It’s almost criminal you haven’t gotten more popular on UA-cam. Your strategies are all over the internet after you release them, you’re appreciated by the craps community!
Thanks you so much for all that you do. It's a lot of work making these videos. I really do appreciate you sharing your thoughts via these time-consuming videos for us. I never really had much of a strategy but iron Cross and my gut, but watching you has really made me enjoy this game, and it has taken it to a totally different level. Thank you again, and I look forward to watching every single video you put out from start to finish 🖖
thanks waylon. another excellent way to play. i been practicing "lay it to the moon with the 6&8" also very good. I played it 3 times allready and won every time. 300 dollars a day
Just got back from Vegas. Used this strategy and doubled my money. When it started to lose I switch to the Arnold from the the pass and doubled it again. Awesome, if you like to gamble you can gamble for hours with this 2 strategies.
Hey Waylon, your 'Bama players doing great for the Texans, thanks! Like working this version of the Arnold, coming around to the double Don't with Come-out cover. Arnold so reliable on cold & choppy tables there little or no need to ladder. The one thing I've brought over from my version of this DC/Come combo is to Parlay Come bet winners. The Parlays can help cash in on repeat shooters & pump up the 7. Cheers! Robert H.
Love your strategies. Of course, none are fool proof. Heading to Vegas tmrw with a buddy for a concert. We've been practicing the "Arnold". Overall 80% win percentage. One adjustment I've made is taking half odds when the DC is on the 4 or 10. Seems like a good bet, odds in favor.
As well as this does at a cold or choppy table this system is perfect for bubble craps. If a standard table goes cold you'll wind up standing there alone with the dice in your hand as everyone else is gone. LOL Here in Vegas I have many to choose from.
Man Waylon you have a great mind for creating strategies. You should write a book brother. I would buy it. I am currently writing a book on dice setting. I would love to dedicate a section of my book to you. Would love to have some of your strategies to go with my dice sets. Would be a deadly combination!!!
Well I actually play my strats according to my dice sets! I just put out my strategies based on random rollers! So if they win on random a good shooter should never lose with them
Man I’m not sure if I like the Arnold DC more than the regular! Can you show an example of this for people with small bank rolls? Maybe for a $10-$15 table?
I like the Arnold from the don't. The win on the line helps when you have 4 or 5 come bets out. Also, assuming 10x odds table you can use the odds on your don't to cover your come bets is a cool feature.
I will say that I love this, and it has opened my eyes to a new way to look at craps.... HEDGE! With that, I have practiced this a lot on a simulator, and I have a question.... Why do we 'need' the DC bet? I am sure I am missing something, but as I run through the exposure on each roll and try to minimize it, here is what I am thinking.... Come out Roll would consist of: - $100 on the Don't Pass - $200 Lay Bet on the 4 (love this hedge to cover you for a PSO) - $25 Hard 4 (to hedge against hitting a 4, only lose $25 on Hard 4) - $5 Yo (to hedge against hitting an 11 and losing your DP) Then, once the point is established, we decide how much we 'like it' and place odds on the DP accordingly, while also doing the continuous Come bet to cover the numbers. Let me know your thoughts...... (saucy!)
Waylon I LOVE THIS!!! I been falling you for years and this one here is a game changer. I have one question, what do you do when you lose the $200 lay (4/10) when protecting the DC?
Tell the hater , eyes on your own paper ! Great strategy . First time at the Beau Rivage tonight I’m getting slammed. Gonna try this out in the morning to get back
I keep coming back to this because I like it. How would you rate the original Arnold, if you hedge the DC come out every time? Thanks for all your hard work and sharing your knowledge with us.
The only tweek that I would try would be going straight into the Come bets right after the DP. I rather have 1 opportunity to lose my DP versus possibly losing a DP and a DC.
Well I already have that strategy and it does pretty good! I just don't like losing a big dp bet with all the comeout 7&11s! This one avoids that! The DC is hands down the better bet
Having the double don’t is a great hedge especially if you use the dont for dont odds bet to get your second number. This is slightly more risky but the house edge is 0 so in the long run you would come out better. If you wanted to lay for 100 on a 3,4,5x table you could not do this fully on a 4/10 but they would just take a small vig. For the extra $25 Don’t odds on the 4/10 would be $200 paying 99 for a $1 vig vs a $5 vig if you laid on a separate number. Don’t odds on the 5/9 would be $150 for a $100 pay. Dont on the 6/8 would be $120 for a $100 pay.
