What high school lets an under age kid bring a 26 year old to prom. Feels like there would be a line there. I get a 19 or 20 year old that graduated a year or two prior, but if the two people were never even in high school together it seems like something a school probably shouldn’t allow.
@@25Soupynot at the school but still a school event. I was in high school 12 years ago, so maybe it’s different now, but anyone going to prom that wasn’t a student at the school had to submit some paperwork and be approved to go.
Damn, always viewed Flip as the prototypical slightly-douchey Duke player, but I really feel for him here. Pray for him that he can one day leave this relationship and move past it
This is truly ridiculous. The premise some of you are pushing makes this dude sound breathtaking weak without the power of choice and character. And her as this little female with legit super powers. This doesn’t mean she didn’t manipulate him for nefarious reasons, but there’s no evidence she did.
@@ace00057 he was 16 dating a 22 or 23 year old, that is textbook predatory behavior, and he was a minor. Could he have been smarter? Absolutely. But everyone makes dumb decisions at 16, and this dude probably can’t even recognize how his partner has isolated him from his family and friends. I’ll assume you have no experience being in or discussing abusive/manipulative relationships. Take it from me, It’s pretty damn hard to recognize when you’re in them
@@ace00057my guy, what is wrong with you? “There’s no evidence she manipulated him for nefarious reasons” For one, manipulation is nefarious by nature. But more to the point, how the hell can you tell me that a 26 year old DATING A MINOR is an innocent, harmless occurrence? It doesn’t take “superpowers” for an adult to influence (in this case I would say groom) a teenager. 15 year olds aren’t the brightest. There’s no instance I can think of where a 26 year old dating someone in their mid teens isn’t inappropriate at many levels. Even if you’re “in love” or whatever, be a mature adult and say, “hey kid, you’re still a child. We can re-visit in a few years maybe” It’s his life and his choice at this point, but acting like this whole thing isn’t weird is what would be “truly ridiculous,”
@@colejames423 you’re still not providing any evidence whatsoever she “groomed” him. She came back into his life when he was 17 (legal age of consent in many states, including Alabama) and later they started dating. That does NOT prove grooming. I’m not interested in opinion, bias or conjecture. If you got evidence she was actually manipulating an innocent guy who was not pursuing her and asking her to visit him then bring it forth, but until then I don’t think it’s right to tag her with that and pretend he is some weakling. It sounds some of you are projecting your own character onto it as if you yourselves would have been subject to such cuck behavior. I cringe at the thought but if suck characteristics and principles. Pretending he is an innocent if in fact there is wrong doing is the very disingenuous behavior of those underline the power of agency and true goodness. You can’t teach a kid responsibility and accountability and present things the way you all are. But I have no evidence any of them did anything wrong by normal standards. Sure, it’s a bit rare how it can’t to be, but were they having sex when he was 16? Was she legitimately grooming him at that age and thinking he’d be an nba player? If they started falling in love heading into his 18th year and later got more serious I’m fine with it. We live in a society where virtually almost all men and kids over 12 (especially boys) watch porn and dream of younger with older scenarios. The porn industry literally exploits and even grooms these individuals at a very young age. Teen girls barely 18 dress to appear as junior high school age are in full blown hardcore videos with men 35, 45 and 55. Most of you men don’t seem to care about that and the severe damage it does to these women. Most of you watch that…young teen girls (18, 19) having been groomed and often in vulnerable and destitute situations, knowing little about what they’re doing. Again, 18 year old girls with 45 year old men in porn is shockingly popular in this country to a high degree. Unless you’re actively speaking out against this you really have no right to say one word about a girl 6 years older who got serious with a young man she’s known for years. You have no right to claim there is manipulation and grooming and anything but genuine bonding and growing love. I’ll die on that hill. She may have groomed him, but I see no evidence. Until then he I’ll choose to keep an open mind and see the nuance of things and possibilities. Again, I’m disgusted to see how utterly weak these men in these videos are who watch that very kind of porn and automatically turn around and with weak knees to declare for sure Kyle’s brother has the story 100% right. These men are an embarrassment to all that noble. For the record, in the 1800’s and throughout most of history it was common for 16 yrs old girls to marry men in their 20’s and often older, even having known the man from the neighborhood, a family friend or neighboring tribe. This country’s birth rate is declining. Illegal immigration is a scourge upon the continued existence of America. Whatever we are doing we aren’t doing it, and this what you guys want to focus? Like even at 16 the dude towered over her. Maybe in some ways she is develops slow and wasn’t desire finding another man. The last thing I’d ever do to my kids is turn around and coddle them, signal they have little agency, accountability and responsibility and they are always a victim to the hugest degree and to walk around with rigid and cultish thinking born of one who lacks Christlike character and power and an intelligent and forgiving disposition. What the family is doing is wrong by the way. They are proving that if in fact something did go wrong…part of why it did..and part of why in the process he cut them off. Utterly foolish, selfish, low, insecure, unwise, impatient, spiteful, dishonest, and utterly not in harmony with anything having to do with actual TRUE LOVE.
