The Difference is Incredible! Canon R7 vs R8
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
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switching to your secondary is faster than reloading
Correct!
😂😂 Facts
Watching this makes me feel like I left my sprinklers on.
Haha! That’s funny!
😂
It's good the R7 can shoot 15 fps mechanical, since the sensor has a poor readout speed (31.7 ms) with electronic shutter and produces intense rolling shutter. R8 doubles the readout speed (just electronic) same as the R6 Mk II I own, and both are the fastest non stacked sensors (14.5 ms) in the market.
Yes! Rolling shutter is definitely suppressed, it is still there though. The mechanical is going to be better but not always necessary. Overall, I have been impressed with both cameras.
Thanks for the comment!
R8 still has rolling shutter.
Yes, it does. But it is better than the R7, mechanical still the way to go though.
@@johnmorrisproductions Hey i wanted to get the R8 for both video and photography but people say the lack of a Mechanical shutter means it will struggle with photography in terms of using a flash, so i’m not to sure what they mean, they say it will struggle with flash syncing etc. please help
Sure! I haven’t used the R8 with a flash, so I don’t know if there would be a problem. It does have a First curtain electronic though.
In my usage, the R8 produces cleaner images across the board.
Yep! Full Frame for the win!
I haven’t tried R8, but love my R7. It is a great camera and excellent price tag for the value of the product you get. Amazing for wildlife and pet photography, but also great portrait and any other uses as well. Love it and enjoy using it very much.
Totally agree! It’s a great Camera!
Same here! Las November I got my R7 and I couldn’t love it more. Is great for pictures and great for video :)
Awesome!
Yes! Realy incredible the difference of sensor size
Definitely!
That's what I saw too...
Yes! 1.6 times bigger!
@@johnmorrisproductions It's 2.56 times as big. That's sort of important and not just semantics.
Yes! Sorry about that. 😁
Its not about the size of the sensor, its about what you do with it. At least I tell myself that.
Yep!
Yeah but now compare it to the 40fps option in the r8 which the R7 can’t do. The R8 is a far more capable camera and being full frame its low light capabilities are also a lot better.
Until your battery die after couple shots only
its all personal preference
@@teddymanangka 52 mins of 4K24 continuous video recording is fine. Just have a couple of spare batteries
It's pro APS-C vs entry level full frame
Yes
@@johnmorrisproductionsbut if you’re agreeing to his point, why make the comparison? There’s always been cameras that have faster FPS than others. These two bodies aren’t in competition with one another. 🤷🏾♀️
Because they are from the same manufacturer, and at the same price from the same line. why not compare them? I’ve had tons of people want to know which one they should get, for some people the R7 is better, and others the R8. If you’re doing a lot of sports photography 15fps mechanical is big deal.
@@johnmorrisproductionsGood response👍
The R8 can shoot 40 photos per second in digital mode….this mechanical performance of R7 is ok, but the R8 has all the performance of an R6 Mark 2 except for IBIS and the mechanical shutter. I would prefer the R8 anytime.
Will you still get rolling shutter using the r7’s mechanical shutter??
Nope! 🙂
False. The effect can still be present but tends to be much less perceptible with a mechanical shutter than with an electronic shutter on a camera with a relatively slow sensor readout speed.
Does the R8 have a larger sensor
Yep!
The R7 is for Photographers and the R8 is for Videographers. The R8 has the same sensor and filter as the R6 Mark II. Image quality in the R6 Mark II and the R8 are identical.
Yes! Except for a low light, for that the R8 is better at both.
@@johnmorrisproductions No, same as R6 mk II.
@adosrealdeal7036 he meant vs the R7
What tripod do you use?
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Thats full frame vs cropped frame sensor, real world scenarios. For wedding, events, and selling your captured photos 90% you will need to use Full frame, clients prefered that all the time. Well if your just a hobbyist then thats no issue.
Sure, really it just depends on the situation. At the end of the day whatever takes the best quality image wins.
@@johnmorrisproductions That is true John and it is supposed to be that way. but yet in my experience as photographer and a seller i had issues with Shutterstock company and other platforms for selling your photos when selling raw photos using R7 or non fullframe they reject it and detect as not a full frame sensor. So yeah thats a downside even it if that crisp. These website wants fullframe raw shots. they have tools now to detect. so point case is for business and profit. better use Fullframe sensors
I really don't think for one moment that a client could tell or even care if a shot was taken on a full or crop sensor. As long as they like the images that is all that matters to a client in my experience.
If you use the appropriate lens and are actually a good photographer, absolutely no client would tell you your photos are not good enough if you used a aps-c camera.
The R8 is adequate to impress any beginner and it’s full frame. On a tripod it’s more capable.
