How to wire arcade pushbuttons and microswitches
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2016
- UPDATED VIDEO HERE: • Arcade Buttons 101
www.retroactivearcade.ca A simple explanation on how to wire arcade push buttons and Button LEDs
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Dude, why are you the only one covering all of this clearly? TY!!
Thank you so much. Your videos and infographics on the site have been very helpful for a newbie like myself.
Your videos always informative. You know your stuff
Thanks for a helpful demo and clear explanation
i have the microswitch style buttons in my cab currently but would like to put in the sanwa buttons as a replacement. What would i need for that to work? Thanks
Thanks, really helped me out with wiring.
QUESTION: on a USB encoder what happen if i invert wire to NO and GND?
Thank you for keeping it simple.
Question which one plugs to the buttons top or bottom on the micro switch you say top but you're holding onto the bottom one for the coin
Big thank you, I learned a lot from this video
Benjamin Pinnock glad to be some help!
Good stuff I needed this ;)
great info ill be ordering soon!
do i get the 12v from the arcade power supply?
Yes, 12v has to be supplied from somewhere else, eg. Arcade power supply.
Great video! I just ordered some led buttons...so I'm gonna need one of those harnesses.
Thanks for the info!
Thank you very much, sorry for the late reply.
Retro Active Arcade Ltd.™ No worries.
You make great videos and give good info.
Cheers!
Thank you so much! Lifesaver!
So on a four player cab with an extra 4way joy stick cut would I daisy chain it to player one ????
Hi there, great video. Sorry for the noob question, but it sounds like for any led button you do have to have a seperate cable/harness? My setup I'm working on I have 2 led buttons to represent the coin buttons and was wondering what to hook up to make the Led work.
Hi Mike, First be sure to know what voltage of LED you have, it will be 5V or 12V. Usually they are 12V unless they are Sanwa (clones as well) or RGB buttons. You can daisy chain the positive power from your power supply to both buttons (power side) as well as the ground (negative side). If you do not have a power supply to go off of or splice in to, you can use an old power charger from a cell phone or something as long as it has the right voltage. If your voltage is too high it will burn out the LED right away, if it is too low it will glow very dim and it will drastically shorten the life expectancy of your LED!
@retroactivearcade Can you please list what the green yellow and red buttons are? (2nd from your right my left.. next to the Suzo Happ buttons. You show a close up from 2:12-2:30) They look translucent
They are LED pushbuttons, 12V lamps. There is also translucent Sanwa Buttons for fight sticks there as well, but they look the same in the video.
Sending you a PM
Hey man! Good stuff....I always check here for product info! Question, I'm reworking a Stern Scramble cocktail cab....the CPs are really shallow from leaf buttons. Does Sanwa only come in 24mm and 30mm? The deep shaft Happ buttons won't fit, and Sanwa I would have to cut. Is there no short stem 28mm buttons available? If not...I may have to contact someone in China and setup shop! I prefer the Happ, but the Sanwa connection.
Hey Scotty, Yes Sanwa only makes the 2 sizes of buttons but there is a hybrid option available on our website. It is a 28mm american style HAPP pushbutton with a Sanwa grade microswitch that is halfway in length between the traditional HAPP buttons and the Sanwa buttons. Direct link to product listed below: retroactivearcade.ca/pushbuttons/concave/
The best video about the subject. Can I use this in a retropie build? Sorry if this is a dumb question, I am making my first one.
Peter Reynold Robinson Junior hi, yes you can use anything with a micoswitch for your retro pie build. If you are setting up for a 2 player arcade make sure to use an ipac 2 for your encoder. I have another video on arcade encoders you should watch as well.
You actually answered my question with the sanwa buttons as far as the positive and negative aspect... but i am having an issue with a modded mayflash f300 that i have swapped buttons on. I have swapped 6 and left 2 as originals, and i now run into an issue on ps4 where all inputs stop about 10 mins in... might u know what is happening?
Instant Transmission Gaming are you using a brooks converter? If you are you may have an old one that times out every 8 min, you can plug it into your computer and download an update for it on the brooks website to fix it.
Retro Active Arcade I am!! Amazing i thought that might be the problem but that had worked fine until the buttons... I'll do that today, appreciate the help👍🏽
Retro Active Arcade Yup! Works great and the new buttons i put in can finally get a good workout. Thansk for the help and for responding so quickly✌🏾
Awesome! Glad I could help.