@@colejames423My guy she was his "babysitter" if you think it started at 16 you are cooked. Imagine a 25 year old do who babysat Catlin Clark was with her are year before her prom.
You guys are hilarious. I love your channel! Keep up the great content! We welcome you with open arms my brothers and fellow honorary latter-day saints. You ought to make an appearance at the Marriott center this year and party with us in PROvo. :)
Filip is still an immature high school kid himself. Look at all of his childish fouls and antics on the court. The NBA will chew him up and spit him out. Way overated!!!
This is his families fault this narrative has taken root. Do they have evidence she did this for money? That she knew he’d become an nba draft pick and that even when he was 16 she legitimately and intentionally grooming him? Honestly I don’t think you guys are really conducting yourselves in a professional and judicial way
They are not victims.. kyle maybe. Dont forget his brother went to harvard and his family isnt a broke one. But after hearing all of it... i smell a resentful family. That kyle didnt want a part of. He made a choice and stuck to it. Btw. This idea that 16 is grooming. No. Grooming is when they are 8 10 12... in every other civilized top tier nation most all are adults and out of highschool at 16. We as americans are just ignorant to certain realities. He met her was in mass. And legal age of consent is 16. How do we know kyle didnt pursue her and she capichulated. She went alabama.. not utah. if she was hard mormon why not convince him to go to a utah school or alabama and not duke... if she was grooming and had that pull... why duke. Kyles choice. This isnt as evil as kyle is making it out to be. Its as evil and his family is making it out to be. none of this adds up and im sure kyle knows the truth and its why he doesnt say anything and roast his family.
Greg please don’t shave again
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🤣🤣🤣💀💀
So bad.
He definitely is one of those dudes that looks much better with a beard. That look definitely suits him.
But hey, his body his choice
The family probably didn’t want to do anything to hurt his draft chances, which explains why they would remain silent until after he is drafted.
Yeah, there motives seem totally noble and loving…
If the Utah Jazz drafted Kyle as a troll move then..... hat tip!!!
It's hard to see going public with this is going to do anything other than push him away further.
What high school lets an under age kid bring a 26 year old to prom. Feels like there would be a line there. I get a 19 or 20 year old that graduated a year or two prior, but if the two people were never even in high school together it seems like something a school probably shouldn’t allow.
The school wouldn't know until they arrived and my prom wasn't at my school.
@@25Soupynot at the school but still a school event. I was in high school 12 years ago, so maybe it’s different now, but anyone going to prom that wasn’t a student at the school had to submit some paperwork and be approved to go.
I’m so looking forward to the “Kyle filipowski and Gloria Groomer break their silence” long form interview.
Jealous much?
The thing is Flip wasn't a 5 star recruit when they started dating. He pretty much jumped up in the rankings his senior year.
Great pick up for the jazz but this situation is sad.
Damn, always viewed Flip as the prototypical slightly-douchey Duke player, but I really feel for him here. Pray for him that he can one day leave this relationship and move past it
This is truly ridiculous. The premise some of you are pushing makes this dude sound breathtaking weak without the power of choice and character. And her as this little female with legit super powers. This doesn’t mean she didn’t manipulate him for nefarious reasons, but there’s no evidence she did.
@@ace00057 he was 16 dating a 22 or 23 year old, that is textbook predatory behavior, and he was a minor. Could he have been smarter? Absolutely. But everyone makes dumb decisions at 16, and this dude probably can’t even recognize how his partner has isolated him from his family and friends.
I’ll assume you have no experience being in or discussing abusive/manipulative relationships. Take it from me, It’s pretty damn hard to recognize when you’re in them
@@ace00057my guy, what is wrong with you?
“There’s no evidence she manipulated him for nefarious reasons”
For one, manipulation is nefarious by nature. But more to the point, how the hell can you tell me that a 26 year old DATING A MINOR is an innocent, harmless occurrence? It doesn’t take “superpowers” for an adult to influence (in this case I would say groom) a teenager. 15 year olds aren’t the brightest.
