That's why I'm curious on how much the console actually cost them I get the idea that they wouldn't make a console for a small minority of people if they lost money selling it when they could've just opted not to and still keep enthusiasts
Still priced better than the PS3 was. The PS3 launched with two variants, one that was $499 and another with more storage that was $599. Both were more expensive than the PS5 Pro is. $499 in 2007 dollars is $756.99 today. $599 is $908.69. That's just how much less our money is worth today.
The audacity for $700 to show it on a stand then put in print below it “stand sold separately” is just crazy. No disc drive? Even with that included it’s not worth $700!
They raised the price by 40% from the base PS5 for marginal improvements... and then took away the base and the disc drive, making it actually at least 60% more expensive. The hubris.
When the PS4 Pro launched, it took the original PS4's launch price of $399 and the PS4 Slim launched at a reduced $299. Today the PS5 costs more than what it launched at and the PS5 Pro starts at $699 and doesn't even include a disc drive. Shows the difference between 2010s competitive Sony and 2020s complacent Sony.
@@ottolehto they are, but this markup is far past that. And even if it was completely outside their control, maybe they just, uh don't make a PS5 Pro. Who will buy this?
Why wouldn’t I just spend $1000 on a decent gaming rig? $1000 for a PS5 pro is just insanity, considering you gotta pay for a stand, an extra controller, membership, etc.
Fun Fact: As a game dev, you cannot export a .exe to any other device without some kind of license. PC? Yup, insert flash drive and go. The ultimate gaming machine. We need to get back to that.
@@StaredownGames Generally executables can run on any environment they're compiled for, a license isn't needed necessarily buts it's common in commercial software.
Also a lot of playstation games are on pc anyway, so you can just hook up the gaming rig to a TV and use steam big picture mode if you want a console experience.
$700. Disk Drive costs $80. Stand costs $30. Increased controller prices. Only 13-50 games enhanced at launch. Not even kidding. How Ponies still try to defend Sony is literally a mental issue at this point.
Don't forget PS plus. Quite possibly the biggest wool pulled over everyone's eyes. Paying to play online, when it always has been, and still is, free on PC (aside from MMO's)
@neda9438 and look at how gaming is now.. terrible! It's the worst it's ever been. At least Nintendo isn't doing bad. The ps5 the ps5 pro and Sony playstation right now is super cringe
@@Charlesdayis I think they know what they’re doing. They need MONEY. I can’t even go to the grocery store without wincing. The world is getting worse. Keep whining about prices. We’re all fucked anyway.
What makes it even worse in the UK is that £699, when converted to USD, is $913.38 which means we're getting far less worth in our purchase than the Americans. It's similar stories for the other Europeans who use Euros and the Japanese. What a godawful ripoff
I complained about this once before & was told that UK prices include VAT & US prices don't. So they don't actually pay $699, they pay more than that. Still, seems a little too coincidental doesn't it.
@@hectorj.romanp.most CEO’s have admitted by this point that they raised prices just because they could, not because their production costs increased. example:Target CEO, target is now lowering prices as they lost market share. If you want more examples please do your own research and educate yourself. Nothing wrong with being wrong, nothing wrong with learning something new.
@@thelarry383true but it made up a big chunk of ps4 sales from time it launched until the end which is the more relevant data. Course it didn’t sell well prior to existing. 26% of consoles sold during its release to end of generation. Probably sold better if it was around at launch considering most don’t upgrade. Though given current prices I’d be surprised if this one sells as well. PS4 pro came in at original ps4 price
@@sly2792004 PS4 sales were at 50 million on Dec 2016 (PS4 pro launched in Nov 2016). PS4 pro sold 14 million up until 2020 while PS4 sold another 50 million in the same timeframe. These are numbers from the PS4/5 game sales leak Past generations, we've had the luxury of price drops which unfortunately won't be the case this gen.
Im a PlayStation fan, but I've never wanted Xbox to get their shit together more than I have after this announcement. Xbox has only just begun to capitulate to their inevitable station as a mere 3rd-party publisher, and yet Sony is _immediately_ reminding us why every market sector *needs* competition.
Microsoft can't get outta their own damn way either. They are too dialed in to being the Netflix of gaming. Neither can pull there head far enough out of there ass to see what they're doing.
@drewbreezy5854 the thing with xbox is they give a service that isn't beneficial for them, for the gamers it's super beneficial. The fact that they couldn't convert or convince older xbox clients to come back is where the issue is. Most went to pc and them releasing their games on pc kills the whole idea of owning an Xbox. Sony players are just too loyal to Playstation, the ps4 era was so strong they went 8 years without thinking once I want an Xbox, it's hard to convince a new generation unless people start boycotting Sony and buying xbox nothing will change and Sony will keep doing what it's doing
Xbox isn’t the answer. That has been clear for over a decade. Time to let it go. There’s a limited number of missteps you can give a console a pass on and Xbox is long past that. The Dreamcast had one misstep and gracefully pulled out. Xbox is stubborn and refuses to rip the Band-Aid off.
@@codezero7981 in what way? By being a distant third place in its own territory, and only being relevant in that territory while the rest of the world doesn’t care? By putting their exclusives on PS5? By missing out on third party games due to Series S limitations? By the way, I’m looking for a side gig, would you recommend Xbox shilling? How much does it pay?
Digital Only and 800€?? I was very interested in this as I don't have a PS5 yet, but the price is already ridiculous and the fact it's digital only made me lose all interest immediately.
Exactly. I don’t think we’re going to fully hit “Next-Gen” until the PlayStation 6. Even then, I think they’ll be making games cross-gen games for the PS4/PS5/PS6.
@@drewbreezy5854 It's crazy that from a spectator's perspective, my only regret of not having a PS5 was Demon's Souls for the longest time, a game I can play on PC already just without the enhancements. And then somehow 4 years went by, and just now since the release of Astro Bot have I seen something else that would interest me. And then the third thing, GTA 6, is coming a year from now. It's just so crazy to me idk. As a person with a PC for third party stuff I just don't think I can justify getting it, even though I really want Demon's Souls and I will be sad waiting a year for GTA 6 to come over to PC. Like, yeah, that's gonna be sad, but holy hell, getting it just for three titles seems absolutely crazy to me no matter what they are. I'm not going insane right? This is not normal for a console generation right? Where the hell are the games?
& no stand. gonna make sure u pay the 20€ for it. overall not worth it. 60fps in "fidelity mode" whatever most games dont look bad in performance mode anyway
£700? Nah, I'll just update my GPU instead (if I feel the need). Effing rip off merchants are all Sony are. 700 squids for the right to pay 60 quid a game at mid-tier performance and a monthly fee on top to play it, no thank you Sony.
Kutaragi said it was the Ferrari of consoles and you may need to take on a second job. This is so much worse. At least they had a $500 version then, and were spending a lot of R&D on custom hardware. Now they just use PC architecture slightly modified
@magnawaves The PS5 has plenty of games, but less than ten actually bring the console to its limits, so the PS5 Pro actually does have a grand total of, like, six games.
@@robbyrobot3303 I mean in Sony’s defense, they technically have a $500 version; the regular PS5. Still, really setting a bad precedent when there’s now finally a new $700 console after 31 years, especially with poorly optimized games seemingly increasingly rampant.
$950 Canadian is insane! You can build a PC with a mid ranged card for that price and get 100+ fps in most games. Consoles just aren't worth it anymore, they're no longer better value.
I got a 4080, one of the best GPUs out there, for £550 which is about 700 canadian I think. PCs arent that expensive if you have one already lying around. Just throw in a 2080 or above GPU, a 10th-11th gen CPU and some ram for around $900 total to have a high end PC that stomps the PS5 already. Cheaper if you only want to match the PS5. 4080 is over 4x the power of the PS5P so, you know, youve got wiggle room for less
I’ve seen people telling others it’s worth it and we’re all just coping which is pretty much the same sentiment. Fools and their money are soon parted.
@@johnnybgoode8104 That's fine but fuck Sony, it's wild that you can buy another ps5 for the price you're gonna pay to upgrade to a pro that doesn't even include a stand.
At this price point, sticking to PC and buying the Playstation and Xbox games on Steam instead is actually the *cheaper* route, even with a $1k+ gaming PC.
