Great review - thank you for showing all standard Rohrer & Klinger inks in one video! I am using Salix now for ten years and it never harmed a pen. I lovebirds for the color and the great shading!
The name of "Blau Permanent" is not deceiving but very informative: it is permanent unlike your standard run of the mill royal blue which can be erased with ink erasers, hence this blue being "permanent".
Other ink brands do use the "permanent" name differently, so if people are used to that, it might be a bit misleading. But for R&K it does make sense. - Colin
+The Goulet Pen Company Probably true indeed. It is just that since it is German that I presumed the conditions in Germany where my first post rings very true (-> deletable royal blue vs permanent "royal" blue)
It depends on the person, some people love it, some don't. I think in general, people like it though. Mainly because it's something you can only get with a fountain pen, ballpoints and gel pens won't shade!
Very Nice review! Ps: Anecdote space: Mare is an italian word that means "sea". Solferino instead is an italian locality, famous for a battle between french and austrian troops.
Interesting to revisit this at the tail end of 2021. R&K now also have several document inks in the Dokumentus line that I really enjoy and have strong permanence, without being iron gall based as far as I know. My end-user research into this line indicates these are fountain pen friendly, with one caveat that you need to avoid leaving your pen uncapped for too long. While that's probably true of most inks, I'm guessing the Dokumentus series may be a chore to clean out of a pen if they've been left to really dry out. I'm only dabbling into this series so far, in cheap pens, but if they hold up well then I'd like to see how they behave with higher-end pens.
Hi Brian, just a random question, what paper do you use to do your little ink swab samples, it looks kinda like Original Crown Mill but if you could clarify i'd be very grateful, it seems to bring out the colours really well:):)
The Goulet Pen Company I typically hate yellowish greens, but for some reason reason this one is pleasant and grassy. I may buy a full size bottle someday
Oh man I didn't realize that Scabiosa and Salix were water resistant inks, I gotta grab those the next time I order. Scabiosa was already on my wishlist because I thought it was a pleasant looking color suitable for everyday use, but the water resistance is a plus. Currently Alt-Goldgrün is the only Rohrer & Klingner ink I own, but I should expand my collection a bit :)
Yeah, they're awesome inks, just be sure to stay on-top of the cleaning schedule with them as the iron gall inks can get pretty bad if left in too long. - Colin
I've been using Pilot's Syo-ro and when I pick up the pen after making a mark, it leaves a very small amount of that red sheen just in the spot where my pen left the paper. It's really subtle.
That's strange. Just this week I bought the bunch because in the shop description it said waterproof and listening to your claim, that Rohrer & Klinger Zeichentusche (drawing ink) is not waterproof had me worried. So I opened the page with the the test swatches I scribbled just an hour ago and a water-brush and went over it. I couldn't lift any color. It didn't feather the sketchbook paper in the stylefile marker sketchbook. So yes, my quick test of Rohrer & Klinger Zeichentusche verified the claim from the online shop where I bought them, that the ink is waterproof.
There may be a bit of language barrier with the bottles, but I believe what you're describing is not what Brian was talking about in this video. Drawing ink may be waterproof (we don't carry it), but the writing ink (Schreibtinte) isn't necessarily which is what Brian reviews in this video. The R&K website (www.rohrer-klingner.de/?page_id=573&lang=en) distinguishes them as calligraphy ink vs writing ink. - Colin
hello, I am writing from Italy, could you please explain me what is the "SWABS" 1-2-3 and how it is done ? At least in the video it seems there is written SWABS but I may be wrong.....
Great question! The "1" is a single layer streak of ink using a cotton swab. We then start the second swab on top, but further down to create a second layer. And then we do the same thing with a third swab. This is to show saturation. I hope that helps! - Drew
A great format. Now do it with the Diamine range! kidding ;-) Joking aside, might be cool to do it with the smaller ranges, like L'Artisan Pastellier, or the new kid on the block, Robert Oster. Need to sample-up on that alt gold-grun, cassia, verdigris, bordeaux. I realised after about 20 samples that I just don't like regular blue. Blue-with-a-touch-of-something-else like Tanzanite, Bilberry, but just not plain blue. That koenigsblau though...
