What if the Industrial Revolution Never Happened? (Ft. List 25)

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  • @list25
    @list25 8 років тому +978

    Thank you for the collab! We really had fun working with you and the final product is AWESOME!

    • @jaymar4438
      @jaymar4438 8 років тому +3

      hola

    • @turtledude83
      @turtledude83 8 років тому +4

      :D

    • @dapenguin4637
      @dapenguin4637 8 років тому +6

      You suck

    • @captain1254
      @captain1254 8 років тому +6

      +list25 please acquire a better mic, it really hurt the production.. other than that, glad to have you on here

    • @skreb7336
      @skreb7336 8 років тому +3

      Yay two of my favorite channels

  • @josephstalin8423
    @josephstalin8423 8 років тому +3359

    Only 1700s and 1800s kids will understand this.

  • @gcircle
    @gcircle 8 років тому +731

    So basically...we would stay in pre-industrial technology. Surprise.

    • @captainvanhorn773
      @captainvanhorn773 5 років тому +36

      What an idea, why didn't I think of that

    • @aurelia8028
      @aurelia8028 5 років тому +24

      No thank you. I like everything about the modern world and no amount of whining about the enviroment will make me give that up

    • @mateovazquez6685
      @mateovazquez6685 4 роки тому +11

      @@aurelia8028 Hahaha nobody talked about that

    • @JakubWojciechowski933
      @JakubWojciechowski933 4 роки тому +7

      Yeah exactly. Why did he almost didn't tackle on the topics of the actual things that happened in the world and wouldn't because of the Revolution?

    • @bruh-db8by
      @bruh-db8by 2 роки тому

      @@aurelia8028 so you like corporations and big government breathing down your neck watching every movement, and more than 50% of workers feeling unsatisfied due to a lack of genuine impactful work? bro keep living in ignorance, contributing to the death of nature, individuality, and human creativity. the chances are high you provide nothing genuine to this world, and you're not even a gear but the grease in the machine

  • @wojtekimbier
    @wojtekimbier 8 років тому +277

    But wait! Wasn't industrial revolution inevitable? Wouldn't machines be built eventually?
    -Billy

    • @gittevandevelde2208
      @gittevandevelde2208 6 років тому +16

      Well, no, actually. Mechanics were already a thing for centuries, and happened everywhere. But actual machines and industrialization basically only existed in Europe for a while and came to exist because of the bad living conditions: after the black plague in the 14 century it regularly returned so there was quite a bit of population lack. People needed machines to do the work, as there weren't people to do so. And before we knew it...Boom industry.

    • @BeverlySchnett
      @BeverlySchnett 6 років тому +1

      it could be possible to focus more on the mechanization of agriculture than on industry so that a farmer could produce with machines more food and he does not need the support of animals and other humans. or somewhere in teh 19th century the ordinary people overthrow their "capitalist" elites and run the fabrics and the economy by tehmselves

    • @bleachlasagna3341
      @bleachlasagna3341 5 років тому +2

      wojtekimbier
      Gosh darn it billy

    • @lokenontherange
      @lokenontherange 5 років тому

      Not if you have a cheap enough labour force that would result in mechanisation not being worthwhile economically. It happened mostly because the cost of labour in England became weirdly high and subsequently replacing that labour force became a handy plan. This video's biggest problem is that it forgets that.

    • @Dac_DT_MKD
      @Dac_DT_MKD 4 роки тому

      Well the industrial revolution could've happened in ancient Greece but the dude who invented the steam engine (Aeolipile) gave up on it.

  • @elfboi523
    @elfboi523 8 років тому +437

    What if the Neolithic Revolution never happened? We'd all be nomadic tribes of hunter-gatherers. No alternative history, in fact, no history at all, because no writing. :P

    • @elfboi523
      @elfboi523 8 років тому +11

      The Unknown
      Don't forget wild starchy roots and tubers, grass seeds, wild honey, fish, clams, crabs, shrimp, snails, locusts, whatever happens to be available and edible.

    • @kaukolaurila9861
      @kaukolaurila9861 8 років тому +14

      elfboi523 Then what the hell are cave paintings other than history, thus writing...? A good point otherwise, though.

    • @elfboi523
      @elfboi523 8 років тому +3

      The Unknown
      Most children dying before their 5th birthday. Most of those who live long enough to grow up dying before the age of 60. There are still places on this planet where that's quite common.

    • @elfboi523
      @elfboi523 8 років тому +1

      The Unknown
      They usually wouldn't attack an able adult human though, just children and elderly people. And humans would stick together in groups most of the time, keeping their young and old people safe.
      As long as there is easier prey than humans, there isn't much danger, except from a few individual predators with a taste for manflesh. And those can be identified and killed.
      Remember, we co-evolved with African predators, and as soon as you can organise a group and make flint-tipped spears, you can kill enough of them to make the survivors look for different prey. You might lose a few thrillseeking adolescent boys and young adult men hunting down the man-eaters, but later generations of predators wouldn't be as likely to hunt humans. A single human, however, or a small number of mostly children and/or old people, would attract predators, and therefore, situations like that were avoided by sticking together.
      Once the predators know that it isn't safe to get too close to a human tribe, you can be pretty safe just by singing and dancing around the campfire at night, to show off your presence and your strength. Every once in a while, one of your people will get eaten, well, bad luck.
      You'll have more children killed by sickness or hunger than by predators. A lot more. And you'll still have population growth as long as there is enough fertile land to be explored.
      Once the Neolithic Revolution takes hold, predators become a huge problem: Sheep, cattle, chickens, pigs, all those are much easier to prey on than their wild ancestors. That's why farmers always want to hunt all the predators to extinction, and to hell with the ecology. Now we have human hunters trying to regulate wild animal populations as good as we can (which means, badly), because we're the only apex predators left. We've got far too many deer and wild boars here in Germany, because the few dozen wolves living in a few locations just can't take care of them. Yet farmers keep shooting or poisoning wolves, even if they might go to prison if they're caught.

    • @VCYT
      @VCYT 8 років тому +1

      That sounds like America after the 2016 election.

  • @michaelhyams632
    @michaelhyams632 8 років тому +769

    Basically, we would live like the Amish.

