Thoughtfully edited, clearly measured out, and clearly explained alcohol stove instructional. My major challenge will be to find a full Foster's can in my fridge. 😅
The best, most organized demonstration demonstration I’ve seen of making an alcohol stove. I’m anxious to get to my bench. First, I have some Fosters to drink!
Newbie mistake! You have to keep one can full for stretching the top part a bit with it ;) ... or just have an extra can of beer as most professionals do :)
During the quarantine, I made a bunch of different beer can stoves... This is by far my favorite. Blooms fast, stable, does not need a stand and boils 2 cups in just over 3 min. Great video!
I made this stove and it works great! I used isopropyl alcohol and it took about 20min to boil 4 cups of tap water. I'm hoping denatured alcohol will burn hotter. this is a great video and explained everything very well. I diddnt have a jig but I placed my razor blade on some cd cases to cut my can. Great video!!
Really great! Love your well-organized bench. I am a gunsmith now that I've retired from being a wildlife/wetlands biologist, and find that organizing the work area, and keeping it neat, really aides turning out good work. You truly are a "Jig Man" after my own heart. I don't drink, never enjoyed the taste, but I do have several friends, so the Foster's won't go to waste. Six pack will give me a few of these, so my beer drinking buddies will also get a small alcohol stove for their efforts. Please keep up the good work, and good videos. Surprised by the number of viewers who do not bother to click the "thumbs up" icon. I'll see if a few of my friends will click that "subscribe" button. Many thanks for taking the time to share your ideas and methods.
Thank you for the comments, Craig! They are always appreciated. I do have more videos planned, including some stove videos. It's always difficult to gauge how detailed to get in some of them. Could you work on a Nylon 66?
Have before, but not much goes wrong with them that basic maintenance can't take care of. They do need to be kept clean, especially the bolt face and the base of the barrel - chamber face. Stiff toothbrush and some good old Hoppe's #9. Parts available through Gunparts.com.
i literally JUST finished my foster's can stove build TODAY and hadn't seen your version yet. i built mine for a penny to seal, with steel wool for spill-resistance and thermal mass, and had totally forgotten to polish the bottom; i dig your included primer pan, i gotta burn a small leaf/needle fire to prime. i might just have to build a TimCan Foster's stove next!
Worth to be watched and followed. I really liked it. We need such issues in Yemen where war situation and gas are more expensive than alcohol. We can do that in simpler methods because we don't have all the tools you have. Thanks
Thank you, Amer. I have planned an upcoming alcohol stove video where I will use only commonly available items and simpler methods as you suggest. I appreciate the reminder.
I didn't even know these were a thing until last night. Worked fine when I tested with 70% isopropyl alcohol (all we had in the house) . I'm going to make this Fosters can type tonight actually... Should be fun on a bun. Plus I'm pretty sure my penny can will fit inside it so I can easily pack both at once.
Followed the instructions with one exception...drilled 25 1/16th holes, cause I didn't have a 1mm drill bit. 1/16th inch = 1.6mm. Boiled four cups of water in 15 minutes from lighting. 75ml of denatured alcohol burned for 25 minutes. Flame pattern was perfect for the somewhat large pan I backpack with. Just a hint, don't force the entire stove top over the unopened Fosters can while trying to stretch it open. It will get stuck.
Since the way this thing functions is due to the outer chamber being pressurized, try not making such large holes or notches in the bottom of the outer chamber piece and only cutting scissor slits about 1/8" long.....the low viscosity of the Methyl Hydrate will certainly weep through the bottom and allow a higher inner chamber pressure. You may only need to make large access ports if you decide to seal the upper and lower contact points of the inner wall. I've made many of these stoves and never had a problem getting the flammable fumes into the outer chamber with no slits even cut and have had excellent pressure jets burning, making the entire project more efficient.....not being critical, just trying to assist in a point most makers of these stoves miss out...... sincerely K.W. BTW the penny stove is even better at producing higher pressure.....
Luisa Xu - Tim, when you use just one glove, doesn't the wear become uneven with the other glove? I mean, they are a "pair." IDK about you but that would bother me until I got the wear even again on both gloves. Just a thought....
Your other comment about using more accessible and inexpensive ways to make an alcohol stove motivated me to make a video where I make an alcohol stove using only commonly available tools. Thank you for the comment and the inspiration! - Tim Here's the link to the video: ua-cam.com/video/Q8w7AlTKBi4/v-deo.html
@@timcanthejigman7932 Tim that's like totally possible I have an extra keg I'm really think about doing that I thought about a smoker but he just changed my direction deer hunting heater stove sweet
Thank you Tim. Thanks to you and the others that do these stove videos, I have a new hobby.I've made several of the various types, penny, inner wall. I like the Foster's stove. I notice you make it the same height as the smaller ones. What if you made the stove taller? Would the only advantage be longer burn time? Haven't seen any taller than 1 1/2".
Thanks Chuck. The taller the stove, the less stable it could be. Low and wide means less chance of it tipping over but it could easily be made taller. The inner wall geometry would have to change with longer radii for both arcs. Have fun with your new hobby!
Thanks for replying. I have made 4 now. Only have 12 oz cans at the moment. I want to try the Fosters one. I also have a 5 ltr mini keg in the fridge. Wonder how that one would work?
Great detailed video. By chance have you tried cutting off the lids to those cans with those can openers that remove tin can lids without the sharp edges???, I forgot what those can openers are called but I believe they work by separating the lids at the seam on the main can body. Cut some of your cutting time down from 4 min to about 15 sec. Thanks for sharing! Kind regards, Eric Dee.