Odds on the don't is the worst bet in the casino! They don't pay even close to even money! Flat bets beat it all to pieces! There's no comparison in testing the 2! Flat bets win almost twice as much
Ok so I’m new at this kind of strategy and I’m a little lost on when/why to lay the 4/10 or when/why to place odds on the Don’t Pass. Also, does this ladder the same way the normal Arnold does (as in we get wacked on the DC point, so we go up a unit on the next go round)? If that happens are we also increasing the lay/odds bets? Want to make sure I’m navigating this strategy right when the goings get tough 😅
@@waylonswaycraps Thanks Brother. I will post a comment when we get back. I want to thank you for taking the time and effort to make your videos and share your knowledge with us. I really appreciate you.
I really like this also. I am just a chicken on the coming out, and so, whenever I have a lay 4 on the coming out, I like to put up a hard 4 bet working to hedge it. This way, I am not upset and I always love hardways action to win me money, especially when I have a don't bet that loses just to win me money on that hard 4.
You can hedge a hedge if you like ! At the end of the day it loses a pile of money ! But it could save you in the short term a few times ! So it's up to you brother
@@waylonswaycraps true, and I know hardways are generally a bad bet, but I just can’t seem to stay away from it cause everytime I don’t play hardways it seems they always hit.
@@waylonswaycraps yes sir absolutely… I moved to Vegas in just before Christmas and I went to the new Durango Casino a fee weeks ago. I had a really hot roll I was shooting over 40 to 45 minutes to guess. I would say I rolled the dice at least 35 times before 7 out finally happened.
Happy day Happy day for yet another awesome video from The Great One, i.e., Waylon! Btw, Happy day happy day is another one of my fav "Walonisms"! haha! Question on "The Darnold" haha, since you got up in profit so quickly right out of the gate on this video, can I assume your laddering system is a part of the DP Arnold? or does the hedge Lay bet take the place of laddering?
WOW....just WOW. Tested this for the last 3 hours. As long as you're willing to keep pressing the DC when you're in the red....I don't see how this loses. Thanks WC
A particularly hot table will beat this up pretty good. If you hit several DC points or when you have the big hedge bets out it is pretty hard to recover if you are progressing. A two hundred dollar lay 4 hit followed by a $200 dont odds with a $100 dont 4 is $500. It is scary to me laying big money on the 4/10 for this reason. A bad run should not happen very often but when it does, the risk is double to the payout. This is a relatively safe way to play though, which is also easy on the dealers.
@@waylonswaycraps The scenario I was describing is lv 1. After you get $25 don’t pass, you would lay $200 on the 4. If this hedge gets hit one could lay $200 odds on the 100 dont 4, to try to recover the Lay 4 that was lost. If this is hit it would total $500 loss. ($200 lay + 100 DC+ 200DC odds). This would be against probability but could happen. It would just take two 4’s in a row. I just get freaked out laying money for long periods of time on the 4/10.
@@waylonswaycrapsMoving the lay to the 10 would lessen the total loss but increase the probability of being hit. Both are actually good ways to play, just freaks me out a little.
Thanks Waylon, cool twist to the Arnold, will run this through wincraps a bit - Question: I presume you run your practice table at 10x odds or more? 3:55-4:10 when your $50 lay 4 gets knocked off and becomes the point, you lay $200 free odds on your DP to hedge your DC. 3x-4x-5x table you'd only be able to lay 150 in odds on the DP. The hedge still works, just a wash rather than a win hehe.
You are right If you wanted to lay for 100 on a 3,4,5x table you could not do this fully on a 4/10 but they would just take a small vig. For the extra $25. Most casino’s would allow you to take max odds for the don’t bet then take everything else as a normal lay bet up to the max bet. Don’t odds on the 4/10 would be $200 paying 99 for a $1 vig vs a $5 vig if you laid on a separate number.
If you are re going to run it through win craps you could do it like this. Use the dont for dont odds bet to get your second number. This is slightly more risky but the house edge is 0 so in the long run you would come out better. Having the double don’t is a great hedge especially if you use the dont for dont odds bet to get your second number. This is slightly more risky but the house edge is 0 so in the long run you would come out better. If you wanted to lay for 100 on a 3,4,5x table you could not do this fully on a 4/10 but they would just take a small vig. For the extra $25 Don’t odds on the 4/10 would be $200 paying 99 for a $1 vig vs a $5 vig if you laid on a separate number. Don’t odds on the 5/9 would be $150 for a $100 pay. Dont on the 6/8 would be $120 for a $100 pay. Don’t odds on the 4/10 would be $200 paying 99 for a $1 vig vs a $5 vig if you laid on a separate number. Don’t odds on the 5/9 would be $150 for a $100 pay. Dont on the 6/8 would be $120 for a $100 pay.
Waylon, you are the man! I like this much better as a DP strategy! I learned from you about not playing the Passline. Unless there’s a hot roller but how are you going to know that before you bet? After 10 rolls? 20? I like getting paid when the 7 comes out instead of getting wiped off the Table. And I always hedge the Comeout Roll so if a 7 comes out I even out instead of losing. This I have to try out! Thanks again! Why do you call it the Arnold? Just curious. It should be called the Waylon! Shouldn’t it? If you came up with it! The best strategy should be named after you.
