that shit air ride almost killed me and my family. When it goes you could die, hit a bump and your going the wrong way. Junk. We lost our shitty 2015 ram, didnt have the 4000 to fix.Can't handle cold . We should all start a law suit. They still sell these shitty air ride systems.
My 2014 with 47k miles. Overheating message. Dealer wants $4,800 to replace the pump and block. Nope. If I bypass the relay to turn on the pump, the pump twitches and stops. So I suppose it could be a bad compressor, or maybe the temp sensor. I have a refurb pump and block on order from RMT for $400, plus core.
@@PhillipBailey the system is great. The truck rides like a Cadillac when it works. It's lack of maintenance that sucks. Of course, how are you supposed to know you need to do maintenance if you aren't sitting right next to the pax rear tire at ALL times to hear when the fuckin' compressor runs excessively because you have a leak, not to level. I guess the solution is to replace bags every 3-4 years and run a vacuum on the system before refilling with nitrogen after replacement. Can you tell that I'm pissed that my '14 is riding on the jounces right now with no blown fuses? Did your customer have any other dash messages? Mine popped up with "service trailer brake", "service air suspension", "service electric brake system" and I have a traction control light, all of which popped up on morning startup a couple days ago when the OAT was low teens overnight. I was sure it was going to be a blown 40A fuse, but no. And no other blown fuses. I think my issue might be a ground considering all of the systems that failed at the same time, but I can't find anywhere that shows where the ground for any, or all, of those systems are.
Hi I have a 2014 Dodge ram 1500 Hemi and the air suspension goes down overnight and comes up when starting. But I just find out now it goes down every time when I turn off the truck and comes up when I I turn on. So I am not sure what is it do you have any idea?
Likely a leak in the system. Listen carefully after shutting it off for a hissing noise. Soapy water might help as well. Likely one of the air bags is leaking.
Does it go down at the front or back or all the way around? Back is usually the air bags. Turn off the function that lowers the suspension on the highway as the air bags on the rear usually start leaking at the lowest setting as they get older but won't leak at regular height. If the front is down, soap check the 90 degree connector on the top of the air shock. If they all go down, it is probably the air valve that sits beside the compressor.
If ride height is normal my guess would be shocks. I believe the rear has conventional shocks. Air suspension requires good shock absorber action otherwise it will bounce like crazy. Just my opinion . HTH
I have a leaky bag issue on the back. my system was freezing up. i used are brake de icer. a very small amount. maybe 1 OZ. behind the left tail lamp is an air filter. remove the filter and put in about .5 to 1 oz of air brake de icer lubricant. it has been working great for 2 winters even though i need to change the bags out. its a quick fix and a temporary fix till all leaks are fixed.
So I’m getting ready to purchase a new 2020 ram Laramie with air suspension. I live in Wisconsin which as your probably aware has quite a few cold days and lots of road salt. Should I not buy the truck due to these potential ongoing issues?
Well this one is an early version being a 2014. Not sure of they changed or improved the system by now. The dealership here won't order any with the air ride so I don't know if they have improved. I'd try talking to other owners in your area and the dealership techs see if they are still problematic. Good luck
Air ride is a great suspension but come on Ram it ain't that hard I have had semi tractors and trailers with air ride and well over 1 million miles and original air bags and compressors and guess what airbags less than 200$ and compressors 600$. The makers of these pickups know that most people don't have any experience with air suspensions so they build a poorly designed unit and charge more than it cost for heavy duty applications shame on them.
Nice job, what a pain in the neck. I’m def disappointed with mopar for this. Very crappy set up at that voltage the motor is bad but what do you do? Covert like you said if not keep burning up motors? Thanks for sharing.., jay
Go with a coil over shock kit from Monroe for less than $600... RAM air suspension is complete garbage and too expensive to replace unless under warranty
Have been plagued by issues s my 2014 Ram 1500 4 corner air system. 3 trios to 2 different local dealers , typical just replacing expensive modules and motor. Still not working properly. Can’t tell if they are just clueless or raping me. Truck has only 60k miles on it. They offered to get me in a new truck, just about spit out my drink. “ you can’t even figure out how to fix my current truck after 3 services and you want me to buy a new one?!” Lmao
If you live in a cold climate I'm afraid this is going to continue. The local dealer here won't order any trucks with the air suspension system and even recommends deleting the entire system for conventional coil springs and shocks. There is a company in the US that sells a kit to convert it.
