why is patron w and face hunter the most common decks? because they are cheap i love HS but im not spending hundreds of dollars to get all the cards when i can beat almost every deck with those two
+Chester Cheetah why you gotta use bad words against people online..... you must have a hard life if you used that hate on someone on the Internet , just know my friend you are never alone in life
***** emm no.. i use gold why would i spent money on something i can get with in game currency maybe u cant get pass 2 wins in arena. PS: even if i spent $50 you may not know this but 50 is under a 100 :^)
Ive noticed pirate priests swarming the meta recently, but luckily mill hunter hard counters it. You wont have to worry about the rank 23 pirate priests anymore :) No problem
Don't mind the Patron really, it's the mechanics of how everything works that I feel is OP. Ok so they can spawn forever, that's great board clear for a weak deck, then comes the Frothing who gains attack for each thing that gets damaged and this combined with whirlwinds and deathbite plays can make an insane Frothing minion, but whatever big creatures are not new, IMO the busted mechanic is the Warsong Commander, it should allow them to have charge if their attack is 3 or less, not give them charge, so once a minion has more than 3 attack the charge mechanic should no longer work. And yeah I'm sure a bunch of Patron warriors are going to disagree, that's their right so have at it, but frankly I don't care if they disagree :D It seems in general Blizzard lets mechanics/combos get out of hand for the late game, and often it doesn't require anything more than literally "not playing" with cards until you have all the pieces for a particular combo.
+RunderKeks28 Well, it is easy to play. The two things that you gotta keep track on are: 1. Don't throw your combo pieces to waste: Warsong Commander, Grim Patron & Frothing Berserker 2. How much dmg you can dish out with Frothing Berserker. Which almost doesn't count, since you always have enough. Like srly, the most common mistake I've seen is either throwing WS Commander to charge acolyte for draw or throw patron/frothing without the charge.
Vindy YT And you just have to wait until that Point, since your Opponent will just pass every turn, right? But you probably went to legend with Patron already, so who am I telling, right?
+SrEstroncio he usually focuses those videos about arena stuff, and he's not playing that much arena lately. With the current season about to end he'll probably ditch constructed and return to arena, so hopefully we get more of those videos in the near future :)
How to get rid of Patron Warriors and Face Hunters? Make other decks aquirable for F2P players. Currently decks requiring specific classic/GvG/TGT cards are hard to aquire. Getting legendary by buying packs with hard earned gold? Yeah... good luck with that :P. Luckily they made arena drop random pack instead the newest, so classic cards are not that hard to get as it was before. But for the other hand the new card set is so big that getting important legendaries from TGT like dunno... Varian Wrynn from arena awards and buying packs with earned gold is even smaller than getting Dr. Balanced :P
Thaynara Moreira That would totally distort the balance. Aggro decks would suffer, and some of combo and OTK decks too. Basically it would nerf everything besides control decks. And totally everything that F2P players can play. If you kill Face Hunter, Patron Warrior and cancerous aggro decks, then F2P players will not have any good decks. The solution is not to take away the only two decks they can play successfully, but give them capabilites of creating more decks. Instead of increasing character life to 40 i would reduce cost of classic pack from 100gold to something like 40 and see how things go from there. That should allow constructing control decks for F2P like dunno... Freeze Mage or Handlock.
After so many videos, I find out at the begining he says: "Hey guys how is it going, Kripparrian here." I have always thought he says: "Hey guys how it's going companion." WELL THAT MAKES SENSE NOW my life will never be the same
I think an effective nerf to Grim Patron would be "Whenever this minion survives damages, spawn an exact copy of this minion." This would limit the splitting in warriors, and bring about a new type of Patron deck, with buffs like Paladin or Priest.
As druid I find that holding on to plague seeds or starfall works decently. Other then that... Try and keep board presence. FoN/power of the wild doe a decent job as well. But don't get too many units out. A warsong commander on turn 10 will mess you up big time if they play a berserker as well.
Most of the people at rank 5 to low legend were playing alot of tgt decks, most of them(like 7 or 8 out of 10) being secret paladin and rest of them being kripp's hunter, dragon warrior or dragon priest.
The grim patron deck is good and popular because there's so many cancer decks that flood the board with minions. If you play a control deck with aoe (flamestrike) and removal cards then patron warrior is easy to beat.
Most of the time it is not the Patron that kills you, instead it is the Berserker that OTK if there are only a few minions on your board and Warrior got the right draws what he probably does because the deck has (if you didn't notice somehow) a TON of card draw
+Snufkin224 Except not really though, since Patron can otk from no board with berserkers. But keep thinking Patron is easy to beat with any deck that stands a chance on ladder =)
Rank 6-4 was almost all tgt decks yesterday the first day of the expansion though I think everybody wanted to test cards and decks out in casual rather than ranked.