I named it after Arnold Schwarzenegger Aguirre He was one of my favorites back in the day! Strong, never gave up & awesome comeback power! But you can name it after me if you like I could care less lol
Waylon, what would you do if you have a "hot shooter" random or dice influencer that continues to hit place numbers and kills your Don't Pass Line? Would you "change" this strategy? If so, what would you do differently?
Interesting strategy. What about this option...after the DP and DC are set, if we place the other four box numbers for $25 each ( they are covered by the DC ) and as each of these box numbers are hit, the Come bet travels and the respective place bet is paid and taken down? And then play continues as you have it shown.
Hey Waylon!!! Love all the videos been watching you a very long time. My wife and I play tons of craps. I’m thinking of playing this strategy while she plays $110 on inside or 220. She tries for 2 hits and then regress. What strategies should we use to get comps and kind of wash at the tables? Thinking she plays $100 pass I play $100 don’t what’s your opinion
You play 50$ pass with 12$ 6&8,let her play 100$ dp with 24$ 6&8! At the end of the day the pass / dp should win a little money so should the 6&8s! Should be great for comps also
Mr. Waylon, if you truly want to learn this game and how to beat it I can promise you a documented journey far more rewarding in doing than chasing Mr. Arnold and company. I wish you the best either way.
Appreciate it ! Don't let strategy names fool yah ! I have far better strats than the Arnold ! However it's great for a cold or choppy table! I have hundreds of strategies! In the end it's up to the player to have enough sense to play which strategy!
Arnold from the don't (Darnold) is great for randys so I'm gonna do it on them and I can shoot pretty well so do the place bets and regress build em back up and run it
@@waylonswaycraps got hammered by come out 7’s and 11’s for awhile and went down about $900. (Didn’t hedge the DP come out. The hedge on the DC worked well however.)Crawled back and won a little. It recovers well. Won $425 this morning in less than an hour!
@@waylonswaycraps I switched to the pass line for awhile after I got down and had a guy next to me throw 6 consecutive come out 7’s. I won a lot this morning on the DP, so I am not sure right now. From what I have experienced, if there is a shooter hitting points the Passline is better. Choppy tables are better for the DP. I’ll keep experimenting. Really have to kind of get to know the shooters. I’m pretty good at comeout 7’s so I am going to experiment with switching to the DP if I hit a comeout 7 or 11. Lots of possibilities with this system. Thanks for introducing it!!
He lays to cover the DC. 7 on DC loses, but lay pays half (push). Chooses 4 since it has only 3 ways to roll (can use the 10 as well). If 4 or 10 hits you lose the lay (ouch). Odds are in your favor in the long run. Martingale on next one to make up for loss. Believe there is 3 or 4 levels of doubling each time. Always a way to lose just gotta minimize as much as you can and hope dice roll the right way.
Don't make sense to me! 10 ways to roll a 6&8 vs 6 ways to roll a 7! And that's the odds on every roll of the dice! So why you waiting 8 rolls to make a bet? Idda made a fortune with his rolls
I must have the worst luck with this game. I hit my own dc multiple times and then I switched strategies to the money tree king 6&8 where I proceeded to constantly lose on the 10&4 and at one point I didn’t roll a 6 or 8 for like 40 rolls but I tore the hell out of 9&5 and 10 &4s. Me and the dealers couldn’t believe it. As I was steady losing chip after chip every time I hit the 10 &4. After I was down I was like F it and put my last few hundred bucks on the don’t. I rolled a 10 for the point. And you guessed it right. I rolled the 10 back hard. Smfh😢 how did I turn into a hot shooter and kill myself? Love your videos tho bro you make it look so easy.
I thought the payout for a lay bet on 4 is just half the money? How come your paying yourself even money? Am i wrong? Appreciate all the strategy videos sir!
just won $500 in 15 minutes playing evolution online, followed your strat exactly wayland. many thx! p.s. $25 level, 2.5k bankroll. never went below $2400 to make the $500.
Same question from me -- what triggers a ladder if anything? You started in profit and stayed in profit throughout the video so knowing what you would do if you get into trouble would be helpful, Thanks!!
Of course not. It still has a negative result. You’re just closer to house edge. House edge is still present however and you can play this at any craps table in the world up to table max. And I have.
Although with your rolling you really never went negative would you ladder up if your $100 DC got hit a couple times right off the bat? I also noticed a couple times you didn’t put the $50 on the lay 4 when you were coming out. I figured you were just on a roll and this was an oversight but it was never caught since your rolling was on fire! 😊
You always lay the $200 on the 4 except when the point was a 4, then you laid the $200 as odds on the DP. Would it be better to lay the $200 in that situation on the 10. That way you don’t lose the DP and the odds if the 4 hits again.
