The E-type numbers are a little misleading , unless you like LHD Jaguar E-Type Series 1 (1961-1967): 3.8-litre Coupé: Around 1,798 total Series 1 Coupés were made, with roughly 500 of these in RHD. 3.8-litre Roadster: Out of 6,886 total Roadsters, around 943 were RHD. 4.2-litre Coupé: Approximately 1,957 Coupés were made, and 583 of these were RHD. 4.2-litre Roadster: Around 6,749 Roadsters were made, with about 1,182 in RHD. So, in total, across all body types (Roadster and Coupé) and engine versions (3.8-litre and 4.2-litre), around 3,000-3,200 RHD E-Type Series 1 cars were produced. Given the overall production of about 38,419 Series 1 E-Types, only around 8-10% were RHD, making them much rarer than their LHD counterparts. If you are in the market look out for LHD conversation they are worth half the value of an original RHD car - thats the sort off information that would be useful IMHO
I had an 5 litre XJS for sixteen years and toured of Europe loved it , in all that time only thing ever broke was a high pressure steering hose, I agree your comments on the E type, Astons are overpriced and your paying for the badge , let’s face it the Vanquish is a Mercedes amg in disguise, beautiful car though , I also read that an Aston is the second most depreciating car from new and apparently McLaren’s is no. 1, sorry my most overrated cars are Ford escorts and the like
"I don't get it" isn't really a cogent argument. 300sl roadster: why not talk about the stacked headlights, additional side strikes, and the fact that it looks like the boss? Yes, the gullwing is all round better and more iconic, but the roadster has a different kind of massive presence.
Somehow everyone who drives an F50 absolutley love it. The Mercedes 300 Roadster had an improved rear suspension compared with the coupe. These may be the reason collectors buy these two cars.
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What do you think about the Bentley Continental R of the 90ties? I think, underrated
I hear from people who own/have driven the 300SL that it is unbearably hot inside and poorly ventilated. Plus, the Roadster had improved rear suspension. However, I suppose most people want the Gullwing for the pose value.
F50 is my lotto win car. It looks amazing to my eyes, it can be open top or closed, it has an F1 derived engine and it sounds amazing and they are super rare.
Series 1 3.8 fhc is definitely not operated.how can you compare a 72 911 rs to a 60s designed etype..A 62 etype made a DB5 drive like a truck.im 6ft2 and owned a 3.8 fhc for 19yrs and it was amazing...I also owned a xj220 which was incredibly quick..but gearbox notchy and without the uprated servo brakes unable to stop at low speed...but agree it should be a £750k+ car today
What do you think of the Vantage V12S manual. Very low production numbers RHD coupe 118. Adrian Newey described as one of the best production cars Tick😝Underrated?
The other factor is manipulation in the classic car market; whether intentional or unintentional, such as influential commentators pushing certain models. To be an astute investor requires research and emotional detachment which kind of defeats the purpose of buying a classic car - it's an emotional purchase.
The F50 was a still born mess of a design. (I'd LOVE to hear what Gandini would have to say about it.) The F50 exterior (and interior) design always struck me as something that a video game designer would have come up with if instructed to create a bespoke "supercar" for Forza. The F50's boring, "bar of soap" exterior is only made worse by Pininfarina's choice to tack on predictable Ferrari styling cues such as round tailights and hideous chrome prancing horse in the fish mouth grill. At least with the follow up to the F50 they didn't make the same mistake. Like it or not, the F140 Enzo was at least a brave change in the Ferrari styling history. I think the reason for this is the Enzo was designed by one, sole designer at Pininfarina, Ken Okuyama where as the F50 was done by the team of Pietro Camardella and Lorenzo Ramaciotti. The F50 always felt like a bipartisan, negotiated design. As if they were given a deadline and they came to an agreement on how it should look. That is NEVER a good path to an outcome. A singular vision is almost always the best way to create art. You don't do it by committee.