@@PhillipBailey that makes sense in that climate for sure based on what I’ve seen. It’s a joke that those are the only complaints on file . I spoke with corporate and they pretend that there is no real issue with this system. I will probably delete the system - I have seen the US company Strutmasters or something like that. I just wish someone would comment of that is a legit option.
Hi Philip, I bought a 2015 Ram Ecodiesel and went all out and got the limited Laramie 4x4! Love the truck but I keep coming to the same issue with the air suspension it comes with. I continuously take it to the dealership where I assume at least they know their trucks even if it turns out to be more expensive at least the work will be original. I’ve had to bring it back more than 10 times and I’m not sure what to do! I can’t lemon law because it’s a used car! Please help all I ask is for some advice. God bless you and your family stay safe!
Hey Phil, i have a 2017 Rebel with air ride. It has given me nothing but trouble, and i'm now out of warranty. A quick way to 'fool' the system to enable level control, when it refuses to do so, is to select fill from reservoir, short term fill, and select any corner. If it passes that, it will allow level control once you go back and clear the codes.
Yup. Almost 10k in parts and labour so far on my 2016 under warranty (air suspension). Most issues were compressor related. I'm on my 5th. There's no fix. Once my warranty is up I'm ripping it all out and putting in a regular setup with a lift.
My 2014 has been slammed down not holding air yesterday I hit the fuse box and it started working and holding air is this common are just messing with me
The secret to success with these systems is to make sure that they remain sealed. In other words, keep an eye (or ear) out for leaks. There are a few places that commonly develop leaks, such as the 90 degree joint on top of each air shock. If the system does develop a leak, it will eventually take in atmospheric air. And since atmospheric air contains moisture, you'll end up with all kinds of issues, especially in cold temperatures. The reason the system is filled with high purity nitrogen in the first place is that it doesn't have any moisture, which means it can't freeze up in cold weather. Too many people ignore leaks until they have an issue where the system becomes inoperable. But if you keep it in good shape, it will work just fine for many, many years, even during extremely cold winter temperatures.
@@Japplesnap then you should know there's nothing you can do when the compressor goes every year. Maybe a heated garage keeps it normal but mine has been changed under warranty every year n unfortunately warranty up now. NY here as well.
@@travisquicke7169 Mine still works fine. Never needed any repairs yet after 8 years and almost 100, 000 miles. The key is leaks. If the system doesn't leak, it won't suck in moisture through outside air. Moisture means the system will freeze in cold temps. That's why these systems use nitrogen----no moisture to freeze up in the compressor.
Phil, I have a 2018 ram 2500 with rear air suspension. I got the code C156E-00. Do you know the process to recalibrate the air suspension SENSOR so the ride height value can be enter.
@@PhillipBailey thanks. I dropped it off to the dealer but they keep trying to enter the height value without doing the recalibration of the sensor and they get rejected. Any clue where the calibration process is ? I think I can not do it with the alfaobd software ( limited access I guess). Dealer want to replace the suspension module with is in back order. Any help would be appreciated because I think the dealer is not using the right process for the calibration of the sensor. ( I did unplug the passenger sensor and I guess it as to be recalibrated now like you you install a new sensor). Thank you for responding me. Your videos are very helpful.
I know this is an old post but I have a 2014 Ram 1500 Laramie with 106,000 miles. I have had it since 2017. It has been an awesome truck until the past 6 months when the air suspension started in with the troubles that everyone has been having. I took it to the dealer twice. I ran out of warranty too. Just paid the truck off a couple months ago. The first time at the dealer, they couldn't find anything wrong. The second time in, they said I need a new compressor at a cost of nearly $3,000.00. BUT, they said there are no guarantee's it will fix the problem. That is when I started researching here on UA-cam. I think what I plan on doing is converting all this crap into a conventional suspension. Ram needs to do something about this and I live in warm Southern California too. I don't think it is a cold climate issue.
Pathetic and no excuse I would like to have a nice Ram truck but I'm having second thoughts because of this crap I had a 1993 Peterbilt with a million miles on it and still had the original compressor and air bags.And they are probably cheaper to replace than these stupid pickups.
