@@SunsetNova you really dont want any company following Apple. Though many do. A majority of anti consumer trends like horrible repairability were initiated by Apple. Their semi monopoly with locked eco systems is also something other companies are trying to replicate. Samsung is going in that direction. Ironically a good chunk of performance for Apple also comes from that policy. A single chip for a single set of Hard and Software basically does that without any major development. Long story short Apple has already cost you a lot more money than you realize even if you dont buy anything from them. Current crackdowns by the EU for example are helping but only to slow it down.
I got the Dell Latitude 7440 with the i7 1365U CPU last year. I like it for my needs, Azure cloud management and Power BI. The 7.5 hours of max battery life if fine for me, but I wish this laptop was out a year ago to take advantage of the battery life of Lunar Lake. Hopefully, things will continue to advance by 2028 when I upgrade again for Intel & AMD.
Too expensive S14. In my country, the new Lunar Lake Zenbook S14 cost 700 USD more than the Meteor Lake Zenbook 14. While the Ryzen 9 AI HX370 Vivobook cost around 200 USD more than the Meteor Lake Zenbook 14.
Arc GPU is only enabled out of the box with Linux 6.12. It's not out yet. ALSO, Manjaro does not use the latest stuffs anymore, please try CachyOS next time, I GUARANTEE you that you will have a much more enjoyable time with it
If you are using an Arch derivative, linux-mainline will build the latest 6.12 (rc2 atm) and most things work on my Arc laptop (MSI Prestige 13 AI+ - very similarly specced as this Zenbook, but
Great device and great overall package. Best battery life and good performance but iGPU is just the best. How did you get this device though? It's not yet for sale in Germany 😅
@@Techtablets great review as usual since you were just testing the CPU performance I would suggest you include a more detailed battery performance, for example a full web browsing or gaming or watching contents until the battery is dead.
@@marklog6587 I call BS on that price. The i7 model is 1600€ over here, which translates to $1460 before taxes. There is no way the i9(!) model is significantly cheaper. The MSRP is $1500 at ASUS's website, btw. I just checked Best Buy and they sell the 16(!!!)GB model for $1400. Maybe you looked at a previous gen model?
Base m3pro 14inch absolutely stomps demolishes this piece of x86 garbage in every possible way lmao. And m4pro is around the corner with like 3x the performance of this lunar lake crap for like 2400euros. Who buys this x86 slow crap for 2100euros seriously🤡 M4pro BASE!! geekbench6 like 18_000 multi and 4000single, With a gpu that is 4070m lvl. And soo much better efficiency than lunar and arrow lake.
@lawrenceandrews4367 and @PKperformanceEU I've recently bought a macbook and am really struggling with it not reading/ corrupting all of my external drives (I had them formatted to exfat because I need to transfer them to windows regularly)... have either of you had this experience and if yes, how have you managed it?
Touchpad click is ridiculously hard, don't you think? I got mine today and it's very frustrating since you can only click in bottom half, if anything half way is far too firm to even both clicking in. tracking is great but the click is very annoying
Really you think so? I didn't notice this on my unit it seemed fine and if it was more difficult I would have noticed. Maybe see if you can RMA that one and get another?
This is intels m3. Basically same score, in cpu, in gpu, and equally efficient the both of them. Very interesting chip. Makes the windows laptop scene very straightforward. You want power get ryzen ai at higher wattage if possible, you want good battery and gpu, intel got you, you want a chromebook alternative get X plus.
Since these are all ultrabooks - I don't see a point until intel, taiwan or whoever else could finally come with a solid fanless radiator. I think that this chip could do it, but it needs a HARD 15W limit, not a "silent mode" that still cranks up to 25-35W or so. Fans are for 35-65W chips. Ultrabooks need fanless design. As long as Intel\AMD are trying to combine the two - apple would make fun of them. They wouldn't always compare the scores, but they would always be ahead in convenience.
Switched from a Windows 11 Ultrabook to a Chromebook and haven't really missed anything. Find out very quickly that I can do pretty much everything in the cloud with web apps.
