I had the entire history of the Super Duty name itself and previous trucks with that name as part of the video script, but I ended up omitting it during the video editing process because I felt like focusing on just the modern Super Duty truck would help with clarity. It might be confusing because the Super Duty name was previously related to a handful of engines they offered back in the day. The name also referred to trucks with those aforementioned engines in the F-Series, as well as some other truck variants Ford offered back then. And then the name was used on the F-Super Duty chassis cab truck. Because of all that, I felt it was best to focus on the "modern" Super Duty truck, rather than the full history of where and how the name was used by Ford.
Very well done video. Your quality and no nonsense presentation put you at the top of my list. Thanks for your time and commitment. Theo her the video the better! Cheers!
It was Navistar who made all 3 diesel 7.3, 6.0, and 6.4 for Ford but yea same thing pretty much. Stupid emissions killed the ol reliable 7.3L. 2003 is when the tide of emissions regulations started rolling in, with the EGR system being required that year
I'm 66 years old. I've owned trucks my entire life. I've had Chevy's , Ford's and a Toyota. My 2007 Ford F350 5.4L Super Duty utility truck is hands-down the best truck I have ever owned. I bought it new off the lot in 2006 for $38,000. It now has 184,600. The only thing I do different than what the manual says is I put Marvel Mystery oil in the oil and gas. I drive it hauling thousands of pounds of lumber, materials and equipment to Flagstaff from The Bay area a couple of times a year. It has never failed me or stranded me in the middle of no where. Once you replace the stupid 2-piece spark plugs this engine is bomb-proof. The Marvel is from an Aviator Hero of mine who had an amazing story with his aircraft engines. I'll leave it at that. If you use it in your engines they will last forever.
The excursion with the 7.3 is a beast and a great tow rig if you're pulling a airstream trailer, beautiful and spacious interior plus the super duty frame and suspension, much nicer for a family to vacation with instead of cramming the family and Fido into a pickup
Honestly the 6.7 Powerstroke is by a big margin the class leader regarding fuel economy. You can't really do much more with a 6.7L diesel V8 engine, and it's also pretty smooth too.
I had a 2009 Super Duty with the 6.8L V-10 which made 362 HP and 457 lbft of torque at 3200 rpm. It was paired with a 4.10 rear and was an outstanding platform for towing.
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I would like to pick a hole in the script. When Ford replaced the 5.4 with the 6.2, it was just the 5.4 that was replaced. The 6.8 remained all the way until 2020. It was a lesser used option, but it did remain. And the 6.2 is still an option today. The 7.3 replaced the 6.8 as an option, and the 6.8 is no longer used anywhere in Ford's current lineup.
I would venture to guess the public utility I work for has about 1500 Super Duty cab and cassis across the fleet with various assortments of builds. Some are manlifts, others are super structures, while others are simple companion trucks with bin boxes. The garage I am assigned to maintains about 30 different Super Duty configurations. Aside from the diesel engines you discussed in other videos, the trucks have held up really well. Although none of the gas engines have ever impressed our drivers. There aren't many gas engines in the fleet, but the few we have just don't hold a candle to the diesel equipped trucks. One of the coolest things Ford ever did was install upfitter switches in their trucks to make adding accessories much cleaner. We no longer have to find a place to cut holes in the instrument panel to add switches and run wiring; the switches and wiring are aready there. I believe three of the switches are 15 amp while the other two are 20 amp. It makes for a clean install of PTOs, beacons, and other things a user might need. Of all the things I could complain about, Ford made cabin filter replacement a complete pain in the a$$ on their trucks. Since the fleet I am assigned to is in the desert, cabin filters last about a month before needing replacement. With 30 of those in our local fleet it seems I am changing a filter at least once a day. Of course I could just leave out the filter, but the users really enjoy clean air in the cab.
@@dirtbikesanddiesels978 its not all that old as a 23 year old truck, but it does look and feel antiquated technology-wise compared to what 2022~2023 has to offer in terms of a 99 towing 10k vs a 2022 towing 25 to 35k lbs.
I had a 7.3 Powerstroke dually, and loved it. Wish I had been smart enough to keep it. If buying a used diesel it's better to get a 99 to early 03 model, or jump all the way to the 6.7 engine in 13. A bulletproofed 6.0 is a pretty good truck, but folks that undertook that cost seem to be hanging on to them. I can't blame them, a new one costs more than a lot of people paid for their house. Yikes!!!
Don't forget the Dana 80 rear axle which is what I have in my 2000 F350 DRW with 3.55's and lsd. It's the 4r100 then the 5r110 after 2003.5, 6r140 after 2011
Got a 99 4x4 7.3 and a 2000 4x2 7.3, i love them, i got more diesel trucks, but i love the 7.3 more, not only the engine, but the brakes, the interior, the macho suspension... Got a 2003 ram Cummins, i prefer the ford .. you can say the Cummins is a better engine, but ford is a better truck .
@@thesquad3885 -- the 7.3 was a great engine for it's day but that day is gone and the 6.7 has twice the power and torque and has actually been made for more years then the 7.3 was
@@kevinwatkins2762 , the 6.7 is , there's plenty of examples, if you pumped up the old 7.3 you could get into the power range of a 6.7 but not for long that's kinda my point the 6.7 deserves some respect, I just wish Ford would give us the option of a manual transmission
I’ve got an e99 7.3 with the zf-6. Pretty happy with it but would love to swap to 05+ axles and suspension. Should mention you could get the manual trans up to 2010 but they dropped it when they brought out the 6.7. The “original super duty” is the obs f450 they called it the superduty
My father had a 2010 single cab 5.4 with a standard trans it was awesome but I never liked the way it shifted it almost felt like it was hard to get into gear and the 5.4 had such poor low end power. Nevertheless it was a cool truck and he finally bought his first automatic super duty in 2019
The twin-traction beam was only on the F250 4x4s. All of the F350 4x4s were solid axles. The 10.5 vs 10.25 is a third pinion bearing(SRW only) all the duallys were Dana 80s.
