Can Space Heaters Start A Fire? - Part 2
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I was waiting for him to bring out kerosine soaked rags after the kindling
J D why you ask?
J D it’s perfect English
@@soundspark job jbjj
Fuck it kerosine soaked kindling
HE ATTEMPTED TO BURN TOILET PAPER WHAT A MAD MAN
you can just use your hand !
random dude dawg u just nasty
If by "mad man" you mean "Legend" then yes, yes he is
Thomas Williams It was a joke. Literally nobody was talking about what anybody thinks of him 🤦♂️.
random dude Exactly, I use my hand and I lick it afterwards to clean it!
"alright, now I'm gonna spray lighter fluid directly into the heater and see if that catches on fire"
If the overheat sensor was damaged it would likely, eventually start a fire.
Most heater related fires are a result of a malfunction within the heater itself not necessarily the materials in the surrounding area.
You are correct. I was going to post the same thing.
Finally someone that knows what they are talking about. Not to mention most space heaters that do start a fire are because of coming into direct contact with a ignition source. Not just sitting next to it
Most structure fires I’ve been on that involve space heaters in fact are either from a malfunction or from running for several hours from the homeowner leaving the house and forgetting it.
@@tanner-9865 Same experience here
Another reason for a fire would be the actual wall outlet or wiring within the house.
Funny how you're just like "still not looking good" as if a fire starting heater is good lol
Stop being so negative on peoples videos, you give off a bad vibe and make people feel bad
Vlog: My house burned down....
@@jjhack3r so you're going to be toxic because youre edgy? That's pretty messed up man.
@@idatcha you have carona and ligma
@@StrawHatTony420 CORONA COVID19 #PLANDEMIC
I like how the tape is still on the garage door.
I like how people point out stupid shit in videos
That art how much does he want for it
@@DeeManRodgers I like how people point out people pointing out stupid shit in videos.
The Traitor I like how people point out people pointing out other people that are pointing out stupid shit in videos
Gabe Trevino I like how people point out people pointing out people pointing out how people point out stupid shit in videos
osha has nightmares about Tyler
if osha was a person
"This is my house, dude."
@@h1nkle osha is people
The wiring at the plug in the wall has the greatest likelihood of catching fire with space heaters.
J D that’s kinda the whole point of his channel tho
Yeah, if he goes that route I'd be out, I enjoy the view into cave man science, this is a unique perspective, UA-cam is overrun with brainics and wannabe brainiacs, Tyler's just having fun figuring it out.
Problem generally comes from people running extension cords with them especially low amp rating cords. Space heaters are high amperage. I enjoy him just trying different stuff out to see what happens
My comment wasnt anything against Tyler. Just reminiscing from experience.
@@allstar0607 for me no extention cord used.
Space heater: burns curtains
Tyler: tests EVERYTHING BUT curtains
@Tom Green cotton was good for that test
If one ply toilet paper was fine I'm sure you're drapes are going to be as well lol
@L S I thought curtains were usually a polyester or other man made type of materials like that thin see through under curtain. So just testing cotton wouldn't be represented of the whole thing.
Yeah, cotton wasn't a good test compared to curtains, cause I've NEVER seen cotton curtains in my life, and cotton is, funny enough, not as easy to burn as you'd think. You can literally use a ball of cotton soaked in lighter fluid to make a torch you hold in your hand, and the most the cotton will ever do is get a little yellow/brown over time.
@Arc Neo Masato that’s because it’s not real cotton... it’s polyester...
alternate title for every one of his videos: "bearded guy tries desperately to set himself and his home on fire"
If tyler hits 1 mil subs he will Livestream himself shaving his beard
Just imagine how insane that would be
Do not forsake thy beard
that would be lol. i always wondered what he'd look like without it. i doubt he ever would though. soon he'll be trying to look like Hagrid.
@@luckettt. lmao
It would take a miracle and lots of money for Tyler to shave his beard,lol.
I'm pretty sure the problem is just people running multiple heaters on a single, cheap extension cable and/or surge protector..which is both very possible and very dangerous. Too much for that cable to handle. It happens when people run Christmas lights on trees. Too many of a certain type of bulb can get hot enough to melt cheap cable too. When would one want to run a space heater, or multiple heaters? Winter, which is when people set up Christmas trees. So, I'm guessing either, or both scenarios happen. Also, too many lights dry out the Christmas tree, which lowers the ignition point. It's just a thought.
Backtobassics500 also gas heaters don’t have safety so maybeeee he should test that out too. I’ve burned a few towels because of mine in my bathroom 😂
That's literally what he did in the last video, 3 heaters in a cheap cable
@@treghall7623 im not subscribed and don't watch all of his videos, so I didn't know.
