OK, I've finished watching it, Serral is just a monster, a machine. Maru who is an incredible player, one of the strongest by far, looks like an amateur.
The scouting was everything. Maru's scouting was shit. He let lings just walk into his base and kill everything cuz he didn't have a single marine patrolling the attack paths to see them coming. The entire game would've gone different if Maru could scout worth a damn.
Roughly one year ago, when Serral dismantled Maru, somebody said: "Serral makes Maru look like somebody I could beat." Well, the same was true on Sunday. And his dominance is even more impressive, if we look at other high level Terran vs Zerg matches in this series. Name 3 other great zerg players beside Serral: Dark, Rogue, Reynor - I guess most will pick some from these names. Name 3 great Terrans - Maru, Clem, Olivereia - at least the first 2 will probably be an autoinclude for everybody. And if we take a look: Clem took out Rogue, Maru took out Dark and Olivereia took out Reynor. So the 3 best Zerg got all elimanted by Terran. ONLY if we include Serral into the count does Zerg gets a score on the board. -> It definitly is not Zerg that is OP. It is Serral. Without Serral, Terran would have dominated this tournament.
Yeah which is why the balance team are sitting snickering rubbing their hands wondering how to buff terran or nerf zerg, now, to send zergs home outta the price pool again just because terran and their legacy of buffs and supportive nerfs never had anyone impressed by their (inject eco, inject attack speed, tier 1 stutterstep a-move-cancer) gameplay.
Don't get me wrong... One thing I notice is that serral used ling bane comp with Oliveira and just needed to go a mid game army comp when needed... With Maru I noticed that he immediately go to mid game army comp... My observation though
@@axelmolina1031 I think because Maru played turtle against Serral. In the first 2 games, his game was very passive. He only sent out 2 medivacs of marines. 3rd game is a bit of unfortunate, he let the lings in. And 4th game died to roach timing.
@@Billneyugn one thing I noticed with Maru as well... He does turtle if he plays with serral, and most of the time in their matches, serral use Maru's weakness... The early roach ravenger comp
Agreed. I don't even like Maru, but I felt so bad for him. The stupid GOAT debate makes it all about him vs. Serral, and that's a comparison no one has a chance in (at least, for the last few years). Maru's real accomplishments get overshadowed by the debate, and the stubbornness of his fans makes people annoyed. I wish SC2 had silver and bronze medals - that way, reaching number 2 and number 3 would be more celebrated. This would help spread the love around and make the scene more vibrant and nuanced.
only Dark , Byun , Clem and Maxpax can fight Serral , thank for Serral go back to save zerg , we needed a villain and Dark didn't do well Clem is our Spider-Man Even though Reyno can't face Serral, I want Reyno to fight the Korean instead of Serral TYTY and MAXPAX have the potential to become the strongest Serral is clearly the final boss of SC2 Another factor is that Maru is on the other side of the world, he was very tired when he came to Europe however Serral had just returned so it was only fair We need a hero to fight Serral During his peak, hero (name) defeated every zerg
I think it is more of a playstyle problem. Maru really does not get how to play against serral. His style does not work. You need constant pressure on serral like Clem does in order to win. You can't turtle vs serral
Artosis will still come up with some denial excuse and the Teamliquid picking Maru as #1 GOAT and Serral #2 GOAT was questionable after the last IEM Katowice grandfinals and be even worse after this.
@@malaysianman5941The problem is Rogue also never beat Serral on lan. But also, their biggest excuse for ignoring Lan head to head records like that is they aren't talking about the "best player of all time" rather "the greatest player of all time." Meaning they don't have to be the best player which even Artosis has said "yeah, without a doubt Serral is the best player in the world probably the best player ever, but that doesn't just mean he's the goat." - Artosis
@@AdmiralBison Well, we all know Artosis. Hey, I love him, but to take his opinion on a question like "balance" or "GOAT" seriously is something nobody should consider doing.
Serral is the GOAT no argue, no doubt! He dominates Maru, Hero in 4-0 not even a close match! Round 1 Maru only last 11mins Round 2 Maru only last 10mins Round 3 Maru only last 9mins. Round 4 Maru only Last 8mins.
Serral just did what he always does: slowly suffocating his enemies, let them breath a bit then choke their neck again then repeat, let them have hope and the will to survive, only to crush it. Until they are completely broken. You can see her0 basically threw games in the last games against serral, even when he got one game in his hand, telling you how much serral crushes his enemies' will before devouring them. Maru is just another Serral's food. And maru's fans are crying so much seeing their idols being eating alive in a desperate manner
What's interesting is the fact that Serral knew Maru's mindset. Who else would not had started zergling speed before the 6+ minutes mark not in one but in two games on the same series? G O A T
@@zenartvonduke380 he doesn't have to prove anything to anyone, anymore. You don't like him, nice. Everybody knows who the GOAT is, and even Artosis (who is korea-biased) may change his mind soon from Bonjwa to GOAT...
@@zenartvonduke380 Serral is the GOAT, but you Terran/Maru fanboys can't seem to digest the fact. Also, GSL is irrelevant, as there are bigger tournaments at this point. And all the BS about GSL being better because it allows more time for preparation is dumb, because Serral has shown again and again that he is also the best at that, no one can be better than him with preparation, and he always crushes it with the mind games.
It's worth mentioning (in case you don't know) that Maru is an absolutely amazing player, who would be probably called the GOAT in some alternate, "Serral-free" universe.
Only time I recall recently was a best of three for world team league or something. I think it was the previous map pool cuz I believe one of the games was on altitude
Serral is probably having more trouble dealing with player like Clem, he is way more aggressive. Maru turtle playstyle just give Serral enough room to do anything he wants
When I first started watching starcraft 2 I remember a fantastic series where maru beat serral. This was years ago tho when the ravens anti armour missiles also did damage
If you only count Lan wins Maru's last win vs Serral was WESG 2017 Maru hasn't beaten Serral on lan even once since then its kinda crazy that its been 7 years.
Reynor and Rogue didn't even make it to the semis. Maru won 3-1 over Dark in the semis. Oliveira wiped the floor with Reynor in this tournament. The balance is fine, it's Serral that is OP
damn, how Serral gonna 4-0 Maru twice sheeeeshh, that's hardcore. SC2 is unforgiving, being on Marus level and getting 4-0 for ffs at least Maru has a bunch of 1st place wins/champs
I think Maru is particularly weak to Serral. Oliveira did much better vs Serral, despite having way lower stats overall. I still don't feel bad for the 8 time GSL winner; he got 2nd place here (again) and has a huge list of trophies and achievements.
Still zero world championships. Maybe he should stop farming low level Korean tournaments and come play against the best in Europe ;) Jk, Jk, it's just funny how the tables are turning.