...I like the simplicity of this awesome tweak! " I win here🤑, win there🤮, and win here🤗" from the don't pass this time... and the pit boss just jumped off the roof🤕 ! ...Just kidding! ! !... He quit his job😯...Ohhhh Happy Day 🌴🐟🎲🎨
It’s almost criminal you haven’t gotten more popular on UA-cam. Your strategies are all over the internet after you release them, you’re appreciated by the craps community!
Well ty brother I appreciate the support
Thank you for continuing to educate.
Keep em coming!
Yw brother
Long or short, the videos are all good. Thanks for all the videos, have fun and keep them coming.
Thanks brother that means a lot
Just got my table built. I'm going out to put ARNOLD to work! Thanks for the post brother!
Thanks you so much for all that you do. It's a lot of work making these videos. I really do appreciate you sharing your thoughts via these time-consuming videos for us. I never really had much of a strategy but iron Cross and my gut, but watching you has really made me enjoy this game, and it has taken it to a totally different level. Thank you again, and I look forward to watching every single video you put out from start to finish 🖖
Thanks brother! That means a lot to me! Hope I can help in any way
Great one, Waylon. I appreciate your work.
Thanks my friend
Nice ..I agree on that change ..explained well..thanks Waylon ..its nice to see a solid way to play
Ty brother
This is a very interesting strategy, thank you for sharing and explaining it.
No problem brother
I text before watching the end after watching the end had to re-text I ❤ the Donald lol lmfao good one thumbs up🎉
Lol 😂😂
And another great one! Keep em coming brother!
Thanks brother
Really great work here, brother. Clear, fast and in top three systems I’ve ever played.
Thanks brother I appreciate the support
thanks waylon. another excellent way to play. i been practicing "lay it to the moon with the 6&8" also very good. I played it 3 times allready and won every time. 300 dollars a day
Nice job brother
I be adding this in my Bubble Craps play tomorrow night. Looking forward to seeing what happens. Thanks for the video.
Yw brother
Just got back from Vegas. Used this strategy and doubled my money. When it started to lose I switch to the Arnold from the the pass and doubled it again. Awesome, if you like to gamble you can gamble for hours with this 2 strategies.
Nice job brother! You made my day
This is awesome. Going to AC in march will try this
Goodluck brother
GREAT Waylon, I'm a don't shooter, love this strategy
Thanks brother
Best stick man in craps videos i have seen.
Thanks brother
Hey Waylon, your 'Bama players doing great for the Texans, thanks!
Like working this version of the Arnold, coming around to the double Don't with Come-out cover. Arnold so reliable on cold & choppy tables there little or no need to ladder. The one thing I've brought over from my version of this DC/Come combo is to Parlay Come bet winners. The Parlays can help cash in on repeat shooters & pump up the 7. Cheers! Robert H.
Ah yes I like that parlaying the come
Thx for the help Waylon!! We need ya!!
No problem brother
@15:42 what you said is really key, you now have an great chance to recoup the "whack".
Absolutely brother
Thanks! I have been running the Arnold on steroids at the same time as lay the point to the moon. This takes the best of both.
On practice to compare.
Sounds good brother
been waiting for this one!
Lol you knew it was coming
Love your strategies. Of course, none are fool proof. Heading to Vegas tmrw with a buddy for a concert. We've been practicing the "Arnold". Overall 80% win percentage. One adjustment I've made is taking half odds when the DC is on the 4 or 10. Seems like a good bet, odds in favor.
Nice job ! Yeah all strategies will lose on any given day but I've had a ton of luck with this one
I love your strategy's
Thanks brother
As well as this does at a cold or choppy table this system is perfect for bubble craps. If a standard table goes cold you'll wind up standing there alone with the dice in your hand as everyone else is gone. LOL Here in Vegas I have many to choose from.
Lol 😆😆
Man Waylon you have a great mind for creating strategies. You should write a book brother. I would buy it. I am currently writing a book on dice setting. I would love to dedicate a section of my book to you. Would love to have some of your strategies to go with my dice sets. Would be a deadly combination!!!
Well I actually play my strats according to my dice sets! I just put out my strategies based on random rollers! So if they win on random a good shooter should never lose with them
Like it best from the don't...better on choppy or cold table.
Hope you're still taking better care of yourself and feeling better Waylon.
I'm doing good brother thanks for asking
Shaka Saucy!!!...Love it!
Yes sir !
Man I’m not sure if I like the Arnold DC more than the regular! Can you show an example of this for people with small bank rolls? Maybe for a $10-$15 table?
You always amaze me but this system is totally awesome. It’s a little confusing trying to keep track of it though.
Yeah it takes a little practice
Waylon I like the modifications you have made
Thanks brother
I like the Arnold from the don't. The win on the line helps when you have 4 or 5 come bets out. Also, assuming 10x odds table you can use the odds on your don't to cover your come bets is a cool feature.