Yep, same here. So many of the games I wanted to play on PS5 are on PC so I thought I'd get the Pro purely to play GTA6 with best graphics. Screw that at £700, I'm going to get a beat up 2nd hand base PS5 for cheap to play GTA6 until the PC release. EDIT: Na, not even that. I'll get a 2nd hand Series X so if something else catches my eye, I'll be spending in Microsoft's ecosystem.
@@pkbeast you can literally play every xbox game on pc, Xbox's are literally useless, exect for those 1-2 games that 3rd party publishers don't put on pc
Good comment for likes and stirring people up, but still not accurate. Its not like the PS5 Pro is the only console that exists. There's nothing that will convince me that my main and only machine for playing games is the one that gets all buggy every time a driver is updated.
Before the announcement I was actually considering upgrading to the PS5 pro even with only minor graphical improvements in mind. However 700 GBP without a disc drive is just insane. I was expecting 600 or 650 WITH a disc drive.
At 650 with a disc drive I honestly was considering it. 700 + $80 for a disc drive is just too much. Even if they announce a $750 model with a disc drive. Clearly I'm not the market demographic, but who the heck is?
I've been gaming since the 2600. In my opinion this has been the worst console generation there has been. Because the way this generation has gone, I've already been telling my friends that I wouldn't be getting another console that's not made by Nintendo. These prices are just one more thing that confirms for me that this is the case. I'm always going to have a PC, I no longer see a reason to have a Sony or MS console.
Me since the nes and master system; couldn't agree more. It's like Microsoft and Sony aren't even trying. The most progress these days is indie development tbh
@@JohnCovington5 What exclusive games? The ones that in 6 months will also release in the other platforms? It's no longer economically viable to make a game exclusive to a single platform, all the Final Fantasy games that have come out on PS4 and PS5 clearly show that, people ain't gonna buy a 500 to 700 $ machine just to play the new final fantasy or whatever game, they are gonna wait for the PC release or the release on their respective platform, the only reason console exclusives work on nintendo it's because you can get a switch super cheap specially if you buy used, makes it look more like a toy, than an actual electronic device.
@@George-on5hi So I don't really game on console but are disc drives still a big thing? I mean if you're using them for watching blu rays then I suppose so but I mean for gaming. I guess I'm just so used to Steam that the idea of buying games on a disc seems somewhat foreign to me.
@@TheEffectOfMassnot really, because a PC is way more useful that a console. And at the price point Sony is asking for the PRO an equally priced gpu is considerably more powerful.
Sony was doing crack. The lines on the side of the PS5 Pro are the indicators. What a way to completely ruin the 30th anniversary of the console lifeline. More respect was shown towards the 25th anniversary of Dreamcast than this.
It can play PS4 and enhance some titles, but 110945.96 Yen for the Disc version is absolutely NO. I just bought a M2 Super Mac computer! It’s going to have to wait or Sony cuts the crap and lowers the price
Not to mention, A PC DOES MORE THAN JUST GAMING! But kudos, that's a solid build for the price. Also if you factor in the disc drive, stand, and PS plus you might be able to make it that much better to boot ;)
4 years later I'm pretty happy I never wasted money on a PS5. Maybe I'm just not as into games as I was but there's really not a thing I want to play on PS5 that I can't play on PC.
I have the base model and it just collects dust. I have both gow games and both Spider-Man games. I beat gow which was cool but then I started playing Spider-Man and it felt like I was playing the same game with a different skin. So I haven’t played the 2nd part to neither game yet. I was especially disappointed with Spider-Man, the most fun I had was web swinging. In my opinion the older marvel games were much more fun. The games are visually appealing tho.
@@ElijahThomas-o4rWen slinging is amazing. Sadly, Everything else is repetitive and boring. I never finished the remake and never played my copy of Miles Morales
@@arnoldmorales9189deadass! and me as an adult recognizes that these games feel more like doing task or chores than they do actual games. Where tf is the fun?? The new generation of gaming is ass!
Bro, when PS3 was released, it was cheaper than the cheapest Blue-Ray player on the market. So basically you were getting console option for free and still cheaper than the cheapest Blue Ray player.
@@gondorianslayer4250because Xbox wasn't trying? System is whack, and their exclusives come to PS eventually. And Nintendo is not going against Sony. They have no reason to.
There is competition..this is what happens when you have brain dead fanboys who never hold them accountable for any of their bs. Xbox fans hold MS accountable all the time.
R7 5800X3D and an RX 7700XT would perform the same when using an upscaler like the pro does, would cost a tad more but that tad is worth it over this when you get so many perks like GOG games and emulation and a web browser etc.
I was laughing so hard IRL just how ridiculous this was. The price and it having a separate disc drive + stand you have to buy? absolute insanity. One of the worst things Sony decided since the PS3 pricing
100% agree. The pricing is really bad. I don't see many people buying this. if it was 649 with the Disc Drive included, I might have considered it. But 699 with no Disc Drive and Vertical stand is a rip off. And apparently that's the price with no Tax included. Here in Europe its 800 euro, and 950 with the vertical stand and Disc Drive included. So the PS3 in comparison doesn't seem so bad. Because it could Play PS1, PS2 and PS3 games in a single box.
This is worse than the PS3 in a situational degree, but at least the base PS5 already exists. My fear is Sony are going to gradually take away the base PS5.
@@DeadPhoenix86DPIf you have the base PS5, it’s already enough. I would say it’s better than the PS5 Pro if you have the disc version of the OG PS5 just not in 4k 60fps or with raytracing 60
Not really. They've correctly identified their consumer base as being idiots/Apple like so they'll accept and defend anything Sony does and puts out there. Smart move by Sony and not shocking to anyone that's been paying attention to Sony.
£699.99 is $915. Sony is screwing everyone hard outside the US and even $700 is too much. Fuck Sony, I am done with them. Between not supporting the PSVR2, Barely bringing out any new games, charging fortunes for the Pro, raising prices of the PS5 and basically just treating everyone outside the USA like shit. I am selling my PS5 and just upgrading my PC instead. Not giving them any more of my money.
Sony drunk with power. Almost 800 after tax with no disc drive in the package for minimal visual upgrades? Not to mention no games really even pushing the original hardware......this is MADNESS
I hope this isn't something that they're secretly banking on, like that they have suffered several financial blows on several fronts that they've kept from the public. Surely the games sales don't lie!
@@One-ct3xe I hate to break it to you but Sony is fine financially, I know its hard to grasp but they don't just do vidja gaemz, they didn't spend 200 million on Concord, Concord was finished in 2022, Fire Walk was looking for a studio to publish when Sony acquired them no matter how many time imbeciles try to pretend Sony footed the bill. Not everything needs to be priced for welfare recipients, its OK to have a premium item for people who want one and can afford one. They're looking to sell it to people whom want one not something to sell to everyone....ANYONE who replaces their 1,500 phone every 6 months can STFU and sit down
*110945.96 Yen for the Disc version is absolutely NO. I just bought a M2 Super Mac computer! It’s going to have to wait or Sony cuts the crap and lowers the price!*
@@Thanosdidtherighthing On the contrary, it's one of the main selling points for me. No disc drive = no sale. As soon as consoles go full digital, I'm moving to PC gaming.
Nintendo seems to be doing just fine. I think if Microsoft has a decent showing at Tokyo Game Show they might be able to get some small foothold in Japan, as the PS5 jumped nearly $100 in price over there and I doubt that’s going over well with average consumers.
The PS5 Pro closely hits the 1000 euro mark in Europe. 800 euros for the base digital only version, 120 euros for the disc drive, 30 euros for the stand. 950 euros total if you want a "regular" console. Insane. If that is the future, I'm out.
@@chasejackson7248 It's crazy how all of these people can't save up 700-800 USD... And then again, It's still a long way until the PS6 so it isn't even a yearly purchase like Apple products
@@chasejackson7248 He's not poor, he's just not like the rest of the idiots who agree with corporate greed. Just because I can afford it doesn't mean I'm settling for less.️🤷🏻♂️
The ps5 doesnt even have that many "must play" games, and most of them are on PC also. You can build a PC for slightly more money that will outperform this, play most of its games within 6 months of release, and be able to play all the current PC games also. This thing is just a waste of money.
Slightly more money...the GPU on the PS5 pro is on par with a 3080 .so that's like a 4070 ..7800xt .to build a gaming PC with that power would cost close to 2k
What does this have to do with PS4? Just because those players get the same game to play, that you have on PS5 Pro? I wish all games would come out for last gen as well. Besides games that cannot run well. I hate exclusivity.