  • @johnroy5169
    @johnroy5169 8 років тому +254

    OMG PERFECT TIMING!!!!! We are just starting the Industrial Revolution in school and I can use some facts you state to show off to the class :D no hour-long documentaries this chapter!

    • @bobtheflyingdonkey
      @bobtheflyingdonkey 8 років тому

      Not so great timing for me bc we just finished the chapter on development in AP human geography. ):

    • @johnroy5169
      @johnroy5169 8 років тому

      bobtheflyingdonkey :/

    • @robdog7
      @robdog7 8 років тому

      I just finished my section on it :(

    • @MrMinerGuy142
      @MrMinerGuy142 8 років тому

      +bobtheflyingdonkey AP US History is already deep into the Cold War for me so....fuck...

    • @aggbak1
      @aggbak1 8 років тому

      same here

  • @joshuapartridge5092
    @joshuapartridge5092 4 роки тому +32

    A huge factor sort of glossed over here, is that the initial need for coal was driven by a need for fuel for fireplaces and furnaces because agriculture had cut down most of the trees in england. So, the initial spark was actually resource scarcity imo

    • @TheDiner50
      @TheDiner50 27 днів тому +1

      Yup. That is a giant factor. The fact is that allot of forest where depleted in both Britain and central Europe. Even talks about how there should actually be some sort of rain forests jungles in Scotland, but all the wood was cut down.
      England needed wood for ship building and houses. Fuel to keep warm and everything. And the rich would need hunting grounds. So some woods had to be kept around for the hunting fun of the rich... All the mining and manufacturing would lead to invention of steam. In many ways the cannons are the thing that prepared allot of the casting and pressure knowledge needed to make metal do mechanical work. Wars pulled horses out of the job of being a stationary engine. Horses needs food and care. A steam engine can pump water out of a mine all day all night. And in a coal mine the fuel to run early steam engines where pretty much a none issue.

  • @aliaselysum4401
    @aliaselysum4401 8 років тому +178

    "Faster and cheaper than in China" not something that will ever happen again

    • @Mystic-Dust
      @Mystic-Dust 7 років тому +6

      Can't really say they're collapsing. It gets old after people kept saying for decades, it's like saying the apocalypse will happen, then it doesn't happen.

    • @os8mm178
      @os8mm178 5 років тому +2

      No labor laws means cheap production

    • @phoenixfeather1337
      @phoenixfeather1337 4 роки тому +1

      Will now lol

    • @syghdeaar4753
      @syghdeaar4753 3 роки тому +2

      @@os8mm178 dude china is booming right now have you seen pictures of it they look like every stock photo of a futuristic city minus the flying cars its sick

  • @sherifelsharkawyful
    @sherifelsharkawyful 8 років тому +195

    Also guys, when you talked about the UK in the year 1760 you used the wrong flag, the Union Flag wouldn't have had the red stripe over the white stripes since that didn't occur until the Act of Union of 1801.

    • @chair7573
      @chair7573 8 років тому +1

      17?0-1860

    • @sherifelsharkawyful
      @sherifelsharkawyful 8 років тому

      Illium What?

    • @bluegravestone58
      @bluegravestone58 8 років тому +2

      I'm pretty sure it happened in 1707

    • @sherifelsharkawyful
      @sherifelsharkawyful 8 років тому +15

      ***** There was an Act of Union in 1707, but it was the one that unified Scotland and England, not Ireland and the United Kingdom. The Union flag was born in 1707, but it didn't have the saltire of St Patrick(the red 'x' running over the white 'x') until 1801.

    • @CupidFromKentucky
      @CupidFromKentucky 8 років тому +3

      +Kyle Edwards Talk when you're sure not pretty sure.

  • @DakkogiRauru23
    @DakkogiRauru23 8 років тому +139

    My guess is that countries would have remained less stable, including the United States. Because of the vast distance, it would have been much easier for a Union to break up or change structurally.
    However, I still imagine an age of sail, just not an age of colonization.

    • @dv9239
      @dv9239 4 роки тому +11

      Large kingdoms existed way before industrialization
      Like mughal empire in India

    • @DakkogiRauru23
      @DakkogiRauru23 4 роки тому +1

      the mysterious Which collapsed

    • @dv9239
      @dv9239 4 роки тому

      @@DakkogiRauru23 yes because of many things happening at right time but there are many that succeeded tho
      American kingdom could've been one

    • @DakkogiRauru23
      @DakkogiRauru23 4 роки тому +3

      the mysterious Not really. See, before industrialization, there was no way to produce more food to feed a growing population as much as we have today. There also wasn’t a free market that could address shortages via trade. The state owned everything.
      Whenever a state started lacking in resources, which was all the time, the only solution was to concur another territory and extract its resources.
      This led to frequent collapse of kingdoms, no matter how long lived they were.
      Frequent collapse is the opposite of stable.

    • @qui-gonjim6440
      @qui-gonjim6440 3 роки тому +5

      @@DakkogiRauru23 and yet the Roman Empire and Egyptian kingdoms lasted for millennia, not quite a series of "frequent collapses".
      There are no rules to history that happen 100% of the time if certain conditions are met.

  • @kyrakia5507
    @kyrakia5507 7 років тому +2

    I cannot imagine two more different youtubers making a collab together, but it somehow worked, so props to you

  • @Cafferssss
    @Cafferssss 8 років тому +302

    well, the environment would be happier for sure......

    • @romulusnuma116
      @romulusnuma116 8 років тому

      Probably

    • @itsjustnils
      @itsjustnils 8 років тому +23

      +FantasticMr.Fox Not really that much, if nothing changed every home would burn coal/wood for heat and not use electricity wich would be almost the same if not more hurtfull for the environment

    • @davidlewis6728
      @davidlewis6728 8 років тому +7

      +FantasticMr.Fox the environment would be safer, the population wouldn't be happier. you are referring to global warming, a thing, don't pretend it can have feelings. (also, fossil fuels are going to be replaced hopefully soon, pretend the earth has entered it's teen years and started smoking like crazy, but then the e-cig (or something else) happened in a few years... that. or young death :P)

    • @felipevasconcelos6736
      @felipevasconcelos6736 8 років тому +16

      Farming really impacts the environment. Animals fart methane, and agriculture take lots of space, replacing forests, plains, jungles, etc.