Overrated blistered wheel arch car is definitely the Lancia Intregale in terms of price now, and underrated is Series 2 Maserati Ghilbi circa 1995. Audi Quattro is about sweet spot in terms of price and performance.
You’d love an E-Type engineered like a 911??? Have you ever bothered to look at both cars‘ technical specifications?? Please, honestly!! BTW: The E-Type’s supposed cheapness is also complete nonsense, in their respective home markets both were the same price (inspire of the Porsche’s modest engineering).
@@sultanoftippoo3857 carbon weave and general fit and finish is somewhat shabby, especially if you look at price. I saw a new F12 in the showroom some years ago now and there was defect paint on the bonnet, hood, and I wouldn’t accept that given the price of these vehicles. The salesman thought I was being awkward. 🤣 Too many people flock to the car because of its brand and badge but can’t see the engineering.
@@Tracertme So only the finish of the paintwork then that you believe the car is over rated? It’s interesting how two people with equally valid opinions can see the same thing in two different ways. Personally it doesn’t bother me in the slightest that as a road going race car that was one of the first to use carbon fibre nearly 40 years ago, you can see the weave through the paint on some original examples (in fact those that have been repainted to remove that patina are often worth less than those whose bodywork has been unmolested). You mention too many people flock to the car because of the brand and badge and can’t see the engineering. Once again an interesting comment given many including myself see it as being one of the most iconic cars of all time (behind maybe the McLaren F1)) precisely because of the cars engineering (engine, chassis etc) that delivered by far the most visceral driving experience I’ve ever had. I totally agree with you that any car should leave its factory without faults (including paintwork) which is why many people are huge fans of marques like Porsche who market themselves as having the best engineered car and criticise Ferrari. The best way I can explain why people like me flock to Ferrari (declaring an interest I own an F355), is to paraphrase something a motoring journalist once said. Comparing Porsche to Ferrari is like comparing a pair of tights to a pair of stockings. One can be described as being better than the other in every measurable way (more practical, easier to live with, cheaper), but somehow it just isn’t. In short one is bought with the head, the other with the heart.
@@sultanoftippoo3857 The important thing is you enjoy your car the F355 for me is better than an F40 not in performance terms, but everything else. The F40 was like a skunk works after hours model. You can take a trip in your car the F40 would be painful and hence even though I could never afford one, I wouldn’t want one. Each to their own on aesthetics.
@@Tracertme 100% agree with you, any car no matter it’s performance or value is the right car if you enjoy driving it. Same as you, I’d never be able to afford an F40 or if I could I’d have other ways I’d rather spend the money but I was lucky enough to drive one for a short distance once and can see the attraction. Anyhow, I really appreciate the responses and it’s been really good to have a respectful and positive natter with someone on UA-cam. Hope you continue to enjoy driving your car!
How about showing pictures of the cars with text "underrated/Overrated"?
This is a personality back rub,don't understand it,apart from advertising.
Worthless without supporting pics to punch the point of the discussion
Taking a pass in this
The E-type numbers are a little misleading , unless you like LHD
Jaguar E-Type Series 1 (1961-1967):
3.8-litre Coupé: Around 1,798 total Series 1 Coupés were made, with roughly 500 of these in RHD.
3.8-litre Roadster: Out of 6,886 total Roadsters, around 943 were RHD.
4.2-litre Coupé: Approximately 1,957 Coupés were made, and 583 of these were RHD.
4.2-litre Roadster: Around 6,749 Roadsters were made, with about 1,182 in RHD.
So, in total, across all body types (Roadster and Coupé) and engine versions (3.8-litre and 4.2-litre), around 3,000-3,200 RHD E-Type Series 1 cars were produced.
Given the overall production of about 38,419 Series 1 E-Types, only around 8-10% were RHD, making them much rarer than their LHD counterparts.
If you are in the market look out for LHD conversation they are worth half the value of an original RHD car - thats the sort off information that would be useful IMHO
Nice Dolly Sprint in the background that went for 25k!!!!!!. Great show.