I really hope they don't nerf Grim Patron warrior, I am still sad they killed miracle rogue, that was also a very fun deck to watch. If anything needs to be nerfed into oblivion it's the cancer decks like hunter rush, pala rush and warlock zoo.
+Darth Mortus Hunter only has like a 50% win rate and there's no way to nerf it without just plain ruining cards that don't need nerfs. Zoo is also impossible to nerf for the same reason, nothing in it needs a nerf. Paladin though, oh my god fuck that shit. It's like Face Hunter but you need to hit everything twice.
+Lennon1398 you nerf hunter by giving control more viable cards against aggro which aren't dead against other control decks or combo decks. TGT has gone a nice way towards that with some pretty nice heal cards which aren't utterly useless against non-aggro decks, but there's still a long way to go to bring huntard and zoo into the realm of the reasonable. I agree with you on paladin though. That kind of stuff is just vomitive. Some of that stuff can do with a nerf indeed. And we -really- need more anti-divine shield cards which are decent and competent on their own, as bloodknight is again a card that against that specific deck is sick, but against the rest is just useless.
ramjb I dunno man control has some pretty good cards to beat Hunter with. I have lots of experience playing both decktypes and all you need to beat a Hunter is like 2 earlier taunts or something that kills a bunch of their shit for free. Refreshment Vendor is pretty good since in a control matchup the extra health they get likely won't matter at all and against Aggro it can win you the game by itself since not only does it heal you, but it kills several creatures by itself. Many people think control is worse off than it is.
When I first played grimm patron warrior, my version when it cames out, and some other's guys version, I ofund it pretty fun, but it's hard to pull out the combo, and early phase is really bad if you don't have some key cards. I would of never expected it to be constructed good
Hey Kripp, what do you think about the Murlocadin deck? I hadn't seen or heard of it until today when I got destroyed by one. First Murloc he got out of the Murloc Knight (which was in his starting hand) was Old Murk-Eye, and you can imagine how fucked I got after all of the divine shields he could play.
I feel like Shaman can run some great hate against Patron Warrior. Elemental Destruction, (Spell Damage)+Lightning Storm is 4 full board clears, enough to clear their Patronspam and any Frothing Berserkers. Couple that with 2 Healing Waves (and higher cost minions than the Patron deck) to rise above any non-fatal combos, then just bring your Totem Golems and other 3+ attack minions to the field.
Kripp - 29:43....why not attack face? By attacking Patron, he ends up with 1 more 3/3 instead of a 3/2 and you could have gotten rid of 4 of his armor instead of 3 of yours. I realize that ultimately it makes little difference because clearing the board basically equates to winning, but it still seems to me like a bit of a misplay. BTW - I don't say this as a criticism. You are far more experienced than I, but watching your videos, I'm also pretty sure you are also interested in continuously improving.
To be fair, it's not uncommon for card games to release relatively unimpressive sets and a lot of people do actually view this set as below the bar. But that's a good thing because it establishes what lines need to be crossed before the meta changes. Also, what might seem uninspired now might be seen in every deck in the future. Eventually there will be a time where Grim Patron and Face Hunter are relics of the distant past. This will inevitably happen over the natural course of the game.
patron warrior is the best deck period. Not only is cheap, flexible, hard to play but also it can beat pretty much both control and aggro, it also has the most insane draw mechanic in the game (battle rage), im surprised blizzard didnt nerfed.
How hard would it be for them to make a card like Lorewalker. A 0/4 legendary 3 or 4 crystals that has "silence" effect. It would read "No effects can trigger while this is on the board" No battle cries, no death rattles, no constant effects. All effects fail. That would be an interesting type of card to play with if you could stealth it. Call it annoyed librarian or something stupid.
Maybe change it so that it only spawns a new patron when it survives damage at full health? Maybe a change to war song so that a creature looses charge from her if it's attack exceeds 3 the turn it receives charge from warsong. In my opinion, Patron really isn't had hard as people make it out to be, Draw and survive,, get a good Emperor turn when you got the combo pieces, lethal for so much damage that you OTK control warriors at 40 effective health/armour.
I think Kripp forgot that the average player didnt spend $500 on TGT. Most people dont have enough TGT cards to make the new TGT decks. The ladder is actually full of the new Mysterious Challenger Paladin Secret deck, because its a pretty cheap deck to make. Only needs a few TGT cards and no legendaries. Give it about 2-3 months before you see TGT decks allover the meta. Maybe 1 month for Legend rank, since people there tend to spend more on packs.