Hey Vacuum tube junky, I do know of the safety can openers and you are correct, they cut the seam and leave a rolled edge around the top. I have to cut down in the channel the way I do so that it leaves that lip that holds the inner wall in place. Thanks for the thought!
Not sure seems like special runs may be done for the export market. Emu Export is from the Northern Territory famous for its big cans but hard to find in Sydney.
I wonder what is the optimal height of an alcohol stove? I've seen from other videos that the optimal distance from the flames to the can of water is between an inch to inch-&-quarter. So I wonder can you build it taller, make the holes at about 1" to 1.25" below the top rim, make it taller so that enough fuel can be loaded under the holes, and would it still work properly? Very good guild btw!
Thanks, Toni. A few things going on here. First, I'd want to see the methodology behind the experiments that were done to determine that an inch to inch and a quarter is optimal. And optimal at what: boiling faster, using less fuel? Second, I'm not in favor of adding height to any of my alcohol stoves since it makes them more tippy. Third, the position, size, location and number of jet holes determines the thermal feedback driving the stove. You don't want a configuration that over heats the stove and gives you a runaway boil. I would advocate against changing the design unless you're prepared to spend a LOT of time testing in controlled conditions. Thanks for asking about this, that kind of thing interests me.
@@timcanthejigman7932 , optimal regarding boil time, assuming that the faster it boils generaly more efficient would be. I'll send you the link when i find it. Thanks for the quick response!
Excellent stove production, and with minimal tools. Do you happen to have weights on each of the stoves? I know that when people are considering these stoves, they are wanting something light for backpacking. Either way, good job dude! I'll be making one of these after my next beer run!
Hey Josh, thanks for the nudge to get me to weigh all my stoves. I've been meaning to do that for some time anyway! These weights are for stoves using the dimensions from my videos: Foster's - 21g, juice can - 6g, mini can - 8g and the 12 oz can - 9g. Thanks for the comments!
Jealous of your workspace. :) Was JUST thinking I would have to message you about a template (for the inner wall) and you made it for me, right then! Great video! Thanks!
I love this it’s great but I just don’t understand why not leave the button a little taller and use only the top part of the can VS. using top bottom and middle parts.
Hi Tim, I am hoping you will answer two questions for me. I have made a number of soda can burners. I want to narrow my work down two one or two styles. This, hopefully, will give me the best chance to create a good working stove. 1. Which one or two style of burner would you want to use? 2. Would an open top burner work better if it had a snug fitting lid, Or are they best left open. 3. Have you ever thought of uploading your templates? For the center wall for example? I would love to try your Fosters burner, but have not been able to get the pattern correct yet.. Thank you
Hi Janet. Thanks for your interest in learning from my videos. 1. I almost exclusively use this open top, side jet type of alcohol stove. I have videos showing how to make them from juice cans, mini cans, 12 oz cans and this Foster's one. The design is pretty bulletproof and easy to make. It only takes me about 10 minutes to make one. 2. You have to leave the top open initially so that the central flame can heat up the stove to start the alcohol vaporizing so it will come out the jets. Once the jets have bloomed, then you can put a pan directly on top to snuff out the central flame. No separate pot stand needed. 3. I was actually going to have templates for the different size cans online for download but it's so easy to simply draw two arcs with the correct radius. You could even do it with a pencil and piece of string.
All of my camping is in the winter so I use wire standoffs to hold the pot off the stove just enough that it eliminates thermal transfer from the cold pot to the warm stove. But the wire standoffs are thin enough that they don't let enough oxygen into the central burn chamber to keep a fire going there. Take a look at my vodeo on using an alcohol stove in very cold conditions: ua-cam.com/video/nPRU8V4Ltf8/v-deo.html There shouldn't be a problem putting the pot directly on the stove in warm weather. You should NOT use a stove stand that holds a pot high enough for a fire to continue in the central burn chamber. That flame needs to be snuffed out by the pot.
That was the excuse I was kind of waiting, to buy myself a nice bench drill and a new Proxxon. Santa better get busy this year, LOL. Thank you again for the awesome videos.
@@timcanthejigman7932 I seen video after Ur and the guy said gas bottle stove are better. I think alcohol ones could be safer. If gas bottle blows could cause a bit damage. Fuel would easier to get hands on
They each have their advantages and disadvantages. A big advantage of soda can stoves is that they are basically free, which seems to motivate a lot of people.
Ok so you are the pop can stove master, you've waisted years of your life making these stoves. Awsome . Here's what I'm trying to build. I'm trying to build a double burner, so like a fosters on the outside with with a redbull on the inside, both burning at once. I have also had good luck with JB weld holding stuff together
I'm curious if there is a benefit to using a top and bottom instead of 2 bottoms; 2 bottoms would give rectangular inner walls and so be easier to make. As an added benefit you would have an excuse to drink 2 beers.
I see a benefit in the economy of using just one can for one stove. You can still drink two beers, but then you get to make two stoves. If you use two bottoms, you have to cut out the center section of one of them and I find that to be more difficult than using a template to cut a curved inner wall using a top and bottom. There is usually more than one way to do something, though, and they can all work.
ok i am having trouble. when you cut the nick in the inner wall and bend it over, how exactly do you do it. i messed up on 3 of the inner walls i cut out,for three can stoves im making. it seems to come undone easy doesn't stay put, to well. help me out please and thanks.im going to have to cut out a few more inner walls but i dont want to mess up this time.