My space heater caught fire and started billowing smoke when it was plugged in, OFF, and just sitting in my room away from things. Soooo mine started a fire with nothing but the space heater itself 😂😅
That happened to me a few years ago
This is why you should never leave cheaply made electronics plugged in unattended, good thing you caught it or at least it sounds like you did..
I had a smoke detector catch on fire
@chris still trying to find the funny
chris it’s time for you to put the phone down and do some reminiscing about the poor decisions you made to end up in this reply section
I think the heat gun can start a fire because it releases heat at a more concentrated rate, while the space heater can't because it distributes the heat it blows out at a more spread out fashion
*Everywhere I got he haunts me*
You can light cigarettes with the hot air coming out of a heat gun. I did it as a joke once when I lost my lighter and to my surprise it lit right up.
The one thing you overlooked is a lot of the fires are from malfunctions such as the unit itself catching on fire. The other thing is that 30min of heat is nothing, people leave these things in a room for months blowing hot air over the same place drying it out over time. Now that said, these fires do happen, but it is rare so 30min tests are not going to show much as is
Yeah a 6 hour test would be better, but overall if people use common sense they will be fine
Yep agreed. He completely forgets the fact that people usually use a heater for hours at a time if not 24/7. Hope his viewers don't take his bright idea as a fact about heaters being safe.
Also I've been to alot of house fires when homeowners use propane or kerosene heaters. Went to one where the father of the family used a salamander (only supposed to be used in like a garage or a well vented area) in his family home but he set it up backwards so it was facing the wall.
@@kyle18934 Common sense doesn't cover unknown faults in the equipment.
@@653j521 that's fair. I had a jack fail me a couple days ago. thankfully I put another one in also as a back up. never thought I'd see it break
Tyler tube even in the hard times answering the questions no one asked but wanted to
22 years ago my best friend and her 5 year old brother lost their lives in a house fire started by a space heater. I can still recall the smell of charred flesh on her mum and twins clothes after we picked them up from the hospital and bought them home with us. A family of 4 quickly became a family of 2 in less than 8 hours. I still have a fear of having a heater in my home. Please do be careful. It might not happen to you but it could happen to someone you love.
Tyler, space heaters catch fire by being plugged into an electrical extension that isn’t rated for the draw.
Not always the only way
after two of these videos I am officially concerned for his electric bill
Even though I'm still mad at Tyler for dissing those badass lighted gloves in the last video, I'm still here watching the video with only 592 views!
i think they are cool too . but for thiefs are cooler.
I have one in my truck and they’re not too practical but still funny to bust out on people or when you need a little light to look under the seat
You know you’re dedicated to UA-cam when you nail toilet paper to a board...
Trent Smith In the middle of a pandemic, when everyone cleared out the toilet paper isle first 🤦🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️😎 Thats dedication! LoL I haven’t seen toilet paper on the toilet paper isle for 6 weeks.
'What're you doing, watching paint dry?' 'No ma'am, I'm watching paper get warm.'
This was an amazing test with one single coveat in my opinion.
You should have left it for 8 hours. People go to sleep with it turned on and maybe if the overheating safety mechanism fails it will catch fire.
"I dont usually redo videos"
Say that to the 50 glue videos
@Joshua Adkins your baby is ugly
@@Gizmo_- your rude!
@@ashlannfries3340 you're*
its not redoing a video if hes testing different products lmao
Your baby's cute
"We didn't Start The Fire It was Tyler Tyler Tube"
No, it was Billy Joel.
As a firefighter the fires I’ve seen started by space heaters are usually more on the electrical side. Though I think it’s possible if something like toilet paper/paper can touch the coil it can instantly go in to flames.
I am a firefighter as well and have seen many fires caused as a direct result of using a space heater. I agree with you but hope that people watching this video do not blindly believe that space heaters are completely safe.
@@maxwellssilverhammer nothing is safe
Thankyou so much for what you do
@@maxwellssilverhammer thankyou as well for all you do 🤝
Beware: results may vary if you scratch the “little brown spot” on a piece of toilet paper
That's clearly the wrong kind of heater, you need to use the halogen heaters, the halogen bulbs are used in halogen cookers, those will
I really wanted him to do plastic to see if it would melt☹️
@@Lilith-Rose oh wow that is really scary! I'm glad you found it before it did more dammage!
@tan j maz try it, try it, try it....
Can we all appreciate how much time Tyler put into this video and how long he had to wait for some things to not even catch fire 😂
Well everything has it's own unique flash point where it will start to ignite when a heat source is present and autoignition temperature where it will just burst into flames without a head source. If the space heater doesn't reach the temperature needed for certain materials it won't set it on fire. Kindling might only need a spark but sparks can be very hot and can go higher than the temperature of the space heater.
