We pay for fire services with taxes. We also have to pay the fire department for a variety of services if the need arrives (people calling the fire department on you for having a unlawful fire) you’ll have to pay
@Mikayel Միքայել : A person brought to a hospital or medical facility by ambulance doesn't need parking, and there's nothing really wrong with charging a fee to visitors. It helps to pay for maintenance costs, f.e. Think about it in a thoroughly pragmatic sense. I could understand your gripe when it comes to immediate family members visiting another who's hospitalized, so parents, spouse and immediate children, but not for relatives and friends, for medical facilities have limited parking space and ALL patients have the same right to be able to receive visitors. Now, expound upon that; and, don't forget that parking at medical facilities isn't only, often isn't anyway, only for people visiting patients, for it's also used by facility workers. Space is limited, and time also is. EVERY patient has the same rights, or definitely should. Try to not think about it dreamfully, but, instead, in practical terms. Patients brought to the med. facilities don't need public parking, and neither do ambulances, the latter having their own reserved places to park, totally separate from the public areas. When I've seen the latter, they were VERY proximate to Emergency Rooms, or whatever they're call, and NO one else is allowed into these small areas. We really need to think about all of this pragmatically. Maybe I'm overlooking something, but I don't know what that might be and, therefore, don't perceive a problem with parking at medical facilities. If a person can't afford the parking, then take a bus, taxi, or WALK. It's how I need to function, except when taken to hospital by ambulance, in which case, I'm normally not the person making the call for such service. It's happened.
Literally happened to me.... hospital was about 1/2 a mile ems pressured me hard to take the ambulance against my wishes total cost.. over 400 for a 3 min ride without sirens (it wasn’t an emergency)
Our US municipal ambulance service is tax funded. I have never had to use our canadian township ambulance, but if they’re saying on here that it’s $45, that’s not bad.
we as Canadians keep bragging to the world about our free healthcare..while the reality is not as such. Ambulance fees, prescription drugs, medical insurance fees, not to mention that dental care is not covered, as a matter of fact we pay the highest fees for dental care compared to other developed countries. All of this added up to long waiting times and doctor shortages. It's a nightmare.
+Ashley Maria I agree, like they mentioned in this video, ambulance charges depend on a case-to-case basis and also it depends on where your live. Your ambulance ride was cheap probably cause you it was your first time and it was an absolute emergency. Some patients, due to the nature of their condition, frequently need to be rushed to emergency department. I know these market place videos are over exaggerating things. Believe me our healthcare system seem mediocre compared to countries like England, Sweden, and Germany. And, I think the biggest problem by far is long waiting times caused by understaffed hospitals and doctors shortages. I been to ER twice. I was there at night and both times there was only a single ER doctor taking care of 50+ patients. I remember waiting over 6hrs to be seen by a doctor.
Mit.07.AF True, for me it wasn't the much because I don't live that far away. It wasn't my first trip to the hospital. Most insurance will cover ambulance fees.
I'm low income, and I have free doctors, prescription drugs, 2 free dental visits per year, and reimbursement for most medical-related costs. Medical coverage is tier based here, AFAICT.
+LittleMaliceManny if you're low income you qualify for trillium/obd, and thus you get all that paid out of our tax dollars. Note that I'm not complaining, i do well so I'm happy to pay a little extra tax to help low income families who need the help.
Let me get this straight. In Canada, a 3 day stay in the hospital is almost free. In the US, not only do we pay for the ambulance but 3 days in the hospital cost $28000.
Lol dude my girlfriend had a checkup at a hospital after getting a car crash which was not even her fault. 30 minute check up with 5 hours just laying on a bed for a total cost of 58,000. How do you pay for that??????? Good thing she had a lawyer that helped her fought her case.
@@Ilovepineapple I use Group Medical Service (GMS) in Saskatchewan and for $14.00 a month I am covered for any ambulance bill I would encounter. Living where I do, I face a transfer to a larger centre in a serious case. This normally would cost over $1000 given the two trips and the mileage involved.
This needs to be talked about in parliament. I remember how frustrated my sister was when a year ago she needed an ambulance and it costed her over a 1,000 dollars. Imagine getting a $1,500 bill from the fire department after your house nearly burns down. This is absolutely atrocious, a smack to the face of hurting Canadians.
The joke is during the overdose crisis I never seen anyone who overdoses get told they had to Pay I used to be told it was 150 for an ambulance ride to the hospital.. 4 years ago to surrey memorial
I agree with the $45 charge in Ontario, but no higher than that. I work in health care and I believe that many of my patients who attend hospital for minor illness would use the ambulance as a taxi service to the hospital if it was free. Many do not drive and live on social assistance.
In my state in Australia ambulance service is free. When people call for an ambulance, those with minor ailments get referred to a community health line. Some get treated by paramedics at home or get taken to their local doctor instead of to a hospital if it's warranted.
Coover in the USA Oregon Portland my brother was taken to the hospital in Uber then was transferred to an other hospital and the cost was at least 1000+ and they took 2 hours to arrive ,the hospital was great and in about a week he recovered btw he had Appendicitis
+rodolo 1. *Argie DEFAULTED on their currency, so you parasites aren't even paying* for 100% of your healthcare or ANY other of your govt systems. 2. Your PRIVATE hospitals are decent, but the PUBLIC sector ("free") is as broken as the rest of LatAmer nations:
I live in the US. I once worked with a woman that had a heart condition. She told us if she collapsed at work not to call an ambulance. Apparently it happened before and her insurance refused to cover it.
Uh, no. There is no "market" for ambulances. Government restricts how many paramedics, ambulances, and ambulance companies exist through regulation. Government also makes the process of starting an ambulance company needlessly arduous and difficult, in order to help the existing players keep competition out. If there were a market in ambulances, the costs would decline drastically. You need to research what capitalism is.
toobadsosad83 kinda, capitalism is paying for your stuff, so jea going into debth is capitalism on one side, as you have to pay, but the fees and prices on the other hand arent truely capitalist, as if you wont be searching online, which ambulance is cheapest while your kid is lying on the ground with a bullet in the leg.
25 years ago here in Australia we had similar issues with cost of ambulances and then the government made it mandatory to pay a $2 weekly fee for the cost to help ambulance service and now everyone is covered no bills!. This is done through the power bills as everyone has to have power, pay the small fee and everyone is covered.
StyxNyx1 try talking with health professionals and local members of congress. Start a Facebook group and let people know there are options in which the government should look at. Everyone needs power and I honestly don’t notice the small ambo fees as I know if anything happens to me and family I’m covered. Thanks
gustavo lopez I don’t care about ambulance fees but flight for life should be free because u don’t get to make that decision, the flight for life decisions was made by Ambulance medical staff not the patient
When something is free it is often not respected. I live in the UK and I personally knew some one who called an ambulance for a sunburn. And another who took her child with a sprained arm in an ambulance . Unfortunately ambulances can get treated like taxis. But I do think it should be a flat, affordable rate...just one that discourages abuse. And then people’s taxes should be raised to cover the shortfall.
It is but not when you have a terminally I'll family member to care for. Bills on bills. It's hard either way. People shouldn't be paying more than 50$ insured or not for an ambulance. It's ridiculous how governments and businesses are allowed to rob people like this
I'd like to thank Canada and the CBC for some amazing investigative reporting on Marketplace, at this point in the USA we have no nationally aired program that does such hard hitting reporting about consumer affairs, some local TV stations across the country which are commercial, do some small consumer affairs report segments, but they also are affected by advertisers which hampers their ability to do truly honest reporting and don't have the resources of a large organization like the CBC.
@@yaboimax6356 I agree with you, but when it comes to consumer interest stories they can actually do a decent job, when it comes to other things not so much. Especially their own leaders and gov't, agreed 1000%.
wwemario12345 I m surpassed.. I thought Canada' health system is one of the best. In India, we have worst health system in the world probably but ambulance is free.
Well we need to have a beef with our insurance then and stand up for our rights, we pay them and they make profit if something doesn’t happen so if something does they need to cover us
My first ever hospital stay started at a med center which sent me via ambulance to hospital. 5 mile ride and a $1200.00 bill for the ride... I am in US.
Oh... I had pneumonia... Not a heart attack or anything requiring life saving care during the ride. Update: Looking back on the bill, my ambulance ride was actually $1875.00, the $1200.00 is what I owed after insurance paid $675.00. I understand these services aren't free, but neither should they take gross advantage of the ill.
Ray R my brother went in a car crash with 3 friends and one of then had to go in a helcopter and he ended dying because it took like 3 hours and his mom had to pay like 8000
It blows my mind when I see what Americans have to pay for health care. My niece married very well off, good thing she did. Certain illnesses can cost u thousands of $'s. Medications they can run a couple of grand also. Luckily they can afford to pay these prices but what about those that cannot. What happens to them? Supposed to be the greatest nation yet has no free health care system. I guess many, many people do not go to a hospital or dr., they cannot afford to and I am positive a lot of people have died due to lack of money.
+Chloe wilson. Well, welcome to the land of the free... What a joke. I avoid and haven't been to a doctor in several years because of the costs, yet I pay $100 from my paycheck (and my employer pays around $100 also) each week for premiums!! $200 per week to Blue Cross and still, with my copays and percentage of medical bills due you may as well say I have no insurance,. Instead, I help to make the insurance company wealthy. It is nothing short of legalized racketeering for those who work in the USA.