My issue there is pretty soon Chrome will no longer support ublock origin. If you could use the desktop versions of browsers on Chromebooks that would be great but right now the only option is either Chrome or the mobile versions of stuff like Firefox which is not very stable on a Chromebook. That's the only way to use extensions that are now not going to be blocked by manifest V3.
It is £1500 for the 16GB/1TB, so pricing is currently high. It is probably best to wait for price drops or deals. There is no option for 32GB at the moment. So the days when these are cheaper than Macbook Airs are seemingly gone; the 13-inch MB Air 16GB/512GB is currently £1349 and under £1000 for the base model for those of us who do not need higher specs. I have used an M1 MB Pro 13 for nearly four years with base spec and no issues doing "ultrabook work". The push by creators and comments for higher base configs had the inevitable effect of prices creeping up. Now, with no base options of 8GB/256GB, the ability to buy much cheaper has gone for premium Windows ultrabooks. I'm not a fan of ASUS, so I would never buy this, but I also prefer IPS displays, which are nicer for office work (white background). We will have to wait a little while longer for competitors.
Umm, I’m being issued a 32gb version on Monday, the 258V and they were available on AO and on the ASUS Website just the other day. I agree they’re pricey though.
8 hours at light office tasks at 30% brightness on a 350ish nit screen? That can't be right, or else this is a sham. If that is true, then this is not good battery life, at all. That doesn't seem to correspond with what other reviewers are saying, let alone the manufacturer claims.
Probably because of the oled screen. Those other tests are mostly UA-cam playback. In normal use, the CPU spikes occurring when juggling apps or even scrolling in webpages drain battery even for light use.
I have this laptop but with the ultra core 7 258v and brightness set around 30%, this gives me around 20h watching youtube videos, scrolling the web,... not sure how he only gets 8h with light tasks :)
@GAmbrose The difference between a 288v and 258v is small in every way, the 288v has slightly better performance, but the 258v has slightly better battery life,.. both this chips will do around 20h in light tasks no matter there tdp.
So Intel integrates the RAM with the CPU, set it to the highest speed possible and still lose in real world gaming with a more common setup from AMD. I think this shows only the data transfer is improved, but not the computation.
Snapdragon lapfops made with much cheaper chips but are very expensive. Lunar Lake is a failed attempt by Intel to wkn back the market. Must get better to stay relevent.
they didn't fail according to some tests by geekerwan the lunar lake SoCs are more efficient than the x elite both are still less efficient than an m1 lol apple just uses smaller batteries
I picked up the Lenovo Slim 7i Aura Edition and returned it after testing it for a day. I was hoping for an "M1 Mac" moment on Windows, but what I experienced was more of the same. For starters, the idle battery drain with the lid closed was around 1%/minute. Much better for Windows Intel laptops, but nothing like the Snapdragon Windows laptops or Macs. The performance was also disappointing. It was set to 120hz, but that's not what I was seeing when I was navigating around the OS and web browser. It felt more like 30hz. Definitely an improvement over past years, but not quite the one I was looking for.
Yeah you need longer than 1 day. There's no way normal battery consumption is 1%/min. You need to wait until Windows is done indexing and updating the 1st day. 😊
The touchpad gestures are Win11 limited so really it doesn't have these gestures. Overall S 14 is pretty inferior to the S 16. Should've tried Fedora Rawhide , because it has the latest kernel possible.
Laptops are really being enshittified. More and more single-board corner-cutting without ANY storage expandability and NONE of the savings passed on to the consumer. These have a profit margin of 500% they should be sued to hell and back, what a disgusting market
This is an ultrabook, and 95% of buyers will never upgrade any components. For the 5% for whom this may be an issue, if they buy the necessary RAM and storage at the time of purchase, it won't be a problem. I do believe that professional and gaming machines should have more upgrade options, and they will when Arrow Lake arrives soon. However, ultrabooks are designed for light to medium use, and I do not see a problem with soldered components. As for the price, that is because people like yourself insist on 16GB/512GB minimum configs and that is never free, hence the creep in price.
It’s been like this with ultrabooks for a while, if you’re that concerned about repairability buy a Framework laptop, horses for courses. 🤷♂️ I love my Framework for home, I’m also being issued this Zenbook for my job, from what I’ve seen it’s smaller and lighter, with better battery life. Not easy to have replaceable parts and be that small.