Do you know who manufactured the microswitch on the arcade button?
At 5:05 you state that the connector at the top can be used to wire two buttons to do that same thing. On the switches I use this is not the case. The NC and NO represent Normally Closed and Normally Open. The NO tab in the middle is what closes the circuit when you hit the button. The NC would be like holding down the button when you are not and when you click it the button would briefly stop. To wire two buttons to trigger the same action just join a wire to the second button off of the second tab just like the ground wires are doing. Chain off of the same wire back to the control board. Perhaps your switches are different but it might be worth saying that if your switch has NC written on it, chain off the same wire that goes to NO.
So ultimarc goldleaf buttons with an ipac4 can't be mapped to multiple buttons of the same keystroke ?? Such as if you have a separate 4 way controller; or spinners with buttons to match player 1's setup. Or if it's a coin button yet you have coin door's. Talking the standard ultimarc. Goldleaf buttons here. Almost to the wiring part of my build. I have an Ipac 4 and a Ipac ultimate. I got some stuff from you and some from ultimarc :)
Forgive me if I am answering you wrong but your question is a bit confusing. You can map as many buttons to the same key stroke/input on and ipac or I/O you want you just have to do it right. The gold leaf buttons (we call them fusion buttons on our website) only have an open or closed position so you can connect the ground like you would along the daisy chain. As for the action wires can be daisy chained but should be directly connected to the input on the ipac. The I/O will not allow for this so you will have to daisy chain them. The only negative to this scenario is that all connections will be live at all times as in: both joysticks will be active so if your buddy moves the other one while playing it will mess you up. The only issue double wiring buttons comes with microswitch connections. One has to be connected to the open side and the other has to be connected to the closed so the circuit completes properly when pressed. Hope this answers your question.
@@RetroactivearcadeCa Oh perfect answer Casey, thanks so much. Despite my confusion question ;) you cleared everything up nicely. Yeah I plan on using the iPac4 on this 4 player build, but happen to get both. Im having so much fun, I'll likely do another build at some point. lol.
Hi have table arcade need to connect coin mechanism have pcb phot from insie any advice please
Can you go into more detail about how to dasiy wire buttons, like putting side buttons on a cabinet for pinball action that share directions with primary buttons?
They can share the daisy chain ground but you will have double wire or daisy chain the button action wire separately if that makes sense? Basically split the the lead wire to each button, in mame both buttons are connected the same, just take note that with jamma your primary button connection is normal but your secondary connection is on the microswitche's open connector (the third
"usually" unused connection)
Watch my coin door video that explains having a coin button and coin door set up, they are basically the same.
@@RetroactivearcadeCa I bought the 60 in 1 PCB, and the corresponding 2 person kit from your company, would I need to buy additional wires to perform those daisy wire connections to side switches for the pinball style buttons?
hey i got the suzohapp push buttons but it didnt come with any cords and I cant seem to find it anywhere about how to hook it up. Any ideas on where i can find the cords?
Are you using Jamma or Mame? If you are using Jamma you will need a "Jamma Harness" , if you are using Mame, you will have to wire them to the arcade encoder on your own with individual wires you have to make or you can buy single 1 meter wires with .187 connectors from us if you like.
I'm buying a relatively cheap USB encoder board, it comes with two wires. Red and black. Would I put the black on the ground prong? and the red on the middle prong? Or will that type of connection not work.
That sounds correct for a microswitch connection. Is it a zero delay encoder? That is the only one I can think of that provides individual connections to each button, in this case you would be correct.
Thats it! Thanks!
New suscriber here!. Whats the name of the wire type?. How do I ask for it in the store?. Thanx!
Hi, i got a question. What if I want to plug the led so it turns on when the button is pressed instead of being on all the time? I don't know much about connections so id appreciate your help
You will have to install an interrupt switch that is sufficient for 5V to 12V somewhere on your feed before your connections to your LED Buttons.
Hi buddy im new to this.ive built an arcade table.player 1 one end player 2 the other end.my question is which im stuck on is ive done the wiring on player one side.but when move to other side player two the ground dont reach you get about 6 spades to conect the rest are going across the center of table .which you cant use .can you xtend these in anyway so to ground everthing as it should be ..thank you
Yes, feel free to add as much to it as you like, there is no max length or connection amounts that you have to worry about. These harnesses are "universal", that usually means they are good for most applications but some of the time you have to modify them to get them to work for your application.