Wade Wright is very good the problem ppl used to abused calling the ambulance x nothing we have all free x hospital and everthing some people I saw ppl calling the ambulance x nothing they abused the system
Agree with you. Actually all over Europe you don't have to pay ANYTHING because it's covered by taxes. In (North) America they pay (lower) taxes, but they get nothing more than EXTRA-BILLS! Despite the fact that Italy is a s*itty Country for many things, you cannot blame Italian public healthcare. The exception is some part of the south...
If I need a ambulance i'll call uber they have a much quicker response time nearly 5 minutes if not more difference and I don't need to call so I save more time.
Thanks God Ambulance, Doctors and Hospitals are for free in Denmark, i can call as many time i whant, and i can go and drive as many time as i wish it do not cost me 1 penny, we all pay Tax in Denmark, and the Tax cover this kind of things, some need to use it offen some never use it, but dossentt matter if you use it alot or a littel it's still for free for enyone there use it in Denmark.
UN have for many years nominated Denmark as the happiest nation on the planet regardless of their highest tax rate, one of their arguments is that nobody worries if they are able to pay their hospital bill the day they get sick, as it is already been paid for through the taxes.
The reason a patient needs to be transferred to another hospital is because the hospital they are at is cannot provide sufficient care. Taxes are paid to the government to provide medical care to Canadians. If that hospital cannot provide sufficient care, it is up to the government to provide that care, regardless of cost. Therefore, if a patient needs to be transferred to another hospital to be given sufficient care, that needs to be provided at no cost. I think this is more a problem of interpretation of the legislation. Maybe our government needs to read their own legislation closer!
Hiw can Canada and the US get away with this? In the UK anything medical related with ambulances and hospital treatment is free.Youd think when the US spends around 500 billion on millitary they could use some of that for medical issues.
+Henning Bjornessen At least we don't hold the denstest at gunpoint and demand to be at the front of the que. And yes there may be waiting times, but that's because we are considerate and accept that others need attention too, after all that's the whole point in a waiting time. The NHS has a better quality service in all anyway and you don't have to pay a single penny, not one (for the potentially huge bill you could rack up)(excluding tax ect) meanwhile if you needed mountian rescue or an air ambulance and a couple of ambulance trips, coupled with medicines, you'd need to sell your house in 'MURICA'!!!! YEE HAA. So there you go.
+Stan Kleppetvsfriend I can't be arsed arguing on YT, but for your information I'm currently living in a house that's £555,000 which has a front and rear garden. we also have a holiday cottage with a quarter acre of grounds. only some reside in council housing. Go and spend your day and argue with another person you don't know.
The BlueBearDuck I live in the United States, and yes our millitary is big, but the real reason is how long politicians have been arguing about how to n pay that money, rather then how insurance companies demand big discounts. that then causes hospitals to inflate the prices so much so insurance companies can then make it reasonable. there's an Adam ruins everything on it, you'll find it by looking it up
+LovePeaceAntiFanatic america is way worse they forced me into an ambulance and charged my mom 5000 dollars for the ride and lke 8000 dollars for cat scan without any signature of my mom or mine.
+LovePeaceAntiFanatic As a Moroccan we pay high taxes for no reason !!! lol firefighters have to be payed and ambulances too also hospitals !! and at the end you get shity service and in most cases ambulance appear after patient dies !!
Armando Sanchez But think about Canada's economy, with the middle east stealing all the oil sales, and all the people being laid off and businesses going out of business because of rental costs for the buildings and stuff like that.
Ever taken a taxi? In most places, 5 miles costs at minimum, $25 dollars. Thats without a medical practitioner available. Take an Uber for the same trip, oh that's just $45 to $80 dollars depending on the day of the week or time of day.
When i drove taxi it was common to have people call us for medical emergencies rather than call for an ambulance. Part of the reason was because when they centrally dispatch, people thought it was easier & faster to call a local taxi because they would get there faster due to having a better knowledge of the local roads , etc. They also believed that if they said it was a medical emergency they thought it would get them the first availible taxi, but in some places it doesn't. I went to a senior's house for a medical once (she had frequent falls), the ambulance office/dispatch/hall was literally 7 doors down, but because she fell so often & even had the call alert necklace, they REFUSED to answer her calls for help! It took 3 of us to get her off her floor & we got in touch with her family, her church & the mayor's office and managed to get her situation fixed. The ambulance people were slammed by the mayor & council and almost lost their contract over it.
Ha, complaining about the ambulance bill. Right now I'm $6,000 in debt for a 3 day stay in the hospital. A few years back I broke my shoulder, saw the doctor for 5 minutes, got a single xray, a sling and 2 weeks of weak painkillers, $1500.
You pay less taxes dumbass... It's all ads ups! I'm a full-time student and a part-time bank employee and I still pay 20% in income tax. Imagine a full-time worker with kids.
My point is it all ads up... My last paycheck I payed 28.9% of tax due to working overtime and my next paycheck I'm probably going to be taxed even more due to my quarterly bonus and working full hours (37.5) during my winter break. in the states the it's as low as 5%
I live in the US, and I have told all the people I live with to NEVER call me an ambulance. Unfortunately, the US also has that 'Good Samaratin' law...
@@robertthompson5352 no, but at least, solidarity kicks in. But feel free if you prefer the wild west and social Darwinism. Survival of the fattest cat.
I’am from Minnesota in the United States and I’ve both had to call an ambulance and pay the $2000.00 fee as well as have taken my EMS Course and been apart of the crew being paid $13.00/Hour to save lives. It’s an incredibly broken system.
+Anna Mae Alexander In SOME parts of the US the county paid paramedics send you a bill when you did not call and refused care from them. They charge you because you live in another county.
I was sick and had a fever once. At 2 or 3am I was hallucinating and I was trying to wake my girlfriend up who was lying beside me but I couldn't get words out.. She eventually woke up and felt me, I was REALLY hot to touch but she was scared to call 911 because she didn't know what we would have to pay So she called her grandma to ask her what to do, then she called my mom who drove an hour to our place.. It took ice packs and lots of water but I cooled off, it was really scary.. I should have gone to the hospital that night but the uncertainty on the ambulance fee put doubt in my girlfriends mind on if she should call or not... If I was able to think clearly I would have told her to call 911 for sure, but I couldn't talk so I couldnt tell her that I was not ok Idiots are ruining our healthcare system.. The people who call 911 for non emergencies are the same people who clog the emergency rooms because they have a headahe, or because their kid is sick.. Go to a clinic in the morning!! 6 hour waits in emergency rooms from these idiot people.. Is it immigrants who don't know an emergency room isn't a replacement for a family doctor? I don't get it My impression is that this ambulance fee was meant as a deterrent, to make sure people who call for an ambulance are actually in an emergency.. In my experience though what the fee does is put doubt in a persons mind right before they call 911.. Someone who 100% should call 911 is only 90% sure, or if they're really poor maybe 50% sure.. that's not productive for the health of people
If anybody has any type of problem that needs to be taken care of a doctor then anyone including people with headaches can go to an emergency room just not dial 911 unless it's a real emergency like someone bleeding to death. I had to take my mom to the hospital because of a bad headache thank god I did cause it was a dangerous thing they had to put medications thru her veins..1 week later I had to rush to the hospital cuase she was/was almost having a heart attack. So don't come saying to not go to an emergency center if u have something simple...WHY? Cause small things can cause big things.
Dee Jay so? If the emergency room can handle it and they wanna pay for the bill or are covered who are you to say where they should go? It would be the hospitals fault for not giving priority to what needs to be given priority. Idk how it works where u live but here where I live hospitals aren't slow unless u have something really easy in a busy day
Claroboy911 Where I live, and where lots of people live, the emergency room wait is hours. I've waited 6 hours to see a doctor before, and that's not unusual here (B.C.)
KiloByte69 Oh, shut up. At least people who can't afford the ambulances are still getting the care they deserve. Yeah, it's paid by taxes, but so what? Would you rather pay a smaller tax or pay an ambulance out of pocket?
Jorge Padua First of all, everyone who needs an ambulance gets one, you dimwit. And like any taxpayer funded service it gets abused by lazy deadbeats who don't have a medical emergency. Furthermore, I'd rather pay for the services that I need. Socializing healthcare is forces the healthy to subsidize the costs generated by everyone else, including people who don't take good care of themselves. So no, it wouldn't be "smaller".
I am appalled and disgusted at the fact that the Canadian Government has outrageous ambulance fees. I am also appalled and disgusted that if a Canadian needs emergency care they need to pay for ambulance fees. I believe that healthcare is a right that everyone should have access too and that includes emergency services. Healthcare should not be used as a tool to make money off of vulnerable people in their time of need. Also the conversation with the Executive Director, Debra, is very insincere and a waste of time as she clearly does not seem.... I will actually say is not concerned with the ambulance fees. Basically, all she says is oh well, that's the way it is, which is disgusting. I can make the statement that it is "UnCanadian" of her, however it goes beyond being "UnCanadian" it is just having basic human dignity and this applies to all politicians and people in power to make the decision to eliminate the cost of ambulance fees. I was also in shock hearing the answer from Debra that there is no interest in changing ambulance fees. It causes me to shake my head and wonder about the people who make these types of decisions.