I'm currently stuck at rank 15-16 (like lose the first star of 15, destroy the rank 16 scrub, get my precious star back, lose it to Mech Mage or Patron Warrior, rinse and repeat) with my Token Paladin deck (I didn't expect it to go much higher than this considering how little I do ranked) and I was surprised by this apparent wall where decks suddenly change to netdecks, where fun disappears and is replaced by grinding, at a place much lower in the ladder than it used to be. Shame, I miss the days where I could level up a class by taking a deck made of the cards I had for it and make it to 13 or so without much trouble. Hopefully once the people who are creative and have a process for making decks beyond just google searches start figuring out things, and maybe the new season starts, the ladder will be less cancerous. Also, Dragon Priest is a hard counter to Token Paladin. The ones I've seen run 2 Holy Novas, which are devastating, and that 1/4 "if I can has dragon, +1 attack and taunt" card trades really well.
+TheZedman5000 Try changing out your deck? I began playing hearthstone this month and have dabbled in a few decks but I love to play my own dragon paladin; my cards are limited, I don't always make the best plays but it is suuuuper fun and enjoyable (something I feel net decks lack)... I no its not a huge accomplishment but I got to rank 12 today and found that throughout each stage of the ranks a lot more decks are common... I would use a more aggro based deck to get to rank 14, then your deck should do better as I find that Totem Shaman is more common... You just have to counter the meta basically... All I know I'm afraid; for I am still but a noob :P
+TheZedman5000 lol you think rank 15 is where the netdecking begins. No, thats when you stop playing against the baddies. You need to plan around your opponents hand and understand tempo and then you will start moving ahead.
Aaron Dias The patron warriors I saw were more budget variants but they had the cards they needed, once september starts it should all level out again. TheMasterAssassin32 I've actually somehow done better today and gone up a few ranks, so really the problem's been solved by luck and a few minor changes.
Snobby Gamer Totem Shaman I can beat, Dragon Priest wrecks me if they decide to hold onto Ysera in their opening hand or something, buff priest loses to my Eadric and 2 Follow De Ruleses, but unfortunately during those dark times I was ranting about I was stuck in a rut of decks that work until Legend even if the player is awful.
The reason patron and face hunter are so popular is because they're cheap as hell to make. I haven;t played hearthstone since beta and came back to find that i could afford face hunter already. I played a few games as it but got so bored, then realized that the patron deck that i fucking hated playing against was really strong so i earned up enough gold for the first wing of blackrock and the first wing of naxx. All i need now is the nax wing with deathsbite and then my patron deck wont be as worthless as it is now. But it is still playable at the moment.
wh4t 700 gold is not hard to save up. Takes less than a week, look at the other decks. You can drop upwards of 300$ and still not have the cards you need for a deck like control warrior.
+Bk Big Fish 700 gold in less than a week? Sure if you play the game already and know it. As a beginner that has to deal with a lot of losses this takes a month.
Thoran666 maybe a little over a week, but you just need to do the daily quests every 3 days and hit the X to try and achieve all 60 gold reward dailies
Bk Big Fish it's 11.6 days if you max this tactic out. Since you won't get lucky every time it will probably be closer to two weeks. Beginners cannot be expected to know this and log in every day to check/change their dailies. This is a grind fest worse than Diablo! I mean what other game do you know where you spend 500$ and don't even get all the good stuff?
I have played 52 games on last season day, from rank 9 to rank 5. Only five match ups were against warrior and only one of them was patron. So patron is not that popular as you say. I met 10 hunters tho and half of them were face hunters.
Im not a patron player (not really, from time to time) but i really dont want it to be nerfed AT ALL! its so fun to play against with many decks, and its fun playing decks that are meant to just play against patrons during the last week of the month >:D
25:05 What a wimp! Conceeded with 23 health, a minion and a weapon, just because his little Grim Patron plan didnt work! Next Game: "Give him no time to conceed" Thumbed up for that. P.S: What kind of no lifes inhabit legend rank, that they require strategies to prevent them from conceeding? Asking as someone whos never made it past rank 14
Kripp, there is like this card wich gives all minnions you summon charge, when they have like less than 2 attack or health (dont know the name) and then there is this new card wich always summons an 1/1 when it dies as deathrattle, so you cant kill it. How about putting them together, so your 1/1 will get charge everytime it dies, so it can clear a whole board aone? Would be funny to see :)
NestedQuantifier Nah, ive seen both cards in one hand, think it was HysteriA. And thats a pretty op combo. Would like to see it in ranked if thats possible, but i think its only possible by using theese cards, wich clone others for the enemy
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HEY GUYS DID YOU HEAR? KRIPP HIT LEGEND. DON'T THINK HE SAID THAT YET.
kapperino
He made a video about it
+Joe ty for clearing that up
*****
I didnt see the kapperino part my bad
+Alex K. Giopanos It's fine, you accidentaly made it work in the way I assumed it was meant: "He even fucking made a video about it"
+stevenxdd Again? I'm pretty sure she can only die once...
