I don’t know if anyone else has commented on this but did any other drummers notice that Zach is playing a VERY low entry kit here? The hardware and cymbals in particular are pretty much Walmart First Act gear. You can tell by the wingnuts and the look of the brandless crash cymbal. Also the hihat clutch doesn’t even have the wing nut lol. But at least he still has his Iron Cobra. I say all this to say this man truly made this little beginner kit sound incredible lol.
Eric Sandoval Every show he does something breaks, whether it’s just a stick or he decides to tear up the whole kit and throw it around during concert.
i don't think i've ever seen zach play on a "normal" kit. there's always some trash cymbal or a drum that looks like it was $50 at the pawn shop. his toms are usually tuned so low that the quality of the drum wouldn't matter much anyway
Well he tends to purposely destroy his kit during his shows especially his DG shows. But also I feel like that’s the sound he’s going for ya know? Stuff like he’s play here is very garage band/jamming band stuff so why would he use a custom SJC for example? That’s why I like him, he showed me especially when I was starting out that I don’t need the best top of the line gear to sound great and be amazing.
how can people call this nonsense? this is a relativley easy listen (update after 5 years: ok maybe i was being a little pretentious but im still not wrong guys listen to the Zach Hills other stuff and see what i mean)
*yelling over the sound of machine guns and 5000 cymbals falling down the stairs at jet engine levels of intense* THIS IS A RELATIVELY EASY LISTEN I DONT GET HOW PEOPLE WOULD BE TURNED OFF BY THIS
i love zach hill because he convinced me that i could be (in a future) an amazing drummer even with a -100$ drumset. fuck all those drummers that spend thousands of dollars in ocdp, sjc, truth, dw drums and whatever!!
Im getting some major cognitive dissonance here. The noise is somewhat comforting and beautiful but zach hill's insane drumming is just pure insanity. Really cool stuff
@@SaumBodhi uh theres plenty of low end in zachs foot lol. bass drum is going ham the whole time. the recording sounds like that because A) its camera audio and B) its noise rock improv lol. Lightning bolt on mega crack is a pretty good descriptor of this, if lightning bolt was just a guitar amp and a low end drumset. (and a drummer and a guitarist)
Both artists have great and versatile careers so that is not "all they do." As far as this 8 minutes of improv goes, its pretty much Zach playing hard and fast and doing whatever he wants (taking short breaks to adjust his gear) and Carson doing a stunning job at putting improvised melody on this chaotic rhythm. At times it'll a minute or 2, but then they both lock into a great musical idea.
Maybe if you listened closely you could hear the differentials of his phrasing, though they go by quick so you kinda have to take the shit out of your ears.
Improv is alot about what you feel and not what you think, so it's really about the diminishing of conceptual-ism, although yes this isn't a good demonstration of skilled drumming, but that's not the point. Music man, different eyes see different things
Pretty noisy but still cool IMO, I prefer when Reinhart or Crow play with Hill cause they seem like reliable guardrails and don't resort to just playing a bunch of notes to try and keep up with Zach. They let Zach come to them :°) just my opinion though
this is a whole different beast compared to a lot of other zach stuff. Like the ladies, that album was actually started as rob crow recording over leftover drum tracks from the masculine drugs. When zach is just blasting this fast there is only so much a man can do. He makes noise that sounds melodic and compliments zach hills insane racket well! its a catastrophe but in an incredible way,
@@outsanity9528 just seeing this now haha, but the album Blonde by Frank Ocean, he had Zach play over a couple tracks but he never used them, wonder what it sounded like haha
Interesting in the sense that it’s a constant 9 minute onslaught of noise, possibly representative of the constant onslaught of exercise a Jamaican workout is, and how chaotic it feels. The different phrases represent the changes to new routines and such. Very interesting. or perhaps, it’s just noise.
Who ever is trying to play the guitar really needs to work on some melody maybe learn a chord or two. Anybody can do what he's doing on the Guitar. Crank up the distortion and bend and smash the fuck out of the strings. Ooh wow noise core.
@@spitgorge2021 @doortonowhere Nuance from Zacks drumming yes, from the dude hitting random sour notes with lots of feedback and distortion.... Hard No. That doesn't mean your not alowed to enjoy it nor do I think less of you. But if you try and defend it to me Im just going to shit all over you.
i understand improvisational music i am in a band that plays 70 percent improv music. i dont think zach is a bad drummer but he is the most repetative drummer i have ever heard. having said that he probibly has the best accent control of anyone i have ever heard.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "differentials of his phrasing", that's not really a term you ever come across when actually working in the industry. I suppose John was right with his original comment.