Same with America. I was less than 8 hours from dying. My liver and kidneys were failing and had to be transferred to a different hospital. It was a 25 minute ride and it was 2,200 dollars. The hospital bill in all was $250,000. Our insurance pay for most of it though
That's expensive, worth it to live, but still. Does a person need to make the choice, Get gouged in the bank and go to the hospital and spend a long time paying back the bills or risk/play Russian roulette with their life or their child's, family members or anyone else's life?
One more thing... This woman is a good reporter. She gets to the truth and she knows how to confront someone's bullcrap. This is true journalism, celebrity news Americans are so enamored with
its not free health care its affordable healthcare... Half my paycheck goes to taxes and on whats left im taxed 25% on everything i buy and after all that the healthcare system still struggles keeping costs low enough to be sustainable. With the massive amount of people retiring soon combined with longer life expectancy the system will collapse soon.
@@furtim1 I went into anaphylaxis during a drs appt and was taken by ambulance across the street from one campus to the er on another...$1600 in the usa... luckily my insurance paid most of it
No emergency services should cost anything, even in the US. It broke my heart and made me cry to learn this Mom's daughter ended up dying. I'm so sorry.
well not to compare humans to pizza, but if my pizza doesn't arrive at my house "acceptable". in this case the patient being "alive", i don't take the pizza, and i don't give them money
Hörður Heimisson unfortunately when your spouse dies, you take on their debt. At least in the U.S. that is. I’m not 100% sure but I believe your children take on the debt too, but I think I’m 100% wrong. So don’t quote me.
Nope, Your only responsible for your spouse's bills and your children's bills that are under 18 in the U.S.A. Trust me, my ex's mother died and he had just turned 18. Hospital TRIED to say he was responsible as her son for her bills. I told him no way. I called a lawyer because those shisters were pressuring him. The only thing he did pay for was to cremate her. Her sister had died two mos before so cemetery tried to say he had to pay his mom's sister's burial bill his poor mom was still making payments on her sister's burial when she herself died. He could not. So he could not bury his mother's urn. So he has it on his bookshelf today and he is just fine with that. God bless.
In Ontario, people do use it as a taxi. People call get brought to the hospital then walk out and head to there friends house. the Nurses at the London hospital are completely shocked by it. In a lot of cases if a person who took an ambulance to the hospital and has no one to pick them up, the hospital pays for a cab! One nurse I spoke with used to work in the USA and claims in most cases their medical ways are far superior to ours.
Bit of a difference in training and equipment between India and developed countries. But, you're right-health care should be free no matter what country your in. I can understand places like Papua New Guinea, a country where some police stations have such a low budget, they ask for fuel money before coming to you. But the US is doing no favours to the average American when it comes to health care access.
I live in Florida and am still paying off an $800 ambulance bill. The doctor gave my 2 year old daughter the wrong medication in the breathing machine and then freaked out and called an ambulance. She was ok but the EMT said there really was no need for the ambulance after she was taken. He’s the one who also informed me that the doctor should not have given that medication to her. And It’s crazy to have to pay that much when we have pretty good insurance through my husband’s job.
in Argentina the ambulances are cover by the state, unless you have a private emergency companie coverage, last year a friend crash his face in a bike accident, public hospital cover the titanium prostesis and reconstructive surgery, dont cost anything. sometimes i wonder what some people call "Third world"
+rod 1. Argie DEFAULTED on their currency, so you parasites aren't even paying for 100% of your healthcare or ANY other of your govt systems. 2. Your PRIVATE hospitals are decent, but the PUBLIC sector ("free") is as broken as the rest of LatAmer nations:
Frankly, I think the best option is for the hospital to take into account the income of the family. This also includes looking at age, how many times this particular person has traveled by ambulance to the hospital, as well as how critical an emergency was. Taking all this into account, ambulance fees should be adjusted accordingly. I understand that money is needed to provide services like this, but charges should only apply to those who are able to pay to help provide ambulance service to those who may not be able to afford it
142$ in Nova Scotia? Bullshit. MSI had no problem charging just under 600$ for the last ambulance ride my daughter took when she passed away. I didn't feel a bit guilty tearing that bill up either. If NS can afford to make ambulances free (within the last few months, low income only I think) than every other province should be able to handle it, if only for the fixed and low income families and individuals.
Jesiah Mac Fuck yeah, its free here :D But hell no, people don't take ambulances as free taxis, if u call ambulance to be a taxi, you break law and that if something WILL be HUGE ticket.
+optimusmikey Have you ever needed to use an Ambulance? Because I have. Me, my dad and my grandpa have all had to call out an ambulance on more than one occasion for each of us. With all 3 of us, it is serious stuff in talking about. But none of us would be here if we didn't have the ambulance service. I am glad it comes out of taxes. I think nearly everyone who says it should be people's own responsibilities to pay for medical fees (from start to finish) have never needed to use the service. I honestly don't know where this family would be if we didn't have free healthcare. We are looked after so well in this country with regards to healthcare. Yes, there are flaws. But there always will be in any system, free or not.
***** I do pay for my medical bills. I pay for them every time I pay my taxes to the Government. We even have to pay for our medicines at chemists. My taxes also help to pay for the not so well-off so no one in this county goes without any medical help.
Hamzah Rassul it’s the same in canada. this video is only about ambulance fee’s which are actually still fairly cheap. It’s only $45 here in ontario where i live and where most canadians live. i feel bad for the other provinces but even compared to america it’s cheap. nonetheless your point about not paying in the hospital is the same as here.
Hamzah Rassul The ambulance is free. But how long does it take for it to come? I have a friend who lost his eye because the envelope in the suburbs ofLondon arrived two hours after his call
My grand daughter has the same condition and my daughter went threw the exact situation and the bills piled up fast and on a fixed income cuz both parents had to stay home and give her 24 -7 care plenty of times they had to get someone to drive them all hours of the day or night to emergency to avoid the bills now she passed away 1 month ago but the bills are still haunting them as well as other costs
John Pirie that is so sad. You should do a gofundme page for them. Some ppl dont give because of so many scamers but some ppl do. And at this point I bet even $50 would be appreciated by them
If she would setup a go fund me page (for the ambulance rides for Sarah Buss daughter, not sure how to spell her name) I would gladly help, and share for more help!!!!!
I'm glad it's not paid for by the government. You need to use it? You pay for it. I've driven myself to the hospital before, to save money on an ambulance. People need to be responsible for their own situations.
OMG...Canadian pay such low prices on their medical care. Even for ambulance that is still cheap compare to USA. If they have to pay what we pay here in the state ranging from $1000 up per ride then they should feel lucky still cheap service there.
this is ridiculous. the purpose of having a universal health care is to help people. You cant just charge people for needing help. there needs to be a change!
Yes it does! i was shocked with the thousands of dollars those two people had to pay,. I hope in the very close future its changed and quickly. This has to stop NOW.
We do not have Universal Health Care, and never have. We have Universal ACCESS to emergency health care. In many provinces, medications are not covered, nor are any preventative treatments. You break a leg, you get a cast, but not physiotherapy. Our healthcare system is not set up to make people healthy, but to generate money for pharmaceutical companies by treating illness instead of preventing it.
You're right, but at least this is better to have access. I forgot that sometimes some people dont have personal health care coverage, other than the provincial one that we all have. I am personally lucky to have a personal health coverage from my job that practically covers most things. I have used the EMS before, and only had to pay 5 dollars- the rest my own health insurance took care of the rest.
I am going to give everyone here a secret that the ambulance companies DONT want you to know. you DON'"T have to pay the ambulance bill. 99% of the time the company will send you a bill, don't pay it, they will send you another bill, don't pay that one either and that should be the last you hear from the ambulance company because legally they have to respond to your call for help and cant ignore you because you have not paid them. if they do the open themselves up to a huge lawsuit. so you don't have to pay them and they will still respond to you.
if your ambulance company is run from your local fire station like mine is then there is nothing they can do and they even told us so. I work with a guy who was a paramedic for 20+ years and I go to the fire station every Tuesday night. they told me if you don't pay the first bill they will send a second and if you don't pay that bill you will never here from them again about the bill.
While it is true that they will respond to you regardless of ability to pay, they can just send bills to collections and collection agencies will take shits on your credit report
all of these ideas on how they get their money always depends on where you live but most of the time they will not send the bill to a collection agency because like the people said in this video, not being able to pay should not be a factor in weather or not to call an ambulance. then I guess someone will find a way to sue the ambulance company because a person they loved died because they were afraid to call an ambulance because of the bill.
money is always more important, yes (slaps people in the head) no family is always more important and if you read my comments again carefully you will see I am just telling people how they can save some money so they can do more things with their families.
You don't get arrested for not paying a bill, but like Quoc Le says, so what if he gets arrested? At least in jail he'll receive excellent medical coverage for FREE!
Jaron Branham One would think so, but I do know people who have filed bankruptcy and they still get tons of credit card offers, etc., and surprisingly the rates aren't that much different that the ones offered to people with good credit. But, you're right, home loans become difficult. That being said, the guy is probably not going to be trying to get home loans. He's in his "golden" years. For him, bankruptcy wouldn't be detrimental.
In the US, I know someone who was denied an insurance claim for an ambulance ride because it was not preapproved. Not sure how or when that was supposed to get preapproved.
I was a visitor to Canada when I felt unwell. My host took me to a clinic which I had to pay for. I collapsed whilst I was with the doctor, an ambulance was summoned but I have been told my host had to go through my pockets to find a credit card. The cost was taken from my card BEFORE I was transported (unconscious) to the local hospital. My insurance co. wouldn't pay, but that does not surprise me.
