Volkswagen e-Golf winter test
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- Опубліковано 3 лют 2019
- 90 km/h, 56 mph:
172 Wh/km, 277 Wh/mi
180 km/112 mi range
120 km/h, 75 mph:
233 Wh/km, 376 Wh/mi
138 km/84 mi range
Weight:
1700/920/780 kg, 3748/2028/1720 lbs, 54/46
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You're a hard working guy, my friend.
He's asian. :D
I really like this video style; right length, nice music interludes, and good footage. Keep it up.
Bollocks
It would be great if you could include a table with the range of all the cars under the tbtc like you do with the noise test.
That table is huge.
@@bjornnyland, maybe make a Google doc table and put a link in the description. That would be very helpful.
@@bjornnyland He has a good point or you could do top 5 and then where this sits. For example, if it is rank 50th you would show top 5 ev car values then a row with ... ... ... for values and then the car you are ranking values. Of course you could go top 10, top 20 even. Something like that. It would be pretty helpful to compare the car against ranking leaders.
Nice video. I live in Quebec City Canada. You winter looks exactly like ours
Thanks for the re-review! I knew it would be more silent without those Hankook tires. Great video. Would be nice to see a summer test on the range at 90km/h and 120km/h. Again, thanks!
Thank you very much for doing this test. The 2017-2019 e-golf is my dream car currently, so it's nice to know exactly what its limitations are. I would definitely still get one if I was in a financial place to do so, lol
The e-Golf is immensely more nicer to drive and more fun (except for highish-speed or low-traction drag races from the stop lights :D) than my other car (a 2017 VW Tiguan 2.0 TSI 4M DSG) in the city and for short commutes, but unfortunately this is where it all stops. Due to the short range and the almost non-existent EV public charging infrastructure in Romania, long-distance driving is simply not feasible in this car.
If it had double the range coupled with faster charging, ~70hp extra and AWD, I would sell the Tiguan in a heartbeat and never look back. But as it stands today, the e-Golf is just a huge black hole in our family's budget. Or it makes the Tiguan one since the Tiguan took the back seat, can't figure out which is it :D
Hi Bjorn. Love your work!
Quick question, could you test the e-Golf’s auto steer? Last time you said it only has ping pong auto steer but that’s not the case. It has two modes. The second keeps it in the middle of the lane. It’s an option so your test cars might not have it.
Also, the green part of the screen that shows the regen level when driving shows the proportion of charge it can accept when charging. When it’s all the way you can charge at 40kW. When it rapid gates it’s halfway so about 20kW.
Had really been considering one.. but 84 mile motorway range 😱
Could you please make a table with the consumtion of the different cars you tested at 90 and 120 km/h. That would be great!
Yep, I have lost many tailgaters but taking roundabouts with max speed in the e-Golf :-)
i love your country.....
My E-Golf wi arrive in January here in Germany. Normal price would be to high by VW gave large discounts in prospect of the ID.3 release. After all discounts and EV bonus and with almost all features it was around 27.000€. Range is plant for my daily overall 50km travel to work and back.
I got mine e-golf top spec for 330k NOK so the list price is workable.
Lars I yeah because it’s subsidized in Norway to compete with diesel. Wish EU had that too
Hi Bjorn, would be great to have a recap table at the end of your videos, with car, consumption/range at 90, at 120, test temperature and road condition, and price.
Thansk in advance and warm (well, say mild at the moment) regards from south of France
Nice and informative video as Always. Don't overdo the music parts please.
What do you mean?
If you use too much music we can't hear how a car sounds on a particular road at a particular speed. It is not only nice to compare how much decibels are produced but also "how" the sound spectre is. As an example: I see you tested e-Gold with two types of tyres. It would be nice to hear the difference between the tires. The music is nice but it can take away information from the viewer. Please don't take this as criticism, I really appreciate your work.
It's possible to get a google sheets link with all results to analyze and choose the next car
When will there be an e-golf 4x4 ?