THANK YOU!!
I have that say k 12 and all kind of stuff so dont where to plug buttons in at all does it matter ? Long as all controllers are connected the same rite
Are you saying your like an arcade hotline?holiness? Because that would be dope
Where did you get this I means that box wow it's dope
We made for display purposes
can you make a video on how to wire a happy joystick with buttons to a ps4 fight board
Excellent thank you very much
I have a joystick and button and I don't know were the wires goes there many wires and in different colors please help
How do you actually use the jamma harness to wire up the original joy stick on a arcade 1up cabinet,as the wires are soldered on to the joystick
You will have to de-solder them or cut them off and use the connectors on the harness to connect them to the buttons and joysticks
@@RetroactivearcadeCa thank you,I take it you just connect all the commons together in a daisy chain as there are 2 wires the same colours on each of the micro switches so all commons should be linked to each other
is the Ground wiring for the actual button itself to work? or for LED lighting... I'm not sure if my JAMMA has GRND button wires
Each microswitch needs its own ground connection in a daisy chain for the buttons to work. 2 wires per switch, LED needs an extra 2 wires of + & - to work as well.
@@RetroactivearcadeCa appreciate the quick reply!!! So there should be 2 wires per button, I think this stock JAMMA didn't come equipped with that many chained on
There should be a bundle of black wire on the end of the player 1 side of the harness, that is your daisy chain.
@@RetroactivearcadeCa i see the ground wires now.. there are multiple but still not enough for every button, do i need to order more wires for every button?
Possibly, or just spice into them to add your own. There should be enough for 24 connections, 2 joysticks and 15 buttons included.
Not sure if you can help. I have a situation where I have a Pacman machine with pac to JAMMA adapter, and then JAMMA to game elf adapter. I now have a new icade control panel with trackball. Ok I changed panels to have 3 fire buttons. Here is my problem. The original wiring is to the Pacman side and there is no 3rd fire button, so while I can make 2 buttons work even on original, by flipping the dip switch, I’m not sure how to get them actually working on my new 3 fire buttons on this panel. I guess from watching your video, I could daisy chain p1 and p2 start to fire 1 and 2 , but 3? I’m at a loss, been searching for an answer and disappointed that I can’t use new panel as intended with actual fire buttons. Thank you
Just wire button 3 from your harness to your button and daisy chain in your ground. Don't over think it
Hey,
quick question:
is there any reason why my p2 button will act as start but not acting as coin? wiring seems ok and same as p1 button which work both as coin and start
Hello, I would say that if the button is connected properly and responds when pressed it would be a settings issue in MAME or if you are in a jamma board you may have to change the settings in your menu. The only other issue may be a crossed wire somewhere but that would probably give you two different actions when pressed.
@@RetroactivearcadeCa Hey, Thanks for the replay!
at the moment I have a pandora's box 4. the settings seems ok and on free play (the settings in that system is pretty poor) not sure about the wiring though (I didnt built the system) I saw on the jamma board (its the same one as you show in the video) that the p2 is on wire 16 but the green wire from there going no where (for both p1 and p2) that's why im thinking that the one who wired that did something wrong somewhere.
I would have liked to have seen how to wire a Rollie Leaf Switch.
Any difference between 4.8mm and 2.8mm wire harnesses?
Only the quick connector sizes
Could you make an Xbox arcade fightstick using a PCB from a xbox one controller? thanks
kartman74usa you bet we can
Retro Active Arcade Ltd.™
hahaha sorry my question must said could you please make a video of wiring an xbox one pcb for an arcade fightstick? Thanks
"You don't want to do that" - yes you do. It's called PINBALL GAMES. Add two buttons to the left and right side of the cabinet that are daisy chained to the A & B button and voila.
Missing info about leaf switch style buttons
Do you have a idea why my pandora 12s. Wont work. It got frozen. On the welcome screen. Already check the sd card. ?
Is it frozen in the main menu? Can you see games in the games in the game list? If you do not have any response from your controls and buttons, you just have to add a credit to activate them. To avoid this, set you Pandora's box to freeplay in the service menu.
@@RetroactivearcadeCa It got stuck right after turn on. And. Just say pandora 3d rrtv 12s. On the screen.
