Why Did 'The Flash' (2023) Bomb At the Box Office?
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2024
- David Chen reflects on 'The Flash' (2023) and why it failed at the box office.
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Teach people to regard movies as an ongoing TV series and then announce the series's cancellation before the last episode airs. Episode flops because there's no point in staying invested. What a shock.
Sasha Calle’s Supergirl was the one of the few genuinely interesting things to come out of this movie, and it’s too bad her character won’t be expanded upon more
You mean to tell me that the focal point of the highly coveted 2022 Oscars Cheer Moment award failed to turn out a general audience opening weekend? What is this world coming to?
It’s outrageous
Apparently Ezra's shenanigans also was why cast members didn't promote it before the Writer's Strike since they didn't want to have to answer awkward questions about their conduct. Hopefully this means WB is going to stop playing his bail.
They definitely need to promote Blue Beetle as being the first character of the new DCU.
Honestly after seeing that. It looks so generic.
A weird mash of a Spider-Man like origin's story that we've seen a dozen time now. With an Iron Man like suit.
DC fan from way back, but we'll never have consistency if the methodology is "Let's copy the MCU, but worse." Good luck, Gunn!
I like the short vids Dave. Keep it up loving the YT!
The flash like black widow at Marvel, feels like too little to late & why should I care if none of this matters?...
I'm happy letting anything with the WB logo on it tank until Zaslav pays his writers.
I really liked this film and rather sad they are ending this right here. Found it a weird end credit scene though.
I love all of your videos! They are so entertaining, light hearted, and wholesome! Thank you so much Chris Wong!
Posting such a short video on UA-cam feels weird these days. I don't like shorts but this doesn't look like it's enough content for a non-short video.
Just thinking out loud. I like what you do.
Aw geez, if only Warner-Discovery had some process that they could have used to bin this movie and taken it off of their taxes before it could have ever seen the light of day. I’m not sure that they could have had another film available to work with that could have had a feature release. What a shame…
Pretty sure most normal regular people have absolutely no idea about Millers antics or the fact the DC universe is being rebooted. Most people I speak to don't even know who Ezra Miller is
Exactly.
The release schedule (at least here in Australia) is just to cramped. So many recent Superhero films, plus competition like Pixar.
Love your content but as an unsullied who haven't watched the movie yet I would have appreciated a spoiler warning or heads up that you would reveal some plot points. Cheers ❤️
The unceremonious firing of Henry Cavil
I am very interested in this version of supergirl but I can’t justify contributing to this movie’s box office
I mean, for me the fact that the Flash is played by someone who has repeatedly committed various crimes that any regular person would have a serious jail sentence for was the main reason I didn't want to watch the movie. I mean, it's kind of hard to sit back and enjoy watching Ezra Miller playing the hero when you know they committed several violent crimes and never faced any justice for that.
It also doesn't help that I can't stop thinking about how they cancelled the Batwoman movie, making it very clear that they only made the movie to be a tax write off, when they could have easily cancelled and written off the Flash without it even being suspicious. It made it kind of obvious that the studio didn't even care if everyone knew what they were doing, they just wanted to get out of paying their fair share of taxes.
Overall, with that background info it feels like everything around the movie is just spitting in the face of the very concept of law and justice, which...considering it's a superhero movie...doesn't really work.
Also I feel like we already have a Flash TV show that does a great job of capturing what I like about the Flash, so...why why watch this questionable off brand Flash?
I didn't dislike Sasha's supergirl but it wasn't my favorite either. I like Melissa's version but I would think it was perfect with a movi3 script and a few more serious tones like sasha's but I do love how sasha's version carried herself and those emotional scenes from her hit. Personally grant has the best flash but obviously these characters on the shows are in a more showfriendly script so they seem less everything compared to that of a movie regardless I said what I said
Lots of competition out there too at the moment.
will you do a comment/video on netflix's 3 body problem?
