Why We Thought 'Friday' Stunk
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2020
- A point of view regarding a debatable topic.
Topic: The infamy of the song/music video 'Friday' sung by Rebecca Black.
Opinion: The story of this viral video represents the end of the early age of UA-cam as well as how much the platform (and the people who use it) have grown since.
'Friday' Music Video: • Rebecca Black - Friday
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Watching this, I'm just glad that Rebecca Black is doing well. She didn't deserve that as a kid and she's an absolute legend to have managed to pull through it like this. It's genuinely admirable.
Absolute legend?
relative legend?
map legend?
theLegend27?
Legend of Zelda
This is the "UA-cam Rewind" we needed.
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13 y/o "singer" grows up to be mature adult. How many teen Disney actors can say the same?
Hey don't act like Macauley Culkin didn't grow up into the guy Leonardo DiCaprio wishes he was.
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Then again, she didn’t have child predators grooming her for her entire career.
That’s something a lot of people don’t think about when judging child actors who’ve grown up.
Ryan Gosling possibly…
"Friday came out in 2011"
I was not expecting to feel old when I clicked this video.
I thought it was a dumb song, but not to the point of saying anything inflammatory. My friends and I just made jokes about it together for a week or two and that was it. If it came out today I don't think people would care much. It'd still get some notoriety, but it wouldn't be anything like "It's Every Day, Bro".
I've never heard of that, and I won't look it up.
yeah, it'd be like a week long meme or something
It starts with a J and rhymes with "cake stall" and thats all ill say on the matter.
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6:20 It's like Friday fell into the uncanny valley of youtube content and it's rather well documented how people respond to the uncanny valley.
Except the uncanny valley is a proven phenomenon, unlike "I'm not used to this level of quality of music video".
@@ActionGamerAaron isn't the uncanny valley just a reaction of disgust to something that seems slightly off from what you first expect? Like at first glance you expect one thing but then subtle differences show it to be not quite what you thought
@@Jack93885 No, it specifically refers to what is expressed when an object looks almost humanoid, but it just off enough to trigger the valley, that being a reaction of disgust.
@@ActionGamerAaron I don't see how my simile is inapt, it's like the uncanny valley but in reference to UA-cam content as opposed to humanoid figures.
@@Jack93885 The metaphor works if you believe what Counter Points is saying here that we would react differently just because we were used to two extremes in quality. I don't buy that shit for a second. Sorry, Friday would have just as likely been mocked in mass just as much today.
“This is the worst song ever”
“Ok.”
Dude Rebecca is an absolute phase master 😂😂😂 swervin the h8ers since 13
What a soldier.
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Yeah i'm not gonna lie, I miss the hell out of "online content", even the video game atmosphere was different back then.
damn these people, they don't deserve internet, they ruined the nerd culture. everybody wants to be called a nerd these days, without understanding it's meaning and experiencing what we went through as kids and teenagers.
people used to laugh at me, they would even call you names and be mean to you if they'd found out you played games...
the places still exist out there. its very rare but the frontier is still there. its just out of youtube.
@@thezipcreator fuck off, zoomer.
I'm a gen Y u idiot.
@@silentt8161 To some extend Discord is a bit better
@@pladimir_vutin That never happened where I live. Pretty sure they picked on you because you like to play the victim. Weak people get bullied plain and simple.
This just made me miss the simpler days. UA-cam was magical back when it was a new frontier, with every video you watched, you felt like Columbus arriving in the Americas, exploring new land never before seen by those you're normally around. A restrospective video like this was the perfect send-off, mate. Thank you!
@stockart whiteman bro, u are exactly on the money!
Your profile picture seems to want to talk
I don’t think those videos are even gone now, it’s mainly just the way UA-cam recommends videos is different now in my opinion
@@indescribableemptiness4104 They're there, they're just rather difficult to find compared to back in the day where they were on the front page. These days people make videos for money and/or fame though, they don't really make stuff for the sake of making stuff, which is what made the old videos so great.
That frontier is not yet gone if you have yet adventure left in you.You always surf the more unknown websites.
