How Bad was Mario & Luigi Paper Jam?

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  • Опубліковано 20 чер 2024
  • Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam is an often overlooked game in a beloved series. Most peope see the game as a step in the right direction after the sub par Dream Team, Paper Jam was unable to bring back the same heights as previous games in the series. I want to see if the game is actually an underrated classic or just another blunder.
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    0:00 Intro
    2:07 Prologue: This Game is Good?
    3:42 Fighting Is A Waste of Time
    8:57 Earthbound
    11:09 Toad Noises*
    15:14 Nintendo Hates Paper Mario & You (Mostly You)
    19:33 Conclusion
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  • @murmilio42069
    @murmilio42069  Рік тому +18

    I was really proud of how much I've improved in this video so I hope you like it :)
    Like I said, I plan to continue these videos with other games in the series so stay tuned.

    • @murmilio42069
      @murmilio42069  Рік тому +1

      to all the dream team fans, don’t worry, I plan to go in on dream team with a fresh slate when I make the video.
      even though I use it as the butt of the joke a few times, I’m not going to hate it based on my one playthrough as a kid I plan to have fun with the game :)

    • @CosmicSkyes
      @CosmicSkyes Рік тому +2

      @@murmilio42069honestly i think dream team isnt bad but its not my favorite ever, its just more bis which isnt fun

    • @DemetriusWilliams-oe6nr
      @DemetriusWilliams-oe6nr 5 місяців тому

      ​@@CosmicSkyesWhat?

    • @vast6432
      @vast6432 5 місяців тому

      Ima be real with you bro I got this game just to see what's up with it I used ur video as a guide and honestly gameplay wise the problems u said u had I think it's just a skill issue for u bro amd the level up system is more based off superstar saga please get better at these kinda games a boss battle takes me 5 -7mins tops I already did 3 of them

  • @kaielmacmillan9258
    @kaielmacmillan9258 11 місяців тому +126

    I’ve never met anyone who considered dream team a negative instalment . Feel it’s better than paper jam because it has unique characters and locations

    • @Masked_Mastermind
      @Masked_Mastermind 11 місяців тому +13

      Even though I like Dream Team, it definitely has some notable flaws and I can understand why some people dislike it since the game is overly handholdy to the point where it feels like an insult to the player’s intelligence at times, the over abundance of tutorials gets annoying especially if you’re replaying the game (I also don’t get why they weren’t removed in hard mode), the beginning part of the game is painfully slow, the Dream World sections can feel like a chore at times, and the gyro controls can sometimes be a pain to work with.

    • @paulgilbert5278
      @paulgilbert5278 10 місяців тому +8

      The handholding can be averted since Dream Team is pretty difficult especially in Hard Mode

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 8 місяців тому +1

      For sure😊

    • @andremckenna2007
      @andremckenna2007 7 місяців тому +3

      As we see between dream team and paper jam, we see that paper jam have even more animations and the better font of everything

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 5 місяців тому +1

      Dream Team main flaw should be good to use as an example of *how not make a tutorial* . Tutorials should go to the point instead of going around and be redundant, and much less should be 4minutes custcenes. Maybe just the first time a fun custcene and now on a message which pop up.

  • @RaziMemeGod
    @RaziMemeGod 9 місяців тому +92

    DREAM TEAM IS NOT A BAD INSTALLMENT.

    • @Rico3D567
      @Rico3D567 6 місяців тому +5

      Big Facts

    • @guilhermepereira3695
      @guilhermepereira3695 Місяць тому +2

      bro i swear people underestimate how good dream team is, i never owned a 3ds but still, everytime i wanted to watch a nice longplay videos when i was 9, it would be this game

    • @tiagocervera5661
      @tiagocervera5661 23 години тому

      I thought the reason for that was the whole bunch of tutorials

  • @theperfecttroller
    @theperfecttroller 6 місяців тому +58

    that dream team take is abysmal

    • @dogeater5795
      @dogeater5795 5 місяців тому +6

      Dream team is fire

    • @Jonny312.
      @Jonny312. Місяць тому +2

      Best game in the series

  • @zurro311
    @zurro311 Рік тому +186

    Already gonna dislike because you hate Dream Team

    • @chrisjohnson9542
      @chrisjohnson9542 9 місяців тому +40

      Dream team was so good.

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 8 місяців тому +19

      ​@@chrisjohnson9542agreed 😊

    • @williamsdemetrius
      @williamsdemetrius 8 місяців тому +9

      ​@turtleanton6539 I know the M&L series takes inspiration from paper mario but I can't even hold you dream team really opened the door for me and the whole paper mario and mario and luigi series

    • @juleskireeff4563
      @juleskireeff4563 7 місяців тому +5

      Hahaha....
      It's a joke, right ?