Google "two tier Canada": the PRIVATE sector system is great, if you can afford it. The PUBLIC sector (socialized/socialist) system is actually worse (in terms of Surgical Outcomes, etc) than some of the Banana Republics like Costa Rica and rightwing Panama/Chile "private hospitals" give. In every nation which allows the "two tiers" to compete, the public sector/socialized system gives worse Surgical Outcomes, etc, than the PRIVATE (capitalist) sector, consistently.
bullshit, in Argentina the public health sistem works great, in fact we have cases of people coming from US and other europeans countrys to receive treatment, almost for free.
So we get charged for an ambulance ride due to medical emergency, but criminals get free transportation to jail?
How is that even...
Generally criminals on their way to jail don't have a lot of money.
Tea
idk about canada. but in the US they bill you.
@reverse thrust wtf?? Really !? That's unbelievable. ...
15:47 "You don't pay for the fire department to come put your fire out?" DONT GIVE THEM ANYMORE IDEAS, MAN!!!!
Exactly
We pay for fire services with taxes. We also have to pay the fire department for a variety of services if the need arrives (people calling the fire department on you for having a unlawful fire) you’ll have to pay
Just stating facts
Voltaic Fire Wait, really?! Was this in Canada or US? I’m genuinely curious about this.
@@deathslanger666 Talk about being disingenuous.
Let me get this if healthcare is "free" in Canada shouldn't the ambulance and the parking be a part of the "free" package???
Transportation =/= healthcare
Ambulances are pretty cheap compared to the states
@Mikayel
You're so correct. Private insurance shouldn't be the alternative. Should be an election CAN 2o19 issue.
Ambulances are transportation, not health care. Private insurance for just ambulance coverage is cheap. Parking is not health care either.
@Mikayel Միքայել : A person brought to a hospital or medical facility by ambulance doesn't need parking, and there's nothing really wrong with charging a fee to visitors. It helps to pay for maintenance costs, f.e. Think about it in a thoroughly pragmatic sense. I could understand your gripe when it comes to immediate family members visiting another who's hospitalized, so parents, spouse and immediate children, but not for relatives and friends, for medical facilities have limited parking space and ALL patients have the same right to be able to receive visitors. Now, expound upon that; and, don't forget that parking at medical facilities isn't only, often isn't anyway, only for people visiting patients, for it's also used by facility workers. Space is limited, and time also is. EVERY patient has the same rights, or definitely should. Try to not think about it dreamfully, but, instead, in practical terms. Patients brought to the med. facilities don't need public parking, and neither do ambulances, the latter having their own reserved places to park, totally separate from the public areas. When I've seen the latter, they were VERY proximate to Emergency Rooms, or whatever they're call, and NO one else is allowed into these small areas. We really need to think about all of this pragmatically. Maybe I'm overlooking something, but I don't know what that might be and, therefore, don't perceive a problem with parking at medical facilities. If a person can't afford the parking, then take a bus, taxi, or WALK. It's how I need to function, except when taken to hospital by ambulance, in which case, I'm normally not the person making the call for such service. It's happened.
Caller: Help I'm Getting Robbed
Police: That'll be $1000
Caller: Never mind it's cheaper to get robbed.
Dont give them idea.
@ccrplex : Funny.
Funny but it will never happen cuz you already pay the police with your tax money.
I just about died reading this good one bud
Get a gun and protect yourself. I'd never place such a important task to another.
-I've been shot
- That will be $10,000
-nvm I can run to the hospital
caskets are 8000$ cheaper (for good caskets)
Literally happened to me.... hospital was about 1/2 a mile ems pressured me hard to take the ambulance against my wishes total cost.. over 400 for a 3 min ride without sirens (it wasn’t an emergency)
Crap! My mom just fell and broke her hip and can’t move
That’ll be $10,000
Nvm I’ll just drive her myself
When I broke my leg and hip i got a bill for the ambulance, which i couldn't afford. A few months later i paid it in nickels, unrolled
The people who waste the 1st responders time my calling them when they dont really need to ruin it for the ones who do
$325 for an ambulance ride? That’s chump change compared to the U.S.
My cost is 0 for my local area.... but keep talking about U.S.
@@mattlane2282 I second at 0$. U.S. is just an overused blanket statement.
@@brysoncherry9884 I live in N.C. almost $1000 for ambulance,I'm about 15 minutes from the hospital.
Our US municipal ambulance service is tax funded. I have never had to use our canadian township ambulance, but if they’re saying on here that it’s $45, that’s not bad.
I went less than a half mile to the hospital and it cost me 500 in the U.S.
HELP I'M GETTING MURDERED!!!
Police: Great. That will be $1000
Lol
Hahahahaha
meanwhile in mexico...
and they ask for your credit card information over the phone?
Better than increasing taxes.
Survival of the fittest FTW
we as Canadians keep bragging to the world about our free healthcare..while the reality is not as such. Ambulance fees, prescription drugs, medical insurance fees, not to mention that dental care is not covered, as a matter of fact we pay the highest fees for dental care compared to other developed countries.
All of this added up to long waiting times and doctor shortages. It's a nightmare.
I don't know what your talking about I had to call an ambulance it cost 15.00 all my medication is free.
+Ashley Maria I agree, like they mentioned in this video, ambulance charges depend on a case-to-case basis and also it depends on where your live. Your ambulance ride was cheap probably cause you it was your first time and it was an absolute emergency. Some patients, due to the nature of their condition, frequently need to be rushed to emergency department.
I know these market place videos are over exaggerating things. Believe me our healthcare system seem mediocre compared to countries like England, Sweden, and Germany. And, I think the biggest problem by far is long waiting times caused by understaffed hospitals and doctors shortages. I been to ER twice. I was there at night and both times there was only a single ER doctor taking care of 50+ patients. I remember waiting over 6hrs to be seen by a doctor.
Mit.07.AF True, for me it wasn't the much because I don't live that far away. It wasn't my first trip to the hospital. Most insurance will cover ambulance fees.
I'm low income, and I have free doctors, prescription drugs, 2 free dental visits per year, and reimbursement for most medical-related costs.
Medical coverage is tier based here, AFAICT.
+LittleMaliceManny if you're low income you qualify for trillium/obd, and thus you get all that paid out of our tax dollars. Note that I'm not complaining, i do well so I'm happy to pay a little extra tax to help low income families who need the help.
Let me get this straight. In Canada, a 3 day stay in the hospital is almost free. In the US, not only do we pay for the ambulance but 3 days in the hospital cost $28000.
John Cipolletti that’s why one’s supposed to pay for insurance.
Lol dude my girlfriend had a checkup at a hospital after getting a car crash which was not even her fault. 30 minute check up with 5 hours just laying on a bed for a total cost of 58,000. How do you pay for that??????? Good thing she had a lawyer that helped her fought her case.
Sound about right.
Seriously man... and they are complaining about an ambulance bill. Lmao
@@Ilovepineapple I use Group Medical Service (GMS) in Saskatchewan and for $14.00 a month I am covered for any ambulance bill I would encounter. Living where I do, I face a transfer to a larger centre in a serious case. This normally would cost over $1000 given the two trips and the mileage involved.
Might as well start Uber ambulance services lmao.
Kornelius Heydrich LOL
Kornelius Heydrich Jimmy Kimmel already started Uberlance lol
Kornelius Heydrich that's actually a really good idea. Get licensed and certified you'll make money like crazy.
Get sued like crazy too if a patient dies in your care. It's a high risk industry.
Kornelius Heydrich
good idea
“Help I’ve been shot in the leg”
“That’ll be 5,000 dollars”
“It’s fine I’ll drive myself”
More like "Its fine, I'll just walk"
@@ghostrider2240 more like "it's fine, i'll just crawl instead"
@@curtisj2165 more like "it's fine, I'll lay down and crawl"
@@okito_gwk then pay for ambo membership
No walk !
This needs to be talked about in parliament. I remember how frustrated my sister was when a year ago she needed an ambulance and it costed her over a 1,000 dollars.
Imagine getting a $1,500 bill from the fire department after your house nearly burns down. This is absolutely atrocious, a smack to the face of hurting Canadians.
Democracy Not Parliament
Canadians Americans And Australians
The joke is during the overdose crisis I never seen anyone who overdoses get told they had to Pay I used to be told it was 150 for an ambulance ride to the hospital.. 4 years ago to surrey memorial
They charge you thousands for an ambulance ride but pay the Paramedics like $8-$9 an hour!!
Stephanie M y$8-$9? Are u sure, where are you from?
that is true comment
I get 3.50 an hour for being on call 13.36 an hour for a call.
Leo Wong im a paramedic firefighter please tell me whos paying $55/hr if youre not a chief
They make 26+
Ms. Johnson is as an amazing reporter. She persists and asks them the hard questions. No coddling or sugar coating here.
I agree with the $45 charge in Ontario, but no higher than that. I work in health care and I believe that many of my patients who attend hospital for minor illness would use the ambulance as a taxi service to the hospital if it was free. Many do not drive and live on social assistance.
In my state in Australia ambulance service is free. When people call for an ambulance, those with minor ailments get referred to a community health line. Some get treated by paramedics at home or get taken to their local doctor instead of to a hospital if it's warranted.