Robert Oster is growing by the week, I think we're up to 40 inks now? Either way, we do have regular ink reviews on our blog if you want to check them out (blog.gouletpens.com/p/ink-reviews.html). - Colin
Time stamps of the tested colors, with their names given on the labels:
1:54 Alt-Bordeaux (old bordeaux, bordeaux vieux, bordeaux antico)
3:27 Alt-Goldgrün (old golden green, vert d’or vieux, verde d’oro antico)
4:02 Blau permanent (permanent blue, bleu permanent, blu permanente)
4:33 Blu mare (Sea-bluish, Bleux royale, Blu reale)
5:10 Cassia
6:17 Fernambuk (Pernambuco, Pernambouque, Pernambuco)
6:52 Helianthus (sunflower, tournesol, girasol)
7:22 Königsblau (royal blue, bleu royale, blu reale)
8:02 Leipziger Schwarz (Leipsician black, noire Leipsicien, nero di Lipsia), (R&K is based in Leipzig)
8:58 Magenta
9:26 Morinda
10:13 Eisen-Gallus-Tinte „Salix“ (iron/gall-nut-ink „Salix“, encre ferro-gallique „Salix“, inchiostro ferro-galla „Salix“)
11:06 Eisen-Gallus-Tinte „Scabiosa“ (iron/gall-nut-ink „Scabiosa“, encre ferro-gallique „Scabiosa“, inchiostro ferro-galla „Scabiosa“)
12:09 Sepia (sepia, sepia, seppia)
12:45 Smaragdgrün (viridian green, verte émeraude, smeraldo)
12:59 Solferino
13:30 Verdigris (verdigris, vert de gris, verde grigio)
13:59 Verdura (verdure, verdure, verdura)
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I'm late to the party Brian, but I do LOVE the fact you have reviewed all the inks in the one video - makes it so much more accessible.
tackmack I'm glad you like it :) -Brian Goulet
Almost 6 years later, and this vid is inspiring me to try a new brand of ink.
Great review - thank you for showing all standard Rohrer & Klinger inks in one video! I am using Salix now for ten years and it never harmed a pen. I lovebirds for the color and the great shading!
The "overview" format was a brilliant idea! Thanks Brian.
Great video, I really like the brand overview videos. Keep it up!
Many thanks for the nice overview! It really helps a lot to understand how it will look on the paper
The name of "Blau Permanent" is not deceiving but very informative: it is permanent unlike your standard run of the mill royal blue which can be erased with ink erasers, hence this blue being "permanent".
Other ink brands do use the "permanent" name differently, so if people are used to that, it might be a bit misleading. But for R&K it does make sense. - Colin
+The Goulet Pen Company
Probably true indeed. It is just that since it is German that I presumed the conditions in Germany where my first post rings very true (-> deletable royal blue vs permanent "royal" blue)
This was a very good review of some interesting inks. Thanks for covering the whole range. Really useful!
It depends on the person, some people love it, some don't. I think in general, people like it though. Mainly because it's something you can only get with a fountain pen, ballpoints and gel pens won't shade!
It'd be really nice if you stocked R&K regularly
We do try - unfortunately purchasing direct from them in Germany creates shipping challenges that we haven't been able to impact on our end. - Drew
@@Gouletpens thanks Drew! If only those inks could be like operation paperclip… damn fast exodus from Germany lol
This is one of my favorite of your ink reviews. I have the Cassia now just from watching this and am sure to add more colors from this company.
R&K comes up with some unique colors. Alt-Goldgrun is super weird, but I love writing with it. - Colin
Colin, I did see another review on that particular ink and it is a definite for me. I liked the looks!
Thanks.
Oh, sorry about that! It's Solferino :) You can see it written at the top of the page, but my longhand is a little hard to read in the video.
Very Nice review! Ps: Anecdote space: Mare is an italian word that means "sea". Solferino instead is an italian locality, famous for a battle between french and austrian troops.
Perfect. A fast but very informative review. I loved it...
chrisrap52 thanks! -Brian Goulet
Great! Glad you like it : )
Interesting to revisit this at the tail end of 2021. R&K now also have several document inks in the Dokumentus line that I really enjoy and have strong permanence, without being iron gall based as far as I know. My end-user research into this line indicates these are fountain pen friendly, with one caveat that you need to avoid leaving your pen uncapped for too long. While that's probably true of most inks, I'm guessing the Dokumentus series may be a chore to clean out of a pen if they've been left to really dry out. I'm only dabbling into this series so far, in cheap pens, but if they hold up well then I'd like to see how they behave with higher-end pens.
