PETE 349 FRAME STRETCH PT6. WELDING THE FRAME!
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- SO THIS IS PROBABLY THE PART MOST FOLKS ARE WAITING FOR. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I SHOULD BE CLEAR.....'I'M NOT A WELDER!" WE FINALLY WELD THE TWO FRAMES TOGETHER. AFTER FITTING AND CHECKING TH FRAME. I GO AHEAD AND TACK WELD IT SO I CAN LAID THE HEAT TO IT. WE ARE USING THE HTP PROPULSE 220 MTS WELDER WITH .035 FLUX CORE WIRE AND 75% ARGON / 25% CO2 SHEILDING GAS. THIS IS ONE OF THE PROCEDURES THAT PETER ZILA HAS TAUGHT ME. I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO MAKE A SUCCESSFUL UPHILL VERTICAL WELD BEFORE LEARNING FROM PETER. VERY GREATFUL TO PETER ZILA, HTP WELDERS AND USAWELDS.COM FOR ALL THEY HAVE DONE FOR US.
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HOPE YOU ENJOY THIS VIDEO!
these videos are a whole "how to and why" education. Love every one J. C.
The string is old school but tried and true for many years ! You do great work
Like a water level, old school but very accurate!!
Now that is a job well done !
Accuracy, precision and actually caring what you are doing …. This will pay off later.
thanks peter. your teachings and the htp welder made all of this come together better than i could have hoped for. thanks again for taking the time to show me the machine as well as sharing your knowledge and procedures.
Thanks for showing us the progression on your project. Shout out to your helper that works behind the scene, I think she earned a date night. God bless your family.
JC. You really impress me with your work and how meticulous you are. I was always taught that anything worth doing was worth doing right the first time I always look forward to seeing your next video and your finished product. 😎
"if you dont have the time to do it right the first time, you certainly dont have time to do it twice."
@@j.c.smithprojects Variation on that is: "If you didn't have the time and money to do it right the first time, where did you find the time and money to do it right the second time?"
oh....i like that even better!
@@j.c.smithprojects Thanks. I got that from the head instructor when I was going through Auto Mechanic trade school, and have basically lived by that motto since.
J.C Your work is phenomenal and you care about detail. This is lost in the world today. God bless you two...
JC, you do nice work. One thing that has helped me on doing vertical up welds is to use the torch and preheat the joint , I found when I am doing the weld it’s like there is a little magnetic force holding the puddle when I pause on each side and whip across the center, the heat also increases penetration, and I feel the weld is flatter when it’s complete , your workmanship is inspiring…. I look forward to your videos
thanks for the tip. did you see the heat transfer on the back side of this? i think it did pretty good. peter zila's instruction is what made this work out this well for sure. so grateful for him, htp welders and usawelds.com for approaching me.
Great video J.C.Smith your process for doing this is spot on. Your welds look great looking forward to your next video stay safe Mr & Mrs J.C.Smith.
I said this before ,you do better frame work than most professional frame shops!
Frame welding looks good 👍 JC, Mrs Smith puts in a lot of time on cleaning, and it shows. Have a great evening.
I met a guy who did sandblasting and paint work years ago. He told me that the majority of his work would be known as a “Navy paint job” - red oxide primer and enamel top coat. He said there’s no need for complicated super paints or anything. Just good industrial paint and hardener. I agree - and apparently, so do you!
As good as you and your wife are as problem solvers and fabricators, you are both BETTER as good, honorable people. That's the primary draw of your channel, at least to me. Thanks for being a good example!!
Hi buddy, another great video. It’s new process/welder you’ve got there, you’ll get better the more you use it. Shout out to your assistant, she’s doing a grand job! 😊
JC you and your wife make an outstanding team and your attention to details to make it right is very important looking forward for the next video on this thumbs up 👍👍👍👍👍
JC when you were doing a horizontal weld point your gun slightly up, and don’t weave on a horizontal weld , usually it’ll cause undercut on the top , with dual shield, you should be able to run a stringer bead vertical up without weaving it at all, also when you are plug welding a hole and using flux cored wire, you have to chip the slag off every time, get yourself a piece of copper or a piece of brass and put it on the opposite side of the hole and use hard wire to weld the hole shut, I generally use piano wire instead of string and only on the sides, you can use it on the top but it will be lower in the center of a long frame.
i have used a piece of aluminum on the back of the hole to help hold the puddle. wait for the weld to cool? even if it is still hot puddle?