Coover in the USA Oregon Portland my brother was taken to the hospital in Uber then was transferred to an other hospital and the cost was at least 1000+ and they took 2 hours to arrive ,the hospital was great and in about a week he recovered btw he had Appendicitis
I agree!
I agree with you!!
@@coover65 NSW
I'm glad I live in the UK the ambulance is free here. even in the third world countries you don't pay for the ambulance it's totally disgusting.
You do pay in the United States - usually about $400 with siren
+Clay Montee He said the UK not US.
youre rigth mate, in Argentina dont pay for the medical asistance, in fact we have public health totally free.
+rodolo 1. *Argie DEFAULTED on their currency, so you parasites aren't even paying* for 100% of your healthcare or ANY other of your govt systems.
2. Your PRIVATE hospitals are decent, but the PUBLIC sector ("free") is as broken as the rest of LatAmer nations:
I live in the US. I once worked with a woman that had a heart condition. She told us if she collapsed at work not to call an ambulance. Apparently it happened before and her insurance refused to cover it.
I totally agree a parent shouldn't have to worry about their child's lift and going into debt at the same moment terrible.
Life*
thats capatalism for ya
Uh, no. There is no "market" for ambulances. Government restricts how many paramedics, ambulances, and ambulance companies exist through regulation. Government also makes the process of starting an ambulance company needlessly arduous and difficult, in order to help the existing players keep competition out. If there were a market in ambulances, the costs would decline drastically.
You need to research what capitalism is.
ApocZak. She said in Virgina
toobadsosad83 kinda, capitalism is paying for your stuff, so jea going into debth is capitalism on one side, as you have to pay, but the fees and prices on the other hand arent truely capitalist, as if you wont be searching online, which ambulance is cheapest while your kid is lying on the ground with a bullet in the leg.
25 years ago here in Australia we had similar issues with cost of ambulances and then the government made it mandatory to pay a $2 weekly fee for the cost to help ambulance service and now everyone is covered no bills!. This is done through the power bills as everyone has to have power, pay the small fee and everyone is covered.
That's a great idea! Wish the US would adopt that idea.
StyxNyx1 try talking with health professionals and local members of congress. Start a Facebook group and let people know there are options in which the government should look at. Everyone needs power and I honestly don’t notice the small ambo fees as I know if anything happens to me and family I’m covered. Thanks
No in the USA 🇺🇸 they are to busy golfing
Jaime Cruz omg that’s so unfair and very unprofessional of them. Thanks for letting me know that
i would agree with that here in the usa. 2-5.00 dollars on the power bill would not even be noticed by most folks.
"$350" I wish it was that cheep in the U.S. :/
Your not adding in the other fee's
That is not cheap if you are on a fixed income.
I KNOW RIGHT IT CAN BE A COUPLE THOUSAND HERE!
"free" for me in the US...
Noah Steele ok come live in canada.
Is not that coldddd.
People should pay for using an ambulance, but it should be like $20 a trip not nearly $2000.
gustavo lopez why not just free
Oscar Pelaez No such thing as free. Someone has to pay for it.
gustavo lopez I don’t care about ambulance fees but flight for life should be free because u don’t get to make that decision, the flight for life decisions was made by Ambulance medical staff not the patient
When something is free it is often not respected. I live in the UK and I personally knew some one who called an ambulance for a sunburn. And another who took her child with a sprained arm in an ambulance . Unfortunately ambulances can get treated like taxis. But I do think it should be a flat, affordable rate...just one that discourages abuse. And then people’s taxes should be raised to cover the shortfall.
Ware r u from
Oh sry ur from the jungle
Wit no humaniti 😓😓my bad im rely sry
In the USA ambulance rides START at $800 - $900. $325 is CHEAP in comparison!!
It is but not when you have a terminally I'll family member to care for. Bills on bills. It's hard either way. People shouldn't be paying more than 50$ insured or not for an ambulance. It's ridiculous how governments and businesses are allowed to rob people like this
@K M I guess so..
I'd like to thank Canada and the CBC for some amazing investigative reporting on
Marketplace, at this point in the USA we have no nationally aired program that does such hard hitting reporting about consumer affairs, some local TV stations across the country which are commercial, do some small consumer affairs report segments, but they also are affected by advertisers which hampers their ability to do truly honest reporting and don't have the resources of a large organization like the CBC.
Oh yes I'd love to get all of my news from a company run by the government. The government always has my best interests at heart.
@@yaboimax6356 I agree with you, but when it comes to consumer interest stories they can actually do a decent job, when it comes to other things not so much. Especially their own leaders and gov't, agreed 1000%.
I thought Canada was a nice place to live
Those people need to say 'sorry'.. Ok I'm sorry that was bad..
wwemario12345 I m surpassed.. I thought Canada' health system is one of the best. In India, we have worst health system in the world probably but ambulance is free.
You're right
Dorothy thought Kansas was too.
India has one of the best doctors and fee is low, an unexpected benefit of huge population and huge number of graduates.
I thought the point of our national health care system is so people DID NOT have to worry about bills when they need medical help!!!
Well we need to have a beef with our insurance then and stand up for our rights, we pay them and they make profit if something doesn’t happen so if something does they need to cover us
1500 a ride, no thanks I will walk!
+tom gunnah 1500 is a steal. An ambulance helicopter ride is $5,000 with no exception, you must pay the full amount.
+Jackie chan_WTF o.o The price will send me into a coma, good luck collecting after that!
3,000 for a trip there and back?
Walking is a tini bit cheaper
+Jackie chan_WTF Medical flights are often in excess of $25,000, so $5,000 sounds like a bargain. lol
$325 for an ambulance is ridiculous cheap compared to the rides in the U.S.
They charge an easy $700 but the average is roughly around over 1k.
They charge $325 plus $2.4 a kilometer which is less than a mile.
@@sivkld okay but the fact that it's free in some places makes it expensive
Now you can call lyft or uber so you won't get rob by the ambulances services!
FREE HEALTHCARE.*
*-terms and conditions apply.ambulance not included.
My first ever hospital stay started at a med center which sent me via ambulance to hospital. 5 mile ride and a $1200.00 bill for the ride... I am in US.
Oh... I had pneumonia... Not a heart attack or anything requiring life saving care during the ride. Update: Looking back on the bill, my ambulance ride was actually $1875.00, the $1200.00 is what I owed after insurance paid $675.00. I understand these services aren't free, but neither should they take gross advantage of the ill.
Yup. My last ambulance ride - $1200 in Westchester, NY
Ray R my brother went in a car crash with 3 friends and one of then had to go in a helcopter and he ended dying because it took like 3 hours and his mom had to pay like 8000
It blows my mind when I see what Americans have to pay for health care. My niece married very well off, good thing she did. Certain illnesses can cost u thousands of $'s. Medications they can run a couple of grand also. Luckily they can afford to pay these prices but what about those that cannot. What happens to them? Supposed to be the greatest nation yet has no free health care system. I guess many, many people do not go to a hospital or dr., they cannot afford to and I am positive a lot of people have died due to lack of money.
+Chloe wilson. Well, welcome to the land of the free... What a joke. I avoid and haven't been to a doctor in several years because of the costs, yet I pay $100 from my paycheck (and my employer pays around $100 also) each week for premiums!! $200 per week to Blue Cross and still, with my copays and percentage of medical bills due you may as well say I have no insurance,. Instead, I help to make the insurance company wealthy. It is nothing short of legalized racketeering for those who work in the USA.
Oh lord I can’t even imagine that mother if she lived in the USA 😖
It Will Be Higher Prices
it should be free with obamacare right?
I hope I never need medical help in Canada .
our "free healthcare" is like a free brake inspection... guess what, you need brakes and it's gonna cost.... all roads lead to Rome
Murica
It's even worse in the U.S. I'm proof.
Wade Wright is very good the problem ppl used to abused calling the ambulance x nothing we have all free x hospital and everthing some people I saw ppl calling the ambulance x nothing they abused the system
THIS IS NOT JUST IN CANADA, they got these ideas from America!
Luckyly in Finland ambulance ride is free. Two years ago when my grandad had a heart attack I had to use ambulance and he survived.
SillyCanadians... they pay taxes for socialized medicine AND THEN they need to pay the full-cost as individuals, also.
Agree with you. Actually all over Europe you don't have to pay ANYTHING because it's covered by taxes. In (North) America they pay (lower) taxes, but they get nothing more than EXTRA-BILLS!
Despite the fact that Italy is a s*itty Country for many things, you cannot blame Italian public healthcare. The exception is some part of the south...
@kirk mcloren sorry, my bad
Man I’m living in the US. I work as an ED nurse and have heard stories like this. Some ambulances here cost $2500 a ride.
I thought Canada was a scam-free, friendly, and nice country... I guess i was wrong 😔
this show was made just to show the bad of canada lol
Its just pushing away tourists who see this then.
That's rubbish. Most of the problems affecting Canada affect everyone else. It's not going to deter tourism.
Travis Williamson huh... good point 👌
They aren't perfect. It's not a horrible country by any means, but they aren't this perfect society that people think Canada is.
I was charged 800 dollars for a ride that was 1.5 miles away.
Taxi is cheaper
+Isobel Victoria ya
I was charged 2500 for like 2 block ride
If I need a ambulance i'll call uber they have a much quicker response time nearly 5 minutes if not more difference and I don't need to call so I save more time.