Yeah but the Ps4 isn't going to last forever. You should focus on upgrading your TV for your base PS5. This is for people who have 4k tvs capable of 120 frames a second, with VRR. It is going to be better console.
Sony has gone completely insane. 800€? 120.000¥?! Without stand or disc drive no less. These prices are an insult to every gamer outside the US. 4 years ago those prices would have been 700€ and 70.000¥. But this simply isn’t worth it. By this time in the generation the base ps5 should’ve gone down to 400$ though and the pro should’ve been sold at 600$. This is what happens when Xbox stops being a competitor. Sony thinks they’re the next Apple and Nvidia.
It doesn't matter. Scalpers will buy them all, shareholders will see number go up, and Sony is happy. This isn't a product with it's own ecosystem so it's not going to hurt player population economy, just like The Portal. It's what any greedy company on top would do.
@@Mojaveknight17 omg, gtfo It’s got nothing to do with having a job or not. This simply highway robbery. I wouldn’t buy this shit if I was a millionaire, period.
@@lambasted6886 I’m not so sure about this. The discourse around this will be highly critical in the media, not only from random twitter, reddit and YT comments. I don’t see scalpers buying this. I also don’t see many users buying this. If Sony can get a 10% share of their overall ps5 units sold be PS5Pro I’d be surprised.
You can thank the scalpers for that, as far as NVIDIA is concerned. The cut out the middle man and decided to scalp price their GPU's themselves. What a bunch of good guys, that care about gamers
Sony is freaking insane. They can’t get prices down on the PS5 and even have to drive them up after 4 years, and you still have a large base sticking with PS4. So their idea was to release a $700 disc-less Pro system?!
Yep and many of us who can afford one will purchase one because we have actual jobs....Not everything needs to be priced for welfare recipients and kiddie part time cashiers. Its OK to have a premium console just for people who can afford it and want it. Just like the Series X when 75% of MS hardware sales are the Series S
@@lutherheggs451a gaming console that has been selling extremely well and releasing an updated version doesn't need to be 700 dollars and without a disc drive or stand. I would actually understand $700 with a disc drive, but this ain't it. I'll think about purchasing one around the release date of GTA 6 and that's if there is a discount at some point.
This showcase was just a question of "why". Why would we want this thing. Why is it priced so high. Why would we bother buying it. Why would you showcase a new console skew without pairing it with a new title. Why are there no new titles for us to even want a new skew for. Why would it not include a disc drive for such an outrageous price or even a vertical stand. Why is something (vertical stand) you can make with a 3D printer considered a premium extra to a premium edition of a console. Why is that not part of the product.
@@Mojaveknight17 And uninterested because they gave consumers no motivation to acquire the damn thing. Hell, they didn't even provide motivation to acquire the BASE ps5 outside of FoMo.
@@bdashrye182 I get that problem too, UA-cam automatically puts the notification to personalized instead of all for some reason. It’s been like that for years. It gets annoying.
I'm going to preface this with the fact that I've only ever owned Nintendo consoles and an Xbox One S: I think I'd be happy with 1080p 60FPS for the rest of my life, so long as the games ran well. The pursuit of graphical fidelity at this nothing but an excuse to overinflate prices and file sizes.
@@snakeplissken5969still not worth it. A decent 4.0 NVME 2TB drive costs £80. Also Sony should’ve stuck with a 1tb version, most ps5 users probably have a 2TB nvme installed which they could transfer over to the Pro (at least those considering to upgrade to pro).
This is ridiculously, i am a gamer that can buy a ps5 pro, but this is CRAZY for a little bit more. In Euro is the price 860 Dollar! No disc and stand. BUY a PC or build one instead!
@@haocongkevinzhu1451 I would still be willing to spend a little more on a pc as it's more multi purpose than this and a much larger pool of games. There really haven't been enough ps5 exclusive games that would make me able to justify that big a price tag even tho I could afford it.
Sony has lost the plot of Console gaming, it's suppose to be simple and affordable. They're giving everyone of their Customers a reason to go PC gaming instead. Eventually, Microsoft a Nintendo will follow.
Dana Carvey really looked in our eyes and said : And this is why game takes 8 years to make and why the videogame landscape cost so much right now. i am now awaiting your applause.
What a dick. if that's the case then maybe make the generation last longer instead of shoveling the next console down our throat at $600 after 7 years.
Don't forget Sony takes 30% of games and charges you monthly in order to play online. The PS4 pro was just over twice as good as the PS4 for only 100 dollars more. Even if you account for inflation for 300 dollars more, the PS5 pro should be twice as good as the PS5. This is a scam.
This is what happens with no competition. The customer loses. Underwhelming and overpriced products. No disc drive and not even a stand is absolutely insane.
@@HalcyonEX That’s not the point. Sony knows that Xbox is done and now they’re getting cocky. Increasing prices on PS Plus, their controllers, their base ps5s. Had Xbox been a real rival with lots of good exclusives that don’t go to ps5 and had a similar pro product we wouldn’t have seen this.
@@Lock2002ful idk man everything in America these days is costing more and more money including groceries and bills it makes sense the pro being this expensive in this economy I didn't think Xbox has anything to do with it
Counter point. Technology historically gets cheaper over time, not saying the PS1 is cheaper in 2024, it should be that a ps5 in 2024 shouldn't cost that original $300. Look at home TV's. Those used to cost insane prices for the time and now you can buy a modern tv for $50. (Of course packed with bloat that subsidize the price, I'm not trying to skew the info)
@@lordrahl7033 Yep, should've checked the statistics closer, as apparently that 60 cents number was wholesale prices from the refinery... But the national average was still only $1.11 in 1994, which would only be $2.36/gallon adjusted for inflation, but the national average right now is $3.28... So the point still stands... You can't just say something makes sense because of inflation... Inflation doesn't scale the same for everything, or everywhere (even inside of the same country)... A better comparison would be to take the average cost of living vs the average salaries in 1994 and comparing to 2024 cost of living/salary... I don't feel like looking all of that up and doing the math, but maybe someone else will...
Why would anyone but the very small audience of tech lovers pay that much to play their 4 exclusive games at a higher frame rate? I’m not even criticizing the price point necessarily. Just the fact they thought this thing would sell at all when they’ve made so few exclusive games for the base ps5 to begin with is actually asinine
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Everyone so hungry for Xbox to fail at every hurdle, and THIS is what the future would be if it was just Sony left. Sony free to take the p"ss out of consumers..
Yeah it’s pretty much as I expected. Only thing that will make this sell like hotcakes is if PS5 Pro runs GTA6 at 60fps. Sony I’m sure is outside Rockstar begging to utilize the Pro.
PS3 was like $600 dollars, That’s why everyone was hyped about PS4 price. The base PS5 is $500. I mean cmon, realistically what were people expecting the Pro to cost?
700$ and they couldn't even included the damn piece of plastic to keep it upright
Apple vibes.
That's why I'm curious on how much the console actually cost them
I get the idea that they wouldn't make a console for a small minority of people if they lost money selling it when they could've just opted not to and still keep enthusiasts
That's the US price, in Europe, it's $100 more expensive - and that factors in VAT.
We've lost Misty... And Jesse now sailor Jupiter
Still priced better than the PS3 was. The PS3 launched with two variants, one that was $499 and another with more storage that was $599. Both were more expensive than the PS5 Pro is. $499 in 2007 dollars is $756.99 today. $599 is $908.69. That's just how much less our money is worth today.
The audacity for $700 to show it on a stand then put in print below it “stand sold separately” is just crazy. No disc drive? Even with that included it’s not worth $700!
Lol stand sold seperatley..that made me laugh
Get a job lazy guy
Noone really buy that stand , even the PS5 slim can stand vertically on itself very well.
They raised the price by 40% from the base PS5 for marginal improvements... and then took away the base and the disc drive, making it actually at least 60% more expensive. The hubris.
That's my only gripe. I'm starting to feel like they're raising the price or charging for everything.
When the PS4 Pro launched, it took the original PS4's launch price of $399 and the PS4 Slim launched at a reduced $299. Today the PS5 costs more than what it launched at and the PS5 Pro starts at $699 and doesn't even include a disc drive. Shows the difference between 2010s competitive Sony and 2020s complacent Sony.
Yes, Sony is complacent. The only additional factor is that the global economy, supply chains, and chip production are in the dumps as well.