"CHARGE BACKWARD"
"A fight? Count me out"
EVERYONE GET OUT OF HERE! EVERYONE GET OUT OF HERE! EVERYONE GET OUT OF HERE!
my blade be quenched!
+Callie French patron warrior.
+maurits meijers You fail. Quenched is closer to the opposite of thirsty
+Callie Armor? We're out of your size, I'm afraid.
+AscendedFish armor. Made to be too big or too small.
7:24 "Everyone get the fuck out"
why is patron w and face hunter the most common decks? because they are cheap i love HS but im not spending hundreds of dollars to get all the cards when i can beat almost every deck with those two
+Csaba Székely 1400? Nah, you need 3500. 4 wings for Mad Scientist, 1 wing for Quick Shot.
+Infinity Sparks i dosent really take that long to get 3500 gold do. but takes alot more time to get like a control warrior
TheCombatLegend If you're smart with your quests and can turn a profit in arena, sure. However, new players so often can accomplish neither.
+Chester Cheetah why you gotta use bad words against people online..... you must have a hard life if you used that hate on someone on the Internet , just know my friend you are never alone in life
***** emm no.. i use gold why would i spent money on something i can get with in game currency maybe u cant get pass 2 wins in arena. PS: even if i spent $50 you may not know this but 50 is under a 100 :^)
0:00 no more skipping Kappa
Kripp skippers are retarded PogChamp
+Johannes Fellner fuck off my mom will do what she wants
One does not skipperino Kripperino post-Legenderino
No more Skipperino Kripperino Casualrino
what does kappa and pogchamp mean?
what does kappa and pogchamp mean?
"get the outta here"
Kripp tried to type the title as "Everyone Get The Fuck Outta Here" but Rania installed a salt shield which deleted "fuck" from the title
Get the TuckFrump Outta Here
Ive noticed pirate priests swarming the meta recently, but luckily mill hunter hard counters it. You wont have to worry about the rank 23 pirate priests anymore :) No problem
+Rufus Barnes fukking coin double footman rogue is literally a wall on my roadto20
Guys please. I'm crying. Please stop. Stop before someone new sees. Please.
+NoFutureForG0uda My Real enemy on my roadto20 is the coin double bor paladin with lights justice on turn two
+Mr Wesp double Light's Justice beats me every time
NoFutureForG0uda Stahp, please.
Don't mind the Patron really, it's the mechanics of how everything works that I feel is OP. Ok so they can spawn forever, that's great board clear for a weak deck, then comes the Frothing who gains attack for each thing that gets damaged and this combined with whirlwinds and deathbite plays can make an insane Frothing minion, but whatever big creatures are not new, IMO the busted mechanic is the Warsong Commander, it should allow them to have charge if their attack is 3 or less, not give them charge, so once a minion has more than 3 attack the charge mechanic should no longer work.
And yeah I'm sure a bunch of Patron warriors are going to disagree, that's their right so have at it, but frankly I don't care if they disagree :D It seems in general Blizzard lets mechanics/combos get out of hand for the late game, and often it doesn't require anything more than literally "not playing" with cards until you have all the pieces for a particular combo.
+Mike B You're one of These People, who think Patron is easy to Play, right?...
+RunderKeks28 Well, it is easy to play. The two things that you gotta keep track on are:
1. Don't throw your combo pieces to waste: Warsong Commander, Grim Patron & Frothing Berserker
2. How much dmg you can dish out with Frothing Berserker. Which almost doesn't count, since you always have enough.
Like srly, the most common mistake I've seen is either throwing WS Commander to charge acolyte for draw or throw patron/frothing without the charge.
I'm pretty sure it is not the hardest one to play... It is pretty overpowered though for a low price...
+RunderKeks28 Easy to play? Debatable. Un-fun and overpowered? Absolutely. I think he was making the latter point.
Vindy YT And you just have to wait until that Point, since your Opponent will just pass every turn, right?
But you probably went to legend with Patron already, so who am I telling, right?
Okay, let's do this: Skip the Kripp at 6:42
thx boss.
+jUSt Lonelyreign He is lying it is at 4:20
I've been looking for this comment you literally saved my life
Wew saved my life
"Man, a Flame Imp would be nice" *gets Flame Imp*
*opponent draws into War Axe* "Oh man, nice draw. You should show me how you do that."
