@@heroman1322after running some heroics i feel like archon i still easier to play 😂 cause if there are downtime and you can't do the second void torrent, then you have to hold it for the next dark accesion.
I've been playing mostly melee for the majority of my time in wow. When I do play ranged it's always ele sham or frost mage. I've decided to play shadow priest after getting over how difficult I thought it was. I'm still learning but I'm having a blast! And I'm glad I've given it a try. I found your video extremely helpful! Thank you!
Thanks for all of the information. I have been playing both Voidweaver and Archon to try both out. I definitely agree that VW is so much cooler and fun to play, I enjoy everything about it, plus IMO the flow is better. However, I can't ignore the power behind Archon, but it's not terrible to play either. I recently started following you and plan to stick around. You got some juicy info which helps open my mind to more scenarios. Edit: Remove some words and fix errors.
Glad you're enjoying both specs! I think right now with heroic dungeons being the hardest content voidweaver is better. Fingers crossed it might get a buff before the season starts and it'll be down to picking which spec you prefer to play without any pressure 🤞
I want to be a VoidWeaver SP! Loving being back in retail, I'm truly excited for the Wold Soul Sage seeing how I skipped Dragonflight. Thank you for the video!
@@enigmabis. What do you main? And it's the easy answer but I'd say alt the one you enjoy most! Both very different playstyles for sure. I'm biased towards shadow of course
@@BiteSizeWoW I main mage, as i have for the last 15 years so im spoiled with always being good dps + good mobilty/defensives haha but ive always alted hunter or shadow, but ya looking at current shadow they seem to be too much of a standing turret and seems like gonna have to wait for another balance update hopefully before raid release for them to get that extra dps push - but ya in general ive always loved the theme of shadow and multidotting, just sad they dont have any fast mobility button etc
It's a tough time to nail shadows rotation right now with mobs dying so fast, no m0/m+/raid, but keep at it and you'll nail it! Which hero tree are you preferring to play with?
Both solid picks, comes down to if you prefer melee or range for that choice I would say. Remember we have nearly 3 weeks before season 1 with virtually no content with time limits or pressure.. so take the time to level both, chill and enjoy them and make the choice for season 1 start, that'd be my advice ^^
@@BiteSizeWoW yep. We can also main multiple chars imo. Playing different specs is most fun for me. Priest is looking juicy gotta admit. Dk and shaman i tested quite a bit and love both. Maybe priest third 😄
Hey! If you check out the video description and follow the pastebin link, where it says '' archon ST with shadow crash '' it keeps 1 minute mindbender with a relatively good 'hybrid' build between ST and AoE !
Currently DA is the best choice for voidweaver :(, but unless you're doing top end content, of course you can. It's certainly not unplayable, just sub optimal
Yeah, so essentially, just before TWW released Blizz changed it so that we can hold up to 4 mind flay insanity procs, it was previously just 2. So we can fit in the full opener making use of our mind blasts/void torrent/devouring plagues/void bolts etc, and not overcap on mind flay insanity procs. If it was still the case that we could only hold 2, we would use them sooner in the rotation. As long as you arent sat on 4 stacks of mind flay insanity, you're ok to wait on it and make sure other abilities get used first. Publiks shadow Weakaura has been updated recently to show all 4 charges of mind flay insanity which is extremely helpful for this
As a general rule no, but with voidweavers end talent making every devouring plague cast (when entropic rifts active) increase the damage and size of entropic rift, I've been trying it out and it seems like it gets good results in aoe!