    • @CasperVanLaar
      @CasperVanLaar 8 років тому

      +I ItsJustNils I no wrong.

  • @NineDollars9D
    @NineDollars9D 8 років тому +234

    What if Persia (Modern-day Iran) never converted to Islam?

    • @Awakeningspirit20
      @Awakeningspirit20 7 років тому +31

      The world would be a better place... it's not even Iran's fault, people in Iran today seem to love their country as the Islamic Republic, but it's just Iran's crazy relationship with, well, everyone else... Iran and America hate each other so much it makes the situation in the Middle East a lot more difficult.

    • @fulcrum2951
      @fulcrum2951 6 років тому +13

      awakeningspirit20 well who's fault was it then that cause the coup de that that created the unnecessary monarchy in iran in the first place to pissed off the iranians then?

    • @BeverlySchnett
      @BeverlySchnett 6 років тому

      we would fight against Zoroastrism as the Greek and Romans did

    • @harisjutt69
      @harisjutt69 4 роки тому

      @rétro that comment was 1 year old why did u even bother to correct him?

    • @cherkas009
      @cherkas009 4 роки тому

      They have a splinter group form of Islam so in a sense they never had true Islam in iran

  • @grumpiesttitan7930
    @grumpiesttitan7930 3 роки тому +19

    Industrial society and it's consequences

  • @charleskidd2028
    @charleskidd2028 8 років тому +4

    I seriously just had a huge conversation about this two days ago and Cody and I said the EXACT SAME STUFF. This is so cool. It's awesome hearing support on how realistic an alternative scenario is.

  • @Guitarfollower22
    @Guitarfollower22 8 років тому +14

    Perfect timing. I have one week to write a college paper about the Industrial Revolution, gonna steal your stuff. Thanks bra

  • @brendanfligger1669
    @brendanfligger1669 8 років тому +107

    What if Gunpowder was never invented?

    • @StuziCamis
      @StuziCamis 8 років тому +5

      Yes! This is an amazing idea! :D

    • @appaloosahill4499
      @appaloosahill4499 8 років тому +9

      What if Britain never colonized American

    • @gr7476
      @gr7476 7 років тому +6

      Brendan Fligger that was already done

    • @derekv1183
      @derekv1183 7 років тому +4

      Brendan Fligger What if There was no pollution.

    • @KentPetersonmoney
      @KentPetersonmoney 4 місяці тому

      American revolutionary war would have been fought with bow and arrows.

  • @MVSSENJU
    @MVSSENJU 8 років тому +116

    Do a: What if the Portuguese never explored the world? Could europe be discovered by the Indians or Chinese? Or even by the Astecs? How the world would have been nowadays?

    • @calebtimes453
      @calebtimes453 7 років тому +11

      Or if Portugal was united with Spain and never left from the middle ages onwards.

    • @Awakeningspirit20
      @Awakeningspirit20 7 років тому +36

      India and China already knew Europe before Portugal, they were trading back in Roman times. Do you mean the Americas?

    • @ottovonbisquick6996
      @ottovonbisquick6996 6 років тому +1

      awakeningspirit20 yeah your right because In 100 c.e (a.d) the Indians had been in the Silk Road along with the Chinese

    • @ycasto1063
      @ycasto1063 6 років тому +4

      Somebody would take their place probably the Spanish or the French, maybe the Hanseatic cities or Venetians will be their rivals

    • @juanfranciscocosta5387
      @juanfranciscocosta5387 6 років тому +3

      There wouldn't be a Tordesillas Treaty, meaning the world wouldn't be divided between Castille and Portugal. Since Portuguese domain in Brazilian coasts was legitimized by this treaty, and Castille's discovery of the Americas had more to do with Columbus getting information from Aragonese fishermen, I believe that would result in Spaniards total control of South America and the Caribbean. The stablishment of trading points in India and China are a whole different topic. I imagine any European potency would have arrived sooner or later.

  • @lowmandave
    @lowmandave 4 роки тому +9

    Michigander here. We may go to war with Ohio for many other reasons, but in the pop vs. soda battle, we and our buckeye brethren fight as one.

    • @imperiumromanum7375
      @imperiumromanum7375 3 роки тому +2

      My dad won't even buy Ice Cream if it's made in Michigan

  • @gifyifhkhmcucyk6865
    @gifyifhkhmcucyk6865 5 років тому +100

    This video title: *exists *
    Ted Kaczynski: hold my pipe bomb

  • @p..._...p6437
    @p..._...p6437 8 років тому +127

    What if Britain sided with the central powers in World War One?

    • @flamingtrashcans9502
      @flamingtrashcans9502 8 років тому

      Yes

    • @minecraft4blt
      @minecraft4blt 8 років тому

      Very unlikely, yet intriguing nevertheless.

    • @shrekdank3473
      @shrekdank3473 8 років тому +12

      +Brandoosky well if Germany never went through Belgium we probably would of

    • @shrekdank3473
      @shrekdank3473 8 років тому

      +Shrek Dank *have

    • @ray_99
      @ray_99 8 років тому

      Unlikely just because they had a few wars against the US and France wouldn't make them not side which us

  • @antaine1916
    @antaine1916 5 років тому +35

    "...how society changed so quickly and in such a quick amount of time..."
    Does "quickly" mean anything other than "in a quick amount of time"?

  • @numberneinlarge9965
    @numberneinlarge9965 3 роки тому +39

    Ted Kaczynski approves of this video

  • @BigBobsh2o
    @BigBobsh2o 8 років тому +96

    On the bright side global warming wouldn't exist and the environment as a whole would be a lot cleaner.