There were 60-70,000 Austin Healey 3000 (the big Healey) made from 1959-1967. 91% were exported to North America.
If an E type is good enough for Adrian Newey it's good enough for me!
Has custom different suspension. Different geometry, length wishbones
Those Goodwood race cars have custom everything! Nothing like the cars that raced in period. All the expensive cars are replicas.
when talking about cars I think you should be showing some pictures of the cars you are talking about !
Overrated: Skylines. Any of them.
Underrated: Porsche 996.
Also over-rated: any Ford Cosworth. Engine sounds like a bag of bolts and interiors cheap garbage.
I had an 5 litre XJS for sixteen years and toured of Europe loved it , in all that time only thing ever broke was a high pressure steering hose, I agree your comments on the E type, Astons are overpriced and your paying for the badge , let’s face it the Vanquish is a Mercedes amg in disguise, beautiful car though , I also read that an Aston is the second most depreciating car from new and apparently McLaren’s is no. 1, sorry my most overrated cars are Ford escorts and the like
Vicky I 100% agree with you on the E Type so overrated
I agree, the E-Type FHC is ugly to my eyes, the track is too narrow, they are disproportional and the rear end looks awful
"I don't get it" isn't really a cogent argument. 300sl roadster: why not talk about the stacked headlights, additional side strikes, and the fact that it looks like the boss? Yes, the gullwing is all round better and more iconic, but the roadster has a different kind of massive presence.
Somehow everyone who drives an F50 absolutley love it. The Mercedes 300 Roadster had an improved rear suspension compared with the coupe. These may be the reason collectors buy these two cars.
What do you think about the Bentley Continental R of the 90ties? I think, underrated
How can these guys not have known that there were so many E-types? Their popularity was massively boosted by their cheapness! Agree with Vicky, too.
Near fell off my seat when you said F50. It’s the greatest Ferrari 😮
Vicky has always been my biggest crush since the late 90's so I will definitely become an avid watcher
I hear from people who own/have driven the 300SL that it is unbearably hot inside and poorly ventilated. Plus, the Roadster had improved rear suspension. However, I suppose most people want the Gullwing for the pose value.
F50 is my lotto win car. It looks amazing to my eyes, it can be open top or closed, it has an F1 derived engine and it sounds amazing and they are super rare.
Series 1 3.8 fhc is definitely not operated.how can you compare a 72 911 rs to a 60s designed etype..A 62 etype made a DB5 drive like a truck.im 6ft2 and owned a 3.8 fhc for 19yrs and it was amazing...I also owned a xj220 which was incredibly quick..but gearbox notchy and without the uprated servo brakes unable to stop at low speed...but agree it should be a £750k+ car today
What do you think of the Vantage V12S manual. Very low production numbers RHD coupe 118. Adrian Newey described as one of the best production cars Tick😝Underrated?
Jeez I said…. A lot!! 😂
The other factor is manipulation in the classic car market; whether intentional or unintentional, such as influential commentators pushing certain models. To be an astute investor requires research and emotional detachment which kind of defeats the purpose of buying a classic car - it's an emotional purchase.
Love Vicky's laugh!
aren't all ice cars about to become museum pieces ?
The demise of the ICE is premature
Nope
Eventually yes.
The F50 was a still born mess of a design. (I'd LOVE to hear what Gandini would have to say about it.) The F50 exterior (and interior) design always struck me as something that a video game designer would have come up with if instructed to create a bespoke "supercar" for Forza. The F50's boring, "bar of soap" exterior is only made worse by Pininfarina's choice to tack on predictable Ferrari styling cues such as round tailights and hideous chrome prancing horse in the fish mouth grill. At least with the follow up to the F50 they didn't make the same mistake. Like it or not, the F140 Enzo was at least a brave change in the Ferrari styling history. I think the reason for this is the Enzo was designed by one, sole designer at Pininfarina, Ken Okuyama where as the F50 was done by the team of Pietro Camardella and Lorenzo Ramaciotti. The F50 always felt like a bipartisan, negotiated design. As if they were given a deadline and they came to an agreement on how it should look. That is NEVER a good path to an outcome. A singular vision is almost always the best way to create art. You don't do it by committee.
