not a single thing you can object to grubby here, cant believe how good he played this...actually i can, its grubby! general strategy, build order, creep routes...it's been done perfectly by grubster...you can tell a lot of hard work, thinking and planning has been put into it and it definitely paid off in the end only thing that made a difference is happys flawless micro(not saying its all he's got, of course everything else is top notch as well) what people dont realize is how good happy really is, by far the best ud of all times...grubby gave the best of him and it was a great pleasure to watch, turned out into one of the all-time favourite series
the usual over exaggerating of happys skill. take coil away and tell me how this fight wouldve went (game 1 at the end). if you check the match history of happy you can see that he used to loose a lot vs foggy. foggy is a genius in this game. normally in a competetive enviroment you settle around at 50%. unless you are playing vs way weaker enemies. thats nothing thats up to debate, common knowledge. i said happy used to loose vs foggy because that changed. where does that come from ? people say happys skill is just so over the top, but why did he regulary loose to foggy then ? as i said.if you check his match history and take a look at when happy started to beat foggy almost every single time one thing stands out. its roughly at the same time when the patches that preceded the release of reforged rolled out. most races received major nerfs to their core elements while ud also received some nerfs , but those were just marginal. coil , in the ENTIRE history of wc3, was only toched ONCE. CD Reduction of 1 second. look it up for urself. as comparison liquipedia.net/warcraft/Demon_Hunter he received so many major nerfs while DK even got buffed quite hard several times. look it up urself. same for MK Bolt and Clap. I was never a die hard fan of wc3, im not idealising this game like the community thats left today does, although i also played it a LOT as a kid.i look at all this from the position of an outsider and its quite clear. core concept of coil was flawed from the very first day. the fiend unit is also problematic. compare these 2 basic tools of undead to similar tools from another race. DK and Pala, basically the same concept. The major difference though is that Paladin can heal his units aswell with holy light , but can ONLY use it as offense spell on a single race, while the DK can use coil as an offensive tool on 3 !!! other races. compare fiend to rifler. fiend doesnt cost a lot more than a rifler but if you do the math youll see that the rifler has a damage reduction of 25% !!! compared to the fiend.Those decisions were made back in the days by Blizz North and were based on certain Ideas of how the game is supposed to be.The ridiculous lower base damage of the rifler compared to the fiend was prob based on the idea that the attack type of the rifler was instant while the fiend only had missile, while in reality, the way the gameplay turned out ,it barely made a difference. Coil - Holy light was prob based on the idea of polarity beween Death(UD) and Life(HU), god knows why they decided to allow Undead to damage all other 3 races with its healing spell. Guess why Happy plays Coil Fiend in every single match. If a tool in a competetive game is absolutely mandatory and suits every situation , it is called broken. Happy is a great great player, just like Grubby and Foggy, but Wc3 is nowhere near as competetive as CS (GO). People in the Wc3 Bubble just refuse to accept that.
@@brdynali what exactly was overexaggeration in OP's post? Saying Happy has flawless micro? He definitely has one of the best, if not THE best micro around - as an example the fiend burrows and dodges vs TC stomp and kodos in game 1 here is something I don't see other players pulling off to a similar degree of perfection, Happy does it time and time again even under shit ping conditions. You can complain about DK + fiends, but not long after you wrote your comment Happy basically abandoned that and started going primarily ghouls with either Lich or DK first and I've seen him steamroll top players using all 4 UD heroes as starting heroes. If I recall right, in off-race tournaments Happy did better than anyone else (I believe he beat Focus and Colourful in ORC & NE mirrors respectively), and people still keep acting like he only wins because of abuse.
The video length was a dead giveaway of the end result... please consider anti-spoiler walls, at least in big finals guys. Thanks for the awesome game and superb cast as always
@@rastapasta625 he said what he expects - anti spoiler walls are just blank screens that last for an appropriate length for the video duration not to be a giveaway. For example 15 minutes of blank screen would do the trick here
One of Grubby's mistakes in the first game was ignoring the statues. He went for hero focus which simply does not work against happy until his mana is drained. Grubby realized that mistake in the second game but other issues and just amazing play by Happy sealed the deal.