@manumainio3451 Well, Reynor already went to Korea and got his ass handed to him at the last GSL - and he is not the only one who looks suddenly a lot less amazing while in Korea. And Maru doesn't do badly outside of Korea. It's just that Serral is in a class of his own. Europe has some other strong players, but they are not particularly amazing without Serral. When he retires, Korea will be right back on top.
Dammm. To think only Oliveira was the only player to have a fighting chance against Serral. I have not seen Maru get dominated so badly in a long long time.
Maru was destroyed again in the same manner a few months ago in IEM Katowice. Another easy 4-0 by Serral. It's not even a surprise anymore, Serral vs Maru is the most obvious result in the game's entire history.
Oliveira is on the same team as Serral and they practice a LOT together. When they started out Oliveira said he lost 20 in a row, had an overall record of 10-227 or something like that. But they played more and more and trained with each other and grinded it out and he identified this one small timing window of slight vulnerability in serral's game, and that's why he goes for this octorax/8rax timing push to the 3rd, cutting workers and doing a massive tank/marine push at like 8:30 - and this is what won him two maps. On Alcyone, when Serral committed to the breakout attack, he actually had enough to beat the army he saw - the problem is Oliveira had another 20-30 supply right behind serral's vision / scouting range, so Serral got tricked once.
Man, as a Maru BIG fan it hurts so hard to see my favourite player being absolutely destroyed again in finals again. And right now it's not about the Serral (i don't like him but gotta admit he is the best), it's about Maru choking so hard. Remember watching him like 5-6 years ago 😢
Yeah. I'm a Serral fan and I don't generally like Maru, but I felt real empathy for him during Katowice and today. If anything, these 2 finals reminded me that Maru is mortal, like the rest of us, and that he's worked hella hard since a young age to be where he is. So at least it gave some of us a new perspective on him, and more appreciation for his achievements.
Serral is closer to perfection in playing SC2 as anyone else before. about 6 years ago when he hasn't won a single tourney yet, I predicted that he is going to be the best non korean ever, but he has become the GOAT. unbelievable.
I mean, if he's playing BW at the moment, it's safe to assume he's fuming with rage. poor guy, I still can't understand how someone can be suh a chill, nice person while casting and such an unrelenting screeching douchebag while playing.
I seriously spent like 10 minutes trying to figure out where the rest of the BO7 was. Like was this the first game? Is there a second part? Gave up and watched Serral snap Maru like a fucking twig in an amount of time I didn't think was possible. Serral is the GOAT. There is no doubt.
**SPOILER ALERT** Serral made beating Maru look so remarkably simple, it almost made me think I could do it too. I know I can't even come close to it but, the clinic Serral just put on made it look so easy.
@@miniwaern What are you even talking about? I put a spoiler alert in all caps and bold. Sharing a similar thought as other people isn't copying either. You're weird dude.
Maru is such a great player that has no answer to Serral and arrives already defeated. He'll need to do what Serral did when Reynor started beating him, to change his playstyle, his basis changed, which is a very zerg thing to do if you think about it. It was bad at first, then it was good, really good.
@@HenriqueRJchikisaying Zerg op lmao 🤣 after the last balance patch every caster literally agreed terran is by far the strongest race with Protoss in second and Zerg last.. stop thinking Zerg is broken, Serral is just the outlier.. they hard nerfed banelings they hard nerfed infestors. And they buffed dropper overlord speed which still isn’t even used lmao 🤣
@@florin.lupascu Completely baseless and defamatory claims. I have been watching pro SC2 since it's inception and I have not seen PiG of all people act in a way that could possibly make anyone believe he was jealous of Serral and hated him. I've even heard PiG say extremely praising things about Serral, you're just reaching and it's honestly gross.
You can compare the match between Oliveira and Serral. At the 8:30 mark, Oli's 160 supply "full-force punch" (with at least 3 tanks and infantry units) is already halfway across the map and on the way to the Zerg's base. However, Maru often only has around 130 supply at the 8:30 mark, applying much less pressure on Serral in the early game. Perhaps his shoulder injury prevents him from executing high-intensity pressure on the Zerg in the early stages.
If these are the GOATS (and they are), then it's pretty fucked up for a GOAT to know he is basically nothing compared to the other GOAT. Second final in a year's time where he does not get 1 map win in. I think Maru should be happy Serral never joines GSL properly, or those 8 GSL wins, and maybe even more, would be somewhere else....
Look up Hakuho in regards to Sumo. Respect to Serral but his win streaks and tournament wins are like an ant in comparison. Undeniable greatness in the esports realm though.
I don't think is fair or even necessary to compare players of different sports. Serral is great and undeniably the goat of SC2, but many sports have had very dominating figures. E.g., Alexander Karelin in wrestling. Happy has dominated WC3 for the last few years. Rapha is probably the god of Quake - he has won 16 major tournaments and countless others ever since 2008. His one-sided dominance might be one of the reasons arena shooters aren't as popular in esports as other shooters - he just makes it too one-sided, lol.
I'm sorry, I just HAVE to add this: This is Serral WHILE IN MILITARY SERVICE! He spends most of his days learning how to fight in a real war, not playing SC2. Sure, he probably has access to a computer to keep his skill on point, but believe me - you don't have the energy to do it while in military service. And he's finnish, they have a record of having some of the hardest military service out there. People who watch this and whine about balance just remember - The PLAYERS themselves don't. Maru doesn't think Zerg is OP. He's just frustrated when he faces Serral because he's just THAT good.
Serral joined in s special military troop that is specialized for athlet. That's why he has a lots of time to practice sc2. but that is still unreal for him to maintain his God mode in military service.
We've got a special unit for people who need to train their sport while serving. Still, army is his full time dayjob for now, even if there is support for his SC2 career.
Whoa what did I just watch?! Maru got swept away so hard man. I know Serral is one of the top players, but I don't think I've seen him play this well before.
He gets weirdly nervous when he plays Serral, like he knows the ass-beating that is coming his way. You don't see him making these mistakes vs Dark or Shin.
if you're a pro player you should probably know to put your Depot back up.
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@@RealFableFox If Serral forgot to inject and died, would you say imba? If Serral forgot to get detection, would you cry imba? If Serral forgot to scout? Would your salty tears cry imba? If Maru forgets the very easy task of blocking his enemy from coming easily into his base, that is not a question of balance.
zerglings are cheap early unit. But it was fast and powerful enough even in early game terran has to play "the floor is lava". do you have any idea how many matches I saw if terran send their units out in early game without medivac, artosis would cast "those units are so dead" and he usually right. zergling speed and damages and also baneling ( so intsead of just one bane, player need to use two do destroy svc now?) not to mention health left make the easy picking for zerglings. let me give another example: if terran disable colossus, in order to destroy it terran unit have to go in and fight other units stand shoulder to shoulder with to colossus. abducts on the other hands takes a unit and throw them to your army group. Anyway I'm going to say this (and this isn't even my word - but from someone who is knowledgeable in the game): SC1 - as imbalance as it might be - the controls limit it. SC2, now the imbalances (not only in stat, but by design) multiplies. Artosis own word in one of his videos are ( taking about bane patch) zerg is a race that attack moves and win. Now it still attack move and win, just with baneling has less hp.