    • @MaskedFlea24
      @MaskedFlea24 6 місяців тому

      @@chrisjohnson9542itwas confusing

  • @delfinodolphinsquad910
    @delfinodolphinsquad910 Рік тому +56

    I'm of the idea of anyone's opinion being valid, but a lot of people liked Dream Team, i personally thought it was a fairly solid installment, not the best but pretty good in its own right so can we please keep the bashing on something more actuslyl deserving of it, i.e. Sticker Star

    • @leomassafm160
      @leomassafm160 6 місяців тому +4

      Preach! I won't stand for this Dream Team slander!

    • @GottaFistDemAll
      @GottaFistDemAll Місяць тому

      ​@@leomassafm160We stain Dream Team in THIS house.

  • @therealjaystone2344
    @therealjaystone2344 10 місяців тому +35

    Fans to Dream Team now: perhaps I treated you too harshly

    • @letsfailgaming9850
      @letsfailgaming9850 Місяць тому

      At least it came out when Nintendo didn't have its ban on new characters.

  • @Kirby_BallZ
    @Kirby_BallZ 10 місяців тому +28

    A bit of a hot take but I thought Mario and Luigi dream team was a good game other than the 2d dreams it was what Mario and Luigi is about an original story with original characters and great music😊

    • @falco05
      @falco05 Місяць тому

      Thats not really a hot take, as a pretty big part of the community including me likes this game

  • @MarioIsSpeed
    @MarioIsSpeed 10 місяців тому +36

    Dream team is underrated as hell

    • @GottaFistDemAll
      @GottaFistDemAll Місяць тому

      I say Partners in Time is far more underrated. Dream Team is a step up for having all the fan services; returning characters from past games and original characters stop existing after this game.

  • @dr.kokiri7013
    @dr.kokiri7013 10 місяців тому +34

    I actually liked paper jam

    • @star_hat
      @star_hat 21 годину тому

      Get out

    • @dr.kokiri7013
      @dr.kokiri7013 13 годин тому

      @@star_hat no

    • @bananaslamma4813
      @bananaslamma4813 8 годин тому

      good gameplay mid story and lack of new characters

    • @bananaslamma4813
      @bananaslamma4813 8 годин тому

      playing through it right now, it’s a decent game if you’re willing to look past the boring story (the dialogue writing is still peak alphadream)

  • @Kdawg1287
    @Kdawg1287 11 місяців тому +23

    I just finished paper jam minutes ago as I found a new copy for cheap. Story wise. It’s trash. Game play wise it’s pretty fire. Maybe because I heard this game was bad my, so my expectations were low. I loved all these games.

    • @therealjaystone2344
      @therealjaystone2344 10 місяців тому +2

      What do you expect for a Mario and Luigi game? It always have bad stories

    • @user-vu7ju3cj3k
      @user-vu7ju3cj3k 10 місяців тому +10

      @@therealjaystone2344 lol you're kidding.

    • @bloemkoolendestreetgang450
      @bloemkoolendestreetgang450 5 місяців тому

      I legitimately think paper jam has the best base gameplay and battles of the series. The abilities are actually fun to use in the overworld and paper mario in battle with his unique mechanics is super fun

  • @callmezeldaonemoartime
    @callmezeldaonemoartime 6 місяців тому +12

    3:21 ex fuckin scuse me?