So many people trying to get likes by telling people where to skip the kripp(6:42) smh guys.
I really want see the "How good is..." videos with the new cards
He probably just has to do more testing with them or get more clips with the cards, they'll be here soon but I'm like you I love those!
+SrEstroncio he usually focuses those videos about arena stuff, and he's not playing that much arena lately. With the current season about to end he'll probably ditch constructed and return to arena, so hopefully we get more of those videos in the near future :)
+SrEstroncio helten might be sick so we have to wait
Why? We just skip that boring shit anyway.
Kripp conquering the Hearthstone ladder, one Dreadsteed at a time. :)
I played 5 face hunters in a row yesterday in ranked.
+Person Yu I played 5 freeze mages in a row yesterday naked.
+Cocoabytes I played 5 pirate priest in a row yesterday...
+Cocoabytes I played 5 pirate priest in a row yesterday...
+SKT555666 I played 5 aggro priests in a row yesterday in ranked.
I got 5 cancer in a row in twitch chat
Watching his old videos is really making me realise why skipperino Kripperino exists... he really waffles on before WotOG...
7:23 New favorite Kripp moment
Final TGT card review sure is a classic throwback all the way back to a couple weeks ago.
22:40. This is why Kripp is the best.
23:30 The beauty of control warrior...
that lock deck at the end was fast as hell...fire. damn flame imp lol
How to get rid of Patron Warriors and Face Hunters? Make other decks aquirable for F2P players. Currently decks requiring specific classic/GvG/TGT cards are hard to aquire. Getting legendary by buying packs with hard earned gold? Yeah... good luck with that :P. Luckily they made arena drop random pack instead the newest, so classic cards are not that hard to get as it was before. But for the other hand the new card set is so big that getting important legendaries from TGT like dunno... Varian Wrynn from arena awards and buying packs with earned gold is even smaller than getting Dr. Balanced :P
That's not the problem. Even player with every card play patron warrior. It's just patron warrior and hunter are really strong
+shuvo rahman The problem is that other decks that are on par with Patron Warrior or Face Hunter cost much more to make.
+Fartuess just change the starting life to 40 both of those are dead
Thaynara Moreira That would totally distort the balance. Aggro decks would suffer, and some of combo and OTK decks too. Basically it would nerf everything besides control decks. And totally everything that F2P players can play. If you kill Face Hunter, Patron Warrior and cancerous aggro decks, then F2P players will not have any good decks. The solution is not to take away the only two decks they can play successfully, but give them capabilites of creating more decks. Instead of increasing character life to 40 i would reduce cost of classic pack from 100gold to something like 40 and see how things go from there. That should allow constructing control decks for F2P like dunno... Freeze Mage or Handlock.
+Fartuess Varian Wrynn is the last of an F2P's worries, as there are many, many more cards to acquire before that one.
After so many videos, I find out at the begining he says: "Hey guys how is it going, Kripparrian here."
I have always thought he says: "Hey guys how it's going companion."
WELL THAT MAKES SENSE NOW my life will never be the same
6:42
Since Skipperino isn't here.
thx
I think an effective nerf to Grim Patron would be "Whenever this minion survives damages, spawn an exact copy of this minion." This would limit the splitting in warriors, and bring about a new type of Patron deck, with buffs like Paladin or Priest.
Are we just going to ignore that Secret paladin exists? I feel like that's one of the best decks in the game right now.
My favourite sound is the OOOOOH sound that the patrons make when they die
I didn't face that many patrons, the deck i faced the most today was the secret paladin and midrange hunter
6:42 Skiparino the Kripparino Ameno
As druid I find that holding on to plague seeds or starfall works decently. Other then that... Try and keep board presence. FoN/power of the wild doe a decent job as well. But don't get too many units out. A warsong commander on turn 10 will mess you up big time if they play a berserker as well.
I've never skipped Kripp, but I always check the comments just to know how long he'll be talking for.
I don't know why I like knowing that beforehand.
I love your two Warlock Decks. They are new and creative. Inspiring!
How do you get a list at the side of your screen with your deck and the minions you've played already?
I just started playing Patron again since the release and you make a video on it the same day, that's hilarious
Most of the people at rank 5 to low legend were playing alot of tgt decks, most of them(like 7 or 8 out of 10) being secret paladin and rest of them being kripp's hunter, dragon warrior or dragon priest.
The grim patron deck is good and popular because there's so many cancer decks that flood the board with minions. If you play a control deck with aoe (flamestrike) and removal cards then patron warrior is easy to beat.