I had a Theory about the air system before I saw your video and my theory got enlightened when I saw the amperage went higher at some point when you where testing it. Is there a chance that the pump is miss reading the pressures in the tanks and is trying to fill passe it’s psi threshold
That's certainly a possibility unfortunately we will never know for sure as he traded it in and the dealer sent it to auction as they didn't want to deal with it either. I'm sure they work good in Arizona.
Hey phill. Help me please I have one ram 2014 long horn, the problem is “ rear air suspension suspension turns down but just in one side. ( driver side ) my truck don’t have any leak. Could you help me please 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@martinmontano3362 C2212-00 is the system is in "Plant Mode" and C156E-00 is calibration incomplete. What did you do? Were some parts replaced? Was someone playing with scan tool?
Cheers Phillip reminds me of a jagi I done recently ua-cam.com/video/xx86TcCRDnA/v-deo.html with misleading fault codes, what I learned from this one is just go straight to the compressor and get it running feeding it power and ground then start fault finding once u establish the compressor runs cheers sandy
that shit air ride almost killed me and my family. When it goes you could die, hit a bump and your going the wrong way. Junk. We lost our shitty 2015 ram, didnt have the 4000 to fix.Can't handle cold . We should all start a law suit. They still sell these shitty air ride systems.
My 2017longhorn has been nothing but a nightmare. Waiting for parts to come in and do the conversion. Done with the bullshit
My 2014 with 47k miles. Overheating message.
Dealer wants $4,800 to replace the pump and block.
Nope.
If I bypass the relay to turn on the pump, the pump twitches and stops.
So I suppose it could be a bad compressor, or maybe the temp sensor.
I have a refurb pump and block on order from RMT for $400, plus core.
It's a poorly designed system in my opinion. Conversion to conventional coils is the only long term fix.
@@PhillipBailey the system is great. The truck rides like a Cadillac when it works. It's lack of maintenance that sucks. Of course, how are you supposed to know you need to do maintenance if you aren't sitting right next to the pax rear tire at ALL times to hear when the fuckin' compressor runs excessively because you have a leak, not to level. I guess the solution is to replace bags every 3-4 years and run a vacuum on the system before refilling with nitrogen after replacement.
Can you tell that I'm pissed that my '14 is riding on the jounces right now with no blown fuses?
Did your customer have any other dash messages? Mine popped up with "service trailer brake", "service air suspension", "service electric brake system" and I have a traction control light, all of which popped up on morning startup a couple days ago when the OAT was low teens overnight. I was sure it was going to be a blown 40A fuse, but no. And no other blown fuses. I think my issue might be a ground considering all of the systems that failed at the same time, but I can't find anywhere that shows where the ground for any, or all, of those systems are.
Hi I have a 2014 Dodge ram 1500 Hemi and the air suspension goes down overnight and comes up when starting. But I just find out now it goes down every time when I turn off the truck and comes up when I I turn on. So I am not sure what is it do you have any idea?
Likely a leak in the system. Listen carefully after shutting it off for a hissing noise. Soapy water might help as well. Likely one of the air bags is leaking.
Does it go down at the front or back or all the way around? Back is usually the air bags. Turn off the function that lowers the suspension on the highway as the air bags on the rear usually start leaking at the lowest setting as they get older but won't leak at regular height. If the front is down, soap check the 90 degree connector on the top of the air shock. If they all go down, it is probably the air valve that sits beside the compressor.
Mine is really bouncy in Aero mode . Any reason you could think off?
If ride height is normal my guess would be shocks. I believe the rear has conventional shocks. Air suspension requires good shock absorber action otherwise it will bounce like crazy. Just my opinion . HTH
Did you fix it im having same problem
@@MemphiZ28 me too
@@PhillipBailey having same problem w 2014 ram ecodiesel
Hi Phillip Can I get your phone please I have a 2015 Ram 1500 with air suspension and it has an issue
Why hasn't this been recalled because my 2014 freezes up and bounces. One time I almost bounced into the other lane.
You ever figure it out? And I agree happens to me 2
@@travisquicke7169 it's not hard if you have the tools to do it.
I have a leaky bag issue on the back. my system was freezing up. i used are brake de icer. a very small amount. maybe 1 OZ. behind the left tail lamp is an air filter. remove the filter and put in about .5 to 1 oz of air brake de icer lubricant. it has been working great for 2 winters even though i need to change the bags out. its a quick fix and a temporary fix till all leaks are fixed.