Out of the shadow hero trees? They're both similar difficulty, I'd try both and see what takes your attention, voidweaver is likely better suited for most for levelling to the new max level. Although, shadow isn't the easiest spec if you are coming brand new from classic? If it was out of any spec in the game for someone coming from classic I would recommend BM hunter
I believe it's because halo has a cast time so using it after a full opener and void eruption would desync our cooldowns quite heavily. By using the first one out of void eruption and the rest inside void eruption it minimises desync
Sure! So I don't use too many macros, important ones I'd suggest though I will link in this pastebin - pastebin.com/ijmUPF1d So Power infusion - I just macro it with other things like a dps potion, on use trinket, and this also enables you to simply right click someone, press focus on them, and then when you power infusion yourself it also does it to them automatically (with the priest talent twins of the sun priestess) Angelic feather - essentially it just places the feather at your mouse cursor so you dont need to fiddle about placing it on the floor Dispersion - allows you to cancel your dispersion pressing the same key you use to go into dispersion Shadow Crash - similar to feather, uses shadow crash where your cursor is so you dont need to mess around placing the reticle Also in general, if you're just coming back.. just be patient and stick with it, as with all things practice makes perfect! Make use of training dummies and just keep going with it and you develop a flow : ) ofcourse, if it turns out you simply don't enjoy shadow (the busy, multidot playstyle isn't for everyone) try out some other classes and see what works for you, I really enjoy Mage and Priest but used to main a death knight many moons ago!
Shadow Priest doesn’t see full potential until like M+ 6-8 (even that’s still a little low) or better. Nothing stays alive long enough to do any damage in lower dungeons. You just do what you can.
Absolutely, it's in the description my friend! It's from Quazii. I link his youtube video for his plater profile so I don't take away any of his views etc and give him full credit for the best plater profile I've ever used : )
Didn't want to talk too much about base kit type of stuff and draw the video out detailing every ability, just wanted to get the core rotation in with a dummy demonstration. I also in "normal scenarios" quite often like to save sw:D if I know upcoming movement is required so that I have more instant casts to keep dpsing on the move. Ofc procs / rng / execute range mobs / movement etc can all change things and require on the fly adaptation
Hey. So, if you have minds eye talented (dev plague costs 5 less insanity), no we don't spread our DP. Just pick a priority/long lived target and focus them. However if you take the other option with that talent node, distorted reality (Increases the damage of Devouring Plague by 20% and increases its duration to 12 seconds) then you would spread the devouring plagues around for maximum DPS. The majority of the time you will likely just take minds eye and not need to spread DP. Hope this helped
Hmm.. subjective. Id say it's somewhere in the middle. It's pretty easy to pick up but mastering it can be quite tough and a lot of people are put off by the lack of mobility
Good to know voidweaver is not that far behind. I think I'm gonna play void weaver until we push higher keys ❤
Same here! I’m excited for both, but voidweaver having smaller downtime sounds fun for bgs or lower end content
@@heroman1322after running some heroics i feel like archon i still easier to play 😂 cause if there are downtime and you can't do the second void torrent, then you have to hold it for the next dark accesion.
I've been playing mostly melee for the majority of my time in wow. When I do play ranged it's always ele sham or frost mage. I've decided to play shadow priest after getting over how difficult I thought it was. I'm still learning but I'm having a blast! And I'm glad I've given it a try.
I found your video extremely helpful! Thank you!
Glad to hear it and thankyou so much
same here
Thanks for all of the information. I have been playing both Voidweaver and Archon to try both out. I definitely agree that VW is so much cooler and fun to play, I enjoy everything about it, plus IMO the flow is better. However, I can't ignore the power behind Archon, but it's not terrible to play either.
I recently started following you and plan to stick around. You got some juicy info which helps open my mind to more scenarios.
Edit: Remove some words and fix errors.
Glad you're enjoying both specs! I think right now with heroic dungeons being the hardest content voidweaver is better. Fingers crossed it might get a buff before the season starts and it'll be down to picking which spec you prefer to play without any pressure 🤞
Thanks dude! Haven't really played since Shadowlands so excited to jump back in on launch day and I will reference this video later!
Welcome back !
This was so good! Thank you so much for this guide. Love the tips, I am mastering the class and it was so good to watch.
Thankyou so much!
Finally a good guide on a class ... Jesus how hard it is to find good guides on wow nowadays 😅
Means a lot thankyou
Going into mythic raid with shadow and created during remix, this really helps
Thats what we are waiting for! Hyped!
I want to be a VoidWeaver SP! Loving being back in retail, I'm truly excited for the Wold Soul Sage seeing how I skipped Dragonflight. Thank you for the video!
Play it and enjoy it my friend! 💜
will these halos ninja pull everything in m+?