  • @fawfulthegreat64
    @fawfulthegreat64 11 місяців тому +32

    Let's not forget that Paper Jam also failed to deliver even on the Mario & Luigi side of things. There were no M&L-specific characters other than Starlow, who has zero context other than "i'm just here". There were no continuity nods to the previous M&L games whether in the form of returning characters, species, etc and no brand new characters that were a core part of each other M&L game. I'm a bit worried about the implication that Dream Team is worse because it still had all those things, it iterated on the Elite Trio from BIS, brought back Popple from Superstar Saga and Kylie Koopa from Partners in Time as well as not only Broque Monsieur and Madame but new members of their species and even regular NPCs of that species, Beanish NPCs, and plenty of original ones too. For that reason Paper Jam is the only M&L game I consider an insult to the series it's part of, because it doesn't even bring back characters that would make total sense for the story it's trying to tell, like the Elite Trio. Not even TOADSWORTH. It is very blatantly sterilized and keeping only mainline characters beyond Starlow was clearly a bigger priority than any sort of consistency with all the other games including Dream Team. All things considered I'll defend Dream Team any day but Paper Jam gets no sympathy from me. At least Dream Team knew what series it was part of, story and character-wise. Paper Jam seemed to forget that M&L games are supposed to have characters beyond the core Mario cast and Starlow (and the previous games had context to why Starlow was there but PJ is just like "i'm here just because")
    Even the M&L REMAKES made more original contributions to M&L's continuity than Paper Jam did. Say what you will about the gameplay of those side stories (it wasn't all that special) but those side stories made more continuity nods to M&L games outside the one being remade than Paper Jam bothered to do and that's actually impressively sad. The BIS remake even had three COMPLETELY ORIGINAL, BRAND NEW VILLAINS with designs as wild as M&L's wildest. Paper Jam has no excuse for how sterile and bland it is. The Paper Mario rep is bad, but the M&L rep is just as bad, and I'm baffled at how AlphaDream could have chosen to do this for exactly one game even if the interviews said it was their choice. It's just too out of character for the studio that otherwise is very passionate about the original lore and characters they've made for the M&L games, and spoke that way about every other entry besides PJ. I'm really not sure what sin Dream Team could have committed that makes it even close to PJ's level of bad, let alone worse. Its biggest flaw is being slow at times and the tutorials being a bit overbearing, at least it has an original story to tell and a cast of characters & settings befitting of a M&L game instead of a NSMB game. Oh and also it has TOADSWORTH (seriously you CAN'T have a M&L game without him, why did they kill his perfect attendance with PJ, whyyyyy)

    • @volvoman5262
      @volvoman5262 2 місяці тому

      The reason why Paper jam was bad is because, Dream team costed them soo much money with expectations to sell like BIS ( 3-4 million copies ) but it sold only 2 million, so they wanted to make a Quick cash grab by selling it to paper mario community, they didn't want to add any fun characters not because they coudn't, but because it would be "to expensive and cost to much time", Paper jam was boring on porpuse

  • @toxicghost58
    @toxicghost58 6 місяців тому +8

    I never had a problem with "Paper Jam", it wasn't my favorite installment in the series, but I really enjoyed the concept and was excited for it to come out.

    • @falco05
      @falco05 Місяць тому

      It might be the "worst" in the series, but its not bad. Story and Characters are generic af, but gameplay and bosses are really fun

    • @toxicghost58
      @toxicghost58 Місяць тому

      @@falco05 I think the main reason why people didn't like it was because they didn't have any new, original characters for it. I'm guessing they just wanted to explore the idea of the "M&L" characters interacting with the "Paper Mario" characters, which is something I actually really enjoyed out of the game.

  • @slowpoke8585
    @slowpoke8585 6 місяців тому +6

    Man, I hope this series makes a comeback! Honestly, Paper Jam is NOT a bad game. I think it's just a little lame that they didn't do any cool unique locations or make good use of Paper Mario's unique enemies. I feel Nintendo was knee deep into the "let's ONLY use generic Mario enemies and locations" phase at the time of its release. Having a new Mario & Luigi game for the Switch (or Switch 2) would be PERFECT! Imagine being able to do co-op!? You can play single player and have a friend (or brother) jump in at any time? It's an amazing idea that I'm shocked Nintendo hasn't jumped on it yet!

  • @RedStoneMatt
    @RedStoneMatt 10 місяців тому +19

    I never got why so many people always said DT and PJ are bad.
    Like, SS, PiT and BiS are BETTER, yes, but that does not make DT and PJ bad at all, they're just less great, but still more than enjoyable

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 8 місяців тому +5

      Wsy better than sticker star for sure😊

    • @rotundmonibuv5103
      @rotundmonibuv5103 8 місяців тому +4

      Personally I disliked PiT the most. I'd have a harder time ranking the rest but PiT is at the bottom for me.

    • @Master-Fawful958
      @Master-Fawful958 8 місяців тому +4

      I completely agree. In fact, I’ve actually grown to hate Origami King More then Sticker Star and Paper Jam because Paper Jam, and I stand by that. That’s because despite how generic Paper Jam can be, it was clear that Alpadream knew how to work around the creative limitations to make a good game. By contrast; Origami King tried way too hard to to appeal to fans, so much so to the point where anything that felt like a return to form was such an afterthought that almost came as insulting, as if the game is only TAUNTING fans with what they want and not actually committing to it. At least with Sticker Star it was so bad that it was good (at least in my opinion).