@@KoozjeTo elaborate, Serral was put into a special program specifically for international sports competitors within Finland allowing them to still compete in international events. And Serral is the first esports player in Finland to be accepted into this program.
A strat executed by a pro hits way faster and harder than a plat player doing a similar build. And no, roach timings work at high level, especially roach/ravager. A 1/1 roach trades well against similar level marines and the ravagers can snipe tanks.
@@hunteriv4869 it really doesn't matter what the play is as long as it's effective for the current situation. Serral scouting is top stuff. I can't count how many times Clem has dismantled zerg players with a hand full of marines that were in the right place at the right time with the zerg players being clueless. Serral is just on another level on all fundamentals of the game: scouting, defense, attacking, economy, micro, macro. You're not going to get lucky often, you won't surprise him and you can't turtle against him. I'm so glad we have him because the alternative is a player like Maru can just turtle and win grand finals which is extremely frustrating to watch.
Well, Maru can be considered a Diamond player when he is against the GOAT. The difference is skill is just that vast as shown once again in a major grand final.
People in the comments thinking Serral would dominate in GSL. GSL is completely different. Serral knows he can't afford to play all those online tournaments and he never plays them. The reason he dominates is because he plays zerg (the race that can afford to play the same mapped out game 1000 times in a row and win), and because he only gets to play people like Maru twice a year. Oliveira is on the same team as Serral, so he gets to play him more, and we saw their series was equal. No, Serral can't dominate in GSL the same way he dominates these one-offs. Maru can. That's a completely different level of achievement.
You Terran mains always cry and cope in the comments. Serral's 75% win rate against Maru is no coincidence neither are his accomplishments vs any player. He is literally the best statistical player of all time and it is not even close. Reason why he doesn't join GSL is because he has to spend a lot of time in Korea and it doesn't fit his lifestyle since he likes talking walks and playing golf and whatever farm boys do in their free time. Every single Korean he has faced has always had the time to prepare against Serral yet they always have a losing win rate against him. There is no excuse I do not care. Sure GSL is different but I have yet to see a single Koreans dominate the game like Serral has for 6 years now. He wins almost everything he participates in and is always the favorite to win by a wide margin. Look at his rating and he is literally leagues above any Zerg. He has 3999 against Protoss, 4000+ against Terran and 3600 against Zerg. The people below him statistically are Maru, Maxpax, Clem and Dark in that order, yet they are still far below Serral. Serral is a league of its own. No Zerg is as good as him. Dark is 5th right now and is also way below Maru and Clem who are both Terrans. Terrans always cry they have been doing so since the beginning of the game.
@@2nerC9 that's because you don't understand how terrans and zergs came to be. No doubt Serral is the best zerg player, but you can't compare what he has to do to win with what terrans need to do to win. Terran was designed in the same fashion any RTS games of the time were designed; you have a natural production cycle roughly reflecting how human production works in real life. Then the designers sat down and started inventing insane spells and mechanics for the other two races. That's why basic rules of RTS don't always apply to zerg or protoss, with zerg being able to go to 80 drones in 3 minutes, etc. Terran is predictable, with slow linear ramp-up of production and economy and limited opportunities for suprise. Zerg can throw down a fake third and go build 100 roaches that you can't do anything against unless you scout it immediately and do the exact right thing. All Serral has to do is play the same game he practiced 10000 times perfectly, and he wins. No terran can ever just play standard, they need to come up with new inventive and unique builds every tournament, and not show them until the finals. It is not a level playing field in the slightest, and you can't compare Serral's domination with any terran simply because domination like that is not possible with terran no matter how much better you are than everyone else.
@@alk672so much copium 😂 if T is "harder" to play, why don't T players switch to a different race and earn the easy money? moreover, why was the last world championship finals a TvT (Oliveira vs Maru)? why does this year's world championship (EWC) have 9 Terrans, 5 Zergs and 4 Protoss? repeat: there are as many Terrans qualified in the tournamemt as Z and P _combined_. can you explain that?
I think its more likely that he's choking, now I don't think he should win if he was in peak form but he has a surprisingly long record of losing finals even in Gsl it took him quite a few tries to get his G5L and even his pretty one sided loss to Olivera in the prior Katowice, it just seems like he just flops in finals.
@@Mglunafh Maru was pretty dead after the mid-game Raven/Roach pushes; anything after that is just a nail in the coffin. I was surprised to see Maru this less active. He was totally different from Dark, and Serral was playing the same style (Raven/Roach) all the way, but Maru didn't have any counter measurements...He could have learnt from Olivera match and prepared but he didn't...
When you have a week or more to prepare for a specific opponent and their specific style, strengths/weaknesses that absolutely makes the tournament a different type of tournament. If you don’t get that it’s fine, you don’t have to get it. But not playing in GSL certainly doesn’t take away from the fact that Serral is the best in the world and has been for a while.
@Bananaman-jm4xl dude, it's fair and square. It's not like Serral had the time to study maru either and same can be said for maru. If I get into a street scrap with you more than once without knowing you at all but I win them all then that would make me a better fighter. Format being different is excuses excuses and some more excuses. If Maru is the better player, he would have won wether its ESL, IEM or GSL format.
Your boy serral won and you're still yapping? Congrats to serral. He's obviously better. Too bad his fan still feels the need to defend him. Yap yap yap yap yap.
(23:05) Watch closely how an Ultralisk surrounded for three seconds by ~17 SCV's gets three SCV kills. Four chops kills three out of 17 SCV's. Zerg so op.
Serral is incredible good, but Maru wasn't playing as he was some years ago. He in fact tried to win with the same strategy 4 times in row with just small to no changes. So there was no need for serral to change something either. Olivera was by far more creative and way less predictable.
It's funny to think that to finish the debate once and for all about who is the GOAT of Starcraft2, Serral would have to go to korean territory and win the GSL... That would be the greatest achievments in gaming history: Beating the first nation who made gaming a possible substainable job, on the game that made it all possible. Just imagine...
Serral already won gsl twice against the world, it is not the same but he beat all the Koreans in an epic final with stats and in that same year he won blizcon again against stats
He doesn't need to win GSL to be the goat. It's a silly idea, tbh. The debate is over. Serral has a winning score against every player in the GSL. All the players from the GSL come to international tournaments and lose to Serral. Maru, the best GSL has to offer, has been 4-0'd again and again by Serral. Saying GSL has any significance for the GOAT debate when the GOAT has been consistently beating GSL players for 8 years now is comical and absurd. It's the skill, the players and the matches between them that count in SC2, not the organizing company, the country, or the name of the tournament.
