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  • @mido3071
    @mido3071 11 місяців тому +2969

    Much Love Petu ❤❤❤
    I'm honored to be mentioned in your video!

    • @Kikis118
      @Kikis118 11 місяців тому +105

      you're a legend

    • @Ankan._.
      @Ankan._. 11 місяців тому +64

      Did you write that thesis? Its incredible xD

    • @Blameanyonebutme
      @Blameanyonebutme 11 місяців тому +37

      ahmed mohsen to to to to to to to ahmed ya mohsen to to to to

    • @abdelrahmanmohamed6639
      @abdelrahmanmohamed6639 11 місяців тому +18

      عالمي يا حج

    • @himatite1151
      @himatite1151 11 місяців тому +13

      شغال عالي يا باشا❤

  • @chrispascual8118
    @chrispascual8118 11 місяців тому +2773

    Man maybe in the future we need to whip out a thesis to justify our build when being hard pinged by a team mate

    • @Esodum
      @Esodum 11 місяців тому +66

      I'm in my psychology masters, the thesis is how i can easily induce what i call "pinglish behaviour" on my teamates by deviating just one item from the standard buildpath. It goes from things that actually work but are very specific, like buying dark seal on first back as jax in lanes you know you'll snowball, to things that border trolling because they only work if you REEEALLY know what you're doing (ad Sylas xD)
      Edit: jk that's not my thesis, but it happens without a fault every time. The behavioural patterns of a league player are very readable.

    • @dimo6994
      @dimo6994 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Esodumtriforce kaisa goes crazy

    • @DamianSzajnowski
      @DamianSzajnowski 11 місяців тому

      ​@@dimo6994shyv, kraken, guinsoo, nashor's too broken imo but you do you

    • @berdiebert1
      @berdiebert1 11 місяців тому

      I wish that was the case, because I see A LOT of builds that could not be justified in anyway on the rift..
      Even if their whole team tried to accomodate to their build and champion.
      It's actually crazy sometimes.

    • @DamianSzajnowski
      @DamianSzajnowski 11 місяців тому +4

      @@berdiebert1 People having fun in the video game off-meta? We can't have that!

  • @i-love-winter
    @i-love-winter 11 місяців тому +1180

    He really did it, he really did the _calculashens_

    • @MrDisendat
      @MrDisendat 11 місяців тому +16

      take my angry upvote

    • @i-love-winter
      @i-love-winter 11 місяців тому +1

      @@MrDisendat obligatory shen pun, it had to be done.

    • @blightbray127
      @blightbray127 11 місяців тому +2

      The pun gods prophet

    • @seth12786
      @seth12786 11 місяців тому +1

      God damn it.

    • @Biizado
      @Biizado 11 місяців тому +4

      That’s because he’s a _matematishen_

  • @breado_
    @breado_ 11 місяців тому +1851

    You know it'll work if someone sends you whole thesis on a particular build

    • @Esodum
      @Esodum 11 місяців тому +84

      Peer-reviewed by the legend himself, too

    • @walideslouliwalid6753
      @walideslouliwalid6753 11 місяців тому +5

      They lost it didn't work

    • @pardus3402
      @pardus3402 11 місяців тому +32

      it works in ideal world but Mohamed didn't include real world situations like ranged champs, human factor and etc

    • @FSniffer
      @FSniffer 11 місяців тому +3

      @@walideslouliwalid6753 he lost in 14:30

    • @danielyucra8455
      @danielyucra8455 9 місяців тому

      @@pardus3402 so it is incomplete and not pretty much useful :/

  • @MrDuoSchock
    @MrDuoSchock 11 місяців тому +153

    Daisy/Magerite proccs "press the attack", thats why ivern went it. Hes an special technologgy enjoyer aswell

  • @loltom981
    @loltom981 11 місяців тому +421

    i LOVE these mathematical analyses on this channel. some of my FAVOURITE CONTENT. its what got me into this channel

    • @chefjimmybob
      @chefjimmybob 11 місяців тому

      Same!! what are some other math analyses he as talked about?

