Bon Bon's brother being named Pony wouldn't surprise me when Meadowlark's (Clover's sister) husband is named Cheval (litteraly just horse in french) Also the diaper fetish theory might be true, the same writer from shop talk also wrote an episode of super mario bros 3 where Mario and Luigi get turned into babies
I have an addition!: The Swedish dub has a part that basically endorses anorexia, in the song where one of the characters is going to be a princess they say “You shouldn’t eat more of those, you should be thin!” In the original it was something like “you don’t want them, give them to me!” I have absolutely no idea why this was added but oh my god it did
It’s in the episode Princess Problems: Bon Bon’s line is, “You don’t want these jelly beans: give ‘em all to me”, since six of the friends are preparing Patch to meet the royal parents
I think the reason ‘Sweet Music’ sounds so familiar is because it’s a completely different style from the rest of the songs in the series. The other songs have more of a late 80’s/early 90’s style, while ‘Sweet Music’ sounds similar to a lot of 50’s pop/rock songs. As pinkie pie says, Just a hunch.
In some older movies and tv shows, the guys who thought they were tough were obsessed with their hair and we're always flinging black styling combs around. I think it originates from the movie version of Grease where Danny Zuko and the T-Birds do that. Originally they were going to have knives but the sensors at the time thought that would be inappropriate and changed it to Combs. But I can kind of see Teddy as having a secret aspiration to be a barber or men's hairdresser.
I swear I've seen a character model sheet for MLP Tales (can't recall where) that was meant to show the animators the proportions of an adult pony compared to the protaogonist ponies compared to a baby pony (toddler) etc, and it did have a separate character model for Bon Bon and notes in the margin about her being chonkier than the other ponies. The strange thing is that visually her character model is barely any different from the other characters. Like it's the TINIEST difference.
i love your videos they're great, though the only nitpick i have is that you don't play the audio of what topic you're talking about like the stock laugh or clover saying fortune that sounds like 4chan (unless it's to avoid copyright issues which is completly understandable)
I love to see content about MLP that isn’t just G4, MLP has always been a comfort show for me ever since I was a kid watching those old 80’s MLP movies and it’s cool to hear people talk about the earlier stuff
MLP Tales makes me nostalgic. I had an entire month of my life at the age of five where all I would watch was The Care Bears Movie II on repeat, so it reminds me of that style of animation and time period.
I think its because the show was the first exspance to the characters having distinct and complex personalities. The original had some of that as does G3 but tales has a lot more of it. In original G1 and G3 the ponies had personalities but there were massive numbers of them with the same or very similar personalities, tales focus on less main characters made them able to flesh the main characters out. Something they perfected by FIM and could apply it to more characters.
it feels super nice to see people talk about pre G4 mlp content. as a G1 nerd I love it :] also yr videos rock!!! they're all rlly well done and fun to watch
So that song, "Sweet Music," reminds me of half of the Grease Soundtrack, especially with the instrumentals. Also, parts of the melody are strikingly similar to the song "Freckles," which is the opening theme song for Rorouni Kenshin. (The original Japanese version is called "Sobakasu")
Just wanted to say for the Bon Bon has diabetes theory, that’s not how it works. Type 1 diabetes is your body isn’t able to produce insulin, so when your blood sugar gets high (usually after you eat something), you have to get a shot of insulin to lower it back down. The only time you need to eat is if your blood sugar gets low and even then you don’t need to eat as much as Bon Bon does. What she most likely would have is hypoglycemia. Source: my boyfriend has type one diabetes
Hot take : This was my favorite older gen series. The characthers are fun and relatable-espeically Bon Bon for me AS kid. I always related to her so much.
It felt so easy to get back into mlp watching your videos. Something about this video just has a comforting presence that reminds me of why i liked mlp in the first place
In terms of watching past gen mlp shows, i've only seen bits and pieces of My Little Pony Tales, i mean i think i've only watched like 3 or 4 episodes, but that was it.
I grew up on this show. All I had was the vhs recordings my mom had made until I was able to get a dvd series a few years ago. I actually teared up because I hadn’t seen a non scketchy bootleg copy since I was little.
Patch could be a sorta symbolic meaning. Maybe it means that she has to live with what she could, which makes sense because her broth parents are unknown and she’s adopted.
I feel half the things in this video were dumb, funny stuff and the other half were super introspective and well thought out. Either way, I want to watch this show now, so thanks for the video!
I used to browse a lot of old gen 1/mlp tales fan sites, including the site teddies place, which had fanfiction and toy edits done of G1/63 ponies to look like teddy and the boy ponies
If I were writing Starlight Maybe I could write her with a lack of confidence and quite nervous due to her being a leader and the responsibility the position contains but she would be able to keep a cool head in dangerous situations and keep her friends safe. Maybe Starlight could have a secret love for anything space related and that's why she has her cutie mark like how Teddy may have a love for men's hairdressing
When the Raibow of Darkness meets the Magic of Friendship for the first time... *Rainbow of Darkness:* _Finally, a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary!!!_ *Magic of Friendship:* I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye.