The DCEU is the most toxic brand in Hollywood. Is now, was even before the pandemic, has been since the Friday BvS premiered and excited opening night fans left the theater to tell their friends to stay away. They never recovered from the one-two punch that was 'BvS' and 'Suicide Squad' back in 2016. 'Wonder Woman' and 'Aquaman' were able to ride strong word-of-mouth to box office highs, but pretty much everything else in this series was a box office disappointment if not an outright flop, with the original 'Shazam!' and arguably 'Birds of Prey' saved only by relatively modest budgets. If you look at all the data, the day-and-date streaming releases for 'Wonder Woman 1984' and 'THE Suicide Squad' don't even look like outliers. What other movie series has released 5+ straight duds?
Something nobody talks about is there has been a Flash Tv show thats been on for seven years that dealt with a very similar plot over thoae years. Its old hand.
A few more reasons I believe this movie tanked are:
1. The trailer showed too much of the film. They didn’t do what No Way Home did, which was not show you major surprises in the trailer so you felt the movie was a must see to be a part of the conversation.
2. They took so long to release this movie it is now like the 5th or 6th multiverse movie and the audience is getting tired of the multiverse.
3. The last time this version of the Flash was in a movie was a 2021 remake of a 2017 movie.
I put this as number one on the summer movie wager. Thinking I was taking a slight gamble but it might perform like No way Home. Oopsies 😂
I know you are just throwing out a bunch of ideas, but in my case Michael Keaton was my #1 to want to go see it and Supergirl was a more distant #2 yet I didn't see the movie. So I don't think lack of interest in them explains it. Ezra being a PoS human being took a big ding out of my desire to see the movie but I probably still would have gone if reviews had been great. But the review from the people I follow (as opposed to Rotten Tomatoes which gave it 67%) were universally bad. That tipped it over the edge for me with the dodgy CGI helping to reinforce my decision. That said, I probably will watch it when it eventually comes on Max and I don't have to shell out any money to see it beyond the subscription fee I'm paying anyway.
Watched it on Friday night. Enjoyable. Last hour was a lot of fun - but it’s superfluous.
I have not 1 person tell me they had a bad experience at this film, but I did hear that the CGI was terrible. That's not the point. The story was fun imho
It's all of those reasons, plus the diminishing returns DCEU movies have had after Aquaman. This is what happens when you produce flop after flop after flop like Black Adam, Shazam 2, WW84, and even James Gunn's The Suicide Squad all had disappointing box office numbers. The interest has been gone for a long time, and outside of a few weirdos with an impressive astroturfing network, even the Snyder cut couldn't convince enough audiences that this universe is worth watching.
Add to that the immensely negative word of mouth after the first few screenings, and Flash's fate was set in stone.
Unrelated, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on Season 1 of Severance and then coverage of the show moving forward!
People care Keaton was back it was the allegations against Ezra Miller that kept people away and the fact they fired Snyder and Cavil. Fans were loyal to them.
People thinking that the reason is because Cavill is no longer Superman. People, that's not the reason why there's been problems. It's because DC has been a disaster, and at this point, if it's not because of the announcement that a reboot is coming, is because people who have seen the DC Studios announcement has been spreading the news that the reboot is coming, which probably makes The Flash, Aquaman 2 and Blue Beetle unnecessary movies. The general audience has turned their back on DC a long time ago. And yes, the Ezra Miller situation has been a problem for some time, not for everyone, but I understand why many do not want to support Miller. I think DC Studios need to change their plan and go for a full reboot, because there's still remains from the old universe for the new DCU.
Well this ruins my SummerMovieWager list 😢
I'd like to think of it as people would rather not support a movie led by an actor with well documented multiple instances of physically assaulting others.
I really doubt the Ezra Miller of it all plays much of a part in its poor performance. For one, it was a heavily marketed film. I doubt many people who would have been the type of person to go see it didn't know about it. Second, I don't think your average person knows much about Miller. Even as someone who pays attention to entertainment news, my knowledge of all Miller's issues is pretty surface level and I really don't think people are boycotting the movie over it. It's probably much simpler. The Flash is not a character people care about, DCU has had a spotty track record, and it's part of a universe that's ending so people don't feel the need to see it or see it early to avoid spoilers.