Overrated blistered wheel arch car is definitely the Lancia Intregale in terms of price now, and underrated is Series 2 Maserati Ghilbi circa 1995. Audi Quattro is about sweet spot in terms of price and performance.
What about the Nova 3dr? 😂
@@benzinapaul7416 yes and a then current girlfriend had one… can’t remember if it was 1.2 or 1.6 ltr engine… 🧐
Time to ditch the headphones. Why?
Allows things to happen in the background while they chat to each other without getting distracted.
Also neutralises the volume the listen at so their output volume is closer to each other
Great show as always
2004_2024 is twenty years
You’d love an E-Type engineered like a 911???
Have you ever bothered to look at both cars‘ technical specifications??
Please, honestly!!
BTW: The E-Type’s supposed cheapness is also complete nonsense, in their respective home markets both were the same price (inspire of the Porsche’s modest engineering).
Overrated is Ferrari F40 the paint finish is so poor.. mind you most Ferrari out of factory are poor paint in the older 80’s series cars..
Is it just the carbon weave showing through the paint on the F40 you don’t like or are there other reasons you think the car is over rated?
@@sultanoftippoo3857 carbon weave and general fit and finish is somewhat shabby, especially if you look at price. I saw a new F12 in the showroom some years ago now and there was defect paint on the bonnet, hood, and I wouldn’t accept that given the price of these vehicles. The salesman thought I was being awkward. 🤣 Too many people flock to the car because of its brand and badge but can’t see the engineering.
@@Tracertme So only the finish of the paintwork then that you believe the car is over rated?
It’s interesting how two people with equally valid opinions can see the same thing in two different ways. Personally it doesn’t bother me in the slightest that as a road going race car that was one of the first to use carbon fibre nearly 40 years ago, you can see the weave through the paint on some original examples (in fact those that have been repainted to remove that patina are often worth less than those whose bodywork has been unmolested).
You mention too many people flock to the car because of the brand and badge and can’t see the engineering. Once again an interesting comment given many including myself see it as being one of the most iconic cars of all time (behind maybe the McLaren F1)) precisely because of the cars engineering (engine, chassis etc) that delivered by far the most visceral driving experience I’ve ever had.
I totally agree with you that any car should leave its factory without faults (including paintwork) which is why many people are huge fans of marques like Porsche who market themselves as having the best engineered car and criticise Ferrari. The best way I can explain why people like me flock to Ferrari (declaring an interest I own an F355), is to paraphrase something a motoring journalist once said.
Comparing Porsche to Ferrari is like comparing a pair of tights to a pair of stockings. One can be described as being better than the other in every measurable way (more practical, easier to live with, cheaper), but somehow it just isn’t.
In short one is bought with the head, the other with the heart.
@@sultanoftippoo3857 The important thing is you enjoy your car the F355 for me is better than an F40 not in performance terms, but everything else. The F40 was like a skunk works after hours model. You can take a trip in your car the F40 would be painful and hence even though I could never afford one, I wouldn’t want one. Each to their own on aesthetics.
@@Tracertme 100% agree with you, any car no matter it’s performance or value is the right car if you enjoy driving it. Same as you, I’d never be able to afford an F40 or if I could I’d have other ways I’d rather spend the money but I was lucky enough to drive one for a short distance once and can see the attraction.
Anyhow, I really appreciate the responses and it’s been really good to have a respectful and positive natter with someone on UA-cam. Hope you continue to enjoy driving your car!
Single spoke steering wheel… Matra Bagheera and Murena.
Auction specialist 🤔🤔🤔🤔
1960s Ferrari, especially the 250 GTO. Only a mother could love this ugly beast. Blah!
Ferrari 250 GTO is not ugly. But it is properly overrated.
Looking old now vbh just like a classic