Even a direct nerf to serral like military service doesn't do shit. He's still the GOAT. Maru is doodoo. GSL players should know by now that they have to prepare for Serral by default because they will eventually face him.
The new nerfs are destroying the zerg slowly Decreased hp of banes Decreased hydra stats Queen no longer flies Attack damage of mutas reduced . . . The list goes on
The best Zerg vs the best Terran. The races are so different that saying there is only 1 GOAT doesnt make sense. Zerg when mastered is an unstoppable race. Terran or Protoss are in a lower tier.
The problem is Rogue actually faired barely any better. Closer series but similar results... Rogue has never beaten Serral on lan. Similar to Maru who hasn't beaten Serral on lan since WESG 2017.
BO7 being 45 min long, you already know what happens 😂
OK, I've finished watching it, Serral is just a monster, a machine. Maru who is an incredible player, one of the strongest by far, looks like an amateur.
@@ZAWARUD00 On top of this, Serral is getting that Boot-camp training and now he'll be in an even better headspace. lmao
There's been bo1's longer than that rofl
What I love about this match is terran bronze fanboys crying in the corner, sometimes yell imba imba with wet eyes and running nose.
Bonked
Serral so disgustingly smooth in his gameplay. All the tiny things adding up to an overwhelming advantage. The scouting is just **chef's kiss**
The scouting was everything. Maru's scouting was shit. He let lings just walk into his base and kill everything cuz he didn't have a single marine patrolling the attack paths to see them coming. The entire game would've gone different if Maru could scout worth a damn.
Roughly one year ago, when Serral dismantled Maru, somebody said:
"Serral makes Maru look like somebody I could beat."
Well, the same was true on Sunday.
And his dominance is even more impressive, if we look at other high level Terran vs Zerg matches in this series.
Name 3 other great zerg players beside Serral: Dark, Rogue, Reynor - I guess most will pick some from these names.
Name 3 great Terrans - Maru, Clem, Olivereia - at least the first 2 will probably be an autoinclude for everybody.
And if we take a look: Clem took out Rogue, Maru took out Dark and Olivereia took out Reynor.
So the 3 best Zerg got all elimanted by Terran.
ONLY if we include Serral into the count does Zerg gets a score on the board.
-> It definitly is not Zerg that is OP. It is Serral.
Without Serral, Terran would have dominated this tournament.
Yeah which is why the balance team are sitting snickering rubbing their hands wondering how to buff terran or nerf zerg, now, to send zergs home outta the price pool again just because terran and their legacy of buffs and supportive nerfs never had anyone impressed by their (inject eco, inject attack speed, tier 1 stutterstep a-move-cancer) gameplay.
Zerg still strongest race.
Serral go to military to learn Terran weakness
I HOWLED
Serral after vs Oliveira: "Wheww, that was close".
Serral after vs Maru: "Easy peasyyy"
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Don't get me wrong... One thing I notice is that serral used ling bane comp with Oliveira and just needed to go a mid game army comp when needed... With Maru I noticed that he immediately go to mid game army comp... My observation though
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@@axelmolina1031 I think because Maru played turtle against Serral. In the first 2 games, his game was very passive. He only sent out 2 medivacs of marines. 3rd game is a bit of unfortunate, he let the lings in. And 4th game died to roach timing.
@@Billneyugn one thing I noticed with Maru as well... He does turtle if he plays with serral, and most of the time in their matches, serral use Maru's weakness... The early roach ravenger comp
This was painful to watch. Maru is an incredible player yet he gets sweeped by Serral like any average terran. It's ridiculous how good Serral is.
Agreed. I don't even like Maru, but I felt so bad for him. The stupid GOAT debate makes it all about him vs. Serral, and that's a comparison no one has a chance in (at least, for the last few years). Maru's real accomplishments get overshadowed by the debate, and the stubbornness of his fans makes people annoyed. I wish SC2 had silver and bronze medals - that way, reaching number 2 and number 3 would be more celebrated. This would help spread the love around and make the scene more vibrant and nuanced.
Good at abusing broken race you mean?
only Dark , Byun , Clem and Maxpax can fight Serral , thank for Serral go back to save zerg , we needed a villain and Dark didn't do well
Clem is our Spider-Man
Even though Reyno can't face Serral, I want Reyno to fight the Korean instead of Serral
TYTY and MAXPAX have the potential to become the strongest
Serral is clearly the final boss of SC2
Another factor is that Maru is on the other side of the world, he was very tired when he came to Europe
however Serral had just returned so it was only fair
We need a hero to fight Serral
During his peak, hero (name) defeated every zerg
I think he has a weakness to Serral in particular. Oliveira did better vs Serral than Maru did - way better, in fact.
I think it is more of a playstyle problem. Maru really does not get how to play against serral. His style does not work. You need constant pressure on serral like Clem does in order to win. You can't turtle vs serral
I think this ends the debate once and for all
Artosis will still come up with some denial excuse
and the Teamliquid picking Maru as #1 GOAT and Serral #2 GOAT was questionable after the last IEM Katowice grandfinals and be even worse after this.
@@AdmiralBison 😂 yea true, Arty always said Rogue is the GOAT.
@@malaysianman5941The problem is Rogue also never beat Serral on lan.
But also, their biggest excuse for ignoring Lan head to head records like that is they aren't talking about the "best player of all time" rather "the greatest player of all time." Meaning they don't have to be the best player which even Artosis has said "yeah, without a doubt Serral is the best player in the world probably the best player ever, but that doesn't just mean he's the goat." - Artosis
@@AdmiralBison Well, we all know Artosis.
Hey, I love him, but to take his opinion on a question like "balance" or "GOAT" seriously is something nobody should consider doing.
@@wedgeantilles8575 this is so funny because it's so true 😂
Serral is the GOAT no argue, no doubt! He dominates Maru, Hero in 4-0 not even a close match!
Round 1 Maru only last 11mins
Round 2 Maru only last 10mins
Round 3 Maru only last 9mins.
Round 4 Maru only Last 8mins.
Seral keeps his brains in that Zerg evolution chamber. You can see it evolving in real time.
Well that’s what she said
Flawless performance by Serral. The goat 🐐
Magnus Carlsen level dominance.
Solid shout out
Well sc2 is more real time than strategy so maybe more like OpTic Hecz level dominance
@@judjudersawn2596well they did nerf Terran to the ground again so serial looks even more OP
@@AntonioLopez-kw3ev Did they? Oliveira didn't seem to get the memo then
Lol sounds like a skill issue
„Serral woke up and choose violence“ he was clearly not in the mood to fuck around After the close call against oliviera
i think he was holding some back against oli, gotta realize they're training partners
This is indisputably the best ZvT of all time. 15/15 opening vs the best terran in the world 4 times in a row, making zero mistakes.
he makes the matchup look solved
Are you serious? Did you miss the semis?