Yes, it’s a great option!
would you recomment canon r8 with sigma ef lens ?
As a videographer/photographer and a US Army Infantry Combat Veteran, I can't help but get excited by the M-R7 Saw talking to the R8-50 Cal. 😂#MachineGunner
You can spell really well for a grunt, sir.
@@CryptoJones LOL!!!
The r8 doesn’t have a H+ mode but the r50 does?! 🤔
It does, it can get 40FPS digitally.
So confused. as a landscape shooter (not birds) is the r6ii worth the $1500 more over the r7?
Well, for that the R8 might be the best option. Check out the new review of the R8 I published this morning! ua-cam.com/video/JRsDyQQ6T9M/v-deo.html
No full autos in the building!
I guess so.
* While holding R8 *
"that's not full auto"
* Switches to R7 *
"this is"
Ironic how spray and prey is now an SOP in the industry. 15 FPS is great, sorting through 30 and 40 FPS no thanks.
Wish someone compares the low light abilities of the R8 to that of the R7...
I wonder who could do that? (I will work on that)
@@johnmorrisproductions looking forward for your comparison, subscribed.
Thanks! It should be out sometime next week!
@@johnmorrisproductions Wow! Looks like I'll finally know how big is the difference between Full Frame & APS-C!!!
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Thank you!
Mechanical is needed less and less these days. I have the R8 and am not worried about it at all.
R7 good for wildlife photography????
Absolutely! Check out the full review!
ua-cam.com/video/ahYZXl6M2as/v-deo.html
Try electronic 40 fps...
👀
R8 can do way higher burst rates with electronic shutter
True.
Cropped vs Full frame?
40 fps Electronic shutter for R8?
Yep!
@johnmorrisproductions
Thats not even Apples and Pears.
Thats more like comparing Apples to Cars.
What a nonsense ... 😒
Well, electronic is different than mechanical. I almost never use electronic because it reduces bit depth and rolling shutter.
@@johnmorrisproductionsBit depth? New science out there? Bit = 0|1. There is no depth in a bit ...
Since the R8 hiods the Digic X rolling shutter is a phenamonom which I never noticed when shooting the R8 on a fast pace sport luke Handbal. Which is a faster pace sport than soccer, baseball, football, basketball or whatever sport you throw at it.
And sice even then I do not need the 40 fps I use it at 20 fps shooting jpegs (not much care for detailed aftercare when shooting hundreds of pics) it leaves me with 80 frames in a burst. I never run out of buffer.
Can’t the r8 shoot 40fps with the electronic shutter?
Yep, but there is some rolling shutter, and it’s only 12 bit instead of 14.
Get 40FPS using the R8 with electronic shutter instead
Yep!
Saw on Simon D'entremont's channel@@johnmorrisproductions
I have a rental r7 coming in this week.
Awesome!
I tend to use the R8's full electronic shutter to get 40fps burst
That’s awesome!
Switch it to full electronic and let’s see 🙂
Probably still is going to be less, one is the flagship Apsc sensor versus a basic full frame
@@erosahmed8141 The R8 maxes out at 40fps in full electronic shutter
Still thinking which one to buy
If you’re interested, I have several videos comparing the two cameras. ua-cam.com/video/nqqfygv1a9I/v-deo.htmlsi=E6orl63IpQf7N3Qk
Here is a newer video. ua-cam.com/video/Rv63RH75Q-U/v-deo.htmlsi=JZB8r2Fc07cIfP8M
The Canon EOS R7 aka the Fapping R7
What about electronic shutter speed? Full frame Vs APS-C, better low light performance. More capable HDR. Don't forget the benefits of the R8 over the R7. ;)
Yep, but for fast moving objects mechanical shutter is an advantage.
@@johnmorrisproductions 😂😂. I get it you love the R7 and are very biased.
Well, it depends. For low light and wide angle the R8 is SO MUCH BETTER! They are both good in their own ways.
@@johnmorrisproductions mas se o obturador mecânico (R7) não serve, que adianta...
Is that the only reason people purchase cameras ? Of course not 🤣 ....full frame matters.
Yes, full frame is better. There are a lot of reasons to buy certain cameras over others.
idiot hard to teach.
Depends on what you are doing.
Definitely!
Who cares? R7 is crop and R8 is full frame.
APS-C vs Full Frame, 40fps electronic shutter faster read-out speed on the R8, 4k 60 uncropped, I can go on & on🥱
And thats pretty much all you can do with R7 coz no lenses XD
🤣
That thang taking pictures boii @ther7
Yeah!
I got the R6, R7 and R8 I love all of them
That’s awesome!