    • @kalyanarc4467
      @kalyanarc4467 8 років тому +26

      +Rob Ski You want another bright side ??
      No capitalism. Wealth would remain balanced in all classes, and generally, employance would not be such a problem, meaning that no man would be starving.
      Also, since colonisation is absent, Africa would remain untouched and nobody would take its resources, meaning that you wouldn't have children in Africa starving.
      Cultures rarely meet, globalisation would not even be a thing, ammunition would not have been made in such ammounts, ideas would not spread and people would revolt much less, meaning that, generally, there would be less wars and less bloodshed.
      I also belive that, even without medicine, people would not die or be sick from diseases that much, because people travel much less without modern transport, and so, diseases themselves would have hard time spreading.
      And yes, we would have healthier people and safer enviroment, because, besides global warming, air pollution that has strong effect on pulmonary diseases (asthma, bronchitis, even lung cancer) would be absent.
      There would be no drugs, because they wouldn't be able to travel from distant parts in Asia and South America.
      There would be no tobacco, too, reasulting in, again, healthier population.
      I see a brither world without Industrial Revolution.

    • @BigBobsh2o
      @BigBobsh2o 8 років тому +16

      Samsung Galaxy Good points. Although I think the tobacco trade began before the industrial revolution. And I think our life expectancy would be much shorter and our health care system would be a total joke by today's standards.

    • @kalyanarc4467
      @kalyanarc4467 8 років тому

      +Rob Ski Yah you're right, I said it wrongly. Sure, there would BE tobacco, but it wouldn't be able to TRAVEL so quickly without steamboats and trains.

    • @googane7755
      @googane7755 8 років тому +1

      +Samsung Galaxy Good points but then we're forcing ourselves to be blissfully ignorant. No future or past, who knows, maybe it's a good thing.

    • @gr7476
      @gr7476 7 років тому +20

      Kalyan Arc without the industrial revolution the agricultural revolution wouldn’t progress as much and there would be much less food so there would still be a lot of starvation when disasters struck

  • @stevemcdigstraightdown2404
    @stevemcdigstraightdown2404 5 років тому +19

    Cody “Just doesn’t happen” Alternate History

  • @Joinky11
    @Joinky11 2 роки тому +6

    We would all be happy and content

    • @JubulusPrime
      @JubulusPrime Рік тому +1

      Yeah, Under capitalism we are all slaves to desire, Saving up for the next new toy is the only thing that keeps us going.
      I don't want mindless consumption anymore, I just want to be happy. . .

  • @Lucy-ng7cw
    @Lucy-ng7cw 8 років тому +160

    Not liking having list25 on this....

    • @Music_games_history
      @Music_games_history 8 років тому +22

      Why

    • @Lucy-ng7cw
      @Lucy-ng7cw 8 років тому +51

      Cool cat saves the kids From crippling depression thats really going to help kids from crippling depression

    • @ApocalypticTards
      @ApocalypticTards 8 років тому +6

      +Cool cat saves the kids From crippling depression Seriously, fuck off.

    • @daraj02
      @daraj02 8 років тому +1

      +Cool cat saves the kids From crippling depression MY NAME IS COOL CAT AND I LOVE ALL KIDS
      I LOVE BABIES
      THEY'RE PAINTING ON SOMEONE'S WALL AND IT'S NOT COOL TO PAINT ON SOMEONE'S WALL

    • @daraj02
      @daraj02 8 років тому

      +Sharqueesha Johnalaneesha *IHE

  • @lordofbrokenplains6952
    @lordofbrokenplains6952 8 років тому +5

    "Thank you good King jolly jolly what what" had me laughing. Seriously though, this was an interesting one..

  • @christianch5037
    @christianch5037 8 років тому +61

    Hey AlternateHistoryHub!
    Being an Armenian, I've always been fascinated by everything Armenian, specifically their wars. Just in case you didn't know (which I highly doubt), Turkey, and Armenia have sort of been in a feud. In the early 1900's, due to religious differences and jealousy, over a million Turkish-Armenians were massacred in an unrecognized genocide. I was wondering:
    -What if the Armenian Genocide never happened?
    I know for a fact that Adolf Hitler actually brought up the Armenian Genocide to convince people on how no one would realize the Jewish people would be exterminated, and I'm sure a lot more would have happened if the genocide never took place.
    Since the Armenian Genocide remembrance day is this coming April 24th, I was hoping you could possibly make a video about it.
    Sincerely
    ~A random internet person

    • @christianch5037
      @christianch5037 8 років тому +1

      Here's a link explaining it all: www.armenian-genocide.org/ottoman.html

    • @Awakeningspirit20
      @Awakeningspirit20 7 років тому +1

      Turks still don't recognize it to this day, so sad. Yes I believe the genocide inspired both Hitler and Stalin.

    • @CraftQueenJr
      @CraftQueenJr 7 років тому

      Death shall come in droves good idea!
      Ps. Love the username!

    • @tanmayawahal1160
      @tanmayawahal1160 6 років тому

      Everytime you said Armenian, I read American

    • @savyor9985
      @savyor9985 6 років тому

      exactly right, The Assyrians and Greeks heck even the Armenians never rebelled against the ottomans and were basically murdered for no reason other than being Christians, the fact that the turkish government today denies the existence of these genocides means these pieces of shit in power are no different than the ottomans

  • @matthewprice8362
    @matthewprice8362 8 років тому +12

    This actually sounds a lot nicer than real life

    • @RedSunUnderParadise
      @RedSunUnderParadise Рік тому +6

      Poor transportation logistics and medical tech slowly progressing sounds like a lot of fun for you, I bet.

    • @eduardsusai559
      @eduardsusai559 Рік тому +2

      @@RedSunUnderParadise yes. Yes it does liberal

    • @RedSunUnderParadise
      @RedSunUnderParadise Рік тому +1

      @@eduardsusai559
      Another Hippie luddite being wrong.

  • @benjigoulbourne
    @benjigoulbourne 7 років тому +6

    9:22
    "less people around to talk to"
    sounds good to me

  • @christopherwinne5434
    @christopherwinne5434 8 років тому +20

    "Without steam engines, factories are left dependent on rivers to turn their turbines. Like Barbarians." I laughed.

  • @stephenw.4390
    @stephenw.4390 8 років тому +7

    I think you should do something about if an industrial revolution happened on the 1st century. There was actually a Greek scientist screwing around with a miniature steam engine IN THE 1st CENTURY! cool

    • @AlDuke14
      @AlDuke14 8 років тому

      I would LOVE that video!!!!

    • @Elvesflame
      @Elvesflame 8 років тому

      +Steve Chadwarz The Greeks also invented an early analog computer. Ever heard of the Antikythera?