[20] Sebuah senyawa non volatil Z, digunakan untuk membuat dua larutan yang berbeda. Larutan A mengandung 5 g senyawa Z yang dilarutkan dalam 100 g air. Sedangkan larutan B mengandung 2,31 g senyawa Z yang dilarutkan dalam 100 g benzen. Larutan A mempunyai tekanan uap 754,5 mmHg pada titik didih air normal dan larutan B mempunyai tekanan uap yang sama pada titik didih normal benzen. Hitunglah massa molar dari senyawa Z pada larutan A dan B!
for you all who are asking for spoiler screens 1. Just go watch it live 2. Don't pay attention to the duration of the video When videos have spoiler screens, they reduce audience engagement (Part of UA-cam algorithm). Not all channels will want to make that sacrifice.
Happy is in a 'lots to lose little to gain' situation somewhat. Nobody can remove this man and the hype is snowballing.. Happy is collecting checks at the end of the day. RB Happy LoL this is insane.
I watch whole tour and i Am astonished how a retired Grubby still can take maps and even series against the elite of europe , if he was just a little bit consistent in his training he could face again the best of the world such as Moon Lyn Infi Th 120
1) Happy isn't the only good non-asian player (at least remember Foggy). 2) Grubby wasn't the only good non-asian player (at least remember ToD). 3) Grubby is still a good non-asian player (he wont go to WGL but he is still challenging to asian players).
@@Dariusuzu he won against happy on many occasions. As he already streamed he played better whilst streaming than while competitions. A clearly noticable difference
@@georgjordis6337 won doesnt mean he will keep on doing it all the time there are times you have to sorta try hard to be in a good fit that way you can, the two games show that he wasnt prepared well oracle and taurens would be a better choice in this case he hadnt enough control and Happies micro control shows way higher level than Grubbies be told truth
I love UD, so imba, easy early game creep steals, lich a Gatling gun, instant kill nukes, if you ever have to lose a unit, just sacrifice it for more nova/health, frost armor op, UD has it all you name it! The only thing that could go wrong is not having a mana pot on DK, oh no wait, you have statues...
@@priyammitra3113 Will trade endurance for unholy any day, codos unarmored dies instantly to pierce, clarity and slaves costs money, coil and ritual are free. The only thing I agree for the hex and orb, but that is basically the only thing you can.
@@faltenpitt6266 Dude.. I am not even warcraft 3 player, just a spectator. So keep your unrequested advice to yourself. I am entitled to my opinion, don't need gospel from a random.
@@faltenpitt6266 also, if you look at the grand finals it's UD v UD so do not give me those statistics on HU and NE being in Semi-Finals. of course it depends on Drops+player+control. I was making a statement on the clan in general which I do not like.
@@Jzscrstsprstr I hardly think it's true ORC it's the slowest race (and UD the fastest) and tends to be more melee oriented UD are more balanced in terms of units plus ORC have healing and dispel issues (so say hello to curse and possession)not counting they lack spell immune units
@@magetathelion5825 orc has the single most effective healing item in the game (healing salves) that together with speedscroll makes the orc shop the best among all races. They also have one of the best healing skills on a hero (healing wave of sh). And 2 dispell units with walker having the biggest aoe dispell in the game. UD lost to orc since like forever. With the recent patches it's finally balanced. Grubby just isn't on top of his game against UD. There are tons of good asian orcs that dominate pro UD players.
it's so sad that this game is so unrecognized, and at the same time, the skills required and expressed are far exceeding the likes of, league of legends or fortnite or the "newer generation games".
He got both 1st and 2nd place in Gold leagues just last year. What is the point of this comment? He has already proven he is on the same level as Asians.
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After so many years, this game is still on!!!!
Jesus, Happy is just an absolute master of this video game.
cant believe this is the first comment :( my fault for looking
not a single thing you can object to grubby here, cant believe how good he played this...actually i can, its grubby!