There’s no instance I can think of where a 26 year old dating someone in their mid teens isn’t inappropriate at many levels. Even if you’re “in love” or whatever, be a mature adult and say, “hey kid, you’re still a child. We can re-visit in a few years maybe”
It’s his life and his choice at this point, but acting like this whole thing isn’t weird is what would be “truly ridiculous,”
@@colejames423 you’re still not providing any evidence whatsoever she “groomed” him. She came back into his life when he was 17 (legal age of consent in many states, including Alabama) and later they started dating. That does NOT prove grooming. I’m not interested in opinion, bias or conjecture. If you got evidence she was actually manipulating an innocent guy who was not pursuing her and asking her to visit him then bring it forth, but until then I don’t think it’s right to tag her with that and pretend he is some weakling. It sounds some of you are projecting your own character onto it as if you yourselves would have been subject to such cuck behavior. I cringe at the thought but if suck characteristics and principles. Pretending he is an innocent if in fact there is wrong doing is the very disingenuous behavior of those underline the power of agency and true goodness. You can’t teach a kid responsibility and accountability and present things the way you all are. But I have no evidence any of them did anything wrong by normal standards. Sure, it’s a bit rare how it can’t to be, but were they having sex when he was 16? Was she legitimately grooming him at that age and thinking he’d be an nba player? If they started falling in love heading into his 18th year and later got more serious I’m fine with it. We live in a society where virtually almost all men and kids over 12 (especially boys) watch porn and dream of younger with older scenarios. The porn industry literally exploits and even grooms these individuals at a very young age. Teen girls barely 18 dress to appear as junior high school age are in full blown hardcore videos with men 35, 45 and 55. Most of you men don’t seem to care about that and the severe damage it does to these women. Most of you watch that…young teen girls (18, 19) having been groomed and often in vulnerable and destitute situations, knowing little about what they’re doing. Again, 18 year old girls with 45 year old men in porn is shockingly popular in this country to a high degree. Unless you’re actively speaking out against this you really have no right to say one word about a girl 6 years older who got serious with a young man she’s known for years. You have no right to claim there is manipulation and grooming and anything but genuine bonding and growing love. I’ll die on that hill. She may have groomed him, but I see no evidence. Until then he I’ll choose to keep an open mind and see the nuance of things and possibilities. Again, I’m disgusted to see how utterly weak these men in these videos are who watch that very kind of porn and automatically turn around and with weak knees to declare for sure Kyle’s brother has the story 100% right. These men are an embarrassment to all that noble. For the record, in the 1800’s and throughout most of history it was common for 16 yrs old girls to marry men in their 20’s and often older, even having known the man from the neighborhood, a family friend or neighboring tribe. This country’s birth rate is declining. Illegal immigration is a scourge upon the continued existence of America. Whatever we are doing we aren’t doing it, and this what you guys want to focus? Like even at 16 the dude towered over her. Maybe in some ways she is develops slow and wasn’t desire finding another man. The last thing I’d ever do to my kids is turn around and coddle them, signal they have little agency, accountability and responsibility and they are always a victim to the hugest degree and to walk around with rigid and cultish thinking born of one who lacks Christlike character and power and an intelligent and forgiving disposition. What the family is doing is wrong by the way. They are proving that if in fact something did go wrong…part of why it did..and part of why in the process he cut them off. Utterly foolish, selfish, low, insecure, unwise, impatient, spiteful, dishonest, and utterly not in harmony with anything having to do with actual TRUE LOVE.
@@colejames423My guy she was his "babysitter" if you think it started at 16 you are cooked. Imagine a 25 year old do who babysat Catlin Clark was with her are year before her prom.
You guys are hilarious. I love your channel! Keep up the great content! We welcome you with open arms my brothers and fellow honorary latter-day saints. You ought to make an appearance at the Marriott center this year and party with us in PROvo. :)
‘Honorary latter-day saints’
You guys are awesome
He just got drafted into the NBA, dont feel bad for him! He's got a hot girlfriend and he's an NBA player! That is awesome!
Greg,
I like the shaved face. You can always grow it back.
He seemed to have an odd personality and the whole family is odd.
A Minorrrrrr
To be real after hearing about wade I can't make myself G.A.F
I'm happy to explain how he's tricked.
Filip is still an immature high school kid himself. Look at all of his childish fouls and antics on the court. The NBA will chew him up and spit him out. Way overated!!!
As an exmormon this happens. People "convert" others and cut them out from their families.
It is odd that a 16 year old boy would be interested in a 24 year old woman.
Young men are impressionable. He could have easily been Mixed up with theatre program and lgbtq , but went the other way , instead.
It would be odd for a 16 year old boy not to be attracted to a pretty 20-something year old lady.
This is his families fault this narrative has taken root. Do they have evidence she did this for money? That she knew he’d become an nba draft pick and that even when he was 16 she legitimately and intentionally grooming him? Honestly I don’t think you guys are really conducting yourselves in a professional and judicial way
Funniest thing I’ve read all day. Thanks for the laugh 🤡
@@rhcp4life697 we might’ve found the gf’s burner
Great points, Kyle!
They are not victims.. kyle maybe. Dont forget his brother went to harvard and his family isnt a broke one.
But after hearing all of it... i smell a resentful family. That kyle didnt want a part of. He made a choice and stuck to it.
Btw. This idea that 16 is grooming. No. Grooming is when they are 8 10 12... in every other civilized top tier nation most all are adults and out of highschool at 16. We as americans are just ignorant to certain realities.
He met her was in mass. And legal age of consent is 16. How do we know kyle didnt pursue her and she capichulated. She went alabama.. not utah. if she was hard mormon why not convince him to go to a utah school or alabama and not duke... if she was grooming and had that pull... why duke. Kyles choice. This isnt as evil as kyle is making it out to be. Its as evil and his family is making it out to be. none of this adds up and im sure kyle knows the truth and its why he doesnt say anything and roast his family.
So all you democrats teaching in junior high and high school about joining the lgbtq program , YOU ARE GROOMERS!!!