    • @voiky752
      @voiky752 2 місяці тому +1

      I think that people call paper jam and pit the worst in the series, not really dream team

    • @RedStoneMatt
      @RedStoneMatt 2 місяці тому +1

      @@voiky752 i still don't get why so many people disliked PiT, it's a wonderful game

  • @thechampionofskylands
    @thechampionofskylands 8 місяців тому +5

    My Headcanon: Paper Mario and Mario are the same and yet not the same. Normal Mario does go on the all paper Mario adventures but as Normal world form. The Paper Mario Book containing the Paper World in peach’s castle, is a book that someone used the Fold of Life on to create another universe just like the Normal Mario universe but it’s all made out of Paper. Paper Mario has the same history and adventures as Normal Mario but everything is Paper.

  • @edwin2red
    @edwin2red 6 місяців тому +5

    The dream team slander is real for this one

  • @That_Retro_Artist
    @That_Retro_Artist 7 місяців тому +8

    Holy shit thank you, finally someone mentions how bad the level balancing is in this game. I remember it was the Paper Petey Piranha fight was when I noticed that bosses were starting to get... long. But it made no sense to me cause I was only like 2 levels below it. It didn't matter though because I was still getting my ass beat. I thought of changing to easy mode but I just endured it. The EXP battle cards were basically essential in a playthrough of Paper Jam. Something I noticed you didn't mention was that the signals for which enemy is going to attack who is severely worse in this game than an all the other ones. I feel like this game relies too much on the boo cookies that basically only serve to be a tutorial for dodging enemy attacks, instead of it being recognizable and having the reflexes to dodge on time.
    This game was such a slog to go through, I'm glad to say I finally beat it, but holy shit it was a waste of time, nothing happened and nothing felt satisfying.
    But anyways great video man

  • @Geppty
    @Geppty 10 місяців тому +6

    When you say Dream Team it's not good I'm sorry but your whole argument gets completely canceled

  • @TannerWA
    @TannerWA Рік тому +8

    the boss settin the record STRAIGHT!

  • @LowEffortDoodles
    @LowEffortDoodles 11 місяців тому +5

    I had no idea there was an Easy mode in Paper Jam

  • @ShaneMGD
    @ShaneMGD 6 місяців тому +2

    No way bro crossed out Dream Team, come on man

  • @Queen_rata
    @Queen_rata 6 місяців тому +3

    I'm not sure if it's just me but most the fights didn't feel that long for me.
    Though I always try max my attack in these games so.....
    (I 100% agree with the paper toads though)

  • @intune252
    @intune252 Рік тому +5

    When they announced origami king I felt all hope was lost for anymore Mario rpgs. It still blows my mind that Nintendo saw the overwhelming backlash for both modern Paper Mario games and decided that making another one like it instead of going back to old formula that literally everyone loved was the best course of action.
    Maybe the SMRPG remake is a glimmer of hope but it's a sad time for people who grew up with these games

    • @CassiusStelar
      @CassiusStelar Рік тому +4

      Origami King is good though

    • @murmilio42069
      @murmilio42069  Рік тому +2

      Yeah i feel like theres just a lack of effort put into smaller titles like the mario & luigi games. Its way easier to copy paste a game with a couple new power ups than creating a brand new unique world characters and story.
      I'm hoping SMRPG goes well but I am scared of them watering it down. Big daddy square will save us though

    • @murmilio42069
      @murmilio42069  Рік тому

      @@CassiusStelar I do think Origami King is p good. Doesnt feel like Paper Mario tho. More like Mario who is Paper

    • @CassiusStelar
      @CassiusStelar Рік тому +2

      @@murmilio42069 dark themes (this time body horror, ooh!), One emotional moment that never fails to make me cry, funny villains, gameplay that always stumps me even on repeat playthroughs without actually being obtuse I'm just dense...
      Yeah that's my entire checklist. That's what I learned to expect from Super, that's why I decided to trek backwards through TTYD, and what I'm currently experiencing in 64. I don't understand what you're getting at

    • @murmilio42069
      @murmilio42069  Рік тому +1

      ​@@CassiusStelar Ye TOK improved a lot just missed the mark for me. I still liked it and 100% the game, I just still missing having a great story with great combat.
      (i wasnt a fan of the circle puzzles) Its also hard not to compare to TTYD which is my favorite.

