Chainsaw Cuts Crooked Curved Cuts. Bar Dressing and repair. Before and After.

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  • Опубліковано 4 лют 2023
  • Crooked cuts are caused by issues with the bar and/or chain. Bar quality can make a big difference in cut quality and speed. This video shows how to inspect your bar and bring it back to factory cut quality.
    0:00 Intro
    0:01 Test cuts
    2:23 Bar and Chain ID
    4:30 Bar Inspection
    6:29 Bar Dressing Options
    6:52 Belt Sander Method
    9:14 After Inspection
    11:19 Test Cuts
    13:53 Cut Review
    14:34 Repair and Dressing Review
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  • @billbezzant3033
    @billbezzant3033 4 місяці тому +13

    One of the best videos I've seen for dressing a bad bar. Thank you!

  • @randycooper2731
    @randycooper2731 4 місяці тому +5

    Great video. Short, sweet, to the point. No goody music or endless yacking. Helpful info, thanks.

  • @lindsaythomas2283
    @lindsaythomas2283 Рік тому +9

    I've had those problems many times in the past. Used same fixes as you did. I discovered (the hard way) that this problem vanishes when the chain is kept tight, and you use a quality chain oil. Great video,...cheers from N.E. Ohio.

  • @tectalabyss
    @tectalabyss 6 місяців тому +2

    My Dad was a timber cutter from the 40's through the early 80's. He could make a chain and bar last a long time, Thank you for the how to. All my best.

  • @kevingraham8940
    @kevingraham8940 3 місяці тому +2

    You are a clear and concise speaker.
    Good information and very well presented.

  • @EvilMonkey8366
    @EvilMonkey8366 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you! I don't have experience fixing chain saws and am probably one of the people that hasn't flipped my bar around, or did it once but didn't fully understand why. Your explanation was clear and very helpful!

  • @robinburkey2466
    @robinburkey2466 Рік тому +1

    Thankyou for posting. After 45 years with a saw I learned something very valuable.

  • @OhmSteader
    @OhmSteader 4 місяці тому +1

    I always just went around to the other side of the log and finished the cut. Or sometimes we need a circular cut... I have this issue right after hitting a rock. 30 years ago it was just bad maintenance and very frustrating trying to fix it. Years have taught me. Thanks for the guidance and teaching.

  • @Robin-bk2lm
    @Robin-bk2lm 2 місяці тому +1

    Had this problem bad this morning. First use after winter. I remember struggling to cut before i out it away.
    Switched chains and it now works perfectly so it isn't the bar - just my sharpening technique.

  • @richholub3198
    @richholub3198 Рік тому +10

    Thanks for this. I mostly figured it out for myself (with just a file), but your clear illustration and instruction really make it plain. And I never heard of a bar dressing tool, much less to keep up on bar maintenance like you do a chain. Well done.

    • @dennisketterer814
      @dennisketterer814 5 місяців тому

      I WAS CUTTING UP SOME FIREWOOD AND I HAPPENED TO NOTICE IT WAS CUTTING UNEVEN. 😅I REMOVED THE BURRS ON EACH SIDE OF THE BAR PUT THE CHAIN BACK ON AND STILL HAD THE SAME RESULTS. I TOOK IT TO A BE REALIGNED .THE MAN SAID THE BAR WAS DONE WITH FOR. I BOUGHT A NEW ONE TOOK IT HOME AND INSTALLED IT ON THE UNIT. FIRED IT UP AND STARTED CUTTING ONCE AGAIN AND IT WAS CUTTING PERFECT. SO.DONT BE WHAT IS CALLED TRYING TO MAKE IT CUT TO QUICK.

  • @victorbunch7725
    @victorbunch7725 6 місяців тому

    Some of the best chain saw info that i have seen yet! Thanx Gorge,

  • @brian8410
    @brian8410 Рік тому +4

    Finally, someone who knows something about bars and chains. +1000 thumbs up!!

  • @johnnysmythe7767
    @johnnysmythe7767 Рік тому +9

    Great vid, you could build a platform with locking casters for your sander so you don’t have to crouch. Thanks for sharing all the great info. 👍👍

  • @something3441
    @something3441 Рік тому +3

    Wow, I actually have this problem. Had no idea where to start. Thanks for the video.

  • @milo9422
    @milo9422 Рік тому +1

    Nice work showing how to manage a chain saw bar!