general strategy, build order, creep routes...it's been done perfectly by grubster...you can tell a lot of hard work, thinking and planning has been put into it and it definitely paid off
in the end only thing that made a difference is happys flawless micro(not saying its all he's got, of course everything else is top notch as well)
what people dont realize is how good happy really is, by far the best ud of all times...grubby gave the best of him and it was a great pleasure to watch, turned out into one of the all-time favourite series
You should be the commentator next time :)
the usual over exaggerating of happys skill. take coil away and tell me how this fight wouldve went (game 1 at the end). if you check the match history of happy you can see that he used to loose a lot vs foggy. foggy is a genius in this game. normally in a competetive enviroment you settle around at 50%. unless you are playing vs way weaker enemies. thats nothing thats up to debate, common knowledge. i said happy used to loose vs foggy because that changed. where does that come from ? people say happys skill is just so over the top, but why did he regulary loose to foggy then ? as i said.if you check his match history and take a look at when happy started to beat foggy almost every single time one thing stands out. its roughly at the same time when the patches that preceded the release of reforged rolled out. most races received major nerfs to their core elements while ud also received some nerfs , but those were just marginal. coil , in the ENTIRE history of wc3, was only toched ONCE. CD Reduction of 1 second. look it up for urself. as comparison liquipedia.net/warcraft/Demon_Hunter he received so many major nerfs while DK even got buffed quite hard several times. look it up urself. same for MK Bolt and Clap. I was never a die hard fan of wc3, im not idealising this game like the community thats left today does, although i also played it a LOT as a kid.i look at all this from the position of an outsider and its quite clear. core concept of coil was flawed from the very first day. the fiend unit is also problematic. compare these 2 basic tools of undead to similar tools from another race. DK and Pala, basically the same concept. The major difference though is that Paladin can heal his units aswell with holy light , but can ONLY use it as offense spell on a single race, while the DK can use coil as an offensive tool on 3 !!! other races. compare fiend to rifler. fiend doesnt cost a lot more than a rifler but if you do the math youll see that the rifler has a damage reduction of 25% !!! compared to the fiend.Those decisions were made back in the days by Blizz North and were based on certain Ideas of how the game is supposed to be.The ridiculous lower base damage of the rifler compared to the fiend was prob based on the idea that the attack type of the rifler was instant while the fiend only had missile, while in reality, the way the gameplay turned out ,it barely made a difference. Coil - Holy light was prob based on the idea of polarity beween Death(UD) and Life(HU), god knows why they decided to allow Undead to damage all other 3 races with its healing spell. Guess why Happy plays Coil Fiend in every single match. If a tool in a competetive game is absolutely mandatory and suits every situation , it is called broken. Happy is a great great player, just like Grubby and Foggy, but Wc3 is nowhere near as competetive as CS (GO). People in the Wc3 Bubble just refuse to accept that.
@@brdynali wow, never heard of a depth explanation like this since Im just an average gamer enjoyer. well said.
@@brdynali what exactly was overexaggeration in OP's post? Saying Happy has flawless micro? He definitely has one of the best, if not THE best micro around - as an example the fiend burrows and dodges vs TC stomp and kodos in game 1 here is something I don't see other players pulling off to a similar degree of perfection, Happy does it time and time again even under shit ping conditions. You can complain about DK + fiends, but not long after you wrote your comment Happy basically abandoned that and started going primarily ghouls with either Lich or DK first and I've seen him steamroll top players using all 4 UD heroes as starting heroes. If I recall right, in off-race tournaments Happy did better than anyone else (I believe he beat Focus and Colourful in ORC & NE mirrors respectively), and people still keep acting like he only wins because of abuse.
39:18 Happy...
it is a trap :))
happy guso confirmed
@@gfferre8494 it's the GOAT!!!👏👏🔥🔥🔥
am not playing this game too much,but it is interesting watching,especialy with you guys cast it,so chill and funny,keep going !
The video length was a dead giveaway of the end result... please consider anti-spoiler walls, at least in big finals guys. Thanks for the awesome game and superb cast as always
So what you expect they to do? Go watch it live if you don't want to guess result by looking at video lenght or just don't look at it.
@@rastapasta625 he said what he expects - anti spoiler walls are just blank screens that last for an appropriate length for the video duration not to be a giveaway. For example 15 minutes of blank screen would do the trick here
@@rastapasta625 you stupid or what`?
Seeing WC3 tournys make me happy.
One of Grubby's mistakes in the first game was ignoring the statues. He went for hero focus which simply does not work against happy until his mana is drained. Grubby realized that mistake in the second game but other issues and just amazing play by Happy sealed the deal.
grubby is shit player, only name
@@CanCaner163 you don't even play WC3 right ?
@@justhuman9643 yes i dont
@@CanCaner163 nice
YO Im so glad you guys are back!