@@hughjainus9686 Which, while better games, was not the best ZvT. As in, this is peak zerg performance.
@@hughjainus9686 Serral played way better in finals.
Just a few words: perfect, beautiful, SERRAL
Serral just did what he always does: slowly suffocating his enemies, let them breath a bit then choke their neck again then repeat, let them have hope and the will to survive, only to crush it. Until they are completely broken. You can see her0 basically threw games in the last games against serral, even when he got one game in his hand, telling you how much serral crushes his enemies' will before devouring them.
Maru is just another Serral's food. And maru's fans are crying so much seeing their idols being eating alive in a desperate manner
What's interesting is the fact that Serral knew Maru's mindset. Who else would not had started zergling speed before the 6+ minutes mark not in one but in two games on the same series?
G O A T
the fact that Serral chooses his games. It's like mayweather and manny pacquiao in esports.
@@zenartvonduke380 You want him to go to korea, right?
@@teodoreh nope i couldn't care less. He is not the goat if he doesnt go. The issue still stands. Artosis is still correct
@@zenartvonduke380 he doesn't have to prove anything to anyone, anymore. You don't like him, nice. Everybody knows who the GOAT is, and even Artosis (who is korea-biased) may change his mind soon from Bonjwa to GOAT...
@@zenartvonduke380 Serral is the GOAT, but you Terran/Maru fanboys can't seem to digest the fact.
Also, GSL is irrelevant, as there are bigger tournaments at this point. And all the BS about GSL being better because it allows more time for preparation is dumb, because Serral has shown again and again that he is also the best at that, no one can be better than him with preparation, and he always crushes it with the mind games.
It's worth mentioning (in case you don't know) that Maru is an absolutely amazing player, who would be probably called the GOAT in some alternate, "Serral-free" universe.
what happened to the koreans? or did the europeans "just clawed" their way in step by step?
A lot of people seem to live in that space somehow. Probably stayed up watching too many 3am GSL streams throughout the years.
Great game, great season, congrats Serral, bravo Starcraft! ❤❤❤
Maru's style is Serral's perfect bread and butter answer. I have yet to see Maru beat Serral to be honest.
Only time I recall recently was a best of three for world team league or something. I think it was the previous map pool cuz I believe one of the games was on altitude
Serral is probably having more trouble dealing with player like Clem, he is way more aggressive. Maru turtle playstyle just give Serral enough room to do anything he wants
When I first started watching starcraft 2 I remember a fantastic series where maru beat serral. This was years ago tho when the ravens anti armour missiles also did damage
hard counter
If you only count Lan wins Maru's last win vs Serral was WESG 2017 Maru hasn't beaten Serral on lan even once since then its kinda crazy that its been 7 years.
It's inarguable at this point. He is the GOAT.
Goat of broken race what an achievement
@@rouxypouxy9245other Zs nowhere to be seen, so your point is not valid
@@roky2822 Life, Reynor, Rogue
@@rouxypouxy9245 broken race xD braindead
Reynor and Rogue didn't even make it to the semis. Maru won 3-1 over Dark in the semis. Oliveira wiped the floor with Reynor in this tournament. The balance is fine, it's Serral that is OP
4:0... Serral again dominated Maru... The stupid GOAT question is defenetly solved.
can I get a fking spoiler alert bro come tf on
There's still going to be whiners out there.
@@judjudersawn2596don’t read the comments
@@biometal770 No dont put "maru wins 4-0" at the very start of the second comment on the page. Put spoiler alert.
@@keizan5132 When you whine for common sense its called making a good point
damn, how Serral gonna 4-0 Maru twice sheeeeshh, that's hardcore. SC2 is unforgiving, being on Marus level and getting 4-0 for ffs at least Maru has a bunch of 1st place wins/champs
I think Maru is particularly weak to Serral. Oliveira did much better vs Serral, despite having way lower stats overall. I still don't feel bad for the 8 time GSL winner; he got 2nd place here (again) and has a huge list of trophies and achievements.
Maru can become champion again when sereal is not around
Maru has never won any world championship in his life. He excels in Korea but never made it in the world stage.
Still zero world championships. Maybe he should stop farming low level Korean tournaments and come play against the best in Europe ;) Jk, Jk, it's just funny how the tables are turning.
@manumainio3451 Well, Reynor already went to Korea and got his ass handed to him at the last GSL - and he is not the only one who looks suddenly a lot less amazing while in Korea. And Maru doesn't do badly outside of Korea. It's just that Serral is in a class of his own. Europe has some other strong players, but they are not particularly amazing without Serral. When he retires, Korea will be right back on top.
Dammm. To think only Oliveira was the only player to have a fighting chance against Serral. I have not seen Maru get dominated so badly in a long long time.
Maru was destroyed again in the same manner a few months ago in IEM Katowice. Another easy 4-0 by Serral.
It's not even a surprise anymore, Serral vs Maru is the most obvious result in the game's entire history.
Oliveira is on the same team as Serral and they practice a LOT together. When they started out Oliveira said he lost 20 in a row, had an overall record of 10-227 or something like that. But they played more and more and trained with each other and grinded it out and he identified this one small timing window of slight vulnerability in serral's game, and that's why he goes for this octorax/8rax timing push to the 3rd, cutting workers and doing a massive tank/marine push at like 8:30 - and this is what won him two maps.
On Alcyone, when Serral committed to the breakout attack, he actually had enough to beat the army he saw - the problem is Oliveira had another 20-30 supply right behind serral's vision / scouting range, so Serral got tricked once.
@@chloesmith4065 10-227? Dayum. 22 losses in a row? So for him to take 2 games out of 5 is remarkable
Absolutely impressed with the commentary. Fantastic play by play from the commentators.
If you see this, who were they? I couldn't find their names. Just getting back into watching live SC2 events.
@@mayonnaiseeee ZombieGrub and PiG
@@Lexus2ff Thanks! Appreciate that. I think I remember both from back in the day.
11:34 After the first game you can see Maru's shaking hand while taking a drink, he looks shook up
🤔
Watching both his hands neither shaking as he's drinking - are you ok over there?
it looks like he's overloaded on adrenaline
Man, as a Maru BIG fan it hurts so hard to see my favourite player being absolutely destroyed again in finals again. And right now it's not about the Serral (i don't like him but gotta admit he is the best), it's about Maru choking so hard. Remember watching him like 5-6 years ago 😢
Pressure is the great equalizer and right now nobody pressures Maru like Serral.
Yeah. I'm a Serral fan and I don't generally like Maru, but I felt real empathy for him during Katowice and today. If anything, these 2 finals reminded me that Maru is mortal, like the rest of us, and that he's worked hella hard since a young age to be where he is. So at least it gave some of us a new perspective on him, and more appreciation for his achievements.
I like both of the player i just hate their fanbase
@@kathorsees even if he is mortal he isnt quite like the rest of us.