1:45, yeah I noticed that when I watched that documentry. I had remembered seeing G2 ponies, they were made when MLP had been out of popularity for years, they didn't think it was worth putting a show out and MLP had done semi-well despite things considered so didn't bother with a show. The thing is... The newer pony models were very different and slightly more horse-like in shape then past models. G3 they realised, a TV show works and so they made one... But.... They missed what made G1 popularity. It was the fantasy element. G3 had that but... It was made for little children. What made G1 worked was, the show wasn't just baby'ed down for kids, it was made and put out as a show that despite being aimed for kids had some nice story telling. G3 also didn't really flesh out its world it just introduced characters who only had slight changes in personnalities but were the same oveall cookie-cutter mould. G4 returned to the fantasy and gave it more clarity, lore and fleshed everything out. And it worked! It was everything G1 was and oh so much better. Now for G5 their going with a lot of that generations elements and their just building on it. But the thing about G4 was, it was so enjoyable that honestly? It wasn't just successful in terms of toys, it was successful as a franchise. The characers also, forgot to mention were distinct. While this made a lot of popular and unpopular characters, the popular characters were for a reason popular because they were enjoyable. G4 made a world that was huge, filled with all sorts of things. MLP could have gone on for a bit longer, but all things have to come to an end. One thing that did make G4 distinct was having characters with a sense of direction too. Rarity was going to be opening fashion shops all across Equesteria, Rainbow Dash was going to be a Wondebolt, etc. I think over time, Hasbro has learnt a good show sells a product.
I remember when FIM came out me and a friend watched most of the old MLP and it's dark man, one ep had a human child kidnap some baby pony's and had them in metal collars and chains one of them kind of looked dead.
The alicorns were tie-ins to actual MLPs being sold. They were released as a group and I swear they had opaque bodies since they had a celestial theme. 17:08 The Barringtons were also part of several Pony Families on shelves.
Jesus Christ I kind of just remembered Bullwinkle and the remove the knob from television bit never even thought anything of it till you mentioned it. I remember that being a thing that was mentioned and little adverts for the cartoon the whole don't touch that dial kind of thing back in the day. Using blackmail to foil a villain in a storyline has actually been more common than you might think in 1970s and 80s cartoon it's something that's been done quite a few times usually the hero character will threaten to reveal something embarrassing about the villain and ironically the tactic works for the hero yet the other way around when the villain does it it goes bad for the villain kind of double standards. Watched a lot of Animation from the 60s and 70s when I was growing up in the 80s so I've seen a lot of the more obscure stuff along with a lot of 80 stuff that people forget. I wasn't even aware of my little pony tails but you got to remember I watched maybe two episodes of My Little Pony back in the 80s if that show didn't do much for me.
The ugly Swedish DVDs are my guilty pleasures. I’m always looking for them to collect, but currently only have two. Because they’re not the stuff you’ll usually see in thrift stores and stuff, but someday I hope to have them all.
It's kinda ironic that the silly, short lived spinoff series is actually the darkest one of the whole franchise. Because it features the one villain no magical horse, God, or human can truly defeat: Climate change. Oh, and since "Who's Responsible" was the last episode, the episode ends with little resolution to its conflict, and we never see these ponies in any future generations, we can safely assume that this cute, peppy pony society was eventually wiped out by its own pollution. Sweet dreams, little girls of the 90's!
Maybe the reason we dont see winged/horned ponies in this series is because all the seperate races(?) of ponies now livecaway from eachother durning/after g5 and we only ever see the story from the earth pony's perspective. We see pegasy once aswell as an alicorn as they probably come from a place where theyve settled somewhere else. Earth ponies were kinda forgotten about in g4 as being appart of alicorn magic (hell originally thec2 sisters were just labled as unicorn-pegasy hybrids untill the first hearthwarming ep. So maybe pegasy/unicorns exist together still.
Funny you say that, because [SPOILER ALERT] the G5 movie actually does have all the different pony races living separately. Not only that, there's even an amount of racism going on, as Earth ponies are scared of unicorn horns/magic and of pegasi snatching them off the ground and flying away, despite the fact that, after some crazy thing happenied between G4's and G5's events (yes G5 takes place eons after G4 ended), unicorns no longer have magic, and pegasi can't fly anymore. Those 2 races also both think Earth ponies are all stupid hillbillies. Not to mention alicorns in this future are nowhere to be seen, as either they're all dead or somewhere super remote to the point of where their existence is debated. I haven't watched the movie myself, but I did watch a few reviews, so it could be a similar instance
I sometimes make these characters human when playing the Sims 2 and when I was able to play Sims 3 before the game broke for being incompatible with Mac El Captain. I always make Bon Bon fat. But to make her name seem more human I call her Bonnie and I call Bright Eyes, Bridget. Patch becomes Pat. Sweetheart becomes Sweetie because I can never think of anything else. Maybe I should call her Bliss instead? Starlight becomes Star. Whereas Melody and Clover get to keep their names.
14:59 “people who look into the earlier generations of mlp might start to notice a trend where at the end of every successful generation of the toy line,” directly leads into “g1 did it with tales, g3 did it with the ponyvile spin-off line, and g4 did it with pony life. Weird how it’s never worked, and yet hasbro’s done it three times already.” I think maybe there was supposed to be something explaining what exactly “it” is here, inbetween these two line reads. My best guess is that this section is talking about spin-offs for successful generations. But it was a little weird to see you lead into saying something, and then just not complete your thought.