Absolutely
Great stratagy.
Ty brother
Thanks Bro. I like this one🔥👊
Yw brother
Thanks for what you do Whalon
Yw brother
I will say that I love this, and it has opened my eyes to a new way to look at craps.... HEDGE!
With that, I have practiced this a lot on a simulator, and I have a question.... Why do we 'need' the DC bet?
I am sure I am missing something, but as I run through the exposure on each roll and try to minimize it, here is what I am thinking....
Come out Roll would consist of:
- $100 on the Don't Pass
- $200 Lay Bet on the 4 (love this hedge to cover you for a PSO)
- $25 Hard 4 (to hedge against hitting a 4, only lose $25 on Hard 4)
- $5 Yo (to hedge against hitting an 11 and losing your DP)
Then, once the point is established, we decide how much we 'like it' and place odds on the DP accordingly, while also doing the continuous Come bet to cover the numbers.
Let me know your thoughts...... (saucy!)
Sounds great! I don't hedge a lot but I will if I'm laddered up a little
Waylon I LOVE THIS!!! I been falling you for years and this one here is a game changer. I have one question, what do you do when you lose the $200 lay (4/10) when protecting the DC?
Tell the hater , eyes on your own paper ! Great strategy . First time at the Beau Rivage tonight I’m getting slammed. Gonna try this out in the morning to get back
Hate to hear that brother! Good luck
Im in vegas now watched this video learnung it then off to the tables, will keep you posted
Cool brother! Goodluck
Would like to read your post here on how you did. Thanks
This is a gooder one lol Nice!
Thanks brother
I want your Channel all the time I tried to play it on the bubble crabs and it didn't let me in Tampa Florida at the Hard Rock
Imagine that lol
The Arnold from the Don’t is gold
Glad you like it brother
I keep coming back to this because I like it. How would you rate the original Arnold, if you hedge the DC come out every time? Thanks for all your hard work and sharing your knowledge with us.
I would rate it an A as far as strategies go
The only tweek that I would try would be going straight into the Come bets right after the DP.
I rather have 1 opportunity to lose my DP versus possibly losing a DP and a DC.
Well I already have that strategy and it does pretty good! I just don't like losing a big dp bet with all the comeout 7&11s! This one avoids that! The DC is hands down the better bet
Having the double don’t is a great hedge especially if you use the dont for dont odds bet to get your second number. This is slightly more risky but the house edge is 0 so in the long run you would come out better.
If you wanted to lay for 100 on a 3,4,5x table you could not do this fully on a 4/10 but they would just take a small vig. For the extra $25
Don’t odds on the 4/10 would be $200 paying 99 for a $1 vig vs a $5 vig if you laid on a separate number.
Don’t odds on the 5/9 would be $150 for a $100 pay.
Dont on the 6/8 would be $120 for a $100 pay.
Odds on the don't is the worst bet in the casino! They don't pay even close to even money! Flat bets beat it all to pieces! There's no comparison in testing the 2! Flat bets win almost twice as much
Ok so I’m new at this kind of strategy and I’m a little lost on when/why to lay the 4/10 or when/why to place odds on the Don’t Pass.
Also, does this ladder the same way the normal Arnold does (as in we get wacked on the DC point, so we go up a unit on the next go round)? If that happens are we also increasing the lay/odds bets?
Want to make sure I’m navigating this strategy right when the goings get tough 😅
I like it a whole lot
Glad you like it brother
You need to publish that book. It would become a best seller
I agree
The Black Arnold is awesome!
The Black Arnold? my brother from another mother! 💯
I’ve played a system like this for years. Between this and The All Day, only ever had few losing sessions.
Which “All Day” do you use?
Going to the Beau Rivage in Biloxi 4/25-4/28 with my son and twin brother. I will be playing the Arnold from the don't. Wish us all luck.
Goodluck brother
@@waylonswaycraps Thanks Brother. I will post a comment when we get back. I want to thank you for taking the time and effort to make your videos and share your knowledge with us. I really appreciate you.
@@waylonswaycraps I'm headed to Biloxi Thursday morning. I'll be playing the Arnold from the don't $25/$100. Can you give me any last minute advice?
I really like this also. I am just a chicken on the coming out, and so, whenever I have a lay 4 on the coming out, I like to put up a hard 4 bet working to hedge it. This way, I am not upset and I always love hardways action to win me money, especially when I have a don't bet that loses just to win me money on that hard 4.
You can hedge a hedge if you like ! At the end of the day it loses a pile of money ! But it could save you in the short term a few times ! So it's up to you brother
@@waylonswaycraps true, and I know hardways are generally a bad bet, but I just can’t seem to stay away from it cause everytime I don’t play hardways it seems they always hit.