@@Techtablets I hate the touch technology, in my opinion it's halfway to what we should have... purely idiotic not to feel anything under fingertips. Secondly, it's a laptop... not a tablet or smartcrap... Tablet I will agree to have it but not phones or laptops... OMG and mirror screen of those OLED ones... total massacre.
BOOOOOOYZ. LUNAR LAKE IS WEEK IN MULTICORE...(other youtubers hide this bad score ) ,,,, 50% WEEKER THAN AMD RYZEN AI370 AND 30%MORE EXPENSIVE !!!! CINBENCH R23 lunarlake=10.000 ryzen ai370=22000
@@Techtablets yes, you are only youtuber dont hide cinebench r23 ,,,all other youtubers cut lunar lake bad multicore results ,,,you always no1 reviewer in detail,depth analyse
@@danieldjz Why he answered you I'll never know. TechTablets I got this laptop based on your review and yes the title was a question and most relevant. This dude is here just SEEKING RELEVANCE. Ignore.
How do you keep your external drives functioning between a mac and Windows? The new mac I just bought keeps corrupting my exfat formatted drives... I've never had this issue with any windows computer before!
@@nina_ms what's the issue? exFAT or FAT32 (with 4gb file size limit) work for me, maybe format on a windows machine first. Watch out for Apple's stupid "._" hidden files.
Glad to see Intel finally focusing on performance efficiency and following Apple
@@SunsetNova you really dont want any company following Apple. Though many do. A majority of anti consumer trends like horrible repairability were initiated by Apple. Their semi monopoly with locked eco systems is also something other companies are trying to replicate. Samsung is going in that direction. Ironically a good chunk of performance for Apple also comes from that policy. A single chip for a single set of Hard and Software basically does that without any major development. Long story short Apple has already cost you a lot more money than you realize even if you dont buy anything from them. Current crackdowns by the EU for example are helping but only to slow it down.
I got the Dell Latitude 7440 with the i7 1365U CPU last year. I like it for my needs, Azure cloud management and Power BI. The 7.5 hours of max battery life if fine for me, but I wish this laptop was out a year ago to take advantage of the battery life of Lunar Lake.
Hopefully, things will continue to advance by 2028 when I upgrade again for Intel & AMD.
Yeah what a clown you are you dont learn dont you…
Get a real pc: macbook pro 14 with pro chip not this underpowered inefficient x86 garbage
Some extra cons are:
- No fingerprint reader
- No haptic touchpad
@@gigamoment the face id on the laptop is better than a fingerprint reader
@marklog6587 A fingerprint reader is much safer, because it unlocks the computer only if you command it to do so, unlike the face id.
Keep your personal data, no fingerprint reader is good.
@@michaeljsullivan524 so no fingerprint reader is good, but a camera that scans your face is good? Are you serious?
@@gigamoment where did i say the camera was good you clown?
2:20 the backlight looks very uneven. Function row seems much brighter
On camera for some reason but in person it’s fine.
I was about to get a macbook air m3 because of the frankly bad choices for window 11 which i prefer.
This is finally what I was looking for
Macbook air l3 still a best choice if you don't play games
Thanks for posting this video
Thanks for watching
Too expensive S14. In my country, the new Lunar Lake Zenbook S14 cost 700 USD more than the Meteor Lake Zenbook 14. While the Ryzen 9 AI HX370 Vivobook cost around 200 USD more than the Meteor Lake Zenbook 14.
Arc GPU is only enabled out of the box with Linux 6.12. It's not out yet. ALSO, Manjaro does not use the latest stuffs anymore, please try CachyOS next time, I GUARANTEE you that you will have a much more enjoyable time with it
If you are using an Arch derivative, linux-mainline will build the latest 6.12 (rc2 atm) and most things work on my Arc laptop (MSI Prestige 13 AI+ - very similarly specced as this Zenbook, but
@@lhl Good to know! Thanks for trying out! Hopefully more issues get ironed out towards 6.13
I want this with windows surface laptop next year
Can't believe Windows are only offering Snapdragon chips in their devices....