Have 6.4 and I love it! Don't care what anyone says the truck is fully deleted and runs great. I don't treat it like a race truck and it's been super reliable, 160k+ and counting.
Maintenance is key! They aren’t that bad of a motor as what most make it seem. My 08 6.4 has 252k and it’s been stock it’s entire life. I just deleted it and I’m loving it. It’s a powerhouse and gets 21mpg on the freeway doing 75 no problem! Be sure to change your oil and I’d run a coolant filter on them for extra safety.
I currently own 2 7.3l 99 pickups. One is a service truck with a 6 speed manual transmission and the other truck is a old oil feild truck with 260k miles. Both trucks perform well under 10 tons. But the only truck that will still compete with the 7.3l is my old 91 f150 5.0l with a 4 speed f-250 style transmission. This old truck has shown that no matter what the engine is it will always show it true form under a heavy load. I basic pushed the old 91 f150 with 35k of 5th wheel and bumper pulling.
Thank you for making this video. My fav truck ever (looks) is the 10th gen f250 super duty. I couldn't find much info on it, thank you for making this vid.
UPDATE: The 2023 Super Duty has been refreshed once again. The body & interior were redesigned, and engine options have changed yet again. The 6.2L Boss V8 has been replaced with a 6.8L gas V8 which is essentially a smaller 7.3L gas engine, and there is a new high output option for the 6.7L Powerstroke which makes a whopping 500hp and 1,200ft-lb of torque.
Why not mention the F-Superduty square body’s? There’s several in my area, 460 gas, and 7.3 powered 5 speed manuals. The 460 was a legendary engine worth mentioning.
I had the entire history of the Super Duty name itself and previous trucks with that name as part of the video script, but I ended up omitting it during the video editing process because I felt like focusing on just the modern Super Duty truck would help with clarity. It might be confusing because the Super Duty name was previously related to a handful of engines they offered back in the day. The name also referred to trucks with those aforementioned engines in the F-Series, as well as some other truck variants Ford offered back then. And then the name was used on the F-Super Duty chassis cab truck. Because of all that, I felt it was best to focus on the "modern" Super Duty truck, rather than the full history of where and how the name was used by Ford.
I’m a 6.4 power stroke guy ,,I admit the 6.4 is definitely problematic,,when it’s stocked,,the new emission system on the 6.4 known as the DPF was a big mistake,,it was there first time they put a DPF on a diesel,,but when the 6.4 is deleted with small or any tunes they are very reliable with great TQ and hp ,,the 6.4 is very underrated,, all though the pistons on the 6.4 are made out of aluminum that’s one of the problems that can’t be fixed with the original pistons but the 6.4 can handle up to 1200hp and 1880TQ until the pistons crack ,,785hp is not enough hp to crack the pistons ,,all in all the 6.4 definitely deserves to be in the top 5 most reliable diesels.
@@superb334 I agree ,definitely not stock form cuz the emissions are what kill the 6.4s I love the diesel 6.4 but definitely in top 5 most reliable if deletes and tune no doubt
Do you have one of those 08-10 Supper Duty trucks? If so, how is the truck? I'm asking because I'd like to own one some day, but I want to know if they're reliable trucks, or if they're always falling apart. I'm not really asking about the motor, just the quality of the truck itself
@@motormouth2472 I have never owned one myself, but from what I gather, 6.4s are lemons in stock form. At least a 6.0 will be reliable enough, provided you keep it stock and don’t trash on it much. The gassers are average trucks, although the cab must be removed to effect any major repair.
I don't tow and don't need a 6.7 diesel, but I bought a 2017 Ford F250 6.7 anyway. Aside from the massive 440 hp and 925 ft/pounds of torque, a diesel can outlast a gasser 2x to 3x all tbings being equal. I am retured and love road trips and the power to overcome mountain passes, headwinds, and roll effortlessly across the plain states is so nice. Crossing Eisenhower Pass in Colorado at close to 12,000 feet elevation? No sweat. Coming back down steep grades for miles ajd miles? Just press the exhaust brake and let the auto exhuast braking take over. Crossing New Mexico in the summer at 109° heat? No sweat. It was made to do that pulling a 15,000 trailer so going empty is no problem. Signs say turn off A/C to grind up The Grapevine in the summer? Who cares! Keep the A/C on and drive up in comfort. I love my diesel.
Something else to add is the 6.2 got a torque increase in 2017, and I'm not sure what year they did this but they paired it with the 10 speed with drw only F350s. About when he said we might see a new look or power output in 2023, that could be true, it could probably be something doing with the F150 hybrid. Iv been seeing posts of maybe a hybrid superduty coming
the 1997 body redesign had to be scrapped on the Super Duty (F250 and up) because the hood was too low to fit the 7.3L diesel underneath it. or so im told by an engineer at Ford and a product rep at the company that supplied lots of parts for the engine... since about 2005, the front end has gotten more and more ugly. while i liked the squared off look or the 70s and 80s F150s, they were lower and cleaner looking at least to me... good vid, thanks. i owned a 99 F250 with the diesel and loved the truck but at only 19mpg in the summer months, it just wasnt what i needed having sold my trailer the year before...
First Ford Super Duty truck was August 1997. I know because I have a '97 Ford F350 XLT SD 4x4 with 7.3 diesel engine. Production was August 1997. Heavier duty frame, better suspension and it has front and rear 1" sway bars.
It seems you started a few years too late. In my garage sits a 1995 Ford F-Super Duty. The 95-97 (cross check this year) Ford trucks came in F 150/250/350/Super Duty. The F-Super Duty was a cab and chassis and was either 1.5 or 2 ton version. Mine is the 1.5 ton model with the 7.3 International mated to a ZF-5 with a factory 5.13:1 rear end. It struggles to hit 70 mph before the rev limiter but it will run 60 mph all day with anything you can put on it.