@@thecalendarninja hardways are rolled 6 ways just like the 7 so they do come but we don't know when or which one or how many are coming lol
@@waylonswaycraps yes sir absolutely… I moved to Vegas in just before Christmas and I went to the new Durango Casino a fee weeks ago. I had a really hot roll I was shooting over 40 to 45 minutes to guess. I would say I rolled the dice at least 35 times before 7 out finally happened.
@@thecalendarninja great roll brother! We all have them rolls like that sometimes! Great day
Happy day Happy day for yet another awesome video from The Great One, i.e., Waylon! Btw, Happy day happy day is another one of my fav "Walonisms"! haha! Question on "The Darnold" haha, since you got up in profit so quickly right out of the gate on this video, can I assume your laddering system is a part of the DP Arnold? or does the hedge Lay bet take the place of laddering?
Laddering is up to you! I probably wouldn't ladder anything being up in profit a good bit
I played this way this weekend...it wins for sure
Nice job brother
what strategy books would you recommend? love all your stuff Waylon
None but my own lol
Great
Thanks Joe
WOW....just WOW. Tested this for the last 3 hours. As long as you're willing to keep pressing the DC when you're in the red....I don't see how this loses. Thanks WC
It's one that can beat the casino with a big bankroll! That's a fact
A particularly hot table will beat this up pretty good. If you hit several DC points or when you have the big hedge bets out it is pretty hard to recover if you are progressing. A two hundred dollar lay 4 hit followed by a $200 dont odds with a $100 dont 4 is $500.
It is scary to me laying big money on the 4/10 for this reason. A bad run should not happen very often but when it does, the risk is double to the payout.
This is a relatively safe way to play though, which is also easy on the dealers.
@@Faux.Player don't lay it if it gets hit? Or move it to the 10? But 100$ don't ? What you doing going up 4 levels ?
@@waylonswaycraps The scenario I was describing is lv 1. After you get $25 don’t pass, you would lay $200 on the 4. If this hedge gets hit one could lay $200 odds on the 100 dont 4, to try to recover the Lay 4 that was lost. If this is hit it would total $500 loss. ($200 lay + 100 DC+ 200DC odds).
This would be against probability but could happen. It would just take two 4’s in a row. I just get freaked out laying money for long periods of time on the 4/10.
@@waylonswaycrapsMoving the lay to the 10 would lessen the total loss but increase the probability of being hit. Both are actually good ways to play, just freaks me out a little.
So at like the 5:30 you lay odds on the 4...can you explain that move? Thanks
Nice Waylon
Thanks brother
Thanks Waylon, cool twist to the Arnold, will run this through wincraps a bit - Question: I presume you run your practice table at 10x odds or more? 3:55-4:10 when your $50 lay 4 gets knocked off and becomes the point, you lay $200 free odds on your DP to hedge your DC. 3x-4x-5x table you'd only be able to lay 150 in odds on the DP. The hedge still works, just a wash rather than a win hehe.
Better than losing at the end of the day! Use your head with the Arnold and it's tough to beat brother
You are right If you wanted to lay for 100 on a 3,4,5x table you could not do this fully on a 4/10 but they would just take a small vig. For the extra $25. Most casino’s would allow you to take max odds for the don’t bet then take everything else as a normal lay bet up to the max bet.
Don’t odds on the 4/10 would be $200 paying 99 for a $1 vig vs a $5 vig if you laid on a separate number.
If you are re going to run it through win craps you could do it like this.
Use the dont for dont odds bet to get your second number. This is slightly more risky but the house edge is 0 so in the long run you would come out better.
Having the double don’t is a great hedge especially if you use the dont for dont odds bet to get your second number. This is slightly more risky but the house edge is 0 so in the long run you would come out better.
If you wanted to lay for 100 on a 3,4,5x table you could not do this fully on a 4/10 but they would just take a small vig. For the extra $25
Don’t odds on the 4/10 would be $200 paying 99 for a $1 vig vs a $5 vig if you laid on a separate number.
Don’t odds on the 5/9 would be $150 for a $100 pay.
Dont on the 6/8 would be $120 for a $100 pay.
Don’t odds on the 4/10 would be $200 paying 99 for a $1 vig vs a $5 vig if you laid on a separate number.
Don’t odds on the 5/9 would be $150 for a $100 pay.
Dont on the 6/8 would be $120 for a $100 pay.
I have tested this vs. the Arnold from the Pass line. This won more every time.
It does especially when you hedge it!
Waylon, you are the man! I like this much better as a DP strategy! I learned from you about not playing the Passline. Unless there’s a hot roller but how are you going to know that before you bet? After 10 rolls? 20?
I like getting paid when the 7 comes out instead of getting wiped off the Table.
And I always hedge the Comeout Roll so if a 7 comes out I even out instead of losing.