    • @loltom981
      @loltom981 11 місяців тому

      @@chefjimmybob not really sure, i would have to take a look around. but i know a vid "How Riot's "Nerfs" Gave Rise to a New Shen Build" which has the same vibes, not exactly mathematical analyses

    • @loltom981
      @loltom981 11 місяців тому

      @@chefjimmybob "Mathematically Optimal Lethal Tempo Shen"

  • @ElegantSerr
    @ElegantSerr 11 місяців тому +277

    Will be running this mathematical Shen build, Gold here I come!

    • @andreistan2830
      @andreistan2830 11 місяців тому +3

      If you cant reach gold with a normal build, you won't with this meme build

    • @ElegantSerr
      @ElegantSerr 11 місяців тому +27

      The maths are there, we have the technology. Going up to gold is possible.

    • @ElegantSerr
      @ElegantSerr 11 місяців тому +14

      The only way is up!

    • @thepiperpie
      @thepiperpie 11 місяців тому +8

      the easiest way to get to gold is to place in plat

    • @CUSTOM_V9
      @CUSTOM_V9 10 місяців тому

      @@ElegantSerr how did it went?

  • @GGCannon
    @GGCannon 11 місяців тому +249

    You should try another video with this build. The enemy team wasn't really a good match up to display it and your team didn't really provide any really good ult angles for you to do what Shen does best.
    Considering the amount of work that went into making that thesis, it would be really good to see a game where it actually pops off.

    • @Nazuiko
      @Nazuiko 11 місяців тому +2

      This, yeah. Rell was hardcore griefing the game, her plays were abysmal and Kaisa was basically your team's entire clutch. Rell didnt seem to realize that a) She was her team's only frontline because Shen wasnt b) She wasnt good at front lining.
      The build is hard, and im not sure you want to go full tank after NQB but maybe you do, maybe you build more ADC/bruiser.

  • @JasemQ8
    @JasemQ8 11 місяців тому +143

    The forbidden xpetu quadra consecutive uploads.

  • @milkteaoftheyear
    @milkteaoftheyear 11 місяців тому +84

    the audacity for rell to ping anything after that baron play is insane

    • @emmigosa
      @emmigosa 9 місяців тому +2

      That Rell was such dog dude, she had me vomiting on my keyboard, so many terrible misplays -- and blaming other people kekw.

  • @-KpAbilio-
    @-KpAbilio- 11 місяців тому +60

    My bro just wrote a thesis, probably on Latex, to validade lethal navori shen. Gotta respect this madman!

    • @navjotsingh2251
      @navjotsingh2251 10 місяців тому +1

      This is border line r/Ryze mains behavior, or maybe even more chaotic.

    • @lokir.4974
      @lokir.4974 9 місяців тому

      @@navjotsingh2251 river shen

    • @moonknight5743
      @moonknight5743 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@navjotsingh2251nahh none can beat those guys

  • @Cielu1
    @Cielu1 11 місяців тому +5

    Love how you explain everything you do, like hitting the waves when he is hitting and etc. Great content 10/10

  • @Miguel_Noether
    @Miguel_Noether 9 місяців тому +8

    as a PhD student I can confirm that Einstein did mention in the special theory of relativity the navori quick blades

  • @darkmario131
    @darkmario131 11 місяців тому +27

    Rell jumps in 1v5, dies like a sack of potatoes, decides to ping the Kaisa 😂

    • @rakso3820
      @rakso3820 11 місяців тому +5

      This! Typical LoL player

    • @Brurgh
      @Brurgh 11 місяців тому +4

      this Rell was gigabad, there was no reason to go in after securing baron on 5 people. shouldve just let her die and back out. Enemies all had reset such a moronic play and then to follow to save her was also pretty bad.