  • @ciconne
    @ciconne 20 днів тому +1

    Yup it's true. The bros attacks in superstar saga were fast as fuck. They eventually became just movies

  • @oceanbeans8546
    @oceanbeans8546 Рік тому +13

    Could you make a video about why Dream Team was bad? because it was one of if not my very favorite game as a kid, so I'd love to understand why most people dislike it so much

    • @murmilio42069
      @murmilio42069  Рік тому +8

      Yep its already planned. Starting my re-playthrough next week :)

    • @jellyandcats
      @jellyandcats Рік тому +3

      Dream team is my 2nd favourite

  • @supermemoluigi
    @supermemoluigi 6 місяців тому +1

    it's funny and sad to say that in this game, where it's a crossover of Both M&L and Paper Mario, there was NO Original Characters from both series, all vanished from existence with the exception of Starlow, even Toadsworth which is a Mainline Character and was on all M&L Games (even he was in Paper Mario TTYD)

  • @daniellejackson6543
    @daniellejackson6543 11 місяців тому +2

    Now I have beaten earthbound and am currently performing the rock candy sugar packet glitch on sans.

  • @resean2727
    @resean2727 9 місяців тому +2

    Currently playing and man I want to quit, but I have been committed to play all of them.

  • @tiagocervera5661
    @tiagocervera5661 5 місяців тому +1

    Plus the x button is already used for making the trio jump at once

  • @JoelTheParrot
    @JoelTheParrot 2 місяці тому +1

    I don't remember having to grind, that's weird lol

  • @Cliffordlonghead
    @Cliffordlonghead 6 місяців тому +1

    Actually Luigi unleashed 6 Actual characters as in Paper Luigi is in the game but only for listening to the soundtrack in the game.

  • @sahilhossian8212
    @sahilhossian8212 3 місяці тому +1

    Lore of How Bad was Mario & Luigi Paper Jam? Momentum 100

  • @Aztro64
    @Aztro64 4 місяці тому +1

    I thought about modding paper jam and attempt to add Paper Luigi to the party, but i highkey don't know where to begin or how to get that started.

  • @tiagocervera5661
    @tiagocervera5661 5 місяців тому +1

    11:36 Sticker star was the game they refirece the most while they were making this game

  • @thebestworst8002
    @thebestworst8002 6 місяців тому +1

    Looking back at this game, the 3DS artstyle for the Mario and Luigi games have aged so poorly. The original on GBA and especially the DS games had such a timeless artsyle yet the 3DS games just look so dated

  • @JustJai015
    @JustJai015 Місяць тому

    Here's a tip to keep up with levels:
    Kill everything. When there's nothing left in the area, go back later. Don't waste time on quests killing everything though.

  • @talesofthespiritwarriorand1106
    @talesofthespiritwarriorand1106 14 днів тому

    Honestly these problems with long boss fights are only cause you don't fight normal enimies. You can easily get to level 6 by the time you're done with petey pirana

  • @TheRealHedgehogSonic
    @TheRealHedgehogSonic 10 місяців тому +3

    Dafuq you say about Dream Team?

  • @RenardioMFG
    @RenardioMFG Місяць тому

    I love how more than half of these comments are about Dream Team when this is a Paper Jam video

  • @tiagocervera5661
    @tiagocervera5661 5 місяців тому +1

    4:11 You just an inpatient gamer

  • @Makithe2nd
    @Makithe2nd 21 день тому

    Half the level?!
    I didn't even try to fight them and somehow got my team to level 9!

  • @springssprangyard8278
    @springssprangyard8278 8 місяців тому +1

    Who the hell was excited for Paper Jam though. I remember it being announced on that terrible Starfox muppet and Color Splash E3 and most people crucified it lmao

  • @Mymy_64
    @Mymy_64 11 місяців тому +6

    I actually liked Paper jam just due to its better pacing and fast forward.

  • @conor7895
    @conor7895 10 місяців тому +1

    Massive redemption arc 9 mins in

  • @dumcapmariugi2036
    @dumcapmariugi2036 Місяць тому

    Fun fact: according to the wiki, paper luigi WAS meant to be included and playable but since it would be too hard to ex: jump with all characters on the overworld etc he was cut

  • @tiagocervera5661
    @tiagocervera5661 23 години тому

    4:15 12:22 13:22 hey! it's not My fault that your inpatient gamer

  • @Jamesyboi135
    @Jamesyboi135 9 місяців тому +3

    Poor dream team and sticker star

    • @abellopez7033
      @abellopez7033 5 місяців тому +2

      Only Dream Team. Sticker Star fucking sucks.

    • @Catlocer
      @Catlocer 3 місяці тому

      @@abellopez7033no it does not bitch

    • @CameronRoberts-jh9mr
      @CameronRoberts-jh9mr Місяць тому

      ? Sticker is bad though and has actual bad gameplay decisions.

    • @Catlocer
      @Catlocer Місяць тому

      @@abellopez7033 both are good?