1. The voice swap error was actually quite common in some 80's-90's shows. Mom was watching the first few episodes of the first TMNT with us and noticed Raph's voice was coming out of Donnie for a single line. Another example of this was those old Mario cartoons (Super Show and the other 2). I specifically remember one scene where Luigi told Mario that it was a good thing they had something I forgot, but Luigi's voice was coming out of Mario, so Mario was basically talking to himself about it (not to mention this was on top of another error where the colours of their outfits were completely wrong), and another scene in another episode where Princess Toadstool was asking a cave-Toad why he was seemingly talking about mashed potatoes, but her voice was coming from Luigi's mouth. A shocking error at first glance 2. I actually remember watching a similar YTP which was basically the same video, but instead of just "Pony" being replaced with "Pingas", it was every noun (it even had one of the Tales songs given the same treatment as a bonus). I think we might've seen the same video
This is so trippy... I remember like 90% of the scenes. It's been around 30 years since I've seen any of these, when I was like 4... I remember the story on some of these episodes or at least what happens next, as soon as I see the scene I immediately remember the visuals and how I felt emotionally watching it... I remember watching these more than just a few times... I used to be obsessed about generation 1 MLP... And I had no idea for 3 decades... o.O That somewhat explains my obsession with gen 4... XD It's just weird to discover it... Backwards... I don't exactly care for the visuals that much... But I do remember the strong emotional connection. 16:45 I remember these guys. I thought they looked really cool. XD
Hey Shunks, thank you for doing this entire analysis of MLPT. Your video inspired me to make several videos on the series myself. Many of the ideas came from your video. You can find them in the coming weeks on my channel!
Not showing money is a trope that G4 did away with. Lots of kids shows leave you wondering if they use barter or what. In other words, just because you don't see them getting paid, doesn't mean they are slaves.
@@claudevanvlack2306 G4 showed it is possible to trade your friend to actual slavery. The only reason it was side stepped was because of a bullshit law... seriously Rainbow Dash almost made Fluttershy a slave.
Lancer's Teddy Bear Frame is seriously freaking me out. I don't know why but its going to haunt my dreams. IM NOT JOKING ITS SO SCARY WTF ITS SENDING SHIVERS DOWN MY SPINE lol anyways good video
The alicorn fact is sorta incorrect. Back in 1985 an animation error caused one character to be alicorn in a few scenes. However it doesn’t reallly count cause it wasn’t intentional
It’s because at the time,Disney channel was a premium channel and not everyone got the channel.I grew up with not getting the channel because my parents couldn’t afford the premium channels at the time.I only had basic cable at the time (1992-1993)
I know you say it’s weird and parts of the show including the songs could have been better, but it’s still awesome and inspiring to me since I first watched it.
Actually, the cutie mark of their teacher is a blackboard with the two number being made by a lil piece of chalk, is difficult to see but if you pay enought attention when she's on the scene, you can totally see it. It reflects her passion to teach, quite literally. As what kind of thing she does have on her head, it kind of reminds me of an old's lady wrapping cloth with elastic as an adjustment garment and lil waves above that to hide it, like a bath hat, older generations used it when they were grannies, so i supposed it was that, to reflect certain familiarity to the audience.
Ironically, the theories are more interesting than the show itself. Though I will give the show partial credit for not being the absolute worst thing to come from MLP, even if a tad bit boring at times.
As a longtime peripheral in the G1 "fandom" (mainly through both my sister's former enthusiasm and the brony phenomenon) since the early 2010s, I deeply appreciate the existence of videos such as these, particularly given the oddly vitriolic revisionism the brony fandom of old frequently imposed upon previous MLP generations (which were resultantly stigmatically labelled as merely "garbage for little girls" without any specific further analysis). MLP Tales' mere existence has fascinated me for years - I cannot fathom why Hasbro executives believed that the most adequate vehicle for marketing a toyline of neon-colored sentient horses was a Doug-esque slice-of-life series, but I can't deny that the show's odd amalgam of zany humor and noticeably out-of-touch attempts at capturing early 90s tween culture wield a certain unironic charm to me (particularly when compounded by the latent fantasy elements the show occasionally gestured towards, such as Squire's ghost and Brightglow's band of "aliens"). On a mostly-related note, several of the photos of the Tales UK comics shown in the videos are actually mine from around 2013 (I never figured I'd see the day when my old house's shag carpet would appear in a reasonably-popular YT video, but here we are). I've been collecting the UK comic series (both Tales and pre-Tales) since 2012 and they're a weirdly interesting encapsulation of G1's evolution at large - both comic series are abruptly hard-rebooted from high fantasy adventures to the Tales continuity around 1993 (with virtually no explanation beyond "they're on holiday", hilariously enough) and proceed to screw up the color schemes of most of the secondary cast (I'm guessing that at least some users have seen photos of a red Teddy and green Ace drifting around the web) for most of the following year. While, as you noted, bowdlerized for a younger audience than the TV show, it's nonetheless neat seeing the cast in a parallel-yet-officially-approved form.