Dear @@j.c.smithprojects couple.
That's interesting because aluminium melts already at 660 degrees Celsius (= 1220 degrees Fahrenheit). I use(d) a copper or a brass block (respectively relatively thick plates).
Best regards, luck and especially health to both of you.
Great work as always Mr. J.C. Y'all take care.
Thank U for posting J.C., super job, workmanship & explaining all the things so well!
Yessir, I/we viewers have seen your lovely wife’s “detail” work on some of the interiors of the trucks…, very nice work…. I hope this customer sees this video, and appreciate her work.
Great video,
Thank you sir.
looks good to me, of course you and the wife do good work and not short cuts that make more work,as always thanks for the video's have a good weekend Chris from Cashmere
Wow the wife is helping and she’s not telling him what to do 👍nice
Wonderful vid three decades ago I did this kind of work.the step cut string lines the ##### of measures. So glad to see a couple do it RIGHT ADDITIONALLY happy to see those new htp welders plasma ect.
i cant say enough great things about the htp welder and plasma cutter. absolutely fantastic machines.
I've used SS piano wire and paperclips for the initial rail alignment on log carriages at sawmills. With a small turnbuckle you can get the wire extremely tight.
JC I admire you and your wife's hard work I always said I would never by a truck without checking it out myself with you I buy it on your word
You and your wife make a great team!
Truly a team effort, man that welder sounded hot,
JC as always your attention to detail and the way you present it gives all the answers to the questions I no longer need to ask. Thanks
Nice job bud looks fantastic great video as always
The attention to detail and layout is top notch. Those HTP’s seem like they are next level machines. You may want to get yourself a backhand heat pad for running dualshield or flux core in the future. You were very lucky to have Peter help you out and offer up his knowledge
Well as far as welding you are a quick learner looks like a fine weld job to me
Well done , looks awesome. Can’t wait for the next video on the frame . Thanks for sharing.
Piano wire works well in place of string pulls tighter and won't burn great job on the frame extension
Thank you for sharing this with us. You and your wife are a wonderful team together as you both are doing the preparation work for the primer and paint. And a Big shout out to Peter Zilla from welders USA I think that’s right and HTP Welders for helping JC. looking forward to seeing the next video. May you and your wife have a Blessed One.
thanks you mr. patterson.
Yes, thanks for the shout out
The attention to detail is on point J.C. The welds look great and after primer/paint I won’t even be able to tell the frame was spliced at all. Great work, looking forward to the next one👍
Great video,thanks for sharing, awsome job
wonderful video knowledge is power most of what i learn here i will never use but might need to be sure things are done correctly. It is so nice to see someone really explain what they are doing but its even better when they explain why they do the way they do again thanks so much for sharing this valuable information to all of us i know it takes a lot of time and effort to do what you do.
Nice job with the uphill welding. Dual shield works well on uphill
*Phenomenal* work J.C! 🙂👍 Glad to see you got the frame welded and ready for paint/primer. I like using string lines to check things as well. Hope you and your misses had a great weekend. Talk to you later 🔧🔩
How sad am I, no 1 , been waiting for this one JC . 👍
Great job both you 👍👍👍
Very clean job .I'm impressed
thanks you sir.
JC. Like always, Thank you for doing your videos. You provide information to those of us looking to build our knowledge base. I really enjoy when you talk about what you do and then tell us why you do it this way. Your an inspiration to me in so many ways that I can not thank you enough. You videos are always so good. You have a great process on you teach and a great working partner. Someday I hope to meet you and just have some great conversation and then enjoy some ice cream. Your just killing it.
appreciate that. i think its easier for many people to under how i am doing it if i explain the why.
Wow! Very precise. Your attention and dedication to make it as close to perfect as possible is amazing. I’m very impressed.
It is good to see there is still quality work being done, top notch.
Great welding your wife may have to be careful if the ultraviolet rays ☀️ is what she's feeling with the heat to! One time I was welding without my safety gear got a little sunburn.
I like how maticulous you are and how well you explained it. I do like the strings, too. They don't lie when they are tight. Buy a digital angle finder. They are cheap and accurate. Definitely enjoyed watching. Keep up the good fight.
the latest and greatest technology still fails. i am ok using it to double check but i will stick with the simple string and gravity.