  • @xanander4693
    @xanander4693 2 години тому

    Paper Jam was fine. I liked playing it. However, it was a little too easy bc Paper Mario’s didn’t take any damage if he had copies and dodging attacks was baby mode.

  • @Stormkyleis
    @Stormkyleis Рік тому +6

    Yep I feel like this is pretty accurate.
    Paper Jam introduced some cool new features like the fast forward button and the challenges, but the world and the characters are so bland

  • @ikaribehindyou
    @ikaribehindyou 4 місяці тому +1

    dream team might actually be debatably the best one

  • @CharaGamerButterfly
    @CharaGamerButterfly 2 місяці тому +1

    I enjoyed Paper Jam, as a game, but not as a Mario and Luigi game

  • @3DoublePoint
    @3DoublePoint 12 днів тому +2

    Paper jam is an amazing game. i played

  • @heyimdavidsbook2
    @heyimdavidsbook2 2 дні тому

    6:12 That's just a skill issue that doesn't make the game bad

  • @drewcraft0
    @drewcraft0 2 місяці тому +1

    I liked paper jam. I watched it growing up. But it’s nice to hear other people say about the game (aka the game ha a a lot of bugs)

  • @garywilson2338
    @garywilson2338 5 місяців тому +1

    Too dang long isnt a problem if you’re just patient.

  • @misterniceguy429
    @misterniceguy429 7 місяців тому

    17:41
    Actually the real reason why it became Paper Mario was due to the hardware limitations of the N64. Nintendo needed some RPGs for the system, Square Enix tried to port FF7 to the system but they were unsuccessful leading to them making it a PS1 exclusive and leading to an awkward moment between them and Nintendo. There was an EarthBound and Fire Emblem game for the N64 but they ended up getting cancelled. So Nintendo had to use the limitations of their own system and ended up creating Paper Mario, and the paper aesthetic was used for future games, some for the better like PMTYD and SPM and some for the worst like Sticker Star.

  • @neo____
    @neo____ 11 місяців тому +2

    mother *>* earthbound
    the toad rescue missions are awful i agree
    no more mario in paper mario when
    another banger video murmilio!!!!!

  • @YelarinYellowStellar
    @YelarinYellowStellar 5 місяців тому

    Thing that pisses me off the most is that I couldn't 100% ot Just one boss before my 3ds broke, Alright but i do gotta say I did enjoy this game before knowing about the community about paper mario see look if i never knew about it I wouldn't think things has changed but since i do I start wonder will it ever going back? The remake doesn't count

  • @beastslayer8729
    @beastslayer8729 6 годин тому

    I will not stand for this Dream Team slander. It may not have been as peak as Bowser's Inside Story, but that doesn't mean it was a bad game. Hell I would argue it was better than Partners in Time.

  • @andremckenna2007
    @andremckenna2007 7 місяців тому

    1:12 people are so dramatic, it needed an remake because to to decrease unecessary forced tutorials and to have the same art style as the previous remake and the 3D giant battle similar to the dream team and also you wouldn't need to have the limited items to go back to the battle and also it is cool having an another game with it like the previous remake

  • @cloverkip
    @cloverkip 6 місяців тому +1

    it wasnt. it wasnt bad

  • @Skylar_T
    @Skylar_T 8 місяців тому

    I tried to like Paper Jam, but I just couldn't, tried to finish it seeing as I finished all of the other Mario and Luigi games, but I ended up dropping it, probably won't return to it.

  • @ExGanonMain
    @ExGanonMain 6 місяців тому

    There is no way that you said that not only Dream Team is trash, but you also said that Paper Jam is better than it in some way.

  • @Claydoyoyo
    @Claydoyoyo 6 місяців тому

    8:43 skill issue, i was 8 when i finished this and when i launched the game i was level 41!

  • @KaydeGustafson
    @KaydeGustafson 25 днів тому

    Honestly. I don’t think it deserves the hate. I actually love it.

  • @xanander4693
    @xanander4693 2 години тому

    Comparing Earthboumd to Paper Jam is comparing apples to oranges. It’s so frustrating when ppl make critics on games by bringing up completely different franchises. It makes zero sense and doesn’t help your argument

  • @whybother5741
    @whybother5741 27 днів тому

    11:32 Dang, Paper Luigi not a character anymore?

  • @bobbywasabi17
    @bobbywasabi17 5 місяців тому

    this is kinda a hot take but I love this game. Prolly just bc its super nostalgic for me but either way, I loved it

  • @Powomp
    @Powomp Місяць тому +1

    The king pokeys are easy as shit. Get good.