I still own and drive a 1999 f350 reg cab,4 wheel drive,my engine on the passenger side says 275h..p., 6speed manuel trans dually,has a true dana 60 in the front and a dana 80 in the back,i bought the tuck brand new,has been a good truck,ai 76 years old I stilll drive it
@@marvnation924 Absolutely. I love it. Hardly any complaints and those are very minor. Love the 7.3 and the 10 speed transmission. I have 20,000 miles on it.
I’ll stick with my old 1999 7.3L 4x4 F-350 SRW. The truck has given me zero issues and i love it because of it’s sinplicity. It has everything i need and none of the fancy gadgets and crap i don’t want.
I have a 2011 f250 4x4 super duty, super cab long bed 6.2 gas. Have had several diesels but i wanted a gas truck. Just last week had 4 tons in the dump trailer and 1 ton in the bed. 65 to70 mph for 2 hours home and 8 mpg. I cant complain and has 181000 trouble free miles
My motor just went out at 218xxx Miles. Same setup. Had a light tick since I got it at 190xxx miles 4 years ago. I'm about to drop $9k on a jasper remanufactured motor. Great motor, still.
And because Ford can’t make money unless the 7.3s broke down unfortunately the 7.3 would fairly break so basically with that being said Ford can’t pay for parts witch if no breaks no profits ,witch is exactly why the 6.7 powerstroke is still in production it breaks down
The SuperDuty nameplate started as the name for the comercial Lincoln Y block engine in the 60s and 70s which was available in F 500/550 to F700,800/750 light commercial trucks
The nameplate started with the 401, 477 and 534 cubic inch V8 equipped trucks that came out for the 1958 models. It was not a Lincoln Y block. Those Lincoln Y blocks were used before then and some variants were available on the medium duty trucks.
To understand more fully you have to go back a lot further than 1998. Try 1958 when the Super Duty engine line was introduced. 1960 was the first Ford truck with the “Super Duty” name on the hood.
I wish ford went back to using the same body style on the 1/2 ton with the 3/4 & 1ton. This way u get the power of a 3/4 with the size of a 1/2 ton truck. In the 1990s you could have a 150 EXTCab long bed with either a 150 or 250 gas or diesel option. Or if u wanted something more u could get a CCLB or w a dually or go to a short cab long bed basically a 150 size but with a 250-350. And yes they did make the standard cab in a 250. They’re rare, but they are out there.
Amazing journey, me and my 02 7.3 are doin just fine where we are. They done fkd up a good thing they had goin, but what do I know. Great video, man. Thanks and remember, Jesus don't do lockdowns on this day. Blessings.
I love the video but you could get a factory 4 wheel drive dually from the late 80s until 97 as a cab and chassis truck (sold with no bed) I know for a fact because I own a 93 f350 5 speed 4x4 dually 7.3.
Today we think of a 4WD dully as normal. in reality Ford was right with the OBS, as it's a pointless configuration for a professional use truck. The 4WD dully is a toy truck for running to the grocery store. a 2wd dully is perfect for towing and a single wheel 4WD is better suited to farm/construction/plow use off road/on snow
4WD Dully is mandatory for firefighting operations with type 6 engines and highly useful for ambulance packages.....we use them all the time. We used to have no end of trouble with the aftermarket conversions so this was a major and well received upgrade for us.
@@ryanelliott2528 could you explain that? What does this configuration do for you better than one of the other options? The only benefit of a dully is added weight capacity on the rear axel, at the expense of traction as each tire has less weight on it.
@@johngaltline9933 A type 6 engine carries 500-800gal on the rear axle depending on tank configuration. These engines are operated on steep inaccessible terrain not reachable by larger engines. Some crew carriers (ambulance package) carry 6 additional personnel over the rear axle. In both instances we’ve driven past those with 2wd configurations. When you’re headed to the top of the mountain, every foot you can drive is one less that you have to hike. In real world tactical applications the 4wd dully wins.
@@ryanelliott2528 So the use case is for cab ans chassis trucks , not pick ups. Got it. Sorry, I missed it in the first post. I can see it being useful to have the option... but also, it seems like any builder that can put on an ambulance or firetruck body ought to be able to swap an axle as well. I mean the only difference in the dully and standard axle OBS trucks is that the dully axle is about 4 inches longer. Im a little curious on the merits of actually taking an emergency vehicle in to a place where a 2wd gets stuck. It seems like you're asking to get it stuck... far enough along where nobody will be able to help get you out. I don't know, not being in the field, but I'd think you'd be better off with something like a good ATV to get to remote places quickly without getting stuck, and a standard axle 4x4 pickup with a good tow strap to pull out the dualies when they get stuck. All that said, lets put aside cab and chassis trucks, is there a use case for off the lot, fully loaded, 4x4 f350 dualies?
@@johngaltline9933I grew up around a lot of ranchers, when you got a full trailer of cattle or horses the 4x4 helps a lot out in a field. If you got 10-15-20 cows behind you, you want a dually, but you also need a 4x4
I own one, a 2000 Super Duty with the long frame, single cab, V-10, dualie, 5 speed manual and 4 wheel drive.... an F350. Folks come up to me at stops (usually at the fueling stations) to see if I am interested in selling all the time. One very uncommonly seen truck. I have a 13 foot steel flatbed on it and kitted with tool boxes, fuel tank, and a few underslung boxes, pintle hitch, and tie down hooks for versatility
It depends on what you're doing. For example, a hotshot truck would be terrible with the 7.3L gasser, since they're regularly loaded to 20k to 30K+. But, for lighter work the gasser is probably a great option.
@@Dustrunnersauto it's also made with affordability and ease of maintenance in mind. Some people don't have the money for a diesel engine option which is very expensive. The 7.3 is a very affordable powerhouse that does pull well. Not like a diesel, but it does a good job
We can go real deep and say the first Super Duty trucks were 1959, my 1994.5 F450 is an F-Superduty, but that being said most people know the 98 to present truck as a Superduty. Also Ford never made an F-250/350 in 1998, it was a grey area
The F-Superdutys back then had the 10 lug wheels, & I think a stiffer frame. The F-Superdutys in the 1990s were a tad bit rare, but not uncommon to find if you look at what’s out there rn. Just be aware that when u get an OBS don’t beat the crap out of it, cuz there’s a limited amount of em left for the rest of us guys that want to fix em up & keep em goin.