No! Don't worry about that at all - they only hit what you're in combat with
@@BiteSizeWoW oh! Makes sense, ok cus im ttying to figure out if i should alt shadow or ele shaman atm😅
@@enigmabis. What do you main? And it's the easy answer but I'd say alt the one you enjoy most! Both very different playstyles for sure. I'm biased towards shadow of course
@@BiteSizeWoW I main mage, as i have for the last 15 years so im spoiled with always being good dps + good mobilty/defensives haha but ive always alted hunter or shadow, but ya looking at current shadow they seem to be too much of a standing turret and seems like gonna have to wait for another balance update hopefully before raid release for them to get that extra dps push - but ya in general ive always loved the theme of shadow and multidotting, just sad they dont have any fast mobility button etc
Great video man thank you a lot. I will follow your guide for sure! I have some problem with my rotation atm but your video going to help !!
It's a tough time to nail shadows rotation right now with mobs dying so fast, no m0/m+/raid, but keep at it and you'll nail it! Which hero tree are you preferring to play with?
@@BiteSizeWoW ty!!! The Archon one :D
Thats a helpful Guide 😅 You got that sub 🎉
Great guide!
Do you have a video on your UI setup it’s very clean
Coming soon!
The all knowledge is mine now ahahaha (evil laugh) ! the only guide I need after 15y of holy priest thanks man great video like sub share !
Thanks!
Thanks a lot ! ❤
Absolutely my pleasure
Thanks for the video :)
I'm taking void waiver with void eruption just for the aesthetics.
if that explosion from collapsing void wasn't split dmg it would be huge :D
Hahaha yeah it'd be crazy. And probably overpowered. But that doesn't stop me wishing it were true 🤣😂
@@BiteSizeWoW Well they could add 2 version
1.) For single target (bigger dmg and split dmg)
2.) For aoe (less dmg, but no split dmg)
Cheers matey gd guide
I hope I made the right decision to main Shadow over Enhancement
Both solid picks, comes down to if you prefer melee or range for that choice I would say. Remember we have nearly 3 weeks before season 1 with virtually no content with time limits or pressure.. so take the time to level both, chill and enjoy them and make the choice for season 1 start, that'd be my advice ^^
@@BiteSizeWoW yep. We can also main multiple chars imo. Playing different specs is most fun for me. Priest is looking juicy gotta admit. Dk and shaman i tested quite a bit and love both. Maybe priest third 😄
Love your work ,thank you very much for your tips and sharing. I can't find your plater profile in the description, can you share it?
It's the quazii video in the description my friend, I link his video to not take anything away from his views etc
I gonna enjoy voidweaver while I can, to me archon its extremely disappointing when it comes to thematic and visuals
That's fair! Play voidweaver 💯💪
Hi, love your work. wondering about some "hybrid" M+ build where you get to keep 1min shadowfiend. Thoughts? thx
Hey! If you check out the video description and follow the pastebin link, where it says '' archon ST with shadow crash '' it keeps 1 minute mindbender with a relatively good 'hybrid' build between ST and AoE !
For the voidweaver talents, could you take void form over dark ascension?
Currently DA is the best choice for voidweaver :(, but unless you're doing top end content, of course you can. It's certainly not unplayable, just sub optimal
Do i use the empowered mind flay at the end of this rotation for archon?
Yeah, so essentially, just before TWW released Blizz changed it so that we can hold up to 4 mind flay insanity procs, it was previously just 2. So we can fit in the full opener making use of our mind blasts/void torrent/devouring plagues/void bolts etc, and not overcap on mind flay insanity procs. If it was still the case that we could only hold 2, we would use them sooner in the rotation. As long as you arent sat on 4 stacks of mind flay insanity, you're ok to wait on it and make sure other abilities get used first. Publiks shadow Weakaura has been updated recently to show all 4 charges of mind flay insanity which is extremely helpful for this
do you just spam DP after void torrent if u have enough insanity?
As a general rule no, but with voidweavers end talent making every devouring plague cast (when entropic rifts active) increase the damage and size of entropic rift, I've been trying it out and it seems like it gets good results in aoe!
Does the void Weaver void eruption buff change this at all? or does void Weaver still play dark ascension?
currently, unfortunately, voidweaver pairs better with dark ascension, archon uses void eruption
please my friend talk abit slowier , nice content,love you!