Maru may have been arguably the best in the world at one point but that peak has not been for at least 6 years.
Epic ownage by the GOAT.
Nah, just Serral punching his punching bag again.
Serral vs Maru is the most obvious result in the game's entire history.
Serral is closer to perfection in playing SC2 as anyone else before. about 6 years ago when he hasn't won a single tourney yet, I predicted that he is going to be the best non korean ever, but he has become the GOAT. unbelievable.
"Serral woke up and chose violence" - PiG
yo artosis, you mad bro?
I mean, if he's playing BW at the moment, it's safe to assume he's fuming with rage. poor guy, I still can't understand how someone can be suh a chill, nice person while casting and such an unrelenting screeching douchebag while playing.
exactly the comment I was looking for
I am mad.
Artosis is mad? no, because Serral haven't beat Maru in GSL.
@@阿倉-o2yif that eventually happens there would be no more excuses for being mad.
Serral is unreal.
"the undisputed greatest of all time, you choose one or the other" damn Zombiegrub really doing artosis like that haha, she's right though
I seriously spent like 10 minutes trying to figure out where the rest of the BO7 was. Like was this the first game? Is there a second part? Gave up and watched Serral snap Maru like a fucking twig in an amount of time I didn't think was possible. Serral is the GOAT. There is no doubt.
**SPOILER ALERT**
Serral made beating Maru look so remarkably simple, it almost made me think I could do it too.
I know I can't even come close to it but, the clinic Serral just put on made it look so easy.
It looks like Maru loses like 1k elo when playing serral
spoiler comment and a copied comment as well? Holy shishkebab.
@@miniwaern What are you even talking about? I put a spoiler alert in all caps and bold. Sharing a similar thought as other people isn't copying either. You're weird dude.
Maru is such a great player that has no answer to Serral and arrives already defeated. He'll need to do what Serral did when Reynor started beating him, to change his playstyle, his basis changed, which is a very zerg thing to do if you think about it. It was bad at first, then it was good, really good.
Serral haters are butt hurt as usual.
The GOAT dominates...but they'll never ever want to admit that.
Must be terrible.
always making excuses about how zerg is OP. Them haters can hate all they want. Serral's record is absolutely ridiculous.
Making excuses about not having played and won gsl etc etc. as if gsl is the end all be all of sc2 peak
4:0 in 45 minutes what a shame
That's what you get when you nerf Terran arbitrarily for no reason and keep Zerg broken for no reason good job blizzard
@@HenriqueRJchikisaying Zerg op lmao 🤣 after the last balance patch every caster literally agreed terran is by far the strongest race with Protoss in second and Zerg last.. stop thinking Zerg is broken, Serral is just the outlier.. they hard nerfed banelings they hard nerfed infestors. And they buffed dropper overlord speed which still isn’t even used lmao 🤣
@@mikeiscoo2 Don't make excuses. If Zerg was broken, then the top players in the world would naturally be Zerg players.
@@gabriel.hongkong that’s some stupid bullshit cope take.. that’s simply not true because to master a race takes years of practice
@@mikeiscoo2 nice cope literally lying LMAO
Serral shows what real swarm is. When you see it movies serral do it in game :)
No Doubt Maru is the strongest Terran and feared by most players specially at KR. but Serral is the GOAT.
Grand finals should have been olivera vs serral
totally
You can complain to the organizers about that. Keep crying. Serral is better than maru but maru still stomps oliveira.
@@victorlu2313 Serral: bro , 4:0 vs 3:2 , you are so right about the final, makes my life so much easier
@@derrychen6923 totally while Maru never survive 10 min+ each game what a loser
@@victorlu2313stomps, you mean like IEM katowice 2023 final?😢
happy to see PiG in the casting booth. He has the best game knowledge of all casters.
PiG is such biased towards Maru... envy and hates Serral and his achievements, although he's playing 'I'm your friend card...
@@florin.lupascu i have no idea what you base that on... I have seen nothing of any of that.
@@waggerdagger2831 historical observation years long
@@florin.lupascu Completely baseless and defamatory claims. I have been watching pro SC2 since it's inception and I have not seen PiG of all people act in a way that could possibly make anyone believe he was jealous of Serral and hated him. I've even heard PiG say extremely praising things about Serral, you're just reaching and it's honestly gross.
I agree - i have followed pig for some time; never have i seen anything of the sort.
You can compare the match between Oliveira and Serral. At the 8:30 mark, Oli's 160 supply "full-force punch" (with at least 3 tanks and infantry units) is already halfway across the map and on the way to the Zerg's base. However, Maru often only has around 130 supply at the 8:30 mark, applying much less pressure on Serral in the early game. Perhaps his shoulder injury prevents him from executing high-intensity pressure on the Zerg in the early stages.
If these are the GOATS (and they are), then it's pretty fucked up for a GOAT to know he is basically nothing compared to the other GOAT. Second final in a year's time where he does not get 1 map win in. I think Maru should be happy Serral never joines GSL properly, or those 8 GSL wins, and maybe even more, would be somewhere else....
Too bad we'll never know if Serral is truly the Goat as he's apparently deathly afraid of Korea
goats get goat tldr, baah
There’s no sport out there that has had such a dominant career like Serral. Goat
Yankees in the 20's / 30's; Celtics in the 60's; Ted Williams in the 40's and 50's; Tiger Woods from 1997 to 2008; Tom Brady
Tom Brady Vs his Son's lips
Super smash bros 4 (though not fondly remembered) - Zero went on like a 60 tournament winning streak.
Look up Hakuho in regards to Sumo. Respect to Serral but his win streaks and tournament wins are like an ant in comparison. Undeniable greatness in the esports realm though.
I don't think is fair or even necessary to compare players of different sports. Serral is great and undeniably the goat of SC2, but many sports have had very dominating figures. E.g., Alexander Karelin in wrestling. Happy has dominated WC3 for the last few years. Rapha is probably the god of Quake - he has won 16 major tournaments and countless others ever since 2008. His one-sided dominance might be one of the reasons arena shooters aren't as popular in esports as other shooters - he just makes it too one-sided, lol.
MARU is a Legendary Monster BUT
SERRAL almost doesn't make mistakes is just a GOD of SC2 only unlimited AI can beat him
Pig was so good on the commentary, he is on the ball and really knows how to say what`s going on and cast
Yes in contrast to Zombiegrub the shouting feminist
@@miniwaern What makes you think she's a feminist?
I'm sorry, I just HAVE to add this:
This is Serral WHILE IN MILITARY SERVICE! He spends most of his days learning how to fight in a real war, not playing SC2.
Sure, he probably has access to a computer to keep his skill on point, but believe me - you don't have the energy to do it while in military service. And he's finnish, they have a record of having some of the hardest military service out there.
People who watch this and whine about balance just remember - The PLAYERS themselves don't. Maru doesn't think Zerg is OP. He's just frustrated when he faces Serral because he's just THAT good.