He can actually. Listen to his stuff with Wavves. He obviously enjoys playing like this though and that's why I'm hear: to listen to his "over drumming."
trying way too hard to be artsy in this video. show them playing and wide angles, then maybe cut to some of those close shots (particularly of their appendages, pedals, etc), but jesus h christ that was hard to watch
Zach is actually a terrible drummer. His playing does not serve or complement the music it is usually him just going " look at me" not only that but he plays the same shit in every song
Haters will see someone walk on water and say it's cause he can't swim.
***** They will see him walk on water because Zach Hill is Jesus
jesus never realed
@@Ryan-xq3kl hating on jesus because he was a gay black Kinnie undertale fan I see
Mmm, fruit gummy
I really like the camerman's work here. It's like I'm a fly in the room.
did you notice Carson's wearing Vans too?
@@Infinitychillcheers God damn it, Zach, ANOTHER Vans commercial?!
I don’t know if anyone else has commented on this but did any other drummers notice that Zach is playing a VERY low entry kit here? The hardware and cymbals in particular are pretty much Walmart First Act gear. You can tell by the wingnuts and the look of the brandless crash cymbal.
Also the hihat clutch doesn’t even have the wing nut lol. But at least he still has his Iron Cobra.
I say all this to say this man truly made this little beginner kit sound incredible lol.
Eric Sandoval Every show he does something breaks, whether it’s just a stick or he decides to tear up the whole kit and throw it around during concert.
i don't think i've ever seen zach play on a "normal" kit. there's always some trash cymbal or a drum that looks like it was $50 at the pawn shop. his toms are usually tuned so low that the quality of the drum wouldn't matter much anyway
Well he tends to purposely destroy his kit during his shows especially his DG shows. But also I feel like that’s the sound he’s going for ya know? Stuff like he’s play here is very garage band/jamming band stuff so why would he use a custom SJC for example? That’s why I like him, he showed me especially when I was starting out that I don’t need the best top of the line gear to sound great and be amazing.
@slidnut4525 i mean the way he plays is really aggressive. He probably goes through multiple snareheads frequently
That makes me feel better about only having a sun damaged set of CBs with missing parts
how can people call this nonsense? this is a relativley easy listen
(update after 5 years: ok maybe i was being a little pretentious but im still not wrong guys listen to the Zach Hills other stuff and see what i mean)
uuhhh
*yelling over the sound of machine guns and 5000 cymbals falling down the stairs at jet engine levels of intense*
THIS IS A RELATIVELY EASY LISTEN I DONT GET HOW PEOPLE WOULD BE TURNED OFF BY THIS
That’s the good shit
Right? I think I heard my grandparents dancing to this a while back.
My guy, I love stuff like this but this is no easy listen
i love zach hill because he convinced me that i could be (in a future) an amazing drummer even with a -100$ drumset. fuck all those drummers that spend thousands of dollars in ocdp, sjc, truth, dw drums and whatever!!
mariorossipuzza DUDE I SEE YOU EVERYWHERE IM SUBBED TO YOU
this
mariorossipuzza the gear he’s using ain’t cheap doe but i agree with you, if it feels good nothing else matters
@debick that's not a keplinger snare
@@poopyjoe7883 he very frequently uses trashed cymbals and cheap drums
really wish the sweaty knee shot was longer
Previous talk before improv...normal people: "ok, lets do G D E..",... Zach and Carson "ok, lets do 350 bpm"
zach and carson "okay, lets just fucking tear shit up"
Im getting some major cognitive dissonance here. The noise is somewhat comforting and beautiful but zach hill's insane drumming is just pure insanity. Really cool stuff
SO THOSE
TALES FROM THE CRYPT
4:12 TOP SECRET spectacular closeup of zach hill's knee
fuck my dude, thanks
saved
Its like lightning bolt on mega crack
and lightning bolt was already on mega crack
@@spitgorge2021 ultra crack
Zero low end all ear rip lol
@@SaumBodhi uh theres plenty of low end in zachs foot lol. bass drum is going ham the whole time. the recording sounds like that because A) its camera audio and B) its noise rock improv lol. Lightning bolt on mega crack is a pretty good descriptor of this, if lightning bolt was just a guitar amp and a low end drumset. (and a drummer and a guitarist)
Bleep blurp
If God exists... Zach Hill's right foot is a gift from It.