11:22 I don't think the world has become scarier, we're just more aware of all the things that scare us.
Subjectively, the world has become scarier
...I guess.
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Exactly, in the early 2000s there was fear of terrorism and economic collapse, its all the same lol
Monday stinks more.
I'm Sorry Kralich
give me back the lasagna you stole from me garfield
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Imagine telling a 13 year old that she's ugly and to kill herself, simply because she sang a song...
And people acting like she killed a village of disabled puppies or something. Insanity.
imagine another 10 years down the road and we look back at trump with the same wtf why did we hate him so much... world would need to get just a few tiers more fucked up.
"Over the past decade, the world has become gradually... scarier. And WE have become more sophisticated in how digest online content. If Friday came out today, instead of getting angry, we'd probably approach it with a lot more humor... and that's a nice thought."
That made me really happy to the point I almost teared up. And honestly... i'm not entirely sure why. But thank you for making this video. It... didn't seem like it was gonna hit me in the feels as much as it did, but i'm grateful either way. I love this channel, and I love your content. Please keep it up for years to come!
(Edit) Just saw your "That's All For Now" video...
...
...welp...
There’s always hope! Think about it, if he made THIS with no gas in the tank, if he made a video once a season or twice a year, they’d be rare, sure, but he’d stuff all his inspiration and energy into them.
It’s like reading a writer you love, then missing their awesome frequent books. Then they come back with their opus and you realize how all those other books were just clutter and giving them breathing room bred true mastery over their medium. Gotta have faith!
I was actually thinking about this the other day and I decided to check out where she was now. I was pleasantly surprised. I didn't like Friday when I first saw it, but the backlash was so bleak. I'm glad shes a functioning adult now with a positive attitude and some legitimate talent. You have to be really mentally tough to deal with that kind of hatred and gracefully move past it
This video is so well done. Videos like this are why I still prefer UA-cam over television. This is the interesting, niche, shit that I love.
It's because everyone knows Saturday is the superior day of the week.
Bud, Thursday is where it's at! Just listen to Tripod
Happy saturday
She did that a couple of years later: ua-cam.com/video/GVCzdpagXOQ/v-deo.html
Saturday isn't the best day. I work Saturday
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Idk Smosh had some weird blend of mainstream amateur skits years before Friday. The camera upgrades they got around 2008-2009 was weird mixed with the high quality video.
I think you nailed the "I'm not sure what this is...is this a joke?" problem. Her voice wasn't developed yet (a little nasally) and she didn't write this song that was never really meant to go so viral. But we didn't know what to make of it and it took a life of it's own.
…Now that's weird. I was pretty sure the song came out in 2015 or something.
Also kudos to Rebecca Black for being able to laugh it off as she grew up. That kind of constant verbal abuse can scar you as a teenager.
It’s was on 2011 September 11
She talks about how she had to quit school and be homeschooled due to the constant bullying. She also said she got death threat messages and had to quit social media.
Cartoon Hanks who doesn’t get death threats but it’s not appropriate to be sending those to children
@@cartoonhanks1708 I know this is a late reply. But quitting social media is a fantastic decision. I still kinda feel bad for her, but I promise she was better for it.
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"We have become more sophisticated in how we digest online content."
People are constantly jumping on bandwagons, engaging in mass dislikes just for the sake of being part of something, tear each other down online, and cancel culture is a thing too. Everything is either viewed through the lens of their own simplified, narrow viewpoint, political and cultural discussions are reduced to absurd levels of tribalism, and people get their news, opinions, and ideas from memes or their favorite content creator. That just doesn't seem very sophisticated to me.
I think his statement was a bit too generalized. While obviously, there are still plenty of issues (and some new ones) with the way we digest content, I think overall it’s gotten better.
I remember back when I was little, most videos I watched would have several top comments with a negative slant, usually comparing the video they commented on to one they didn’t like. Now, it may just be that I watch videos targeted for older, more mature people, but it seems like the comments are a lot more encouraging and are more likely to offer legitimate commentary.