@@BigJfan That was a bullshit truck, later called the F150 7700 with 7 lug wheels, I call shenanigans on that vehicle. Build date means nothing as far as "model year" my friend has one of the last OBS F250's off the assembly line and it as built very late 1997, sold as a 1997. I had a late build 1999, that was a 2000, my F-Superduty is a 1994.5 and you bet your ass the half a year makes a significant difference
The modern Super Duty did not start with a different body style I have a 97 F Super Duty that has the OBS but a similar frame as the 99, it is 10 lug and straight front axle so not the old Heavy Duty but a true Super Duty that also included rear disk brakes. Also worth noting is they were all just called F Super Duty with no number however there were several GVRWs
Yes....but no. While you are correct regarding the current use of Super Duty, Ford originally used it on trucks in the 60s. I'm sure most people don't realize the name is from much earlier! At least this time they stay with the correct vehicle for the name, instead of using Mustang on an EV CUV or Lighting from a performance vehicle to an EV or Maverick.... well, you get the idea.
1959 Ford F-1000 and F-1100 were the original Super Duty trucks. They were tractor trailer trucks though. The superest of duty trucks. Can't forget their beginnings. Super duty used to actually be super duty trucks.
Aluminum is not good for truck use... learn about fatigue limits if y'all don't already know... also aluminum upon impact can tear and form sharp split tears, that can pop tires and cause much more havoc in an accident.
I had the entire history of the Super Duty name itself and previous trucks with that name as part of the video script, but I ended up omitting it during the video editing process because I felt like focusing on just the modern Super Duty truck would help with clarity.
It might be confusing because the Super Duty name was previously related to a handful of engines they offered back in the day. The name also referred to trucks with those aforementioned engines in the F-Series, as well as some other truck variants Ford offered back then. And then the name was used on the F-Super Duty chassis cab truck.
Because of all that, I felt it was best to focus on the "modern" Super Duty truck, rather than the full history of where and how the name was used by Ford.
I was hoping there would be a segment on the super duty trucks from the 60's. Have fun
Very well done video. Your quality and no nonsense presentation put you at the top of my list. Thanks for your time and commitment. Theo her the video the better! Cheers!
So basically 2003-2010 was Ford trying to desperately recreate the 7.3l while complying with constantly changing emission regulations.
It was Navistar who made all 3 diesel 7.3, 6.0, and 6.4 for Ford but yea same thing pretty much. Stupid emissions killed the ol reliable 7.3L. 2003 is when the tide of emissions regulations started rolling in, with the EGR system being required that year
@@mrsluigi9478 I daily drive a 7.3l F250 and I love it. Just wish diesel wasn't so expensive these days
I'm 66 years old. I've owned trucks my entire life. I've had Chevy's , Ford's and a Toyota. My 2007 Ford F350 5.4L Super Duty utility truck is hands-down the best truck I have ever owned. I bought it new off the lot in 2006 for $38,000. It now has 184,600. The only thing I do different than what the manual says is I put Marvel Mystery oil in the oil and gas. I drive it hauling thousands of pounds of lumber, materials and equipment to Flagstaff from The Bay area a couple of times a year. It has never failed me or stranded me in the middle of no where. Once you replace the stupid 2-piece spark plugs this engine is bomb-proof. The Marvel is from an Aviator Hero of mine who had an amazing story with his aircraft engines. I'll leave it at that. If you use it in your engines they will last forever.
Got an Excursion and I love it. Although it's not a true "Super Duty", it's still built on the same body.
why is that
@@79series Why is what? Although it's an Excursion which is on the Super Duty body style, it's not one, because it's not a truck
I would still rather have an excursion
@Christopher OK got ya. I thought super duty maybe based off big diff and running gear.
The excursion with the 7.3 is a beast and a great tow rig if you're pulling a airstream trailer, beautiful and spacious interior plus the super duty frame and suspension, much nicer for a family to vacation with instead of cramming the family and Fido into a pickup
4:33, I think the transmission before the 5r110 was the 4r100, not 5r100
You should consider doing a video on SAE J2807 and how it affected payload, and towing ratings for all manufacturers.
Definitely cause I have no clue what tf that is lol
Yes, id like to know more about this please!
@@brettgriffin2947 towing performance
We reached the point with the 6.7L desiel and 10 speed tranny that we don’t need more power. Only place to improve is efficiency and refinement
Honestly the 6.7 Powerstroke is by a big margin the class leader regarding fuel economy. You can't really do much more with a 6.7L diesel V8 engine, and it's also pretty smooth too.
I had a 2009 Super Duty with the 6.8L V-10 which made 362 HP and 457 lbft of torque at 3200 rpm. It was paired with a 4.10 rear and was an outstanding platform for towing.
Subscribed! I don’t own a diesel truck or have much need for the towing power (yet) but I enjoy learning about all of these amazing tools. What a great time to be alive!
I would like to pick a hole in the script. When Ford replaced the 5.4 with the 6.2, it was just the 5.4 that was replaced. The 6.8 remained all the way until 2020. It was a lesser used option, but it did remain. And the 6.2 is still an option today. The 7.3 replaced the 6.8 as an option, and the 6.8 is no longer used anywhere in Ford's current lineup.
I would venture to guess the public utility I work for has about 1500 Super Duty cab and cassis across the fleet with various assortments of builds. Some are manlifts, others are super structures, while others are simple companion trucks with bin boxes. The garage I am assigned to maintains about 30 different Super Duty configurations.
Aside from the diesel engines you discussed in other videos, the trucks have held up really well. Although none of the gas engines have ever impressed our drivers. There aren't many gas engines in the fleet, but the few we have just don't hold a candle to the diesel equipped trucks.
One of the coolest things Ford ever did was install upfitter switches in their trucks to make adding accessories much cleaner. We no longer have to find a place to cut holes in the instrument panel to add switches and run wiring; the switches and wiring are aready there. I believe three of the switches are 15 amp while the other two are 20 amp. It makes for a clean install of PTOs, beacons, and other things a user might need.