After I cut a small nick where the two ends overlap, I fold up little triangular corners - that locks it in place long enough for the stove to go together. I fold one triangle to the inside and the other triangle to the outside so they fold in opposite directions just the way the scissors starts to bend them. Take a look at 14:00 in this video: ua-cam.com/video/iVJeEbMEBEw/v-deo.html
I've said before, I'd rather teach a man to fish. I would feel guilty selling something that is basically free to make. That's why I show so much detail, so people can make their own and get good results. I appreciate the thought!
Seems like I did everything right but I'm still not getting any flames from the holes coming out 🤔😧 no matter how much I put in alcohol, lots or a little bit, still nothing.. does it it matter the height of the stove and the holes for the flames? Something is not right somewhere
This is a pretty forgiving design as far as hole size and spacing, height, etc. Still, there are some limits. The height of the stove affects the ability for flames to form. The taller the stove, the more mass there is and therefore, it's harder for the initial central flame to heat it up to the point of ignition of the jets. Also, quality of fuel. Only use Heet or denatured alcohol. Don't use anything with "iso" in the ingredient list or name.
There will be a point of diminishing returns going too tall. The flame coming out the jets has to keep the stove hot enough to continue vaporizing the fuel. If it's too tall, there's too much metal too far away to keep the stove properly hot. Also, the taller it is, the more tippy it becomes. I wouldn't make it 3 inches tall.
Love the stove and technique. Pity about the Fosters can size though. You'd think that Fosters, starting out in Australia, and iconic with Paul Hogan (Crocadile Dundee etc), would be available here. Nobody drinks it, and when I was at a party in the States many years ago they got Fosters in my honour and I had to be polite and drink it, but sorta like Bill Clinton (did not enjoy). Anyway, impossible to buy those cans in Oz. Pity because I think your design is fantastic. Thanks for showing me the jigs though. I know that viewers love the viseo in the US. As I say, pity we can't get that sized can here. I'd love to make one.
Hey Col Rodrick, too bad you can't get Fosters but there are other cans the same size I can get here in the States. Nothing like that in Oz? Anymore, when I'm out in the woods, that's the one I take just for the amount of alcohol it holds and for the wider stance. Glad to hear you appreciated it! It sounds like you've already discovered that I have videos of using other type cans with the same end in mind, just smaller in size. Thanks again!
@@timcanthejigman7932 I think I must have discovered you some time in the past when I was suffering insomnia (which is what afflicts old buggers like me; either that or I fall asleep in the chair - so best of both worlds eh?) and thought that's a great channel. I'll go back and binge watch his other stuff. I do like the larger can size. Still weigh 2/5 of nothing so no big deal and not terribly large either. I went on line to see if anything like that size was available here - there are 500ml cans I've bouhgt in the past Sapporo beer from Japan come like that and I think I've bought Heineken half liter too. But 700 odd ml? Not a size I can find at all. Anyway, thanks again for the excellent video.
It wouldn't be very efficient as a heater. Not enough mass in the aluminum to radiate much of anything and the flames don't last long enough to contribute anything.
@@hollyfoutz4291 Just about any of them work for that. If you like that pistol grip form, Dremel makes an add-on pistol grip that you can attach to any of their tools that have a nose bumper that unscrews. Search for Dremel tool and Dremel pistol grip. Big box hardware stores should have them in stock.
@@timcanthejigman7932 man, i was just about to buy some bits online, then i seen your comment, thanks for saving me some cash, and thanks for your videos!
Hi Goo Zion, in the US I use denatured alcohol (99.99% ethanol) or HEET gas line antifreeze (99.99% methanol). You may be able to find denatured alcohol where you buy paint.
lots of wasted fuel burns in the middle? i tried using the bottom of a fooster can, cut out with a hole(i may have made the hole too big, i think i need to make it smaller hole in the center of the can for oxygen flow. basically i want the flames to mostly come out of the the pilot holes, but i know it needs oxygen to burn. trying to figure out and an Efficient way to control the flames. i have a simmering ring that i made from a footers can but i haven't tried to use it. im not trying to simmer yet im just trying to control the middle flame.
I've never had an issue using any alcohol stove I've made. For precautions, I make sure I'm aware of where the stove is at all times so I don't accidentally bump into it or knock it over. Spilled flaming alcohol would be unsafe.
I explain it better in the video where I show how to make the inner wall template here: m.ua-cam.com/video/T0lXg_sL02s/v-deo.html I see you've found that video.
ei qual é a marca da segunda latinha. que eu vejo que sim caixa. a primeira é Pepsi agora a minha dúvida é a segunda. eu faço eu queria. uma meio de não corta o encaixo. por tanto. a segunda latinha. pelo o que eu vejo dá Francisco Fortaleza CE
John Hanley - Tim never forgets anything. "The Proper Way to drink a Foster's Beverage" (part 1 & 2) are listed in alphabetical order and can be found in Archives. Tags - Alcohol Stove, Foster's, drinking, aluminum can, and rehydrate.
Good question. It depends on how many and how large the holes are but the way I made mine, 100 ml of denatured alcohol will burn for about 40 minutes or more. It also depends on having a pot resting on the rim of the stove so that alcohol doesn't burn or evaporate in the center.