    • @stephenw.4390
      @stephenw.4390 8 років тому

      +Elvesflame I have! It was found in a ancient ship, wasn't it?

    • @Elvesflame
      @Elvesflame 8 років тому

      Steve Chadwarz Yup, at the bottom of the sea

  • @fezdalek
    @fezdalek 8 років тому +4

    If the Industrial Revolution never happened,there would be no dank memes,and there would be no reasons for me to exist.

    • @ebonyaxe
      @ebonyaxe 8 років тому +3

      Born too late to explore the earth. Born too early to explore the galaxy. Born just in time to browsr dank memes.

  • @SuperGman117
    @SuperGman117 8 років тому +20

    What if, at the end of WW2, Germany wasn't split, and instead was a single, neutral country left to its own devices?

    • @wampower6848
      @wampower6848 8 років тому +4

      It would probably just become wedded to the West and America after the Marshall plan rained money on it like in our time line with West Germany. The Soviet Union would have a wall on the border of Poland, not Germany.

    • @wisemankugelmemicus1701
      @wisemankugelmemicus1701 4 роки тому

      @@wampower6848 there probably wouldn't have been a wall at all. There was no wall in East Germany, but East Berlin, which was far beyond the East German border. Berlin is on an island. So it's much easier to wall off than an extensive 290 mile border.
      That being said they actually got close. 2 walls both roughly 82 miles. Maybe they could have done it if enough Poles defected, but certainly not overnight.

  • @TheWiking982
    @TheWiking982 4 роки тому +5

    The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a major catastrophe for the human race... ~ Teddy K.

  • @mm-ez6xn
    @mm-ez6xn 5 років тому +25

    Then the creepy Valve-in-back-of-head guy from the intro to steam games wouldn't exist.

  • @imanukekaboom3715
    @imanukekaboom3715 7 років тому

    Probably one of my favorite of your videos. Keep it up!

  • @Lands_Verader
    @Lands_Verader 8 років тому +37

    I have a suggestion.
    What if Leon Trotsky took power after lenin died (not Stalin)?

    • @CatMaster90001
      @CatMaster90001 8 років тому +6

      As an avid communist myself, I wholeheartedly support this suggestion. The future of communism would be far different if Lenin's final wishes to put Trotsky in charge of the USSR were respected.

    • @gifyifhkhmcucyk6865
      @gifyifhkhmcucyk6865 5 років тому +2

      @@CatMaster90001 comrade🚩⚒

    • @phasmas1803
      @phasmas1803 4 роки тому +2

      Task completed successfully

    • @123dan165
      @123dan165 4 роки тому +1

      that question is answered in the video ''What if Stalin never rose to power?''

  • @CosmicDalmatian
    @CosmicDalmatian 2 роки тому +6

    The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.

  • @Gigas0101
    @Gigas0101 8 років тому +1

    Could you cover another WW1 scenario? Mainly what if "Halt in Belgrade" occurred and Austria-Hungary was able to mobilize fast enough to invade and occupy Belgrade after the death of Archduke Ferdinand.
    Also this video was amazing, thanks for making it and collaborating with List 25!

  • @orthodoxcrusader8568
    @orthodoxcrusader8568 3 роки тому +3

    Basically we wouldn't be choking on air

  • @richhornie7000
    @richhornie7000 3 роки тому +3

    Working hours would be shorter than today and so is life expectancy. Value of life increases relative to today's and thereby a shorter living but happier society. Also no climate change to battle and thereby no massive extinction of life and destruction of environment in an unprecedented scale.

  • @TallGuyProds
    @TallGuyProds 2 роки тому +1

    Enjoyable intro and context, great setting of baseline (what WOULDN'T have happened without the Industrial Revolution) but I wish we had some takes on what WOULD have happened instead. Though that is incredibly more speculative.

  • @spike9653
    @spike9653 8 років тому +78

    what if England won the 100 years war instead of France?

    • @mayonaka558
      @mayonaka558 8 років тому +16

      Actually, the 100 Years War was a draw, neither country won.

    • @spike9653
      @spike9653 8 років тому +13

      SomeRandomHetalian Oh yeah my mistake. I just thought France won because they took back France from England.

    • @mayonaka558
      @mayonaka558 8 років тому +1

      Okay okay sorry *Hands in air, backing away*

    • @birdsqautchman1116
      @birdsqautchman1116 8 років тому +6

      what if public education was outlawed by government (today) and all those who sought education had to pay businesses or craftsmen to teach them skills, much like guilds and apprenticeships during renaissance.

    • @godemperorofmankind3.091
      @godemperorofmankind3.091 6 років тому +10

      @James what the hell does that mean? France held the line the entire time in WW1. and then theres the french resistance.

  • @josephstalin2829
    @josephstalin2829 8 років тому +47

    Powered by Steam.

    • @josephstalin2829
      @josephstalin2829 7 років тому +4

      I'm immortal

    • @os8mm178
      @os8mm178 5 років тому

      Another Stalin which one is imposter!?!?!?!?!?!?

    • @Robbie-pc1dl
      @Robbie-pc1dl 4 роки тому

      @@os8mm178 early among us player

  • @jackbelinski2661
    @jackbelinski2661 Рік тому +1

    It should be remembered that for most of the period of the Industrial Revolution, the majority of industries still relied on wind and water power as well as horse and man-power for driving small machines. In which case, without steam engines, there still technically would have been factories, just not steam powered ones. Instead they would have been sophisticated wind and water mills, as well as solar updraft engines like the one first proposed in 1903 by the Spanish Colonel Isidoro Cabanyes. There may have also been mills powered by geothermal steam vents, hence steam mills. Not to mention concepts like “Division of labor” and “Assembly lines” would still be applied. In short, mass production would still be possible.

  • @salokin3087
    @salokin3087 8 років тому +7

    What if China maintained its Imperial rule during the 19th and 20th century? Would have it fallen eventually or stay afloat as a major power?
    God i love this channel!

    • @papajack222
      @papajack222 8 років тому +1

      +Salokin Sekwah He already did the russian revolution and the hannibal thing.

    • @salokin3087
      @salokin3087 8 років тому

      +papajack222 Thanks!