This I have to try out! Thanks again!
Why do you call it the Arnold? Just curious.
It should be called the Waylon! Shouldn’t it? If you came up with it! The best strategy should be named after you.
I named it after Arnold Schwarzenegger Aguirre He was one of my favorites back in the day! Strong, never gave up & awesome comeback power! But you can name it after me if you like I could care less lol
i need a spread sheet to play this on bubble craps, because i would like dumb founeded trying to get a dealer to up and down every roll. LOL
Yeah play it on bubble craps if you're scared of the dealer having to do his job lol
I like the "Darnold"
Yeah, that's what the casinos call it... The DARNold! 🤣
Waylon, what would you do if you have a "hot shooter" random or dice influencer that continues to hit place numbers and kills your Don't Pass Line? Would you "change" this strategy? If so, what would you do differently?
Simple id swap to the passline
Interesting strategy. What about this option...after the DP and DC are set, if we place the other four box numbers for $25 each ( they are covered by the DC ) and as each of these box numbers are hit, the Come bet travels and the respective place bet is paid and taken down? And then play continues as you have it shown.
I did a Arnold video on that a few weeks ago ! Check it out
Hey Waylon!!! Love all the videos been watching you a very long time.
My wife and I play tons of craps. I’m thinking of playing this strategy while she plays $110 on inside or 220.
She tries for 2 hits and then regress.
What strategies should we use to get comps and kind of wash at the tables? Thinking she plays $100 pass I play $100 don’t what’s your opinion
You play 50$ pass with 12$ 6&8,let her play 100$ dp with 24$ 6&8! At the end of the day the pass / dp should win a little money so should the 6&8s! Should be great for comps also
Mr. Waylon, if you truly want to learn this game and how to beat it I can promise you a documented journey far more rewarding in doing than chasing Mr. Arnold and company. I wish you the best either way.
Appreciate it ! Don't let strategy names fool yah ! I have far better strats than the Arnold ! However it's great for a cold or choppy table! I have hundreds of strategies! In the end it's up to the player to have enough sense to play which strategy!
@@waylonswaycraps No my man, you're not hearing what I'm saying. There is only one way to beat that game.
Arnold from the don't (Darnold) is great for randys so I'm gonna do it on them and I can shoot pretty well so do the place bets and regress build em back up and run it
With your “normal” buy in, are you playing $25DP and $100 DC? Or do you adjust to the normal bank roll a lower $$ DP?
Up to you but id adjust to my bankroll
If you were starting with $500-1000, would you adjust your bet size accordingly or just keep reloading?
I'd ladder my losses up and down if I kept playing this strategy! It takes 2 minutes to rebuys no problem
Gonna try it tonight! This might be better!
They neck and neck
@@waylonswaycraps got hammered by come out 7’s and 11’s for awhile and went down about $900. (Didn’t hedge the DP come out. The hedge on the DC worked well however.)Crawled back and won a little. It recovers well. Won $425 this morning in less than an hour!
@@dalemoore9012 nice job ! Yeah comeout 7s are rough from the don't! You think you would've won it faster with the passline?
@@waylonswaycraps I switched to the pass line for awhile after I got down and had a guy next to me throw 6 consecutive come out 7’s. I won a lot this morning on the DP, so I am not sure right now. From what I have experienced, if there is a shooter hitting points the Passline is better. Choppy tables are better for the DP. I’ll keep experimenting. Really have to kind of get to know the shooters. I’m pretty good at comeout 7’s so I am going to experiment with switching to the DP if I hit a comeout 7 or 11. Lots of possibilities with this system. Thanks for introducing it!!
@@dalemoore9012 no problem brother! I'm glad you won $$
Can u explain the laying four bets?
He lays to cover the DC. 7 on DC loses, but lay pays half (push). Chooses 4 since it has only 3 ways to roll (can use the 10 as well). If 4 or 10 hits you lose the lay (ouch). Odds are in your favor in the long run. Martingale on next one to make up for loss. Believe there is 3 or 4 levels of doubling each time. Always a way to lose just gotta minimize as much as you can and hope dice roll the right way.
This un's stronger than a giraffes neck!
A damn giraffes neck is pretty damn strong lol
Hey Waylon, Is there a reason you don"t take odds?
Must be good. Bubble machine won't let me play it.
Lol
Must be a reason
What isn't it letting you do? Hedge the DP or DC?
@@michaeljames2536 it lets me bet two come bets and then no more.
im a dark shooter aswell so therefore i agree with this , love the dirty looks they give u at casino when u do this
Heck yeah
Your the best!! Have you tried Jimmy's 6,8 system. Just curious whats your opinion on Jimmy's system??