  • @williamhodgden8970
    @williamhodgden8970 5 місяців тому +3

    As a second generation logger you did a really good job explaining and showing things. The bar is overlooked to often.

  • @andrewstafford-jones4291
    @andrewstafford-jones4291 Рік тому +7

    After you correct the bar surface you need to check there is sufficient depth still available for the chain to seat properly.
    Great video.

    • @gorgeoutdoors
      @gorgeoutdoors  Рік тому +2

      Yes, absolutely. That needs to be pointed out, I forgot to do that. One can file down too far over time and the chain will no longer seat or fit the entire drive link in the valley. That will induce a curve cut syndrome.

  • @brianruane8505
    @brianruane8505 5 місяців тому

    Absolutely excellent explanation and demonstration..!!! This was never explained to me when I trained many years ago...!!!

  • @fp3359
    @fp3359 5 місяців тому

    WoW.
    I'm really impressed by your craftmanship !
    Did not know this phenomenon of curved cuts causef by an uneven baredge...
    Many thanks & season greetings 🎄 from 🇳🇱

  • @davidfitzgerald4367
    @davidfitzgerald4367 Рік тому +6

    Very good discussion/information. Thank you. Never noticed this as an issue with my smaller saws (under 18") but got A stihl MS660 with 32" bar a few years ago and am buggered if it will cut straight in big timber. Relpaced chain a few times without much effect. Will need to investigate the bar for sure now. Many thanks

  • @allenhess6583
    @allenhess6583 Рік тому +1

    Great explanation and demonstration. I’m going to check my bar and do some maintenance. Thanks for sharing. Greetings from Maine.

  • @donaldmatthies6026
    @donaldmatthies6026 Рік тому +8

    Nice straight forward video explanation. Thank you for taking time to film, edit and post this video.

  • @cva326
    @cva326 Рік тому +2

    The San Fransisco chainsaw haha, love it

  • @hosocat1410
    @hosocat1410 6 місяців тому

    That little plastic Oregon gauge is a work of art. Amazing.

  • @geradkavanagh8240
    @geradkavanagh8240 Рік тому +2

    Brilliant explanation. Used to do tree lopping and removal. My employees could never understand why the saws were jamming when they hadn't been flipping the bars and checking the chain guides. Spent so much time doing all that filing by hand. Didn't have the belt sander or hones available easily back then. Only thing I didn't see you do is lightly file the bar edge to remove any burrs from the honing. (perhaps your hone has an extra side hone to do that.)

  • @ericwiltz6584
    @ericwiltz6584 4 місяці тому

    Very nice and informative to those that wish to undertake bar dressing. It's fun doing your own maintenance, Proper maintenance makes efficiency!
    Happy holiday!

  • @FontedaPipaPortugueseFarmLife

    good info, i have an almost new Oregon bar and chain that is doing this, i made sure left and right cutting teeth were same length but still cuts off,,, i have watched many 'fancy' channels for an answer and never really got one. i will now go check what you just taught me. Thanks!!

  • @metheewatchakittikorn4796
    @metheewatchakittikorn4796 9 місяців тому

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @dehash666
    @dehash666 Рік тому

    Thank you. I was looking for this video for long time, but it didn't exist.

  • @LDBoone
    @LDBoone Рік тому +19

    Great video and guided info. Thanks. Been sawing wood and my own timber for many years. Never stop learning

  • @dougreid2351
    @dougreid2351 Рік тому +1

    Terrific practical perspective on bar repair.
    How did I miss your channel until now?
    Subscribed!
    DOUG out

    • @gorgeoutdoors
      @gorgeoutdoors  Рік тому

      Thanks Doug. I'm new on here. Not very popular yet, still kind of a ...

  • @comingtofull-ageinchrist6736
    @comingtofull-ageinchrist6736 Рік тому +2

    I could definitely hear the difference on the 24". Great video! I have the Stihl 261C and it came with the 18" 0.063/.325" bar and chain and last fall I upgraded to the 20" 0.63/3/8" bar and chain. big difference it cutting. Happy I upgraded the bar and chain. Thanks for the knowledge!

  • @John-gm8ty
    @John-gm8ty Рік тому +1

    excellent demonstration, thankyou.