  • @adamthornton7880
    @adamthornton7880 8 років тому +5

    This is basically the future Thomas Malthus was afraid of.

  • @alijan2903
    @alijan2903 5 років тому

    I love the animation of the video so much as I have been through it all but I have got to chat with the concept of this story

  • @h.e.riddleton1373
    @h.e.riddleton1373 2 роки тому +3

    You left out an important aspect of UK prosperity: colonization. The British lived in their own shit and could barely figure out how to use chimneys before the Portugese provided a model for colonization. Exploiting, raping, murdering, and stealing from indigenous peoples of the Americas, as well as kidnapping people from West Africa and forcing them into labor, enabled vast agricultural advancements in food production and enabled economic flexibility and scientific patronage. So yeah... the Industrial Revolution happened on the backs of Indigenous people and enslaved Africans. Also, Industrial Revolution has been the primary historical contributer to the climate crisis. Though, I enjoy the comforts that came from it... maybe, in an alternative universe, maybe without colonization of America and Africa and India... maybe someone could have invented industry with renewable resources... who knows? India was incredibly technologically advanced and experimentative. The earliest surgeries beyond trepanning happened in India. Many parts of Africa, like the Mali empire and the Benin Kingdom, were advanced as well. They invented Iron working before anyone else on this planet. The Aztec and Mayan Empires were artistically advanced and experimentative. Also, in the 13th century, in what is known today as Iraq, a great inventor was born: al-Jazari, known as the father of robotics. His automata were able to run on gear mechanics and water energy. No oil or coal needed. Maybe if these regions formed an alliance, with many of their belief systems bound by a connection with the earth rather than a Dominion over it (like cough cough Christianity), a better system could have been created that would have taken us into the modern world in a much healthier way. Be more creative next time. Also, you do know that history doesn't revolve around White people, right? Europe didn't save the world. It sadly, very possibly, doomed the world. I hope that you have grown in the past six years. As a White person who grew up in the US education system, I have been incredibly sheltered, conditioned by ideas of White Supremacy. I am still undoing this conditioning and becoming better. I hope you are too.

  • @Clee-os6pv
    @Clee-os6pv 8 років тому +7

    Cody you should do "What if the industrial revolution happened in China first?"

    • @identitycrisis4557
      @identitycrisis4557 8 років тому

      Nothing changes

    • @potato467
      @potato467 8 років тому +2

      either way they would still be the most industrial country today

    • @potato467
      @potato467 8 років тому

      +Eli Gutman I watch European news

    • @GamingSwampert
      @GamingSwampert 8 років тому

      +Starkiller ....usa is number one.

  • @michaelcutler5538
    @michaelcutler5538 8 років тому

    I get the best screen shots from this guy's videos

  • @lwalfrid
    @lwalfrid 8 років тому +3

    I've spent most of my spare time today, viewing your entertaining vids.
    Personally, I love studying alternate history by playing God-games - like Civilization.
    Being Scandinavian, I always play Viking. And I sometimes use my longboats to colonize the America's.
    This actually happened, but in our timeline the colonies were abandoned.
    So here's my proposition:
    WHAT IF... The Vikings extensively colonized the America's ? And held on to their colonies?

  • @barneypaws4883
    @barneypaws4883 4 роки тому +3

    The common Brit was living in poverty. The only Brit with money were the aristocrats.

  • @someguy1865
    @someguy1865 8 років тому +1

    dude you deserve more subs

  • @matthewcollins4764
    @matthewcollins4764 4 роки тому +7

    So it seems like it was simpler but more culture in individual areas and some atrocities such as African colonization and the horrible conditions factory workers faced were prevented sounds good to me. Although there would also be the absence of modern medicine but the obesity epidemic would be avoided.

  • @imperiumromanum7375
    @imperiumromanum7375 3 роки тому +5

    Ah yes, this is what shaped our modern technological world

  • @MBKill3rCat
    @MBKill3rCat 8 років тому +1

    Here in the civilised world, we call it 'fizzy drink', or 'fizz' for short.

  • @martinb532
    @martinb532 8 років тому +6

    What if the AlternateHistoryHub channel Never existed?

  • @accountburner4714
    @accountburner4714 8 років тому +10

    What if the industrial revolution happened 100 years earlier

    • @hughb.b4069
      @hughb.b4069 8 років тому +1

      we'd be more advanced now probably

    • @MegaDuras
      @MegaDuras 8 років тому

      +Hugh B.B I heard that the industrial revolution could have happened several centuries earlier in China. But one of the key elements was missing. There is no water in the chinese coal mines so, no need for a steam engine. If it did happen the worl woul be quite different.

  • @Lin-ob2wz
    @Lin-ob2wz 7 років тому

    THNX HELPED ME ON MY POWERPOINT HAD NO IDEAS TIL I SAW DIS

  • @jxchu1056
    @jxchu1056 8 років тому +7

    2:13 who noticed that Chinas character had really small eyes 😂😂😂

  • @langskeppet9887
    @langskeppet9887 2 роки тому +8

    Ted k wouldn’t have to be based.

  • @edavenport93
    @edavenport93 7 років тому +1

    If the industrial revolution had never happened I wouldn't exist.

  • @Samuel_Brinkley
    @Samuel_Brinkley 2 роки тому +4

    Miners gathering coal: 😃
    Minors gathering coal: 😨

  • @joshuabeck5579
    @joshuabeck5579 2 роки тому +4

    I prefer this timeline.

  • @jackbelinski2661
    @jackbelinski2661 Рік тому +1

    One of these days, can you please do a video on What if Rome Industrialized?

  • @dragonshark504
    @dragonshark504 8 років тому +5

    Episode idea: what if we became a type 3 civilisation

    • @drakedarkstar4952
      @drakedarkstar4952 8 років тому

      type 3?

    • @TrickyTrickyFox
      @TrickyTrickyFox 8 років тому

      +Drake Darkstar interstellar.

    • @drakedarkstar4952
      @drakedarkstar4952 8 років тому

      +Занудный Лис that's a goog theory to think about,in my opinion we will become type 3 someday...