    • @OneDragonArmy
      @OneDragonArmy 8 місяців тому

      The rework made all the normies play her and do terrible jobs

  • @zoltai7549
    @zoltai7549 11 місяців тому +8

    Petu blessing us once again... Thankyou Petu. Love from Australia

  • @FenrIIrz
    @FenrIIrz 11 місяців тому +46

    This man paper on one item and rune page on league is better than my last year thesis

    • @cskillen1998
      @cskillen1998 11 місяців тому +3

      Shouldnt be allowed to pass then, the level is far from academic

    • @InternetAlias
      @InternetAlias 11 місяців тому +1

      @@cskillen1998 Could you elaborate why? (Not considering the typos)
      Im studying history and english, so I do not really know what you have to look for in a mathematical paper.

    • @pokemonrampagemake
      @pokemonrampagemake 11 місяців тому +12

      @@cskillen1998 The level is not bad at all, with some corrections this is enough for a bachelor level thesis in the best universities in the world
      The conclusion section is the only part that is too comedic to be used in an academic context

    • @cskillen1998
      @cskillen1998 11 місяців тому +3

      @@pokemonrampagemake The report should be re-written completetly; he is switching tenses when typing and he is constantly using the word "we" which is incorrect. You should write the report as if it already happend, which he didn't. He is also missing a bunch of references. The level of the language is extremely low, "Here we noticed that the variation in the curves across all values of h0 is pretty small. So we fix the value for h0 at 50 [..]." is not academic at all. How do you define "pretty small"? Something like this is more academic: "It was noticed that the variation in the curves across all value of h0 is low, hence the value of h0 was set to a fixed value of 50 as [...]"

    • @cskillen1998
      @cskillen1998 11 місяців тому +2

      @@InternetAlias It's more or less that it is not academic, and he is switching between different tenses; when this work is published it has already been done, hence you type what you HAVE done, and not what you WILL/ARE doing. For example "We start by plotting the haste [...]", should be "The haste was plotted by [...]". He is also missing a bunch of references, for examples all the formulas; if no references are presented you are implying that you came up with the information.

  • @ChillTrav
    @ChillTrav 11 місяців тому

    So glad you're making content again!

  • @MyNextTrickLoL
    @MyNextTrickLoL 11 місяців тому +1

    I very much appreciate others in the community doing and reading research.

  • @debdwaipayankarmakar9560
    @debdwaipayankarmakar9560 11 місяців тому +9

    what???? I honestly expected something streamlined, but he legit wrote an entire mathematical thesis, no joke some of our mathematics major books are written in a very similar fashion.

  • @nicholascher960
    @nicholascher960 11 місяців тому +2

    Lethal tempo on shen has always been good. I like the idea of AH on shen, 2 tank items with this navori build would suffice i think. I might try this build out myself

  • @zmm978
    @zmm978 11 місяців тому +8

    First there was baus inting thesis, now came the Petu viewer's new tech thesis, I love this.

    • @sync5043
      @sync5043 11 місяців тому

      cant wait for baus irelia ap thesis

  • @kaymx7156
    @kaymx7156 11 місяців тому +24

    these shen techs have gone too far

  • @Goldfisher
    @Goldfisher 11 місяців тому +21

    To be fair, Olaf seems like the worst matchup to play Navorii Shen into. It seems like it would work best in a game where it allows you to win sidelane 1v1 as Shen, but yeah idk if that is actually worth it in exchange for giving up tankiness.

  • @nischalthapa2460
    @nischalthapa2460 11 місяців тому +4

    Can we all please take a moment and appreciate the work put in the Report by Mr. Mohamed Mohsen

  • @invertfriend
    @invertfriend 11 місяців тому +2

    I feel like I remember another paper about a Shen build from many years ago? Also, I like the River Shen counter for subs, it was a fun build, good old times.

  • @erickfernando18
    @erickfernando18 11 місяців тому

    these whole game comentary are very good, like having the whole insight into play

  • @broisbrogosani
    @broisbrogosani 11 місяців тому

    I've had decent success with navori shen in the jungle, you should try it! Navori and titanic hydra and then build whatever you need after that.