@@ottolehto they are, but this markup is far past that. And even if it was completely outside their control, maybe they just, uh don't make a PS5 Pro. Who will buy this?
preorders will sellout @@krisc1684
Shows the difference between 2010s economy and chip prices in 2024
Meanwhile iPhone this year cost same as it did when ps5 came out.
Why wouldn’t I just spend $1000 on a decent gaming rig? $1000 for a PS5 pro is just insanity, considering you gotta pay for a stand, an extra controller, membership, etc.
Fun Fact: As a game dev, you cannot export a .exe to any other device without some kind of license.
PC? Yup, insert flash drive and go. The ultimate gaming machine. We need to get back to that.
@@StaredownGames Generally executables can run on any environment they're compiled for, a license isn't needed necessarily buts it's common in commercial software.
Also a lot of playstation games are on pc anyway, so you can just hook up the gaming rig to a TV and use steam big picture mode if you want a console experience.
Because you can't get a decent gaming rig for $1000. $1000 won't even cover a decent GPU
@@Zoeila uh yes you can. $1000 can get you a 4070 GTX with 16 gb of ram with a Ryzen 5700X 8 core. Also, Steam is free.
Sony getting cocky again
@@Mojaveknight17 Get a brain
Sony smoking crack
Sony: You should be proud to get a second job to buy this console... 😒
Sony: you’re getting a slightly better PS5 for $700 everyone else: how many times must we have to teach a lesson old man?
*PS3 era war flashbacks intensifies*
A $700 USD console with _no disk drive_ Is absolutely diabolical...
Im buying 2.
@@hardys1977 always the brainwashed fanboys. Enjoy them man.
@@hardys1977rip.
I’m not buying it, have a ps5 with a disc drive
it's an optional upgrade. for most people, the regular ps5 will suffice.
$700. Disk Drive costs $80. Stand costs $30. Increased controller prices. Only 13-50 games enhanced at launch. Not even kidding. How Ponies still try to defend Sony is literally a mental issue at this point.
Don't forget PS plus. Quite possibly the biggest wool pulled over everyone's eyes. Paying to play online, when it always has been, and still is, free on PC (aside from MMO's)
No is forcing you to buy a disc drive or stand.
You don't have to buy it....🤷♂
@@Thanosdidtherighthing Found one
Check the official PS videos for the Pro. It's safe to say that even the fanboys are pissed.
Sony went from the biggest flop in gaming history with concord to the biggest ripoff in gaming history with the ps5 pro👎👎
Sony has literally no idea what they are doing right now. So many horrible decisions lately
They said the same about the ps5 and it sold millions of consoles
They have no competition and are acting in monopolistic way. People craved Xbox failure and this is what we get and it’s only just beginning
@neda9438 and look at how gaming is now.. terrible! It's the worst it's ever been. At least Nintendo isn't doing bad. The ps5 the ps5 pro and Sony playstation right now is super cringe
@@Charlesdayis I think they know what they’re doing. They need MONEY. I can’t even go to the grocery store without wincing. The world is getting worse. Keep whining about prices. We’re all fucked anyway.
Astro Bot could have saved PlayStation and help drive PS5 sales up.
But, nah, they decided to end that winning streak less than a week after release…
Nintendo should definitely come out soon and announce the Switch 2 at $399, the optics would be great for them.
No it's gonna be 500$
That's way too low 500 minimum
@@Name-tn3md That's funny because I actually inflated the price since rumors are that the lowest priced SKU on the Switch 2 will launch at $349.99
It will be $500, and no way will it have so few games.
@@NoonDragoon seeing is beliving
What makes it even worse in the UK is that £699, when converted to USD, is $913.38 which means we're getting far less worth in our purchase than the Americans. It's similar stories for the other Europeans who use Euros and the Japanese. What a godawful ripoff
Just move to the US😂
Good
In Canada it is almost around the same price. I can't even imagine how bad it is in Australia...
@@exonymat1471 And the disc drive is 120€ in europe.
I complained about this once before & was told that UK prices include VAT & US prices don't. So they don't actually pay $699, they pay more than that.
Still, seems a little too coincidental doesn't it.
In a world that makes sense the refreshed PS5 Slim would be 399 by now and the PS5 Pro 599 without the need to buy accessories.
At this rate, PS6 will probably retail for $999.99 with controller sold separately due to "Inflation".
@@SSGoatanks😂😂😂
Do you have knowledge about production costs?
@@hectorj.romanp.most CEO’s have admitted by this point that they raised prices just because they could, not because their production costs increased. example:Target CEO, target is now lowering prices as they lost market share. If you want more examples please do your own research and educate yourself. Nothing wrong with being wrong, nothing wrong with learning something new.
@@Archchill, so, inflation is a myth.
Consumers responded accordingly to Concord.
Now time to do the same for PS5 Pro.
the Pro consoles were never meant to be big sales items. PS4 pro was vastly outsold by the base PS4
@@thelarry383true but it made up a big chunk of ps4 sales from time it launched until the end which is the more relevant data. Course it didn’t sell well prior to existing. 26% of consoles sold during its release to end of generation. Probably sold better if it was around at launch considering most don’t upgrade. Though given current prices I’d be surprised if this one sells as well. PS4 pro came in at original ps4 price
@@sly2792004 PS4 sales were at 50 million on Dec 2016 (PS4 pro launched in Nov 2016). PS4 pro sold 14 million up until 2020 while PS4 sold another 50 million in the same timeframe. These are numbers from the PS4/5 game sales leak
Past generations, we've had the luxury of price drops which unfortunately won't be the case this gen.
as with any corporation, you must speak with your wallet. It's the only language they know.
Potentially $810 for the disc drive and vertical stand... and still doesn't include PS+ subscription
Ps6 will be over $1,000
That's not including tax either.
@@sly2792004PC ftw😂😂
Which is mostly worthless if you don't get the premium tier anyway.
don’t forget that the PS5 controllers are so shit. The stick drift problem is crazy stupid
$700 with no disk drive is a pass. My base PS5 will be fine for now lol.
Same
The industry is really pushing digital only, isn't?
@@80sForever29 seems like it unfortunately
@@80sForever29 at least we still have an option to buy a disc drive, I don't know if that option still exists for the PS6.
@@80sForever29 Yeah. Just wait for Nintendo Switch 2 to be fully digital also.
Im a PlayStation fan, but I've never wanted Xbox to get their shit together more than I have after this announcement.
Xbox has only just begun to capitulate to their inevitable station as a mere 3rd-party publisher, and yet Sony is _immediately_ reminding us why every market sector *needs* competition.
Microsoft can't get outta their own damn way either. They are too dialed in to being the Netflix of gaming. Neither can pull there head far enough out of there ass to see what they're doing.
@drewbreezy5854 the thing with xbox is they give a service that isn't beneficial for them, for the gamers it's super beneficial. The fact that they couldn't convert or convince older xbox clients to come back is where the issue is. Most went to pc and them releasing their games on pc kills the whole idea of owning an Xbox. Sony players are just too loyal to Playstation, the ps4 era was so strong they went 8 years without thinking once I want an Xbox, it's hard to convince a new generation unless people start boycotting Sony and buying xbox nothing will change and Sony will keep doing what it's doing
Xbox isn’t the answer. That has been clear for over a decade. Time to let it go. There’s a limited number of missteps you can give a console a pass on and Xbox is long past that. The Dreamcast had one misstep and gracefully pulled out. Xbox is stubborn and refuses to rip the Band-Aid off.
@@shecklesmack9563 Xbox is better than PlayStation.
@@codezero7981 in what way? By being a distant third place in its own territory, and only being relevant in that territory while the rest of the world doesn’t care? By putting their exclusives on PS5? By missing out on third party games due to Series S limitations? By the way, I’m looking for a side gig, would you recommend Xbox shilling? How much does it pay?
Digital Only and 800€??
I was very interested in this as I don't have a PS5 yet, but the price is already ridiculous and the fact it's digital only made me lose all interest immediately.
hopefully it drives down the price of the non-pro models
Same for me, I still need a PS5 because I wanna play the 3 exclusives it has but this... nahhhhh
Games cost 80€ or 70€ with the disc version and the disc drive costs 100€. online play costs 80€ a year. Better to just get a PC at this point.
Deadass if you really need a ps5 just get the base version, don’t waste your money on the pro
@@scamperlyit won’t unless a decent amount of people buy them but they just increased the price of the PS5 in Japan.
Finally, I can play enhanced PS4 games while the bank repossesses my house.