    • @TrickyTrickyFox
      @TrickyTrickyFox 8 років тому

      Ellin Bastas nah, faster. We'll start in around 10-15 years building up to it (2020 for moon colonies and 2025 colonies on Mars +-5 years), the other important things as planetary language, culture etc - would probably take about 30-40 years more (2050-2060 imo, where English, Russian or Chineese would become the dominating language in the world). However, if we speak about culture regardless of language - well, we already have a nice, fun and exciting mix all around the globe of pretty similar ideas working together to create something unique. Like hey, try looking at modern anime, that has a lot of story elements and character development on the same levels as western and slavic classics.
      Economy is a diffrent thing. While US does its good share of poking the fuck out of every country that is not an ally or doesn't have powerful allies - I have to admit, that in terms of unification that is a GOOD thing. It's nowhere good on its own and all of those 147 countries that suffered from US in the last ~70 years have their respective right to be angry about it, but still a work well done and deserves a slow clap.
      So for the economy - it's already unified in a way, that a country - doesn't really need to try gathering the most money, but instead doing it's best to balance import and export for a stable development. Well, apart from some examples, but again - nowhere near to the 1970-1980's situation for that matter.
      Why 200 years then? Well, we have an interesting situation going on in the world currently. On the one hand - NATO with military approach to unification. On the other hand EU with an economical approach. BRICS with economical and technologial alliance. G7 (can't get enough of lols from that tho; throwing out 1/6 of the Earth's surface is such a nice diplomatic step) with political approach. We have LOTS of organisations around the globe. Some - work like shit. Most work like shit for that matter (take a look at UN or OSCE for instance). So there will be more time spent on pulling the rug in different directions.
      But meh, I'm just a Russian, who lives in Europe, speaks three languages and loves history, culture and tries his best to understand the processess running around the globe. Just a part of an insanely large group of similar people with similar stories, that in NO WAY support everything I've just said by their example ;D.

    • @TrickyTrickyFox
      @TrickyTrickyFox 8 років тому

      ***** Estonian :). Studying German and Chezh at the moment just for personal funsies, but I'm too lazy to give that proper amounts of time xD.

  • @richyie2754
    @richyie2754 2 роки тому +5

    Unabomber has entered the chat

  • @jamescook5487
    @jamescook5487 2 роки тому +1

    I was drinking a dr pepper when he said the part about drinking a pop lol. It caught me off guard.

  • @australopithecus_lucis
    @australopithecus_lucis 2 роки тому +4

    "The agricultural society and its consequences have been a disaster for our society" - Ked Taczynski

  • @zoomerjack5435
    @zoomerjack5435 4 роки тому +5

    The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

    • @Frozo-nt2ky
      @Frozo-nt2ky 3 роки тому +3

      Industrialization is the reason you’re on your phone right now. Industrialization is the reason you have roof over your head and you don’t have to worry about dropping dead from just a cut. Industrialization is the best thing to happen since sliced bread

    • @pixel6698
      @pixel6698 3 роки тому +4

      @@Frozo-nt2ky Industrialization is the reason we are slowly killing the planet. Industrialization is the reason why people are so unhappy today. I would gladly trade my phone and house for a happy life on a farm, if I didn't know what a phone was I couldn't wish I had one

    • @Frozo-nt2ky
      @Frozo-nt2ky 3 роки тому +1

      @@pixel6698 “happy life on a farm?” Do you even know what industrialization did? It brought us modern medicine first of all. If you’ve ever had an infection in your life you can thank the Industrial Revolution for that. I can assume you have a nice life with a roof over your head and a good intake of food. Good luck getting that in the late 1600s. Not only that but slavery was rampant and you may very well have been sold off into another country to be tortured or forced to work.

    • @pixel6698
      @pixel6698 3 роки тому +2

      @@Frozo-nt2ky Yes I understand that a lot of good came with the Industrial revolution, however I believe it came far too quickly. The rapid development and industrialization has led to consequences the human race is still facing today. Colonialism and Imperialism was greatly pushed by the Industrial revolution and wars became insanely brutal because of it. Industrial Society is also a massive issue. Humans have been forced out of our natural communal groups into cities. We have gone from towns where everybody knew each other to massive cities where some don't even know their neighbors. It is one of the main reason people today are suffering from mental health issues. Industrialization is killing this planet. Trees are being cleared to make way for factories, plastic is ending up in the ocean, the air is being polluted, all to make a profit. Humans have a tendency to not think about long term consequences and I believe the Industrial Revolution has demonstrated this well.

    • @Frozo-nt2ky
      @Frozo-nt2ky 3 роки тому +2

      @@pixel6698 don’t act like the world wasn’t brutal before industrialization. In fact right now is the safest time to be alive, apart from Covid bringing the number down a little bit. Lifespan has increased from 20-30 years old to nearly 80 in most developed countries. Prior to the revolution it was not uncommon for the mortality rate of newborn babies to be as high as 75%. You probably don’t grasp just how bad it was back then and how privileged you are to live in such a good world now. Of course you glossed over the whole slavery and racism part, which you really shouldn’t

  • @loganstill4390
    @loganstill4390 8 років тому +1

    Cody your SO close to 1000000 subs

  • @freddyboy800
    @freddyboy800 8 років тому +4

    Love how 80%of the video isn't about the actual alternate timeline.

  • @CallsignBasilisk
    @CallsignBasilisk 8 років тому +50

    What if the Cold War never happened?

  • @Awakeningspirit20
    @Awakeningspirit20 4 роки тому

    I feel like there's a sort of post-industrial regression today. You talk about local farmers producing for locals back before industrialization... well, look at today and the localvore movement. It's like we're fleeing from industrialization. I think it would be neat if we eventually get to a point that returns us to the artisanship of pre-industrialization with the ease of industrialization. Where those local farmers really can produce for locals efficiently and healthily. Where industrial farming is phased out. Where we don't produce simply for the sake of doing so and reaping a profit, but strive to produce what we need and effectively. This would be a great future.