I paid $1012 for a 3 mile trip.
Took me over a year and a half to pay it off.
Thanks God Ambulance, Doctors and Hospitals are for free in Denmark, i can call as many time i whant, and i can go and drive as many time as i wish it do not cost me 1 penny, we all pay Tax in Denmark, and the Tax cover this kind of things, some need to use it offen some never use it, but dossentt matter if you use it alot or a littel it's still for free for enyone there use it in Denmark.
It's not really free. You realize that don't you?
@@goldwinger5434 its paid for in taxes. Better than a massive unaffordable bill in the mail.
UN have for many years nominated Denmark as the happiest nation on the planet regardless of their highest tax rate, one of their arguments is that nobody worries if they are able to pay their hospital bill the day they get sick, as it is already been paid for through the taxes.
Gold Winger, true.. but the richest and the poor get sick and it’s all about contributing so we all get well. Do you only care about your self?
Good thing you dont have to pay for ambulances .....and your money can go towards education cause your spelling is terrible!!
The reason a patient needs to be transferred to another hospital is because the hospital they are at is cannot provide sufficient care. Taxes are paid to the government to provide medical care to Canadians. If that hospital cannot provide sufficient care, it is up to the government to provide that care, regardless of cost. Therefore, if a patient needs to be transferred to another hospital to be given sufficient care, that needs to be provided at no cost. I think this is more a problem of interpretation of the legislation. Maybe our government needs to read their own legislation closer!
Hunter Guindon Ya, that is just rediculous!
I am fine with the 45$ fee, though I do think it should be waived for low-income families. I'm happy I live in Ontario for this one.
Ontarian (from Ontario) like yourself. I thank my lucky stars as well.
Ontario New South Wales And New York Charges Per Mile
Wow... there actually IS a benefit to living in Ontario!
Ontario New South Wales And New York Are Horrible States In Provinces To Live
Ontario Canada 🇨🇦 New South Wales Australia 🇦🇺
Hiw can Canada and the US get away with this? In the UK anything medical related with ambulances and hospital treatment is free.Youd think when the US spends around 500 billion on millitary they could use some of that for medical issues.
+Henning Bjornessen At least we don't hold the denstest at gunpoint and demand to be at the front of the que. And yes there may be waiting times, but that's because we are considerate and accept that others need attention too, after all that's the whole point in a waiting time. The NHS has a better quality service in all anyway and you don't have to pay a single penny, not one (for the potentially huge bill you could rack up)(excluding tax ect) meanwhile if you needed mountian rescue or an air ambulance and a couple of ambulance trips, coupled with medicines, you'd need to sell your house in 'MURICA'!!!! YEE HAA. So there you go.
+Stan Kleppetvsfriend I can't be arsed arguing on YT, but for your information I'm currently living in a house that's £555,000 which has a front and rear garden. we also have a holiday cottage with a quarter acre of grounds. only some reside in council housing. Go and spend your day and argue with another person you don't know.
But would you invade us?
The BlueBearDuck I live in the United States, and yes our millitary is big, but the real reason is how long politicians have been arguing about how to n pay that money, rather then how insurance companies demand big discounts. that then causes hospitals to inflate the prices so much so insurance companies can then make it reasonable. there's an Adam ruins everything on it, you'll find it by looking it up
In the US you don't have to pay to ride in an ambulance lol
I was like whoa 325$ is cheap! But then they showed the $1500.00 .. That's how much ambulances are in USA
mine is 0 but cool story
That lady was cold as ice. So heartless. I would vote her out in 0 seconds flat....
As a Canadian...we are one of the high taxed country in the world and this is what we get !!
ikr
Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. Here in Australia if you earn over 110000 AUD you get taxed 45%!!!!!!!
+LovePeaceAntiFanatic america is way worse they forced me into an ambulance and charged my mom 5000 dollars for the ride and lke 8000 dollars for cat scan without any signature of my mom or mine.
+LovePeaceAntiFanatic As a Moroccan we pay high taxes for no reason !!! lol firefighters have to be payed and ambulances too also hospitals !! and at the end you get shity service and in most cases ambulance appear after patient dies !!
+LovePeaceAntiFanatic Well maybe now that Harper is gone we can stop wasting money on wars and stop giving money to 1%ers.
they got it cheap. her in America it's $900 up to $1300 .
Armando Sanchez
But think about Canada's economy, with the middle east stealing all the oil sales, and all the people being laid off and businesses going out of business because of rental costs for the buildings and stuff like that.
This was set in America. You just mean “here in the United States”
@@GalileoFigar0 😂😂😂 this her murica the USA is tha only thang imma call murica. Thabkyer sir for yer correction but no thankyer.
Again, no charge for me here in america... stop thinking you are everything...
Australia is $972 for an ambulance trip.
I get like 15 bucks a trip for gas or whatever but$ 300+ is too much
I could not believe that Canadian government can be that greedy.
Free healthcare
+ExperimentX well "free" healthcare
Well.. If it is free, why she needs to pay this charge ?
+fellow111411 your guys ambulance trips are pretty cheap compared to us and our medical bills
+ExperimentX it's basically the same cost
give or take a 100 dollars depending on location
$45 seems like a relatively reasonable cost (in Ontario where i live). But over $500? Wtf!?
***** yeah, even on minimal wage, (11 $ an hour) thats easier hell alot easier than 500+
***** We pay enough taxes in Ontario. We should only be billed for non emergency situations.
seeya205 we will see where this next election goes than the issues we are facing
***** in South Australia it costs $950 flat fee if you don't have ambulance cover. ambulance cover costs $90. now that's bullshit
***** daamn i wish we could only pay $45 here in the US
Payment plans, Visa or MasterCard...WOW!!!
it brake my heart more and more when I watch Marketplace. Sometimes, the truth is hard to listen :(
THANKS A LOT FOR EDUCATING US!
Don't stop. If everyone knew the truth, politicians and corrupt corporations wouldn't get away with the stuff they do.
I got into accident and got billed for 3mins ride on ambulance for few hundred bucks, Toronto
Are you a resident of Ontario? If you are and have a health card, the fee is $45.
Ever taken a taxi? In most places, 5 miles costs at minimum, $25 dollars. Thats without a medical practitioner available. Take an Uber for the same trip, oh that's just $45 to $80 dollars depending on the day of the week or time of day.
When i drove taxi it was common to have people call us for medical emergencies rather than call for an ambulance. Part of the reason was because when they centrally dispatch, people thought it was easier & faster to call a local taxi because they would get there faster due to having a better knowledge of the local roads , etc. They also believed that if they said it was a medical emergency they thought it would get them the first availible taxi, but in some places it doesn't. I went to a senior's house for a medical once (she had frequent falls), the ambulance office/dispatch/hall was literally 7 doors down, but because she fell so often & even had the call alert necklace, they REFUSED to answer her calls for help! It took 3 of us to get her off her floor & we got in touch with her family, her church & the mayor's office and managed to get her situation fixed. The ambulance people were slammed by the mayor & council and almost lost their contract over it.
Ha, complaining about the ambulance bill. Right now I'm $6,000 in debt for a 3 day stay in the hospital. A few years back I broke my shoulder, saw the doctor for 5 minutes, got a single xray, a sling and 2 weeks of weak painkillers, $1500.
$350 Canadian is only ~$250 US
You pay less taxes dumbass... It's all ads ups! I'm a full-time student and a part-time bank employee and I still pay 20% in income tax. Imagine a full-time worker with kids.
My point is it all ads up... My last paycheck I payed 28.9% of tax due to working overtime and my next paycheck I'm probably going to be taxed even more due to my quarterly bonus and working full hours (37.5) during my winter break. in the states the it's as low as 5%
I got 14k bill for a one and a half day stay and they didn't even figure out was wrong with me.
I live in the US, and I have told all the people I live with to NEVER call me an ambulance. Unfortunately, the US also has that 'Good Samaratin' law...
No free ride XD sounds like they never been to the UK.
haloharry97 socialized medicine is NOT free:
@@robertthompson5352 no, but at least, solidarity kicks in. But feel free if you prefer the wild west and social Darwinism. Survival of the fattest cat.
300 dollars for a ambulance ride? thats not bad considering the US 500-700 dollar tag.
Debra Jordan breaks my heart!!! God bless her!!
Oh I know, eh?! That was heart wrenching, but her statement hit the nail right on the head, "this is where free healthcare was born", the irony.
I’am from Minnesota in the United States and I’ve both had to call an ambulance and pay the $2000.00 fee as well as have taken my EMS Course and been apart of the crew being paid $13.00/Hour to save lives. It’s an incredibly broken system.
I refused an ambulance in Alberta and still got a bill.
+Anna Mae Alexander In SOME parts of the US the county paid paramedics send you a bill when you did not call and refused care from them. They charge you because you live in another county.
Straight robbery.
Alberta Tasmania And Florida
I was sick and had a fever once. At 2 or 3am I was hallucinating and I was trying to wake my girlfriend up who was lying beside me but I couldn't get words out.. She eventually woke up and felt me, I was REALLY hot to touch but she was scared to call 911 because she didn't know what we would have to pay
So she called her grandma to ask her what to do, then she called my mom who drove an hour to our place.. It took ice packs and lots of water but I cooled off, it was really scary.. I should have gone to the hospital that night but the uncertainty on the ambulance fee put doubt in my girlfriends mind on if she should call or not...