Awesome review!
Hi, could you maybe do a review...or just comment ;-) on the gold and silver versions in this brand of inks? Thanks! Brilliant review by the way!
It's not really an ink spill...it's my logo, the same one in the intro and outro of this video :)
Hi Brian, just a random question, what paper do you use to do your little ink swab samples, it looks kinda like Original Crown Mill but if you could clarify i'd be very grateful, it seems to bring out the colours really well:):)
alt Goldgrun and Scabiosa are honestly my favourites
Alt-Goldgrun is such a unique color. I'm a big fan. - Colin
The Goulet Pen Company I typically hate yellowish greens, but for some reason reason this one is pleasant and grassy. I may buy a full size bottle someday
Oh man I didn't realize that Scabiosa and Salix were water resistant inks, I gotta grab those the next time I order. Scabiosa was already on my wishlist because I thought it was a pleasant looking color suitable for everyday use, but the water resistance is a plus. Currently Alt-Goldgrün is the only Rohrer & Klingner ink I own, but I should expand my collection a bit :)
Yeah, they're awesome inks, just be sure to stay on-top of the cleaning schedule with them as the iron gall inks can get pretty bad if left in too long. - Colin
Thanks for the tip :D I've never used iron gall inks before so I'll make sure to be careful
I've been using Pilot's Syo-ro and when I pick up the pen after making a mark, it leaves a very small amount of that red sheen just in the spot where my pen left the paper. It's really subtle.
That's strange. Just this week I bought the bunch because in the shop description it said waterproof and listening to your claim, that Rohrer & Klinger Zeichentusche (drawing ink) is not waterproof had me worried. So I opened the page with the the test swatches I scribbled just an hour ago and a water-brush and went over it. I couldn't lift any color. It didn't feather the sketchbook paper in the stylefile marker sketchbook. So yes, my quick test of Rohrer & Klinger Zeichentusche verified the claim from the online shop where I bought them, that the ink is waterproof.
There may be a bit of language barrier with the bottles, but I believe what you're describing is not what Brian was talking about in this video. Drawing ink may be waterproof (we don't carry it), but the writing ink (Schreibtinte) isn't necessarily which is what Brian reviews in this video. The R&K website (www.rohrer-klingner.de/?page_id=573&lang=en) distinguishes them as calligraphy ink vs writing ink. - Colin
Thanks. The design of the bottles looks so similar. These are actual two different products. My bad.
No worries! Definitely confusing when I was trying to get a handle of it all on the website. - Colin
It just happened to work out that way!
that ink spill on your hoodie is freakin me out
hello, I am writing from Italy, could you please explain me what is the "SWABS" 1-2-3 and how it is done ? At least in the video it seems there is written SWABS but I may be wrong.....
Great question! The "1" is a single layer streak of ink using a cotton swab. We then start the second swab on top, but further down to create a second layer. And then we do the same thing with a third swab. This is to show saturation. I hope that helps! - Drew
Thank you very much Drew for the answer.
Hey!
We manufacture Fountain pen friendly books in India and we're wondering if you'd be able to do a product review for us?
A great format. Now do it with the Diamine range! kidding ;-) Joking aside, might be cool to do it with the smaller ranges, like L'Artisan Pastellier, or the new kid on the block, Robert Oster.
Need to sample-up on that alt gold-grun, cassia, verdigris, bordeaux.
I realised after about 20 samples that I just don't like regular blue. Blue-with-a-touch-of-something-else like Tanzanite, Bilberry, but just not plain blue. That koenigsblau though...
Robert Oster is growing by the week, I think we're up to 40 inks now? Either way, we do have regular ink reviews on our blog if you want to check them out (blog.gouletpens.com/p/ink-reviews.html). - Colin
Thanks, I have been!
do people actually like a lot of shade variation in their inks?
ilikepieism I would if I had more inks.
Scabiosa is my favorite ink
A blitz review of German ink? Ha.
Verdigris looks misnamed, wish it were iron gall
yes but its still freakin me out!
Alright, well I'm sorry! :)