Quick Tip 185 - What About Liquin?
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- Artist/Art Teacher Dianne Mize receives several questions about the use of different mediums while painting. In Quick Tip 185 she gives insight into the use of Liquin by Winsor & Newton.
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Thank you so much! This helped me a ton!!! Especially the last tip about not using it to thin thick paint!
My pleasure.
Thank you, DIanne, I saw a bottle of Liquin just today in the store and wondered about it and also heard someone speak of it today online so your video is very timely! It was very helpful to see you actually mix color with it.
It's called serendipity. 😊
After half an hour of searching around how to use my Liquin I found this video. Thanks so much for the very clear explanations Dianne! You've just made yourself a new fan^^
You're very welcome!
You are amazing Dianne. I have a Master's Degree in painting, but I always learn new things from you. Thank you for your clear and concise explanations of techniques and materials.
Thanks.
You are an exceptionally good teacher - all very helpful - topics always brought to the point, without annoying music, thanks for your many good tips
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
Dianne thank you so much for your amazing teaching. Coming from water colour and gouache to oil I was very nervous and felt like I could no longer paint but through your videos I’ve learnt so much and I really will be forever great full for that
The medium is not necessarily the message, as Marshall McCluen claimed decades ago. Transitioning from one medium to another can expand your horizons in painting. It's just learning a new technique, but the principles of composing (mixing color, placing shapes, balancing, etc.) are universal.
Thank you for the information! This provided the insight I needed, since I’m currently learning/testing new mediums. 😊
Great. Have fun with this.
Another topic that is often confusing, very well explained. Simple but comprehensive at the same time. Thanks for these most helpful quick tips. 8 min chocked full of useful material. Thanks so much Dianne.
My pleasure. Thanks so much for watching.
@Diane Mize I wish you were my teacher in school. Your kindness and grace come through in everything you do. Thanks for sharing your gifts.
Wow, thank you!
Thank you for that you explain thoroughly instead of assuming we already know obvious steps. As a very beginning beginner I appreciate that so much! Your an amazing teacher. Thank you for illustrating each step.
You're very welcome! Thanks for watching.
Hi, really like all the tips you show, as I am fairly new to oil painting I find your channel the go to channel and look for previous tips etc. Thank you very much for the help you give.
Thanks for watching.
Thank you for this , I don’t work with liquin often and forgot some of my technique using it but watching your video helped me so much !
Thanks for watching.
Thank you for sharing your expertise. It helped me.
That's good to know. Thanks for watching.
THANK YOU AGAIN DEAR DIANNE AND GOD BLESS...
As always, it's a pleasure.
Great explanation! Painted with it today and i really enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing
Great to hear! Keep enjoying the journey.
Thank you for your time on this.
My pleasure.
Such a useful tutorial. I was exactly looking for liquin mixing with titanium white and clicked first on ur tutorial which has given me so much clarity. Thank you, u look lovely in white shirt 🥰
My pleasure 😊
So so helpful :) plus she’s so soothing to listen too
Thanks for watching.
Thanks very much. You have clarified the mystery of liquin for me.
Great.
You are the very best of the best art teachers.
Wow, thank you!
Great presentation. Thank you
You bet.
Thanks so much Teacher Dianne, all my doubts were gone with your helpful instructions. I have the liquin original, and I will use it to make a portrait with the glazing method.
I'm delighted my teaching is helping dispel your doubts. All it takes to dispel doubts is knowledge and that's what I'm hoping to give with these Tips.
@@IntheStudioArtInstruction thank you so much teacher, greetings from Paraguay. I would like to show you my artwork when I finish, with glazing technique using liquin, may I send you a pic by email? If you want, of course
Thankyou, a great tutorial and very well demonstrated, you have just solved a problem for me with that. I have just subscribed to you as well. Once again, thankyou, I look forward to viewing some of your other tutorials.
Thank you for your valuable advices
My pleasure.
Thank you Dianne! Quick, clear and covered the most important info. I’m starting my first ever oil painting class in May and I’m in the process of painting the undersurface of my glass pallet with 3 shades of grey (dark, Medium and then light) in thirds. It seems to take forever to dry! Maybe this is normal. I also have a small bottle of Liquin Original and wondered how to use it to speed up the drying process. Now I know!
Glad it was helpful!
That was amazing, thank you!
You bet!
Oh thank you for explaining the use of Liquin! (And thanks for the viewer’s question!)