😊👍
I have tested an e golf last week for 3 days. What I did not like is the integration of the electric drive unit in the otherwise more or less untouched diesel golf chassis. Especially the overassisted granny brakes generate a somewhat harsh transition between regen and actual mechanical braking. It takes some getting used to. Ioniq feels way more like a complete ev build than the golf even though it has a fossil brother. Interieur is nice in the Golf, i also missed charging infos.
With gear lever that manages regen modes (which is unique in eGolf among EVs), there's no need to use mechanical brakes at all, except complete stop and in case of emergency.
@@JPetr94 The concept of different regen modes set by stick or "shift paddles" is nothing special. I know that. Still, the mechanical brake is overassisted by the booster like in every other VAG car. The brake should have a more linear feel to integrate better with regen. All this modern overassisted brakes are crap imho. Only good for grannies driving to the shopping mall.
"shift paddles" isn't that at all.
@@JPetr94 if you use the gear lever to set max regen, does the brake pedal further increase regen, or is it already maxed out as soon as you lift off the accelerator? Just thinking that might at least eliminate the blended brake pedal transition.
The e-golf has wonderful interior, feels like an expensive car to sit inside. Range and charging speed is terrible though.
Killerash13 The official price here in Germany is 35900€ and after the EV bonus its 30900€. And to be fair this price is just a recommendation for the dealers. I paid 29000€ completely new with *everything* in it. If you compare it to the “normal” golf the price is not that bad, especially because it starts with a higher level of features than the ICE golf.
@@lorenzmuller4000 Yes, but it is city car (no % for battery, slow charging (rapidgate)), compared to Ioniq, for example.
@@valtersvasilis no rapidgate - watch yesterday's video.
@@lorenzmuller4000 Here in Belgium, the full options egolf is above 50.000€ now. Way too overpriced imho.
Yeah this is what I dislike about for example Kona/Ioniq. I'd pay like 1k more or so to get a better interior design.
Seriously considering picking up one of these. I can get one factory new for 250K DKK
Købte du den?
the austrian kreisel had a (prototype) golf with 55.7kwh battery, liquid cooling, same weight (and space) and quickcharging (150kw) in 2016. sucks that it didn’t make it to the market (via vw or as a 3rd party upgrade).
www.kreiselelectric.com/en/projects/electric-golf/
Hi how can I extend range in the winter with climate control
Hur lånt kommer du på en laddning...med e-golf på vintern och sommar....?....mvh Magnus Lemhage Skövde Sverige 😊
Isolasjonsfeil på nesten alle e golf ved lading da ladekontakten ikke tåler regnvær. Dekkes ikke av forsikring så er bilen over 5 år så sett av 20-30K for reparasjon.
Hi bjorn, i have a lot of question about ev, can you pls help me? First of all, when you use regen do the brake lights turn on? If I start the car and immediatly hammer it could I ruin the motor like in a ICE? Could i have some problems if I charge only with shucko? Of course now i don't remember all my question but this is a good point of start lol
ps: love your videos
Simone Ricci , till Björn can answer, i try it.
Yes if regen on a stronger level, braking lights are on, different from manufacturers
Start and hammer is not so bad, as on ice cars, but
If you like your car, i wouldn't do so in very cold winter times.
Why? There are also moving parts, and there could be also oil in the one gear box
There is no problem on the emotor, as on ice cars.
And the time is very short your ecar is ready for hammering.
In summer time is no issue, start and hammering is ok.
@@yodagerhard8389 thanks a lot and what do you think about only shucko? Or just very slow charging speed, I think shucko is 3,7kw, could it be a problem for the battery?
Schuko is not designed for continous 3.7 kW load (16 A). It can overheat and cause fire. You should charge at max 10 A (2.3 kW) on Schuko.
Batteries like to charge slower. But Schuko is not perfect. Maybe you have a CEE 16 A oder CEE 32 A socket. Then you could use a mobile wallbox like NRGKick, Go-eCharger or Juice Booster. This have also good DC FI Security built in. NRGKick and go-eCharger also have an app.
But there are also a lot of wallboxes, also the Tesla Wall Connector, can be used for every Typ 2 eCar.