id say that god is in this video playing the drums man
Yeah if gosh exists he probably said hi to me
Zach Hill is a fucking machine gun
maybe when you get this good you become musically telepathic. The way those guys lock into those crazy grooves is insane.
all these low fi hella and zach hill clipsare actually a battle against music on internet, you need to come to the gig and hear it live
I agree but also what gigs
Zoom in all you like; you'll never be able to fathom how he does it.
absolute drumming unit
Wow this is such an intense jam and the camera work just fucks that vibe so hard
Would've been nice to see what was actually goin on.....
Best promo to Tama Iron Cobra pedal and Converse shoes)))))
Both artists have great and versatile careers so that is not "all they do." As far as this 8 minutes of improv goes, its pretty much Zach playing hard and fast and doing whatever he wants (taking short breaks to adjust his gear) and Carson doing a stunning job at putting improvised melody on this chaotic rhythm. At times it'll a minute or 2, but then they both lock into a great musical idea.
it should be possible to do that with your foot. jesus
hes just stamping his heel down then stepping forward.
2:45 holy shit! That is like the sound of aliens righteously destroying Earth
Damn son, seeing him drum put a smile on my face
This will get you fit, see immediate results or your money back guaranteed.
I really don't like "noise" music but this was extremely satisfiying to watch and hear
I love this.
Gotta give credit to the camera work, really seals the deal on this being one of my favourite youtube videos
I can smell his B.O. from here!
im starving
My d o m e is _scorched_
pure bliss
The end is so cute haha
zach is a sweet human being
Wow! Zach Hill never disappoints.
This is rad. Was this released?
Just noticed Zach has a Spazz shirt on! Nice!
HOW DOES A PERSON KICK DRUM THAT FUCKIN FAST????????
So simple in its complexity.
I wonder where that cymbal at the end is now...
Would love to see a collab between Zach Hill and John Zorn. Maybe throw a little Mike Patton in there
zorn on sax and hill on drums would be a fucking amazing duo
he did improv with patton live atleast once
eating milk duds to this
worst thing to see live when you have a headache
BEST you mean
amplifies the experience
the cameraman is so new at this
those calves tho!
Maybe if you listened closely you could hear the differentials of his phrasing, though they go by quick so you kinda have to take the shit out of your ears.
8:54
that laugh warms my heart man
Were they pouring that gravel/cement into Zach's bass drum?
Just putting something heavy in front of it to keep it from sliding forward. Cinder blocks work too.
When zachs elbow entered the shot at 1:35 i genuinely feared for my safety
Just thrashed everything in the room after i put this on.
zach hills drumming fills the void inside me
God, what awful racket. I love it.
Is that an Alberto Giacometti drawing at the beginning?
Ego death.
Is "Jamaican Fitness" the name of the track?
Yah, mon.
watch at half speed and it’s literally jazz
I tried it and i sounded nothing like jazz. So, fuck you.
@@Haassan1 you dont know what jazz sounds like
SIck Spazz shirt \m/
this from Super Sketch I believe... put on by Super Color Super. Look it up.
5:50 and such visually relatable
He's totally wearing white pants after labor day! so cool seeing them feeding off each others energy
Improv is alot about what you feel and not what you think, so it's really about the diminishing of conceptual-ism, although yes this isn't a good demonstration of skilled drumming, but that's not the point. Music man, different eyes see different things
this is very much a demonstration of good drumming, and feeling is still conceptualising so idk what youre on
this is an example of the best drummer in the entire world. the speed intensity and accuracy is insane, it sounds incredible
I can respect that
Pretty noisy but still cool IMO, I prefer when Reinhart or Crow play with Hill cause they seem like reliable guardrails and don't resort to just playing a bunch of notes to try and keep up with Zach. They let Zach come to them :°) just my opinion though
this is a whole different beast compared to a lot of other zach stuff. Like the ladies, that album was actually started as rob crow recording over leftover drum tracks from the masculine drugs. When zach is just blasting this fast there is only so much a man can do. He makes noise that sounds melodic and compliments zach hills insane racket well! its a catastrophe but in an incredible way,
Maybe just the jealous drummers cus they can't rock the shit out of there kits like Zach Hill?