  • @moldova7857
    @moldova7857 2 роки тому +5

    I personally think it would be much better

    • @darshparikh1555
      @darshparikh1555 2 роки тому

      My guess is that the world would just eventually die out. Humans would go extinct. Diseases and other issues would soon become overwhelming, and the population would start to die out in various parts of the world. (Good that this didn't happen lol)

    • @moldova7857
      @moldova7857 2 роки тому +2

      @@darshparikh1555 People could develop in natural medicine and hygiene and live somewhat healthy. But with these industries our life is not only separated from nature, but we also depend on some monstrous gray buildings that we pay to give us food and heat. Humans are barely independent...

    • @darshparikh1555
      @darshparikh1555 2 роки тому +2

      @@moldova7857 ikr

    • @JubulusPrime
      @JubulusPrime Рік тому +1

      Like yeah, You wouldn't slave away with some immoral company or anything with this world

  • @neptune6852
    @neptune6852 8 років тому +4

    I have a suggestion: what if the 1960's vision of the future was correct.

  • @N8ThaGr8r
    @N8ThaGr8r Рік тому +1

    The biggest reason why Britain was the started the industrial revolution was the removal of the Commons. This forced most of the rual community to move to urban areas in order to survive, which increased the available labour pool for factories

  • @haydenheitter3507
    @haydenheitter3507 2 роки тому +8

    Industrial revolution and its consequences

  • @koukkoufos2000
    @koukkoufos2000 8 років тому +5

    What if nations had no borders?

    • @Lenny-uj4fk
      @Lenny-uj4fk 8 років тому

      Shit would happen.

    • @shadowjesus4293
      @shadowjesus4293 8 років тому

      there would be more than two world wars

    • @shadowjesus4293
      @shadowjesus4293 8 років тому

      also shittons of imperialism

    • @cyborg_v271
      @cyborg_v271 8 років тому

      Most of Europe ignores borders and its mostly fine - exception of UK of course

  • @pakistaniobama4212
    @pakistaniobama4212 7 років тому

    This really helped me on my econ debate about this, thanks!

  • @__europa
    @__europa Рік тому +5

    It will be 8 billion by 2025
    wrong

  • @bjrnarleevolden8101
    @bjrnarleevolden8101 Рік тому +4

    There's a Ted Kaczynski joke here somewhere...

  • @Tommzzes07_edits
    @Tommzzes07_edits 7 років тому

    This video taught me so much thank you!

  • @uhhhscizo6531
    @uhhhscizo6531 3 роки тому +6

    We would become a utopia

    • @АлексейТабаков-ы8в
      @АлексейТабаков-ы8в 3 роки тому

      Where you would die in your 20's, is that utopia?

    • @uhhhscizo6531
      @uhhhscizo6531 3 роки тому +2

      @@АлексейТабаков-ы8в how would I die in my 20s? In a war? The "enlightenment" was still before the industrial revolution, dumbass, so they didn't levy people anymore.

    • @IkarosDC
      @IkarosDC 2 роки тому +1

      @@АлексейТабаков-ы8в да, вопросы? Жизнь наполненная жизнью, а не соевым существованием, действительно лучше.

    • @АлексейТабаков-ы8в
      @АлексейТабаков-ы8в 2 роки тому +1

      @@IkarosDC К тебе у меня вопрос получше - что ты в интернете забыл тогда?

  • @cisco3111
    @cisco3111 8 років тому +9

    What if Napoleon succeed in his plan to invade Great Britain?

  • @Promethean_Knight
    @Promethean_Knight 8 років тому

    Cool video Cody. Perhaps one day you could do a ''what if the boxer rebellion never happened?''

  • @DeniseFisher422
    @DeniseFisher422 6 років тому +6

    Wonder if we time travelled back to that time and gave them clean electricity, would the earth ne cleaner today, or still the same

    • @justinsutton5005
      @justinsutton5005 4 роки тому

      It would not be. You gave them the technology but they do not have the technology to produce it. Thry would go to coal.

  • @4formsofMATTer
    @4formsofMATTer 8 років тому +6

    Unscramble these words!
    1.)PNEIS
    2.)HTIELR
    3.)NGGERI
    4.)BUTTSXE
    Did you get SPINE, LITHER,
    GINGER, and SUBTEXT?

    • @mrwildweasel
      @mrwildweasel 8 років тому

      +4formsofMATTer Lol

    • @AsymmetricalCrimes
      @AsymmetricalCrimes 8 років тому

      +4formsofMATTer You sir, are the oddest Bernie Sanders supporter I've seen yet. And I've seen quite alot on the internet.

  • @torvinentv5197
    @torvinentv5197 8 років тому

    Great videos I love all of them!

  • @slambam2665
    @slambam2665 2 роки тому +4

    *INDUSTRIAL SOCIETY*

  • @theroguenetwork1083
    @theroguenetwork1083 3 роки тому +3

    “Who has over 2 million subscribers”
    Modern day viewer: He did it, that crazy son of a bitch did it

  • @SyndicateBrink
    @SyndicateBrink 8 років тому

    This was great, love it

  • @mr.lello3339
    @mr.lello3339 8 років тому +5

    What if the Sino-Soviet Split never happened?

  • @Lostmc660
    @Lostmc660 8 років тому +7

    What if the Holy Roman Empire managed to centralize itself so it could be one united German nation

    • @antiochus87
      @antiochus87 3 роки тому

      @albert einstien What do any of those examples have to do with the suggested scenario? If anything all those examples are more similar to the Holy Roman Empire in its divided form. If you want a relevant example from the period then France is the obvious choice.
      There were the French Wars of Religion around Catholicism and Protestantism, but also if Germany (let's say the non-Italian part of the HRE) had been more unified, then Protestantism might not be as successful as that's where it started and initially picked up traction. Of course the Holy Roman Emperor (when it actually was an empire) had a habit of fighting with the Pope a lot, so it's just as plausible that a Holy Roman Empire might go Protestant instead, and Protestantism is even more successful. There's a lot that would change and it depends on how this scenario comes about, for much of modern European history the defining thing about Germany was its disunity, and it was the place the great powers fought their wars in Europe.

  • @thatradfailure5197
    @thatradfailure5197 8 років тому

    Convenient that my first time watching this channel is a collaboration LoLz

  • @Rkenichi
    @Rkenichi 7 років тому +1

    Hahaha I love how he uses the umbrella terms "Billy" and "Jimmy" to describe his viewers