You bet. Here are three videos from the Davis West channel showing just that. ua-cam.com/video/lZlzrQJ_lPE/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/cnozbAVXJOo/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/G9JDdgai7QM/v-deo.html
What's the chance of having you make me one and ship to me for a fair price? I'm not ahndy with tools and my vision is poor. What would you charge shipped to 84337 zip code?
Hm. Post a message with a link to any website in it and your email address. The link to a website (like www.msn.com) keeps the message hidden to everyone but me.
Thoughtfully edited, clearly measured out, and clearly explained alcohol stove instructional.
My major challenge will be to find a full Foster's can in my fridge. 😅
The best, most organized demonstration demonstration I’ve seen of making an alcohol stove. I’m anxious to get to my bench. First, I have some Fosters to drink!
Newbie mistake!
You have to keep one can full for stretching the top part a bit with it ;) ... or just have an extra can of beer as most professionals do :)
I just made this stove, it is amazing! Your instructions and measurements are perfect. Best can stove video ever!
Thanks, idahomountainelk! Glad you found value in it and hope you get a chance to take it on an elk hunt.
Let's all take a second to appreciate this mans compass.
LOL! It's quite the machine. Thanks!
During the quarantine, I made a bunch of different beer can stoves... This is by far my favorite. Blooms fast, stable, does not need a stand and boils 2 cups in just over 3 min.
Great video!
Thanks, Gerard! I found the same thing and they are quick to make if you have a template and can cutting jig.
Nice workmanship. Much more sophisticated construction than many other can stoves.
Thanks, 1432CW. I like to keep things organized.
I made this stove and it works great! I used isopropyl alcohol and it took about 20min to boil 4 cups of tap water. I'm hoping denatured alcohol will burn hotter. this is a great video and explained everything very well. I diddnt have a jig but I placed my razor blade on some cd cases to cut my can. Great video!!
If you use HEET it burns a bit hotter and it's cheaper than denatured alcohol. It also burns clean with no oder.
Really great! Love your well-organized bench. I am a gunsmith now that I've retired from being a wildlife/wetlands biologist, and find that organizing the work area, and keeping it neat, really aides turning out good work. You truly are a "Jig Man" after my own heart.
I don't drink, never enjoyed the taste, but I do have several friends, so the Foster's won't go to waste. Six pack will give me a few of these, so my beer drinking buddies will also get a small alcohol stove for their efforts.
Please keep up the good work, and good videos. Surprised by the number of viewers who do not bother to click the "thumbs up" icon. I'll see if a few of my friends will click that "subscribe" button. Many thanks for taking the time to share your ideas and methods.
Thank you for the comments, Craig! They are always appreciated. I do have more videos planned, including some stove videos. It's always difficult to gauge how detailed to get in some of them. Could you work on a Nylon 66?
Have before, but not much goes wrong with them that basic maintenance can't take care of. They do need to be kept clean, especially the bolt face and the base of the barrel - chamber face. Stiff toothbrush and some good old Hoppe's #9. Parts available through Gunparts.com.
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May? Don't understand.
You should see my lab bench. I can just about locate things without looking, but you don't do that 😉I get greast efficiency that way.
Love how in depth you go. Awesome video, great stove design.
Thank you, Jack G! I appreciate the comments.
Thanks very helpful after a hurricane in the Caribbean
Hi J SANCHEZ, hope it comes in handy!
i literally JUST finished my foster's can stove build TODAY and hadn't seen your version yet. i built mine for a penny to seal, with steel wool for spill-resistance and thermal mass, and had totally forgotten to polish the bottom; i dig your included primer pan, i gotta burn a small leaf/needle fire to prime. i might just have to build a TimCan Foster's stove next!
Let me be the first to congratulate you then! I've never made a penny can stove. I'll have to try that. Thanks, J Garcia!
Worth to be watched and followed.
I really liked it.
We need such issues in Yemen where war situation and gas are more expensive than alcohol.
We can do that in simpler methods because we don't have all the tools you have.
Thanks
Thank you, Amer. I have planned an upcoming alcohol stove video where I will use only commonly available items and simpler methods as you suggest. I appreciate the reminder.
Pretty dope. Just made a penny can stove for the first time, and it's neat to see all these different designs out there.
Thanks! I've never made a penny can type.
I didn't even know these were a thing until last night. Worked fine when I tested with 70% isopropyl alcohol (all we had in the house) . I'm going to make this Fosters can type tonight actually... Should be fun on a bun. Plus I'm pretty sure my penny can will fit inside it so I can easily pack both at once.
I was mesmerised, I have to make one of these... maybe many!! thank you
Once you make one, there's no turning back.
Tim I really enjoy your videos. So thorough. Thanks for your information and hard work.
Thanks, Nowakezone! I appreciate that!
Followed the instructions with one exception...drilled 25 1/16th holes, cause I didn't have a 1mm drill bit. 1/16th inch = 1.6mm. Boiled four cups of water in 15 minutes from lighting. 75ml of denatured alcohol burned for 25 minutes. Flame pattern was perfect for the somewhat large pan I backpack with. Just a hint, don't force the entire stove top over the unopened Fosters can while trying to stretch it open. It will get stuck.
Thanks for the results, hecatesaga!
Since the way this thing functions is due to the outer chamber being pressurized, try not making such large holes or notches in the bottom of the outer chamber piece and only cutting scissor slits about 1/8" long.....the low viscosity of the Methyl Hydrate will certainly weep through the bottom and allow a higher inner chamber pressure. You may only need to make large access ports if you decide to seal the upper and lower contact points of the inner wall. I've made many of these stoves and never had a problem getting the flammable fumes into the outer chamber with no slits even cut and have had excellent pressure jets burning, making the entire project more efficient.....not being critical, just trying to assist in a point most makers of these stoves miss out...... sincerely K.W. BTW the penny stove is even better at producing higher pressure.....