Of all the things I could complain about, Ford made cabin filter replacement a complete pain in the a$$ on their trucks. Since the fleet I am assigned to is in the desert, cabin filters last about a month before needing replacement. With 30 of those in our local fleet it seems I am changing a filter at least once a day. Of course I could just leave out the filter, but the users really enjoy clean air in the cab.
I got a '99 F350 V10 Super Duty last year and I was amazed with the handling and towing that the truck offered in spite of the vintage
How is a 99 vintage
@@dirtbikesanddiesels978 its not all that old as a 23 year old truck, but it does look and feel antiquated technology-wise compared to what 2022~2023 has to offer in terms of a 99 towing 10k vs a 2022 towing 25 to 35k lbs.
I'll tow 30k with my 99
I had a 7.3 Powerstroke dually, and loved it. Wish I had been smart enough to keep it. If buying a used diesel it's better to get a 99 to early 03 model, or jump all the way to the 6.7 engine in 13. A bulletproofed 6.0 is a pretty good truck, but folks that undertook that cost seem to be hanging on to them. I can't blame them, a new one costs more than a lot of people paid for their house. Yikes!!!
Don't forget the Dana 80 rear axle which is what I have in my 2000 F350 DRW with 3.55's and lsd. It's the 4r100 then the 5r110 after 2003.5, 6r140 after 2011
Good video thanks, love my 2000 f250 super duty v10. Great truck
Got a 99 4x4 7.3 and a 2000 4x2 7.3, i love them, i got more diesel trucks, but i love the 7.3 more, not only the engine, but the brakes, the interior, the macho suspension... Got a 2003 ram Cummins, i prefer the ford .. you can say the Cummins is a better engine, but ford is a better truck .
Ya. Always got to love the old 7.3l powerstroke.
@@thesquad3885 -- the 7.3 was a great engine for it's day but that day is gone and the 6.7 has twice the power and torque and has actually been made for more years then the 7.3 was
@@mdlclassguymdlclassguy6488 now let’s see if they last as long and keep as good if a reputation as the 7.3
@@kevinwatkins2762 , the 6.7 is , there's plenty of examples, if you pumped up the old 7.3 you could get into the power range of a 6.7 but not for long that's kinda my point the 6.7 deserves some respect, I just wish Ford would give us the option of a manual transmission
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I’ve got an e99 7.3 with the zf-6. Pretty happy with it but would love to swap to 05+ axles and suspension. Should mention you could get the manual trans up to 2010 but they dropped it when they brought out the 6.7. The “original super duty” is the obs f450 they called it the superduty
My father had a 2010 single cab 5.4 with a standard trans it was awesome but I never liked the way it shifted it almost felt like it was hard to get into gear and the 5.4 had such poor low end power. Nevertheless it was a cool truck and he finally bought his first automatic super duty in 2019
@@wheelinndealin that's peculiar because I thought my 5.4 two valve was way torquier than a hemi by far, being that it's an undersquare piston
I got a 02 7.3 with zf-6
In Mexico you can find newer superdutys with a manual trans but only with the 6.2
@@MTZProject yea they like that trim for some reason
The twin-traction beam was only on the F250 4x4s. All of the F350 4x4s were solid axles. The 10.5 vs 10.25 is a third pinion bearing(SRW only) all the duallys were Dana 80s.
Have 6.4 and I love it! Don't care what anyone says the truck is fully deleted and runs great. I don't treat it like a race truck and it's been super reliable, 160k+ and counting.
I've had mine for a year, about to delete it.... Just hit 169k miles... Love the truck
Nice! Hopefully it stays reliable. When they're working well, the 6.4L is capable of making some serious power on the stock turbo setup.
Maintenance is key! They aren’t that bad of a motor as what most make it seem. My 08 6.4 has 252k and it’s been stock it’s entire life. I just deleted it and I’m loving it. It’s a powerhouse and gets 21mpg on the freeway doing 75 no problem! Be sure to change your oil and I’d run a coolant filter on them for extra safety.
Does your state do annual emissions testing? How do you pass w/ a DPF delete?
Love my 6.4.206k latter no issues fully deleted and mini maxx tuned,getting 755HP 1300TQ and 19mpg on interstate with 10,000lbs load behind me
Do a video about the “Extra” Super Duty F-650 & 750! It was a trip when I realized that my 02 F-650 is identical to my F-250 in the cab.
Love the triton v10s of the first and second gen super dutyz
I currently own 2 7.3l 99 pickups. One is a service truck with a 6 speed manual transmission and the other truck is a old oil feild truck with 260k miles. Both trucks perform well under 10 tons.
But the only truck that will still compete with the 7.3l is my old 91 f150 5.0l with a 4 speed f-250 style transmission. This old truck has shown that no matter what the engine is it will always show it true form under a heavy load. I basic pushed the old 91 f150 with 35k of 5th wheel and bumper pulling.
I have a 35 ft motorhome on a gas super duty chassis and it rides like a Lincoln Continental. Absolutely love it
Thank you for making this video. My fav truck ever (looks) is the 10th gen f250 super duty. I couldn't find much info on it, thank you for making this vid.
Love the truck history videos.
UPDATE: The 2023 Super Duty has been refreshed once again. The body & interior were redesigned, and engine options have changed yet again. The 6.2L Boss V8 has been replaced with a 6.8L gas V8 which is essentially a smaller 7.3L gas engine, and there is a new high output option for the 6.7L Powerstroke which makes a whopping 500hp and 1,200ft-lb of torque.
Awesome history on super dutys!!!!!
1999 Ford F550 Four Door Dually with a V8 7.3 International/Navistar Powerstroke, making that "tractor clacking noise" in idle with a Straight Pipe!
Why not mention the F-Superduty square body’s? There’s several in my area, 460 gas, and 7.3 powered 5 speed manuals. The 460 was a legendary engine worth mentioning.