Thx for the commentators, always enjoy your great entertainment
[20] Sebuah senyawa non volatil Z, digunakan untuk membuat dua larutan yang
berbeda. Larutan A mengandung 5 g senyawa Z yang dilarutkan dalam 100 g air.
Sedangkan larutan B mengandung 2,31 g senyawa Z yang dilarutkan dalam 100 g
benzen. Larutan A mempunyai tekanan uap 754,5 mmHg pada titik didih air normal
dan larutan B mempunyai tekanan uap yang sama pada titik didih normal benzen.
Hitunglah massa molar dari senyawa Z pada larutan A dan B!
salah tempat bang🤣
Excellent matches, thx for making them available.
great stuff -- poor item differential on the second game but happy's micro is insane
for you all who are asking for spoiler screens
1. Just go watch it live
2. Don't pay attention to the duration of the video
When videos have spoiler screens, they reduce audience engagement (Part of UA-cam algorithm). Not all channels will want to make that sacrifice.
Happy is in a 'lots to lose little to gain' situation somewhat. Nobody can remove this man and the hype is snowballing.. Happy is collecting checks at the end of the day. RB Happy LoL this is insane.
I watch whole tour and i Am astonished how a retired Grubby still can take maps and even series against the elite of europe , if he was just a little bit consistent in his training he could face again the best of the world such as Moon Lyn Infi Th 120
Wouldn't call someone really retired if you play for hours every day...
@@Bobby.Kristensen true, these guys always find a way to make grubby look like something he isn't.
@@Bobby.Kristensen Yeah, I do watch Grubby on twitch, and if anything I'd say that his form right now is better than it was in his "prime"
@@juanroble6574 his fans are really annoying.
After so many years, undead is still OP!!!
2 of my favorite players😍
I remember I was in Highschool and See Grubby Destorys!
guys please add anti spoiler screen like grubby :(
The death knight Unholy aura makes Happy's army so mobile so it is easy to kite.
Panic in Grubby's playing, look half of the fight he just walk and not atack, while crypt f whole time atacking and do dmg on his army.
can you add some content to the end of these matches so it doesnt give away that it is a two game series based on length
Happy's pov was insane.
I’m happy for Happy
now grubby will play dota2
how can they still play the old version of the game ? and not the crappy reforged ?
the Only Good non asian player vs the Previous only good non asian player
oh how the times have changed
Foggy could also be included.
@@faltenpitt6266 True, but still pretty good compare to asian players.
You forgot ToD here. For roughly a year he was arguably the best player worldwide.
liquipedia.net/warcraft/ToD
1) Happy isn't the only good non-asian player (at least remember Foggy).
2) Grubby wasn't the only good non-asian player (at least remember ToD).
3) Grubby is still a good non-asian player (he wont go to WGL but he is still challenging to asian players).
@@helluvaboss_tv I think his point is precisely "who could do a Top 4 in Asia". Right now that's Happy.
are they playing for whose flag is better? WHICH STRIPE WILL WIN???
be happy, stop grumpy.
Why is this not reforged version?
Grubby is my favorite WC3 player :) It's so fun to watch. Though I wonder if competetiveness lowers Grubby's skills.
Grubbys not a professional player hes mostly streamer, with professional background, like you can clearly see he cant even do anything to Happy.
@@Dariusuzu he won against happy on many occasions.
As he already streamed he played better whilst streaming than while competitions. A clearly noticable difference
@@georgjordis6337 won doesnt mean he will keep on doing it all the time there are times you have to sorta try hard to be in a good fit that way you can, the two games show that he wasnt prepared well oracle and taurens would be a better choice in this case he hadnt enough control and Happies micro control shows way higher level than Grubbies be told truth
I wanna see Happy vs. Moon more :(
Grubby is such a beast.
Grunbby is clearly past his prime.
Блин, помню году в 2005 смотрел демки грабби(орк)-мун(эльф). Это тот же самый грабби?
если не ошибаюсь мун был топ 1 мира, а грабби топ 2.
По сабжу - да. А мне больше всего в душу запала его катка 2007 против люцифера где грубый вивернами снёс пауков без апгрейда, тончайший тайминг
And, again, Grubby gets his ass handed to him. No surprise. Rather more a surprise he is allowed to play in these leagues.