Exactly. I don’t think we’re going to fully hit “Next-Gen” until the PlayStation 6. Even then, I think they’ll be making games cross-gen games for the PS4/PS5/PS6.
Life goals I guess
I guessed $650 in the poll. $700 is insane, especially since there isn't even a disk drive. Sony can get fkd with this mess.
It’s cheaper than a 4090
its just 200 usd more than the current ps5. You get 2tb fast ssd and basically4k 60fps on everything. stop crying
@@exiledhebrew1994 And it's more expensive than a 4070.
@@Paulo-i9h That's if every dev somehow made their games to run on 4k +60 FPS
@@Paulo-i9hyou buy the console but have no money left for games
I still haven't found a reason to spend the money on the regular PS5...
Maybe gta6? But probably not with a barrier on entry to this degree.
My ps5 collects dust... had a few good games but I'm disappointed I bought it at launch
@@drewbreezy5854 It's crazy that from a spectator's perspective, my only regret of not having a PS5 was Demon's Souls for the longest time, a game I can play on PC already just without the enhancements. And then somehow 4 years went by, and just now since the release of Astro Bot have I seen something else that would interest me. And then the third thing, GTA 6, is coming a year from now. It's just so crazy to me idk. As a person with a PC for third party stuff I just don't think I can justify getting it, even though I really want Demon's Souls and I will be sad waiting a year for GTA 6 to come over to PC. Like, yeah, that's gonna be sad, but holy hell, getting it just for three titles seems absolutely crazy to me no matter what they are. I'm not going insane right? This is not normal for a console generation right? Where the hell are the games?
@@jaredjones1846 Pretty much mine too. I get it out for Spiderman and a few of the games from when I got rid of my PS4.
800 euro's...without a discdrive...
What are they smoking at Sony?
Your money😮
& no stand. gonna make sure u pay the 20€ for it. overall not worth it. 60fps in "fidelity mode" whatever most games dont look bad in performance mode anyway
@@Mojaveknight17 nope, not mine this time
£700? Nah, I'll just update my GPU instead (if I feel the need). Effing rip off merchants are all Sony are. 700 squids for the right to pay 60 quid a game at mid-tier performance and a monthly fee on top to play it, no thank you Sony.
must be special kind of crack they smoking over there but let`s not forget the psVR...that didn`t sell untill they cut the price in half
920 euros if you want to play physical games in europe, this is insane.
I've been a PC hater and console defender since day 1 and I'm really planning to switch to PC at this point because sony has lost their marbles
950 with stand
@@Ceelo_8 PC is much more expensive! I own both
@@bfhandsomeface409 yup, better than paying 900€ for a physical ps5 pro at mid life. Atleast I'll be able to pirate games on PC
@bfhandsomeface409 it does not have to be.
Back in 2006 the original PS3 fat was getting meme'd on for costing *"five hundred and ninety-nine U.S. dollars"* and now we have this🤣
History does repeat itself
Kutaragi said it was the Ferrari of consoles and you may need to take on a second job. This is so much worse.
At least they had a $500 version then, and were spending a lot of R&D on custom hardware. Now they just use PC architecture slightly modified
They also said ps3 has no games, but the ps5 truly has none lmao
@magnawaves The PS5 has plenty of games, but less than ten actually bring the console to its limits, so the PS5 Pro actually does have a grand total of, like, six games.
@@robbyrobot3303 I mean in Sony’s defense, they technically have a $500 version; the regular PS5.
Still, really setting a bad precedent when there’s now finally a new $700 console after 31 years, especially with poorly optimized games seemingly increasingly rampant.
No disc means no buy for me. Im not rebuying my physical games for this.
$950 Canadian is insane! You can build a PC with a mid ranged card for that price and get 100+ fps in most games. Consoles just aren't worth it anymore, they're no longer better value.
Got my PC earlier this year and started pirating. Best decision ever.
I got a 4080, one of the best GPUs out there, for £550 which is about 700 canadian I think.
PCs arent that expensive if you have one already lying around. Just throw in a 2080 or above GPU, a 10th-11th gen CPU and some ram for around $900 total to have a high end PC that stomps the PS5 already. Cheaper if you only want to match the PS5. 4080 is over 4x the power of the PS5P so, you know, youve got wiggle room for less
The ps5 base will still exist lol
False this game PC will be way better than a $950 PC.
The switch 2 will be worth it
I have yet to find a comment that says "heck yeah, I'm down for that"
No one like it, only the scalpers because there looking at there pocketbook blow up!
I’ve seen people telling others it’s worth it and we’re all just coping which is pretty much the same sentiment. Fools and their money are soon parted.
@@Nobddy perfect way you’re saying it that Sony fanboys give Sony all their money.
I’m not judging anyone. I’m not knocking anyone. I want everyone to have fun. I am going to trade in my PS5 for credit and getting the Pro
@@johnnybgoode8104 That's fine but fuck Sony, it's wild that you can buy another ps5 for the price you're gonna pay to upgrade to a pro that doesn't even include a stand.
At this price point, sticking to PC and buying the Playstation and Xbox games on Steam instead is actually the *cheaper* route, even with a $1k+ gaming PC.
And emulation on pc too.
Yep, same here. So many of the games I wanted to play on PS5 are on PC so I thought I'd get the Pro purely to play GTA6 with best graphics. Screw that at £700, I'm going to get a beat up 2nd hand base PS5 for cheap to play GTA6 until the PC release.
EDIT: Na, not even that. I'll get a 2nd hand Series X so if something else catches my eye, I'll be spending in Microsoft's ecosystem.
What is a good graphics card under 1k?
@@pkbeast you can literally play every xbox game on pc, Xbox's are literally useless, exect for those 1-2 games that 3rd party publishers don't put on pc
Good comment for likes and stirring people up, but still not accurate. Its not like the PS5 Pro is the only console that exists. There's nothing that will convince me that my main and only machine for playing games is the one that gets all buggy every time a driver is updated.
Sony is like Apple. Testing the water and see how dumb their fans is
$3500 Apple vision pro life 😂
Well Given their track record I would say VERY VERY what you said but I can't say or be censored...
Before the announcement I was actually considering upgrading to the PS5 pro even with only minor graphical improvements in mind. However 700 GBP without a disc drive is just insane. I was expecting 600 or 650 WITH a disc drive.
At 650 with a disc drive I honestly was considering it. 700 + $80 for a disc drive is just too much. Even if they announce a $750 model with a disc drive. Clearly I'm not the market demographic, but who the heck is?
I think it’s obvious Sony is completely out of touch with gamers.
Yeah clearly. They're are trying to stay in touch with their money though
Sony lost the plot when they moved their PlayStation HQ from Japan to California. This has been a long time coming.
@@JJAB91too many women and liberal men working at sony
@@JJAB91Sony was ALWAYS out of touch with Gamers.
You guys just love to complain.
Man Sony really is determined to capture Concords losses by any means possible
There punishing players for not buying their game 😂
Yep the great “Concord Failure” tax.
cant wait for the CEO to complain about how nobody wants to go into debt for them "anymore"
All their loses this generation...I'm trying to squint to see a single win out of them.
7:30 or, instead of increasing the price to 750 to include the drive, THEY COULD JUST INCLUDE THE DRIVE IN THE 700 DOLLAR VERSION.
I've been gaming since the 2600. In my opinion this has been the worst console generation there has been. Because the way this generation has gone, I've already been telling my friends that I wouldn't be getting another console that's not made by Nintendo.
These prices are just one more thing that confirms for me that this is the case.
I'm always going to have a PC, I no longer see a reason to have a Sony or MS console.
No steam ?
Me since the nes and master system; couldn't agree more. It's like Microsoft and Sony aren't even trying. The most progress these days is indie development tbh
I love Nintendo also but the major benefit to having a Sony or Microsoft console is exclusive games.
@@JohnCovington5 what exclusives at this point?
@@JohnCovington5 What exclusive games? The ones that in 6 months will also release in the other platforms? It's no longer economically viable to make a game exclusive to a single platform, all the Final Fantasy games that have come out on PS4 and PS5 clearly show that, people ain't gonna buy a 500 to 700 $ machine just to play the new final fantasy or whatever game, they are gonna wait for the PC release or the release on their respective platform, the only reason console exclusives work on nintendo it's because you can get a switch super cheap specially if you buy used, makes it look more like a toy, than an actual electronic device.