+Snufkin224 exept priest, priest just die to a berserker combo
Most of the time it is not the Patron that kills you, instead it is the Berserker that OTK if there are only a few minions on your board and Warrior got the right draws what he probably does because the deck has (if you didn't notice somehow) a TON of card draw
+Luis Garza Auchenai Soulpriest + Circle of Healing
+John Xue not that usefull if they have charge...
+Snufkin224 Except not really though, since Patron can otk from no board with berserkers. But keep thinking Patron is easy to beat with any deck that stands a chance on ladder =)
7:22 best retort
Daaaamn Kripps beard is growing fast :O 14:18
you're wrong though, the deck i've been finding more is secret pally, that's at legend rank in EU.
Rank 6-4 was almost all tgt decks yesterday the first day of the expansion though I think everybody wanted to test cards and decks out in casual rather than ranked.
I really hope they don't nerf Grim Patron warrior, I am still sad they killed miracle rogue, that was also a very fun deck to watch.
If anything needs to be nerfed into oblivion it's the cancer decks like hunter rush, pala rush and warlock zoo.
+Darth Mortus Hunter only has like a 50% win rate and there's no way to nerf it without just plain ruining cards that don't need nerfs. Zoo is also impossible to nerf for the same reason, nothing in it needs a nerf.
Paladin though, oh my god fuck that shit. It's like Face Hunter but you need to hit everything twice.
+Lennon1398 you nerf hunter by giving control more viable cards against aggro which aren't dead against other control decks or combo decks. TGT has gone a nice way towards that with some pretty nice heal cards which aren't utterly useless against non-aggro decks, but there's still a long way to go to bring huntard and zoo into the realm of the reasonable.
I agree with you on paladin though. That kind of stuff is just vomitive. Some of that stuff can do with a nerf indeed. And we -really- need more anti-divine shield cards which are decent and competent on their own, as bloodknight is again a card that against that specific deck is sick, but against the rest is just useless.
ramjb I dunno man control has some pretty good cards to beat Hunter with. I have lots of experience playing both decktypes and all you need to beat a Hunter is like 2 earlier taunts or something that kills a bunch of their shit for free. Refreshment Vendor is pretty good since in a control matchup the extra health they get likely won't matter at all and against Aggro it can win you the game by itself since not only does it heal you, but it kills several creatures by itself.
Many people think control is worse off than it is.
+Darth Mortus No you got it all wrong, they need to nerf mill shaman.
I just made a Control Hunter list as a joke and it's working.
When I first played grimm patron warrior, my version when it cames out, and some other's guys version, I ofund it pretty fun, but it's hard to pull out the combo, and early phase is really bad if you don't have some key cards. I would of never expected it to be constructed good
"Heyguyshowsitgoingkripparianhere" is the only reason I watch these videos anymore.
"Everyone Get the Outta Here" plz fix
What do you think about Mogor in the Dreadsteed deck?
Have to say, that was rather satisfying to watch!
Hey Kripp have you tried your dreadsteed deck with undertaker? every time it respawns you get +1+1
I wanted the first clip to drop a doomsayer from the shredder so much.
Hey Kripp, what do you think about the Murlocadin deck? I hadn't seen or heard of it until today when I got destroyed by one. First Murloc he got out of the Murloc Knight (which was in his starting hand) was Old Murk-Eye, and you can imagine how fucked I got after all of the divine shields he could play.
+Sir Audiate I specifically mean the cards that go into it that make it exist the way it does, namely Murloc Knight.
I feel like Shaman can run some great hate against Patron Warrior. Elemental Destruction, (Spell Damage)+Lightning Storm is 4 full board clears, enough to clear their Patronspam and any Frothing Berserkers. Couple that with 2 Healing Waves (and higher cost minions than the Patron deck) to rise above any non-fatal combos, then just bring your Totem Golems and other 3+ attack minions to the field.
I play rank 5-10 and half of the decks I met was paladin secret (the other half was hunter) , and almost none patron.
Kripp - 29:43....why not attack face? By attacking Patron, he ends up with 1 more 3/3 instead of a 3/2 and you could have gotten rid of 4 of his armor instead of 3 of yours. I realize that ultimately it makes little difference because clearing the board basically equates to winning, but it still seems to me like a bit of a misplay.
BTW - I don't say this as a criticism. You are far more experienced than I, but watching your videos, I'm also pretty sure you are also interested in continuously improving.
To be fair, it's not uncommon for card games to release relatively unimpressive sets and a lot of people do actually view this set as below the bar. But that's a good thing because it establishes what lines need to be crossed before the meta changes. Also, what might seem uninspired now might be seen in every deck in the future. Eventually there will be a time where Grim Patron and Face Hunter are relics of the distant past. This will inevitably happen over the natural course of the game.