Once it starts to bloom just place a pot on top it pressures the fuel to the outer wall.
I just did the fosters one easy to make, per your instructions, working perfectly
Great to hear, supercrew63. Thanks!
I like the way you use safety gloves for this purpose, no all wear it and is pretty sharp the can after making cuts.
Thank you, Luisa Xu. I've gotten enough little cuts on my fingers and didn't need any more.
Luisa Xu - Tim, when you use just one glove, doesn't the wear become uneven with the other glove? I mean, they are a "pair." IDK about you but that would bother me until I got the wear even again on both gloves. Just a thought....
I use the other glove for polishing can bottoms. That keeps my chakras aligned and my aura holistic.
Your other comment about using more accessible and inexpensive ways to make an alcohol stove motivated me to make a video where I make an alcohol stove using only commonly available tools. Thank you for the comment and the inspiration! - Tim
Here's the link to the video: ua-cam.com/video/Q8w7AlTKBi4/v-deo.html
I started a beer can stove business and I do it 4 nights a week 5th night I have a AA meeting .
Uh oh, I've been thinking of making a tent stove from a beer keg.
@@timcanthejigman7932 Tim that's like totally possible I have an extra keg I'm really think about doing that I thought about a smoker but he just changed my direction deer hunting heater stove sweet
You can also use the middle part of the can as a wind screen.
I like that. I might make a short video on it. Thanks, +thundersnowstorm!
You are welcome anytime. Punching holes would probably be a good idea as well with a hole puncher to make breather holes. :)
What are breather holes?
Breather holes are holes you can punch into the wind screen to allow air flow through the wind screen to prevent the alcohol stove from over heating.
Thank you Tim. Thanks to you and the others that do these stove videos, I have a new hobby.I've made several of the various types, penny, inner wall. I like the Foster's stove. I notice you make it the same height as the smaller ones. What if you made the stove taller? Would the only advantage be longer burn time? Haven't seen any taller than 1 1/2".
Thanks Chuck. The taller the stove, the less stable it could be. Low and wide means less chance of it tipping over but it could easily be made taller. The inner wall geometry would have to change with longer radii for both arcs. Have fun with your new hobby!
Thanks for replying. I have made 4 now. Only have 12 oz cans at the moment. I want to try the Fosters one. I also have a 5 ltr mini keg in the fridge. Wonder how that one would work?
The best thing to come out of a Foster's beer can.
I figure I save one life from drinking it for every stove I make.
Great detailed video. By chance have you tried cutting off the lids to those cans with those can openers that remove tin can lids without the sharp edges???, I forgot what those can openers are called but I believe they work by separating the lids at the seam on the main can body. Cut some of your cutting time down from 4 min to about 15 sec.
Thanks for sharing!
Kind regards, Eric Dee.
Hey Vacuum tube junky, I do know of the safety can openers and you are correct, they cut the seam and leave a rolled edge around the top. I have to cut down in the channel the way I do so that it leaves that lip that holds the inner wall in place. Thanks for the thought!
I'm going to make one of these too, but wow, just emptying the can is an adventure. I am enjoying it though.
I empty them down the sink. Your mileage may vary.
Pretty good geometry on that cone shape!
Thank you, Zhaoxun!
Cool shop, Tim!
Thanks! I think you can see most of it between all of my videos.
Great vid . Informative and well presented. Best wishes from N. E. Texas.
And best wishes to you from NW Missouri!
That was the best soda can stove I’ve ever seen, too precised.
Thanks, Daniel! I appreciate the comment.
The title should be "How to Make a *HIGH QUALITY* Alcohol Stove from a Fosters Beer Can"
Thanks so much, Supremo! I appreciate the comment!
Bottom: 1"
Holes: 1/2" from top, 25 ea.
Fosters 110ml
Hey, you're pretty handy to have around.
Great video, lots of info. Who makes your palm sized drill?
Thank you, Stone Manchek! It's a Dremel, sadly no longer made, but I did find a similar tool on Amazon made by Genesis.
@@timcanthejigman7932 ok, thank you.
I'll have to get some more Fosters beer for New Year's Eve...
TimCan is the MAN!!! Such a shame. All those alcohol stoves I wasted.
LOL, thanks v kesler! Think of all the future stoves you can make.
Not sure seems like special runs may be done for the export market.
Emu Export is from the Northern Territory famous for its big cans but hard to find in Sydney.
I'll have to check at Woodman's next time I'm in Wisconsin. If anyone would have it, they would.
Nice work. Best thing you can do with a can of Fosters...buy it, pour it down the sink, make a stove.
LOL. My thoughts exactly! I've never drank one, it all ends up down the sink.
I wonder what is the optimal height of an alcohol stove?
I've seen from other videos that the optimal distance from the flames to the can of water is between an inch to inch-&-quarter.
So I wonder can you build it taller, make the holes at about 1" to 1.25" below the top rim, make it taller so that enough fuel can be loaded under the holes, and would it still work properly?
Very good guild btw!