Viewer's questions make this Quick Tip adventure work. My pleasure to do them.
Thank You, very helpful.
My pleasure.
Very Interesting, I'm always looking for something New. THANK YOU.
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
Awesome video! Thank you!
Thanks for watching.
Helpful! Thanks for posting.
You're welcome!
Great video! Super useful info on liquin thanks!
Great. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for all the useful information
My pleasure.
Thank you for explaing this! Really helpful :).
Happy painting.
What a nice lady, thanks for the great lesson.
😊
Excellent explanation missus 😉
Thank you again for your helpful videos.
As long as folks find these helpful, I'll keep doing them.
My pleasure.
I love liquin! For my first few years of oil painting I used only solvent and liquin. It’s one of the only things to make drying faster and I adore the glazing. Sometimes I also apply clear liquin to areas of the painting that I want to be extra shiny.
Be careful with adding too much Liquin. It's purpose is to facilitate drying, but too much of it can yellow your passages of paint.
Have you tried Liquin Glazes in conjunction with layers of Retouch Varnish?
Thank you so much!!! It’s very helpful ❤️
You're so welcome!
Would you please do an ocean with waves and rocks and shore . ✌️👍 your videos are the best to learn , I appreciate you taking your time 🙏
Mehdi, I will put your request on our schedule.
Thank you Dianne.. Aloha 🤙
You are so welcome
Thank you Dianne. I needed to add a signature to an otherwise completely dry painting. I used a bit of liquin to the oil paint and the signature was dry to the touch by next morning. How much time should I give it before varnishing the entire paining?
For the Liquin, a week should be plenty of time.
Thanks Dianne, I recently started to use Liquin and I find it to be really useful for drying the paint and for glazing. I tend not to use it when I paint skies and water as I prefer to let the paint dry slowly so that if I want to go back to the subject in the first 24 hours I can still continue to add paint and blend it in.
I use it sparingly, too, Kevin--only when I need areas to dry more quickly.
Thankyou once again Dianne.
I understand you wouldn’t use liquin as a drying medium for acrylics, but could you use it as a glaze with acrylics.
(No Charlie today)
That sounds okay. I've never thought of using liquin for glazing over acrylics, but I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work as long as the paint is thoroughly dry.
(Fortunately, Charley was napping during this one.)
Thank you! This was very helpful :)
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
Always so informative. Now I get it ...lol... thank you so much for explaining this . Your amazing 😍😍❤
Thanks.
MOST HELPFUL!!
So glad!
Thanks Dianne!!
My pleasure.
Thank you very much ...great information
My pleasure.
Dianne, thanks very much for the tip. If it is useful to your audience, the way I normally use liquin is by adding only the tip of my palette (3-5 drops perhaps) to my mixes of turpentine and linseed oil (respectively and by stage in parts 1:0, 2:1, 1:1, 1:2, 0:1-- fat over lean rule) these 5 ml in total. With those mixes I go for the particular paint consistency (texture) I need. In this way paint mostly "dries" overnight.
Cheers and thanks again.
Thanks, fb.
FB, may I ask what type of paint you are adding you mixture to?
The paints I generally use are Winsor and Newton, and M Harding, other brands too. This mixes of turps / oils (one or two drops at most) only to attain a certain buttery consistency and overall homogeneity of paint texture and drying time. The quintessential aspect of academic oil painting is gradually build up fat (linseed oil %) over lean (turpentine %) layers. Some paints, like titanium white are rather thick and stiff and require more. Sometimes one wants precisely thickness and stiffness, for example for dry brush techniques. Other times, runny and almost watery, for an initial staining. This does not apply to alla prima: with this overall paint consistency, no turps, no dessicants, perhaps retardants, only linseed oil or no extra oil. All in one go, two to three working days, and let it dry. Good fun and better luck 🤞
fb pliegorrivero FB ...I am new to the ratio part. What exactly are you referring to with these. And are you adding liquin to each..if so how much. For us new painters in oil I would be very appreciative for a more thorough explanation. Thank you for sharing.
So very helpful, thank you!
You're so welcome!
Very helpful, thank-you!
My pleasure.
Thank you for explaining this so clearly so very helpful.
I have two questions for you : First what do you have in the pot attached to your easel that you dip your brush to remove the paint before you use it again? Secondly your palette has a thick boarder of various colours that seem never to dry and you seem to use the paint so sparingly ... how do they not harden beyond use please. I find even after an hour or two my colours on my palette will dry before I have finished using them. With very best wishes Gill
I explain the colors that stay on the palette at the beginning of Quick Tip 115 - ua-cam.com/video/RORenwUXMDI/v-deo.html . They remain there from one session to the other and yes, they do dry, but they are there for reference. I put fresh paint out for each session.