$700 for slightly better looking backgrounds is insane
Not trying to be rude, but isn't this the same idea behind upgrading a graphics card for PC?
No disk drive either.
@@TheEffectOfMass not at all.
@@George-on5hi So I don't really game on console but are disc drives still a big thing? I mean if you're using them for watching blu rays then I suppose so but I mean for gaming. I guess I'm just so used to Steam that the idea of buying games on a disc seems somewhat foreign to me.
@@TheEffectOfMassnot really, because a PC is way more useful that a console. And at the price point Sony is asking for the PRO an equally priced gpu is considerably more powerful.
Sony was doing crack. The lines on the side of the PS5 Pro are the indicators. What a way to completely ruin the 30th anniversary of the console lifeline. More respect was shown towards the 25th anniversary of Dreamcast than this.
“Sony was doing crack” - love this 😂
You don’t do crack in lines 🤡
@@Jason-Scott how do you know? You've done crack before?
@@MrDarkace28 You never watched tv before?
@@HALFSQUASHED I've watched TV before. But that's not what I mean.
Sony is the literal embodiment of;
“You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
700 dollars is a big hell no from me, they’re out of there minds
Get a job 😂
@@Mojaveknight17get a life 🙁
@@Mojaveknight17 GeT a JoB. Says the kid who probably doesn't pay rent or any bills. 🤡
@@Mojaveknight17You've posted the same comment like 10 times what a loser 😂
Well there will be other people that will buy it. It’s not for everyone and I will be buying one. Even tho I have a ps5.
$780 plus tax is CRAZY
Broke
*vertical stand not included
@@michaelmyersplays4992shill
*no disk drive also
@@michaelmyersplays4992the price is insane no matter how much money you have.
No disc drive, no back compatibility, no stand - NO THANK YOU
It cant play ps4 games?
PS5 PRO does play ps4 games, right?
It can play PS4 and enhance some titles, but 110945.96 Yen for the Disc version is absolutely NO. I just bought a M2 Super Mac computer! It’s going to have to wait or Sony cuts the crap and lowers the price
Don't lie
i just built a buddy a 5600x 6700xt pc for 700, i couldn’t IMAGINE buying a console for that💀💀
Not to mention, A PC DOES MORE THAN JUST GAMING! But kudos, that's a solid build for the price. Also if you factor in the disc drive, stand, and PS plus you might be able to make it that much better to boot ;)
Congratulations to Nintendo for selling 200 million Switch 2's.
If Nintendo can provide the inventory, Sony and Microsoft is handing it to them on a freaking platter.
4 years later I'm pretty happy I never wasted money on a PS5. Maybe I'm just not as into games as I was but there's really not a thing I want to play on PS5 that I can't play on PC.
It’s a waste of money, the pro it’s a double waste of money, there are no games to play aside gta6 when will be out
I have the base model and it just collects dust. I have both gow games and both Spider-Man games. I beat gow which was cool but then I started playing Spider-Man and it felt like I was playing the same game with a different skin. So I haven’t played the 2nd part to neither game yet.
I was especially disappointed with Spider-Man, the most fun I had was web swinging. In my opinion the older marvel games were much more fun. The games are visually appealing tho.
@@ElijahThomas-o4rWen slinging is amazing. Sadly, Everything else is repetitive and boring. I never finished the remake and never played my copy of Miles Morales
@@arnoldmorales9189deadass! and me as an adult recognizes that these games feel more like doing task or chores than they do actual games. Where tf is the fun?? The new generation of gaming is ass!
This is what happens when there is no competition. PS3 era all over again
Bro, when PS3 was released, it was cheaper than the cheapest Blue-Ray player on the market.
So basically you were getting console option for free and still cheaper than the cheapest Blue Ray player.
there was competition. but you kept trashign them for not being a sony exclusive.
@@gondorianslayer4250because Xbox wasn't trying? System is whack, and their exclusives come to PS eventually. And Nintendo is not going against Sony. They have no reason to.
There is competition..this is what happens when you have brain dead fanboys who never hold them accountable for any of their bs. Xbox fans hold MS accountable all the time.
@@tomaszstarzZzstill sold like shit
They said £700 in the UK. That's $914
That is absolutely disgusting.
In Europe we went up over 100%
400€ for digital edition
Now 800€ for ps5 pro and that without a stand.
Sad to see disc drive becoming Optional.
The disk drive has been optional since the base PS5 revision, actually it uses the exact same disk drive.
Might as well build a PC if these consoles are going up in price and never getting a price cut.
Let’s not lose the plot, a 4070 super is $600 and all you’re still missing the other 70% of the PC
R7 5800X3D and an RX 7700XT would perform the same when using an upscaler like the pro does, would cost a tad more but that tad is worth it over this when you get so many perks like GOG games and emulation and a web browser etc.
These GPU prices keep going up aswell tho.
But you need 1,500 for a pc
@@yonkocommander5531I built a computer in 2017 that I still use to this day and has same teraflops as ps5.
Congratulations, Sony. You shot yourselves in the foot (Or should I say "Feet") yet again.
I was laughing so hard IRL just how ridiculous this was. The price and it having a separate disc drive + stand you have to buy? absolute insanity. One of the worst things Sony decided since the PS3 pricing
100% agree. The pricing is really bad. I don't see many people buying this. if it was 649 with the Disc Drive included, I might have considered it. But 699 with no Disc Drive and Vertical stand is a rip off. And apparently that's the price with no Tax included.
Here in Europe its 800 euro, and 950 with the vertical stand and Disc Drive included.
So the PS3 in comparison doesn't seem so bad. Because it could Play PS1, PS2 and PS3 games in a single box.
This is worse than the PS3 in a situational degree, but at least the base PS5 already exists. My fear is Sony are going to gradually take away the base PS5.
@@DeadPhoenix86DPIf you have the base PS5, it’s already enough. I would say it’s better than the PS5 Pro if you have the disc version of the OG PS5 just not in 4k 60fps or with raytracing 60
Not really. They've correctly identified their consumer base as being idiots/Apple like so they'll accept and defend anything Sony does and puts out there. Smart move by Sony and not shocking to anyone that's been paying attention to Sony.
It will still sell out and pre-orders will be sold out.
£699.99 is $915. Sony is screwing everyone hard outside the US and even $700 is too much.
Fuck Sony, I am done with them. Between not supporting the PSVR2, Barely bringing out any new games, charging fortunes for the Pro, raising prices of the PS5 and basically just treating everyone outside the USA like shit.
I am selling my PS5 and just upgrading my PC instead. Not giving them any more of my money.
Get a job broke dood
Prices in £ and € are final prices. Prices in $$$ are before tax.
they don't even have games to play.....only remastered of remastered.....and exclusive games port to PC.....right Fuck Sony
Prepare to be out even more money! PC gaming is not cheap!
@@morgan-sk-4499 that's insane
Mark Cerny looking like Dana Carvey and sounding like Ryan Reynolds 😂
Yes!
“I’m going to be a master of disguise!” 🥸
He looks like if Garth and Trey from phish had a baby.
Sounding almost like Tony Hawk!
He's always been that way lol
Still appreciate him for his Sonic 2 work
This current generation has been destroyed by executives thinking that making more and more powerful systems is how they’re going to win fans over.
Sony drunk with power. Almost 800 after tax with no disc drive in the package for minimal visual upgrades? Not to mention no games really even pushing the original hardware......this is MADNESS
I hope this isn't something that they're secretly banking on, like that they have suffered several financial blows on several fronts that they've kept from the public. Surely the games sales don't lie!
what power theyre speedrunning bankruptcy
It's an enthusiast product. You're acting like the PS5 pro is like water and electricity
@@thelarry383 an enthusiast product no one is enthusiastic about from the company that made the gaming console without games . very on brand
@@One-ct3xe I hate to break it to you but Sony is fine financially, I know its hard to grasp but they don't just do vidja gaemz, they didn't spend 200 million on Concord, Concord was finished in 2022, Fire Walk was looking for a studio to publish when Sony acquired them no matter how many time imbeciles try to pretend Sony footed the bill.