Thanks, Toni. A few things going on here. First, I'd want to see the methodology behind the experiments that were done to determine that an inch to inch and a quarter is optimal. And optimal at what: boiling faster, using less fuel? Second, I'm not in favor of adding height to any of my alcohol stoves since it makes them more tippy. Third, the position, size, location and number of jet holes determines the thermal feedback driving the stove. You don't want a configuration that over heats the stove and gives you a runaway boil.
I would advocate against changing the design unless you're prepared to spend a LOT of time testing in controlled conditions. Thanks for asking about this, that kind of thing interests me.
@@timcanthejigman7932 , optimal regarding boil time, assuming that the faster it boils generaly more efficient would be.
I'll send you the link when i find it.
Thanks for the quick response!
this is what you call a professional..
Thank you, xiao wei! I appreciate that.
neatly done
Thanks, Valentino!
Excellent stove production, and with minimal tools. Do you happen to have weights on each of the stoves? I know that when people are considering these stoves, they are wanting something light for backpacking. Either way, good job dude! I'll be making one of these after my next beer run!
Hey Josh, thanks for the nudge to get me to weigh all my stoves. I've been meaning to do that for some time anyway! These weights are for stoves using the dimensions from my videos: Foster's - 21g, juice can - 6g, mini can - 8g and the 12 oz can - 9g. Thanks for the comments!
Hi
if one can makes one stove I need to make about 18 of these thing on every Friday night.
you'll have to start drinking the dog-shit out of some Fosters!
ahh but only need to make um once, they are reusable after all
No 24 but the last one's don't look so sweet
After drinking the first two or three, the quality decreases exponentially! ;)
Jealous of your workspace. :) Was JUST thinking I would have to message you about a template (for the inner wall) and you made it for me, right then! Great video! Thanks!
Thank YOU, +tonysdroid!
Cool project.
Thank you, MDF RESCUER!
Great video thanks.
You're welcome! I hope you can make use of it.
15:28 - If add an extra ring with grooves around the inner wall (inside closed camera), this act like a wick and make bloom more fast.
Thank you, Sokol10, that sounds like a good idea. I'll try that with the next stove I make.
I love this it’s great but I just don’t understand why not leave the button a little taller and use only the top part of the can VS. using top bottom and middle parts.
Thanks, Thomas. I'm not sure I understand the question about a button. I use three parts to make up the stove so that it's a double wall design.
TimCan The Jig Man I’m sorry I meant to say bottom not button.
Really nice.
Thanks, Oldbatwit!
Hi Tim, I am hoping you will answer two questions for me. I have made a number of soda can burners. I want to narrow my work down two one or two styles. This, hopefully, will give me the best chance to create a good working stove.
1. Which one or two style of burner would you want to use?
2. Would an open top burner work better if it had a snug fitting lid, Or are they best left open.
3. Have you ever thought of uploading your templates? For the center wall for example? I would love to try your Fosters burner, but have not been able to get the pattern correct yet..
Thank you
Hi Janet. Thanks for your interest in learning from my videos.
1. I almost exclusively use this open top, side jet type of alcohol stove. I have videos showing how to make them from juice cans, mini cans, 12 oz cans and this Foster's one. The design is pretty bulletproof and easy to make. It only takes me about 10 minutes to make one.
2. You have to leave the top open initially so that the central flame can heat up the stove to start the alcohol vaporizing so it will come out the jets. Once the jets have bloomed, then you can put a pan directly on top to snuff out the central flame. No separate pot stand needed.
3. I was actually going to have templates for the different size cans online for download but it's so easy to simply draw two arcs with the correct radius. You could even do it with a pencil and piece of string.
Hello,
Do you use a support for the stove, or do you put the pot directly on it ?
Thank you very much for your answer.
Best regards.
All of my camping is in the winter so I use wire standoffs to hold the pot off the stove just enough that it eliminates thermal transfer from the cold pot to the warm stove. But the wire standoffs are thin enough that they don't let enough oxygen into the central burn chamber to keep a fire going there. Take a look at my vodeo on using an alcohol stove in very cold conditions: ua-cam.com/video/nPRU8V4Ltf8/v-deo.html
There shouldn't be a problem putting the pot directly on the stove in warm weather. You should NOT use a stove stand that holds a pot high enough for a fire to continue in the central burn chamber. That flame needs to be snuffed out by the pot.
@@timcanthejigman7932 It is very ingenious. Thank you very much for your answer
Very well done.
Thanks, BlaBlog101!
Wow!!! Really nice and very well done. Do you sell any of these as well?
Thank you, A Jr! No, I don't sell them. I'd rather teach a man to fish.
That was the excuse I was kind of waiting, to buy myself a nice bench drill and a new Proxxon. Santa better get busy this year, LOL. Thank you again for the awesome videos.
It's a thing of beauty! Thanks.....
Thanks, John! I appreciate the comment.
That really cool.
Thank you +Back Country Woodcraft! That means a lot coming from you!
or can you proved the measurements for other drinks cans like you did for the Fosters. Great vid and tutorial.
I can do that. I have a video showing how to make the templates and towards the end I give the measurements: ua-cam.com/video/T0lXg_sL02s/v-deo.html
Those American coke cans are huge!
No Coke cans were harmed in making this video.
Noice build. I guess U make a lot of these stoves
Thanks Graham! I've made my fair share.
@@timcanthejigman7932 I seen video after Ur and the guy said gas bottle stove are better. I think alcohol ones could be safer. If gas bottle blows could cause a bit damage. Fuel would easier to get hands on
They each have their advantages and disadvantages. A big advantage of soda can stoves is that they are basically free, which seems to motivate a lot of people.