The space heater also blows a lot of air at it so that could be an additional factor of why it didn't do well at setting things on fire.
I want the camera angle of Tyler just staring at the paper waiting for it to catch on fire
I started a house fire accidentally, of course, when I was 4 years old. Unsupervised child plus kerosene heater plus raw spaghetti noodles ended in a complete loss of our home.
😥
better than dying of carbon monoxide
4G64SicKShoT I’m immune to carbon monoxide
How did you like life at an orphanage?
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If the air intake on the back of the fan is covered, the fire risk increases. Most often, the warning text states that they must not be covered
Ronnie Larsson I think he tried completely covering it in the first video and it just shut down sooner from the thermal overload
O think a lot of the time its dust buildup in the heater itself
They can also melt extension cords if not plugged directly into the wall. The fire probably isn't caused by the heating elements in most cases. They just pull tons of electricity and if something shorts out it can cause a fire.
I don’t think that fires start from the heater blowing onto something. I think it is wen something gets sucked in from the intake area like dry lint fluff etc. When it gets sucked in as runs through it and over the element.
Can you do superglue comparison where different cheap super glues compete with brand names such as loctite and zap .etc
@@ThePrufessa clicked on this comment to say that lol
Go to the Project farm channel!
@@ThePrufessa he wants to see Tyler though
i was confused at first because i could of sworn i already seen a video like this but then i saw the upload date and was like oooh okay...
All I thought about when he took out the survival matches was, that looks really delicious.
The forbidden Pocky
@@elvsrbad2 lmaooo
This would be an interesting thing to test with hair straighteners and things that had no air movement but still get really hot. Like if you accidentally set an elastic band down and put the straightener on top of it will it catch fire?
I wonder what would happen with the same materials, if turned 90° so the hot air blows directly on the edge, but doesnt restrict the airflow. And if the temperature rises if airintake is partially restricted.
Have you tried phosphorus?
By the way, ever heard of a thing called "self-ignition temperature"?
Ah yes, I too put my space heater next to phosphorus. I do it all the time! Infact, it's a hobby of mine
In cases where I've heard of space heaters starting fires, it seems that it always happens during the night, when the owners are sleeping. So, I think you should try sitting a heater on carpet, and placing a blanket near it and run the heater for 6-8 hours for a more accurate test.
I've found that the most common cause of heater fires is either using an extension cord, bad connections at the outlet, old wiring or having aluminum wiring.
Thoroughly enjoyed the video. I'm glad you did a part 2. Can't wait to see what you come up with next.
Tyler you’re literally just a scientist of the people at this point.
I'm pretty sure the actual heating element goes in a cool down cycle to prevent fires, It's when those safety devices fail that fires occur.
I once had a space heater going I think it was an older Honeywell brand and after about 30 minutes its made a horrible noise and started shooting blue sparks out the front of it.
Tyler: Quick and dirty
Me: Thats what she said
I've never been this early 😂 posted 4 min ago
Click the bell and you'll know instantly
13:18 a little tiny brown spot
On some brown cardboard
18:52 "you'll probably start to see the red, hopefully,"
**Points directly at own face*
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23:39 "hopefully I don't look too much like an idiot"
lol
What if it's something you have to leave going for a few hours? Like when people leave a space heater running overnight. Iunno. Good video, though.
4:10
Plot twist: he printed an a burn mark to make it look like it burned.
When I was a kid I scooted my pillow up to a standing floor heater. Best belive that thing caught on fire luckily my mom smelled the smoke came downstairs and saved my hair. But I was sleeping ever so like a rock
Let’s be real, none of us actually search for videos like his.
Tyler: hello how are you...I was calling to see if I can get fire Insurance can you help me with that?
Insurance company: the answer is no we have seen your channel Tyler like every insurance company has seen ur channel heck I bet this is ur 3rd company you have called isn't it?
Tyler: uuuum no
Insurance company: I'm sure have a nice day.
Tyler: hangs up phone how'd he know.
I wonder if space heater fires are mainly caused by frayed cords or overloaded power strips. If you're pulling 1500 watts, you may max out cheap Chinese extension cords, or aggravate a poorly wired outlet, or even cause problems with old, grandfathered, pre-code house wiring. Most electrical devices in your house draw under 100 watts. Large appliances might be plugged into suitable outlets or circuits designed for heavier draws. Your kitchen and bathroom might have additional safety devices built into the switches to accomodate hair dryers. But random 1500 watt heaters being used willy nilly might not be so safe.