  • @user-wr2ir1iy5r
    @user-wr2ir1iy5r 3 місяці тому

    I really enjoyed the video. It chimes with what I figured out myself using a belt sander clamped to my workbench. And a set square. Time to get a bar dresser though… Thanks from Portugal

  • @feelingold2995
    @feelingold2995 Рік тому +5

    Thanks for the great info.. Ive heard of dressing the bar but never looked into it.. Ive got a few bars that can cut the moonholes in an outhouse.. Good stuff brother..👍👍

  • @stuartkorte1642
    @stuartkorte1642 Рік тому +1

    Glad I found this. My 029 as similar issues. Tomorrow morning I’ll be doing a bar inspection and verify I have the correct chain. Thanks!

  • @patmiddleton3947
    @patmiddleton3947 Рік тому

    Great!Lots of detailed information.Thanks!

  • @bobkelly2447
    @bobkelly2447 Рік тому +1

    your the only one I've seen to address "the bar" I had to learn this on my own decades ago
    because I had saws that cut real good archs..... I did it with hand files and it cured the problem

    • @gorgeoutdoors
      @gorgeoutdoors  Рік тому

      Emphasis on the bar, and the bar only. Thanks for the comment.

  • @richardthorpe8889
    @richardthorpe8889 Рік тому

    Really great video I’ve never seen this procedure before or the tools you used during the fix.

  • @flyingfisherman100
    @flyingfisherman100 Рік тому

    Thanks. Great info. You are a legend to us cheap S.O.B's.

  • @julianalderson3938
    @julianalderson3938 Рік тому +1

    Good vid. Old boss 66 used to cut sideways all over the place really. Made sure chain was good raker gauge. Was the bar. Chain was just leanin everywhere. Was bar wasenent bent. But the grove was so worn chain sloppin around. Thanx good vid. New bar we were kickin arse.

  • @dave1455
    @dave1455 5 місяців тому

    Learnt something new today. Thanks for that .

  • @Jackofalltrdes
    @Jackofalltrdes 5 місяців тому

    Amazing video, I don't have much experience with a chainsaw, but it's great to know for when I'm at the hunt camp.

  • @Andrew_From_NB
    @Andrew_From_NB 4 місяці тому

    Really great video! Thanks for sharing this! 🔥💯👍

  • @markbutler154
    @markbutler154 5 місяців тому

    excellent video. Bars are often an issue that is over looked.

  • @johnvolz6051
    @johnvolz6051 3 місяці тому

    Great presentation.

  • @steveberthiaume5661
    @steveberthiaume5661 Місяць тому

    New to chainsaws. Thank you!

  • @mjolnir3309
    @mjolnir3309 4 місяці тому

    Thanks! I wasn't sure what was happening. I figured I was causing the curve but couldn't cut straight no matter how I tried. I'll have to give this a shot

  • @richardcich2018
    @richardcich2018 Рік тому

    Very good explains a problem with one of the saws....never thought about the bar, just chain,

  • @andykindberg8422
    @andykindberg8422 Рік тому

    Thank you for that video!! Very helpful 👍👍

  • @themadmailler
    @themadmailler 5 місяців тому

    Great video! I've had similar issues after nicking a few teeth on a rock. What I found that works (don't know why, but it does) is sharpening the chain, and then doing an extra pass on the teeth that are on the side that the saw's cut curves toward. Curve left, double sharpen left side cutters.

  • @frontyardfirewood
    @frontyardfirewood 5 місяців тому

    Never seen a bar dresser tool, always used a flat file. Thanks for this video

  • @bendaid8119
    @bendaid8119 5 місяців тому

    That's a great lesson, thank you.

  • @ViloAfi
    @ViloAfi Рік тому

    Thanks this was well presented and concise

  • @CSMtheMariner
    @CSMtheMariner Рік тому

    Thank you for helping me with this problem- I was totally mystified.

  • @bkb5668
    @bkb5668 Рік тому

    Most all of this can be visually inspected and fixed by hand easily in the field once you know what your doing. Thanks for the video.

  • @travisdoesfirewood
    @travisdoesfirewood 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for this information!

  • @jonathanryals9934
    @jonathanryals9934 Рік тому +3

    There is something to be said for letting the tool do the work but you have to pay attention with chainsaw regardless. I cut slabs freehand and the bar can do a lot of the aligning work for you. Don't forget the perpendicular line on the side of the saw, that is pretty useful as well.