The super duty is apart of the newbody style not obs
@@xzombie688 look it up, there literally is a Ford F-Superduty OBS. If you want video evidence, look up Watch Wes Work. He did a whole video on one.
I own one, it's great, 10 bolt rims 1995 7.3 powerstroke.
I had the entire history of the Super Duty name itself and previous trucks with that name as part of the video script, but I ended up omitting it during the video editing process because I felt like focusing on just the modern Super Duty truck would help with clarity.
It might be confusing because the Super Duty name was previously related to a handful of engines they offered back in the day. The name also referred to trucks with those aforementioned engines in the F-Series, as well as some other truck variants Ford offered back then. And then the name was used on the F-Super Duty chassis cab truck.
Because of all that, I felt it was best to focus on the "modern" Super Duty truck, rather than the full history of where and how the name was used by Ford.
The 7.5 or 460 cid engine sucked. I had a 96 with it and got poor mileage and could barely pull my short 5th wheel uphill
I’m a 6.4 power stroke guy ,,I admit the 6.4 is definitely problematic,,when it’s stocked,,the new emission system on the 6.4 known as the DPF was a big mistake,,it was there first time they put a DPF on a diesel,,but when the 6.4 is deleted with small or any tunes they are very reliable with great TQ and hp ,,the 6.4 is very underrated,, all though the pistons on the 6.4 are made out of aluminum that’s one of the problems that can’t be fixed with the original pistons but the 6.4 can handle up to 1200hp and 1880TQ until the pistons crack ,,785hp is not enough hp to crack the pistons ,,all in all the 6.4 definitely deserves to be in the top 5 most reliable diesels.
I’m a Ford guy for sure but 6.4? Top 5 most reliable? Not in stock form
@@superb334 I agree ,definitely not stock form cuz the emissions are what kill the 6.4s I love the diesel 6.4 but definitely in top 5 most reliable if deletes and tune no doubt
Do you have one of those 08-10 Supper Duty trucks? If so, how is the truck? I'm asking because I'd like to own one some day, but I want to know if they're reliable trucks, or if they're always falling apart. I'm not really asking about the motor, just the quality of the truck itself
@@motormouth2472 I have never owned one myself, but from what I gather, 6.4s are lemons in stock form. At least a 6.0 will be reliable enough, provided you keep it stock and don’t trash on it much. The gassers are average trucks, although the cab must be removed to effect any major repair.
@@superb334 ahh okay, thank you for your input
Got a 99 f250 swb4x4 5.4 5sp totally bulletproof for off road.
Need a rear traction bar for wheelhop, though.
I don't tow and don't need a 6.7 diesel, but I bought a 2017 Ford F250 6.7 anyway. Aside from the massive 440 hp and 925 ft/pounds of torque, a diesel can outlast a gasser 2x to 3x all tbings being equal. I am retured and love road trips and the power to overcome mountain passes, headwinds, and roll effortlessly across the plain states is so nice. Crossing Eisenhower Pass in Colorado at close to 12,000 feet elevation? No sweat. Coming back down steep grades for miles ajd miles? Just press the exhaust brake and let the auto exhuast braking take over. Crossing New Mexico in the summer at 109° heat? No sweat. It was made to do that pulling a 15,000 trailer so going empty is no problem. Signs say turn off A/C to grind up The Grapevine in the summer? Who cares! Keep the A/C on and drive up in comfort. I love my diesel.
That was a great recap!
Luv ur informational video YT channel! Subbed, keep up the great content!! Very enjoyable
Something else to add is the 6.2 got a torque increase in 2017, and I'm not sure what year they did this but they paired it with the 10 speed with drw only F350s. About when he said we might see a new look or power output in 2023, that could be true, it could probably be something doing with the F150 hybrid. Iv been seeing posts of maybe a hybrid superduty coming
the 1997 body redesign had to be scrapped on the Super Duty (F250 and up) because the hood was too low to fit the 7.3L diesel underneath it. or so im told by an engineer at Ford and a product rep at the company that supplied lots of parts for the engine...
since about 2005, the front end has gotten more and more ugly. while i liked the squared off look or the 70s and 80s F150s, they were lower and cleaner looking at least to me...
good vid, thanks. i owned a 99 F250 with the diesel and loved the truck but at only 19mpg in the summer months, it just wasnt what i needed having sold my trailer the year before...
First Ford Super Duty truck was August 1997. I know because I have a '97 Ford F350 XLT SD 4x4 with 7.3 diesel engine. Production was August 1997. Heavier duty frame, better suspension and it has front and rear 1" sway bars.
I think you’re confusing it with the “Heavy Duty” that was 97 specific
It seems you started a few years too late. In my garage sits a 1995 Ford F-Super Duty. The 95-97 (cross check this year) Ford trucks came in F 150/250/350/Super Duty. The F-Super Duty was a cab and chassis and was either 1.5 or 2 ton version. Mine is the 1.5 ton model with the 7.3 International mated to a ZF-5 with a factory 5.13:1 rear end. It struggles to hit 70 mph before the rev limiter but it will run 60 mph all day with anything you can put on it.
DRW and 4x4 were absolutely available together in the obs trucks...
Correct. Cab and Chassis models were available as 4X4 DRW.
Subscribed! I work in ford parts this stuff is gold thank you for your research and well done also your videos and the F series diesels.
I still own and drive a 1999 f350 reg cab,4 wheel drive,my engine on the passenger side says 275h..p., 6speed manuel trans dually,has a true dana 60 in the front and a dana 80 in the back,i bought the tuck brand new,has been a good truck,ai 76 years old I stilll drive it
Thanks for the history lesson. I have purchased a 2022 F250 and hope to take possession of it in a week. Ordered it in January. 😁
Nice! I know a lot of their new trucks have been massively delayed. Hopefully you get yours without any problems.
What trim level? And I would assume a Powerstroke?
@@loudenschucker1042 well I ordered the Lariat trim. But I went for the 7.3 gas. I do tow a lot but trailer and contents is 6000 lb.
I know you messaged this over a year ago, but how is the truck now? Do you like it?