I still take the full frame over that r7, my r6ii 40fps is insane 😁
Definitely, full frame is the best! 40 is crazy!
yeah but you don’t get 32 megapixels like the R7 😊
Yes, the R8 is better in low light. For most use-cases the R7 is slightly better. It really depends on the situation though.
@@johnmorrisproductions I currently have only an EOS 250D but have been watching tons of videos on the R7 and hope to get one soon.
Awesome! If you have any questions, let me know!
R8 full frame better read out. It’s a mini r6 II
Yes!
15 per second r7 vs 6 per second r8...
Yes!
Actually the R8 in digital mode can shoot 40 per second…
Both have machanical shutter ?
Yes, but the R8 only has one curtain.
Well...R8 can shoot in 30 fps with electronic shutter, right?
Yes, 40 actually.
@@johnmorrisproductions But 16 bit RAW should be 30 fps?
No, it’s 14 bit with mechanical shutter at six frames a second and 12 Bit with electronic at 40 frames a second.
@@johnmorrisproductions I heard there is a 30 fps option, that is 14 bit RAW as well?
@@johnmorrisproductions I need a full frame camera with high fps, to increase the success rate of capturing the buses.
you realize that in electronic shutter, the R8 shoots 40fps
Yeah, I know. But it’s not the same.
@johnmorrisproductions it performs pretty well for me. I use it for MMA and Basketball events.
That’s awesome!
So R8 is smaller than R7?
Yep!
Doesn't that knacker up the shutter ?
It should be fine
Yeah but then who shoots with shutter that is super loud 😂😅 silent mode 40fps always better baby
Yeah! 🔥🔥🔥
Ahah now you should compare the r7 with the 40 fps of the r8. The r8 is a beast
Definitely! I will do that at some point!
Yes what a difference. One is a full frame camera, the other isn’t.
Yes!
Now let's hear it for 3rd party lens support! *crickets*
Yes, you can use an adapter. But it isn’t perfect.
All my lense works on r system ef
Yes, mine do as well! I day this point I don’t notice a difference between RF and EF
Yeah but look at the sensor size difference , Optimus prime level
Yes! If you want to see the difference in low light performance, check out this video! R8 vs R7: The Ultimate Low Light Showdown
ua-cam.com/video/NkxH-hkWZ7w/v-deo.html
@@johnmorrisproductions thank you i appreciate it
Happy to!
R8 is full sensor camera
Yep!
Canon 7d then my upgrade to r7
Yes, the R7 would be a great upgrade!
I still use old 7d, but r7 has great af i was amazed how good tracks and has few things from r3, which is why I chose to get r7 also because I can use ef s lens
Ahhh... War sounds
So basically they can finally do what Sonys have been. Doing for years?…… 👏…… 👏
Yeah, kind of.
So what? Is fps everything?
No, just in the video.
Im good with my R8 speed 🤷🏾♂️
Sure! It’s a great camera!
My R5 go brbrbrbrbrbrbr
Definitely!
R8 is more video centric than the R7.
Maybe, the R8 definitely overheats a lot more.
Meanwhile, in Sony A1 land *silence at 30fps*
Yep! The R7 can be silent too.
sure, for $5k more, right?
Yes, the A1 is expensive. But it’s good, so….
@@ronaldchongnah you just put it in silent
Me over here with the R10…
That’s still a great camera!
@@johnmorrisproductions I love my Camera! It hit that nice sweet spot of Price, and Features for what I needed it for.
Awesome!
What if I don’t want to play this game?
I guess you don’t have to.
Yah canon r7 camera is nic
Yes!
I know what this means 💯
👍
R8 have only one card slot vs R7 has with dual card slots. need space for those clicks
Definitely!
That's is NOT the point of two card slots.
I know, it’s a joke. 😁
I think the dual card slot are meant as using a backup in case one card fails. or is their any other use as well ??
Absolutely! Either you can use one for back up or, you can use one for photos and one for video, or you can use one after the other. It’s pretty versatile!
R7 is far better for the price and has IBIS which r8 doesn’t. The full frame isn’t worth it on the r8. Rather go higher if you’re going to spend that money
IBIS is way overrated, the R8 paired with a lens with staib is actually better for not having IBIS, no wobbles in the corners is better IMO. The R8 digital staib is better than most of the Sony's with IBIS.
Yeah, the faster noise is going to make you a better photographer. There is always something faster. Ignore this crap.
It’s just a comparison.
All good but... It's crop again!
Yes, 1.6x
Crop is closer to Super 35 film tho
Yes, it’s not terrible.
Canon 🤢🤮
Why?
Very Rare people using this kind of fastest Shutters. It’s NOT necessary more frames per second. Nonsense
Not necessarily, I use extremely fast frame rates for sports all the time. 🙂