Bit off-topic, It's a shame Generation-2 MLP didn't get a cartoon, having read the bios for a couple of G2 ponies I think a G2 cartoon might have been good if a cartoon had been made based on those & 'Friendship Garden' toy line, (I imagine it sort of being like a blend of G1 & G4 but a bit closer to G1 and more fairytale fantasy-based than any other MLP Generation (perhaps something like the 'Last Unicorn or Ferngully but not so dark), maybe if it had a cartoon & it was good it could have made G2 more popular than it was then, the toys looked different from G1 ponies & people generally don't like change especially when something well-liked gets rebooted and this was the probably confounded by this being the first major reboot MLP ever had, maybe Hasbro could give G2 a second chance one-day? (great video on G1's 'Pony Tales' btw)
5:30 the more unnatural hooves look better than G5’s “magic” hooves in my opinion, atleast for when they dont have magic. Suspendion of disbelief for me is just wild with magic
I just had a crazy thought, what if, not only the version of Ponyland seen in 'My Little Pony Tales' was a parallel world to the Ponyland in My 'Little Pony N. Friends' it's somehow the same world as the world (Human) of Equestria Girls and the Ponies were turned into Humans at some point, though if so, how & why..?
I think I’ve actually found the YTP that features the Sparta remix you mentioned: ua-cam.com/video/2sZL2g57pwA/v-deo.html
i remember that! My friends and I would always say IIIIIIIIIIIICE CREAM SUUUUUUUUUUUUNDAY when we wanted one
Bon Bon's brother being named Pony wouldn't surprise me when Meadowlark's (Clover's sister) husband is named Cheval (litteraly just horse in french)
Also the diaper fetish theory might be true, the same writer from shop talk also wrote an episode of super mario bros 3 where Mario and Luigi get turned into babies
if there was a French translation would he be renamed to horse or something?
dude looks like a creep too
the wedding episode is such a core memory to me, you have no idea how much i adored the song meadowlark sang.
Cheval is the masculine french word for horse.
I have an addition!:
The Swedish dub has a part that basically endorses anorexia, in the song where one of the characters is going to be a princess they say
“You shouldn’t eat more of those, you should be thin!” In the original it was something like “you don’t want them, give them to me!”
I have absolutely no idea why this was added but oh my god it did
It’s in the episode Princess Problems: Bon Bon’s line is, “You don’t want these jelly beans: give ‘em all to me”, since six of the friends are preparing Patch to meet the royal parents
in the words of Uncle Roger *What da hail*
Yeah omg remember that
I think the reason ‘Sweet Music’ sounds so familiar is because it’s a completely different style from the rest of the songs in the series. The other songs have more of a late 80’s/early 90’s style, while ‘Sweet Music’ sounds similar to a lot of 50’s pop/rock songs. As pinkie pie says, Just a hunch.
ua-cam.com/video/4jndv10dUDU/v-deo.html
Here's sweet music. Sounds like different parts are inspired by different songs.
the instrumental reminds me of the ios By the Seaside ringtone
@@kennethgrande9093 it actually does sound like that lol
I can't find the song on youtube anywhere, who's it by?
here's the ringtone: ua-cam.com/video/LBLuM1wyHU8/v-deo.html
here's the MLP song: ua-cam.com/video/aoKwXG-bHGE/v-deo.html
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Unspoken rule of the internet, You can't have a TV Show/Game that doesn't have THAT theory in particular
Have I watched Tales? No
I'll ever watch it? No
I'm about to watch a 40 minutes Shunk's video about it? You bet it
I can relate.
Me too lmao
lmao same
I'd wanna watch it but I don't know where!
same
In some older movies and tv shows, the guys who thought they were tough were obsessed with their hair and we're always flinging black styling combs around. I think it originates from the movie version of Grease where Danny Zuko and the T-Birds do that. Originally they were going to have knives but the sensors at the time thought that would be inappropriate and changed it to Combs. But I can kind of see Teddy as having a secret aspiration to be a barber or men's hairdresser.
I swear I've seen a character model sheet for MLP Tales (can't recall where) that was meant to show the animators the proportions of an adult pony compared to the protaogonist ponies compared to a baby pony (toddler) etc, and it did have a separate character model for Bon Bon and notes in the margin about her being chonkier than the other ponies. The strange thing is that visually her character model is barely any different from the other characters. Like it's the TINIEST difference.
i love your videos they're great, though the only nitpick i have is that you don't play the audio of what topic you're talking about like the stock laugh or clover saying fortune that sounds like 4chan (unless it's to avoid copyright issues which is completly understandable)
@rocknst oh oops yeah, thanks for telling
There’s this pun that’s been in my head it goes “4chanately” or “un4chanutely”
I love to see content about MLP that isn’t just G4, MLP has always been a comfort show for me ever since I was a kid watching those old 80’s MLP movies and it’s cool to hear people talk about the earlier stuff
sweet music probably sounds like "walking on sunshine". idk if that's the actual song name but that's what the chorus sings.
it is
MLP Tales is super goofy and nowhere near as impactful as FIM, and yet I kind of love it for some reason
MLP Tales makes me nostalgic. I had an entire month of my life at the age of five where all I would watch was The Care Bears Movie II on repeat, so it reminds me of that style of animation and time period.