And it's nostalgia may work on me, but unlike Spider-Man, I don't think a lot of younger people are going back to watch the Keaton batman -- but I think they are going back to watch the Maguire/Garfield spider-man films (judging mostly by what I see on Reaction UA-cam).
And for some reason WB has really struggled recently with Theatrical. One has to wonder if people just think "It's going to be on Max in a few weeks." Yes, that's true of Guardians 3 too, but again people are generally more excited about those characters and that universe than The Flash and the dying DCU.
I'm a bit surprised by the lower Cinemascore just because I really enjoyed The Flash, and CinemaScores are usually pretty generous, but I think it is a generational. I wanted to see Keaton. My son has no clue who any of the old DC actors are! None. And he liked the movie, but was much cooler on it than I was.
Here’s why the movie bombed… a month before the release date, thousands of people saw the private screening of the movie. And more after that. These people who saw the movie ain’t gonna spend money to see the movie again!! They screwed up doing the private test screenings. The movie was amazing!! Best movie of 2023. Guardians 3 and Spiderverse didn’t get private screenings. That’s why they were successful!
Even though there are sone very good ones like Everything Everywhere & Spider-Verse, have people had enough of the concept of the multiverse?
I think that the movie was over hyped and, I for one, expected more from a movie that was going to end and start a whole universe...
While Flash might be bad at the box office, Pixar's Elemental is even worst, and it's got a A cinemascore! Why aren't we talking about that?
Competition at the box office
In my opinion without Henry Cavill as Superman in this movie as originally cast actually drove many away from going to see it. He is likeable and perceived as being perfectly cast for the part of Superman by 99 percent of the movie going public. A lot of the fan base is upset with how he was treated.
I can't find any reason to go out and see this in theaters and with plenty of other stuff out there this summer I can't see why anyone would prioritize this either. The only non-garbage DC movie I can think of is The Batman, Ezra Miller is a shitty person with zero star power and no one cares about The Flash as a character. At least not this iteration of it.
I thought, bad cgi aside that the movie was great
The why is vèry simple:
Double fan sabotage.
The DCEU gets sabotaged as a defense mechanism by MCU fans ever since it's very first movie.
And through all the behind the scenes bs, Snyderverse fans have taken up arms as well. Leaving this movie with practically no chance at being successful.
Add to it the whole Ezra Miller debacle and people cancelling him.
The movie did not flop because it's a bad movie.
It flopped because the internet wanted it too. And no one these days defies the internet anymore.
Just a bunch of mindcontrolled permanently aggressive mor.ns
The fact alone that every horrible MCU movie lately makes more money than this one only further proves it. Because those movies are genuinely bad. The Flash is most definitely not.
People don't care about quality anymore.
They only care about what the hype says, and then agreeing with it.
Honestly IMO, I would say it's a combination of three factors.
1. Superhero movie fatigue.
2. DCEU doesn't exactly have a quality track record.
3. Ezra Miller's criminal performance. During the marketing period, he didn't show his face at all.
Obviously everyone's reasons for not going to see The Flash are going to be different from one another. But for those of you who didn't see the movie. Would I be right to assume it's one of those three?
P R O M O S M
I think it's two things. Zack Snyder ruined the reputation of DC. And Flash looked like more of that universe. And secondly, look at the competition. If you were a kid right now with all of these choices in the theater, would you choose The Flash? I don't think 99.9% of the audience knows about Ezra Miller's crime spree.
The Flash is not the Snyderverse...this film along with Shazam, Birds of Prey, Wonder Woman 1984, Aquaman, and Blue Beetle are the remnants of the Hamada-verse(a bastardized version of the Snyderverse designed to produce lighter films to lead up to a crisis-like reset)....the more you know.
The movie was awful. 🗑️