  • @star_hat
    @star_hat 21 годину тому +1

    Imagine hating dream team STICKERSTAR IS MUTUAL BUT DREAM TEAM? get out ALSO BROTHERSHIPPO

  • @tiagocervera5661
    @tiagocervera5661 5 місяців тому

    19:00 i honestly don't see how paper luigi would have made this game better gameplay-wise he'd probably make things worse given that you control paper with the y button in this game paper luigi would have likely be controlled with the x button meaning You would have to keep pressing all 4 face buttons during combat does sound confortable to you sure it kind of sucks that hes not in the story at all but givin how this is design he would not have work

  • @rukariogamer9661
    @rukariogamer9661 7 місяців тому

    I think the problem would not be the gameplay but the story For example, the need to make sure that if they are toads they are good while the koopas or goombas are the bad ones, remember how in the first paper Mario that There were different towns where Mario's enemies lived, but instead of being bad, they are peaceful people, some with jobs or others as if they were toads. And by removing what Paper Mario did, its essence was what destroyed Paper Mario fans, no more original characters or personalities. only good toads and bad goombas and koopas and the lack of Mario's companions more than a simple Reference I feel that Paper Jam is a good game but with wasted potential, remember how in Mario and Luigi, even the dream team had a new villain But in paper jam they decided to make the usual classic bowser kidnapping princess peach it doesn't bother me but it is from the main saga like the 2D and 3D games If at least there was a modification that makes the game fit well with the characteristic elements that Paper Mario was, it would be great.

  • @letsfailgaming9850
    @letsfailgaming9850 Місяць тому

    Didn't Paper jam come out in the year of Luigi? How much better would it have been to have paper Luigi accompany the bros instead of the mute paper Mario?

    • @falco05
      @falco05 Місяць тому

      The game came out in like 2015 or 16 i think, the yearcof luigi was 2013 i think

    • @AverageCommentor
      @AverageCommentor День тому

      Nah that was Dream Team, hence the huge focus on Luigi in that game.

  • @voiky752
    @voiky752 2 місяці тому

    I only think that dream team is bad because of the battle system like who had to add motion controls?! Glad they removed it in paper jam and not to mention zeekeeper.

  • @BearManescalchi
    @BearManescalchi 8 місяців тому +1

    You make some great points here! The overly legnthy and repetitive battles are what killed the Mario & Luigi series for me. Enjoyed the first for its novelty, the second was pretty mid. Only made it half way through Bowser's inside story. I could do it no longer. Played the demo for the 4th game, and wow, so slow and annoying with the tutorials. I'm looking forward to that Thousand Year Door remake; good riddance to this series that killed the Mario RPG games for me.

    • @paulgilbert5278
      @paulgilbert5278 7 місяців тому +3

      That’s a pity. M&L is fantastic.

    • @BearManescalchi
      @BearManescalchi 7 місяців тому

      I’m happy you like it, and have more good games in the series than us Paper Mario’ers, but that battle system just wears on me quick.

  • @TwelveGuardianKijin
    @TwelveGuardianKijin 3 місяці тому

    Papercraft Battle... AWFULL THING ans the S Rank God that Impossible

  • @TheSnorlax7
    @TheSnorlax7 Місяць тому

    Morton, iggy, Lemmy fight is fucking horse shit. I despise insta-kill mechanics with a burning passion!!! 😡

  • @ydnmn5622
    @ydnmn5622 11 місяців тому +2

    I like dream team though.....

  • @samsdumbworld7287
    @samsdumbworld7287 6 місяців тому

    EARTHBOUND LETS GOOOOOOO

  • @rjante2236
    @rjante2236 6 місяців тому

    This game feels like a solid 7. The battles themselves are still fun, but man the story is such a bore. What a shame.

  • @xXGhostStalker
    @xXGhostStalker Місяць тому

    Papercraft battles were far better and more fun than the shit giant battles in the Dream Team with bullshit gyro mechanics. Giant battles were probably the worst aspect of both Dream Team and Inside Story

  • @dogeater5795
    @dogeater5795 5 місяців тому

    dream team is a masterpiece thi

  • @Eli-tq2xe
    @Eli-tq2xe 7 місяців тому

    I'm sorry but if you played easy mode and were 10 levels behind late game bosses that's just a skill issue, in my most recent gameplay I was NEVER that behind and I didn't go out of my way to defeat more enemies, I just defeated everyone in the current area and moved on just like you do in every single game

  • @mariobroultimate1808
    @mariobroultimate1808 Рік тому +1

    How was Dream Team garbage?