If I was able to think clearly I would have told her to call 911 for sure, but I couldn't talk so I couldnt tell her that I was not ok
Idiots are ruining our healthcare system.. The people who call 911 for non emergencies are the same people who clog the emergency rooms because they have a headahe, or because their kid is sick.. Go to a clinic in the morning!!
6 hour waits in emergency rooms from these idiot people.. Is it immigrants who don't know an emergency room isn't a replacement for a family doctor?
I don't get it
My impression is that this ambulance fee was meant as a deterrent, to make sure people who call for an ambulance are actually in an emergency.. In my experience though what the fee does is put doubt in a persons mind right before they call 911.. Someone who 100% should call 911 is only 90% sure, or if they're really poor maybe 50% sure.. that's not productive for the health of people
If anybody has any type of problem that needs to be taken care of a doctor then anyone including people with headaches can go to an emergency room just not dial 911 unless it's a real emergency like someone bleeding to death. I had to take my mom to the hospital because of a bad headache thank god I did cause it was a dangerous thing they had to put medications thru her veins..1 week later I had to rush to the hospital cuase she was/was almost having a heart attack. So don't come saying to not go to an emergency center if u have something simple...WHY? Cause small things can cause big things.
Claroboy911 A lot of people go to the emergency room for things that a walk in clinic can handle..
Dee Jay so? If the emergency room can handle it and they wanna pay for the bill or are covered who are you to say where they should go? It would be the hospitals fault for not giving priority to what needs to be given priority. Idk how it works where u live but here where I live hospitals aren't slow unless u have something really easy in a busy day
Claroboy911 Where I live, and where lots of people live, the emergency room wait is hours.
I've waited 6 hours to see a doctor before, and that's not unusual here (B.C.)
Dee Jay oh okay
In USA I have been in an ambulance about a few times each one about $500 or more
In My Town It’s $14,000
Yeah it was about $800 for my dad one time. Never again.
In the UK, ambulances are free everywhere.
alistair6101 And violated during weekends by Drunk buffoons.... UK should introduce a massive fine if you use the Ambulance for drunken incidences.
alistair6101
That's another liberal myth, there's no such thing as free healthcare.
KiloByte69 Oh, shut up. At least people who can't afford the ambulances are still getting the care they deserve. Yeah, it's paid by taxes, but so what? Would you rather pay a smaller tax or pay an ambulance out of pocket?
Jorge Padua
First of all, everyone who needs an ambulance gets one, you dimwit. And like any taxpayer funded service it gets abused by lazy deadbeats who don't have a medical emergency. Furthermore, I'd rather pay for the services that I need. Socializing healthcare is forces the healthy to subsidize the costs generated by everyone else, including people who don't take good care of themselves. So no, it wouldn't be "smaller".
KiloByte69 That is true but there is a think called cheaper healthcare and that's called universal healthcare.
I am appalled and disgusted at the fact that the Canadian Government has outrageous ambulance fees. I am also appalled and disgusted that if a Canadian needs emergency care they need to pay for ambulance fees. I believe that healthcare is a right that everyone should have access too and that includes emergency services. Healthcare should not be used as a tool to make money off of vulnerable people in their time of need.
Also the conversation with the Executive Director, Debra, is very insincere and a waste of time as she clearly does not seem.... I will actually say is not concerned with the ambulance fees. Basically, all she says is oh well, that's the way it is, which is disgusting. I can make the statement that it is "UnCanadian" of her, however it goes beyond being "UnCanadian" it is just having basic human dignity and this applies to all politicians and people in power to make the decision to eliminate the cost of ambulance fees.
I was also in shock hearing the answer from Debra that there is no interest in changing ambulance fees. It causes me to shake my head and wonder about the people who make these types of decisions.
Same with America. I was less than 8 hours from dying. My liver and kidneys were failing and had to be transferred to a different hospital. It was a 25 minute ride and it was 2,200 dollars. The hospital bill in all was $250,000. Our insurance pay for most of it though
That's expensive, worth it to live, but still. Does a person need to make the choice, Get gouged in the bank and go to the hospital and spend a long time paying back the bills or risk/play Russian roulette with their life or their child's, family members or anyone else's life?
most of it? how much did you have to pay?
Csr Hrm 6,500 dollars
AtoMiC M0nkies ohhhhh, that's a lot, thank God you could afford that
One more thing... This woman is a good reporter. She gets to the truth and she knows how to confront someone's bullcrap. This is true journalism, celebrity news Americans are so enamored with
Sounds like free health care isnt that free
Nothing is ever free.
its not free health care its affordable healthcare... Half my paycheck goes to taxes and on whats left im taxed 25% on everything i buy and after all that the healthcare system still struggles keeping costs low enough to be sustainable. With the massive amount of people retiring soon combined with longer life expectancy the system will collapse soon.
@@TheSpeedula there is free air in gas stations
@@Wehra96 that does not sound like free healthcare, more like pay us for the illusion of free healthcare
@@Juan-ng7rs nothing in life is free its just socialist health care.
I got charged 3,200 USD for a 4.5 mile ambulance bill
$1.9k for 10 miles in GA - No fees for medicines or bandages (this was just for anaphylaxis)
I got a 1,000 bill partially cover by insurance. Let’s just say Phoenix is not too happy lol.
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My Aunt Got Charged $500 AUD 10 Mile Ambulance Bill In NSW Australia 🇦🇺
@@furtim1 I went into anaphylaxis during a drs appt and was taken by ambulance across the street from one campus to the er on another...$1600 in the usa... luckily my insurance paid most of it
After watching so many of these marketplace videos, this is starting to make me glad I live in the US.
Nah the USA is the exact same
10:16 That bill should say Suprise, not "Sunrise".
Here in the US (at least where I live), a single ambulance ride can cost you $2000. It just shows how screwed up the situation is in the US as well.
No emergency services should cost anything, even in the US. It broke my heart and made me cry to learn this Mom's daughter ended up dying. I'm so sorry.
That would be nice, but EMTs and doctors don't work for free, nor should they.
The person is dead & they are trying to collect on a ambulance ride, let them bill the person that took the ride.
Ken Sugalski Amen.
well not to compare humans to pizza, but if my pizza doesn't arrive at my house "acceptable". in this case the patient being "alive", i don't take the pizza, and i don't give them money
Ok, so it's HER bill. She's dead so you have to drop the bill.
+Hörður Heimisson i dont think thats how it works
Hörður Heimisson I wonder how headache he had hospital bill and the funeral or dead bill
Hörður Heimisson unfortunately when your spouse dies, you take on their debt. At least in the U.S. that is. I’m not 100% sure but I believe your children take on the debt too, but I think I’m 100% wrong. So don’t quote me.
Nope, Your only responsible for your spouse's bills and your children's bills that are under 18 in the U.S.A. Trust me, my ex's mother died and he had just turned 18. Hospital TRIED to say he was responsible as her son for her bills. I told him no way. I called a lawyer because those shisters were pressuring him. The only thing he did pay for was to cremate her. Her sister had died two mos before so cemetery tried to say he had to pay his mom's sister's burial bill his poor mom was still making payments on her sister's burial when she herself died. He could not. So he could not bury his mother's urn. So he has it on his bookshelf today and he is just fine with that. God bless.
can you file a divorce to avoid that bill?
Victim: Help! I was stabbed!
Ambulance: u got that gas money?
In Ontario, people do use it as a taxi. People call get brought to the hospital then walk out and head to there friends house. the Nurses at the London hospital are completely shocked by it. In a lot of cases if a person who took an ambulance to the hospital and has no one to pick them up, the hospital pays for a cab! One nurse I spoke with used to work in the USA and claims in most cases their medical ways are far superior to ours.
Even in India its totally free.Just call 102.
Bit of a difference in training and equipment between India and developed countries. But, you're right-health care should be free no matter what country your in. I can understand places like Papua New Guinea, a country where some police stations have such a low budget, they ask for fuel money before coming to you. But the US is doing no favours to the average American when it comes to health care access.
Ashutosh Yadav Well. That speaks stunning volumes. Oh Canada.
*brags about India*
Buddy its 108 not 102 and covers only 22 states in India and not all 29. I doubt the penetration of this service to villages.
Yeah and you have to ride in a cart with the chickens who peck at your feet the whole way!
I live in Florida and am still paying off an $800 ambulance bill. The doctor gave my 2 year old daughter the wrong medication in the breathing machine and then freaked out and called an ambulance. She was ok but the EMT said there really was no need for the ambulance after she was taken. He’s the one who also informed me that the doctor should not have given that medication to her. And It’s crazy to have to pay that much when we have pretty good insurance through my husband’s job.
"Your payment would be appreciated."
I'm sure it would.
In the UK you can call 999 ambulance for FREE
yes and no. if you call on a non emergency you might get charge for the call out. but yea the uk has a better health system then the usa.
North America
+stephen mears you get charged £5,000 if it crashes for a false one
in Argentina the ambulances are cover by the state, unless you have a private emergency companie coverage, last year a friend crash his face in a bike accident, public hospital cover the titanium prostesis and reconstructive surgery, dont cost anything.
sometimes i wonder what some people call "Third world"
+rod 1. Argie DEFAULTED on their currency, so you parasites aren't even paying for 100% of your healthcare or ANY other of your govt systems.