Ok so you are the pop can stove master, you've waisted years of your life making these stoves. Awsome . Here's what I'm trying to build. I'm trying to build a double burner, so like a fosters on the outside with with a redbull on the inside, both burning at once. I have also had good luck with JB weld holding stuff together
can you mail the 3 paper traced patterns of your inter wall reducers templates please.
A PAINFUL REMINDER TO STASH THE CAN IN A FIRST AID KIT ! AHH GOTTA LUV BUSHCRAFT IN THE OUTBACK !
How do you calculate the radius of the curve of the inner wall?
Good question! I have a video showing how: m.ua-cam.com/video/T0lXg_sL02s/v-deo.html
Excellent
Thanks, Fox Fox!
If you can afford to buy a locking knob for your cutting jig, at what point do you just buy a hiking camping stove?
Depends on how many stoves you plan to make. I've made hundreds
I'm curious if there is a benefit to using a top and bottom instead of 2 bottoms; 2 bottoms would give rectangular inner walls and so be easier to make. As an added benefit you would have an excuse to drink 2 beers.
I see a benefit in the economy of using just one can for one stove. You can still drink two beers, but then you get to make two stoves. If you use two bottoms, you have to cut out the center section of one of them and I find that to be more difficult than using a template to cut a curved inner wall using a top and bottom.
There is usually more than one way to do something, though, and they can all work.
ok i am having trouble. when you cut the nick in the inner wall and bend it over, how exactly do you do it. i messed up on 3 of the inner walls i cut out,for three can stoves im making. it seems to come undone easy doesn't stay put, to well. help me out please and thanks.im going to have to cut out a few more inner walls but i dont want to mess up this time.
After I cut a small nick where the two ends overlap, I fold up little triangular corners - that locks it in place long enough for the stove to go together. I fold one triangle to the inside and the other triangle to the outside so they fold in opposite directions just the way the scissors starts to bend them. Take a look at 14:00 in this video: ua-cam.com/video/iVJeEbMEBEw/v-deo.html
My local DollarTree has "peace tea" in 24 ounce cans- it's only $1.
Is that the same size as a Fosters can? That would be way more cost effective.
ok, Tim, great video, and I have not seen anywhere where you have offered any to your subscribers, for a price of course, DO YOU?????
I've said before, I'd rather teach a man to fish. I would feel guilty selling something that is basically free to make. That's why I show so much detail, so people can make their own and get good results. I appreciate the thought!
Marty Smith I can make this for you. $50.00 American
JAWGA ... lol time is money
Can you show some economic tools to do this project?
Luisa Xu - if u do not have a drill, carfully make the holes with a push pin or nail. Can use any knife or blade with a spacer taped on , to make cuts
Now I have an excuse to drink more beer.
It's 10:00 AM somewhere.
Awesome!
Thanks, jeffrey!
Seems like I did everything right but I'm still not getting any flames from the holes coming out 🤔😧 no matter how much I put in alcohol, lots or a little bit, still nothing.. does it it matter the height of the stove and the holes for the flames? Something is not right somewhere
This is a pretty forgiving design as far as hole size and spacing, height, etc. Still, there are some limits. The height of the stove affects the ability for flames to form. The taller the stove, the more mass there is and therefore, it's harder for the initial central flame to heat it up to the point of ignition of the jets. Also, quality of fuel. Only use Heet or denatured alcohol. Don't use anything with "iso" in the ingredient list or name.
I tried this but couldn't get past the part where I emptied the beer can
Keep trying until you reach the desired effect.
Is there a size limit for the stove? Most are about an inch tall (knife held on a 2x4) but can you go to 2 or 3 inches tall?
There will be a point of diminishing returns going too tall. The flame coming out the jets has to keep the stove hot enough to continue vaporizing the fuel. If it's too tall, there's too much metal too far away to keep the stove properly hot. Also, the taller it is, the more tippy it becomes. I wouldn't make it 3 inches tall.
Love the stove and technique. Pity about the Fosters can size though. You'd think that Fosters, starting out in Australia, and iconic with Paul Hogan (Crocadile Dundee etc), would be available here. Nobody drinks it, and when I was at a party in the States many years ago they got Fosters in my honour and I had to be polite and drink it, but sorta like Bill Clinton (did not enjoy). Anyway, impossible to buy those cans in Oz. Pity because I think your design is fantastic.
Thanks for showing me the jigs though. I know that viewers love the viseo in the US. As I say, pity we can't get that sized can here. I'd love to make one.
Hey Col Rodrick, too bad you can't get Fosters but there are other cans the same size I can get here in the States. Nothing like that in Oz? Anymore, when I'm out in the woods, that's the one I take just for the amount of alcohol it holds and for the wider stance.
Glad to hear you appreciated it! It sounds like you've already discovered that I have videos of using other type cans with the same end in mind, just smaller in size.
Thanks again!
@@timcanthejigman7932 I think I must have discovered you some time in the past when I was suffering insomnia (which is what afflicts old buggers like me; either that or I fall asleep in the chair - so best of both worlds eh?) and thought that's a great channel. I'll go back and binge watch his other stuff.
I do like the larger can size. Still weigh 2/5 of nothing so no big deal and not terribly large either. I went on line to see if anything like that size was available here - there are 500ml cans I've bouhgt in the past Sapporo beer from Japan come like that and I think I've bought Heineken half liter too. But 700 odd ml? Not a size I can find at all.