I use Turpenoid mineral spirits to keep my brushes rinsed while working.
Thank you very much!! 🙏🙏 You are a treasure!!
You're very welcome!
Thank you so much that was easy and simple explanation ♥️♥️
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much for this
Wonderful. Thanks for watching.
Wonderful channel 💞
Thanks.
I am going for a matte finish on my work. I didn't realize the gloss I would get with Liquin. Someone suggested that I do a turp rub after the painting was dry and I did that and was very happy that it put a nice flat velvety look to the work. I do geometric abstracts. I like to work with thin glazes and someone suggested that I squeeze out my paint on to cardboard to remove some oil and then thin it with turp (no liquin) to get the consistency and flat sheen which I did on my next work. but it is sitting there two weeks later and the first layer is still very sticky. So, can I use a combination of turp and liquin to thin my paint or can I now do a layer of just liquin over top of those wet layers to speed up the dry time now that the paint is already down? (new to oil painting). Thank you for your time and tips.
Jude, be careful who you take advice from. Turp is a solvent and when used alone weakens the integrity of oils which can cause the painting's surface to be vulnerable. I suggest you go over to the Gamblin website ( gamblincolors.com/tips-and-techniques/ ) and thoroughly go through their discussions about mediums. You might find a matte medium that will be safe to use.
Also, it's chancy to apply just liquin between layers because that could cause cracking of the surface later on.
Just discovered this channel. This lady is incredibly charming.
Thanks. Welcome aboard.
Thank you so muchhh Ma'am it was insightful! I still have a doubt, is it okay to run the liquin as in glaze over a finsihed painting??
The manufacturers say no. There's still a lot to learn about Liquin since it is a relatively new medium, not yet given the test of time that other mediums like linseed oil have been given.
Good info! Thank you!
My pleasure.
Very helpful!! Thank you!
You're welcome!
I have used Liquin for years as I paint in very thin layers, I love it because the paint is dry enough to add another layer the next day, I also use the fine detail Liquin when needed. They also do an impasto version which allows thick impasto layers to dry quickly too.
Thanks for this input.
Have you tried using Liquin glazes with added layers of Retouch Varnish?
Great Video dianne:) Can I use liquin for glazing over a painting I painted straight out the tube and that is dry to the Touch after a few days? Or will that cause cracking, because the glaze with liquin drys faster that the paint underneath?
Have a nice Day and thanks for your Videos:)
Max, it depends upon how thick your paint is. If it is heavily impasto, then you do run the risk of future cracking, but it was done in a consistent, relatively smooth single layer, it will probably be okay.
Great video! i have one question: is liquin safe to use without opening any windows? Personally the fumes don't bother me but i don't know if its dangerous or toxic for my health. I cant really open any windows, is there any substitutes for liquin that are safer if liquin is toxic?
It's best to use Liquin in good ventilation, however the small amounts you use should not be harmful. The only other medium similar to Liquin is Gamblin's Galkyd, but it has a stronger odor than Liquin does. Here's a link to Winsor & Newton's Safty Data Sheet on Liquin - www.winsornewton.com/assets/HealthandSafetyDataSheets/OIL%20COLOUR/Oil%20Mediums/Liquin/04412205.pdf
Thank you so much for this lesson,, ive learned how to use liquin original
You’re welcome 😊
Thank you for the very good lesson very helpful
You bet!
Wonderful ❤️🙏🏾
Thanks.
you're terrific !
Thanks
Many thanks for your tutorial help I learnt a lot from it
You are welcome! Thanks for watching.
Hello Diane, I will admit that I have used the liquin by dipping into it during use. It I'm using a good amount of paint though, it's not mixed in unless I'm doing that on the canvas. You say it can take a week for paint to dry otherwise. The work has to sit that long? Is there not a sweetspot where it's dry enough? And can linseed oil be used with the liquin? Thx
Paul, oil paint oxidizes rather than evaporates. Add to that--various tube colors dry at different rates. Linseed oil is the preferred binder in oil paint, so adding more doesn't speed up the drying. But Liquin is catalyst that speeds up the oxidation. Colbalt dryer will do this, too.