  • @knampf9779
    @knampf9779 10 місяців тому +1

    "Suppose a league player starts and attack at t = 0" is my favourite.

  • @CrickeyNyan
    @CrickeyNyan 10 місяців тому

    This is amazing!

  • @user-vo5ux4fi6f
    @user-vo5ux4fi6f 11 місяців тому +1

    I've tried Shen adc botlane with lethal tempo, with a pyke or panth support and botrk first on shen it actually works pretty well. ofc it was only plat elo so it probably wouldn't work in masters

  • @Jinetee
    @Jinetee 11 місяців тому +4

    That thesis looks far more interesting than the one I'm working on

  • @TheJake452
    @TheJake452 11 місяців тому

    Keep going!

  • @YesThisIsCrass
    @YesThisIsCrass 11 місяців тому

    Of course! By using the cooldown from Navori Quickblades on long cooldown moves like Shen's W, we can move through time!!!!!!!

  • @animewarrior3
    @animewarrior3 9 місяців тому +1

    I think navori as a 2nd or 3rd item would work. Get tanky, do shen things, then spike on 3rd item navori

  • @Illuminanted
    @Illuminanted 11 місяців тому +1

    The conclusion was beautiful.

  • @bloomingloomy
    @bloomingloomy 11 місяців тому +2

    i love these mathematical league videos since league is a game of stats i like how math explains everything better

  • @alexandrepaulo266
    @alexandrepaulo266 11 місяців тому +15

    that Leblanc kill was awesome!

  • @0BLACKESTFUN0
    @0BLACKESTFUN0 8 місяців тому

    the ivern got also send a paper by oppenheimer , explaining him how his onhit passive outscales every lvl 1 fight xD

  • @veritaseverett
    @veritaseverett 11 місяців тому +1

    Amazing. Even wrote it in LaTeX. Like a true mathematician.

  • @sagittariusbstar1805
    @sagittariusbstar1805 11 місяців тому +1

    Waaaait. Is that the shen player I got last week? I was impressed his build worked while my premades flamed him. He actually played decently and didnt int more than normal shens lmao

  • @vuviet8993
    @vuviet8993 11 місяців тому +2

    you are actually the reason why shen became my favorite champion all the time hehe

  • @Negir
    @Negir 11 місяців тому +1

    Unironically, this is why I love your content. Haha.

  • @andreamazzeo4306
    @andreamazzeo4306 11 місяців тому

    The conclusion of the paper was so beautiful.

  • @briancruz8573
    @briancruz8573 11 місяців тому

    Love you Petu ❤

  • @zebruh7490
    @zebruh7490 11 місяців тому +13

    Thank you brethren! You have truly outdone yourself, and as a fellow supporter of this build, I'm beyond happy to finally get to see Petu put this hypothesis into practice.
    Edit: Thank you Petu for trying this build. I totally see what you mean about the lack of fair fights in modern League of Legends. You can put this build to rest, I've had my fill.

  • @rakso3820
    @rakso3820 11 місяців тому +1

    This Rell really had only one functioning brain cell and decided to use it to flame

  • @uhnborhn5032
    @uhnborhn5032 9 місяців тому

    2:39 having an engineering background, that made me smile

  • @mohammadsaddam4560
    @mohammadsaddam4560 11 місяців тому +1

    That leblanc kill is why shen is called the eye of twilight lmao

  • @Fukers
    @Fukers 11 місяців тому +1

    To think i actually commented in the previous video about Navori on Shen. Genius think alike

  • @Skurler
    @Skurler 11 місяців тому +11

    My first game of shen mid after you started recommending it went about exactly the same as 26:55 😂

  • @willnash7907
    @willnash7907 11 місяців тому

    19:02 THE FINISH MADMAN FINISHES HER MADMANLY.

  • @abonynge
    @abonynge 11 місяців тому

    I sat through that entire presentation not realizing this was going to be Shen gameplay. I was expecting a discussion about ADCs.

  • @ItsFengo
    @ItsFengo 11 місяців тому +2

    Hey Petu, what do you think is the strongest item and rune build currently ?