  • @MikeDPlxztc
    @MikeDPlxztc Рік тому

    Excellent video. Thanks

  • @tndeere2
    @tndeere2 3 місяці тому

    Thanks. Great info.

  • @80srockerable
    @80srockerable Рік тому +1

    The geese approve! I never knew why mine cut crooked. I assumed I didn't sharpen evenly.

  • @truckdrivinmilanr
    @truckdrivinmilanr 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for sharing your expertise. Knowledge not shown in the owners manuals.

  • @meradu2
    @meradu2 4 місяці тому

    I definitely got something from this guy
    Thank you for sharing 👍

  • @martinfernandez5005
    @martinfernandez5005 Рік тому

    Thank you for your knowledge 👍

  • @marekwieckowski7038
    @marekwieckowski7038 Рік тому

    Excellent video Sir.

  • @Rolog21
    @Rolog21 6 місяців тому

    Fantastic.
    Thank you!

  • @RangerRage69
    @RangerRage69 Рік тому

    Well done video!

  • @digger0429
    @digger0429 5 місяців тому

    Very good video thank you for sharing

  • @joshbola2362
    @joshbola2362 10 місяців тому

    very helpful videos..thank you so much

  • @Bojangles6
    @Bojangles6 Рік тому +3

    I've definitely been fighting this problem for awhile. I've never heard of dressing a bar til now, but it makes perfect sense.

    • @Yettiattack
      @Yettiattack Рік тому

      You do not need to dress your bar.
      They do create burs an flatten out but any person that runs a saw long enough knows this maintenance is literally no necessary. Try to run the bar evenly flipping it over on each time you change out a chain.

    • @Bojangles6
      @Bojangles6 Рік тому

      @Daniel Nelson I flip my bar all the time, it's still worn in deep and uneven. Why does it cut crooked when the bar is straight and it has a new chain? I run an ms440 and 20" stihl bars.

    • @Yettiattack
      @Yettiattack Рік тому

      @@Bojangles6 you are probably torquing the saw. An the deep wear is 2 reasons one either too lose of a chain which is very unlikely for any home owner. An the second it is way too tight.

    • @Yettiattack
      @Yettiattack Рік тому +1

      @@Bojangles6 if it’s blatantly worn perhaps consider a new one. Ive ran them with big dishes an there is just no reason to. Bars are cheap for how much life they give out.

    • @Bojangles6
      @Bojangles6 Рік тому

      @Daniel Nelson yeah im thinking I pry been running my last bar or 2 longer than necessary.

  • @kencollie8429
    @kencollie8429 3 місяці тому

    great info, thanks!

  • @jayojoe
    @jayojoe 2 місяці тому

    You are a Pro! Evan more than that! Respekt!

  • @yogibeer9319
    @yogibeer9319 Рік тому +1

    Best video I’ve seen on this! Helps me tremendously. Mine was cuttin crookeder than a dogs hind leg. Low tide at Harbor Freight! Lol

  • @luemn7691
    @luemn7691 Рік тому

    Great video thanks for sharing👍✌️

  • @Bernardory
    @Bernardory Рік тому

    Great information!

  • @MrJones-uq5cg
    @MrJones-uq5cg Рік тому

    Thanks for the video.

  • @ericoverdorff8880
    @ericoverdorff8880 Рік тому +2

    I like how you drop the bar and chain into the ground on your test cuts.

    • @gorgeoutdoors
      @gorgeoutdoors  Рік тому +2

      So I can make a chain grinder video on sharping next week.

    • @ericoverdorff8880
      @ericoverdorff8880 Рік тому

      @@gorgeoutdoors of course. I should have realized that.
      Silly me.

  • @JohnnyRFarmer
    @JohnnyRFarmer Рік тому

    Great video!

  • @briansnik1848
    @briansnik1848 Рік тому

    This helped me bro.. i got a lot of gear to take care of and this helps bigtime. Thank you

    • @gorgeoutdoors
      @gorgeoutdoors  Рік тому +1

      Anything that can grind, sand, or file AND stay square will help. Keep it moving and stay square. Results will be noticeable.

    • @briansnik1848
      @briansnik1848 Рік тому

      @@gorgeoutdoors i have a few 880 bars that are super sloppy... the groove is too big. So i look into buying a few new ones. Omg expensive. How much and where can i find that tool that you showed in your vid that squeezes the bar gap back closed? Its worth a try for me to try to fix it...