I think you would like John Ward's UA-cam channel.
From personal experience they explode into flame when they finally burn through the the heating element and it shorts out.
They do short out almost every season.
Mine completely melted the heater and I was sitting beside it and unplugged it immediately.
I waa really glad there was nothing flammable within 2 feet.
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It wasn't the first time.
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Mine run 10 hours plus per day all winter.
Never unattended.
Think of this also, all of your test were done at 30 minutes. So basically what you're testing is the probability that a heater will start a fire in 30 minutes or less. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that the heaters that have started fires in home did not do it in 30 minutes or less. I would think it was by heaters that were accidentally left on while unoccupied for hours. I understand that is impossible to do a test for and I understand why you did what you did. But don't you think that exposing that cotton fabric to a heater for 8 or 12 hours could have given you a different result? Or do you think that in 30 minutes it would have reached its maximum temperature? Its hard to say for me. Still an interesting experiment anyway, nicely done.
How they start fire is a short circuit because they are high power and they start burning themselves.
We all know in the words of Bruce.. “you can’t start a fire.. you can’t start a fire without a spark”
Just a recommendation for the small space heater I believe it’s not catching anything on fire do to the fan power I’m far from a physicist (just a bit of a pyro) but I bet if you could slow down the fan power to like 1/4 of what it is I would bet things would catch on fire thanks for the video!! If anyone could respond if they agree or disagree that would be great!
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i appreciate how you had that emoji on the ready instead of typing a or something
I worked in a burn ICU for 2 years and we got a lot of space heater fire victims, especially in winter months, and some of these patients even passed away. While it may be hard to do, it’s definitely common and y’all shouldn’t be careless based on these experiments
Time for part 3 testing oily shop towels, and flammable liquids.
Btw, I think most space heater fires are caused by issues with the wiring and not the heaters themselves.
I've seen several catch fire. What I've found was they suck up a bunch of dust and debris which builds up and is what eventually catches fire. So I always check them and clean them if they are dirty.
This is big cap. I literally just used my heater to start a fire with a 12 pack box. It took less than three minutes to catch.
My parents always told me that space heaters would start a fire when I was young. I always believed that, but that was in the 90's. Our heaters were probably from the early 80's or late 70's. If anyone have one that old they should send it to you so you can test a old one.
Why didnt you ever use the thermometer to tell us the temp
@Jason Scott no the paper chard. Paper starts to burn at 451*f
The most likely area to catch on fire is at the electrical outlet. I had a space heater running for a couple days on and off when my gas wasn’t working and it completely melted the outlet behind my bed. Very lucky it didn’t burn the house down.
@TylerTube So in basic terms you got it right with why the space heater and heat gun had a different effect on the various materials, the heat gun was imparting more energy over the same amount of surface area as they heater. As for the more scientific reason it all boils down to the way those materials are bonded together on an atomic level and how much energy it takes to break those bonds. Basically all the tiny molecules that make up a piece of paper start to vibrate when they get excited by the energy being transferred into them by the heat source via infrared radiation, the more energy they absorb the more they vibrate until eventually they shake so hard that they snap the bonds holding the material together. The point where this happens is known a the auto ignition point and it varies from material to material, some things have weak bonds holding them together and might burst into flames at room temperature, other things with extremely strong bonds might barely catch fire if you put them on the surface of the sun. In either case the effect is the same and you've got to be able to get enough energy into it as fast as possible to break those bonds.
Ok but how bad was your power bill after this experiment XD rip
I imagine while waiting the 30 mins Tyler is in the corner like Gollum from Lotr.
Hey Tyler,'
I am a volunteer firefighter and I have seen what space heaters can do. I once saw a space heater start warping the metal it was made out of because it got so hot. I have also seen what they can do to houses. I do agree that it isn't a guaranteed thing that they start a fire the warning is more there so you take the precautions to reduce the chance of a fire if the space heater shorts out or gets hotter than it is supposed to.
The great way to guess it is find the autoignition temperature for those materials and compare it to the temperature in front of the heater. Might as well give information of what not to put in front of the heater.
If you crumple up the paper into a ball that might work better as the heat gets trapped and it isn’t just passing through the paper etc
I feel like most fires caused by heaters are caused by the dust that settles on the coils, so unless you only use the heater once a year and never clean it, they wont cause fires.
That heat gun basically creates a blast furnace and btw that black stuff is carbon from the paper and the heat
You need to increase the surface area of the paper, hold it perpendicular to the heater, not parallel to the heat source. Like an inverse radiator
1 thing the keep in mind is that different materials have different flash points, if you get it to that temp it will catch fire.