I didn't encounter that many completely TGT free decks on ladder at the end of the month...
patron warrior is the best deck period.
Not only is cheap, flexible, hard to play but also it can beat pretty much both control and aggro, it also has the most insane draw mechanic in the game (battle rage), im surprised blizzard didnt nerfed.
How hard would it be for them to make a card like Lorewalker. A 0/4 legendary 3 or 4 crystals that has "silence" effect. It would read "No effects can trigger while this is on the board" No battle cries, no death rattles, no constant effects. All effects fail. That would be an interesting type of card to play with if you could stealth it. Call it annoyed librarian or something stupid.
I dont know what ur talking about Kripp the only deck im playing against right now is secret pally (at around rank 3-1)
Maybe change it so that it only spawns a new patron when it survives damage at full health? Maybe a change to war song so that a creature looses charge from her if it's attack exceeds 3 the turn it receives charge from warsong. In my opinion, Patron really isn't had hard as people make it out to be, Draw and survive,, get a good Emperor turn when you got the combo pieces, lethal for so much damage that you OTK control warriors at 40 effective health/armour.
What's the deck tracker Kripp uses? Can anyone tell me please?
Did you hear Kripp got legend? He won't let you forget.
@2:00 or not all people have money to buy all the tournament cards at once
I think Kripp forgot that the average player didnt spend $500 on TGT.
Most people dont have enough TGT cards to make the new TGT decks.
The ladder is actually full of the new Mysterious Challenger Paladin Secret deck, because its a pretty cheap deck to make. Only needs a few TGT cards and no legendaries.
Give it about 2-3 months before you see TGT decks allover the meta. Maybe 1 month for Legend rank, since people there tend to spend more on packs.
I bet that Magni warrior was crying his eyes out.
what card tracker does kripp use?
mabye add a effect universally that made when you have 4 of the same creature on the board, they all get destroyed. counters mass patron combo
I'm currently stuck at rank 15-16 (like lose the first star of 15, destroy the rank 16 scrub, get my precious star back, lose it to Mech Mage or Patron Warrior, rinse and repeat) with my Token Paladin deck (I didn't expect it to go much higher than this considering how little I do ranked) and I was surprised by this apparent wall where decks suddenly change to netdecks, where fun disappears and is replaced by grinding, at a place much lower in the ladder than it used to be. Shame, I miss the days where I could level up a class by taking a deck made of the cards I had for it and make it to 13 or so without much trouble.
Hopefully once the people who are creative and have a process for making decks beyond just google searches start figuring out things, and maybe the new season starts, the ladder will be less cancerous.
Also, Dragon Priest is a hard counter to Token Paladin. The ones I've seen run 2 Holy Novas, which are devastating, and that 1/4 "if I can has dragon, +1 attack and taunt" card trades really well.
+TheZedman5000 Try changing out your deck? I began playing hearthstone this month and have dabbled in a few decks but I love to play my own dragon paladin; my cards are limited, I don't always make the best plays but it is suuuuper fun and enjoyable (something I feel net decks lack)... I no its not a huge accomplishment but I got to rank 12 today and found that throughout each stage of the ranks a lot more decks are common... I would use a more aggro based deck to get to rank 14, then your deck should do better as I find that Totem Shaman is more common... You just have to counter the meta basically... All I know I'm afraid; for I am still but a noob :P
+TheZedman5000 lol you think rank 15 is where the netdecking begins. No, thats when you stop playing against the baddies. You need to plan around your opponents hand and understand tempo and then you will start moving ahead.
Aaron Dias The patron warriors I saw were more budget variants but they had the cards they needed, once september starts it should all level out again.
TheMasterAssassin32 I've actually somehow done better today and gone up a few ranks, so really the problem's been solved by luck and a few minor changes.
+TheZedman5000 My buff Priest, dragon priest, Totem Shaman and much more TGT cheese works fine until 8-7 rank. Sometimes rank 10-9.
Snobby Gamer Totem Shaman I can beat, Dragon Priest wrecks me if they decide to hold onto Ysera in their opening hand or something, buff priest loses to my Eadric and 2 Follow De Ruleses, but unfortunately during those dark times I was ranting about I was stuck in a rut of decks that work until Legend even if the player is awful.
What deck is he playing at 26:50
Discard zoo? idfk
The reason patron and face hunter are so popular is because they're cheap as hell to make. I haven;t played hearthstone since beta and came back to find that i could afford face hunter already. I played a few games as it but got so bored, then realized that the patron deck that i fucking hated playing against was really strong so i earned up enough gold for the first wing of blackrock and the first wing of naxx. All i need now is the nax wing with deathsbite and then my patron deck wont be as worthless as it is now. But it is still playable at the moment.