Bro same😂
It’s goofy and even stupid as heck sometimes but it’s funny and enjoyable at the same time
I think its because the show was the first exspance to the characters having distinct and complex personalities. The original had some of that as does G3 but tales has a lot more of it. In original G1 and G3 the ponies had personalities but there were massive numbers of them with the same or very similar personalities, tales focus on less main characters made them able to flesh the main characters out. Something they perfected by FIM and could apply it to more characters.
22:41
Americans would absolutely say "welcome to America" to aliens visiting Earth
In Bon Bon's Diary, Teddy mentions that his dad grounded him because he failed his test, at least we know that one of his parents is still alive.
His mother speaks through a door in Shop Talk.
A different theory is that Teddy comes from an abusive background, and that’s why he acts out
@@finnanima2413 If a second season of MLP Tales came out during the 90's
This idea would be perfect as an episode
@@jacobjcb8883 I doubt considering how I watched a review of the episodes it would be handled well though...
it feels super nice to see people talk about pre G4 mlp content. as a G1 nerd I love it :] also yr videos rock!!! they're all rlly well done and fun to watch
I love gen 1 but tbh Gen 3 has the best toys
@@arnoldgarcia2379 Gen 3's toys really were the prettiest. All of there colors and designs were so gorgeous.
So that song, "Sweet Music," reminds me of half of the Grease Soundtrack, especially with the instrumentals. Also, parts of the melody are strikingly similar to the song "Freckles," which is the opening theme song for Rorouni Kenshin. (The original Japanese version is called "Sobakasu")
is the most similar i've heard
Just wanted to say for the Bon Bon has diabetes theory, that’s not how it works. Type 1 diabetes is your body isn’t able to produce insulin, so when your blood sugar gets high (usually after you eat something), you have to get a shot of insulin to lower it back down. The only time you need to eat is if your blood sugar gets low and even then you don’t need to eat as much as Bon Bon does. What she most likely would have is hypoglycemia.
Source: my boyfriend has type one diabetes
Hot take : This was my favorite older gen series. The characthers are fun and relatable-espeically Bon Bon for me AS kid. I always related to her so much.
Yah i love this generation, it was undervalued and had its faults but you live and learn.
It felt so easy to get back into mlp watching your videos. Something about this video just has a comforting presence that reminds me of why i liked mlp in the first place
In terms of watching past gen mlp shows, i've only seen bits and pieces of My Little Pony Tales, i mean i think i've only watched like 3 or 4 episodes, but that was it.
I grew up on this show. All I had was the vhs recordings my mom had made until I was able to get a dvd series a few years ago. I actually teared up because I hadn’t seen a non scketchy bootleg copy since I was little.
*slaps hands and rubs it together*
Its time to dive deep into the dark secrets of pony tales
Letssss gooooo
Patch could be a sorta symbolic meaning. Maybe it means that she has to live with what she could, which makes sense because her broth parents are unknown and she’s adopted.
I feel half the things in this video were dumb, funny stuff and the other half were super introspective and well thought out. Either way, I want to watch this show now, so thanks for the video!
I used to browse a lot of old gen 1/mlp tales fan sites, including the site teddies place, which had fanfiction and toy edits done of G1/63 ponies to look like teddy and the boy ponies
If I were writing Starlight
Maybe I could write her with a lack of confidence and quite nervous due to her being a leader and the responsibility the position contains but she would be able to keep a cool head in dangerous situations and keep her friends safe.
Maybe Starlight could have a secret love for anything space related and that's why she has her cutie mark like how Teddy may have a love for men's hairdressing
When the Raibow of Darkness meets the Magic of Friendship for the first time...
*Rainbow of Darkness:* _Finally, a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary!!!_
*Magic of Friendship:* I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye.
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Her Cutie-Mark is meant to be a chalk-board with a mathematical expression on it, because she’s a teacher.
Also, having played Earthbound twice since first seeing this, I appreciate your use of its soundtrack as the background music.
oh man, i loved this show as a kid for some reason
(also i'm swedish and even as a kid i didn't like the dvd covers lmao)
lol same but i’m a finn... XD
@@henkkahenrik4183 SUOMI MAINITTU TORILLA TAVATAAN, PERKELE!!!!
Bon Bon's voice DEFINITELY reminds me of DW. I was actually surprised to find out that you thought the same thing as I thought it was just me.
Same here
a gen 3 iceberg would actually be pretty interesting
1:45, yeah I noticed that when I watched that documentry.
I had remembered seeing G2 ponies, they were made when MLP had been out of popularity for years, they didn't think it was worth putting a show out and MLP had done semi-well despite things considered so didn't bother with a show. The thing is... The newer pony models were very different and slightly more horse-like in shape then past models.
G3 they realised, a TV show works and so they made one... But.... They missed what made G1 popularity. It was the fantasy element. G3 had that but... It was made for little children. What made G1 worked was, the show wasn't just baby'ed down for kids, it was made and put out as a show that despite being aimed for kids had some nice story telling. G3 also didn't really flesh out its world it just introduced characters who only had slight changes in personnalities but were the same oveall cookie-cutter mould.