Thanks for exploring my favorite medium! I like it a lot. However some believe that it changes the essence of oil because it's derived from alkyds. I don't know if it's true or not, but a problem that happens to me is severe various amounts of shin and of course oiling out isn't much of a help. Can I have your advice? Thank you so much 🌷ps. Missed Charlie 😁
Mosio, I depend upon the advice of conservators and chemists. According to them, alkyd (made from soybean oil) is compatible with linseed oil which is the binder for most oil paints. Prior to the formulation of alkyd, damar varnish was used as a drying/glazing agent. Alkyd actually gives strength and flexibility to the paint whereas the damar became brittle and darkened with age.
I suspect your oiling out is caused by adding too much medium while painting. My advice is to use only paints that are creamy enough out of the tube to move easily on the canvas and to pull back on adding mediums while painting. If it's quicker drying you want, it takes very little Liquin.
(Charley was napping during this filming.)
Thanks again for your time and appreciate your answer. I think I use too much of it for drying. 🌷
Thanks for the info. Is it possible to use liquin with oil paint & block printing medium for use on linocut blocks? I’m working on reduction printing but finding that each layer dries very slowly when I use oil paint & block printing medium. Very frustrating! Thanks for your help.
For block printing I've done, I always used block printing inks which are designed to be compatible with block pringint so I hesitate to try to answer your question, but I suspect Liquin could be used to facilitate drying. HOWEVER, you'd have to be sure to thoroughly clean your blocks after each run because once Liquin dries, it is impossible to clean it. My better judgement wants to advise you switch to the block printing inks rather than use oil paint.
Thanks a lot for this Dianne! Can I ask if it’s safe to use linseed oil + turpentine mixture, on top of a layer that was done with Liquin Original? The layer that with liquin has dried for about 3 days now. Hope you could help. Thank you!
I think so, but I wonder why you want to switch to linseed oil + turps.
@@IntheStudioArtInstruction Thanks a lot for the response! It's only my first time to use Liquin, and noticed that it dries too fast for me. I think I'm not that fast enough of a painter. Also, the paint on my palette dries really quick, even before I use them all up. I think it's such a waste of paint that way.
Thank you so much😘
You're welcome 😊
Thank you, you helped me. You’re such an adorable lady if I must say.
Thanks for that.
You’re welcome!
Thank you so much .. I love you
Welcome 😊 And thanks.
How long should one wait before switching mediums? Lean vs fat? Hours? Days? And how does a painting that takes days/weeks months differ with an allá prima style painting when it comes to techniques, and medium use??!! Thanks!!
helpful tip, did not know about liquin until I saw this video
And now you do. 😊
I am learning plein air painting would you suggest using liquin in first stages and then use thicker paint I am used to glazing with liquing but plein air is tricky!
Lee, I suggest using no medium at all, especially in plein air. It is not necessary unless your paint is too stiff or if you need an area to dry more quickly.
I truly cannot wait till you have a zoom workshop on a Saturday...I miss out because I work 😶
Dinese, I will throw this out to our team.
would linseed oil be a better option for glazing when you didnt used liquin for the underpaint you glaze on? i ask because the fat over lean "rule" since wouldnt the liquin glaze dry faster then the oil colors under it or does it just affect the touch dry status but the overall drying time kinda stays the same.
The jury is still out on that question. Fat over lean refers primarily to paying in layers rather than direct painting. Also, if the paint applications are thicker, linseed oil slightly thinned with an artist grad solvent is the safest bet.
Can a liquin glaze be used over an oil painting that has dried for a month or so but isn't fully cured? I haven't used any mediums on the painting other than linseed oil up to this point.
I'm not really sure about that, John. There is a risk that, since Liquin dries so fast, it could cause cracking of not-quite-cured layers underneath. But don't take that one to the bank.
Very helpful.
Can you touch on using galkyd as a medium to glaze, and also, how do you clean your brushes without using turpoids, I've been trying out Murphy's oil soap
Please see Quick Tips 249, 160 and 7. I think these three answer your questions, mostly.
Galkyd is Gamblin's version of Liquin. It is a synthetic resin that facilitates fast drying. As a glaze medium, it works just like Liquin.
@@IntheStudioArtInstruction thank you so much
Thanks great tips
You bet!
So, then if I mainly used linseed oil to thin my paint, and when I'm done painting, can I now after a few days, start to glaze using liquin? Wouldn't the faster drying liquin seal off my painting underneath from drying further at slower rate? This is what still confuses me.
Thank you for your video's!