Zenbook S 14 with the 288V isn't available anywhere
Great device and great overall package. Best battery life and good performance but iGPU is just the best. How did you get this device though? It's not yet for sale in Germany 😅
Got it from Asus. Thanks for the comment
@@Techtablets great review as usual since you were just testing the CPU performance I would suggest you include a more detailed battery performance, for example a full web browsing or gaming or watching contents until the battery is dead.
Great ultrabook but it's so expensive... 2100€. That's more than Air 15" 16GB and really close to Macbook Pro 14"
That's crazy. It's around 1.2 euros in the US bestbuys
lol it’s oled , unlike MacBook Pro. However , I have MacBook M3 Max ,It’s way brighter than that zenbook
@@marklog6587 I call BS on that price. The i7 model is 1600€ over here, which translates to $1460 before taxes. There is no way the i9(!) model is significantly cheaper.
The MSRP is $1500 at ASUS's website, btw. I just checked Best Buy and they sell the 16(!!!)GB model for $1400. Maybe you looked at a previous gen model?
Base m3pro 14inch absolutely stomps demolishes this piece of x86 garbage in every possible way lmao. And m4pro is around the corner with like 3x the performance of this lunar lake crap for like 2400euros.
Who buys this x86 slow crap for 2100euros seriously🤡
M4pro BASE!! geekbench6 like 18_000 multi and 4000single,
With a gpu that is 4070m lvl.
And soo much better efficiency than lunar and arrow lake.
@lawrenceandrews4367 and @PKperformanceEU I've recently bought a macbook and am really struggling with it not reading/ corrupting all of my external drives (I had them formatted to exfat because I need to transfer them to windows regularly)... have either of you had this experience and if yes, how have you managed it?
Thanks for the review!!
Thank you for watching
Touchpad click is ridiculously hard, don't you think? I got mine today and it's very frustrating since you can only click in bottom half, if anything half way is far too firm to even both clicking in. tracking is great but the click is very annoying
Really you think so? I didn't notice this on my unit it seemed fine and if it was more difficult I would have noticed. Maybe see if you can RMA that one and get another?
This is intels m3. Basically same score, in cpu, in gpu, and equally efficient the both of them.
Very interesting chip. Makes the windows laptop scene very straightforward. You want power get ryzen ai at higher wattage if possible, you want good battery and gpu, intel got you, you want a chromebook alternative get X plus.
It's a great chip I really want to see it now in a mini oc
Would you recommend the 370 AMD 9 instead of this?
The ram is actually on the cpu with those chips. No way for manufacturers like Asus to adjust the size.
Yes that’s true on the chip itself so the max is 32GB for now
Zenbook S 14 or Honor Magicbook Art 14?
How does this compare to the 14 zenbook Oled with meteor lake?
Much better battery life, better iGPU but worse multi core performance.
Since these are all ultrabooks - I don't see a point until intel, taiwan or whoever else could finally come with a solid fanless radiator. I think that this chip could do it, but it needs a HARD 15W limit, not a "silent mode" that still cranks up to 25-35W or so.
Fans are for 35-65W chips. Ultrabooks need fanless design. As long as Intel\AMD are trying to combine the two - apple would make fun of them. They wouldn't always compare the scores, but they would always be ahead in convenience.
I think until 20w fanless is good.
redmi book pro 14 2024
Please 🙏🏼 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Basically same laptop with bigger battery but much cheaper??
But it’s not Lunar Lake right?
Which should I buy this or Honor art 14 I’m simple user , thank you…
Whichever has the best price of them and save some $$$
Battery test?
Mentioned towards the end the battery life I’m getting it’s not bad at all for 72wh lunar lake seems a lot more efficient thanks to 8 cores only.
@@Techtablets any time line on testing the XPs 13 lunar lake with 32 gb ram config?
Switched from a Windows 11 Ultrabook to a Chromebook and haven't really missed anything. Find out very quickly that I can do pretty much everything in the cloud with web apps.
Did you get a chromebook plus machine
Chromebooks are fine for basic work
@@Me-eb3wv No
@@Techtablets All the heavy lifting is done in the cloud. If you workflow is completely in web apps, they are perfect.
