many use ecollar to severely shock dog as a punishment, I have seen it