G4 returned to the fantasy and gave it more clarity, lore and fleshed everything out. And it worked! It was everything G1 was and oh so much better. Now for G5 their going with a lot of that generations elements and their just building on it. But the thing about G4 was, it was so enjoyable that honestly? It wasn't just successful in terms of toys, it was successful as a franchise. The characers also, forgot to mention were distinct. While this made a lot of popular and unpopular characters, the popular characters were for a reason popular because they were enjoyable. G4 made a world that was huge, filled with all sorts of things. MLP could have gone on for a bit longer, but all things have to come to an end. One thing that did make G4 distinct was having characters with a sense of direction too. Rarity was going to be opening fashion shops all across Equesteria, Rainbow Dash was going to be a Wondebolt, etc.
I think over time, Hasbro has learnt a good show sells a product.
I've always said that the Ticket episodes of both Tales and Fim was very similar!
And honestly tales did it better since there's no deus ex machina solving the problem at the end
honestly i respect shunks just bc their a mlp fan that doesnt just talk about fim, ive been desperate
10:12 "...Now that's a name that I have not heard in a long, long time..."
-Obi-Wan Kenobi
I remember when FIM came out me and a friend watched most of the old MLP and it's dark man, one ep had a human child kidnap some baby pony's and had them in metal collars and chains one of them kind of looked dead.
The glowing ponies and the members of Melody's band were also toys in the G1 line.
21:27 we hear his mother in Shop Talk and he mentions his dad as alive in Bon Bon's Diary, at least.
The alicorns were tie-ins to actual MLPs being sold. They were released as a group and I swear they had opaque bodies since they had a celestial theme. 17:08 The Barringtons were also part of several Pony Families on shelves.
Jesus Christ I kind of just remembered Bullwinkle and the remove the knob from television bit never even thought anything of it till you mentioned it. I remember that being a thing that was mentioned and little adverts for the cartoon the whole don't touch that dial kind of thing back in the day. Using blackmail to foil a villain in a storyline has actually been more common than you might think in 1970s and 80s cartoon it's something that's been done quite a few times usually the hero character will threaten to reveal something embarrassing about the villain and ironically the tactic works for the hero yet the other way around when the villain does it it goes bad for the villain kind of double standards. Watched a lot of Animation from the 60s and 70s when I was growing up in the 80s so I've seen a lot of the more obscure stuff along with a lot of 80 stuff that people forget. I wasn't even aware of my little pony tails but you got to remember I watched maybe two episodes of My Little Pony back in the 80s if that show didn't do much for me.
Having enjoyed Gen 1 when I was little made it that much easier for me to become a Brony when Friendship is Magic came along!
I loved and I mean LOVED My Little Pony Tales! Thank you for the Iceberg video it was great and informative!
I just want you to know, I know almost nothing about MLP and have never been a fan, but your videos about MLP fascinate me for some reason.
Lol. Miss Hackneys cutiemark is a chalkboard because she is a teacher and Patch jas a patch because she likes to fix and build things.
There was not room for 1+1=2 so they just used 2.
OHHH I DIDN'T EXPECT ANOTHER ICEBERG VIDEO... ASUHFIU Very exciting to see though! :]
Good luck in Collage Shunks!!
The ugly Swedish DVDs are my guilty pleasures. I’m always looking for them to collect, but currently only have two. Because they’re not the stuff you’ll usually see in thrift stores and stuff, but someday I hope to have them all.
Please, make a g3 iceberg video! It was my childhood, I wanna know more!
28:33 STOP I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT THAT
It's kinda ironic that the silly, short lived spinoff series is actually the darkest one of the whole franchise. Because it features the one villain no magical horse, God, or human can truly defeat: Climate change.
Oh, and since "Who's Responsible" was the last episode, the episode ends with little resolution to its conflict, and we never see these ponies in any future generations, we can safely assume that this cute, peppy pony society was eventually wiped out by its own pollution. Sweet dreams, little girls of the 90's!
I always noticed melody and firefly looking similar!
Edit: Izzy also looks like them lol
I Started watching My Little Pony in 2013 to 2014
I started watching when it came out, since I was a hub kid. It was really boring waiting for new episodes
@@Rose-zo1oo Me too Good Old Times
ok
I started watching MLP this year
@@societyofcriminals eyyo welcome to the herd!
This series gives me a nostalgia for older cartoons even though I never watched it as a kid
I watch on Tubi and I love the bumpers! I had no idea they were considered lost media.
Maybe the reason we dont see winged/horned ponies in this series is because all the seperate races(?) of ponies now livecaway from eachother durning/after g5 and we only ever see the story from the earth pony's perspective.
We see pegasy once aswell as an alicorn as they probably come from a place where theyve settled somewhere else.
Earth ponies were kinda forgotten about in g4 as being appart of alicorn magic (hell originally thec2 sisters were just labled as unicorn-pegasy hybrids untill the first hearthwarming ep. So maybe pegasy/unicorns exist together still.