    • @murmilio42069
      @murmilio42069  Рік тому

      Well at its core, its a mario & luigi game which means good, some of the biggest issues are pacing and hand holding.
      I have some other game mechanic issues but the biggest problem I think most people agree on is that the game feels like a big step back from its Bowsers Inside Story. So dissapointment fueled the flames.
      My Dream Team Video is gonna cover all my gripes so stay tuned for that.

    • @mariobroultimate1808
      @mariobroultimate1808 Рік тому

      @@murmilio42069 I get that. Though at least it has an original story, locations, and characters, UNLIKE PAPER JAM!

    • @BOOMBoom-tv4kv
      @BOOMBoom-tv4kv Рік тому

      ​@@mariobroultimate1808I mean you can hate both games sooo

    • @therealjaystone2344
      @therealjaystone2344 10 місяців тому +1

      @@murmilio42069basically the most common complaint from dream team are:
      1) tutorials that are all over the place and that was before xenoblade 2 made it similar or worst
      2) 3D design which made the game to feel awkward to play
      3) the game was too long to beat for a kid game and 40 hours was a big deal because that doesn’t belong unless it’s a grown up game

    • @Rico3D567
      @Rico3D567 6 місяців тому

      ​@@murmilio42069I can see why you don't like Dream Team as much as the other Mario and Luigi games but I still consider it a really good game and at least it's way better than paper jam

  • @tiagocervera5661
    @tiagocervera5661 5 місяців тому

    12:02 hey the paper toad missions aren't bad at all if anything they're fun breaks from the normal game besides paper jam is still a good game regardless not great but still good

  • @JeysArcade
    @JeysArcade 2 місяці тому

    I love dream team tho..

  • @turtleanton6539
    @turtleanton6539 8 місяців тому +1

    F toads

  • @Thehumangamers2585
    @Thehumangamers2585 2 місяці тому

    i don't think paper jam was bad at all

  • @tiagocervera5661
    @tiagocervera5661 5 місяців тому

    4:10 This is not a problem with the game bozo and proves my point of you being an inpatient gamer

  • @Amongzinho_countryballs-mapper
    @Amongzinho_countryballs-mapper 6 місяців тому

    Disliked for hating paper jam and dream team, because these games are the bests and not bad
    Edit: paper jam is my second favorite, the first one is supersaga

    • @Emperor-Z
      @Emperor-Z 5 місяців тому

      That's crazy ngl

  • @Link101yt
    @Link101yt День тому

    Ok 1 how dare you talk about dream team that way and 2 you can’t say it’s the last installment because we getting another Mario and Luigi wahoooooooooooo

  • @tiagocervera5661
    @tiagocervera5661 16 днів тому

    Heres my list of this guy quote on quote problems with the game: number 1: 4:12 🤨huh? okey 1 how is that a problem with game? these attack animations are very cool watching them is like ah so cool your compling over nothing white dog number 2! : 12:02 hey the paper toad missions aren't bad at all if anything they're fun breaks from the normal game besides paper jam is still a good game regardless not great but still good number 3!! 13:00 excuse me!!! 14:36 dude theres wrong with them 🤬what the heck is your deal! You insult! my favorite game for no reason other than it takes too long well thats the point get use to it

  • @Makithe2nd
    @Makithe2nd 21 день тому

    Why dream team a bad game?
    It's long but not bad

  • @Gmack2311
    @Gmack2311 3 місяці тому

    Paper Jam is like the best one!

  • @rmcBloody
    @rmcBloody Рік тому +1

    I remember plying this game for 30 minutes and dropping it.

    • @murmilio42069
      @murmilio42069  Рік тому +1

      Lol I was committed when I started but the urge to quit definitely hit me during the mid game slump

    • @handlesbelike
      @handlesbelike Рік тому +1

      ​@@murmilio42069paper jam is decent tho

    • @Rico3D567
      @Rico3D567 6 місяців тому

      ​@@murmilio42069same here mate

  • @3mer1ld
    @3mer1ld 8 місяців тому

    Paper Jam's potential in my opinion was wasted and of course it had to be the worst because of Paper Mario and it's terrible rule of not putting in unique characters and just put in generic stuff. This could've been a great opportunity to clash both of the spin offs together but the way they did it ended up becoming bland and boring as hell. The music just doesn't add up to me either it's the worst out of the previous 4 entries. Sucks that it's the last original story out of the series (at least if nintendo could pick out Alphadream's torch and make another entry)

  • @SMCwasTaken
    @SMCwasTaken 6 місяців тому

    You hate dream team?
    No

  • @joshuafoote5144
    @joshuafoote5144 4 місяці тому

    I thought it was pretty good.