  • @JEPs.
    @JEPs. 11 місяців тому

    Now THIS is a forbidden technology.

  • @weixia5577
    @weixia5577 9 місяців тому

    that is some unbelievable dedication knowing that it might get phased out the moment a rioter decides to fart on a patch

  • @trigoviii1518
    @trigoviii1518 11 місяців тому

    Dude w/ Lethal Tempo + Navori, you should match it with Titanic

  • @rokosestak3618
    @rokosestak3618 9 місяців тому

    now imagine taric with his passive with this. i tried it top lane and it actualy works. aerly game after stun, you deal insane damage with autos becouse of lethat tempo. in late game, if you build enough ability haste, you can actualy permastun someone.

  • @cypobos
    @cypobos 11 місяців тому

    navori only increase damage that are either flaged as proc damage or spell damage, and have a champion ability as source.

    • @umcaraqualquer3640
      @umcaraqualquer3640 11 місяців тому +2

      Turns out that Shen's Q is both an ability and spell damage

  • @cbg4567
    @cbg4567 11 місяців тому

    LOL thebausffs "arrghghhh, BIG" @ 19:24

  • @AtomosNucleous
    @AtomosNucleous 11 місяців тому

    I insta liked the video as I was waiting for the ads at the beginning

  • @ricardosebastian9085
    @ricardosebastian9085 11 місяців тому +1

    Dear xPetu, I am mathematician and lol player, where can I read this thesis?, thank you so much

  • @alexeizaraiov
    @alexeizaraiov 11 місяців тому

    That LeBlanc really wanted revenge for that base kill

  • @OdinCasts
    @OdinCasts 11 місяців тому

    That leblanc kill had me dying man holy

  • @manugala5198
    @manugala5198 11 місяців тому

    That PTA Ivern is a thing Petu. Just saw him on a GM top Ivern Korea. Try him! ❤

  • @Viktor_Von_Doom
    @Viktor_Von_Doom 11 місяців тому

    Petu so gigabased he doesn't let Rell's obvious brain damage bother him.

  • @cozybones4037
    @cozybones4037 11 місяців тому

    I'm usually a nonchalant person but I audibly gasped when he caught Leblanc recalling in her base.
    "We just keep going" -xPetu 2023

  • @ThorVar32
    @ThorVar32 11 місяців тому

    Bruh I just found your channel a few days ago, and fuck I almost die laughing at that "... Nabori Quickblades is the special theory of relativity."

  • @veralight2266
    @veralight2266 11 місяців тому

    bro is 4 parralel universes ahead of the "auto-ban" system

  • @schemeprogramming
    @schemeprogramming 11 місяців тому

    JUST KEEP GOING

  • @inbeing3464
    @inbeing3464 11 місяців тому +10

    can you make a Shen mid specific guide? I want to get into Shen midland but I have no idea how to play it.

    • @gwenstacyismid
      @gwenstacyismid 11 місяців тому +1

      If you can't figure out how to play it, maybe you shouldn't?

    • @nikitaostroukhov6727
      @nikitaostroukhov6727 11 місяців тому +12

      ​@@gwenstacyismid that's why he is asking for a guide, lol

    • @Kakapo_Kid
      @Kakapo_Kid 11 місяців тому

      ​@@gwenstacyismid If u can't reply with manners, maybe u shouldn't reply at all?

  • @alexeizaraiov
    @alexeizaraiov 11 місяців тому

    The Forbidden Rell int after baron. Cannot believe this Rell is Master

  • @alvarooo1889
    @alvarooo1889 9 місяців тому

    We also need a tesis for Katarina builds

  • @jamesdalton4915
    @jamesdalton4915 11 місяців тому

    You, reading mathematical thesis on your champion. Your Ivern “tree man go burrrrrrrr”

  • @linaangeable
    @linaangeable 11 місяців тому

    Could you share the actual thesis link for more investigation purposes in the game ?