    • @briansnik1848
      @briansnik1848 Рік тому

      Found one 40$shipped from forester. Pretty sweet looking setup...I Need this!!! 47 inch 880 duramatic bar= 400ish$$at least. Worth a try to either fix mine or at least maintain tolerances on a new one.... we whoop saws asses in hardwood over here in Illinois!!💪

  • @MitzvosGolem1
    @MitzvosGolem1 4 місяці тому

    Also many people don't know there are oil ports in bar groove which get clogged .
    Must be cleaned with small wire .
    They get oil from larger holes by bar bolt adjustment area .

  • @johnsisk5914
    @johnsisk5914 Рік тому +1

    Very helpful. I have the same problem. Now I know how to fix the issue. Try to dress the bar first and then, maybe get a new bar. Thanks!

    • @gorgeoutdoors
      @gorgeoutdoors  Рік тому +1

      If your bar is in bad shape, you won't make much worse!!! Try dressing with anything if you just need the saw to get a job done.

  • @sourdoughbornsourdoughbred4712
    @sourdoughbornsourdoughbred4712 5 місяців тому

    Good info, thanks

  • @robertboyer1221
    @robertboyer1221 Рік тому

    Great video

  • @markyakubovsky3380
    @markyakubovsky3380 4 місяці тому

    Good stuff THX !! I have a Rookie question- What causes the paint to come off the bar like that? I have been running a Stihl ms250 no issues, but I bought an MS311 to cut down a big Mulberry tree and the paint has come off my bar. within about 6 tanks of fuel..

  • @osbornebay944
    @osbornebay944 Рік тому

    Very helpful tips. I will properly dress my 16", 20" 24" 30" and 32" bars....

  • @nickmadden3145
    @nickmadden3145 6 місяців тому

    Quick field fix if you get in a pinch. Find the flattest, hardest surface and carefully pound the bar while taking care not to hit the chain drive slot or roller tip. Using a sledgehammer top surface works great. This method has gotten me through on site bent bar problems many times.

  • @danielson101
    @danielson101 2 місяці тому

    nice job!

  • @theguyguy3528
    @theguyguy3528 10 місяців тому

    Top notch vid!

  • @em4703
    @em4703 5 місяців тому +2

    Its best to change the chain too after such a big bar dressing job. The link sides that touch the rails are most likely worn out unevenly too, so it might create problems/more uneven wear now that the bar si flush on both sides.

    • @lovesloudcars
      @lovesloudcars 4 місяці тому

      That's interesting. I'm going through the comments trying to identify what might be causing a problem with 1 chain. Always gives me grief and can't seem to figure out why. Either side wear or rakers

  • @mrtennessee6862
    @mrtennessee6862 Рік тому

    Great video bud

  • @rikabob
    @rikabob 2 місяці тому +1

    It won't be long before it cuts crooked again. One side of the guide will be thinner than the other and it will wear out more. When i was young i tried this too, and after a lot of time wasted i knew it is better to get a new bar.

  • @TonysCoolTools
    @TonysCoolTools Рік тому

    Awesome explanation 👍TCT

  • @ONEMANSTRASH1
    @ONEMANSTRASH1 5 місяців тому

    Thank you I did not know this.
    Is there a way to straighten a bar with a twist in it ?
    I am pretty good at wrecking them lol

  • @directtalk1
    @directtalk1 3 місяці тому

    Top video.

  • @Gfthce3426
    @Gfthce3426 Рік тому

    Right on , thanks.

  • @JasonVladimir
    @JasonVladimir Рік тому

    Great video! Nifty gauge ...need to get me one!

  • @wojciechcieslukowski1974
    @wojciechcieslukowski1974 3 місяці тому

    G'eat video. This film should be attached to user's manual when you buy any new chain saw. Thank You so much.

  • @skytrip5273
    @skytrip5273 29 днів тому +1

    Mine is cutting at ab45 degree angle😂😂 But I got it free. Just tried it when a huge branch blew down in the back yard.

  • @rogerstern2542
    @rogerstern2542 4 місяці тому

    I have brand new Stihl 32 bar and new in box 3/8 skip tooth chain on 461 cuts crazy crooked. All chain and bar combos cut great. Gotta investigate this

  • @rdmjone
    @rdmjone 3 місяці тому

    Thanks!