Happy is the GOAT! Awe Emperor!😁👏👏👏👏🔥🔥🔥🇷🇺💪
Probably Happy was on a high winrate vs any Orc players
not really, depend on thr orc player level. he used to lose to fly, focus,lyn or even 120 orc
I love UD, so imba, easy early game creep steals, lich a Gatling gun, instant kill nukes, if you ever have to lose a unit, just sacrifice it for more nova/health, frost armor op, UD has it all you name it! The only thing that could go wrong is not having a mana pot on DK, oh no wait, you have statues...
stfu
@@priyammitra3113 Will trade endurance for unholy any day, codos unarmored dies instantly to pierce, clarity and slaves costs money, coil and ritual are free. The only thing I agree for the hex and orb, but that is basically the only thing you can.
@@TaBaoHoBa Hex can be instantly dispeled by Destroyers ... so you have to kill first all statues and Destroyers
Frostwyrm are good vs Orc. Upgrade armour with frost armour and high level coils. AMS also and unholy frenzy it with casters.
that f ing burrow
Thats just miles away from dota skills standards
AVE the emperor !
Madness.
Shock Wave is much better against UD than War Stomp. Grubby would have won if he had taken Shock Wave instead of War Stomp.
Grubby foreveeer
I hate undead. Such an overpowered race with that Nuke and high defense/regen! can somone balance this clan!
@@faltenpitt6266 Dude.. I am not even warcraft 3 player, just a spectator. So keep your unrequested advice to yourself. I am entitled to my opinion, don't need gospel from a random.
@@faltenpitt6266 also, if you look at the grand finals it's UD v UD so do not give me those statistics on HU and NE being in Semi-Finals. of course it depends on Drops+player+control. I was making a statement on the clan in general which I do not like.
und is weakest race
n00b?
Undead is the weakest race.
"ORC are UD counter"
Yeah keep dreaming
it was this way for eternity
happy is more than undead. he is god wc3 player
@@SCDJMU but grubby got rekt even by XlorD
@@Jzscrstsprstr I hardly think it's true ORC it's the slowest race (and UD the fastest) and tends to be more melee oriented UD are more balanced in terms of units plus ORC have healing and dispel issues (so say hello to curse and possession)not counting they lack spell immune units
@@magetathelion5825 orc has the single most effective healing item in the game (healing salves) that together with speedscroll makes the orc shop the best among all races. They also have one of the best healing skills on a hero (healing wave of sh). And 2 dispell units with walker having the biggest aoe dispell in the game.
UD lost to orc since like forever. With the recent patches it's finally balanced. Grubby just isn't on top of his game against UD. There are tons of good asian orcs that dominate pro UD players.
Happy is the 👑
Grubby couldnt outdps death coils healing.. That's disgusting
Watching good undead players makes me wana barf and how broken that race is
You sure you not talking about NElfs buddy?
Grubby just smokes way too much wee
Buff Orc !!!!!
I am the best in This game
No matter what grubby does happy always gets him, this is so weiiiird
Yea undead as a race is x2 as strong as orc
@@bojanpet555 not really, with a fully formed orcs army
undead dont stand a chance
ig thats why the AI summons only 2 heroes while other races get 3
@@krissloo143 www.w3champions.com/OverallStatistics/winrates-per-race-and-map Every rank and on every map undead is the best
@@krissloo143 undead got nerved whyle orc got buffed - i guess ud was indead stronger than orc
EMPEROR
Grubby is nervozite..
Happy good grubby low ;)
grubby is yes, novice
it's so sad that this game is so unrecognized, and at the same time, the skills required and expressed are far exceeding the likes of, league of legends or fortnite or the "newer generation games".
UD still OP
No one playing def edition?
Ezpz.
ok, grubby losing, but he better ! Хэппи задрот, который продолжает играть в эту игру, когда показывать результаты уже и не кому, не та конкуренция.
:(((, не интересно
BM? Boring😑
I love how they praised actions that would be seen as normal for asian players.
A casters job.
Then just name one asian player has micro like happy.
@@rastapasta625 Moon, Lyn, 120, Th000, Infi, the list goes on pretty easy.
He got both 1st and 2nd place in Gold leagues just last year. What is the point of this comment? He has already proven he is on the same level as Asians.
@@LionKing-qp1lk There is more than 1 player in Asia.
Luckiest wc3 pro is grubby. Not the best for certain.
watch Grubby's tube. rooting for the Undead so they free us from the tyrannical funeral industry complex that is bringing the world down to ruins