@@marvnation924
Absolutely. I love it. Hardly any complaints and those are very minor. Love the 7.3 and the 10 speed transmission. I have 20,000 miles on it.
Great video!
I really enjoyed the truck history videos
I’ll stick with my old 1999 7.3L 4x4 F-350 SRW. The truck has given me zero issues and i love it because of it’s sinplicity. It has everything i need and none of the fancy gadgets and crap i don’t want.
Miles?
@@SuperDuty250, now has just under 147K on the odometer. She runs like a clock.
great vid i have an 01 f 250 with the 5.4 and a 5 spd std love the truck do you know if ford still offers a std trans in the super duty?
Better keep it. No more manuals.
I have a 2011 f250 4x4 super duty, super cab long bed 6.2 gas. Have had several diesels but i wanted a gas truck. Just last week had 4 tons in the dump trailer and 1 ton in the bed. 65 to70 mph for 2 hours home and 8 mpg. I cant complain and has 181000 trouble free miles
My motor just went out at 218xxx Miles. Same setup. Had a light tick since I got it at 190xxx miles 4 years ago. I'm about to drop $9k on a jasper remanufactured motor. Great motor, still.
@@mediocrefloridaman been lucky, mine has never ticked yet!!
The v10 actually stayed in the f450 to f750 until 2019.
They also put those motors in RV's, School buses, and utility vans and box trucks
the super duty started in 1958 with the 401,475 and 534 super duty engines , the thing you are talking about is a lite duty pickup.
Most people don’t know this, but the 7.3 was replaced because it wouldn’t meet noise emissions, not because of exhaust
Exactly
And because Ford can’t make money unless the 7.3s broke down unfortunately the 7.3 would fairly break so basically with that being said Ford can’t pay for parts witch if no breaks no profits ,witch is exactly why the 6.7 powerstroke is still in production it breaks down
The SuperDuty nameplate started as the name for the comercial Lincoln Y block engine in the 60s and 70s which was available in F 500/550 to F700,800/750 light commercial trucks
The nameplate started with the 401, 477 and 534 cubic inch V8 equipped trucks that came out for the 1958 models. It was not a Lincoln Y block. Those Lincoln Y blocks were used before then and some variants were available on the medium duty trucks.
To understand more fully you have to go back a lot further than 1998. Try 1958 when the Super Duty engine line was introduced. 1960 was the first Ford truck with the “Super Duty” name on the hood.
Got a 93 7.3 idi and a 99 powerstroke. Both are amazing. Hope they both outlast me.
You just explained the whole reason why I'm going with a ram.
Are the 2008-2010 truck bodies themselves good? I'm not asking about the motors, just the quality of those trucks
I wish ford went back to using the same body style on the 1/2 ton with the 3/4 & 1ton. This way u get the power of a 3/4 with the size of a 1/2 ton truck.
In the 1990s you could have a 150 EXTCab long bed with either a 150 or 250 gas or diesel option.
Or if u wanted something more u could get a CCLB or w a dually or go to a short cab long bed basically a 150 size but with a 250-350. And yes they did make the standard cab in a 250. They’re rare, but they are out there.
Since 2017 they have used the same cab as the F150.
The 08 -10 series in my book is the SHARPEST truck out there
Amen,can be very reliable with little work that most people are to stupid to do
Amazing journey, me and my 02 7.3 are doin just fine where we are. They done fkd up a good thing they had goin, but what do I know. Great video, man. Thanks and remember, Jesus don't do lockdowns on this day. Blessings.
You certainly sound like a man of the cloth lol
You referred to the 4 speed automatic transmission as the 5R100. Believe it’s the 4R100z Simple oversight
Please do a video on the 7.3 gas V8
I want to see more videos of the History of the Ford Bronco And Excursion also F-series Medium duty commercial trucks
I love the video but you could get a factory 4 wheel drive dually from the late 80s until 97 as a cab and chassis truck (sold with no bed) I know for a fact because I own a 93 f350 5 speed 4x4 dually 7.3.
The name super duty has been around a lot longer than in the 90s!! and you could get duel wheels and 4wheel drive in the 80s
What about the f-superduty in the early 90s?
talk about the f550 and higher up
Today we think of a 4WD dully as normal. in reality Ford was right with the OBS, as it's a pointless configuration for a professional use truck. The 4WD dully is a toy truck for running to the grocery store. a 2wd dully is perfect for towing and a single wheel 4WD is better suited to farm/construction/plow use off road/on snow
4WD Dully is mandatory for firefighting operations with type 6 engines and highly useful for ambulance packages.....we use them all the time. We used to have no end of trouble with the aftermarket conversions so this was a major and well received upgrade for us.
@@ryanelliott2528 could you explain that? What does this configuration do for you better than one of the other options? The only benefit of a dully is added weight capacity on the rear axel, at the expense of traction as each tire has less weight on it.
@@johngaltline9933 A type 6 engine carries 500-800gal on the rear axle depending on tank configuration. These engines are operated on steep inaccessible terrain not reachable by larger engines. Some crew carriers (ambulance package) carry 6 additional personnel over the rear axle. In both instances we’ve driven past those with 2wd configurations. When you’re headed to the top of the mountain, every foot you can drive is one less that you have to hike. In real world tactical applications the 4wd dully wins.
@@ryanelliott2528 So the use case is for cab ans chassis trucks , not pick ups. Got it. Sorry, I missed it in the first post. I can see it being useful to have the option... but also, it seems like any builder that can put on an ambulance or firetruck body ought to be able to swap an axle as well. I mean the only difference in the dully and standard axle OBS trucks is that the dully axle is about 4 inches longer.
Im a little curious on the merits of actually taking an emergency vehicle in to a place where a 2wd gets stuck. It seems like you're asking to get it stuck... far enough along where nobody will be able to help get you out. I don't know, not being in the field, but I'd think you'd be better off with something like a good ATV to get to remote places quickly without getting stuck, and a standard axle 4x4 pickup with a good tow strap to pull out the dualies when they get stuck.