Lol 4 adventure wings are cheap? Sure.
wh4t 700 gold is not hard to save up. Takes less than a week, look at the other decks. You can drop upwards of 300$ and still not have the cards you need for a deck like control warrior.
+Bk Big Fish 700 gold in less than a week? Sure if you play the game already and know it. As a beginner that has to deal with a lot of losses this takes a month.
Thoran666 maybe a little over a week, but you just need to do the daily quests every 3 days and hit the X to try and achieve all 60 gold reward dailies
Bk Big Fish it's 11.6 days if you max this tactic out. Since you won't get lucky every time it will probably be closer to two weeks. Beginners cannot be expected to know this and log in every day to check/change their dailies. This is a grind fest worse than Diablo!
I mean what other game do you know where you spend 500$ and don't even get all the good stuff?
I run Chillmaw in my decks, mostly because why, it was the only decent legendary I pulled.
Warsong commander + deadsteed combo? Clear the whole board? Any ideas? :D
Don't forget knife juggler.
+Patrick Qi See the last Trolden video. Someone did faceless manipulator on warsong and cleared the entire patron board. Took lot of time tough.
+AlternateName And the Undertaker synergy.
Kripp, could you showcase your most aggressive deck if possible. Thank you.
I think you missed out on the whole secret paladin craze kripp.
What's a good deck against grim patron?
GIVE HIM NO TIME TO CONCEDE. thats like the best felt BM ever.
This might just be variance, or maybe legend rank is just different. At rank 5 about 4/5 people I play are the new secret paladin.
6:44 - To skipperino the kripperino cappucino no frappucino.
Thats crazy, im currently at rank 1, two stars and im not seeing any patron or face hunter, its all secret paladins for me
I have played 52 games on last season day, from rank 9 to rank 5. Only five match ups were against warrior and only one of them was patron. So patron is not that popular as you say. I met 10 hunters tho and half of them were face hunters.
15:02 why?
I tried to craft grim patron but when I searched it grim patron didn't show up
That time of the month, huh?
"Everyone get the outta here!" GJ Kripp, GJ.
23:30 .. Earthen ring farseer + inner rage + whirlwind
Haven't seen any patrons yet (I'm rank 2 Rn)
Why the card who copy the enemy hero power doesen't work -_-
Im not a patron player (not really, from time to time) but i really dont want it to be nerfed AT ALL! its so fun to play against with many decks, and its fun playing decks that are meant to just play against patrons during the last week of the month >:D
hey i added an argent horserider to my face hunter deck am i shaping the meta yet?
Just lower their health to 2? It will force people to have to use rampage and cut out some vital cards just to make it sorta work
Everyone is playing exactly four tgt cards. Two competitive spirit and two mysterious challengers.
"Give him no time to concede" fucking loled
shaman based on spell damage (and here im talking mostly about earth shock lightning bolt and lightning storm) also equals "Everyone Get Outta Here!"
7:07 Everyone get the fuck outta here! Best moment haha
I love that look of what I can only describe as "orgasmic joy" when Kripp kills that last warrior.
i loved the bm at the end lol
25:05 What a wimp! Conceeded with 23 health, a minion and a weapon, just because his little Grim Patron plan didnt work!
Next Game:
"Give him no time to conceed"
Thumbed up for that.
P.S: What kind of no lifes inhabit legend rank, that they require strategies to prevent them from conceeding?
Asking as someone whos never made it past rank 14
Kripp, there is like this card wich gives all minnions you summon charge, when they have like less than 2 attack or health (dont know the name) and then there is this new card wich always summons an 1/1 when it dies as deathrattle, so you cant kill it. How about putting them together, so your 1/1 will get charge everytime it dies, so it can clear a whole board aone? Would be funny to see :)
+Death The Cat warsong commander is a warrior card, while dreadsteed is a warlock card.
NestedQuantifier Nah, ive seen both cards in one hand, think it was HysteriA. And thats a pretty op combo. Would like to see it in ranked if thats possible, but i think its only possible by using theese cards, wich clone others for the enemy
+Death The Cat wow you're stupid
Bballguy1121 Naah, ive seen a video and want to know if its possible in ranked.. its not stupid, im just no 24/7 heartstone player :)
how good is demonfuse soon ?
So funny to see CorpTunnels basically not knowing what to do without grim and frothing.
Kripp has made the Th3Rat infamous. I wonder if that player is even aware
Losing that 50:50 at the end was so hard to watch. Completely ruined the BM for me.
Why dont you play anima golem? it has great sinergy with pony