Thank you for reminding me how old I am. Honestly, I feel like if this song came out today, it wouldn't get any recognition at all. There's just so much nonsense these days to grab peoples' attention that this wouldn't get a look-in.
Even when I was young, I didn't think 'Friday' was great, but I didn't think it was absolutely horrible, either. Especially to the point of eliciting death threats; Jesus Christ... Like, it was just "meh"; my opinion has only changed by being lighter on it since I, naturally, felt bad about the whole thing.
My friends and I were laughing almost the whole time we watched it but yes I would never have said any of those things, I think we were just amazed at how quickly it blew up... I swear It was probably in the 100k views when I saw it the first time..
I wasn’t on youtube when this happend, and when she said someone told her to get an eating disorder i was really shocked, and the face of the interviewer told the whole story
The innocent suffer the most in every instance, and we must learn to rise above it ourselves or be consumed.
3:32 But February 10, 2011 was a Thursday. How dare you. You have stolen my childhood, and my dreams. How dare you.
Oh very original...
@@TwentyPercentDash ...........
Pikachu2Ash prequel memes shall never die.
@@Pikachu2Ash - Friday? Where we're going, we don't need Friday.
@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 A meme can die if the majority of people stop sharing it, but that doesn't mean people will stop bringing it up.
God, I really miss old UA-cam. Back when nobody took anything so serious as they do now and everything was more ironic and friendly.
To quote Red Green "back in my day means today is not your day and tomorrow is a long shot"
They literally bullied this girl though 💀 people weren't just laughing at Friday, it was cool to write hate comments about it and the singer. That's what the last three minutes said but maybe you didn't watch the whole video.
@@assholebyginger I'm just here pointing out his obvious nostalgia blind comment.
@@InForTheLonghaul It was less destructive than it is today, tbf.
It was not more friendly but more loose.
People were setting foot into a new environment, having an avatar at their hands which they could mould to be whatever they wanted.
They tended to approach each other in a more good-natured and informal manner, would usually lead to encounters being friendly.
And yes, things being fresh and new gives room to irony: since almost no one is used to any thing yet (in addition to people coming here to be entertained), there is little room for seriousness among the goofiness mentioned in the video unless it is specified.
Do you think you would be interested in making a video about the classic “you can’t do it any better” argument people use when someone gives a critique of something.
Edit: oof nevermind just saw your other video
Well to be fair, some people act very self-entitled when they criticize things as if their opinion is fact and ignore that art is subjective. But often times you look like a better person if you can do "better" at the medium than the one you are criticizing.
@@Pikachu2Ash You're clearly the asshole original comment speaks about.
Pikachu2Ash fair point but at the same time just because you aren’t able to do a job doesn’t mean you can’t tell when the job was done poorly. I once heard a comedian talk about the subject and he described it pretty accurately
“I’ve never flown a helicopter, but if i saw one in a tree i would say, dude fucked up”
@@pasijutaulietuviuesas9174 How am I? I presented a fair point, while you called someone a named and pretty much just said "no u" as an argument lol.
@@Pikachu2Ash No, you presented an unnecessary point. Fair points are usually necessary or at least useful. The first part of your comment wouldn't have sounded as bad but the second part pretty much just confirms it to me that you're one of those... Also, there was no "no u" there. Learn 2 logic.
I love how when he plays an example of other pop songs of the era he specifically plays a portion of a song where they are literally naming days of the week
I thoroughly enjoyed the wild ride of nostalgia that came with those throwback videos, thank you.
I watched his "that's all for now" video right before this and it was all I could think about at the end
CA: People, in 2011, didn’t want UA-cam to become a polished place.
Me: Whoops.
I keep rewatching your videos, hope your well and I just wanted to say thank you
I had that song as my ringtone for about a year in college after it came out! haha This video had great insight into what UA-cam was like back then and how it's evolved! Thank for the upload and honestly, thanks for bringing me back to those days where I was a lot happier!
Also, my initial take on the song when it came out, I actually enjoyed it lmao Not because I thought it was particularly good or anything, but it was catchy.