If no CEE 16A or CEE 32A is there, then
the easiest way is to change the Schuko with a Blue CEE socket (also camping socket named, same wires as schuko, 3-pole) and use such a mobile wallbox with the camping adapter.
Or if you installed a blue CEE 16A socket (instead of the Schuko socket, you can use
your SchukoCharger (delivered with the eCar) and a Schuko to CEE Blue Socket adapter :)
This last way: few costs, but you are more secure as with a Schuko socket.
Shucko may cut it for this small battery sizes. Yes, it doesn't harm motor if you hammer it cold, but it may degrade battery a little bit faster.
tha car is equipeed with heat pump or just regular cabin heater?
The base model doesn't, but the premium one does.
Does this car have a heat pump? This option helps a lot with range in cold weather...
Yes
Heated front screen?
yes.
Yes - it has the heating wires in the glass. Preheating works (from the timer or app) using the aircon to blow hot air; but from the app you can turn on the extra windscreen heater
How much is it in U.S $$
Where’s the snow? Wet road testing.
Did you meqn 35,8 kWh battery in the video end?
+Jo St 31.5 kWh net capacity.
@@bjornnyland Does it have a top buffer and if so do you know how many kwh?
35.8 kWh high-voltage battery not 38.5 kWh
Can you test the BMW i3 the new all electric one, apperently it is very good
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We need a proper wintertest on all of the cars. at least -10 (wich is still not alot in norway even in your area Bjørn) aaand...in highway speeds. Nobody does 90 in the highway. At least 105+ or so. I have been driving a Zoe since september at work and i run 100KM highway driving everyday + 50KM inside Oslo everyday. I also drive it like a gasoline car. Heater at 24 degrees and no eco mode. Incredibly enough the lowest range i get on it after my driving style even in -15 or lower is still 170-180KM. The range on the zoe 40 keeps impressing me but the rest of the car is kinda meeeh. :)
Watch the video before you comment. I already did 120 km/h test. Duh.
Did you watch the video? 90km/h was to simulatel city/highway cycle.
Golf 60Kwh?
Volkswagen announced the launch of the MEB based VW ID neo for early 2020. It will replace the VW e-golf and it will have battery options with higher capacities. I doubt there will be another new version of the e-golf with bigger batteries.
$44,800 for VW egolf....yikes. Give me used Fiat 500e ..
I don't understand why VW can't build a eGolf with 400-500km range and a decent Charging Speed (75kw from 10-70%).
If they deliver on their promises, they will achieve this with the VW ID pretty soon.
I didn't know that there are other companies making EVs too, I thought only Tesla is the one
Bare roads not much of winter road drive
But what will the Norwegian Leaf community say now :P
"leaf me alone"
@@GrandTheftChris :D
3700 lbs for a golf. I wonder how these compliance EVs do in crash testing with all that extra mass. The heaviest non EV golf is 10% lighter than that.
To be precise, pure curb weight of this 36kWh is ~1600kg (1700 is with driver and stuff), the heaviest non EV is R which wheighs 1500. The partly-fossil GTE weighs exactly the same as 36 eGolf.
actually, in multi-car crashes the extra mass plays heavily (pun intended) in your favour.
@@kam_iko, why? More energy of the impact - more damage, I doubt it lowers peak accelerations of the occupants.
@@MrPaukann look up any Tesla crash test ratings. They have the highest safety ratings the US or EU has ever tested.
@@noirceur_, firstly, that's BS, they are among the worst. In EuroNCAP rating model S is the worst car in it's class since 2011 an in IIHS rating it is 14th out 15.
Secondly, how is it related to my statement?
First! 😜
The e-Golf is over priced imo 😖
It costs the same as it's competitors: leaf and 40kwh Kona. At least in Germany and the US.
In Norway it's way more expensive, like €5000 more
@@AgentSmith911, hmm, weird, in the US and Germany they cost the same. Maybe e-golf has more equipment included in Norway?
@@NotNowLater, leafs aren't made in Norway.
This car should be around 15k with that terrible range and charging speed. My god.
hahahahigh-speed test, 120 war keine hohe Geschwindigleit.