Not everything needs to be priced for welfare recipients, its OK to have a premium item for people who want one and can afford one. They're looking to sell it to people whom want one not something to sell to everyone....ANYONE who replaces their 1,500 phone every 6 months can STFU and sit down
*110945.96 Yen for the Disc version is absolutely NO. I just bought a M2 Super Mac computer! It’s going to have to wait or Sony cuts the crap and lowers the price!*
Disc drive doesn’t matter lol it’s the about the power and games which this has none
Let’s be honest…. No one really cares about a disc drive in 2024
People who bought PS5 game physical copy cares. 😂@@Thanosdidtherighthing
@@Thanosdidtherighthing On the contrary, it's one of the main selling points for me. No disc drive = no sale. As soon as consoles go full digital, I'm moving to PC gaming.
Wasnt the M2 a prototype console from Panasonic?
Nintendo and Xbox need to get their shit together! $700 for a console with no stand or disc drive is fucking insane!
I’d say Nintendo has their shit together 🤷
Right?! This is 2006 ps3 all over again
Nintendo seems to be doing just fine. I think if Microsoft has a decent showing at Tokyo Game Show they might be able to get some small foothold in Japan, as the PS5 jumped nearly $100 in price over there and I doubt that’s going over well with average consumers.
The PS5 Pro closely hits the 1000 euro mark in Europe. 800 euros for the base digital only version, 120 euros for the disc drive, 30 euros for the stand. 950 euros total if you want a "regular" console. Insane. If that is the future, I'm out.
Sony thinks their consumer base is idiotic. I hope they are wrong and this product fails.
Something a poor person would say
And they will. Console bros aren't the brightest. It's why they're console bros and not fans or PC gamers.
@@chasejackson7248 It's crazy how all of these people can't save up 700-800 USD... And then again, It's still a long way until the PS6 so it isn't even a yearly purchase like Apple products
@@chasejackson7248 He's not poor, he's just not like the rest of the idiots who agree with corporate greed. Just because I can afford it doesn't mean I'm settling for less.️🤷🏻♂️
If Apple and Nvidia have taught us anything, there are a lot of idiots out there
The ps5 doesnt even have that many "must play" games, and most of them are on PC also.
You can build a PC for slightly more money that will outperform this, play most of its games within 6 months of release, and be able to play all the current PC games also.
This thing is just a waste of money.
Don't forget that PC will also play Xbox games and can usually be upgraded for a few years
Slightly more money...the GPU on the PS5 pro is on par with a 3080 .so that's like a 4070 ..7800xt .to build a gaming PC with that power would cost close to 2k
OK.....Cool story.....You do you
Yes obviously PC is better but you would need to spend 2k or more for a good mid range PC ..that's what it costs..then 3 to 4k for high end.
Exactly. ☮️
I don't want a new ps5 or a ps6. I want actual games. This generation is a dry desert
100 percent correct
Gamers need to ask these developers to lower the budgets of their games.
Agreed!
so right
@@headshotmaster138for real. Plus if games are taking this long to make .. the PS6 Is going to have even LESS games.
I live in Japan and for that 120 thousand yen I upgrade my 3080 for a 4080 and get a lot better performance than what Sony is offering.
700 bucks and I can't even play Concord in 120 fps? They really lost their minds.
still have ZERO reason to purchase a new PS5 Pro... especially when titles are still being optimized and released for PS4...
What does this have to do with PS4? Just because those players get the same game to play, that you have on PS5 Pro? I wish all games would come out for last gen as well. Besides games that cannot run well. I hate exclusivity.
Yeah but the Ps4 isn't going to last forever. You should focus on upgrading your TV for your base PS5. This is for people who have 4k tvs capable of 120 frames a second, with VRR. It is going to be better console.
unless you are playing free to play games or japanese games i dont think anyone is optimizing for the ps4 anymore
Sony has gone completely insane.
800€? 120.000¥?!
Without stand or disc drive no less.
These prices are an insult to every gamer outside the US.
4 years ago those prices would have been 700€ and 70.000¥.
But this simply isn’t worth it.
By this time in the generation the base ps5 should’ve gone down to 400$ though and the pro should’ve been sold at 600$.
This is what happens when Xbox stops being a competitor. Sony thinks they’re the next Apple and Nvidia.
It doesn't matter. Scalpers will buy them all, shareholders will see number go up, and Sony is happy. This isn't a product with it's own ecosystem so it's not going to hurt player population economy, just like The Portal. It's what any greedy company on top would do.
Just get a job
@@Mojaveknight17
omg, gtfo
It’s got nothing to do with having a job or not.
This simply highway robbery.
I wouldn’t buy this shit if I was a millionaire, period.
@@lambasted6886
I’m not so sure about this.
The discourse around this will be highly critical in the media, not only from random twitter, reddit and YT comments.
I don’t see scalpers buying this.
I also don’t see many users buying this.
If Sony can get a 10% share of their overall ps5 units sold be PS5Pro I’d be surprised.
@@Mojaveknight17geez you replied with the same comment at least 5 times already. do you have a job?
>Inflation is like 30% since 2014
>Everything tech related gets 100% more expensive
I hate this world.
You can thank the scalpers for that, as far as NVIDIA is concerned. The cut out the middle man and decided to scalp price their GPU's themselves. What a bunch of good guys, that care about gamers
Sony is freaking insane. They can’t get prices down on the PS5 and even have to drive them up after 4 years, and you still have a large base sticking with PS4. So their idea was to release a $700 disc-less Pro system?!
Yep and many of us who can afford one will purchase one because we have actual jobs....Not everything needs to be priced for welfare recipients and kiddie part time cashiers. Its OK to have a premium console just for people who can afford it and want it.
Just like the Series X when 75% of MS hardware sales are the Series S
@@lutherheggs451 Godspeed in your purchase sir
I can easily afford this but I'm not as retarded as you to fall for it
@@lutherheggs451a gaming console that has been selling extremely well and releasing an updated version doesn't need to be 700 dollars and without a disc drive or stand. I would actually understand $700 with a disc drive, but this ain't it. I'll think about purchasing one around the release date of GTA 6 and that's if there is a discount at some point.
This showcase was just a question of "why". Why would we want this thing. Why is it priced so high. Why would we bother buying it. Why would you showcase a new console skew without pairing it with a new title. Why are there no new titles for us to even want a new skew for. Why would it not include a disc drive for such an outrageous price or even a vertical stand. Why is something (vertical stand) you can make with a 3D printer considered a premium extra to a premium edition of a console. Why is that not part of the product.
Because you're broke
@@Mojaveknight17black person
@@Mojaveknight17 And uninterested because they gave consumers no motivation to acquire the damn thing. Hell, they didn't even provide motivation to acquire the BASE ps5 outside of FoMo.
I absolutely cannot wait for RTG‘s video on this
He already posted it.
You’re late to that party lol
It’s outn
Nice, weird it wasn’t on my sub feed. Had to go to his page.
@@bdashrye182 I get that problem too, UA-cam automatically puts the notification to personalized instead of all for some reason. It’s been like that for years. It gets annoying.
*BEHOLD THE DIGITAL ONLY FUTURE! This is how it starts. If this console is a success, the PS6 will not even support a disk drive for physical disks*
"Additional background details at 60fps"... For 700 without a stand and disc drive. PayStation....😂
And that is only in USofA. We are F..ed in EU
@@painfuldiscourse5231
Tell me about it. I’m in Japan.. :/
Gotta pay for that Concord abortion somehow.
Get a job 🎉
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I'm going to preface this with the fact that I've only ever owned Nintendo consoles and an Xbox One S:
I think I'd be happy with 1080p 60FPS for the rest of my life, so long as the games ran well. The pursuit of graphical fidelity at this nothing but an excuse to overinflate prices and file sizes.
Video game systems are becoming to expensive for the average person. Shit is crazy.
No physical drive included really pisses me off...im not buying the drive separately so sony can F off
That was appalling, £700 WITHOUT a disc drive?! I'm NOT buying that in a million years!! A slight power increase is not worth the extra £250
It also has double the internal storage (2 TB)
@@snakeplissken5969still not worth it. A decent 4.0 NVME 2TB drive costs £80. Also Sony should’ve stuck with a 1tb version, most ps5 users probably have a 2TB nvme installed which they could transfer over to the Pro (at least those considering to upgrade to pro).
@@snakeplissken5969you can get a 2tb ssd for 150 alone with a ps5 with a disc drive
@@snakeplissken5969 i'm not supporting it, i'd rather stick with my regular PS5 model
40% is slight LOL
This is ridiculously, i am a gamer that can buy a ps5 pro, but this is CRAZY for a little bit more. In Euro is the price 860 Dollar! No disc and stand. BUY a PC or build one instead!