Serral joined in s special military troop that is specialized for athlet. That's why he has a lots of time to practice sc2. but that is still unreal for him to maintain his God mode in military service.
If you see purple goo along the Finnish border... Run.
We've got a special unit for people who need to train their sport while serving. Still, army is his full time dayjob for now, even if there is support for his SC2 career.
@@paloman95 My point exactly. And after a dayjob like the freaking military, you dont have the energy to play at this level.
@@Cilroc if Serral's God mode remains, he will win all the tournaments championship afterwards. only Finland army can break Serral's God mode.
1. Serral is in the title
2. Its a Bo-7 and the match is only 45 mins long.
Yeah...we know what happens. I look forward to the incoming carnage😇
Very impressive, he knows T endgame is OP so he didnt let it get that far.
It's is an wise answer about the worst question..........
Whoa what did I just watch?! Maru got swept away so hard man. I know Serral is one of the top players, but I don't think I've seen him play this well before.
Didnt see that coming after Maru beat Dark so easily. Serral is just to strong
Such awesome play! Cant wait for world cup.
I think Serral had trainings that were harder than this match. I think we can all agree who is the best of all times.
Every game vs Serral, Maru makes simple mistakes like forgetting upgrades or leaving depot open for run bys. Then people cry about Imba imba imba
If forgetting depot open = gg maybe the imba is correct.
He gets weirdly nervous when he plays Serral, like he knows the ass-beating that is coming his way. You don't see him making these mistakes vs Dark or Shin.
if you're a pro player you should probably know to put your Depot back up.
@@RealFableFox If Serral forgot to inject and died, would you say imba? If Serral forgot to get detection, would you cry imba? If Serral forgot to scout? Would your salty tears cry imba? If Maru forgets the very easy task of blocking his enemy from coming easily into his base, that is not a question of balance.
zerglings are cheap early unit. But it was fast and powerful enough even in early game terran has to play "the floor is lava". do you have any idea how many matches I saw if terran send their units out in early game without medivac, artosis would cast "those units are so dead" and he usually right. zergling speed and damages and also baneling ( so intsead of just one bane, player need to use two do destroy svc now?) not to mention health left make the easy picking for zerglings.
let me give another example: if terran disable colossus, in order to destroy it terran unit have to go in and fight other units stand shoulder to shoulder with to colossus.
abducts on the other hands takes a unit and throw them to your army group.
Anyway I'm going to say this (and this isn't even my word - but from someone who is knowledgeable in the game): SC1 - as imbalance as it might be - the controls limit it. SC2, now the imbalances (not only in stat, but by design) multiplies.
Artosis own word in one of his videos are ( taking about bane patch) zerg is a race that attack moves and win. Now it still attack move and win, just with baneling has less hp.
Spoiler Shield! 🛡️ Upvote this to keep the results from being spoiled
I love you so much, Serral!
Amazin series! I enjoyed the video thoroughly. Thank you!
Isn't Serral currently in Military service?
He is. But differently from Korea, in Finland you are allowed to participate in tournaments and practice etc (if certain requirements are met).
@@KoozjeTo elaborate, Serral was put into a special program specifically for international sports competitors within Finland allowing them to still compete in international events. And Serral is the first esports player in Finland to be accepted into this program.
Sergeant, take my beer
Neural parasite on his Sargent.
@@displacedicon7643 damn.
Serral is definitely making history and a trail blazer.
God damn he is good as hell man
"Easiest money of my life"
-Serral
Did Serral just do a 1,1 roach push vs Maru? I thought that strat stops working at diamond
A strat executed by a pro hits way faster and harder than a plat player doing a similar build. And no, roach timings work at high level, especially roach/ravager. A 1/1 roach trades well against similar level marines and the ravagers can snipe tanks.
@@hunteriv4869 it really doesn't matter what the play is as long as it's effective for the current situation. Serral scouting is top stuff. I can't count how many times Clem has dismantled zerg players with a hand full of marines that were in the right place at the right time with the zerg players being clueless. Serral is just on another level on all fundamentals of the game: scouting, defense, attacking, economy, micro, macro. You're not going to get lucky often, you won't surprise him and you can't turtle against him. I'm so glad we have him because the alternative is a player like Maru can just turtle and win grand finals which is extremely frustrating to watch.
Well, Maru can be considered a Diamond player when he is against the GOAT. The difference is skill is just that vast as shown once again in a major grand final.
My favorite Zerg player and my 2 favorite SC2 casters....what more can you ask for?!?
ZombieGrub is your fav caster? o_Ò
I don't like ZombieGrub.
@@miniwaern Is Zombie still a virgin?
Maru is one of the goat but the fact that Serral completely dominated him goes to show that Serral is THE GOAT
The goat of abusing broken race you mean? LMAO
The beast is back.
Maru is a great player. There's a reason he keeps making it to the finals. His style is just a very bad matchup against GOAT Serral.
balance patch idea: make serral play terran and buff zerg. nothing would change on the competitive level but ladder would be alot better.
Love seeing serral dominate the worlds best terran with my opening over 3 games and every time he plays it.
Congrats Serral! Well played.
People in the comments thinking Serral would dominate in GSL. GSL is completely different. Serral knows he can't afford to play all those online tournaments and he never plays them. The reason he dominates is because he plays zerg (the race that can afford to play the same mapped out game 1000 times in a row and win), and because he only gets to play people like Maru twice a year. Oliveira is on the same team as Serral, so he gets to play him more, and we saw their series was equal. No, Serral can't dominate in GSL the same way he dominates these one-offs. Maru can. That's a completely different level of achievement.
You Terran mains always cry and cope in the comments. Serral's 75% win rate against Maru is no coincidence neither are his accomplishments vs any player. He is literally the best statistical player of all time and it is not even close. Reason why he doesn't join GSL is because he has to spend a lot of time in Korea and it doesn't fit his lifestyle since he likes talking walks and playing golf and whatever farm boys do in their free time. Every single Korean he has faced has always had the time to prepare against Serral yet they always have a losing win rate against him. There is no excuse I do not care. Sure GSL is different but I have yet to see a single Koreans dominate the game like Serral has for 6 years now. He wins almost everything he participates in and is always the favorite to win by a wide margin. Look at his rating and he is literally leagues above any Zerg. He has 3999 against Protoss, 4000+ against Terran and 3600 against Zerg. The people below him statistically are Maru, Maxpax, Clem and Dark in that order, yet they are still far below Serral. Serral is a league of its own. No Zerg is as good as him. Dark is 5th right now and is also way below Maru and Clem who are both Terrans. Terrans always cry they have been doing so since the beginning of the game.