@@1Wayfixdisconnect the JAMMA harness and turn it on. You need to check the 12V power lead with a multimeter at the harness connection point to make sure it is providing 12V. Too much is very bad for the PD and too little will not power it up properly. You can also do a reset or try holding down the menu button when you power on the PD. This test will only change the video output but if it changes through the modes your board is still good. If none of this works you can contact 3A Game or download the image of your version from their website to restore the SD drive.
@@RetroactivearcadeCa thank you. So much for. You. You. Answer. I apréciate. 🙏
@@RetroactivearcadeCa 3a game is a website
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What about wiring the IL Lorenzo Eurojoystick? I have a wiring harness with a JST connector for the joystick where as the IL Eurojoystick just has microswitches and no JST connector board. Do I just cut off the JST connector?
Yes you will have to cut it off and use the connector size for the microswitches which should be .187 or you can solider the wires to the microswitch directly.
Which microswitch is best ? Zippy or Baolian ? Please reply asap. Thank you
Zippy is the top end Chinese brand, pretty much any other brand would be better but the zippy are pretty reliable. If you looking for longevity they are all pretty good, if you are looking for pressure sensitivity and noise you might want to look a cherry switches.
@@RetroactivearcadeCa thank you so much sir❤ Sir Cherry D44X are available here...are they good for playing fighting games? Should i but them ?
@@darshitmathur145 I cannot get them myself but there are a few websites that do offer versions of the cherry switches. Personally if you are looking gor fighting game buttons I would go with our fusion buttons. They are a "fusion" of sanwa and traditional buttons. They look like the standard Happ/IL buttons but have a pcb microswitch like Santa for a faster more reliable response time. They are also very quiet and durable. I haven't had any problems with them at all! retroactivearcade.ca/collections/concave/products/fusion-concave-pushbutton-black
@@RetroactivearcadeCa Thank you sir! Will definitely order them soon
@@RetroactivearcadeCa Sir one more question. Which encoder board is best "Zero Delay Usb Encoder" or "Xinmotek xm-08" ?
around 8minutes you tried to turn the switch holder into the chrome led button... “wouldn’t work for the video”... more like a pain in the ass for 3/4 of all my chrome buttons... its likely something due to the chrome plating or bad mold, but its a real pain in the ass.
i feel like i am going to break or snap the switch holder, so i put in the switch into the holder to try get a firmer grip and i still have a fear of snapping them or the tabs on the chrome side.
it really doesn’t help that the lock/grip on the nut doesnt grip very well unless you really torque the nut on, im not a fan of torquing plastic parts more than hand tight... so trying to twist the holder in, just spins the entire setup.
if you have any tips or tricks to get passed this that would be great, next step is to bust out some vice grips and wreck the threads... just causing more grief.
When this happens it is usually because it is the wrong lamp holder for the button you are trying to use. That is the case for sure if you are having trouble with all of the buttons, then you need the right lampholders. If it is just a couple and all the parts look the same it could be that the spring inside the button has come out past it's stopper area and into the lampholder section not allowing the lampholder to seat into the button molding properly. Other than that it can just be a bad mold and there was excess plastic left behind from the manufacturing process, compare 2 buttons to see if that is the case and use an exacto knife to cut away the excess. If you break the tab the button is useless to be kind to it, that's all I've got for ya.
i ordered them from you guys! lol, so you may want to check into what holders you are sending out if they are the wrong ones.
About 3/20 buttons went smoothly, the rest were hell, and 2 snapped the clips. I had seen another website selling a very similar looking holder, but it was white. So it could have been a mixup?
Customer service told me it would be cheaper to just buy new ones rather than shipping the broken ones back and I was gonna just order 2 new ones, but the shipping alone was like $17.50 for 2 buttons (edmonton to regina) lol! also the panel i installed it in is only temporary until i build my cabinet, so who knows if i snap more, so i figure i will wait to order more.
Who knows i might win something from kastner arcade auction and have to come down to pick it up anyways, if so ill pop in checkout the store.
@@soiledsux just send me another email about this issue and some pictures and I will just send you some new lamp holders and buttons that have their clips broken. This has become a known issue with a shipment that we got in last month. We would b gre happy to have you at the store if you win an auction, good luck!
I tried to connect my Pandora box to TV and PC but nothing appear on the screen ,..I used VGA and HDMI interface but nothing appear on screen ,...what shall I do ?