My issue there is pretty soon Chrome will no longer support ublock origin. If you could use the desktop versions of browsers on Chromebooks that would be great but right now the only option is either Chrome or the mobile versions of stuff like Firefox which is not very stable on a Chromebook. That's the only way to use extensions that are now not going to be blocked by manifest V3.
It is £1500 for the 16GB/1TB, so pricing is currently high. It is probably best to wait for price drops or deals. There is no option for 32GB at the moment. So the days when these are cheaper than Macbook Airs are seemingly gone; the 13-inch MB Air 16GB/512GB is currently £1349 and under £1000 for the base model for those of us who do not need higher specs. I have used an M1 MB Pro 13 for nearly four years with base spec and no issues doing "ultrabook work". The push by creators and comments for higher base configs had the inevitable effect of prices creeping up. Now, with no base options of 8GB/256GB, the ability to buy much cheaper has gone for premium Windows ultrabooks.
I'm not a fan of ASUS, so I would never buy this, but I also prefer IPS displays, which are nicer for office work (white background). We will have to wait a little while longer for competitors.
Umm, I’m being issued a 32gb version on Monday, the 258V and they were available on AO and on the ASUS Website just the other day. I agree they’re pricey though.
You're looking at 3rd party websites like eBay. They only have 16gb. Asus, is for some reason, holding the 32gb at their own website
@@marklog6587 thanks!
Seen the redmi book pro 14?
Intel unisson is a very good app for syncing phone with pc.
Sure it might be but it nonstop nagged me with pop ups over and over.
In my opinion…if you solder the ram …the warranty should be 5 years :) not 1 year like here in canada
I happen to agree the warranty should be over a year at least
8 hours at light office tasks at 30% brightness on a 350ish nit screen? That can't be right, or else this is a sham.
If that is true, then this is not good battery life, at all. That doesn't seem to correspond with what other reviewers are saying, let alone the manufacturer claims.
Probably because of the oled screen. Those other tests are mostly UA-cam playback. In normal use, the CPU spikes occurring when juggling apps or even scrolling in webpages drain battery even for light use.
I have this laptop but with the ultra core 7 258v and brightness set around 30%, this gives me around 20h watching youtube videos, scrolling the web,... not sure how he only gets 8h with light tasks :)
@@RaptorRobb6ixProbably because the 288v CPU has a TDP of 30w instead of 17w on the 258v
@GAmbrose The difference between a 288v and 258v is small in every way, the 288v has slightly better performance, but the 258v has slightly better battery life,.. both this chips will do around 20h in light tasks no matter there tdp.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
So Intel integrates the RAM with the CPU, set it to the highest speed possible and still lose in real world gaming with a more common setup from AMD. I think this shows only the data transfer is improved, but not the computation.
If amd and intel cannot reduce their single core wattage, x86 is going to lose. Because the fan is going to spinning.
Snapdragon lapfops made with much cheaper chips but are very expensive. Lunar Lake is a failed attempt by Intel to wkn back the market. Must get better to stay relevent.
they didn't fail
according to some tests by geekerwan the lunar lake SoCs are more efficient than the x elite
both are still less efficient than an m1 lol
apple just uses smaller batteries
It’s not a complete fail but yes the price has to come down.
I picked up the Lenovo Slim 7i Aura Edition and returned it after testing it for a day. I was hoping for an "M1 Mac" moment on Windows, but what I experienced was more of the same. For starters, the idle battery drain with the lid closed was around 1%/minute. Much better for Windows Intel laptops, but nothing like the Snapdragon Windows laptops or Macs. The performance was also disappointing. It was set to 120hz, but that's not what I was seeing when I was navigating around the OS and web browser. It felt more like 30hz. Definitely an improvement over past years, but not quite the one I was looking for.
One day is way too short. The first 1-2 days Windows keeps indexing everything and battery consumption is way too high
1 percent , so you run whole time nearly full 100 percent cpu ? Rofl bull s hit kewl go home 😂😂😂
Yeah you need longer than 1 day. There's no way normal battery consumption is 1%/min. You need to wait until Windows is done indexing and updating the 1st day. 😊
@@MarkT1700 I meant 1%/hour. Corrected. Still disappointing.