The ugly reactions of so many so called grown folks to a 13 year old girl's song is far more embarrassing than the song itself.
And we know those all came from adults how?
@@Richard_Nickerson It's a big thing actually, a lot of people don't have it, and clearly you don't either. It's called 'Common Sense'. That's how he knows. I'm pretty sure a lot of adults had phones more than kids did back in 2011. You never saw a 4 year old with an iPod. But now a days some kids have the most recent iphone and they can't even operate it.
@@HaloWolf102
You say I'M the one who lacks common sense and yet YOU'RE the only who obviously thinks UA-cam is only on phones...
@@Richard_Nickerson Did I ever say that was the only outlet that existed in 2011....? If you did, please quote me.
If you are looking for an argument against that point, I'm fairly certain that parents wouldn't allow their children to use their account on their work station. Children casually using an expensive piece of technology that parents have no idea how to fix themselves. And kids could probably access tons of websites that have PUPs, and malicious malware. Plus the content that parents thought kids would get into would be restricted, and if they didn't know how to do that, they wouldn't let them use it at all.
Now, your only strength in this argument is consoles, a lot of children had these things, but as for making a profile, and typing a comment is painfully slow and agonizing unless they had a keyboard attachment to their controller.
If you add up all of these outlets, you would get a surplus of children. I'd say the percentages would be 50/50.
The original comment also didn't explicitly say that 'only' adults were commenting either, you picked a strawman directly out of the pot, and made it a weakly structured foundation of an argument.
@@HaloWolf102
Not flat out, but that's 100% what you were implying.
"These adults' reactions are awful!"
"How do we know it was only adults?"
"Because only adults had cellphones in 2011."
What the hell else are you saying with that point, genius?
This is a great video. Reminds us how we got here and all that’s happened along the way
Wanna relive the Friday moment? My feeds keeps having this ad called oh Sherry by Don taino. Cannot unheard.
damn im going to miss these videos a lot.. your analysis is always really refreshing. take care man. i hope that you will still make a few videos after your vacation. i would love to be able to still have your videos come on every now and then. it would also be cool to see you do collaborations with other similar analysis style content creators like maybe knowing better. going to miss you in my notifications.
very nice points and I loved how you explained everything. good video, keep it up!
Excelent analysis, and sure enough how time simply goes by...
If this is the last ever Counter Arguments video ever I think it would be a nice end piece to this great journey.
Great job on this. What a solid take on this piece of history
To think how much scarier the world has already become in 6 months, hope we get more Counter Arguments in the future
Rebecca is genuinely so sweet, from all the way back in 2011 until today. She handled herself beautifully and I’m really impressed that through that entire time she managed to keep a good head on her shoulders and not let it get to her.
honestly, best of your videos to date.
"Hopefully we have a pretty good decade ahead of us in the '20s"
Oh innocent and naive January Counter Arguments...
Great analysis!
Thanks for the nostaliga. I remember the day that "It's Friday" became viral like it was yesterday.
Damn well made video. Good work homie.
So glad you randomly popped up in my recommended.
Honestly great and heartwarming video
Wow this is a blast from the past
I love you man. I'm gonna miss you on this platform
Seeing youtube in the golden years...god I wish we could go back
Ackk, after watching your latest video this one hits me in the feels ;-;
I LOVE videos like this. Basically a History of kind of thing.
Great explanation dude
Me and my bros listen to it ironically so many times that we grew to unironically dig it.
I wonder if that's what really happened... I don't like any of CA's reasoning this entire video (a rare, perhaps unique miss for him), it seems much more likely that the song simply hit the perfect mix of "this is so incredibly awful I'm going to share it with my friends for laughs" alongside it being ironically enjoyable.
@@Alkerae me too. Society (or more specifically teens and young adults) love to make fun of teenagers, especially teenage girls. To compare, Sweatshirt by Jacob Sartorius was also hated for the same reason. Except, he actually had young girl fans who made him feel somewhat popular. Insecure teenage girls also love to hate on each other so I don’t think the reason why she was hated is because she muddied the line between mainstream and home videos.