What model of cobra is that? Thanks!
Definitely second gen of the Iron Cobra, considering that was the only one available at that time.
p-90x of drumming
@Nateytracks i severely agree.
I like to imagine Zach doing this on the Blonde sessions
What are the blonde sessions?
@@outsanity9528frank ocean
@@outsanity9528 just seeing this now haha, but the album Blonde by Frank Ocean, he had Zach play over a couple tracks but he never used them, wonder what it sounded like haha
If it aint making my ears bleed, then it aint a good Zach Hill song. Thankfully, all of them do that
Hey, I have that shirt!
Muy complejo.
haters gonna hate
it's about the notes he's not playing
what notes
Repetitive? Really? What is the name and link to your band for a comparison, sir? With all due respect, of course.
If you are a super saiyen, this is the most melodic thing you have ever heard...stay thirsty my friendz
It's unfortunate that Mr. Hill has no outlet for his aggression.
"wag the dog" by david mamet
Interesting in the sense that it’s a constant 9 minute onslaught of noise, possibly representative of the constant onslaught of exercise a Jamaican workout is, and how chaotic it feels. The different phrases represent the changes to new routines and such. Very interesting.
or perhaps, it’s just noise.
that foot
is this normal?!
not at all, and its fuckin perfect
biblical violence.
id rather play the way i play than zach
i sure as shit wouldnt! most insane stamina and physical playing ever. not to mention the best right foot in the world.
I'm sorry but was that a fucking bag of concrete he put in his kick
To keep the bass drum from sliding
jamaican me fitness
4:33 Foot...
drummers make terrible fathers
Really? I'm a drummer & my daughter and I have a wonderful relationship. What's with the 9 likes?
@@marcrogers1051 he's implying that they beat their kids like the drums
This doesnt sound bad at all
You made music..... OR THEY MADE A EXPERIENCE.
@3nityBlood
On meth it is...
Next generation bating in the background. "Your time will come."
Toothpaste cymbal
Toothpaste cymbal
whether or not his music is repetitive does not change whether or not zach hill is repetitive
What the fuck am I listening to?
Who ever is trying to play the guitar really needs to work on some melody maybe learn a chord or two. Anybody can do what he's doing on the Guitar. Crank up the distortion and bend and smash the fuck out of the strings. Ooh wow noise core.
looks like you cant see nuance at all
@@spitgorge2021 @doortonowhere Nuance from Zacks drumming yes, from the dude hitting random sour notes with lots of feedback and distortion.... Hard No.
That doesn't mean your not alowed to enjoy it nor do I think less of you. But if you try and defend it to me Im just going to shit all over you.
@@joshualoveless20 the song face tat is pretty melodic and it's by this duo
the camera man was actualy mc ride
i understand improvisational music i am in a band that plays 70 percent improv music. i dont think zach is a bad drummer but he is the most repetative drummer i have ever heard. having said that he probibly has the best accent control of anyone i have ever heard.
listen to Hella and then.. ;)
eniotna yeah lol
this doesnt rly show the nuance of his drumming at all, maybe watch a couple more videos of his death grips live work
This is the same song that I wrote when I was 4 or 5.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "differentials of his phrasing", that's not really a term you ever come across when actually working in the industry. I suppose John was right with his original comment.
can someone explain the appeal of this to me?
flippytheleper you're not a drummer, nor an artist
It is just two guys playing as fast as they can. I think Zach couldn`t play this in lower tempo.
He can actually. Listen to his stuff with Wavves. He obviously enjoys playing like this though and that's why I'm hear: to listen to his "over drumming."
he's zach hill of course he fucking can lmao, you just dont notice clean his chops are
trying way too hard to be artsy in this video. show them playing and wide angles, then maybe cut to some of those close shots (particularly of their appendages, pedals, etc), but jesus h christ that was hard to watch
Zach is actually a terrible drummer. His playing does not serve or complement the music it is usually him just going " look at me" not only that but he plays the same shit in every song
lmao how tho
He sounds like that live indeed, but just listen to his beat work on almost any Hella or Death Grips song, he knows what he's doing
his playing is the music
Zach "lame guy" hill
Bro he knows how to right for guitar and bass he’s talented he knows what he’s doing listen to his projects
im starving
Again?