Anyway, thanks again for the excellent video.
Precision.
Thanks for noticing!
How did you determine the 8 and 9.5 inch radii for the inner wall template?
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I see you found the video where I show how to do that. Thanks for the question, Matthew!
@@timcanthejigman7932 thank you for the good video
Could you make these and leave them Burning as a Source of heat.
It wouldn't be very efficient as a heater. Not enough mass in the aluminum to radiate much of anything and the flames don't last long enough to contribute anything.
How do you snuff these burners out?
Typically, upend a pot over it to deprive it of oxygen.
Where did you get that dremel tool I cant find it anywhere.
Sadly, they've been discontinued and are now collector items.
Do you have any recomendations for a newer dremel that would work for drilling tiny holes like that?
@@hollyfoutz4291 Just about any of them work for that. If you like that pistol grip form, Dremel makes an add-on pistol grip that you can attach to any of their tools that have a nose bumper that unscrews. Search for Dremel tool and Dremel pistol grip. Big box hardware stores should have them in stock.
Long Drawn But Funny FUN,,,,,,, Wicked Bruva Stove Maker
LOL, thank goodness for Google translate. Thanks buddy!
@timcanthejigman is a 1/16 bit ok to use? whats a 54 bit?
It sure is. A #54 bit is .0550 inches in diameter, a 1/16 is .0625 inches. Close enough.
@@timcanthejigman7932 man, i was just about to buy some bits online, then i seen your comment, thanks for saving me some cash, and thanks for your videos!
@@timcanthejigman7932 i for got to mention im using a can stove stand and my pot is about an inch from the flames.
Just asking, for the fuel, is it 70% alcohol or it's always 90% ?
If not okay for 70%, how do I make it work ?
Hi Goo Zion, in the US I use denatured alcohol (99.99% ethanol) or HEET gas line antifreeze (99.99% methanol). You may be able to find denatured alcohol where you buy paint.
lots of wasted fuel burns in the middle? i tried using the bottom of a fooster can, cut out with a hole(i may have made the hole too big, i think i need to make it smaller hole in the center of the can for oxygen flow. basically i want the flames to mostly come out of the the pilot holes, but i know it needs oxygen to burn. trying to figure out and an Efficient way to control the flames. i have a simmering ring that i made from a footers can but i haven't tried to use it. im not trying to simmer yet im just trying to control the middle flame.
These stoves are designed for the pot to sit right on the stove with no gap. That snuffs out the center flame so it isn't just wasted fuel.
@@timcanthejigman7932 holy shit. ok. i wasted a lil to much time on this stand then.thats makes thing easier. thanks for the quick reply
is it safe to cook for 30-40 mins continuously. do i need to take any precautions while cooking with this stove?
I've never had an issue using any alcohol stove I've made. For precautions, I make sure I'm aware of where the stove is at all times so I don't accidentally bump into it or knock it over. Spilled flaming alcohol would be unsafe.
at footage timeline 10:17 how you set the diameter of circle (the distance between the point that generate the circles) ?
I explain it better in the video where I show how to make the inner wall template here: m.ua-cam.com/video/T0lXg_sL02s/v-deo.html
I see you've found that video.
ei qual é a marca da segunda latinha. que eu vejo que sim caixa. a primeira é Pepsi agora a minha dúvida é a segunda. eu faço eu queria. uma meio de não corta o encaixo. por tanto. a segunda latinha. pelo o que eu vejo dá Francisco Fortaleza CE
Agradeço o vídeo! 👍✌
You skipped the step where you drink the beer!
D'oh! I knew I forgot something!
John Hanley - Tim never forgets anything. "The Proper Way to drink a Foster's Beverage" (part 1 & 2) are listed in alphabetical order and can be found in Archives. Tags - Alcohol Stove, Foster's, drinking, aluminum can, and rehydrate.
How long will they burn before running out.
Good question. It depends on how many and how large the holes are but the way I made mine, 100 ml of denatured alcohol will burn for about 40 minutes or more. It also depends on having a pot resting on the rim of the stove so that alcohol doesn't burn or evaporate in the center.
Nice
Thanks, Fariborz!
Does it have to be Foster's? Should I drink a multitude of varieties just to test which beer cans make the best burner? You know, for science?
And be sure to drink several of each kind until you're happy with the result.
Can you cook on this stove
You bet. Here are three videos from the Davis West channel showing just that.
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Thank you for tutorial 🇲🇨👍👉
My pleasure!
ما اسم المادة السائلة التي تسكبها داخل القنينة
Which liquid are you referring to?
What's the chance of having you make me one and ship to me for a fair price? I'm not ahndy with tools and my vision is poor. What would you charge shipped to 84337 zip code?
Hm. Post a message with a link to any website in it and your email address. The link to a website (like www.msn.com) keeps the message hidden to everyone but me.
Looks great but metric is your friend!
Thanks but what is this "metric" of which you speak?
Fosters is supposed to be Australian.
I havnt seen a can of Fosters in years.
Rather drink Carlton draught.😃
Does it still come in a keg can?
how to turn it off?
The typical way to turn it off is by upending a pot over the stove to cut off its oxygen supply.
Use a p38
Use acetone to remove paint no finishing needed shiny
That's a great tip, talha! I'll have to try it. Scrubbing the paint of can get tedious.
Chimney in, thank you...
You're welcome!
The worst part of this is having to drink Fosters to make one!
You don't intend to actually drink one, do you? You're on your own there, kidda74.