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@@harrisonkelly hell yah!!!
Now i do know space can start a fire if u have an bad outlet
Oh. by the way, try plugging the heater in with an extension cord. I have almost started a fire that way. The plug completely melted, and was VERY close to starting a fire if I didn't get it after an hour or so.
watch part one yet?
You should totally try to cook food with those heaters 🤣 just to see if it'd even do anything
I always thought those were death traps! Your videos have convinced me otherwise.
Should have took your temp gauge and measured the heat coming out of heater compared to the heat gun.
Nice video. I just might have to try this with different experiments on my channel. Thank you keep them coming!!
That would be cool to see! Love your channel!
Can you cook steak burgers and hot dogs on a space heater?????
Bro you need to use a quartz heater. The older ones have very little safety built in.
Things you didn't test but that were common materials in the time period where space heaters were blamed for lots of fires: polyester fabric, rayon fabric, nylon fabric, latex painted surface, aerosol can (like hairspray), plastic bottle of cleaning chemicals, glass jar of cleaning chemicals. That would be one heck of an episode...the closed containers would PROBABLY explode even if there wasn't fire...
And we know you love dangerous experiments
Well damn there’s goes that idea for burning down my house for insurance money 😂😂
if i had a logical guess....the tiny fan in the smaller heater is keeping a flame from starting.....many of those style heaters dont have a fan .... ....the ceramic heater prolly dont get as hot as the "red coil" style and the design of the circle fan keeps anything away from the hottest part.....the part in the center
the "red part" is basicly a controled short circuit so there is possibly of fire tyler happened to find the 3 safest maybe.... due to so many past failure of these things they have been designed now with many extra safety features(prolly to the point of overkill they want them hard to start a fire so it becomes less likely for a fire to happen)
maybe part 3 where u only show successful ways to start a fire with a space heater.... maybe removing or bypassing the safety features ... plus u get to destroy the heaters while doing so.....dont forget liquids can short circuit it for example....like using your heater as a dyer and it gets wet or similar
the heat gun....again has a fan....less chance to start a fire
From personal experience, my mom had a space heater in the office in the early 90s and the chair was too close and it did catch on fire.
Toilet paper has to be flame proof in case you have had a really hot curry 🤪
The main reason these cause fires is because people use it on exstention cores rated around 1500watts now. Your tv takes up some of that plus consoles maybe ur lamp / computer. Problem with these heaters is that they need alot of watts / use alot of watts. If you go over the rated spec of your exstection there's your fire.
survival matches are also waterproof.
Hmm 😍 there's just something about a bearded man saying "its gonna be quick and dirty" that makes me melt....
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Ignition temperature depends on many factors. With paper it is 451 deg.F (Thanks Ray Bradbury).
One thing you missed was the relative size of all of the samples. They should all be the same size and same distance from the heater. The larger the piece of material, generally the more it takes heat wise to cause combustion.
The moisture content of the paper (and other materials), as well, as well as the composition of the paper.
EG: Old very dried out newspapers, from say the 1940's will ignite quicker than the new paper products. Less moisture content, as well as chemical composition is generally different in modern papers and cardboard , TP and dryer lint. Coconut fiber, excelsior, etc. is much easier to light, as you showed.
Wool lint should be hard to ignite, while cotton lint will likely ignite faster. Composite cloth will vary (Like your undershirt), depending on the mix of fibers. Natural, rayon, nylon, etc.
But all in all, I think your demo was pretty good.
However, I would love to see a Part 3 on this using a temperature probe or thermometer to see just how hot the material gets at a set distance from the heater.
I would definitely say this was much more conclusive than the last try. The one thing I kept thinking with the paper especially is that it is white, which means its highly reflective of radiation. Thats why it shut down those heaters so fast in the first two tries. I would have been interested to see if black paper made any difference, seeing as it should absorb way more heat than white.
Secondly, near the end when you were just seeing if you could start a fire without flame, it made me think of when I was a young lad and I used to go around lighting stuff on fire with just a magnifying glass and the sun. Probably has to do with how much you can focus the energy down into a point. Even the heat gun doesn't focus heat as much as a magnifying glass can sunlight.
Anyways, nice one. I do think you have conclusively shown that space heaters are not nearly as dangerous as they say, and I'd bet most fires started by them are caused by failures of the components in someway, rather than normal operation.
One last note, you should have pointed it at a pile of clothing or something, as thats what I always imagined was the starting point of a house fire by space heater. You'd probably see the same results anyways, but yeah.
For the next video bypass the thermal cutouts inside them
Hilarious how he says, "Off to a good start." When it's a better thing if it didn't burn