Good last video man. Your heart may not have been in it, but your ability to make me laugh sure was. Youll be missed
I've been sharing Friday on Facebook every Friday (that I don't forget to) since at least 2013 (maybe even before on an old account idk), so I think I found the humour in it even back then. Good shit
I think most people just lacked the context that it wasnt some wannabe popstar but just some kid having fun.
The song is pretty bad dont get me wrong, but the only reason we cared was probably because it was fun to hate on something as a community.
I just wish we didnt take it so far when we do these things, while most people were humorous about their hatred of the video, way too many people were downright mean.
Regarding your conclusion, if the song came out today I think the reaction would be up to chance. Could blow up as a meme or could just get talked about in a commentary channel and fade back to obscurity a week after.
Theres no telling.
Also im just glad Rebecca made it out alright. Im glad she had nothing to do with actually writing or making the song since she was able to separate herself from the criticism that way. Criticism is a lot harder when something is actually your work, but since the song was only a heartless product to be sold I doubt she cared about the music itself being insulted. Sadly she still had to carry with a lot of hate directed at her though.
This video gives me so much nostalgia
Bruh showed up, spoke gospel for years and years, released a video about a song nobody wanted a video about, then left the platform right before the whole world went to shit. The most giga of gigachads, counter arguments will be missed.
In 2000 years we'll be waiting for his return
Weirdly nostalgic video. Wasn't expecting this.
Good insight into this issue
Nice subject and analysis
I think the other reason why UA-cam has changed so much is because the average demographic of UA-cam users in 2011 was probably very young and most of them were in their teens. So the average commenter on UA-cam probably didn’t have much of a filter and very little maturity to rationalize with the content being watched. I first Discovered UA-cam in 5th grade probably when I was like 10 or 11. I’m 22 years old now, so just doing a quick math, that was around the year 2009. So I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the UA-cam audience back then were either my age or at least six or seven years older than me. so now in 2020 that entire group of people are now a lot older and much more mature and can look back at all of this content with a little bit more respect.
I think you nailed it when you said it was stuck in the uncanny valley between mainstream and amateur. People always react negatively to the uncanny valley. Plus the memes
I'll be completely honest. This video is the first I heard of this song.
Great video!
I was in college at the time Friday went viral and I remember thinking back then that it really wasn't much worse than any of the Top 40 stuff on the radio. Even as far as Ark Music Factory songs/videos go, it's not the worst. Some of that shit was weird, particularly the songs and videos from Alison Gold.
hell of a video to go out on, have a good break
Crazy how this might be your last video. I know you said it's a hiatus but if this does become your last video for awhile I am so dam you ended it with such a great video.
I thought it was adorable back then, it was so weird but I enjoyed it. I'm just glad that Rebecca Black's doing fine.
I used to watch your videos a lot, but then you disappeared from the scene. I hope you're doing OK these days. I really enjoyed your videos, especially the intelligence and common sense they displayed. We need that now more than ever now. I'd love to see you active again online, but, whatever you're doing now or are going to do, I wish you the best of luck.
I still remember to this day where I was when I heard it for the first time....outside a Robertos during lunch time at my first office job. It was a groundbreaking cultural shift moment for sure.
I miss this channel. Feels like it's been way longer than ~2 years.
God the nostalgia just hit me in the guts.
Good breakdown.
I can't help see how the perspective and hatred of the crowd was delusional and didn't line up with the reality of the situation.
Scapegoating and groundless hatred is too common in human history.
I think there is a deeper lesson to be learned here and this video is just the beginning.
That ending didn’t age well.
“Hopefully we’ll have a great decade in the 20’s”
I've always completely unironically liked "Friday" from the first time I heard it until now. It's never been of my favorite songs, but I legitimately find it fun and pleasant, and it's delightful to listen to on a Friday when you're...you know, 'looking forward to the weekend.'