@@j.c.smithprojects totally agree that string is the most accurate way. I switched to a digital angle finder and I like how easy it is to read with these old eyes. Stick with what works best for you. Thanks for your time as we all know how important our time is.
Moving fast with that welder. Looks good.
the video is at 4x normal speed while i am welding
Thst turned out beautifully
Nice video great job
Nice fab work, you and your wife are a great team!
Wow, super nice work! Frame joints are smooth as silk, looks like it came from the factory. Really nice!!
Awesome work!!!
That's a pretty good slogan they have
hello from the Netherlands .
thanks for the video JC and Mrs.Smith .
Sincerely Hollandduck
If your aren’t careful people will start calling you a welder. Not sure if you watch ic weld but he takes the time to set up rests when he welds to keep steady and help with the heat
no chance of that. i have seen ic weld. i really like that guy. very imfortative
awesome job
Been meaning to mention this.... Every time your wife speaks I am straining to hear her. Maybe she could speak into the mic a bit more. Good build JC!
I love watching ur videos because there’s no one that can match it
Very nicely done! I have recently started using turn buckles with bolts welded at right angle on the ends. And use them in existing chassis holes to set the "distance" at the joint. Then when you move the frame around to align it the distance doesn't change.
i considered similar but i didnt want any "pull" on the frame when i welded it. i wanted it just "sitting" there. my saw horses with the rollers under the frame accomplished that.
Awesome job with the string lines 👏 I wish the laborers that work with me would watch this !!! I can't tell you how many guys I work with that let the string line get slack when we are grading an area or trip over it then try to use it to measure down 6 inches for grade , once I set some stakes with the laser we just start running string lIne everywhere and you can do whatever is easier 4 inches 6 inches 12 inches , then make a mark on the shovel or rake and I find a point on the bucket that matches and we grade the area right up
simple is reliable and repeatable.
Nice job man!
Looking good! I see too 2000 views and 500 likes. You’ve sure got a great audience! 😎
lots of good folks watching this project!
That ,s why some welders say it's similar to sun burn be safe both of you peace
HTP hooked you up!
Wow....very impressive....nicely done.
You the man!
You only prove the devil is in the details. It like doing body work 90 percent prep 10 percent paint. You do really great work and your sponsor knows that keep her going
good information thank you.
That is a good welding
That's the same way we align walls when framing houses.
Finally!!!
Youve made jock the scotsman a happy man! . Im like the strings on your chassis i need pulled tight as im sagging in the middle!
So I tried to follow, but is the original frame 1/4", and the replacement rear section 3/8"?
Btw- the new pulse welders are very hot. Will burn through a T-shirt so I always wear a welding shirt/leathers no joke! Hope the Mrs is feeling better now 🌷
original is 3/16" thick. new frame is 3/8" thick
Jc I agree red oxide primer works excellent had custom chipper bed made after month was rusting at braces double coated bed with oxide primer 7 years later still not rusting. On a side note make sure welding helmet working properly and watch for reflection coming through backside of helmet had bad experience burnt cornea'sdue to flash back like sand in eyes for a few days was told by professional welder to wear sunglasses under helmet when mig welding
That was great you almost see work done that well!really good it would be great if everyone took that level of work quality.that
far too often i hear people say "they dont pay me enough to do that" or "its good enough for what they pay me"....you either have standards or you dont. the amount you are being paid never changes that. if ypou do good work, you will be in demand, you can almost write your own ticket in this world right now.
i like it 👍👍 going to be a really good truck
its coming along.
Use your needle scaler to knock the slag off those dualshield welds.
Send that old Hypertherm my way lol excellent job as always J.C,you need a tripod for your camera,or a magnetic mount
its going on a plasma table some day
Where’s Jeffery’s hoodie,nice of htp and Peater to help out good folks
A channel in Australia uses a needle scaler between welding passes it seems to work well .
i could see that working well. this flux just fell off. no chipping needed. i went over it with a wire wheel each time tho.
JC enjoy every one of your videos that you and misses JC do cupel of things I wanted to mention to you that might help you out when I do alumin truck wheels and even on my bike I use Napa brand wheel cleaner you might have to do it 2 times but it works the best out of all I have tried and the other thing I use for rusty nuts and bolts is fluid filem it stops rust but it also works like DW 40 or mariville mistre oil but better if you let it set for a few minutes
i have some of the napa wheel cleaner. it cleans it well before polishing.