The touchpad gestures are Win11 limited so really it doesn't have these gestures. Overall S 14 is pretty inferior to the S 16. Should've tried Fedora Rawhide , because it has the latest kernel possible.
not as overhyped as the snapdragon laptops
Now that’s true! Those were way overhyped
Laptops are really being enshittified. More and more single-board corner-cutting without ANY storage expandability and NONE of the savings passed on to the consumer. These have a profit margin of 500% they should be sued to hell and back, what a disgusting market
This is an ultrabook, and 95% of buyers will never upgrade any components. For the 5% for whom this may be an issue, if they buy the necessary RAM and storage at the time of purchase, it won't be a problem. I do believe that professional and gaming machines should have more upgrade options, and they will when Arrow Lake arrives soon. However, ultrabooks are designed for light to medium use, and I do not see a problem with soldered components.
As for the price, that is because people like yourself insist on 16GB/512GB minimum configs and that is never free, hence the creep in price.
If you want efficiency and better battery life, you must do some sacrifices. There's no other way.
Bro knows nothing about how business works and less about technology margins.
And yet it will sell.
It’s been like this with ultrabooks for a while, if you’re that concerned about repairability buy a Framework laptop, horses for courses. 🤷♂️ I love my Framework for home, I’m also being issued this Zenbook for my job, from what I’ve seen it’s smaller and lighter, with better battery life. Not easy to have replaceable parts and be that small.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO a touch screen again OMFG
Why? I happen to like touch screens what's the issue with them the glossy glass? Matte screen protector can do wonders there for that.
@@Techtablets I hate the touch technology, in my opinion it's halfway to what we should have... purely idiotic not to feel anything under fingertips. Secondly, it's a laptop... not a tablet or smartcrap... Tablet I will agree to have it but not phones or laptops... OMG and mirror screen of those OLED ones... total massacre.
It's not a two in one, so yeah the touch screen is useless.
Everything is HYPE in 2024. We get shoved a pile of crap everyday while the same liars call it Gold.
True many products and tech are
Very expensive
It is a bit expensive yes
BOOOOOOYZ. LUNAR LAKE IS WEEK IN MULTICORE...(other youtubers hide this bad score ) ,,,, 50% WEEKER THAN AMD RYZEN AI370 AND 30%MORE EXPENSIVE !!!!
CINBENCH R23
lunarlake=10.000
ryzen ai370=22000
No one hides it since it's just 8 cores 8 threads but battery performance is exceptional
I didn’t hide it if you watch the video and listened I point this out.
Yes much better than the last gen.
@@Techtablets yes, you are only youtuber dont hide cinebench r23 ,,,all other youtubers cut lunar lake bad multicore results ,,,you always no1 reviewer in detail,depth analyse
@@gezimislamaj5309 on other youtubers find lunarlake cinbench r23 multicore,,,,you cant
I think YOU are overhyped.
That’s good well don’t watch my videos then… But settle down it’s just a title and a valid question is it overhyped lunar lake?
@@Techtablets OK, good luck with the click baiting moving forward.
@@danieldjz Why he answered you I'll never know. TechTablets I got this laptop based on your review and yes the title was a question and most relevant. This dude is here just SEEKING RELEVANCE. Ignore.
@@Techtablets TechTablets I got this laptop based on your review and yes the title was a question and most relevant. . Ignore these trolls
@@jayceejm Thank you for helping me be more relevant, dmbss
Lunar Lake = Garbage tier
Apple silicon= the best fastest 🤤👑
How do you keep your external drives functioning between a mac and Windows? The new mac I just bought keeps corrupting my exfat formatted drives... I've never had this issue with any windows computer before!
@@nina_ms i only have one laptop, cant relate
@@nina_msI think you have to format them on macos on a certain format that works for both windows and macos (I forgot which one).
@@nina_ms what's the issue? exFAT or FAT32 (with 4gb file size limit) work for me, maybe format on a windows machine first. Watch out for Apple's stupid "._" hidden files.