All that said, lets put aside cab and chassis trucks, is there a use case for off the lot, fully loaded, 4x4 f350 dualies?
@@johngaltline9933I grew up around a lot of ranchers, when you got a full trailer of cattle or horses the 4x4 helps a lot out in a field. If you got 10-15-20 cows behind you, you want a dually, but you also need a 4x4
You forgot the E series the transit having super duty’s not to mention the f650/f750s
why did you show a picture of a Cobra motor that's not a 5.4
I really hope to watching your IDI engine video.
You could actually buy and OBS superduty with dual rear wheels and 4 wheel drive. But I believe it was only in single cabs
I own one, a 2000 Super Duty with the long frame, single cab, V-10, dualie, 5 speed manual and 4 wheel drive.... an F350. Folks come up to me at stops (usually at the fueling stations) to see if I am interested in selling all the time. One very uncommonly seen truck. I have a 13 foot steel flatbed on it and kitted with tool boxes, fuel tank, and a few underslung boxes, pintle hitch, and tie down hooks for versatility
You’re correct. We had a 97 7.3 dually 4x4. Im pretty sure only single cabs came in that configuration
Cab and Chassis only.
Don’t diss the sooper doody
Not even a mention of Ford's history with the super duty name in heavy trucks that dates back to the fifties.
Please do this same video but for heavy duty Dodge/Ram trucks 👍🏻
I'd take the 7.3 Gas over the Diesel
Agreed, TFL Truck loves the engine and tested it a ton
It depends on what you're doing. For example, a hotshot truck would be terrible with the 7.3L gasser, since they're regularly loaded to 20k to 30K+. But, for lighter work the gasser is probably a great option.
If you don’t get a diesel all you got is a glorified f150.
@@Dustrunnersauto it's also made with affordability and ease of maintenance in mind. Some people don't have the money for a diesel engine option which is very expensive. The 7.3 is a very affordable powerhouse that does pull well. Not like a diesel, but it does a good job
Your 6.2L number are wrong o got mine in jun of 2010 as an 11 model it was 390HP 410TQ
What year is this? 5:17
05 I believe
Don’t know,,I think it’s the 20s
We can go real deep and say the first Super Duty trucks were 1959, my 1994.5 F450 is an F-Superduty, but that being said most people know the 98 to present truck as a Superduty. Also Ford never made an F-250/350 in 1998, it was a grey area
Agreed with everything you said
Yep my father had F1000 Super Duty from the early 60s
The F-Superdutys back then had the 10 lug wheels, & I think a stiffer frame.
The F-Superdutys in the 1990s were a tad bit rare, but not uncommon to find if you look at what’s out there rn. Just be aware that when u get an OBS don’t beat the crap out of it, cuz there’s a limited amount of em left for the rest of us guys that want to fix em up & keep em goin.
Ford did make a F-250 for 98' It looked just like the 97'F150. I've seen two of them. My 99 F450 was built in February of 98' but called a 99'
@@BigJfan That was a bullshit truck, later called the F150 7700 with 7 lug wheels, I call shenanigans on that vehicle. Build date means nothing as far as "model year" my friend has one of the last OBS F250's off the assembly line and it as built very late 1997, sold as a 1997. I had a late build 1999, that was a 2000, my F-Superduty is a 1994.5 and you bet your ass the half a year makes a significant difference
Trucks should be commercial looking!
The engine shown as a 5.4 gas engine is actually a 4.6 4V engine from a Cobra.
The King 🤴 of the Heavy Duty is the American 🇺🇸 made Ford Super Duty
Do a video like this on the dodge heavy duty’s
No one cares about them. All they do is take a pos 1500 and put an extra leaf spring in it. There,you don’t need a video anymore. LONG LIVE SUPERDUTY.
The super duty was in the 60s. Big hood scoop on it
The modern Super Duty did not start with a different body style I have a 97 F Super Duty that has the OBS but a similar frame as the 99, it is 10 lug and straight front axle so not the old Heavy Duty but a true Super Duty that also included rear disk brakes. Also worth noting is they were all just called F Super Duty with no number however there were several GVRWs
Yes....but no. While you are correct regarding the current use of Super Duty, Ford originally used it on trucks in the 60s. I'm sure most people don't realize the name is from much earlier! At least this time they stay with the correct vehicle for the name, instead of using Mustang on an EV CUV or Lighting from a performance vehicle to an EV or Maverick.... well, you get the idea.
1959 Ford F-1000 and F-1100 were the original Super Duty trucks. They were tractor trailer trucks though. The superest of duty trucks. Can't forget their beginnings. Super duty used to actually be super duty trucks.
I hope Ford is going to bring back the manual transmission for the Ford Super Duty trucks
I owned à 1989 f350 super duty with a gross vehiçle weight of14500 lbs. It had 10 hole 16" wheels
Qween of the recall world for sure.
Drove a 2003, 2008 style and both the f150, 250, 350 all drove like boxes...
Because they are boxes. Piece of shit boxes.
are we not gonna talk about the fact that he showed a 4.6 4v picture when talking about the 5.4 2v?
No.
I'm not sure I particularly care for splitting up the idea of further dividing the truck lines from the half ton
Fun fact: Ford’s 1.5 ton trucks used to be called F-Super Duty
Superduty name on a Ford F series was from late 50s early 60s
How about CP4 injection pump on all 6.7 power stroke engine.
It’s a huge downside that no one talks about plus there’s no swap kit available yet
I'm under the impression that there's at least a cp3 helper kit
One thing, I know you are talking about the 1998+ Super Duty trucks, but in 1997 Ford had the F-Super Duty. Just saying for accuracy
Aluminum is not good for truck use... learn about fatigue limits if y'all don't already know... also aluminum upon impact can tear and form sharp split tears, that can pop tires and cause much more havoc in an accident.
7.3 the best Engine mine is still running great 2001 350.000 miles still kicking getting rusty?
The modern super stroker is actually a really savage rig. Just don't get one with a sunroof, you'll thank me later
So confirmed, the new super duty IS Smaller than the last gens.