Are you powering it on properly? What setup do you have? Is it a game station or just a pandoras box?
great video, do you have one on wiring controllers? I have an 8-way controller problem that's driving me nuts. it won't do diagonals in 2 corners, I can rewire them and sometimes it will change the corners, but there's always 2 that don't work on retropie. I've tried new controllers and also new retropie images. Any ideas?
What kind of joystick are you using?
it's an eg start 8 way joystick. I think I finally figured it out. I didn't realize that there were specific ports on the usb board that the controller plugged into which makes me an idiot :P, but thanks for the reply
@@joshdrinkard398 that was my next question, lol. Glad you figured it out!
12V to power LEDs but do amps matter?
Amps always matter but if it is a regulated power source you should be fine.
thank you gamer elon
Does anyone here know how to wire a 3-position (off/on 1/on 2) push/pull switch to an usb encoder board. I’m trying to use this switch to turn parking lights (position on 1) highlights (position on 2) on my truck simulator. I don’t know enough about this so as not to fry my gaming computer. I figure I better look for advice from the pros. Anybody? Thanks
This dude looks like Elon Musk
Ahhh don't blow his cover
I agree, don’t blow his cover , he’s doing you a favour with his buttons for god sake
Is there a way to contact you with a question?
admin@retroactivearcade.ca
11:48
I'm new. Go ahead, flame me. Haha. So, wiring a Ms Pacman control panel for a jamma. How do I wire the 2 player button? Do I use the player harness?
Hello, yes you would use the 2nd player wire from the JAMMA harness with a ground to wire PL2 assuming your harness is full and uncut. Each side of your JAMMA harness constitutes as a Player side i.e. one side is Player 1 and the other side is Player 2, each wire (Color coded) is the same action for each player. Hope that helps!
@@RetroactivearcadeCa that absolutely helps. Thank you.
I still don’t know how to wire a 2 prong button after watching this. I’m coming with almost no experience. For instance on my jamma it says the brown wire for player 1 start. I get my brown wire and there is only one terminal on the wire to connect to my button but my button has a positive and negative terminal. Then I followed a green wire that was supposed to be player 1 coin and it let to a small white adapter with a black and a yellow wire going into it. I have no idea what those wires are. Very confused 😐
The basis for these switches and harnesses are very simple. The wires, for instance "Brown" will be connected to the positive side of your button and the negative side gets connected with the long black wire with 32 connections on it "daisy-chain" connections as we call it. This will string across to all of your buttons and joystick switches on their negative sides. As for the green with the white plastic connector, this is a bit harder but you will have to cut it off and add an extension or connector or both to get it to your coin button switch. All the buttons should have the identical connection setup with a different color coded wire to each one. As per this diagram: cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0008/4262/9179/files/JAMMA_Wire_Harness_Map.pdf?18261520453617373338
Retro Active Arcade thank you so much for the reply this explains it perfectly! My main issue was that the harness and buttons I was using just weren’t compatible. I did not know about the daisy chain that explains what all the other terminals are for lmao! Thank you so much sorry for my ignorance
No worries, that's what we are here for!
if elon musk ran an arcade
Hello friend, good night leave here the link of the website. Thank you very much. I'm from Brazil.
www.retroactivearcade.ca Come one come all!
I'm trying to add volume buttons to my 4 player cab and want to just simply connect them to my ipac4 which has volume support. Would these buttons work and if so how do i connect them to my ipac4 if they dont have a microswitch? Thx
www.amazon.com/dp/B07F24Y1TB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fab_4u5yFb1YECNE3
Iv recently started an arcade build
Im completely stuck on setting up the control panel.
Iv watched shit loads of videos and tutorials and everything i try fails
Iv got an IPAC 2 and i cannot get it to work iv looked at every wiring diagram and when i go to WINIPAC absolutely nothing works someone help!
CAn you add toggle switches to the encoder?
For an on/off scenario, I am not 100% on that but you can program the ports individually to some extent. What you are asking about might work better with a Mini Pac. Here is a link to the info and specs on our website.
retroactivearcade.ca/mini-pac/
Hope i win!
Who is new and still confused?
Me
still have no clue what im doing
You literally didnt show me any basics.... I dont have LED and I have blue and white wires with no pos or ground labels on the buttons.
I have this same issue
Why does he look like Elon
I paid alot of money to have loud clicky keys on my pc.
:)
Sloppy presentation. Bad camera angles
at least they tried, and got information across. sure as hell helped me even though it wasn't the greatest.
Good stuff I needed this ;)