That's not a bad idea. My customer traded his in...
Left side? I thought it was the right rear tail light?
So I’m getting ready to purchase a new 2020 ram Laramie with air suspension. I live in Wisconsin which as your probably
aware has quite a few cold days and lots of road salt. Should I not buy the truck due to these potential ongoing issues?
Well this one is an early version being a 2014. Not sure of they changed or improved the system by now. The dealership here won't order any with the air ride so I don't know if they have improved. I'd try talking to other owners in your area and the dealership techs see if they are still problematic. Good luck
Do. Not. Buy. It.
i am putting a monore sturts and spring on mine.good by to the air ride
Read my post above, I figured it out for my 2017 Rebal. Handles MN -30° winters no problem now. We've got thr same frigid winters in MN and Wisconsin.
@@tdcjonm can you confirm that the key fix is to keep the truck warm? If so where do you put the warming blanket? Thanks so much for this insight
Air ride is a great suspension but come on Ram it ain't that hard I have had semi tractors and trailers with air ride and well over 1 million miles and original air bags and compressors and guess what airbags less than 200$ and compressors 600$. The makers of these pickups know that most people don't have any experience with air suspensions so they build a poorly designed unit and charge more than it cost for heavy duty applications shame on them.
Nice job, what a pain in the neck. I’m def disappointed with mopar for this. Very crappy set up at that voltage the motor is bad but what do you do? Covert like you said if not keep burning up motors? Thanks for sharing.., jay
Yes it's a crappy system if you live in a cold climate which I do. When the dealer takes these on trade the send them to the auction in Toronto.
Go with a coil over shock kit from Monroe for less than $600... RAM air suspension is complete garbage and too expensive to replace unless under warranty
Have been plagued by issues s my 2014 Ram 1500 4 corner air system. 3 trios to 2 different local dealers , typical just replacing expensive modules and motor. Still not working properly. Can’t tell if they are just clueless or raping me. Truck has only 60k miles on it. They offered to get me in a new truck, just about spit out my drink. “ you can’t even figure out how to fix my current truck after 3 services and you want me to buy a new one?!” Lmao
If you live in a cold climate I'm afraid this is going to continue. The local dealer here won't order any trucks with the air suspension system and even recommends deleting the entire system for conventional coil springs and shocks. There is a company in the US that sells a kit to convert it.
@@PhillipBailey that makes sense in that climate for sure based on what I’ve seen. It’s a joke that those are the only complaints on file . I spoke with corporate and they pretend that there is no real issue with this system. I will probably delete the system - I have seen the US company Strutmasters or something like that. I just wish someone would comment of that is a legit option.
Hi Philip,
I bought a 2015 Ram Ecodiesel and went all out and got the limited Laramie 4x4! Love the truck but I keep coming to the same issue with the air suspension it comes with. I continuously take it to the dealership where I assume at least they know their trucks even if it turns out to be more expensive at least the work will be original. I’ve had to bring it back more than 10 times and I’m not sure what to do! I can’t lemon law because it’s a used car! Please help all I ask is for some advice.
God bless you and your family stay safe!
I also live in South Florida!
Read my post above, I figured it out for my 2017 Rebal. Handles MN -30° winters no problem now.
@@tdcjonm could you put out a video on this, where you put the warming blanket and how? Would help a lot of us. Thanks
Hey Phil, i have a 2017 Rebel with air ride. It has given me nothing but trouble, and i'm now out of warranty. A quick way to 'fool' the system to enable level control, when it refuses to do so, is to select fill from reservoir, short term fill, and select any corner. If it passes that, it will allow level control once you go back and clear the codes.
Good to know. The local dealer has lo fix for these short of converting back to conventional springs .
@@PhillipBailey fire?
Yup. Almost 10k in parts and labour so far on my 2016 under warranty (air suspension). Most issues were compressor related. I'm on my 5th. There's no fix. Once my warranty is up I'm ripping it all out and putting in a regular setup with a lift.