"Who am I kidding, I'll check it 3 or 4 more times" :)
Yeah welding can do that skin burn easily also it it can burn your retinas out of your eyes you staying within ten feet of the ark looking at the ark,,,, nice hoodie sweaters and nice welding gloves premiere welding gloves ,,I have for years schooling and welding wow they're nice gloves there a lot better than my gloves when I was in school
I used rusty metal primer and the black paint on my Sterling in 2011 it’s held up pretty good. I used a foam roller and a brush on the frame and wheels
when you spray it and add the hardener, it becomes even more durable.
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I’ll try it that way on my Mack. Thanks
Looks good, need to get Mrs JC a hood and some gloves. That welding sunburn stinks.
she was wearing a welding helmet....then she put on gloves too.
WOW THAT LOOKS VERY GOOD. NOT TO BE MEAN BUT HOPEFULLY TIM GENTRY IS TAKING NOTES, BECAUSE THEIR IS A RIGHT WAY AND A WRONG WAY OF DOING THIS.
we all have different ways and preferences. these are mine.
@@j.c.smithprojects ya the right way is the way your doing it my opinion
Just WANA say Thank you for sharing this knowledge with US LERNERS … BUT I AM CURIOUS HOW MANY HOURS YOU HAD INTO JUST THE TIYING THE TWO FRAMES TOGETHER ??? Fro striping them down to rolling that truck out the door ?? And Curious. What it would cost for A job like that If that’s ok to ask ???
Is called welding flash if you're looking at the Arc of the welder the radiation that ark gives off burn skin what's best to cover it when you get close
Hi, i use a 500amp welder every day it gets hot
Your sweatshirt sleeves look like mine, just saying
nothing goes to waste around here until it is truly useless.
Unless it is really short, you cannot pull a string tight enough to keep it from sagging. Having said that, the string will be so straight that you probably can't get the frame to be that straight. I, personally, cannot afford one, but a spinning laser lever would do everything that you could possibly want in regard to leveling the frame.
i trust strings and gravity over electronics. simple is reliable.
I am going to get one of those HTP plasma cutters.
discount code in the description
Questions I'm hoping that you'll put some inside gusset plates what's some good half inch bolts two beef everything up.
It got so hot that I got a sun tam 😅
Im not hating you I’m not criticizing I’m just saying that you should sleeve both frames at least 30 inches after the welds back and forth and not grind those welds, when you grind them weak the weld most likely can brake because is where is all the stress is really good work nice weld nice alignment looks pretty good 👍 but put a sleeve so you can reinforce the stretch
not what paccar procedure says. they want the sleeve to extend past the splice by twice the frame height. my sleeve is 7ft long. way over kill. if i ddint grind the weld, it would have prevented the inner and out frame from laying completely flat against the main frame. that would have made them both weak and ruins the integrity. i v grooved the inside and outside of each splice. my welds have full penetration. my welding process is strong than what the recommended procedure would be from paccar. grinding the top of didnt didnt even take it down to the strength of their procedure. also, over 60 bolts in each liner, main frame and outer frame splice. i am happy with it.
@@j.c.smithprojects nice work very instructive I will keep watching your videos a lot of information keep hustling 👍
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I'm sure you know there a big difference in putting a and are on to put off the problem and fixing it right.that
i have read this over and over but i am sorry i just can not figure out what you mean.
I read it was not federally legal
to weld a commercial truck frame. That state law varies by state.
read it again. that is not the case.
@@j.c.smithprojects Thanks
People don't see the work behind the scenes.
Some awesome work
What ever became of that truck I believe it was a 9700 international?? With same sort of super tanker??
It had a Detroit I think you fought it the whole build
its been running every day for about 18 months now.
@@j.c.smithprojects cool don’t think I saw the end of it glad it worked out
Looks good! I know you have done a bunch of these. Have you established a ballpark of how many man hours it generally takes to complete one? I'm thinking Maybe 125-150 hours.
seems like they are never the same. always something different with each. i can do a regular frame stretch where i just splice on a used cut off in about 40 hours now. this one has so much more being done than just a simple frame splice. i am shooting for that target of 150 but i will be amazed if its under 160. hardly cost effective to have a shop do this to this particular truck. it would be more cost effective to purchase the right truck to start with. i keep very good records on time spent on every truck i build. i want to know how much labor costs i have in a truck so that my profit is accurate.
@@j.c.smithprojects Gotcha, I could tell by the level of detail you were gonna have a lot of hours in this one.