Funny you say that, because [SPOILER ALERT]
the G5 movie actually does have all the different pony races living separately. Not only that, there's even an amount of racism going on, as Earth ponies are scared of unicorn horns/magic and of pegasi snatching them off the ground and flying away, despite the fact that, after some crazy thing happenied between G4's and G5's events (yes G5 takes place eons after G4 ended), unicorns no longer have magic, and pegasi can't fly anymore. Those 2 races also both think Earth ponies are all stupid hillbillies. Not to mention alicorns in this future are nowhere to be seen, as either they're all dead or somewhere super remote to the point of where their existence is debated. I haven't watched the movie myself, but I did watch a few reviews, so it could be a similar instance
shunks your content is always so good
I sometimes make these characters human when playing the Sims 2 and when I was able to play Sims 3 before the game broke for being incompatible with Mac El Captain. I always make Bon Bon fat. But to make her name seem more human I call her Bonnie and I call Bright Eyes, Bridget. Patch becomes Pat. Sweetheart becomes Sweetie because I can never think of anything else. Maybe I should call her Bliss instead? Starlight becomes Star. Whereas Melody and Clover get to keep their names.
14:59 “people who look into the earlier generations of mlp might start to notice a trend where at the end of every successful generation of the toy line,” directly leads into “g1 did it with tales, g3 did it with the ponyvile spin-off line, and g4 did it with pony life. Weird how it’s never worked, and yet hasbro’s done it three times already.”
I think maybe there was supposed to be something explaining what exactly “it” is here, inbetween these two line reads. My best guess is that this section is talking about spin-offs for successful generations. But it was a little weird to see you lead into saying something, and then just not complete your thought.
These are really high quality iceberg videos dude, Keep up the awesome work!
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As someone who's been in a relationship like this.... yeah... its accurate and hurts
I’m all too sure of that. It’s a tricky topic when I make compilation videos about Teddy or Sweetheart.
34:02 Level 7
"we gettin a lil freaky 😨"
1. The voice swap error was actually quite common in some 80's-90's shows. Mom was watching the first few episodes of the first TMNT with us and noticed Raph's voice was coming out of Donnie for a single line. Another example of this was those old Mario cartoons (Super Show and the other 2). I specifically remember one scene where Luigi told Mario that it was a good thing they had something I forgot, but Luigi's voice was coming out of Mario, so Mario was basically talking to himself about it (not to mention this was on top of another error where the colours of their outfits were completely wrong), and another scene in another episode where Princess Toadstool was asking a cave-Toad why he was seemingly talking about mashed potatoes, but her voice was coming from Luigi's mouth. A shocking error at first glance
2. I actually remember watching a similar YTP which was basically the same video, but instead of just "Pony" being replaced with "Pingas", it was every noun (it even had one of the Tales songs given the same treatment as a bonus). I think we might've seen the same video
This is so trippy... I remember like 90% of the scenes. It's been around 30 years since I've seen any of these, when I was like 4... I remember the story on some of these episodes or at least what happens next, as soon as I see the scene I immediately remember the visuals and how I felt emotionally watching it... I remember watching these more than just a few times... I used to be obsessed about generation 1 MLP... And I had no idea for 3 decades... o.O
That somewhat explains my obsession with gen 4... XD
It's just weird to discover it... Backwards... I don't exactly care for the visuals that much... But I do remember the strong emotional connection.
16:45 I remember these guys. I thought they looked really cool. XD
One time when I was 8 I was sick home from school and I watched the entirety of mlp tales. Only time I’ve watched it lol
Great video! Can you do an iceberg video on g1? The series is rather good, there are many villans, characters and episodes that people don't know.🐎
Birth of the Smoose. :)
Hey Shunks, thank you for doing this entire analysis of MLPT. Your video inspired me to make several videos on the series myself.
Many of the ideas came from your video. You can find them in the coming weeks on my channel!
I can't wait until your mlp g1 iceberg video is here
About that Slavery.jpg...
have none of these folks herd of those places that have people pull carts? Like that is a thing.
Not showing money is a trope that G4 did away with. Lots of kids shows leave you wondering if they use barter or what. In other words, just because you don't see them getting paid, doesn't mean they are slaves.
@@claudevanvlack2306 G4 showed it is possible to trade your friend to actual slavery. The only reason it was side stepped was because of a bullshit law... seriously Rainbow Dash almost made Fluttershy a slave.
@@cameoshadowness7757 That's the 4th generation iceberg. If there's a monarchy, are there serfs? Taxation without adequate representation?
@@claudevanvlack2306 maybe maybe not but we are shown too little to truely say.
Also Tales did show money as well on multiple occasions.
I was not expecting the IT reference 😭 I can never escape it.... literally....
Lancer's Teddy Bear Frame is seriously freaking me out. I don't know why but its going to haunt my dreams.
IM NOT JOKING ITS SO SCARY WTF ITS SENDING SHIVERS DOWN MY SPINE
lol anyways good video
Of course somehow Chris's nonsense found it's way here lmao.
i swear there is gonna be a Pony Life iceberg
"blonde sweetheart" looks like surprise from g1
The alicorn fact is sorta incorrect. Back in 1985 an animation error caused one character to be alicorn in a few scenes. However it doesn’t reallly count cause it wasn’t intentional
Wait, it aired on the Disney Channel?
Huh.
Didn't know that.