2. Your PRIVATE hospitals are decent, but the PUBLIC sector ("free") is as broken as the rest of LatAmer nations:
Frankly, I think the best option is for the hospital to take into account the income of the family. This also includes looking at age, how many times this particular person has traveled by ambulance to the hospital, as well as how critical an emergency was. Taking all this into account, ambulance fees should be adjusted accordingly. I understand that money is needed to provide services like this, but charges should only apply to those who are able to pay to help provide ambulance service to those who may not be able to afford it
142$ in Nova Scotia? Bullshit. MSI had no problem charging just under 600$ for the last ambulance ride my daughter took when she passed away. I didn't feel a bit guilty tearing that bill up either. If NS can afford to make ambulances free (within the last few months, low income only I think) than every other province should be able to handle it, if only for the fixed and low income families and individuals.
Jesiah Mac Sorry to hear about your loss. Screw these bastards with their bills during situations like that.
Jesiah Mac You should only pay if you call for non emergency situations, low income or not. You get billed for losing your child! NICE!
Jesiah Mac Fuck yeah, its free here :D
But hell no, people don't take ambulances as free taxis, if u call ambulance to be a taxi, you break law and that if something WILL be HUGE ticket.
This is why I'm glad I live in the UK. Good old NHS.
We pay via taxes.
Same. And yet people STILL bloody complain.
+Michelle .H I'm glad I live in the US where it's my responsibility to pay for my medical bills
+optimusmikey And poor people struggle to pay medical bills and often are scared to see the doctor for financial reasons
+optimusmikey Have you ever needed to use an Ambulance? Because I have. Me, my dad and my grandpa have all had to call out an ambulance on more than one occasion for each of us. With all 3 of us, it is serious stuff in talking about. But none of us would be here if we didn't have the ambulance service. I am glad it comes out of taxes. I think nearly everyone who says it should be people's own responsibilities to pay for medical fees (from start to finish) have never needed to use the service. I honestly don't know where this family would be if we didn't have free healthcare. We are looked after so well in this country with regards to healthcare. Yes, there are flaws. But there always will be in any system, free or not.
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I do pay for my medical bills. I pay for them every time I pay my taxes to the Government. We even have to pay for our medicines at chemists. My taxes also help to pay for the not so well-off so no one in this county goes without any medical help.
I am soo glad i live in the UK
Free health service
Recently broke my hand but didnt have to pay a single penny
Hamzah Rassul it’s the same in canada. this video is only about ambulance fee’s which are actually still fairly cheap. It’s only $45 here in ontario where i live and where most canadians live. i feel bad for the other provinces but even compared to america it’s cheap. nonetheless your point about not paying in the hospital is the same as here.
@@Thedarthjosh1 ok, we have no ambulance fees.
But i feel sorry for some americans who have to pay more than $600 for a brake
We have employment insurance through that we can pay
Hamzah Rassul The ambulance is free. But how long does it take for it to come? I have a friend who lost his eye because the envelope in the suburbs ofLondon arrived two hours after his call
Australia 🇦🇺 Too
45$ thank god for ontario
God bless canada but i think the rest of the country should be more like us
My grand daughter has the same condition and my daughter went threw the exact situation and the bills piled up fast and on a fixed income cuz both parents had to stay home and give her 24 -7 care plenty of times they had to get someone to drive them all hours of the day or night to emergency to avoid the bills now she passed away 1 month ago but the bills are still haunting them as well as other costs
John Pirie that is so sad. You should do a gofundme page for them. Some ppl dont give because of so many scamers but some ppl do. And at this point I bet even $50 would be appreciated by them
If she would setup a go fund me page (for the ambulance rides for Sarah Buss daughter, not sure how to spell her name) I would gladly help, and share for more help!!!!!
Richard Downer she’s dead
THATS NOT THE POINT. people are getting robbed.
wow way to drop that bomb shell at 17:54.....
Uncletaco supreme and no emotion watching the poor girl cry
I'm glad it's not paid for by the government. You need to use it? You pay for it. I've driven myself to the hospital before, to save money on an ambulance. People need to be responsible for their own situations.
OMG...Canadian pay such low prices on their medical care. Even for ambulance that is still cheap compare to USA. If they have to pay what we pay here in the state ranging from $1000 up per ride then they should feel lucky still cheap service there.
Mine is 0 but keep saying "usa" like its all over...
Christine Heath y
In us you have 2 time income and you are free to chose....
Here is take it or leave it....!!!!
@@mariomehr tell us whats free? this is the most corrupt country on the earth. give me a break
Canadians pay more in taxes then Americans! nothing is free!
this is ridiculous. the purpose of having a universal health care is to help people. You cant just charge people for needing help. there needs to be a change!
Yes it does! i was shocked with the thousands of dollars those two people had to pay,.
I hope in the very close future its changed and quickly. This has to stop NOW.
We do not have Universal Health Care, and never have. We have Universal ACCESS to emergency health care. In many provinces, medications are not covered, nor are any preventative treatments. You break a leg, you get a cast, but not physiotherapy. Our healthcare system is not set up to make people healthy, but to generate money for pharmaceutical companies by treating illness instead of preventing it.
You're right, but at least this is better to have access. I forgot that sometimes some people dont have personal health care coverage, other than the provincial one that we all have. I am personally lucky to have a personal health coverage from my job that practically covers most things. I have used the EMS before, and only had to pay 5 dollars- the rest my own health insurance took care of the rest.
but there still needs to be changes to our system.
See my top comment. Not universal care.
Ambulance ride here in Albany Oregon, it's $1,200.00 or more.
I am going to give everyone here a secret that the ambulance companies DONT want you to know. you DON'"T have to pay the ambulance bill. 99% of the time the company will send you a bill, don't pay it, they will send you another bill, don't pay that one either and that should be the last you hear from the ambulance company because legally they have to respond to your call for help and cant ignore you because you have not paid them. if they do the open themselves up to a huge lawsuit. so you don't have to pay them and they will still respond to you.
True but you will face hefty fines for not paying.
if your ambulance company is run from your local fire station like mine is then there is nothing they can do and they even told us so. I work with a guy who was a paramedic for 20+ years and I go to the fire station every Tuesday night. they told me if you don't pay the first bill they will send a second and if you don't pay that bill you will never here from them again about the bill.
While it is true that they will respond to you regardless of ability to pay, they can just send bills to collections and collection agencies will take shits on your credit report
all of these ideas on how they get their money always depends on where you live but most of the time they will not send the bill to a collection agency because like the people said in this video, not being able to pay should not be a factor in weather or not to call an ambulance. then I guess someone will find a way to sue the ambulance company because a person they loved died because they were afraid to call an ambulance because of the bill.
money is always more important, yes (slaps people in the head) no family is always more important and if you read my comments again carefully you will see I am just telling people how they can save some money so they can do more things with their families.
Dave should just refuse to pay. Stop acknowledging the bills.
Then what, get arrested!
+Superpotatogaming 123 its cool to get arrested, its either get arrested and live in jail, or be homeless
You don't get arrested for not paying a bill, but like Quoc Le says, so what if he gets arrested? At least in jail he'll receive excellent medical coverage for FREE!
Jaron Branham One would think so, but I do know people who have filed bankruptcy and they still get tons of credit card offers, etc., and surprisingly the rates aren't that much different that the ones offered to people with good credit. But, you're right, home loans become difficult. That being said, the guy is probably not going to be trying to get home loans. He's in his "golden" years. For him, bankruptcy wouldn't be detrimental.
hell get arrested get free Healthcare and doctors there 24/7 plus free living
In the US, I know someone who was denied an insurance claim for an ambulance ride because it was not preapproved. Not sure how or when that was supposed to get preapproved.
in our county in pennsylvania if you make a yearly donation to the rescue squad you don't get charged
This makes me so mad!!!! I am so glad I live in Germany with a good healthcare system.... there should be no charge for an emergency - period!!!!!
I agree the money goes to the ceos at hospital!
Watching this video on marketplace Broke my heart 😢
wtf $500??
I got a bill one time for $45 and I thought that was ridiculous
Always nice to see when the United States and Canada have so much in common.
United States 🇺🇸 Canada 🇨🇦 And Australia 🇦🇺
I was a visitor to Canada when I felt unwell. My host took me to a clinic which I had to pay for. I collapsed whilst I was with the doctor, an ambulance was summoned but I have been told my host had to go through my pockets to find a credit card. The cost was taken from my card BEFORE I was transported (unconscious) to the local hospital. My insurance co. wouldn't pay, but that does not surprise me.
Yep. Your not able to make the medical decision. So someone else can do it for you since you were unable to respond
Paying for an Ambulance? That's fucked up.
You all need an NHS.
kernowcraze if a ground ambulance is 10 expensive than a taxi I wonder how much is ambulance helicopter ride
What happened to Canada's crib to grave health care that everyone says is thousands of times better than the health care we had here in the states?
Google "two tier Canada": the PRIVATE sector system is great, if you can afford it. The PUBLIC sector (socialized/socialist) system is actually worse (in terms of Surgical Outcomes, etc) than some of the Banana Republics like Costa Rica and rightwing Panama/Chile "private hospitals" give. In every nation which allows the "two tiers" to compete, the public sector/socialized system gives worse Surgical Outcomes, etc, than the PRIVATE (capitalist) sector, consistently.
bullshit, in Argentina the public health sistem works great, in fact we have cases of people coming from US and other europeans countrys to receive treatment, almost for free.