That ending was beautiful
Sometimes I feel like nothing has really changed in the last 10 years, but then I see this video and realize just how much really has changed in the last decade. Not just on UA-cam but throughout the world. And then I feel old. :-P
6:00
Friday was basically a mid-range phone. Not-quite-flagship.
So you're saying that this girl accidentally revolutionised UA-cam? wow dude that actually dope
I was her age when this song came out. Our English teacher had us all watch it and view the comments to show us how lasting and impactful the internet will be on us personally. She warned us that whatever we put online will be used against us when getting jobs or looking for a date. I wish we believed her. She was very prophetic about the internet for a 60 year old
Now we have the times we can't even read some useful comments about good old videos, because half of them are "who is watching in [insert the current year here]?". It seems we've already learned how to make a pretty content on YT, but still don't know how to properly respond to them.
this took a dark turn
You hit the nail on the head about UA-cam not being polished, and that was the draw, and that's exactly why UA-cam is losing its good content creators because they only want mainstream polished content that they can profit off of not unique and entertaining content
"And hopefully we have a pretty good decade ahead of us in the ’20s."
Yeah, about that… XD
Just found this channel today, sad that it's no longer active. Hope you guys are doing well!
RIP Paul Vasquez, Double Rainbow Guy
I vaguely heard about this song (not heard it) at the time and just figured I was hearing about the latest commercial pop bullshit, which I always ignore. So this is not a trip down memory lane for me, you've just explained something that I never even knew was such a big thing. In fact, this is the first time I've seen Ms Black or any of the video. It's moments like these I'm glad I don't waste my attention to shit like this, LOL.
I have not heard this song nor did I seen the video, until today.
At the time I had been working for a company that while not doing the same level of production was teaching teens and young adults to write simple songs in bands and we would give them a video of a live performance at the end of their summer camp and I was terrified we were going to inflict this on one them.
the music she's put out pretty recently is actually pretty good. :)
I'm glad she's well, but I'm not gonna lie; her voice was pretty awful.
Wasn't even her voice, the producer literally auto tuned her voice to one one note, hence the monotone a tire of the song.
@@jamesbryant8087 huh. I was more talking about her nasally voice, but that probably didn't help either.
Loved the subtle weezer reference lol
My favourite thing that came out of Friday was a parody with 1 line in a russian accent "everybody's Rushin'"
I can't believe you didn't upload this on a Friday!
He literally did just that, check the upload date.
@@whatevsidcIt's still Thursday the 30th in my Time zone.
Sean L lol same. He’s from the future.
I am far earlier than I expected. The likes and dislikes are still at zero. I'm gonna watch the video now.
I find it ironic you played Pork & Beans, an early viral online music video for an incredibly massive rock band, as a backing track to your argument that Popular music videos were not popular online, lol
Regardless, amazing video. Waited until now to watch it, mostly because I was bummed from the channel ending, but it's certainly one of your more tightly written and edited videos. Hope you come back again soon!
When you hear the piano riff to Pork and Beans 😳😳😳
The hopefulness at 12:29 already aged horrifically.
My man I can really tell how young you are with videos like this. In 2011 we pined for the early 2000s internet the same way. It's just the bias we have for the past vs the future because we remember the good times more than the bad.
This made me nostalgic.
I mean a whole Decade went by. I can still remember the time i watched MysteryGuitarMan, Rhett&Link,Stop motion animation, Lego tutorials and even Pewds. Even then youtube still changed. From a whacky experiemental bag of fun then came challenges like the ice bucket challenge,HowtoBasic then FilthyFrank,idubbz. More Disgusting Hardcore Punk like content appeared then it lead up to now. This really has been a true Decade closer as i spend most of my time on Yt as a child till now. I hope YT morph into something great in the future. No more ad-pocalypse, no more censorship and please no more Supressing of channels. I have subscribed to a lot of channel during the years and it really pains me when a channel of mine just dissapears. The community is strong. But UA-cam Right now needs to change for the better. No more hiding information and no more bots. I even have an idea to make a vimeo/dailymotion/Bitchute Combination to compete against YT. I want a place where video sharing is ok just like the old times.