Technically, glazing is best done when underneath layers are dry. If those layers are thick, that requires a long time. To be safe, if you are using Liquin, it would be safer to use it all the way through for both thinning paint layers and glazing.
Does this stuff turn yellow over time ? I have seen other manufacturers similar products that look a lot lighter as they are safflower oil based.
Paul, Liquin is alkyd based. Alkyd is formed from soybean oil. Any slight darkening over time is not noticeable any more than with linseed oil which, as you know, is the binder for most oil paints.
I've done a few decent oils flipping from watercolor. I couldn't for the life of me remember that it was liquin that gave me the drying time I prefer. A couple questions. I have a bottle that seems to have separated. Can it be revived? The top layer in the bottle is hard, perhaps dried out permanently. Secondly I note the piles of paint on your palette. How often do you add to that or remove it. I have seem artists with piles 3 inches tall. It must have something to do with the fact that oil takes a long time to dry, thus the surface of the glob let's say, remains useful. I take it you dedicate this pochade to oils. Thx again.
Paul, Liquin cannot be reconsituted. Best, I think, to discard that bottle and get a fresh one.
Hello Dianne,
Being a retired man, I've been filling a lot of my time with building and painting models and dioramas, but just 2 weeks ago, I decided that I wanted to try something new...painting with oils. The last time I used oils was when I was 16 during my school art lessons. I saw mentioned on another video about the benefits of using Liquin medium, so I ordered a bottle at the same time I ordered an easel, paints, brushes, canvasses, pallette knives etc, but when I received the bottle, yesterday, I became concerned about the health warnings on the rear of the bottle....harmful if breathed in, requiring lots of ventilation, washing the skin for 5 minutes if there is contact with the skin, and, even fatal if accidentally ingested. What are your feelings about these warnings, and, is there a safer alternative medium to use? Thanks in advance for any advice you might offer.
Martin.
Martin, a lot of artists' materials contain similar labeling. These days there are laws requiring it. As with working with any material that is not made specifically for personal care or eating, I'd say just be smart rather than fearful. I've used Liquin for decades with no ill effects.
Hello Dianne,
Thank you for your timely response, greatly appreciated. I’ve laid my base colors down for my first painting and will be back at my easel on Wednesday to add my next layers, wherein I’ll be trying out Liquin for the first time. I shall take caution but look forward to seeing how it works.
Thanks,
Martin
I love it.
Thanks.
Thank you so much
My pleasure.
Could I also use an opaque colour like Yellow Ocher or Cad. Red and add a bit more liquin to it to glaze with it?
If you want your glazing to be transparent, then it's better to use transparent colors. Opaque colors, when thinned with medium, reveal particles of paint within the glaze.
You are so adorable and nice explanation. 👏🏾
Ah, thanks.
Hello, Could you please tell me, what if you place a glaze with liquin over a kind off a thick layer of paint? Does it get cracked?? Or does liquin prevends precisely this?
Really enjoy your videos, thank you.
I don't really know the answer to that. A lot depends upon how thick the underlayer is and how long it's been dry. Even though Liquin has been on the market since the 1970's, we still don't have a real long-term time-test on it. Unlike some of the mediums used for centuries, there's still a lot about Liquin's long term durability that we don't know.
What we do know is that is creates a chemical reaction with the binder in the oil paint that speeds up the drying.
@@IntheStudioArtInstruction I see, thank you very much :D
just bought this and i was thinking of returning it because i am not sure how to dispose of it. Do you just throw away paper towels that have it? What about the cups of water that have liquin in them because of putting your paint brush in it? Can i pour it down the drain or do i pour it in a trash can or wipe the inside of the cup with paper?
Liquin is an alkyd based medium designed for use with oil paints. It is not water soluble. You use it like any other painting medium, but its advantage is that it enables fast drying. Never pour it down the drain. Please Google "Liquin" for a complete discourse.
Thank you,I enjoyed your video alot.i am a beginner,but it doesn't matter.i create and paint what I feel.and I love it alot.thank you,I will go to your web site.😁🌟👍
Wonderful!
Thankyou for your helpful videos kind regards jas
My pleasure.
I've seen a few UA-cam videos where an artist puts down a very thin layer of pure/straight Liquin before applying a paint layer. Perhaps you can explain this use?
This practice is a spinoff of Bob Ross' wet in wet method. I'm probably too much of a traditionalist to be objective about this method. I don't trust it being archival.
Thank you!
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