My 2014 has been slammed down not holding air yesterday I hit the fuse box and it started working and holding air is this common are just messing with me
The secret to success with these systems is to make sure that they remain sealed. In other words, keep an eye (or ear) out for leaks. There are a few places that commonly develop leaks, such as the 90 degree joint on top of each air shock. If the system does develop a leak, it will eventually take in atmospheric air. And since atmospheric air contains moisture, you'll end up with all kinds of issues, especially in cold temperatures. The reason the system is filled with high purity nitrogen in the first place is that it doesn't have any moisture, which means it can't freeze up in cold weather. Too many people ignore leaks until they have an issue where the system becomes inoperable. But if you keep it in good shape, it will work just fine for many, many years, even during extremely cold winter temperatures.
This message sounds like someone who doesn't live in cold states or doesn't own one of these vehicles lol
@@travisquicke7169 I live in NY and I've owned one since 2015.
@@Japplesnap then you should know there's nothing you can do when the compressor goes every year. Maybe a heated garage keeps it normal but mine has been changed under warranty every year n unfortunately warranty up now. NY here as well.
@@travisquicke7169 Mine still works fine. Never needed any repairs yet after 8 years and almost 100, 000 miles. The key is leaks. If the system doesn't leak, it won't suck in moisture through outside air. Moisture means the system will freeze in cold temps. That's why these systems use nitrogen----no moisture to freeze up in the compressor.
Phil, I have a 2018 ram 2500 with rear air suspension. I got the code C156E-00. Do you know the process to recalibrate the air suspension SENSOR so the ride height value can be enter.
You need a factory compatible scan tool and it will be a functional test in the suspension control module.
@@PhillipBailey thanks. I dropped it off to the dealer but they keep trying to enter the height value without doing the recalibration of the sensor and they get rejected. Any clue where the calibration process is ?
I think I can not do it with the alfaobd software ( limited access I guess). Dealer want to replace the suspension module with is in back order. Any help would be appreciated because I think the dealer is not using the right process for the calibration of the sensor. ( I did unplug the passenger sensor and I guess it as to be recalibrated now like you you install a new sensor). Thank you for responding me. Your videos are very helpful.
I know this is an old post but I have a 2014 Ram 1500 Laramie with 106,000 miles. I have had it since 2017. It has been an awesome truck until the past 6 months when the air suspension started in with the troubles that everyone has been having. I took it to the dealer twice. I ran out of warranty too. Just paid the truck off a couple months ago. The first time at the dealer, they couldn't find anything wrong. The second time in, they said I need a new compressor at a cost of nearly $3,000.00. BUT, they said there are no guarantee's it will fix the problem. That is when I started researching here on UA-cam. I think what I plan on doing is converting all this crap into a conventional suspension. Ram needs to do something about this and I live in warm Southern California too. I don't think it is a cold climate issue.
Only real fix is a conversion to conventional suspension.
Pathetic and no excuse I would like to have a nice Ram truck but I'm having second thoughts because of this crap I had a 1993 Peterbilt with a million miles on it and still had the original compressor and air bags.And they are probably cheaper to replace than these stupid pickups.
I had a Theory about the air system before I saw your video and my theory got enlightened when I saw the amperage went higher at some point when you where testing it. Is there a chance that the pump is miss reading the pressures in the tanks and is trying to fill passe it’s psi threshold
That's certainly a possibility unfortunately we will never know for sure as he traded it in and the dealer sent it to auction as they didn't want to deal with it either. I'm sure they work good in Arizona.
@@PhillipBailey Nope - mine in Phoenix craped out. Ill try new air bags in the rear.
Hey phill. Help me please I have one ram 2014 long horn, the problem is “ rear air suspension suspension turns down but just in one side. ( driver side ) my truck don’t have any leak. Could you help me please 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
You need to scan the suspension system for codes to start with. Hopefully that will give you some direction.
@@PhillipBailey do you have email ? Or phone number
@@PhillipBailey c221200 & c156e00
@@martinmontano3362 C2212-00 is the system is in "Plant Mode" and C156E-00 is calibration incomplete. What did you do? Were some parts replaced? Was someone playing with scan tool?
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Cheers Phillip reminds me of a jagi I done recently ua-cam.com/video/xx86TcCRDnA/v-deo.html with misleading fault codes, what I learned from this one is just go straight to the compressor and get it running feeding it power and ground then start fault finding once u establish the compressor runs cheers sandy