Thanks for the feedback! I'll take a look into that, usually people say to talk faster and get to the point or they click away ^^
What is going to be the easier spec if you start as a classic andy?
Out of the shadow hero trees? They're both similar difficulty, I'd try both and see what takes your attention, voidweaver is likely better suited for most for levelling to the new max level. Although, shadow isn't the easiest spec if you are coming brand new from classic? If it was out of any spec in the game for someone coming from classic I would recommend BM hunter
why is it said everywhere to Halo into Void Eruption when the hero talent says that after entering Void form we get 20% bonus dmg
I believe it's because halo has a cast time so using it after a full opener and void eruption would desync our cooldowns quite heavily. By using the first one out of void eruption and the rest inside void eruption it minimises desync
@@BiteSizeWoW oh i see, ty for the answer!
Do you have a recommend list of Macros that make this smoother? I am just coming back to WoW and key management is something I struggle with
Or if you could do a video on recommended addons that would also be very helpful
Sure! So I don't use too many macros, important ones I'd suggest though I will link in this pastebin - pastebin.com/ijmUPF1d
So Power infusion - I just macro it with other things like a dps potion, on use trinket, and this also enables you to simply right click someone, press focus on them, and then when you power infusion yourself it also does it to them automatically (with the priest talent twins of the sun priestess)
Angelic feather - essentially it just places the feather at your mouse cursor so you dont need to fiddle about placing it on the floor
Dispersion - allows you to cancel your dispersion pressing the same key you use to go into dispersion
Shadow Crash - similar to feather, uses shadow crash where your cursor is so you dont need to mess around placing the reticle
Also in general, if you're just coming back.. just be patient and stick with it, as with all things practice makes perfect! Make use of training dummies and just keep going with it and you develop a flow : ) ofcourse, if it turns out you simply don't enjoy shadow (the busy, multidot playstyle isn't for everyone) try out some other classes and see what works for you, I really enjoy Mage and Priest but used to main a death knight many moons ago!
May have to do this too : ) thankyou for the suggestion my friend
@@BiteSizeWoW Thank you very much! This, along with your videos, has been very helpful and I am enjoying SP greatly
Is it normal to stay behind in dps in heroic dgs, due to how fast mobs die, even with void heroic talents?
Yeah absolutely. Classes like Ret paladin are having all the fun right now
Shadow Priest doesn’t see full potential until like M+ 6-8 (even that’s still a little low) or better. Nothing stays alive long enough to do any damage in lower dungeons. You just do what you can.
any chance to get your plater profiled mate
Absolutely, it's in the description my friend! It's from Quazii. I link his youtube video for his plater profile so I don't take away any of his views etc and give him full credit for the best plater profile I've ever used : )
@@BiteSizeWoW oh ty soo mch and thx for all the vids i love it
why do you never use shadow word death?
Didn't want to talk too much about base kit type of stuff and draw the video out detailing every ability, just wanted to get the core rotation in with a dummy demonstration. I also in "normal scenarios" quite often like to save sw:D if I know upcoming movement is required so that I have more instant casts to keep dpsing on the move.
Ofc procs / rng / execute range mobs / movement etc can all change things and require on the fly adaptation
Should we spread our DP in aoe fight or what, dont understand?
Hey. So, if you have minds eye talented (dev plague costs 5 less insanity), no we don't spread our DP. Just pick a priority/long lived target and focus them. However if you take the other option with that talent node, distorted reality (Increases the damage of Devouring Plague by 20% and increases its duration to 12 seconds) then you would spread the devouring plagues around for maximum DPS.
The majority of the time you will likely just take minds eye and not need to spread DP. Hope this helped
Thanks, love the guide :)
is the rotation of shadow priest easy now?
Hmm.. subjective. Id say it's somewhere in the middle. It's pretty easy to pick up but mastering it can be quite tough and a lot of people are put off by the lack of mobility
uhh how can i get this UI?
pastebin.com/gnPvZpRW
:)
and then my plater/weakauras are all in the description
I love your WA, could you share?
In the description my friend 😊
@@BiteSizeWoW oh god I checked it first and havent noticed. sorry! and thank you so much!
Are you a furry?