Don't make sense to me! 10 ways to roll a 6&8 vs 6 ways to roll a 7! And that's the odds on every roll of the dice! So why you waiting 8 rolls to make a bet? Idda made a fortune with his rolls
I would do a video comparing his strategy to one of mine but I don't wanna cause any hard feelings really
Starting to like the dark side 😂. Roll Tide
Yes sir ! Roll Tide
Waylon, if the DC gets hit when its placed do you replace it and if you do, are you hedging again with the 4?
Nevermind, I re-watched
@@oneweb9102 ok brother lol
I'm relatively new, will most casinos let you put $200 in odds on s $25 DP?
Some let you play 10x odds or more
$750.00 happy days happy days
Yes sir
I must have the worst luck with this game. I hit my own dc multiple times and then I switched strategies to the money tree king 6&8 where I proceeded to constantly lose on the 10&4 and at one point I didn’t roll a 6 or 8 for like 40 rolls but I tore the hell out of 9&5 and 10 &4s. Me and the dealers couldn’t believe it. As I was steady losing chip after chip every time I hit the 10 &4. After I was down I was like F it and put my last few hundred bucks on the don’t. I rolled a 10 for the point. And you guessed it right. I rolled the 10 back hard. Smfh😢 how did I turn into a hot shooter and kill myself? Love your videos tho bro you make it look so easy.
Dang brother I'll buy the 4&10 in a heartbeat if they rolling ! Can't be scared to swap it up
Is there any 5 or 10 tables in Biloxi
Yeah my favorite 5$ is at boomtown
I thought the payout for a lay bet on 4 is just half the money? How come your paying yourself even money? Am i wrong? Appreciate all the strategy videos sir!
I'm not even gonna say anything until you go back and watch again lol
Hey was laying the 4 for $200
@@iptvclub1575 that's a fact my friend
I hate when the part goes $25 dollar winner, $25 dollar winner, $25 dollar winner… Stops.
At 14:35... Why would you get paid $100 on the don't come 10? I'm new and confused. I thought the payoff was 1/2
Dp and DC pay even money! A lay 4 or 10 only pay half
@@waylonswaycraps Ok. Thank you, my friend, for all the great vids. I'm headed to Fremont Street and need all the help I can get. :)
just won $500 in 15 minutes playing evolution online, followed your strat exactly wayland. many thx! p.s. $25 level, 2.5k bankroll. never went below $2400 to make the $500.
Nice job brother
I tried this strategy earlier. Other players got beat up. I didn’t
Do you ladder this system or just play it straight up like this?
Same question from me -- what triggers a ladder if anything? You started in profit and stayed in profit throughout the video so knowing what you would do if you get into trouble would be helpful, Thanks!!
Well if I had laddered when I lost I would've made twice as much so you can make that decision on your own
@@oneweb9102 would've made way more money laddering on a loss but that's a decision for you to make ! It comes back from a loss pretty strong imo
How is he winning on the four coming out the gate can somebody explain it
Okay so there's no point he put money on the four and he wrote The 10 so how did he win on four
It's a lay 4 ! Don't pass loses on a comeout 7 but the lay 4 wins
Grab n push...I hear a push is always better than a shove?? You're getting good wit that stick ..set n stick moves it there n back
That's a fact brother! And the stick is just the athletic abilities in me lol
Will the casino consider you a Advantage player if they see you playing this system and ask you to leave
Of course not. It still has a negative result. You’re just closer to house edge. House edge is still present however and you can play this at any craps table in the world up to table max. And I have.
Although with your rolling you really never went negative would you ladder up if your $100 DC got hit a couple times right off the bat?
I also noticed a couple times you didn’t put the $50 on the lay 4 when you were coming out. I figured you were just on a roll and this was an oversight but it was never caught since your rolling was on fire! 😊
Yeah I probably would've laddered it up
He never hedged the DP come out when he already had a DC point on the board.
You always lay the $200 on the 4 except when the point was a 4, then you laid the $200 as odds on the DP. Would it be better to lay the $200 in that situation on the 10. That way you don’t lose the DP and the odds if the 4 hits again.
You could up to you! Same odds of hitting a 10 as the 4 but yeah
You don’t take odds when playing don’t pass?
Not a good idea playing odds on the don't! If you lose that bet it's hard to recover vs just a flat bet!
What about the Vig you pay when the 4 hits? You didn't account for it.
One of your best, you didn’t ladder up because you were never down, ladder the don’t come or not.?
Just asking for a friend, haha😅
Up to you I would've made more money but it's a strong one regardless! My ladder systems ain't no joke with proper bankroll
Good video.... I have come to a halt on interest in my channel..... any suggestions?
Keep at it brother!
...I like the simplicity of this awesome tweak! " I win here🤑, win there🤮, and win here🤗" from the don't pass this time... and the pit boss just jumped off the roof🤕 ! ...Just kidding! ! !... He quit his job😯...Ohhhh Happy Day 🌴🐟🎲🎨
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