It’s because at the time,Disney channel was a premium channel and not everyone got the channel.I grew up with not getting the channel because my parents couldn’t afford the premium channels at the time.I only had basic cable at the time (1992-1993)
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I actually OWN the firefly pony as a toy and I got so excited when I heard them mention it!
That orange pony with a pink mane in a braid looks like sunny from g5
Edit: nevermind, she already mentioned it xD
I know you say it’s weird and parts of the show including the songs could have been better, but it’s still awesome and inspiring to me since I first watched it.
1992 was a really good year for me
I was born in that year myself
I was 7 years old at the time in 2nd grade playing with the Sega Genesis.
the coin ride looks like the pink surprise twin!! also the surprise twins mom has a yellow bow around her neck
Sweet music, so me, is reminiscent of Back In Your Arms Again or Build Me Up Buttercup
Actually, the cutie mark of their teacher is a blackboard with the two number being made by a lil piece of chalk, is difficult to see but if you pay enought attention when she's on the scene, you can totally see it.
It reflects her passion to teach, quite literally.
As what kind of thing she does have on her head, it kind of reminds me of an old's lady wrapping cloth with elastic as an adjustment garment and lil waves above that to hide it, like a bath hat, older generations used it when they were grannies, so i supposed it was that, to reflect certain familiarity to the audience.
Ironically, the theories are more interesting than the show itself.
Though I will give the show partial credit for not being the absolute worst thing to come from MLP, even if a tad bit boring at times.
I watch Mlp Tales and it's from my childhood and I really love it too
As a longtime peripheral in the G1 "fandom" (mainly through both my sister's former enthusiasm and the brony phenomenon) since the early 2010s, I deeply appreciate the existence of videos such as these, particularly given the oddly vitriolic revisionism the brony fandom of old frequently imposed upon previous MLP generations (which were resultantly stigmatically labelled as merely "garbage for little girls" without any specific further analysis). MLP Tales' mere existence has fascinated me for years - I cannot fathom why Hasbro executives believed that the most adequate vehicle for marketing a toyline of neon-colored sentient horses was a Doug-esque slice-of-life series, but I can't deny that the show's odd amalgam of zany humor and noticeably out-of-touch attempts at capturing early 90s tween culture wield a certain unironic charm to me (particularly when compounded by the latent fantasy elements the show occasionally gestured towards, such as Squire's ghost and Brightglow's band of "aliens").
On a mostly-related note, several of the photos of the Tales UK comics shown in the videos are actually mine from around 2013 (I never figured I'd see the day when my old house's shag carpet would appear in a reasonably-popular YT video, but here we are). I've been collecting the UK comic series (both Tales and pre-Tales) since 2012 and they're a weirdly interesting encapsulation of G1's evolution at large - both comic series are abruptly hard-rebooted from high fantasy adventures to the Tales continuity around 1993 (with virtually no explanation beyond "they're on holiday", hilariously enough) and proceed to screw up the color schemes of most of the secondary cast (I'm guessing that at least some users have seen photos of a red Teddy and green Ace drifting around the web) for most of the following year. While, as you noted, bowdlerized for a younger audience than the TV show, it's nonetheless neat seeing the cast in a parallel-yet-officially-approved form.
Hey, this is really nice. Thanks Shunks!
2:45 Wasnt this a joke in the Grim adventures of Billy and Mandy?
the backing track of sweet music kinda sounds like true by spandau ballet???
The beach boys had "I can hear music" that could probably what you are thinking about
Your sona is rlly cute :D good video
Low-key Teddy sounds like an oc I would write, maybe a little less insecure but still
Bit off-topic, It's a shame Generation-2 MLP didn't get a cartoon, having read the bios for a couple of G2 ponies I think a G2 cartoon might have been good if a cartoon had been made based on those & 'Friendship Garden' toy line, (I imagine it sort of being like a blend of G1 & G4 but a bit closer to G1 and more fairytale fantasy-based than any other MLP Generation (perhaps something like the 'Last Unicorn or Ferngully but not so dark), maybe if it had a cartoon & it was good it could have made G2 more popular than it was then, the toys looked different from G1 ponies & people generally don't like change especially when something well-liked gets rebooted and this was the probably confounded by this being the first major reboot MLP ever had, maybe Hasbro could give G2 a second chance one-day? (great video on G1's 'Pony Tales' btw)
5:30 the more unnatural hooves look better than G5’s “magic” hooves in my opinion, atleast for when they dont have magic. Suspendion of disbelief for me is just wild with magic
Lucky also reminds me of Trouble shoes where is cutie mark can be seen as a curse or a blessing.
Do you mean clover
I just had a crazy thought, what if, not only the version of Ponyland seen in 'My Little Pony Tales' was a parallel world to the Ponyland in My 'Little Pony N. Friends' it's somehow the same world as the world (Human) of Equestria Girls and the Ponies were turned into Humans at some point, though if so, how & why..?
Or Equestria Girls is a timeline where the missiles of october DIDN'T go horribly wrong.
Sweet Music sounds like something I know too..
Its at the tip of my tongue but I can’t quite make it out.
Why the Hell should it be a 'guilty' pleasure? I hate that term. And I'd call it quiet the little gem.
33:33 I thought it's Surprise, white pegasus with blond mane
yo i loved this shit as a kid, it still has a very special place in my heart...