  • @mellowzo
    @mellowzo 11 місяців тому

    when/if riot patch this 4% (that's beeing a bug with the crit interaction after all) shen can discover very different builds, hope they think about it.

  • @luisdelgado6248
    @luisdelgado6248 11 місяців тому

    This is the greatest thing to ever come out of league

  • @ShredBorges
    @ShredBorges 11 місяців тому

    19:30 Petu turns into Mario WAH HAHA

  • @cial3531
    @cial3531 11 місяців тому

    Damn... If Baus would make something like this, he could justify his AP Irelia build

  • @dvmh1238
    @dvmh1238 11 місяців тому

    What a mad man.

  • @khaban
    @khaban 11 місяців тому +3

    @xPetu drop the thesis, my friend. Help a brother

    • @xPetu
      @xPetu  11 місяців тому +3

      It's in the description, you can find it on my discord server: discord.gg/KNCknuK9uX

  • @panlis6243
    @panlis6243 9 місяців тому

    My man put more effort into proving why this build is legit than I did at any point in school

  • @shiv_ring
    @shiv_ring 11 місяців тому

    18:53 i literally had to say "oh my god" out loud lol

  • @vigomatuka3055
    @vigomatuka3055 11 місяців тому

    Why didn't you sell the Doran's shield at 18:21 so you could buy Navori?

  • @bobby_books
    @bobby_books 11 місяців тому +1

    bro brought out the LaTeX

  • @stanley4280
    @stanley4280 11 місяців тому

    Dude put more work writing about league than I writing my final graduation work

  • @Barons_Trash_Heap
    @Barons_Trash_Heap 11 місяців тому

    Only the best can miss so much

  • @PKAdazGalaxiaz
    @PKAdazGalaxiaz 10 місяців тому

    6:50 you talk about having the attack speed runes instead of double adaptive force but when you showed rune page you had double adaptive and not the attack speed rune.

    • @xPetu
      @xPetu  10 місяців тому

      No I literally had attack speed, look at the runes lol

  • @noneofyourbusiness3288
    @noneofyourbusiness3288 11 місяців тому

    Item: exists.
    xPetu: for me? :D

  • @pedroernesto7867
    @pedroernesto7867 11 місяців тому

    there is a mohamed mohsen, in my uni math departament... I'll ask if is the same guy, cuz DAMN what a coincidence.

  • @thegoldexperience8340
    @thegoldexperience8340 11 місяців тому

    Mohsen, might i have some of that "water" you drinkin', bud?

  • @vensty8678
    @vensty8678 9 місяців тому

    This guy is a real Mathematishen

  • @krigom_ori
    @krigom_ori 11 місяців тому

    We're taking a glimpse of 200 years in the future 😭

  • @ILIEKMETALDUDE
    @ILIEKMETALDUDE 11 місяців тому

    Gotta whip it out as 5th item when you’re ahead and tanky

  • @JulianneStingray
    @JulianneStingray 9 місяців тому

    That Rell was an absolute buffoon

  • @malou5290
    @malou5290 10 місяців тому

    implementing papers. That is epic

  • @rocketdragon4855
    @rocketdragon4855 11 місяців тому

    19:32 this is what playing videogames should sound like :D

  • @thsscapi
    @thsscapi 9 місяців тому +1

    The worst thing would be to get started on the thesis, and find out that it actually disproves your own build 😲

    • @arthurdagnese3571
      @arthurdagnese3571 9 місяців тому

      yes, but you can calculate the diff, blame casuality if you lose, brag skill when you win, win win. altho, i would change main and make a theory before i chose again to be honest 😏

  • @thezintere-sanchannel3294
    @thezintere-sanchannel3294 11 місяців тому +1

    Had a Shen go 1/11 with this build on my promos lmao

  • @Xerathiel
    @Xerathiel 11 місяців тому

    Assumption of constant auto attack us weird. It should be limited by X huts of X time to get adequate numbers for combat.

  • @patientbear7279
    @patientbear7279 11 місяців тому

    from xPetu to Professor Petu