@@2nerC9 that's because you don't understand how terrans and zergs came to be. No doubt Serral is the best zerg player, but you can't compare what he has to do to win with what terrans need to do to win. Terran was designed in the same fashion any RTS games of the time were designed; you have a natural production cycle roughly reflecting how human production works in real life. Then the designers sat down and started inventing insane spells and mechanics for the other two races. That's why basic rules of RTS don't always apply to zerg or protoss, with zerg being able to go to 80 drones in 3 minutes, etc. Terran is predictable, with slow linear ramp-up of production and economy and limited opportunities for suprise. Zerg can throw down a fake third and go build 100 roaches that you can't do anything against unless you scout it immediately and do the exact right thing. All Serral has to do is play the same game he practiced 10000 times perfectly, and he wins. No terran can ever just play standard, they need to come up with new inventive and unique builds every tournament, and not show them until the finals. It is not a level playing field in the slightest, and you can't compare Serral's domination with any terran simply because domination like that is not possible with terran no matter how much better you are than everyone else.
@@alk672so much copium 😂 if T is "harder" to play, why don't T players switch to a different race and earn the easy money? moreover, why was the last world championship finals a TvT (Oliveira vs Maru)? why does this year's world championship (EWC) have 9 Terrans, 5 Zergs and 4 Protoss? repeat: there are as many Terrans qualified in the tournamemt as Z and P _combined_. can you explain that?
La domination est Total !!! 😮 Est le pire c'est que Serral est en service militaire ! Et qu'il ne peut pas s'entraîner comme il se doit ❤❤❤
The second 4:0 for Maru against Serral. This must be very frustrating. Serral is just unreal...
Serral like a monsterssssss
Well Serral seems to life in Marus head, rentfree ^^
He does this to Maru just as Maru does this to Shin 😂
This is the scenario where you can type "gg ez"
Hmmm. Sub 50 minuteBo7…so probably a sweep?
I’m excited to finally see some domination from Maru!
Maru seems to be a different player when playing against Serral. He didn't show any sign of preparation and lost easily to a normal Zerg push...
Tbf zergling infestor ultra executed on "ghost river" isn't a normal zerg push at all
I think its more likely that he's choking, now I don't think he should win if he was in peak form but he has a surprisingly long record of losing finals even in Gsl it took him quite a few tries to get his G5L and even his pretty one sided loss to Olivera in the prior Katowice, it just seems like he just flops in finals.
@@Mglunafh Maru was pretty dead after the mid-game Raven/Roach pushes; anything after that is just a nail in the coffin. I was surprised to see Maru this less active. He was totally different from Dark, and Serral was playing the same style (Raven/Roach) all the way, but Maru didn't have any counter measurements...He could have learnt from Olivera match and prepared but he didn't...
@@nghiepho7055 Maru has noone to practice vs Serral cause noone plays on his level.
This is why Serral doesn't need to play in GSL. And all these Maru fan boys come at me and say ohhhh it's different blah blah. 😅
The formats are different. It really depends what you prefer, GSL allows more prep imo. It’s like comparing speed chess to 10 minute games.
When you have a week or more to prepare for a specific opponent and their specific style, strengths/weaknesses that absolutely makes the tournament a different type of tournament. If you don’t get that it’s fine, you don’t have to get it. But not playing in GSL certainly doesn’t take away from the fact that Serral is the best in the world and has been for a while.
@Bananaman-jm4xl dude, it's fair and square. It's not like Serral had the time to study maru either and same can be said for maru. If I get into a street scrap with you more than once without knowing you at all but I win them all then that would make me a better fighter. Format being different is excuses excuses and some more excuses. If Maru is the better player, he would have won wether its ESL, IEM or GSL format.
Your boy serral won and you're still yapping? Congrats to serral. He's obviously better. Too bad his fan still feels the need to defend him. Yap yap yap yap yap.
@victorlu2313 Maru fan boys yap more though. Let me give you some tissue to wipe your tears
I wish the gameplay was proper HD
4:12 i think the marauder was a response to a roach push that maru thought was coming based on the fact that serral didn't have ling speed
Is SC2 popular again? I remeber wcs with less audiance. Amazing!
Amo y señor de starcraft 2, el mejor jugador de la historia
This is not even a close game....what happened? Olivera did a closer match than Maru.
(23:05) Watch closely how an Ultralisk surrounded for three seconds by ~17 SCV's gets three SCV kills. Four chops kills three out of 17 SCV's. Zerg so op.
the gap between the two best players is insane
US Air Force awesome placement. Almost like Enders Game
we are blessed to have the two best players to be z and t ZVT🍀
Serral is incredible good, but Maru wasn't playing as he was some years ago. He in fact tried to win with the same strategy 4 times in row with just small to no changes. So there was no need for serral to change something either. Olivera was by far more creative and way less predictable.
Would like to see Serral compete in GSL
31:36 not enough owning Maru, he also has to own the casters :D
thats the observers mouse pointer
Why does that stupid question still exist?
the rematch, but the score is not reset to 0-4."
It's funny to think that to finish the debate once and for all about who is the GOAT of Starcraft2, Serral would have to go to korean territory and win the GSL... That would be the greatest achievments in gaming history: Beating the first nation who made gaming a possible substainable job, on the game that made it all possible. Just imagine...
Serral already won gsl twice against the world, it is not the same but he beat all the Koreans in an epic final with stats and in that same year he won blizcon again against stats
He doesn't need to win GSL to be the goat. It's a silly idea, tbh. The debate is over. Serral has a winning score against every player in the GSL. All the players from the GSL come to international tournaments and lose to Serral. Maru, the best GSL has to offer, has been 4-0'd again and again by Serral. Saying GSL has any significance for the GOAT debate when the GOAT has been consistently beating GSL players for 8 years now is comical and absurd. It's the skill, the players and the matches between them that count in SC2, not the organizing company, the country, or the name of the tournament.
Just waiting till everyone cries to nerf Zerg in 3...2....1....
Even a direct nerf to serral like military service doesn't do shit. He's still the GOAT. Maru is doodoo. GSL players should know by now that they have to prepare for Serral by default because they will eventually face him.
The new nerfs are destroying the zerg slowly
Decreased hp of banes
Decreased hydra stats
Queen no longer flies
Attack damage of mutas reduced
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The list goes on
45 minutes... this is just game 1 right? Right?
Please STOP spoilers in the title!
dude it just says serral vs maru .... ohh wait
How come the greatest of all time Starcraft 2 player is not a South Korean? It baffles the mind.
The best Zerg vs the best Terran. The races are so different that saying there is only 1 GOAT doesnt make sense. Zerg when mastered is an unstoppable race. Terran or Protoss are in a lower tier.
Done with Maru. I will wait for Rogue to be back in shape so he can go head-to-head against Serral.
The problem is Rogue actually faired barely any better. Closer series but similar results...
Rogue has never beaten Serral on lan. Similar to Maru who hasn't beaten Serral on lan since WESG 2017.
There are only two people in this world that can beat Serral, Oliveira and Stats (latter still needs more time to recover to prime)