Wrong you must have 1,500 for a pc😊
@@Mojaveknight17wrong, you don’t need 1,500 for a pc
show me a 860$ pc that can do 4k 60fps. i will wait
@@haocongkevinzhu1451 I would still be willing to spend a little more on a pc as it's more multi purpose than this and a much larger pool of games. There really haven't been enough ps5 exclusive games that would make me able to justify that big a price tag even tho I could afford it.
@@Mojaveknight17still better way to spend money. Then you have ps5 and pc and can play pretty much all games. Other then upgrading ps5 to ps5 pro
Sony has lost the plot of Console gaming, it's suppose to be simple and affordable. They're giving everyone of their Customers a reason to go PC gaming instead. Eventually, Microsoft a Nintendo will follow.
From what I’ve seen, it’s $899.99 here in Canada. Like get f**ked. Our dollars shit but my god there’s no way it’s worth that.
I actively waited for this for 2 years and now I won't buy it. How did this happen?
At least you probably can find normal ps5 cheaper haha sorry comrade 😅
Same I want to replace my buggy launch ps5 and didn’t want to pay $500 for slim that’s same performance
Not sure what I’m going do now
Dude over 700 $ for a freaking game console?? They’re off their nut!
Sony has reached peak greed again. Like they did with the launch of the PS3.
Literally no one is forced to buy it. Greed is when the insurance company puts premiums up and reduces coverage.
Touch grass
Its a pro console. You can get a base ps5 if you can’t afford it
The shills are not happy with this post
@@FlyMysticalDJ Holy crap they sure aren't! I'm not going to drop 700 on a "pro" console when I can spend 100 more for a PC.
Sony cannot stop embarrassing themselves this generation. I don’t know how they announced this expecting it to go over well.
@@Mojaveknight17 get a life kid. Stop damage controlling and go touch grass
How is 700 dollars overpriced I don't hear people complaining about spending over a thousand to get a gaming pc.
This is PS3 all over again.
@@vinyminotaur2694 I think he meant that as a joke referring to the PS3 announcement.
I think that was a joke, don't get bent outta shape over nothing@@vinyminotaur2694
I don't have a ps5 yet and am not paying $700 for one.
£700, with no disc drive is hilarious! 😅
Dana Carvey really looked in our eyes and said : And this is why game takes 8 years to make and why the videogame landscape cost so much right now. i am now awaiting your applause.
Dude I thought the same thing with Dana Carvey 😂
He's out of gas and you don't have a jacket
He wasn't turtl-y enough for the turtle club ....
What a dick. if that's the case then maybe make the generation last longer instead of shoveling the next console down our throat at $600 after 7 years.
Dead on arrival at that price with no disk drive. Sony are going to learn the hard way, just like they did with Concord.
Black @@Mojaveknight17
@Mojaveknight17 I have a job. I'll stick with my gaming pc thanks, where I can play PlayStation games anyway
@@Mojaveknight17 1000 euro ONE GAME machine lmao
Don't forget Sony takes 30% of games and charges you monthly in order to play online.
The PS4 pro was just over twice as good as the PS4 for only 100 dollars more. Even if you account for inflation for 300 dollars more, the PS5 pro should be twice as good as the PS5. This is a scam.
Big L for Sony
big but common
I can build a ps5 pro for $700 in *used* parts. Not new, but itll last longer than the ps5 pro is supported
Let me put it to you this way.If my eyes can't see it my wallet won't pay for it
This is what happens with no competition. The customer loses. Underwhelming and overpriced products. No disc drive and not even a stand is absolutely insane.
What do you mean the customer loses? If you got a regular PS5 you don't have to buy the pro model nobody is forcing you
@@HalcyonEX
That’s not the point.
Sony knows that Xbox is done and now they’re getting cocky. Increasing prices on PS Plus, their controllers, their base ps5s.
Had Xbox been a real rival with lots of good exclusives that don’t go to ps5 and had a similar pro product we wouldn’t have seen this.
Xbox is not competing 😢
@@Mojaveknight17spam
@@Lock2002ful idk man everything in America these days is costing more and more money including groceries and bills it makes sense the pro being this expensive in this economy I didn't think Xbox has anything to do with it
This makes me feel like Sony is gonna try to release a PS6 and PS6 Pro side by side and have this same pricing structure.
I honestly thought this thing was going to be at most $599 and that was pushing it. Yikes.
Did a little research. Playstation 1 price 299$ in 1994. Convert that to today's dollars that is 634.60$. Inflation sucks.
Yeah, but then you had gasoline at around $0.60 cents a gallon, which is only like $1.27 'adjusted for inflation', but we're paying over $3 instead...
@@cire420siuolI wish I could get gas for 60 cents a gallon back in 94.
Ps4 pro was $399 just 7 years ago.
Counter point. Technology historically gets cheaper over time, not saying the PS1 is cheaper in 2024, it should be that a ps5 in 2024 shouldn't cost that original $300.
Look at home TV's. Those used to cost insane prices for the time and now you can buy a modern tv for $50. (Of course packed with bloat that subsidize the price, I'm not trying to skew the info)
@@lordrahl7033 Yep, should've checked the statistics closer, as apparently that 60 cents number was wholesale prices from the refinery... But the national average was still only $1.11 in 1994, which would only be $2.36/gallon adjusted for inflation, but the national average right now is $3.28... So the point still stands... You can't just say something makes sense because of inflation... Inflation doesn't scale the same for everything, or everywhere (even inside of the same country)... A better comparison would be to take the average cost of living vs the average salaries in 1994 and comparing to 2024 cost of living/salary... I don't feel like looking all of that up and doing the math, but maybe someone else will...
Why would anyone but the very small audience of tech lovers pay that much to play their 4 exclusive games at a higher frame rate? I’m not even criticizing the price point necessarily. Just the fact they thought this thing would sell at all when they’ve made so few exclusive games for the base ps5 to begin with is actually asinine
Returnal
Last of us 1
Last of us 2
Demon's souls remake
Horizon West
God of war Ragnarok
Ratchet and ckank
Helldivers 2
FFREBIRTH
RISE OF ROUNIN
STELLAR BLADE
BLACK MYTH WUKONG!
Astro Bot
Grand Blue FantasyReturnal
Last of us 1
Last of us 2
Demon's souls remake
Horizon West
God of war Ragnarok
Ratchet and ckank
Helldivers 2
Ff7 Remake
FF7 remake part 2
FF7 REBIRTH
RISE OF ROUNIN
STELLAR BLADE
BLACK MYTH WUKONG!
Astro Bot
Grand Blue Fantasy
Most of those already run at 60 fps with pretty good image quality. Not all, but most.
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Congrats! I was wrong, you have 6 exclusives! 👏👏
In the UK, it works out at $914.
$959.99 in Canada………… yikes.
1000+ with taxes. And I thought my launch ps5 was expensive
$960 for no games. But at least you got Concord.
That's not gonna sell at all, I don't know a single Canadian who looks at that price and says a $1000 console is worth it.
Costs an arm and a leg, while also having no games..... WELCOME BACK PS3!
At least the PS3 played blurays, PS1, and PS2 games.
Well thats not true... It has astro bot :)
I agree with the awful price for the pro, but I will always say that the PS5 does have games. All it takes is a Google search.
Like they said “just get a second job” might need three jobs now
Worst than ps3 price.
Honestly wasn't expecting a 3DO again... But here it is!
Everyone so hungry for Xbox to fail at every hurdle, and THIS is what the future would be if it was just Sony left. Sony free to take the p"ss out of consumers..
The thing is xbox failed themselves lol. They have plenty of studios to make some banger first party games but they screw up every single time.
Sony PlayStation has ALWAYS been anti consumer. People have just let them get away with it for so long.
They can only take the piss out of it's consumers if the consumers let them (which I'm afraid a lot still will I'd imagine!)
“In this economy!?”
Like everything else ? Lol nothing new ninja
@@michaelmyersplays4992typical clueless attention seeking kid
In any economy you have people that will buy this just because you cant.
Yeah it’s pretty much as I expected. Only thing that will make this sell like hotcakes is if PS5 Pro runs GTA6 at 60fps. Sony I’m sure is outside Rockstar begging to utilize the Pro.
No effing thanks!
Making it worse but more expensive. How much of an unnecessary failure is this generation going to be!?
PS3 was like $600 dollars, That’s why everyone was hyped about PS4 price. The base PS5 is $500. I mean cmon, realistically what were people expecting the Pro to cost?